The fun thing about 2fort is that, for classes that cannot blast jump, the only way for bots to make it to the intel mean crossing the courtyard. Meaning, they can all be choked in one…tiny…area
its true. and thanks to that, if you defend just that. bots wont take the intel, sure, you will be stuck by spawn, but... youll make the game longer? hurray
@@chosenone8898 well what it means is that while they’re all trying (and failing) to get past the 2-3 max classes, the rest of your team can push through sewers
@@chosenone8898 I figured out an addendum to the Demoman strategy to improve it tenfold: If you can get a medic, use a Kritzkreig charge to place 12 crit stickies with the Scottish Resistance. Most people forget about the rule that helps next: If you fire one more sticky, the first one detonates. So, you can get 12 instant-crit-kills by just firing stickies at the right time, using your crit stickies one at a time.
As long as we’re discussing defensive classes, we might as well talk about Heavy. Unfortunately, because of how big and slow-moving a target he is, the only good place to put him is in Demoman’s place.
I can imagine a community server that is 2Fort MVM full of aimbot sniper robots to emulate this scenario. Perhaps it will be called "MVM 2Fort Tower Defense"
A Scout can be good for call outs, with the Bonk Atomic Punch, they can call out the position of bots, and when they are incoming. In short: Scouts are good at scouting.
Disguising as heavy as a spy is also good because your hitbox as a spy is below where a heavy's hitbox is, meaning they will always miss. The only way you can be killed is if a human enemy catches on and kills you
@@Syamfprchthe bots don't fall for that sadly, I once tried spy, both to sneak past with cloaks and disguised, and to displace hitbox. I can't tell you how, but they always know if you're spy
One time me and friendly engineers managed to capture the bridge until these 2 medics decided its a good idea to pocket and uber the bots, they pushed us all the way to the intel room until the bots started kicking them for some reason
One thing I like to do: Defend the same area Demoman defends, but play as Heavy. You can actually position yourself around the edge of the hole in the grate to aim and shoot at their legs and torsos. The important thing is to keep their heads out of your visibility. It’s risky at times, especially when the bots come in clusters, but it’s very effective when the Engineer places a dispenser on your exact position, or if a Medic has The Vaccinator, of course. I was able to get over 50 kills like this before the bots simultaneously disconnected as they do I recommend the Natasha, because it slows them down and you can keep them behind cover longer, and also keep them in a group before they run beneath you to disturb your team. It also disturbs the bot’s shot as a miss or body shot (most of the time) Also, I recommend equipping the Sandvich (in case you don’t have a Medic) and the Fists of Steel (to hopefully have a better chance of “safely” crossing over from the right spawn room to the main spawn room) Very gud vid btw
huh, the more you know, personally I've never tried that mainly because of the mostly direct-sight attack method of heavy in general, but that is also very useful info. also thanks
8:05 i was actually in a match with an engine who found a perfect spot there where they could use the wrangler to gun down bots as they crossed the bridge while another engine healed the sentry, i've never seen anyone be able to replicate it but it was cool to see
1 tip as demoman: if a bunch of bots are standing right up against the spawndoor and scoped in dont worry you can still get out, place several stickybombs along the bottom of the door, open it yourself or wait untill someone else opens it and then detonate the bombs, killing all the enemy bots
yes it sure can, its just that i really only need 4 stickies to kill a bot from there, 2 lines of 4 stickies for each bot that comes, it would be wasting ammo if i did more then 8, youd be surprised how fast you run out of ammo when youre doing that, if there isnt an engineer of course.
Appreciate your advice for fighting bots in tf2 like us as a bot hunter I grateful for this advice. I am a sniper main but is more difficult to hit them so this will hopefully work out thank you mate Ps keep fighting bots we can win this war till hopefully someone community tf2 maker can try to make a easygoing to report bots faster hopefully but keep up the good work From drago Crosshair the Black Death member of bot hunter republic
Why playing casual 2fort with poopoo 20 seconds respawn timer, that just waste your time for nothin, when there are exist 24/7 community chad 2fort with instant respawn, with working moderation?
Remember People can spectate bots or specific areas They can tell if bots or people are coming They are also able to tell a fellow demo to detonate their bombs
On 2fort you can outsnipe the bots too, crouch and look through the stairs out the right side of the spawn door and you can shoot bots all day when they walk in the base. People are impressed when they see me headshotting bots 😂. But it’s a good strategy for defending ngl
I'd love a game where defending maps from teams of crude bots is a actual built-in gamemode. true fake player AI's with aimbot representing human cheaters are something like mini-bosses.
A tip for medic: if you have a friendly demoman, and you have a vacc medic glueing itself to the giant ass of the engineer, you can go kritz for your demo, making it so that they only need 1 sticky to kill a bot, so that they can place more stickies to defend more areas
All excellent points that should be used by every player who has to defend from bots on 2fort. Unfortunately, most players leave upon the situation getting that bad. A few more things I would add: they will shoot stickies, so that's another reason why you need to use the grate if you want a chance at a good sticky trap. Also, if you don't have a second Engineer to build a teleporter to and from spawn, and the base is already overrun, you can use the Eureka Effect to teleport down to your Sentry in the intel without having to cross through their sightlines. Therefore, you can provide a constant supply of metal from spawn to get upgraded as quickly as possible. Next, you are also able to shoot their through the gaps in the stairs. If you position yourself correctly, you can gun them down while they are unable to pull off headshots and must rely on bodyshots to kill. Finally, I used to use a strategy to go on the offensive against the bots back in the day when their navigation was worse. It still works, but they can get around it by jumping into the sewer - therefore it should only be done if you have another Engineer covering the courtyard. It involves building a dispenser behind the sheet metal wall on the battlements and placing a lvl 3 angled just enough that it can shoot out. Then, you can use the Wrangler to snipe bots trying to cross the bridge while concealing your hitbox behind that of the Sentry. There were a handful of times when I was able to wipe the entire enemy bot team from the battlements while a friendly Engineer repaired and reloaded my Sentry while concealed - much like an ammo carrier feeding a belt into a machine gun. The strategy is fun if it works and is one of the only reliable ways to kill the bots (because they'll perfectly avoid Sentry sightlines in the hallways), but its modern efficacy is questionable.
on newer bots just but a sentry on the main downstairs room because that will make their ai not go there but they are snipers that lack to mobility to jump on the bridge so they can only go in the downstairs and that will keep them from snatching your intel
Whaith.... What if I create a game that is jistt TF2 style cheatbots invading and the player has to defend something from them? 17:09 TF2 video with Terraria music on a Bloons 5 gameplay section. I have bo idea what happened.
Please take notice about teleports blocking stairs: while useful against bots, it is TERRIBLE in a normal gameplay. While those teleports block your enemies, they have a huge disadvantage of blocking teammates as well. I've lost count of how many times I was wounded, chased and retreating to my spawn, only to get blocked by damn teleport, just for a second - a second too late for me to survive. Enemy scout or pyro (if competent) don't care about attacking the sentry but will happily take any frags that fail to run to safety. Meanwhile when enemy properly attacks your sentry, teleport barely gives any safety, and spies can jump over it while cloaked. So please avoid building those teleports unless you do it specifically against bot invaders. Better just utilize spot at 11:20 instead.
I mainly play soldier and engie so this is very useful for me when am playing engie but im gonna try to find a way to defend against bots as soldier, I could use the rockets splash damage to my advantage but its still more dangerous then demo I think
11:00 if you use the eureka effect you can place a teleporter right where you’re sitting so that you can teleport out of there to spawn or teleport back down to the sentry without risking getting shot. Also, as you said, if you build an entrance teleporter too then soldiers and other classes can teleport down there and peek around it
another good tip ask a teammate soldier to spam some rocket splash damage on the corners to use the batallions backup trusts me that thing its amazing agaisnt bots
I once was heavy and had a vac medic follow me. I notified the enemy team and we went bot hunting. We bought everyone time for them to kick those fools. Ended up turning the entire server friendly
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The fun thing about 2fort is that, for classes that cannot blast jump, the only way for bots to make it to the intel mean crossing the courtyard. Meaning, they can all be choked in one…tiny…area
its true. and thanks to that, if you defend just that. bots wont take the intel, sure, you will be stuck by spawn, but... youll make the game longer? hurray
@@chosenone8898 well what it means is that while they’re all trying (and failing) to get past the 2-3 max classes, the rest of your team can push through sewers
@@chosenone8898 I figured out an addendum to the Demoman strategy to improve it tenfold:
If you can get a medic, use a Kritzkreig charge to place 12 crit stickies with the Scottish Resistance.
Most people forget about the rule that helps next: If you fire one more sticky, the first one detonates. So, you can get 12 instant-crit-kills by just firing stickies at the right time, using your crit stickies one at a time.
That’s the only thing bots fear also i killed one bot by doing that and i will take full pride for that
@@chosenone8898 you can flank bots as solider or heavy but always have a Uber or vac medic which makes your character almost unstoppable against bots
wonderful guide for the new MVM update! I was having trouble on this wave.
As long as we’re discussing defensive classes, we might as well talk about Heavy. Unfortunately, because of how big and slow-moving a target he is, the only good place to put him is in Demoman’s place.
you have done us a great service
preciate it, i try lol
I cannot believe that people are having to come up with strats to combat these things
strange scotish resistance kill farm
you're doin' good, lad!
2023 and we're still getting MvM guides 🙏
They turn tf2 into a tower defense game
I can imagine a community server that is 2Fort MVM full of aimbot sniper robots to emulate this scenario. Perhaps it will be called "MVM 2Fort Tower Defense"
@@Theriodontia4945
yeah!
2Fort TD!!
Tower fortress 2
"Wait, so MVM doesn't count as a Tower Defense game?"
- Someone on the internet
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A Scout can be good for call outs, with the Bonk Atomic Punch, they can call out the position of bots, and when they are incoming.
In short: Scouts are good at scouting.
true
They, of course, can also run past them as well, and - once the coast is clear - try to bring the enemy Intel to their base as far as they can.
Disguising as heavy as a spy is also good because your hitbox as a spy is below where a heavy's hitbox is, meaning they will always miss. The only way you can be killed is if a human enemy catches on and kills you
@@Syamfprchthe bots don't fall for that sadly, I once tried spy, both to sneak past with cloaks and disguised, and to displace hitbox. I can't tell you how, but they always know if you're spy
One time me and friendly engineers managed to capture the bridge until these 2 medics decided its a good idea to pocket and uber the bots, they pushed us all the way to the intel room until the bots started kicking them for some reason
The Medics got karma'd XD
Rare bot W
report those who aid bots as cheaters tbh
Mann vs machine looking real different nowadays
Yeah, apparently some -nice- people gave a update to the game mode
I remember using that teleport strat in the courtyard against people in the Xbox version, good times.
Good times bro
One thing I like to do: Defend the same area Demoman defends, but play as Heavy.
You can actually position yourself around the edge of the hole in the grate to aim and shoot at their legs and torsos. The important thing is to keep their heads out of your visibility. It’s risky at times, especially when the bots come in clusters, but it’s very effective when the Engineer places a dispenser on your exact position, or if a Medic has The Vaccinator, of course. I was able to get over 50 kills like this before the bots simultaneously disconnected as they do
I recommend the Natasha, because it slows them down and you can keep them behind cover longer, and also keep them in a group before they run beneath you to disturb your team. It also disturbs the bot’s shot as a miss or body shot (most of the time)
Also, I recommend equipping the Sandvich (in case you don’t have a Medic) and the Fists of Steel (to hopefully have a better chance of “safely” crossing over from the right spawn room to the main spawn room)
Very gud vid btw
huh, the more you know, personally I've never tried that mainly because of the mostly direct-sight attack method of heavy in general, but that is also very useful info. also thanks
Natasha also helps reduce more damage.
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 Brass beast does that as well.
@@chosenone8898
Yeah
If you have multiple heavys though
You'll need a amputator
Unless there isn't another medic
8:05 i was actually in a match with an engine who found a perfect spot there where they could use the wrangler to gun down bots as they crossed the bridge while another engine healed the sentry, i've never seen anyone be able to replicate it but it was cool to see
Imagine seeing a guy dominating a bot
Absolutely gorgeous
1 tip as demoman:
if a bunch of bots are standing right up against the spawndoor and scoped in dont worry you can still get out, place several stickybombs along the bottom of the door, open it yourself or wait untill someone else opens it and then detonate the bombs, killing all the enemy bots
one of the greatest videos to ever roam tf2 and youtube
For more skilled players, or against lesser amounts of bots, dh plus battalions works
For a channel with just 76 subs, this is a really solid tutorial
This is truly a babies first blow up video
Why are you only putting down 8 stickies? Cant the Scottish resistance plant 14 stickies
yes it sure can, its just that i really only need 4 stickies to kill a bot from there, 2 lines of 4 stickies for each bot that comes, it would be wasting ammo if i did more then 8, youd be surprised how fast you run out of ammo when youre doing that, if there isnt an engineer of course.
I love how some people seen the bots and thought "hmm now we play Tower Defense TF2"
bro the bloons td 5 ice circle map theme hits so hard
fr btd 5 made some bangers.
The Magicite dungeon music at the start took me back to an age long past... i wish that specific dev wouldn't keep abandoning their games...
TwoFort: Become Anti-cheat
Aww yeah. Now this is true demoman gaming.
Appreciate your advice for fighting bots in tf2 like us as a bot hunter I grateful for this advice. I am a sniper main but is more difficult to hit them so this will hopefully work out thank you mate
Ps keep fighting bots we can win this war till hopefully someone community tf2 maker can try to make a easygoing to report bots faster hopefully but keep up the good work
From drago Crosshair the Black Death member of bot hunter republic
Why playing casual 2fort with poopoo 20 seconds respawn timer, that just waste your time for nothin, when there are exist 24/7 community chad 2fort with instant respawn, with working moderation?
2:30 - Socialist/Black Supremacist
6:36 - White Supremacist/Tech Priest from Warhammer 40,000
i love when announcer bfdi lectures me on bot defense
Remember
People can spectate bots or specific areas
They can tell if bots or people are coming
They are also able to tell a fellow demo to detonate their bombs
I will not allow or tolerate the allowance of bots or players like Mechawreck poisoning the servers of TF2 with their presence.
Damnit damnit damnit i just found this and i have literally had a video exactly like this in the works. I guess that project’s scrapped.
aw man :(
Maybe you could take them head-on as Demoman if you applied his Demoknight loadout.
Missed opportunity to make it into Analog horror PSA
Its still surprisingly good tho, thank you for tutorial!
Demoman and Engineer are the only thing standing between the Aimbots and the intelligence.
10:33
It’s not called TEAM Fortress 2 for nothing.
2:30 - Yoshi
6:36 - Fox “Kitsuneer” McCloud
If the bots are ever fixed someone will make this into a custom gamemode.
1:28
Isle Delfino airport terminal from Super Mario Sunshine.
Play as Spy and disguise as Heavy, and the bots will aim above your head.
You might as well include Heavy, and a Medic for just in case.
Yoshi and Fox “Kitsuneer” McCloud
ironic how a bot is telling us how to kill bots
1:28 is beyond Mario’s ability to clean up.
The two most contradictory classes in the game.
Mvm update looking crazy
0:44 that music sounds really familiar
is it from Magicite? or do i have it mixed up (haven't touched that game in eons)
yes it is actually! I keep forgetting to put the songs in the description.
Can't believe they put 2Fort in mvm!
So the meta is Engineers and Scottish Resistance Demos
Glad to see nothing’s changed
2:08
But where’s the fun in that?
imagine doeshotter getting detonated by a demoman above him in 2fort
2:30 - Bomb
6:36 - Bubbles
On 2fort you can outsnipe the bots too, crouch and look through the stairs out the right side of the spawn door and you can shoot bots all day when they walk in the base. People are impressed when they see me headshotting bots 😂. But it’s a good strategy for defending ngl
I'd love a game where defending maps from teams of crude bots is a actual built-in gamemode. true fake player AI's with aimbot representing human cheaters are something like mini-bosses.
5:25 if only i could
Fortress Alone.
A tip for medic: if you have a friendly demoman, and you have a vacc medic glueing itself to the giant ass of the engineer, you can go kritz for your demo, making it so that they only need 1 sticky to kill a bot, so that they can place more stickies to defend more areas
All excellent points that should be used by every player who has to defend from bots on 2fort. Unfortunately, most players leave upon the situation getting that bad. A few more things I would add: they will shoot stickies, so that's another reason why you need to use the grate if you want a chance at a good sticky trap. Also, if you don't have a second Engineer to build a teleporter to and from spawn, and the base is already overrun, you can use the Eureka Effect to teleport down to your Sentry in the intel without having to cross through their sightlines. Therefore, you can provide a constant supply of metal from spawn to get upgraded as quickly as possible. Next, you are also able to shoot their through the gaps in the stairs. If you position yourself correctly, you can gun them down while they are unable to pull off headshots and must rely on bodyshots to kill.
Finally, I used to use a strategy to go on the offensive against the bots back in the day when their navigation was worse. It still works, but they can get around it by jumping into the sewer - therefore it should only be done if you have another Engineer covering the courtyard. It involves building a dispenser behind the sheet metal wall on the battlements and placing a lvl 3 angled just enough that it can shoot out. Then, you can use the Wrangler to snipe bots trying to cross the bridge while concealing your hitbox behind that of the Sentry. There were a handful of times when I was able to wipe the entire enemy bot team from the battlements while a friendly Engineer repaired and reloaded my Sentry while concealed - much like an ammo carrier feeding a belt into a machine gun. The strategy is fun if it works and is one of the only reliable ways to kill the bots (because they'll perfectly avoid Sentry sightlines in the hallways), but its modern efficacy is questionable.
69th like nice : )
bot makers : "this will surely ruin tf2 for good"
99% of tf2 playerbase : I LOVE TOWER DEFENSE
Use battalion backup, they prevent crits damage, combine with vacc, and boom "invincible soldier"
OMG is that Magicite music
i feel like i've been gut punched holy crap thank you
that brought me back a couple years :D
Thanks! And now i have liberated 2Fort and Doublecross against the bots. :)
As a robot myself, this is a [MALFUNCTION ON MY PROGRAMING], or i [DRUNK] to much [LIQUID]
MvM on 2Fort
on newer bots just but a sentry on the main downstairs room because that will make their ai not go there but they are snipers that lack to mobility to jump on the bridge so they can only go in the downstairs and that will keep them from snatching your intel
Whaith....
What if I create a game that is jistt TF2 style cheatbots invading and the player has to defend something from them?
17:09 TF2 video with Terraria music on a Bloons 5 gameplay section. I have bo idea what happened.
step 1: uninstall 2
step 2: install tf2 classic
step 3: no bots no problem
Please take notice about teleports blocking stairs: while useful against bots, it is TERRIBLE in a normal gameplay. While those teleports block your enemies, they have a huge disadvantage of blocking teammates as well. I've lost count of how many times I was wounded, chased and retreating to my spawn, only to get blocked by damn teleport, just for a second - a second too late for me to survive. Enemy scout or pyro (if competent) don't care about attacking the sentry but will happily take any frags that fail to run to safety. Meanwhile when enemy properly attacks your sentry, teleport barely gives any safety, and spies can jump over it while cloaked. So please avoid building those teleports unless you do it specifically against bot invaders. Better just utilize spot at 11:20 instead.
I mainly play soldier and engie so this is very useful for me when am playing engie but im gonna try to find a way to defend against bots as soldier, I could use the rockets splash damage to my advantage but its still more dangerous then demo I think
11:00 if you use the eureka effect you can place a teleporter right where you’re sitting so that you can teleport out of there to spawn or teleport back down to the sentry without risking getting shot.
Also, as you said, if you build an entrance teleporter too then soldiers and other classes can teleport down there and peek around it
another good tip
ask a teammate soldier to spam some rocket splash damage on the corners to use the batallions backup trusts me that thing its amazing agaisnt bots
I once was heavy and had a vac medic follow me. I notified the enemy team and we went bot hunting. We bought everyone time for them to kick those fools. Ended up turning the entire server friendly
this should be a game mode like you have to defend yourself agaisnt the bots and you have a grace period until they come, like zombies
Bro the new MVM update looks fuckin crazy!!
honestly should be an alternate gamemode of mvm without the upgrades
Lol.
Useless bots.
Now that the bots are gone we can use this a lesson for if they come back
I've been using this tactic and have a Scottish resistance called the "cheater chomper"
TF2 players turns the most annoying thing into a new gamemode
Those legs in the thumbnail, I can recognize them anywhere…
IS THAT THE TWISTED TOPPER IN THE THUMBNAIL?!?!?!?!?!?
good thing is i main 2fort but i barely ever see Bots
What are the chances of a australiums from this mission?
Alternate title:
How to play engineer on 2Fort
he is using the original tf2 settings and winning... this is a threat to all that is tf2
Tf2: Meet the Sniper bots
Mann VS Machine 2023 update
1:15 chad based bloons TD 5 soundtrack
No way a new tf2 update towerdefends
is that the pvz everyone keeps talking about
The new btd6 update looks sick
bro got a feature w soundsmithio
Just do the thug shaker and they won't kill you
thanks mate, appreciate it, great video
thanks, mate :D now I know what to do in case of a bot invasion >:D
This seems and sounds something more of an eas alert tbh
Gives me an idea for a game custom mode