ESPN’s Dan Orlovsky Talks Falcons/Penix, NFL Draft QB’s & More with Rich Eisen | Full Interview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2024
- ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky tells Rich Eisen why he was initially “completely perplexed” by the Falcons drafting Michael Penix Jr but later changed his mind, what fans should expect from Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye in their rookie seasons, and why JJ McCarthy is poised to have a big season with the Minnesota Vikings.
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Listening intently for the next live on air Orlovsky fart😂
I appreciate Dan Orlovsky being open-minded, listening to the Falcons' reasoning and applying critical thinking to their decision. I get what Rich Eisen is saying as well. This is the kind of discussion I appreciate instead of what Asshat Michael Lombardi has brought to the table. I think part of the answer to what the Falcons are thinking lays in how they structured Kirk Cousins' contract. While ostensibly it is a 4-year contract, the provisions suggest that the Falcons are effectively viewing it as a 2-year contract as they will have met their guarantee of $100 million by then, and Cousins will be age 38 beginning his 3rd year with an increasing cap hit. So the Falcons will be in a position to cut Cousins by then or restructure his contract. Meanwhile, they have Michael Penix ready to fill in early in case of a Cousins injury or take over if Cousins falters or is no longer worth it. The Falcons' grade on Penix was high, and who is to say they are wrong. Only time will tell, and I am hoping they got it right if only to shut down the likes of arrogant Michael Lombardi.
You are clearly a Falcons fan trying to justify the pick. We've all been there. You think in their free agent pitch to Cousins they said hey we are going to draft your replacement so we can cut you in two years. If they liked Penix that much why not just draft him 8 and save yourself all that $ you paid Cousins.
If that's the case???????? Why would they not trade the 8th overall pick for lets say a 2025 and a 2026 first round pick???
then you're not looking at a 26 year old with only three years left on his rookie contract incl. his 5th year option
Skip the first 2 minutes. It’s Dan and Rich glazing each other.
Dan Orlovsky thinks Joe Montana is not a Top 5 QB of all-time. View all his other opinions through that lens.
He said, "Well I wasn't alive when he played."
I'd rather use the 'out-the-back-of-the-endzone' lens. It's much less debatable. CHIEFS CHIEFS CHIEFS
Lmaoooo sell it to em Dan!
We had a perfect opportunity to have dan and joel on at the same time to discuss the time joel humbled dan on a baseball field. I am heartbroken 😂
The sole of the shoe toward Rich is *gasp* OBSCENE! (Among billions here in Asia where i work)
Poor planning and chasing the hot girl is what happened. Understanding why someone did something stupid doesn't make it smart.
Id be pissed if i was Penix could be a starter at the Raiders, Seahawks or Saints. Now he is stuck on the bench for the next couple of years. Which will probably cost him money on second contract.
Good points 👍
Nah, Kirk will get hurt and will have better weapons in Atl than LV or NO... Seattle would have been nice as well though. More than sitting, him going into such dysfunction should be more worrying. What will they do to him year 4 or 5 if he's elite and they don't want to pay him? Will they give up chances at building a squad just to have his replacement too?
@SpoonHurler The falcons won't be able to keep all there weapons as they already gave kirk 4 years 180 mil. So Penix will miss out on using his cheap rookie contract to his benefit.
@@johnk9432 that's a very fair point I haven't considered... the Falcons probably haven't either 🤣
Couldn't he hold out and not sign?
The Favre to Rodgers comparison to this situation is comparing apples to oranges. Brett Favre had played with Green Bay for over a decade. He knew the offense, the organization, the locker room, everything. Kirk hasn't played a snap for Atlanta so how is he expected to show Penix the ropes on an offense he hasn't even played in yet? If they liked Penix, then draft Penix and save the money by not signing Kirk.
Niners did EXACTLY THAT SAME THING. And they got the best 20+ years of QB play literally EVER. I thought you were good at this Rich.
Two wrongs don't make a right dano
I don’t hate the pick. I just think they are any where good enough now to even win the south.
Dan said nothing about Bo Nix. Thanks, Rich.
Look any team that waits until Super star QB retires is in trouble for years example NE, New Orleans, Pittsburgh, Denver and previously Atlanta vs Ones who put a guy on the bench behind a star KC, GB, Atlanta has chosen this time to join the latter teams not repeat what they did with the former teams in the past
I’m with Dan. No rookie QB is “pro ready”
Except the ones that are.
Before the Draft everybody including Rich is saying that no one gives these rookie QBs time to develop and now when a team is doing exactly that they say they‘re stupid.
It‘s the same with the Packers. They took Jordan Love, everybody hated it and now they love it.
I understand that the media needs something to talk about but let‘s wait and see how it‘ll play out.
Penix is an older player and more pro ready than most QBs. If the falcons signed a pass rusher and a safety instead of payng a 36 year old qb 180 million dollars, they would be in a better place
Yeah they actually have made it about the…you know…100 million dollar contract to a 35 year old QB, claiming to be in win now. The Packers basically pulled the reverse uno card on Rodgers by doing to him, what they did to Brett: preparing for the next guy. Those situations are not the same. Why not use the pick to actually make the team better? Give Kirk more weapons? Help the defense? No?
@@leonh.kalayjian6556 Don‘t get me wrong, I also would liked it if they signed a pass rusher in FA but we also needed an experienced QB. I‘m not sold on Kirk, but I think he makes us better now and with the cap getting higher every year I think it‘s not gonna be a problem.
I actually don‘t understand the age arguement. When he starts in two years he will have the potential to at least play 10 years. You never know what can happen in this league. There are QBs playing in their 40s now and there are some who get worse when they are 35. You just cannot know.
Lastly I think that Penix will benefit from sitting 2 years even if he is the most pro ready QB in this Draft class. The NFL is still different from college and most QBs need time to adjust.
The thing is, it will take at least 2 years until we know, haha
@@avantesmith6442 I know what you mean and I would have loved if they signed a pass rusher in FA. As for the ones in the draft you don’t know if they are really that good. Dallas Turner fell and it shows that teams didn‘t think that he is that difference maker the media was trying to make him. He‘s probably not a Micah Parsons.
And if they took Rome Odunze fans would also have been upset. They can‘t make everybody happy. We have to trust what they are doing. It‘s their job. They do it full time and spend way more time evaluating these prospects than anyone of us. And it‘s still a lottery.
I‘m still excited for the new season and can‘t wait for it to begin!
Dan “flavor of the month” Orlovsky has Jayden Daniels as the #1 QB and we’re supposed to take his stamp of approval on the Atlanta pick seriously. Get out of here.
Everything Orlovsky said was excuses for HORRIBLE PLANNING by the Falcons
Yeah they’re dumb. They didn’t give a good offensive coach a QB for 3 years then hire a defensive head coach and give him 2 QBs lolol that front office should be on the chopping block. starting right now.
0:33 😂
Sam Darnold will be there starter this year lol
Kirk Cousins is all aboard the Chris Brockman draft before free agency train.
I don’t think the falcons are win now mode. They still have a lot to do. I don’t see then getting past the 1st playoff game.
I got no issue with the Penix pick. I am however wildly amazed Anyone thinks Kirk Cousins is worth 100m.
Excellent QBs are so rare and far apart, I can truly understand great prospects are consider invaluable.
Getting a franchise QB of high quality can be worth billions
Everyone: “The NFL doesn’t give rookie QB’s a fair shot and they do nothing to develop them anymore! These guys get dropped in before they’re ready and put out to pasture in 2-3 years.”
Also Everyone: “Can you believe a team drafted what they evaluated as the second best quarterback in the draft and their plan is to sit them for 2-3 years and let them learn and develop behind one of the better veterans in the game! So stupid!”
*eyes roll*
In the end, signing cousins was a dumb decision when you compare it to the ability to sign a top ten qb. So why were they focused on free agency, oblivious to choosing a top ten qb? Tape on penix was available. Imagine if instead of choosing, they traded for Brian burns and paid him? And paid for a safety like Xavier McKinney? And played penix day one?
Why can’t you pay Kirk a lot and have him learn behind him for a couple years especially since he’s old coming off a big injury; mahomes did for a year; Rodgers behind Favre, love behind Rodgers.
Orlovsky is wrong. The Falcons are ruining Penix's career. A tragedy.
Oh calm down dude
Falcons are fine. Penix Jr is money in the bank, and it's not unwise to sit a rookie qb behind a vet for a time; anyone who's hoping for a magical Houston Strouds event again, is less likely than a Jordan Love-type upbringing. Rich is just STILL salty Bill isnt hired (cuz Blank's yesmen talked him out it, fearing for their jobs).
Kirk will get your organization at the top, not good enough to win trophies but will get you there and then you are in limbo = late first rounds and no trophies.
This will be the FALCONS only chance to take a shot at QB
(coming from a Vikings fan) we got to #11 only because cousins got hurt and we limped through the rest of 23
Yeah cuz Penix is gonna get you way closer to championships than Rome Udenze or the 30 other good players you passed up for a guy who’ll probably get a 2nd contract without ever playing
I cant get enough of DO
These "insiders" are a joke. Afraid to give their real opinion without pissing off the organizations and network
Let’s stop caping up for the dumb decisions teams make. They gave Kirk 100M and then drafted this kid. By the time it’s even feasible to cut him and take the cap hit it’ll be 2027 & he’ll be 28. If you know you’re in love with Penix then why sign Kirk? They’re clearly a disjointed organization & not all on the same plan
Capping
Totally disagree with Dan. This is unprecedented because it’s so dumb
Caleb did not do very well against NFL type of defenses last year Penix in the Natty Game was up against essentially the Baltimore NFL defense and he almost left the gabe with a ruptured spleen I think JJ might have been the best qb in the draft when he had to he threw the ball short or long or ran it plus he called all the protections out he was not looking over at the sideline at those goofy cards telling him what to run he got a pass play he got a run play it was his call which they ran plus sonetimes he checked out of the one he originally called.Caleb Jaden Penix as well did not.
How is Daniels, who had an all-star NFL ready oline, wrs, te... yet still lost 3 games, somehow become the top QB in the draft.
Not to mention shoulders barely wider than his head. Wash got RG3 2.0
If Rich drafted a team it’d go 0-17
Remind me in 5 years that this was a horrible pick.
Weak interview on the the penix pick . He never said why why he liked the picked and you never pushed for nuts and bolts answers rich.??????? Thought That this would be good , but disappointing………🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Jayden Daniels looked awesome throwing to malik nabers and brian thomas jr. Caleb struggled in one game throwing to a 7th round receiver and a bunch of scrubs. obviously daniels is better. terrible analysis.
How is Rich this old and this shortsighted?
You don't even know if Cousins can stay healthy or if he will fall of the cliff in year 2 after taking some hits in another season. The contract for Cousins was bad but the pick makes sense. You cannot asume everything will go right with Cousins
Yeah sure. So cousins got hurt once in 13 years and you go out and pick the college guy with shredded knees and a bad shoulder to be his insurance? You’re a homer.
Just paid 100M+ to a mid QB, defense is sus as hell, and then you blow the #8 on an old, damaged secound round QB prospect. No lipstick on this pig is gonna make any difference.
You guys are lyin u dont want to say the truth😅 but thanks falcons we got bowers thanks to u go raiders😂
Look Rich. You dont understand how frustrated the owner is and demands to WIN NOW. Penix CANT win now because he needs to learn how to read and process. He will SIT. Cousins is seasoned and KNOWS how to read defense and process the field. Blank says to Morris - get me a damn QB that can win this damn division NOW. Its HIS damn money Rich and he is tired of losing year after year. He cant take it anymore and that translates in telling Morris go get Cousins and dont care what it cost. Then figure out how to get this lousy franchise on longer term footing. Its a Goddamn business. Got it!!!. Morris & Fontenau are thinking a few years down the road. I will come on the show and explain it to you if your still having difficulty processing. I just need you cover my airfare and hotel accommodations.
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the falcons decided to lose for the next 6 years. cash strapped and without players. lots of QBs though. Dan is farting against the wind
Dan is a liar. If that is the case don't dign Kirk.
Orlovsky is a bum
Orlovsky did you juet fart on stage again lol damn what ta hell are you eating