WOW! THIS WAS AN UNEXPECTED HEAVY HITTER! First Time Hearing CSNY - Ohio Reaction!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ธ.ค. 2023
- Get ready to be moved as we react to Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young's "Ohio" for the first time! This song is not just a musical piece but a powerful historical statement, and we're intrigued to experience its impact.
🎸 About Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young (CSNY): CSNY, a supergroup in the world of folk-rock, is known for their harmonious vocals and meaningful lyrics. "Ohio," written in response to the Kent State shootings, is a poignant and powerful protest song that has resonated with audiences for decades.
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Young people...these were your parents/grandparents. Fight for ur rights. Stand for the things you know are right
Two of the students killed were not even part of the protest--they were just passing by on campus going to classes!
My kid is a junior at Kent State. The building where they have most of their classes, still has bullet holes from the May 4th shooting. Kent State has a wonderful museum that honors the dead and provides context to what happened. It is worth checking out if you find yourself in Kent, Ohio.
I was there in 72. My sister saw it all.
I visited just as Ohio had started opening up after Covid. It was an appropriately cold and foggy day. We saw the moving memorials and the sculpture that still holds the bullet holes and the locations of the places where the four students died. We couldn't go into the museum because of Covid, but it was just moving. It should never be forgotten.
I started there in 1972 and they had a memorial service the years I was there. It is a beautiful campus especially in the Fall
I lived not far from Kent State University. I had just got home from Vietnam when the protests where happening. I was emotionally conflicted about the students deaths. I was in choppers flying dust off for the Marines. I saw hundreds of severely wounded Marines .I'm 75 years old now and the entire war was a waste
So many good young men taken so young
Thank you for your service, sir.
@@teej0813 In an illegal war?
Welcome Home Brother.
I'm 70 and was fortunate not having to go. I always respected those who went and I salute you.
@@garybradford8332 US involvement in Vietnam was ILLEGAL. I don't respect anyone who supported -- or advanced -- that ILLEGALITY.
But it's really cheap lip-service to thank military personnel for their service: what do it DO beyond making you feel good about YOURSELF?
Anyone of my age can tell you the story. Just say "Kent State". We all saw it happen live on TV.
I graduated high school in 70. The events at Kent State changed me from a conservative small town kid to an angry young man.
David Crosby was in teh Byrds, Grahman Nash was in the Hollies, Steven Still and Neil young was in Buffalo Springfield
The Buffalo Springfield is sadly mostly known for one (very good) song, but they had so much rich material and the singing was integral to the storytelling. I still choke up on "Broken Arrow" and "Expecting to Fly" decades after first hearing those songs in college during nights of cheap weed, cheaper beer, and backgammon.
Yes and no. Buffalo Springfield wasn't mainstream, but they were popular in the "underground music" days say 68 or so. Like Jethro Tull.
Young is in a band called Crazy Horse.
@@visaman Crazy Horse is His solo band
@@visaman Crazy Horse is His solo band
I will never forget the coverage of the Kent State protest. I was sixteen and it made a huge impact on me. I am 70 and this song and the pics brought tears to my eyes again.
As a Brit, this song gives my goosebumps, I've actually seen the real time footage of the National Guard opening fire on the students' terrible scenes, RIP to the students❤
*_OHIO_** SONG IS "PART RIGHT-PART WRONG"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* IT IS WRITTEN 100% FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE ANTI-GOVT. "ANTIFA" OF THE '60s & PART OF THIS SONG IS 100% LIE. The only part about song that is true is Ohio Natl Guard ordered to fire on protesters.. *But it doesn't mention protesters had already done $$$ Millions in damage to campus & were shot IN FRONT OF KSU LIBRARY W/ MOLOTOV COCKTAILS.* Protest organizers intending to pass out weapons to protesters to kill 'first responders' (like Al Qaeda & ISIS do) but hid & left campus after Guard opened fire....... *Funny that part of story never gets out from media since it so goes against the 'Hippie Love' narrative, just like today, on how all the building burning & shooting whites by BLM, and Theft of $$$MIllions by BLM Board & Patrisse Cullors is just accepted left & media*
Thanks for that solidarity. I love some British protest songs but they tend to be very abrasive. Napalm Death, Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls, Slits. But then again I like the Clash, Simple Minds, Peter Gabriel, Billy Bragg, Sinead O'Connor too.
Just so senseless it all was...and, yes: RIP to the students and let's pray that all there eventually could learn to live, again, without just constant fear in their lives...
*_OHIO_** IS WRITTEN 100% FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF "ANTIFA" OF THE '60s. "HIPPIE VERSION" OF THE KENT STATE LIE, AS TOLD, IS JUST AS BAD AS THE CLAIM KENNEDY ASSASSINATION WAS DONE BY OSWALD. The "Hippie Version" fails to mention several of those shot had MOLOTOV COCKTAILS. The famous pic of crying girl next to body, SHE IS ONLY 14. WHAT IS A 14-YR OLD DOING AT A COLLEGE RIOT WHERE PROTESTERS WERE BURNING KENT STATE BUILDINGS WITH FIRE BOMBS?*
@mattjohn4731 Have a listen to Dire Straits-Brothers in Arms from 1985,it won quite a few awards for the music video as well
Neil Young is a national treasure here in Canada, he wrote the song in about fifteen minutes after seeing pictures of the Kent State massacre in Life magazine, it was later named as the greatest protest song ever in an era where everyone was writing them.
We don't need Neil around anyhow: Ronnie Van Zandt 😊...
*_OHIO_** IS WRITTEN 100% FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF "ANTIFA" OF THE '60s. "HIPPIE VERSION" OF THE KENT STATE LIE, AS TOLD, IS JUST AS BAD AS THE CLAIM KENNEDY ASSASSINATION WAS DONE BY OSWALD.* The "Hippie Version" fails to mention several of those shot had MOLOTOV COCKTAILS.
The famous pic of crying girl next to body in _Life,_ SHE IS ONLY 14. *WHAT IS A 14-YR OLD DOING AT A COLLEGE RIOT WHERE PROTESTERS WERE BURNING KENT STATE BUILDINGS WITH FIRE BOMBS?*
Neil Young sang that verse as a walk in for Lynyrd Skynyrd at a concert in Calgary. @@jeffcurtis5470
@@jeffcurtis5470 Southern Man....
All true but he was prompted into it by David Crosby. It might not have otherwise.
As a 75 year old geezer ( drafted June of 69) I don’t think anyone from the national guard was prosecuted for this catastrophe, the officer that handed out the live ammunition, no the incompetent soldiers who fired the rounds…all should have gone to jail..
They were prosecuted, but found not guilty. And now the motherless bastards are doing it again.
Before Kent St the protest against the war was just starting to come to a boil, after, it was a tsunami of protests everywhere. Nixon hated the hippies and then the protest movement, by the time he resigned, everyone hated him! Great Song, they have many, try Carry On for more CSNY greatness. Enjoy! 🎵🎸🎤🎸🎹🎶
David Crosby's cries of "How many more" and "Why" were not rehearsed, and by the end of the take, David was in tears.
The song is not about 'hippies' but students protesting massive bombing in Cambodia. Kent State was not a hotbed of counterculture. The four martyrs for peace were Allison Krause, Jeffrey Glenn Miller, Sandra Lee Scheuer, and William Knox Schroeder.
Nixon hated hippies. Unarmed students marching for peace. Every few decades this country loses its mind. I am still a hippie at age 67 and will never stop marching for peace.
I'm 68. I know what you mean.
I'm 75. I was 20 at the time, and you were 12.
True, and if not for my older brother and my father the news junkie, I prob. would not have paid attention. I am thankful my brother who is 7 yrs older introduced me to his music. Not intentionally, I was the pesky little sister that adored my big brother and he couldn't get rid of me. @@jnagarya519
I was certainly no fan of Nixon at the time but it's a stretch to act like he ordered the Guard to shoot the students.
Trump = no war
My pops passed away back in 2007 and my mom passed away in 2020. While cleaning out her house I found boxes of journals and diaries that I never knew my mom kept. There was so much I didn't know about them. I knew they were deep rooted in the counterculture but had no idea they were at Kent State that day. I'm in the process of trying to restore the journals. They weren't stored right and pages have stuck together and ink has bled through. My mom always said, "We were just kids who thought we could change the world with love"!
I support Mark's project to turn you two into hippies. 💚
Next up: Eve of Destruction by Barry McGuire. A timely piece, I'm afraid.
YESSS i also support both heh the **Hippies** & doing **Eve Of Destruction**
*OHIO IS "PART RIGHT-PART WRONG"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* IT IS WRITTEN 100% FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE ANTI-GOVT. "ANTIFA" OF THE '60s & PART OF THIS SONG IS 100% LIE. The only part about song that is true is Ohio Natl Guard ordered to fire on protesters.. *But thye don't mention they had already done $$$ Millions in damage to campus & were shot IN FRONT OF KSU LIBRARY W/ MOLOTOV COCKTAILS.* The Organizers (including Jerry Rubin) had stolen military weapons from out of state Federal Armory thefts that he was intending to pass out to protesters to kill 'first responders', then he hid & left campus after Guard opened fire....... *Funny that part of story never gets out, unless you were told thru the "military grape vine" & old VFW pals (but of course, never by the media).*
and then Buffalo Springfield, For What It's Worth... and Jefferson Airplane's Volunteers... :)
@@michaelbarnes4403 Definitely!
Jefferson Airplane- We Can Be Together!
Probably the best/most touching protest song ever, Neil wrote it in 15 minutes, when he heard the news, incredible.
Been listening to this song my whole life and it still gives me goosebumps
A companion piece with “Ohio” is CSN doing “Find the Cost of Freedom”. Definitely worth a listen. Another great protest song is by Graham Nash and performed by CSN is “Chicago”. It is about the trial of the Chicago 7 coming after the riots at the Democrat Convention in Chicago in 1968. During the trial, defendants were gagged and tied to chairs to keep them from disrupting the trial. Not a pretty time.
For what it's worth Buffalo Springfield, eve of destruction Barry Mcguire, many others
There had been some anti-war protest activity for a few days at Kent State before this incident. Some of it had spilled over into the small town of Kent, and there had been some vandalism and some confrontations with local police. Local and state officials, as well as university officials, were in a high state of nervous anxiety. Again, the day of the shooting, there had been some rock throwing at the National Guard. It was said that it was "standard procedure" for the Guard to carry "locked and loaded" weapons affixed with bayonets when being deployed in any kind of civil disturbance. There was never any order to fire, and in fact, soldiers had been instructed that if an order to fire were given, that first they were to shoot warning shots in the air and avoid hitting anybody. The actual shooting took place within 13 seconds. It appeared to have simply been the spontaneous decision of individual guardsmen. Some of those who fired later reported that they had been "in fear for their lives" and some claimed they thought they had heard gunfire directed at them. When many in the crowd responded with anger and outrage, some guardsmen warned them that if they did not disperse, they might be shot as well. Four people died on the scene; I believe two had been actively participating in the protests, though this does not mean they had ever become violent, and two had simply lingered to watch the protest while changing classes. Additionally, nine other people were wounded, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis. The incident sparked further national protests, and it was estimated that over four million college and high school students around the country participated. A protest in Washington, D.C. drew 100,000 people. Nixon established a President's Commission on Campus Unrest, whose final report concluded that the shootings were unjustified...In the broader context, the war was very unpopular, but I expect that was still something of a minority opinion at the time, and, as noted, Nixon won re-election in one of the biggest landslide victories in presidential history. It should also be said, though, that he had originally won election with some vague promise of a "secret plan" to end what was depicted as a "Democratic" war, and many people voted for him again thinking that "ending the war" was his agenda. Nixon never told the public that his "secret plan" was to actually widen the war, and pursue a more aggressive military strategy that would inevitably lead to a lot more casualties on both sides...It should also be noted, in comparing public perception of war today, and back then, that war conducted now by the Unites States uses a hired volunteer force of professional soldiers. The Vietnam War was fought largely by drafted enlistees. It's a lot easier to remain ambivalent about it if you're not getting letters in the mail telling you to show up for induction by a certain date or else go to prison...
When My cousin was 18 he was in a lot of trouble with the law and he was also given those two choices...Vietnam or prison and he chose Vietnam. He came back home and was never the same. He ended up on heroin and died many years later of an overdose. One night while on the phone I told him that if he wanted to he could tell me what happened and I would not ask questions nor tell anyone what he said, so he started talking and weeping and yes it was terrible and I understood why it was eating at him. I kept my promise to him and never told anyone what he said that night.
Excellent overview!
Outstanding comment: informative , concise and well written. I made some of the same points but you made them better.
@@prettybullet7728considering what you just said, and what your brother went through, your handle is ……….odd. A statement? An oxymoron? But what you did, that was a compassionate act of deep love and grace.
Thank you for this excellent summary and your thoughtful observations. Things were different in so many ways, and other things are just as they were then. I was 11 when the Kent State Massacre occurred and my conservative-minded parents were horrified, but they continued to support the war despite their reservations and the horror we saw play out on the evening news every night. My parents voted for Nixon in 1972 and would never have considered a liberal like Hubert Humphrey, who could have been a very good president during some of this country's most tumultuous years. btw, "Sky Pilot" by The Animals is another great protest song.
The voices of a generation.These songs are long gone
And yet the cries for peace remain throughout the world.
This was result of Nixon/Kissinger expanding US involvement in Vietnam into Cambodia.
Frightening days.
Written by Canadian Neil Young. Neil was in and out of the group over the years. Graham Nash was from the British Group The Hollies. Young and Stills were from Buffalo Springfield and David Crosby was in the original Byrds. Springfield and the Byrds were very influential groups which spawned other groups. I consider both groups Super Groups for this reason.
I pop a tear every time I hear it!
CSNY...some of the best harmony vocals in the business.
Every song on the Deja Vu album are great songs. All worth a reaction.
The hate and decisiveness of today is still relatively tame compared to then. It still brings tears today.
There are more protest songs from this era that you might want to give a listen to: "War" by Edwin Starr and "For What It's Worth" by Buffalo Springfield, an earlier group which included Neil Young are just 2 off the top of my head. Thanks for your great reactions!!
And of course "Blowin' in the wind" by Dylan, also "Fortunate son" by the CCR.
You may know that "For What It's Worth" was not written as an anti-war song, but a lot of people heard it that way.
CSN have a shit load of great great music. One of the top bands of the era without a doubt. They have the rare attribute of having voices that mesh perfectly and so their harmonies are unsurpassed. Steven Stills is a master guitarist. I would recommend Wooden Ships, but the entire Deja Vu album is incredible. Not a bad song on it and a few that are timeless classics.
And couldn't get along with each other because any one of their egos was too big for even the four of them.
This tragedy occurred at Kent State University in Kent, OH in May 1970.
Charges were brought against several National Guard troops, but none were ever convicted.
Eventually a financial settlement was reached with the families of those killed and wounded.
Oh? A financial settlement? That's nice. I am sure the families were thrilled to get that.
Or they might have preferred to have their children back - alive.
Their album four way street is one of the best albums of all time, every song on it is great. The album dejavu is also great
The protests were for peace, yes, but also against the draft that was sending young men to a war they didn’t agree with.
It was a scary time. I grew up 30 miles from Madison, WI and was a tween when police attacked protesters on the University of Wisconsin campus in 1967. Watching stuff like that on the local news really hit home. Our school cancelled a 1968 class trip to tour the State Capital building in Madison because it was determined to be unsafe. On the other side, in 1970 4 anti war activists blew up a building on campus, killing a professor. The violence wasn't one sided. Kent State was still the most disturbing of all.
Around that time, Graham Nash had also a hit with the song Chicago about the anti-Viet-Nam protests in Chicago during Democratic National Convention.
*OHIO IS "PART RIGHT-PART WRONG"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* IT IS WRITTEN 100% FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE ANTI-GOVT. "ANTIFA" OF THE '60s & PART OF THIS SONG IS 100% LIE. The only part about song that is true is Ohio Natl Guard ordered to fire on protesters.. *But thye don't mention they had already done $$$ Millions in damage to campus & were shot IN FRONT OF KSU LIBRARY W/ MOLOTOV COCKTAILS.* The Organizers (including Jerry Rubin) had stolen military weapons from out of state Federal Armory thefts that he was intending to pass out to protesters to kill 'first responders', then he hid & left campus after Guard opened fire....... *Funny that part of story never gets out, unless you were told thru the "military grape vine" & old VFW pals (but of course, never by the media).*
@@erickvermeulen9734 We almost didn't get to take our 8th grade class trip to the Museum of Science and Industry because the Chicago 7 trials were in session and there were demonstrations in Grant Park, but the Museum is in Jackson Park which wasn't being used by protesters. We did miss out on our 6th grade trip to Washington DC because of the demonstrations.
I graduated from High School in the month of the Kent State Massacre, and I can tell you that it radicalized many of us, including my husband, who was already in college. We are both hippies and have been married 50 years this year.
Yes, it was a peaceful protest.
CSN has always been socially relevant in their songs. A defining group for the ages
Proud Buckeye here, Ohio proud thru and thru. Sad that this piece of iconic history happened here. I grew up about an hour from Kent State University where this tragedy took place. I was a few months shy of my 1st birthday when this happened. My dad was in Vietnam in the Mekong Delta when this took place.
To hear a great song by CSN, one of the first supergroups, listen to Suite Judy Blue Eyes. It truly is a musical suite, having multiple sections. Great reaction.
There was a chart leading musical group called “The Association” (Along comes Mary, Cherish, Never my Love, Wendy) They had a little known harmony called, Requiem for the Masses. It was meant for the moms of the dead. Haunting!
I remember this all too well! I'm 72 and this was devastating! It could have been me but I was already in S.E. Asia serving in the war...!!!
The only time I saw my Mom cry over the news was when this happened. Love the song, blessed to have seen them live. CSN and sometimes Y. One of the first real supper groups. Enjoy
Another perfect song for those turbulent times in America. It was tuff for those of us that grew up in that period of time. Civil rights, equal rights, assassinations, police brutality, prejudice, protests to stop the War in Vietnam etc.
Sad Sad days that I hope we never see again ......CSNY and many other bands of that era DID their part for social awareness..... Wish more of todays artists would put it on the line as they did.
Another song that embodied these times was "What About Me" by Quicksiver Messenger Service. Thanks - Great reaction!
I was 20 yrs old when Kent State happened. This song still makes me cry. I lost my Dad in 1967. Within a year, i had lost 4 people that I knew in Viet Nam. I was 18.
Neil Young wrote the song almost immediately after the shootings, and the rest of the group got together quickly to record it.
Neil Young was also part of the band Buffalo Springfield before CSNY. They were very relevant in 60's counter culture music also.
yes he was in the band along with Rick Springfield.😀😀😀😀
@@markvanderstelt8999 ?????? Incorrect, and honestly laughable. I'm assuming this was a joke for 😂😂😂
Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth" is another great Vietnam protest song.
And for a fun version, check out the Muppet Show cover.
A song commemorating the May 4th, 1970 shooting on the Kent State University campus. National Guardsmen were called in to deal with a Viet Nam protest on campus. All unarmed protesters. At some point one of the Guardsmen got twitchy and fired. that started the mess. The NG was trying to disperse the protest ineffectively. Several of the protesters sang to them, flipped them off and started throwing rocks. Eventually some of the guards were give the order to fire over the heads of the protesters. Not all the Guardsmen got that message though, and some shot into the crowd. Shooting went on for 13 seconds. When it was all over, 4 students were dead. A dark day in our history. Great song to commemorate it.
As powerful a protest song as this is, you might also want to look at 'Eve of Destruction' by Barry McGuire.
I forgot how powerful this song was for its time ! It still has so much feeling in the tune
Love your reactions! At 72 years of age and a widower, they bring back memories. Remember Kent State, I was in college. What times..
I'm from Ohio and remember this well. In addition to the 4 students killed, there were 9 others wounded. Some merely going to classes and not involved in the protest.
As far as the band members go, all 4 had been in well known bands previously. Stephen Stills and Neil Young were in Buffalo Springfield, David Crosby was in the Byrds and Graham Nash was in the Hollies.
That takes me right back to college in the early 70's!! Excellent reaction❤ IMHO the best anti war song was War by Edwin Starr(1969)...SO much passion
The divide between generations was very clear, when it came the war in Viet Nam. Our parents were the WWII generation and it was hard for them to understand their children’s vehement opposition to this war. Many, if not most parents felt(early in the war, anyway) that if the government said we needed to protect the South Vietnamese from communism then that’s what we needed to do.
Most of America’s youth, who were being forced to fight, disagreed.
this song has so much meat and guts. brings me to tears every time i hear it.
4 of the top musicians of all time. Graham Nash, Steven Stills David Crosby and Neil Young = The Hollies, Buffalo Springfield, The Byrds and never forget Manassas.
This song STILL hits hard: to this DAY! SO IMPACTFUL! CSNY: some of the best harmonies you'll find!! HUGS, YOU-GUYS!!
Amazing yet horrifying song. Every time I hear this song that Life magazine cover with the screaming girl kneeling beside a dead student comes to mind. The horror on her face is seared into my memory.
The girl you refer to was actually a 16 year old runaway whose family had been searching for her and that picture brought her back to her family.
Ditto...we live in a crazy world & STILL no monumental changes...& ALL this stuff happening today has been happening since time immemorial smh
@@CosmicVagabondPixie as the great Billy Joel said “we didn’t start the fire. It was always burning since the world’s been turning…”
@@jaqathome Nod indeed & another great & powerful song
The protest this song was written about was the result of a Anti Vietnam war protest at Kent State Universities in Ohio and specifically the expansion of the war into Cambodia. There were violent riots across the US especially after the 1968 Tet Offensive until the end of the war in 72. These riots made 2020 look peaceful. In the case of the Kent State riots in Ohio it was the National Guard that went out of control firing live rounds at students.
The Byrds, Buffalo Springfield and Hollis all have musical catalogs that are excellent. One of my all time favorites is Hollis "Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress" Also "He aint heavy, his my brother" is a great heartfelt song.
Before this song, CSNY did Chicago about the 1968 Democratic Convention at which the city erupted in anti-Vietnam War riots. "We can change the world, rearrange the world. It's dying...to get better."
The band Chicago covered that event on their first album.
The song "Chicago" was a plea by Grahm Nash to get Stephen and Neil to come to the city to do a benefit for the Chicago 7 radicals who were on trial. Stills and Young were reluctant to be seen as supporting such a radical group and Nash was trying to persuade them to be there.
Check out "Barry McGuire - Eve of Destruction (1965). for an equally powerful tune. Oh, 'Atlantic Records?
When this was recorded, Graham Nash and Neil Young were officially foreign nationals in the US on work permits - they could have been deported at the drop of a hat and calling out Nixon by name had never been done. This song torpedoed the chart success of Grahan Nash's 'Teach Your Children' which was in the top 5 at the time. Ohio knocked it back down the charts and probably cost him six figures in royalties. And he would do it again in a heartbeat.
Before my dad died, we were making a lot of trips to the VA hospital and every time, we'd see med students from Kent State... every time I saw that patch they wore, this song ran through my head for DAYS! Impactful song, horrific event... that happened five months before I was born... but still, it was talked about long enough for me to remember hearing about it when I was very young.
The big issue as I saw it then was that multiple mistakes were made. Armed guardsmen were sent out to stop a protest that was possibly damaging government property and hostile students that were protesting against something (the war and the draft) that directly affected them. Everyone was college aged possibly even classmates and I feel that most of them were scared. The official story was that someone threw a rock or a brick which knocked down a guardsman and thinking they were under attack they opened fire on the crowd. The worst part for everyone was that the whole thing was live on TV because they were reporting on the protest. Just a total screwup that left four people dead and the nation wondering what the hell did we just see. Is the government shooting down citizens in the streets now? Why were armed troops being used against civilians and why on earth are people antagonizing armed troops? Just a bad deal all around.
Agree. Just to clarify there wasn't a possilbility of damaging property it was happening. The protest was all weekend and there were alot of non students on campus. They did set the ROTC builing on fire and allegedy fought with fire fighters who were trying to put the fire out. On Monday the day of the shooting was chaos and there was a standoff. The national guard fired tear gas into the crowd and the protesters threw it back along with rocks. Not that its ever okay to fire your weapond on unarmed citizens but as you say just all round bad situation.
The RAGE come from Nixon invading LAOS😱🤢🤬.
I was 16 when this happened at Kent State. Ivy league colleges were burning down ROTC buildings on campus state Universities followed suit.
Wake up Americans the government can and has drawn arms against citizens 😢😱🤢
@@jleahy9025 The famous "girl in the Kent State photo" was not a student. Destruction of University property, arson, and violence had marked many of the "Peace protests" around the country.
remember it all to well, I was in AF ROTC and was in the color guard. I was leading the annual May pass and review at the university. Student Protesters lined the parade route on campus, shouting and getting potentially violent. There I was with a fake M-1, not knowing if a fight was going to happen. luckily that's all it was. all in all though, I enjoyed the song... CSNY was my go to group in the 60's and 70's. Thanks for the reviews, especially from my much younger days
@@Steve-1951 when my oldest daughter went to college in the late nineties you could still see marks on the ROTC building where someone tried to blow it up in the middle seventies. People were using the building and they broke a couple of bricks and put a big flash burn mark on the wall.
Now is the time that protest songs are needed more than ever.
Anytime there was a good cause CSNY always headlined
Joe Walsh of the Eagles was a student at Kent State at the time of this shooting.
There was a huge rememberance celebration planned for the 50th anniversary, which COVID ruined. Jeff Miller's brother was to be the key note speaker, I believe. (Jeff is the one on the ground in the famous photo with the young girl - who was a runaway - crying over his body.)
Chrissie Hynde, from The Pretenders, also went to Kent and was present on May 4th.
Hippies, the most loving and peaceful generation. 500k young and not one act of violence, can usay that about rap culture, i am so proud to have been a part of this generation because we also had morals and respected out parents
*OHIO IS WRITTEN 100% FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF THE "ANTIFA" OF THE '60s.* Song does not mention protesters were shot IN FRONT OF KSU LIBRARY W/ MOLOTOV COCKTAILS after doing over $Million in damage to other Kent State buildings. Nor does it mention that protesters in background had military weapons stolen by Jerry Rubin to pass out to protesters to kill 'first responders' like Al Qaeda & ISIS do in Middle East. *Funny that part of story never gets out (especially from the media) since it so goes against the 'Hippie Love' narrative, just like today, on how all the building burning & shooting whites by BLM, and theft of $$$MIllions in donations by BLM Board & Patrisse Cullors is just accepted left & media*
From 1969 until 1974 the group recorded on Atllantic followed by Reprise and CBS for solo projects. Info from The Great Rock Discography book by Martin Strong..1998.
The even sadder part is that the Ohio National Guard leadership and the state leaders defended this.
My favorite Neil Young music was with his band "Crazy Horse" and their "Southern Man" song is CLASSIC!!!
Spring 1970: I turned 18 (and registered for the draft) while waiting to graduate from High School. This all happened: Nixon invades Cambodia, Kent State shootings, Apollo 13, 1st Earth Day, Beatles break up, Weathermen Underground declares war on the government, Bobby Seale trial(Free Bobby!) and so much more. We truly needed Simon and Garfunkel's "Bridge Over Troubled Water"(released that Spring). Crazy times, and Oh My the music.
I am 78 so I lived less then 50 miles from Kent st and still do. I know the protesters weren't causing any trouble one of the guardsmen had said he shot by mistake and that caused others to fire, but I don't know if that's true I was in the Army in 64 to 67 and I never fired a weapon by mistake.💚
Neil wrote the words to this song,only days after the massacre at Kent.He was with CSNY for a while,but he was mostly comfortable being a solo artist.
The National Guard that day was told to use live ammo in their weapons.They were clearly told to make a stand and show force. The shooting was just wild firing.People were killed who weren't even a part of the event,just walking to class,etc.
I was just graduating college at that time and this was a completely shocking incident. We were all stunned by the violence demonstrated by the authorities.
This happened as I was getting ready to graduate high school. Our world changed that day. I ended up being drafted and served in Vietnam.
Suggestions for CSN: "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes," "Wooden Ships." Suggestions for CSNY: "Woodstock," "Carry On," "Almost Cut My Hair."
Their " Judy Blue Eyes" from Woodstock is still a Big Favorite of Mine.
This Band was Really good at that Concert and the Crowd Really Responded to them.
The Kent State shootings were the culmination of a weekend of protest against the bombings taking place in Cambodia by US forces. We had agreed not to engage in any military actions outside of Viet Nam but had been doing this surreptitiously for quite a while before the news of it became public. The ROTC building on the Kent State campus had been set afire the day before this happened so tensions were about as high as they could get.To this day it isn't perfectly clear what actually started the shooting. Some say it was in response to a direct order to fire while others claim it began spontaneously when a random shot or two rang out and the rest of the National Guard unit, thinking an order had indeed been given to do so, opened fire. Two of the students who died were actively participating in the protest while the other two were actually just on their way to their next class (one was actually on his way to an ROTC class). There was also a second shooting a few days later that isn't nearly as acknowledged at Jackson State College in Mississippi. The intensity of these demonstrations seemed to die down after thee incidents
The ROTC building was burned down a week before May 4. When the fire department tried to put it out the students cut the hoses. The protests originally started in an effort to get the guard off the campus. Protests escalated over a week and led to the tragedy that was May 4. KSU class of 1980.
All these years later..... and this song still makes me cry.
So much uncertainty, fear, and a changing world in those days. I was a young teenager living a fairly sheltered life, far removed, or so I thought, from such things. Like many others, my classmates and I were not sure what to believe...but there was no denying that what we saw on the evening news was BAD, and would have repercussions far into the future.
We still mourn for those lost. We all lost...
An older friend of mine that I worked with was there. She said that's where she got her military experience. Back then demonstrators were largely non-violent, not like now when they feel like they have to riot, burn, steal, and destroy everything in their path. There are still questions about what exactly happened, but regardless, it should never had happened.
The protests were violent then, and for the same exact reason they're violent now: the police come to do horrible things to those who speak out for justice.
You cant understand how hard it is for me to watch you discus this dispasionately, when every time I have heard this over the last 50 years I have been reduced to tears.
two of those killed weren't even part of the protest. they were just walking to class.
The song "Ohio" - was written - recorded - and played on the radio in 10 days.
I was in college in Ohio when Kent State happened. There had been demonstrations on our campus too, but nothing violent. After the shootings, the schools were shut down for the summer, I thought the protests would resume in the fall when the students came back. But it was over.
CSNY+Tom Jones! Totally awesome performance.
Two students going between class, and two in a peaceful protest
I remember wiatching this live in tv. Niel puts some heavy songs down.
The artists of our day cared about more than multi million dollar concert returns.
I'm 10 years old, eating Dinner in front of the TV with my parents. Daily body counts from Viet Nam. Student protests. Then the Kent State killings. I remember being confused. What does a parent tell a precocious child? 5 months later and my school, in Montreal, has armed troops guarding it during the October crisis: Kidnappings and murders. This was a crazy time to grow up. The catalyst for some of the greatest music ever? Extreme times bring out amazing artistry maybe.
Powerful song! I grew up near Kent. So this is a rather well known event to those round here
The reason the song still endures today, aside from the historical and cultural significance, is that it’s a _great_ song. Neil Young is such a great songwriter!
I was 12 when this happened. What a time in history to grow up in!
Welcome to the opening of old wounds. I was knee deep in rice paddies, when this went down. While I understood the protest, it only caused more men to die. We could have won this “Police Action” in a matter of months, and without a draft, if allowed to do what we were trained and equipped for. Politically limited, we had to protect the South from the North. Instead of going in to Hanoi and ending this mess. Never enter a war without the resolve to win. Those who sell the parts to the war machine, want it to last for years. They had a lot to do with creating the unrest we witnessed. It’s all a scam, and we all get used. However, Congress and the MIE profit. Next example, Ukraine. I sense another draft, or WWIII.
I am born and raised in Ohio! But, I would have only been 2 years old by one month. Such a sad situation! CSNY a great song and an awesome group!❤❤🔥🔥
Love you two!!❤❤
you were 2 you should have did something.😀😀😀😀
@@markvanderstelt8999 actually, I miscalculated, I was actually 3, by one month…🤣🤣🤣
Neal Young was in Buffalo Springfield with Steven Stills, Dewey Martin, Richie Furay
David Crosby showed Neil an article about the incident. Neil went into the forest close by and wrote the song in about an hour. He then played it for David and then Crosby called Stills & Nash and they had it recorded within a week.
Neil Young wrote this song and played lead guitar on it. He played it at many of his concerts after he left CSNY. Ohio is a protest song and there were many of these types of songs during the 1960's and 1970's. I was a college student at the time of this event, and I attended many anti war protests. If I remember correctly, one of the soldiers panicked and started firing. Several others followed, and the killing of these students was the result. Over time more and more people were against the Vietnam War, and public pressure caused politicians to end American involvement. Great reaction, and if your interested in songs where the lyrics make a statement there are a lot out there.
Young wrote the music and words in less then an hour. Song was out in less then two weeks and took out their own song Teach Your Children.
Great song
Phil and Sam
I was 6 years old when this tragedy at Kent State University in Kent, Ohio on May 4, 1970. All week that students were protesting the war and other issues occurring that time. I don't know who gave the orders to shoot on that day. I watching this situation live on TV. Senseless deaths!