I would love a infographic presentation of this, just showing the numbers in big cities in terms of traffic and cargo. And making the case for cargo bicycles for business and environment.
One thing I've seen that made me think "that's brilliant" was a mobile bike mechanic with a cargo bike. Drives out to people to fix their bikes on location, which can be incredibly convenient for a lot of people.
yeah was so close doesn't happen that much here that way (from the back) if it would be me i might have looked back and give him the evil eye as a signal...
I always feel a little weird about this as it happens subconsciously. But some have criticized me for it. I always find people understand me much better than most though even when I don’t speak the native tongue. Not too many have commented on this, but I have to say it makes me feel good hearing your re-affirming reaction.
Really enjoyed watching this meet up, am thinking about my first cargo bike. I used to take our dog around by bike, many dog walkers use a car to take their dogs to the local park, forest or beach, because it's boring walking the same path every day. With the bike we could go for great days out, or just the shop, combining errands and a stop at his favourite park on the way, much more fun, sociable and active for both of us. Good owners tend to walk their dogs twice a day, in the morning, then drive them home, then go out again. This means they often have to make short local car journeys twice. My dog loved going on the bike, he'd get very excited as soon as I picked up my helmet and couldn't wait to jump on board. Everyone knew him, local shops loved him to come inside because he was well behaved. We chose safe routes only, lucky to have a few near me. Thanks for the continued inspiration!
Thx Tara! And this kind of content just rules. Spreading the knowledge of bikes, biking and the people involved with it is so important. Keep the momentum Propel!
Totally enjoying watching these videos and reading Building the Cycling City. When chatting to a friend recently he commented to me that when it comes to cargo bikes I was ahead of the curve, as I ordered in a cargo bike when no one else anywhere had one that he knew of in this country. That was 20 plus years ago and now cargo bikes are more common. I sure would love to see the cycling infrastructure here that I view in your videos. For 2 reasons, one it would increase bike usage and two as cycling increases traffic congestion will reduce. That would mean an overall fast moving city. Keep up the fantastic work. And yes thank you to your camera team. You are doing a fantastic job especially when your driver crashes and you just keep the camera rolling. Well done.
I like that you included the part of you guys falling over - it shows a very candid openness; the fight for good infrastructure is all about being truthful, and it also shows that you can fall over and be unhurt and safe. If you fell over like that on a painted bike gutter in the US, you could fall in front of a 70kmph truck and get killed or very seriously hurt. When there’s good infrastructure, mistakes are forgiven-good infrastructure accounts for human mistakes, it acknowledges that people swerve, fall, stop, and slip. Good infrastructure 101 is taking into account how people inherently are, not how you think they should be. (We see this same mentality with car-slowing measures like narrow roads and trees in the Netherlands and Belgium, as opposed to desperately-placed signs on the side of highway-sized streets in the US. Take into account how they actually drive, not tell them how they should drive!) Great video, you’ve earned my subscription
That was actually quite amusing seeing you ride a cargo bike through the neighborhood 2:56 I live in. ps. For those interested, Nijmegen is a little over 2000 years old.
I think it's "at least" 2000 years old. Just because the oldest record is over 2000 years old, does not mean it cannot be older. I think there was a reason the Romans settled there:-)
This shows why i deeply hate these 'cycle streets'. They use cyclists as moving barriers, and are no better than american sharrows. I deeply hate them, especially during the night. I've been tailgated and even pushed aside by cars on them many times. I don't understand why dutch cycling advocacy groups still promote them.
Those cycling advocacy groups never cycle at night. The red paint is invisible, lighting is mostly focused on pedestrians and motorists and I barely see any cat eyes being used. In fact, the road markings are just done badly for when it's dark. And cycling streets. They can be okay for small destination areas, but long streets with simply red asphalt is just stupid. Advocating for asphalt is stupid anyways, because that stuff melts during a heatwave while street bricks and 30×30cm concrete tiles don't.
@@Pfooh Drivers hate them just as much, I assure you. In the video you see the courtesy commonly exercised by bike riders, they'll single up to let faster traffic pass. But on these kind of roads, some asshats make it a point to not move aside since the entire road is "shared". Personally I think it'll be good when they will institute a 30km/h speed limit in towns as planned (except major thoroughfares), and revert these cycle streets back to regular streets.
@@kaasmeester5903 'Cars are guest'would imply to me that cyclist dictate the speed, and can keep riding two abreast without 'making a point'. They are just cycling, it's a cycle street. If they would have to move to single file for every car, it wouldn't be a cycle street at all?
@@Pfooh That's fine if those roads are short stretches, used to make the street itself more livable and/or encourage cars to find another route. Some cities use them as such. Others however use them to (their words) "fuck with cars"
Another great video, well done Tara for staying afloat under trying circumstances! I'm only across the Channel in Southeast England but it feels a world away in terms of progress. We're getting more and more Green councillors elected so let's hope for improvement soon. 🤞 Happy Holidays chaps. 🎄Merry Christmas.
The sheeps are not free roaming. But the bicycle path is used when they are relocated. I was once on this bridge along the rail and encountered a herd of sheeps.
Great video as usual, and Tara does an amazing job with the footage! Owning a cargo bike has been game changer for me and my family to drive less. I have taken the kids places, bought lots of groceries, and even took home small furniture! We just need better infrastructure here in Utah so I feel comfortable taking my kids more places.
Like I said on the other video I've been listening to Building the Cycling City, and your recent videos are a great companion. It's neat to hear about someone in a book and then just a few days later see your video pop up talking to that same person.
Love to see you happy on a bike in the Netherlands here. You are like me i drove grandma bikes when i was 8 in 1998, Now im 31 and still love to drive all kinda bikes especially the E-bikes. I own a Riese muller packster 40 and simply love it for grocery and just driving everywhere. And i own a Rockwheel 750watt Fatbike foldable from Esmaster. I kinda like it so much that when i go driving in the cargo bike i bring the fatbike with me, Lock the cargobike in a save parkingplace and go touring with the fatbike. Thats called double fun on the bike paths and trails over here. Peace from The Hague and i wish you and your significant other a merry christmas and a happy new year. (Y)
The fall was a good demonstration on how it is to fall of your bike as a 'Dutchy'. Say 99 out of 100 falls go more or less like this. We fall side ways on slow speeds, so you have time to collect yourself when you do fall and come away with just some scuffs at most and a brused ego. Our bikes are made sturdy so minor easy fixable to no damage at all.
Hands down Omnium cargo!!! Very versatile cargo bike, normal bike feeling whiles riding made me forget my normal, daily bike. I've been a cycle courier since 2009 in London, ride all different type of cargo bikes.
@6:19 BM driver showing so little respect for safe following distance. That surprised me. On my bike, in the USA, I would get angry in that situation. Am I misunderstanding that?
Yes, I think you kind of misunderstood the situation. First, you have to acknowledge the driver has good visibility on what's in front of the cyclists, and what's in front of him. He could see his way was blocked by other cars, and he could see Chris and Jos could continue their way. So he was slowing down, and never had the intention to pass Jos. In slowing down he allowed his car to get very close to Jos who was also slowing down, but I don't think it was very dangerous. Trust is also a beautiful thing ! 🙂 Dutch cyclists most times trust car drivers not to harm them.
Sadly, in general, people in the big cities in the USA are more angry than in Europe. It has something to do with the work culture and the car dependency. We have a more relaxed life in general.
@@xFD2x After being tailgated, honked at and even shoved aside by aggressive drivers on 'cycle streets' (in different cities in the netherlands) i can only disagree with you.
@@JacobBax It's why i hate cycle streets. It's cheap for the city planners, but there's no real infrastructure. They are really nice during the morning peak hour: hundreds of cyclists, one or two cars that fit in with the flow. Point a camera at it and it looks like you've done something amazing. (Which you haven't, if you had put the camera there before it was declared a cycle street, it would look more or less the same). But at quiet times, especially at night, they are a complete mess. Sparse cyclists are moved in front of speeding cars, and have to act like moving barriers.
Yes these are great. The German post use them a very long time. Way long before electric bikes became common. Also great for carry persons. 7:58 this is what I like in the Netherlands. The people are so funny and have a good mood. Some intersting facts of Nijmergen. Its a dutch city close to my hometown. I must say the bike garage is also very good observed. So your bike is safe.
I guess one of the reasons why 'we dutch' like to watch your videos is because it shows our own country through the eyes of a outsider i always see things i go 'hmm i should visit that' .... The only scary part of being too proud of what has been done is that we slow down and don't fully push for the best balance in everything that moves on either human power or electric power from the simple bicycle to a car/truck and anything amazing that will be possible in between with new design methods and electric motors.
Thank you Tara! Seems like every video she literally takes one (tumble) for the team! I love how she highlights all the tiny details in the video like the statue of Charlemagne, the River Waal, the little house on the river, the sheep... it made me feel like I was right there too! Amazing job!
I visited The Netherlands for about 2 months back in 2011, and I absolutely love to buy groceries from their supermarket with lots of selections. I hope I can travel again from Western Europe, from Amsterdam to Western Asia ( Turkey )
This video is so great!! I hope his story about the guy with 5 kids illustrates the need for cargo bikes that fit more kids in or on them. (especially e-cargo bikes!! :D ) I am hard pressed to find bikes that fit 4-5 kids (safely) plus at least a bit of cargo like groceries. It might sound nuts, but there is a need for this! Even 3 kids is hard if one is an infant and needs to be in a special seat, or car seat because they tend to take up a lot of space. Both myself and friends of mine have stopped using our cargo bikes for the time being, because we have many young children, but can't fit everything in.
problem with plumbers and electricians with cargobikes vs Vans is that A. they have lots of tools and parts to carry around for multiple jobs in a roundtrip where househoulds could be far apart, B. need absolute transport reliability and safety regardless of weather, time of day and season and C. work long hours and don't want to go home dead tired after pedalling all day everyday. good thing Electric vans exist.
I keep thinking about getting a cargo bike, but lately I have seen a lot of bikes pulling wagons in NYC, and to me this seems like the perfect solution: I suggest you provide a video on this solution for people who can't afford to buy both a dedicated cargo bike and a ride-around e-bike.
I have a cargo bike since two years for all my mobility. Its a prophete 3R in a 200k city in Germany. In the beginning of the pandamic I saw more people switch to doing groceries by bike. Most of them used a normal bike with a trailer or those "wheelbarrow" cargo bikes. Unfortunately I think a lot of them have already given up on shopping with a bike because I dont see them that often anymore. I buy always at the same time and there is mostly the same people shopping too so I assume they would too. I still see a lot of older people that do mini groceries with a normal or ebike though. In winter there is almost nobody on shopping by bike.
As a Dutchman I am not unreservedly positive about electric cargo bikes. They are nice but they also have disadvantages: - they clog up the bicycle path much quicker than normal bikes - they are faster and heavier than regular bikes, so more dangerous - cargo bike riders feel more protected in front, which makes some of them drive more aggressively. So yes, electric cargo bikes are better than cars but I think that in inner cities they belong on 30 km/h car lanes, not on bicycle paths
I like to owning one for pleasure in the summer with my two babies, but the cost over $4K, not a good moved for in States. And no one in the States wanted, cause the government in the states never really thinking deeply for safety. Take a looking at Boston, MA transportation department engineering the road for biking. Biker got killed frequently for sharing with motor vehicles. Most the trips in Boston area around 5 miles, should be safely fun to ride a bike like Europe.
I feel like the only thing cities have to do is build segregated bike lanes, and these will take off. Why would you choose sitting in a car over this, especially when the bike is faster, cheaper, and more enjoyable?
Before bike infrastructure changes, a country needs a change of the traffic laws. The change should be that a pedestrian and a cyclist are vulnerable traffic participants and all other motor vehicles are strong traffic participants. So in a case of an accident between a car and a bike, the car is in principle always guilty for 100% which can be reduced to a 50% minimum in case they can prove that the cyclist was also guilty of the accident (not signaling left or right, no working bicycle lights, looking on their cellphone while biking, jumping a red light, biking with headphones or earphones listening to music, biking under influence etc.). Car owners should be aware of vulnerable traffic participants and that it will cost them money if they cause/have an accident with a pedestrian or cyclist. This change of traffic laws will give cyclists and pedestrians a head-start in safety, separate bike infrastructure is next on that list. At least that’s my opinion.
@@RealConstructor yeah definitely, but good luck teaching and enforcing that. i live in the UK and people here really truly believe that the larger and more dangerous a vehicle it is, the more rights it has, so everyone else better pay attention. they are changing the law here in a couple months, but if you read forums and comment sections it's filled with motorists saying things like yeah right, why should i give way to pedestrians and cyclists, and things much much worse. laws need to be enforced and followed, which is why segragated lanes seems like a faster first step. you build them, people are able to use them, then more cyclists giving more cultural change. either way, it's definitely a multifaceted issue.
@@y2keefus The behavior of motorists will be enforced by insurance companies and your wallet. If you’re guilty of an accident, your premium will rise because of this law, and motorists will (eventually) change their behavior and be more careful/considerate etc. But you’re right, the government (and the people) must think it is worth it to change the law in case to get safer roads for pedestrians and cyclists. And don’t forget the benefits for everyone’s health and by that for a lower cost of healthcare expenditures.
Cargo bikes seem awesome. If I had kids I'd totally get a cargobike. I've seen too many parents with kids on a rear bike rack kids seat, with the parent's backpack right in the face of the kid. That's such a terrible view and experience for a kid on a bike! All kids should at least get some space/separation to enjoy the view like on a long tail cargobike at the very least, ideally in the front tub of a bakfiets style cargo bike with a full view of the road!
@@Propelbikes I agree! You don't need to have kids to enjoy a cargo bike. There are great fun (find the modell that fits your activities) for every day. Look at people that are doing bike trekking with cargo bikes. I use mine for everything. A friend of mine uses his to help him around his small organic farm. People with dogs. People who regularly have to buy large quantities or large things (like dog food, f.e.) - so many possibilities with a cargo bike.
@@sanhestar All that sounds great and fun, but hard to justify the cost and (larger) space demands of another ebike (especially here in NYC where space is a luxury) when I can accomplish all that I want to do with my current commuter ebike w/ rear rack. I'm not above having a 2nd ebike subsidized though if you or anyone is offering.
I just wonder if you have seen bikes with bags on the sides of the rear and one in front. That can pack quite a lot of small to medium sized stuff. Groceries for example. A rugsack usually fits in one of them sidebags, so yeah. And those are much more agile in traffic. For quite a lot of people such a bicycle is far more logical than this. And those are also considered cargobikes... These are bakfietsen.
@@PendelSteven Oh yeah, I have seen pictures of a windowcleaner carrying a ladder while cycling. Or 2 young ladies transporting a couch on 2 Dutch cities bikes. Balancing the couch on the front rack of one bike and the rear rack of the other bikes. They had to walk instead of cycling, but they transport he couch home without using a car.
15:44 I'm sure if he had been wearing his plastic and foam helmet that would have saved his beany from getting a little dirt on them. I'm an Australian and we are required to have helmets and I would prefer to have safer riding techniques and methods rather than wearing something so flimsy, on top of that the extreme sports don't buy something that is less than $10 from your local big box store they usually buy the same stuff that racing car drivers buy... so advocating for helmets in non extreme situations is really moot when most of the incidents are going to be a minor incident that involves a limp for a few days and an embarrassment. I want better bikes and better infrastructure, the current bike designs in Australia makes them want to go fast by leaning them forward and having them styled as racing... people just like bikes for... the ride, just like an old classic automobile, I doubt you would want to risk crashing that into walls, you want to... enjoy the ride.
@@Propelbikes Huge fan of yours and Tara's work, particularly around education and activism surrounding bicycle infrastructure and city planning. If you're ever in London I'd love to show you my commute through the center of the city with my great little french-made ebike folder I financed through the UK government Cyclescheme (which is another great topic on its own).
first you have to get young people to ride bicycles roller/inline skates and skateboards more then weed out the older car drivers who are to weak or lazy to do anything but drive
On a city level of administration, if the mayor wants to keep the votes of the majority which is old people who want to keep the city car friendly, nothing is happening for bikelanes unless there are free spaces left aside vom the streets for cars, which is not the case in cities. This happens in Düsseldorf, Germany. 1.000.000 commuters each day, no bikelanes to get into the city, traffic jams, I am faster by bike in the city centre, but I get overtaken too close multiple times a day, not given priority where it is due, get harassed because I can only drive 30 instead of 50 kph (traffic behind me at traffic lights is honking because they want to pass the light). If I ride cargo bike, its even worse. Ghostriders on bikelanes are another problem,even with cargobikes with kids in the front. They behave like pedestrians, ignorance is bliss.
In every video we see big road scooters driving on the bicycle paths? 15:24 for example. There were a couple electric ones in a previous video with Not Just Bikes also. Is it allowed? Doesn't look very safe.
Most bikepaths are forbidden for 45 km/h mopeds/ scooters, so scooters ride on the carriageway, with the cars. But in some cases those carriageways are too busy and mopeds have to ride by law on the cyclepath. You are right, the Dutch cyclist union is against mixing scooters with cyclists. There are also slow scooters of maximum 25 km/h speed, which by law are considered bicycles. The cyclists union is against those as well, due to high illegal speed of 45 km/h and air pollution for cyclists. And more and more Dutch cities order those "slow" scooters on the carriage way, with a few exceptions.
@@mardiffv.8775 I have a suspicion that the cyclist union wants those slower scooters on the main carriageway just to mess with car drivers. The same goes for some city councils. There's a lot of hate against cars lately, but there are a few cities that succesfully figure out how to accommodate cars, cyclists, pedestrians and public transport all together.
@@kaasmeester5903 Yes, the slow scooters have to move out of the cyclepaths, where those slow scooters have to go is not important to the Dutch cyclists union.
The biggest problem in the Cargo Bike idea is within the heads of possible users. Some 40 years ago a builder in Portsmouth had the bright idea of buying an electric milkfloat for his employees to use withing the city area. Portsea Island is flat and only six miles by five. Builders vans mostly stays parked once on site so the milkfloat seemed a good thing. Problem was the workers refused to drive it. it wasn't 'cool' ! Now EVs are becoming normal and will soon be mainstream. I see the same resistance to the uptake of cargo bikes in some towns, at least until the Local Councils improve the infrastructure.
Wow i am actually suprised he said germany also is doing alot of good for bikes in cities like berlin etc. I can not relate that. I am so jelous about the dutch and their amazing bike traffic support. best in the world pretty sure. I hope we change our cities to better automotive free enviroments soon.
There are some out there but I would recommend trying to find a shop locally to assist because they can need a good amount of support. Our general recommendation is a purpose built bike since it’s usually a lot safer and more reliable
Hee popel, i hope u are still in the Netherlands. If u are i have a challange for u. U have talked about bikes and public transport. I think u know about the OV card. But there is so much more we can do with it. Hmu if u intreseted
Sorry Bas, maar Chris is de eigenaar van 2 fietsenzaken in New York City and Californië. Chris wil gewoon zoveel mogelijk E-bikes verkopen, dus OV is niet zijn ding.
If 5-10% of vans are delivery and 25-35% are technicians, what are the other 70-55%? I find that delivery number implausibly low, at least for where I live (Cambridge, UK).
25% Food, 25% Construction, 5% retail non food, 5% Private owners according to the LEFV study by the Amsterdam University of Applied Sciences, august 2018
Currently The Netherlands has gone in lockdown and non-essential shops are closed. People stil cycle and there is no limitations on that. There will be less people cycling though as people won't go to shops and are working more from home.
@@sirquasi thank you for your info about the situation in the Netherlands Merry Christmas and Happy New Year Good will triumph over evil. Keep cycling everybody PEACE
There's of course less cycling through cities because the shops are closed. But there's a big trend in buying race bikes to a level that race bikes and parts are not available anymore. Everyone is going outside the city biking and touring.
@@Fjodor.Tabularasa -.-" we are a bit overpopulated as well. Not every country has that problem as we have. Besides the Netherlands is one of the places where viruses could easily mutate because of the farmers. Its not hysteria. Obviously not 98% was vaccinated so that also count. I know people (husband and wife) that werent vaccinated and ended up in the hospital 2 weeks ago. The wife even got into a coma. As well as my 26 years old friend that went into a coma for a month. My grandma went to hospital and had died if the cleaner didnt arrive. She had too low oxygen.
This only works in compact countries with decent bike infrastructure...like the Netherlands, and only so much: Most handymen, plumbers, contractors, electricians and whatnot carry more tools in their van than can fit into a single cargo bike. They don't all need of it for a single fix up or job, but if you have to cycle somewhere 5-10 kilometers to fix a sink then return to your warehouse to grab other tools and cycle again some 5-10 kms to your next assignment, you've literally already wasted 2 hours of your 8 hour workday getting the proper tools in the right place. And that's excluding having to transport say 20 Gyproc plates or 20 2-by-4's or a frigging central heating boiler... That's why they use vans: they just load it all up with their tools, stop by a hardware store to get the materials, tie it on top or toss it in the back and drive to their locations for the day. It might help out some services, mostly small deliveries within the city limits but certainly not most services and deliveries...
Ofcourse there's exceptions to every rule, but many services (food delivery for example) that aren't those exceptions could and should try using cargo bikes when possible.
Thank you Tara! You make Chris and the guests look so professional.
Tara is awesome!!!
Cargo-bikes just make far too much sense!!! I bought one myself last summer. I do everything with it.
Hello from Toronto, Canada.
Thank you, Tara. You endured the cold. Cycling makes you warm, you were on the cold spot.
Tara is awesome! She’s a trooper for sure
I would love a infographic presentation of this, just showing the numbers in big cities in terms of traffic and cargo. And making the case for cargo bicycles for business and environment.
I love this idea! I’m not sure we will have the bandwidth anytime soon, but I do think this info is very valuable. Especially around service logistics
Loving the videos of the Netherlands!
It was loads of fun to shoot and I’m so happy they have been well received
One thing I've seen that made me think "that's brilliant" was a mobile bike mechanic with a cargo bike. Drives out to people to fix their bikes on location, which can be incredibly convenient for a lot of people.
Some things never change, of course the car getting too close at 6:20 is a BMW.
yeah was so close doesn't happen that much here that way (from the back) if it would be me i might have looked back and give him the evil eye as a signal...
i love how u adjust ur accent to sound more dutch to ease the communication. great work
I always feel a little weird about this as it happens subconsciously. But some have criticized me for it. I always find people understand me much better than most though even when I don’t speak the native tongue. Not too many have commented on this, but I have to say it makes me feel good hearing your re-affirming reaction.
Really enjoyed watching this meet up, am thinking about my first cargo bike. I used to take our dog around by bike, many dog walkers use a car to take their dogs to the local park, forest or beach, because it's boring walking the same path every day. With the bike we could go for great days out, or just the shop, combining errands and a stop at his favourite park on the way, much more fun, sociable and active for both of us. Good owners tend to walk their dogs twice a day, in the morning, then drive them home, then go out again. This means they often have to make short local car journeys twice. My dog loved going on the bike, he'd get very excited as soon as I picked up my helmet and couldn't wait to jump on board. Everyone knew him, local shops loved him to come inside because he was well behaved. We chose safe routes only, lucky to have a few near me. Thanks for the continued inspiration!
Thx Tara! And this kind of content just rules. Spreading the knowledge of bikes, biking and the people involved with it is so important. Keep the momentum Propel!
Totally enjoying watching these videos and reading Building the Cycling City. When chatting to a friend recently he commented to me that when it comes to cargo bikes I was ahead of the curve, as I ordered in a cargo bike when no one else anywhere had one that he knew of in this country. That was 20 plus years ago and now cargo bikes are more common. I sure would love to see the cycling infrastructure here that I view in your videos. For 2 reasons, one it would increase bike usage and two as cycling increases traffic congestion will reduce. That would mean an overall fast moving city. Keep up the fantastic work.
And yes thank you to your camera team. You are doing a fantastic job especially when your driver crashes and you just keep the camera rolling. Well done.
Super cool Ashley! Keep on rocking!
And yeah Tara has a special level of skill and we are very fortunate to have her
I like that you included the part of you guys falling over - it shows a very candid openness; the fight for good infrastructure is all about being truthful, and it also shows that you can fall over and be unhurt and safe. If you fell over like that on a painted bike gutter in the US, you could fall in front of a 70kmph truck and get killed or very seriously hurt.
When there’s good infrastructure, mistakes are forgiven-good infrastructure accounts for human mistakes, it acknowledges that people swerve, fall, stop, and slip. Good infrastructure 101 is taking into account how people inherently are, not how you think they should be. (We see this same mentality with car-slowing measures like narrow roads and trees in the Netherlands and Belgium, as opposed to desperately-placed signs on the side of highway-sized streets in the US. Take into account how they actually drive, not tell them how they should drive!)
Great video, you’ve earned my subscription
That was actually quite amusing seeing you ride a cargo bike through the neighborhood 2:56 I live in.
ps. For those interested, Nijmegen is a little over 2000 years old.
I think it's "at least" 2000 years old. Just because the oldest record is over 2000 years old, does not mean it cannot be older. I think there was a reason the Romans settled there:-)
@@annekekramer3835 Absolutely. I am talking about having the city status, as per Roman city rights.
Super cool! Thanks for sharing
6m25s Typical BMW driver 😁😁
This shows why i deeply hate these 'cycle streets'. They use cyclists as moving barriers, and are no better than american sharrows. I deeply hate them, especially during the night. I've been tailgated and even pushed aside by cars on them many times. I don't understand why dutch cycling advocacy groups still promote them.
Those cycling advocacy groups never cycle at night. The red paint is invisible, lighting is mostly focused on pedestrians and motorists and I barely see any cat eyes being used. In fact, the road markings are just done badly for when it's dark. And cycling streets. They can be okay for small destination areas, but long streets with simply red asphalt is just stupid. Advocating for asphalt is stupid anyways, because that stuff melts during a heatwave while street bricks and 30×30cm concrete tiles don't.
@@Pfooh Drivers hate them just as much, I assure you. In the video you see the courtesy commonly exercised by bike riders, they'll single up to let faster traffic pass. But on these kind of roads, some asshats make it a point to not move aside since the entire road is "shared". Personally I think it'll be good when they will institute a 30km/h speed limit in towns as planned (except major thoroughfares), and revert these cycle streets back to regular streets.
@@kaasmeester5903 'Cars are guest'would imply to me that cyclist dictate the speed, and can keep riding two abreast without 'making a point'. They are just cycling, it's a cycle street. If they would have to move to single file for every car, it wouldn't be a cycle street at all?
@@Pfooh That's fine if those roads are short stretches, used to make the street itself more livable and/or encourage cars to find another route. Some cities use them as such. Others however use them to (their words) "fuck with cars"
That car at 6:20 was making me a little nervous
I thought my cargo bike would be more like a utility but now it is my daily driver. Just to convenient with also the space!
Totally agree!
The Long John bikes share an advantage with recumbents. The passengers are practically at ground level, so falling doesn't fall very far.
Excellent video 👍
Your content just gets better and better
Thanks for your continued positive support 😊
Another great video. Love the interview behind bars style.
Thanks! We’re doing our best to make this the new standard for our interviews
Another great video, well done Tara for staying afloat under trying circumstances! I'm only across the Channel in Southeast England but it feels a world away in terms of progress. We're getting more and more Green councillors elected so let's hope for improvement soon. 🤞 Happy Holidays chaps. 🎄Merry Christmas.
As a Dutchman, all I see is a very Dutch guy showing an American guy around town, pointing things out and just being very Dutch 😆
The sheeps are not free roaming. But the bicycle path is used when they are relocated. I was once on this bridge along the rail and encountered a herd of sheeps.
The end for sharing Lucas!
Wow this is so amazing. I am so passionate about getting cars off the road and get people healthy and on bakfietse to do their business. ❤
Gaaf, een heel mooie kerstcadeau!
0:43 Station Nijmegen
6:45 Keizer Karel Plein
7:54 Fietstransferium
9:49 Snelbinder Spoorbrug
17:47 Honig
Bedankt Heros.
Great video as usual, and Tara does an amazing job with the footage! Owning a cargo bike has been game changer for me and my family to drive less. I have taken the kids places, bought lots of groceries, and even took home small furniture! We just need better infrastructure here in Utah so I feel comfortable taking my kids more places.
Tak Tara, not only do you brave the chill, but you shot the video through the crash.
Like I said on the other video I've been listening to Building the Cycling City, and your recent videos are a great companion. It's neat to hear about someone in a book and then just a few days later see your video pop up talking to that same person.
Thanks! It’s pretty cool how all those things are aligning and we are happy to play our small part in helping to move the needle
Great teview well done to both ouf you, especialy Tara who carried on working despite looking like she was freezing
Thank you Tara!
And the great Propel videos just keep coming. Thanks Chris and Kara!
Nice video's series you make about your trip to Holland. 👍 I hope it inspires a lot of people.
That’s our hope too
Please bring a cargo bike festival to the US!
Never happen ! U.S. Is far behind Europe with bicycles
Working on it!
Love to see you happy on a bike in the Netherlands here. You are like me i drove grandma bikes when i was 8 in 1998, Now im 31 and still love to drive all kinda bikes especially the E-bikes. I own a Riese muller packster 40 and simply love it for grocery and just driving everywhere. And i own a Rockwheel 750watt Fatbike foldable from Esmaster. I kinda like it so much that when i go driving in the cargo bike i bring the fatbike with me, Lock the cargobike in a save parkingplace and go touring with the fatbike. Thats called double fun on the bike paths and trails over here. Peace from The Hague and i wish you and your significant other a merry christmas and a happy new year. (Y)
Commuting infrastructure takes time and patience. We'll said. Best Commuting bike channel on TH-cam.
The fall was a good demonstration on how it is to fall of your bike as a 'Dutchy'. Say 99 out of 100 falls go more or less like this. We fall side ways on slow speeds, so you have time to collect yourself when you do fall and come away with just some scuffs at most and a brused ego. Our bikes are made sturdy so minor easy fixable to no damage at all.
Hands down Omnium cargo!!!
Very versatile cargo bike, normal bike feeling whiles riding made me forget my normal, daily bike.
I've been a cycle courier since 2009 in London, ride all different type of cargo bikes.
@6:19 BM driver showing so little respect for safe following distance. That surprised me. On my bike, in the USA, I would get angry in that situation. Am I misunderstanding that?
Yes, I think you kind of misunderstood the situation.
First, you have to acknowledge the driver has good visibility on what's in front of the cyclists, and what's in front of him. He could see his way was blocked by other cars, and he could see Chris and Jos could continue their way.
So he was slowing down, and never had the intention to pass Jos. In slowing down he allowed his car to get very close to Jos who was also slowing down, but I don't think it was very dangerous.
Trust is also a beautiful thing ! 🙂
Dutch cyclists most times trust car drivers not to harm them.
Sadly, in general, people in the big cities in the USA are more angry than in Europe. It has something to do with the work culture and the car dependency. We have a more relaxed life in general.
@@xFD2x After being tailgated, honked at and even shoved aside by aggressive drivers on 'cycle streets' (in different cities in the netherlands) i can only disagree with you.
@@Pfooh Indeed, that was very close imo.
@@JacobBax It's why i hate cycle streets. It's cheap for the city planners, but there's no real infrastructure.
They are really nice during the morning peak hour: hundreds of cyclists, one or two cars that fit in with the flow. Point a camera at it and it looks like you've done something amazing. (Which you haven't, if you had put the camera there before it was declared a cycle street, it would look more or less the same).
But at quiet times, especially at night, they are a complete mess. Sparse cyclists are moved in front of speeding cars, and have to act like moving barriers.
Thank you Tara! You are awesome!
She sure is!
Yes these are great. The German post use them a very long time. Way long before electric bikes became common. Also great for carry persons.
7:58 this is what I like in the Netherlands. The people are so funny and have a good mood.
Some intersting facts of Nijmergen. Its a dutch city close to my hometown.
I must say the bike garage is also very good observed. So your bike is safe.
I guess one of the reasons why 'we dutch' like to watch your videos is because it shows our own country through the eyes of a outsider i always see things i go 'hmm i should visit that' .... The only scary part of being too proud of what has been done is that we slow down and don't fully push for the best balance in everything that moves on either human power or electric power from the simple bicycle to a car/truck and anything amazing that will be possible in between with new design methods and electric motors.
Thank you Tara! Seems like every video she literally takes one (tumble) for the team! I love how she highlights all the tiny details in the video like the statue of Charlemagne, the River Waal, the little house on the river, the sheep... it made me feel like I was right there too! Amazing job!
Thank you Tara!!
Cargobikes are the future!
For sure!
I visited The Netherlands for about 2 months back in 2011, and I absolutely love to buy groceries from their supermarket with lots of selections. I hope I can travel again from Western Europe, from Amsterdam to Western Asia ( Turkey )
Thanks Tara. (From NJ) 🙂
Amazing good sound quality! &, being NL myself (living in DE), I compliment Jos 4 his English. ;--] hYlkeW
“We interrupt this program for some goats!”
Goat: Maah! :p
Thanks Tara!
Thank you Tara. The videos look great !
Thanks for recognizing her, she is awesome!
This video is so great!! I hope his story about the guy with 5 kids illustrates the need for cargo bikes that fit more kids in or on them. (especially e-cargo bikes!! :D ) I am hard pressed to find bikes that fit 4-5 kids (safely) plus at least a bit of cargo like groceries. It might sound nuts, but there is a need for this! Even 3 kids is hard if one is an infant and needs to be in a special seat, or car seat because they tend to take up a lot of space. Both myself and friends of mine have stopped using our cargo bikes for the time being, because we have many young children, but can't fit everything in.
Stop making children! 😂
problem with plumbers and electricians with cargobikes vs Vans is that A. they have lots of tools and parts to carry around for multiple jobs in a roundtrip where househoulds could be far apart, B. need absolute transport reliability and safety regardless of weather, time of day and season and C. work long hours and don't want to go home dead tired after pedalling all day everyday. good thing Electric vans exist.
I keep thinking about getting a cargo bike, but lately I have seen a lot of bikes pulling wagons in NYC, and to me this seems like the perfect solution: I suggest you provide a video on this solution for people who can't afford to buy both a dedicated cargo bike and a ride-around e-bike.
I'd love a cargo bike someday. I'd probably go for an e-bike though to help with the loads.
Very Well made film. Sound-picture quality- Excellent !
Love your videos. We need tons more cycling infrastructure.
Not all heroes wear capes. Some sit in cargo bikes.
I have a cargo bike since two years for all my mobility. Its a prophete 3R in a 200k city in Germany. In the beginning of the pandamic I saw more people switch to doing groceries by bike. Most of them used a normal bike with a trailer or those "wheelbarrow" cargo bikes. Unfortunately I think a lot of them have already given up on shopping with a bike because I dont see them that often anymore. I buy always at the same time and there is mostly the same people shopping too so I assume they would too. I still see a lot of older people that do mini groceries with a normal or ebike though. In winter there is almost nobody on shopping by bike.
As a Dutchman I am not unreservedly positive about electric cargo bikes. They are nice but they also have disadvantages:
- they clog up the bicycle path much quicker than normal bikes
- they are faster and heavier than regular bikes, so more dangerous
- cargo bike riders feel more protected in front, which makes some of them drive more aggressively.
So yes, electric cargo bikes are better than cars but I think that in inner cities they belong on 30 km/h car lanes, not on bicycle paths
@6:18 - typical BMW, Audi, Range Rover move...
I like to owning one for pleasure in the summer with my two babies, but the cost over $4K, not a good moved for in States.
And no one in the States wanted, cause the government in the states never really thinking deeply for safety.
Take a looking at Boston, MA transportation department engineering the road for biking. Biker got killed frequently for sharing with motor vehicles. Most the trips in Boston area around 5 miles, should be safely fun to ride a bike like Europe.
6:20 Is it me or was that car really close to him?
Electric cargo bikes are the ultimate car-replacement vehicle!
I feel like the only thing cities have to do is build segregated bike lanes, and these will take off. Why would you choose sitting in a car over this, especially when the bike is faster, cheaper, and more enjoyable?
I totally agree, as well as secure bike parking. It’s the way of the future for sure!
A traffic calmed grid would also be nice.
Before bike infrastructure changes, a country needs a change of the traffic laws. The change should be that a pedestrian and a cyclist are vulnerable traffic participants and all other motor vehicles are strong traffic participants. So in a case of an accident between a car and a bike, the car is in principle always guilty for 100% which can be reduced to a 50% minimum in case they can prove that the cyclist was also guilty of the accident (not signaling left or right, no working bicycle lights, looking on their cellphone while biking, jumping a red light, biking with headphones or earphones listening to music, biking under influence etc.). Car owners should be aware of vulnerable traffic participants and that it will cost them money if they cause/have an accident with a pedestrian or cyclist. This change of traffic laws will give cyclists and pedestrians a head-start in safety, separate bike infrastructure is next on that list. At least that’s my opinion.
@@RealConstructor yeah definitely, but good luck teaching and enforcing that. i live in the UK and people here really truly believe that the larger and more dangerous a vehicle it is, the more rights it has, so everyone else better pay attention.
they are changing the law here in a couple months, but if you read forums and comment sections it's filled with motorists saying things like yeah right, why should i give way to pedestrians and cyclists, and things much much worse.
laws need to be enforced and followed, which is why segragated lanes seems like a faster first step. you build them, people are able to use them, then more cyclists giving more cultural change.
either way, it's definitely a multifaceted issue.
@@y2keefus The behavior of motorists will be enforced by insurance companies and your wallet. If you’re guilty of an accident, your premium will rise because of this law, and motorists will (eventually) change their behavior and be more careful/considerate etc. But you’re right, the government (and the people) must think it is worth it to change the law in case to get safer roads for pedestrians and cyclists. And don’t forget the benefits for everyone’s health and by that for a lower cost of healthcare expenditures.
Cargo bikes seem awesome. If I had kids I'd totally get a cargobike. I've seen too many parents with kids on a rear bike rack kids seat, with the parent's backpack right in the face of the kid. That's such a terrible view and experience for a kid on a bike!
All kids should at least get some space/separation to enjoy the view like on a long tail cargobike at the very least, ideally in the front tub of a bakfiets style cargo bike with a full view of the road!
I don’t have kids but I love riding my cargo bike
@@Propelbikes I agree! You don't need to have kids to enjoy a cargo bike. There are great fun (find the modell that fits your activities) for every day. Look at people that are doing bike trekking with cargo bikes. I use mine for everything. A friend of mine uses his to help him around his small organic farm. People with dogs. People who regularly have to buy large quantities or large things (like dog food, f.e.) - so many possibilities with a cargo bike.
@@sanhestar All that sounds great and fun, but hard to justify the cost and (larger) space demands of another ebike (especially here in NYC where space is a luxury) when I can accomplish all that I want to do with my current commuter ebike w/ rear rack. I'm not above having a 2nd ebike subsidized though if you or anyone is offering.
I just wonder if you have seen bikes with bags on the sides of the rear and one in front. That can pack quite a lot of small to medium sized stuff. Groceries for example. A rugsack usually fits in one of them sidebags, so yeah. And those are much more agile in traffic.
For quite a lot of people such a bicycle is far more logical than this. And those are also considered cargobikes... These are bakfietsen.
I just mean, every bicycle should be able to carry some stuff at least. You'd be silly to have one that can't.
This is an excellent point!
@@PendelSteven Oh yeah, I have seen pictures of a windowcleaner carrying a ladder while cycling. Or 2 young ladies transporting a couch on 2 Dutch cities bikes. Balancing the couch on the front rack of one bike and the rear rack of the other bikes. They had to walk instead of cycling, but they transport he couch home without using a car.
15:44 I'm sure if he had been wearing his plastic and foam helmet that would have saved his beany from getting a little dirt on them.
I'm an Australian and we are required to have helmets and I would prefer to have safer riding techniques and methods rather than wearing something so flimsy, on top of that the extreme sports don't buy something that is less than $10 from your local big box store they usually buy the same stuff that racing car drivers buy... so advocating for helmets in non extreme situations is really moot when most of the incidents are going to be a minor incident that involves a limp for a few days and an embarrassment.
I want better bikes and better infrastructure, the current bike designs in Australia makes them want to go fast by leaning them forward and having them styled as racing... people just like bikes for... the ride, just like an old classic automobile, I doubt you would want to risk crashing that into walls, you want to... enjoy the ride.
Can't you order a Gazelle with shipping? Might even be cheaper than the Aussie bikes?
If you make another trip make it in Summer.
The death stare @5:31 lol
Right?
@@Propelbikes Huge fan of yours and Tara's work, particularly around education and activism surrounding bicycle infrastructure and city planning. If you're ever in London I'd love to show you my commute through the center of the city with my great little french-made ebike folder I financed through the UK government Cyclescheme (which is another great topic on its own).
i thought those guys were behaving a bit strange
What is the name of the tunnel where the lighting changes to reflect the most frequent users?
th-cam.com/video/9rMaLRh8qho/w-d-xo.html - It's called fietstunnel Bemmel - Artlightwork at the bicycle highway RijnWaalpad
Fietstunnel RijnWaalPad
I haven't seen it by myself, but as far I can see from the local press, it is the tunnel east of the A15, A325 junction north of Nijmegen.
first you have to get young people to ride bicycles roller/inline skates and skateboards more then weed out the older car drivers who are to weak or lazy to do anything but drive
On a city level of administration, if the mayor wants to keep the votes of the majority which is old people who want to keep the city car friendly, nothing is happening for bikelanes unless there are free spaces left aside vom the streets for cars, which is not the case in cities. This happens in Düsseldorf, Germany.
1.000.000 commuters each day, no bikelanes to get into the city, traffic jams, I am faster by bike in the city centre, but I get overtaken too close multiple times a day, not given priority where it is due, get harassed because I can only drive 30 instead of 50 kph (traffic behind me at traffic lights is honking because they want to pass the light). If I ride cargo bike, its even worse.
Ghostriders on bikelanes are another problem,even with cargobikes with kids in the front. They behave like pedestrians, ignorance is bliss.
Hey that's literary a "dutch barrel roll"!!
What knowledge do you need to service ebikes ? Where to acquire?
In every video we see big road scooters driving on the bicycle paths? 15:24 for example. There were a couple electric ones in a previous video with Not Just Bikes also. Is it allowed? Doesn't look very safe.
Most bikepaths are forbidden for 45 km/h mopeds/ scooters, so scooters ride on the carriageway, with the cars. But in some cases those carriageways are too busy and mopeds have to ride by law on the cyclepath. You are right, the Dutch cyclist union is against mixing scooters with cyclists.
There are also slow scooters of maximum 25 km/h speed, which by law are considered bicycles. The cyclists union is against those as well, due to high illegal speed of 45 km/h and air pollution for cyclists. And more and more Dutch cities order those "slow" scooters on the carriage way, with a few exceptions.
@@mardiffv.8775 I have a suspicion that the cyclist union wants those slower scooters on the main carriageway just to mess with car drivers. The same goes for some city councils. There's a lot of hate against cars lately, but there are a few cities that succesfully figure out how to accommodate cars, cyclists, pedestrians and public transport all together.
@@kaasmeester5903 Yes, the slow scooters have to move out of the cyclepaths, where those slow scooters have to go is not important to the Dutch cyclists union.
The biggest problem in the Cargo Bike idea is within the heads of possible users. Some 40 years ago a builder in Portsmouth had the bright idea of buying an electric milkfloat for his employees to use withing the city area. Portsea Island is flat and only six miles by five. Builders vans mostly stays parked once on site so the milkfloat seemed a good thing. Problem was the workers refused to drive it. it wasn't 'cool' !
Now EVs are becoming normal and will soon be mainstream. I see the same resistance to the uptake of cargo bikes in some towns, at least until the Local Councils improve the infrastructure.
Thank you Tara! Does she have a TH-cam channel or account?
23:14 that car is WAY too close to you. It would appear it’s not all sunshine and ponies there bike wise. 😬
Where did the car go? Cargo bike.
Please increase the audio volume, it is quite low
8:00 The kind of random person that makes your day :)
Wow i am actually suprised he said germany also is doing alot of good for bikes in cities like berlin etc. I can not relate that. I am so jelous about the dutch and their amazing bike traffic support. best in the world pretty sure.
I hope we change our cities to better automotive free enviroments soon.
i want to have my classic bakfiets converted to an electric one. are there diy-kits to make that possible?
There are some out there but I would recommend trying to find a shop locally to assist because they can need a good amount of support. Our general recommendation is a purpose built bike since it’s usually a lot safer and more reliable
There are no cargo bikes where I live
Cargo bikes are a PAIN IN THE ASS here in Amsterdam and cause A LOT of freaking accidents.
Hee popel, i hope u are still in the Netherlands. If u are i have a challange for u. U have talked about bikes and public transport. I think u know about the OV card. But there is so much more we can do with it. Hmu if u intreseted
Sorry Bas, maar Chris is de eigenaar van 2 fietsenzaken in New York City and Californië. Chris wil gewoon zoveel mogelijk E-bikes verkopen, dus OV is niet zijn ding.
If 5-10% of vans are delivery and 25-35% are technicians, what are the other 70-55%? I find that delivery number implausibly low, at least for where I live (Cambridge, UK).
25% Food, 25% Construction, 5% retail non food, 5% Private owners according to the LEFV study by the Amsterdam University of Applied Sciences, august 2018
How can I get it please
Добрый день.
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So what is the deal in the Netherlands
Is the country under covid-19 restrictions?
How does that affect cycling both recreational and commercial?
Currently The Netherlands has gone in lockdown and non-essential shops are closed. People stil cycle and there is no limitations on that. There will be less people cycling though as people won't go to shops and are working more from home.
@@sirquasi thank you for your info about the situation in the Netherlands
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Good will triumph over evil.
Keep cycling everybody
PEACE
Yes unfortunately we are far from immune to the plandemic hysteria, full lockdown in order to 'build back better'.
There's of course less cycling through cities because the shops are closed. But there's a big trend in buying race bikes to a level that race bikes and parts are not available anymore. Everyone is going outside the city biking and touring.
@@Fjodor.Tabularasa -.-" we are a bit overpopulated as well. Not every country has that problem as we have. Besides the Netherlands is one of the places where viruses could easily mutate because of the farmers. Its not hysteria. Obviously not 98% was vaccinated so that also count. I know people (husband and wife) that werent vaccinated and ended up in the hospital 2 weeks ago. The wife even got into a coma. As well as my 26 years old friend that went into a coma for a month. My grandma went to hospital and had died if the cleaner didnt arrive. She had too low oxygen.
This only works in compact countries with decent bike infrastructure...like the Netherlands, and only so much: Most handymen, plumbers, contractors, electricians and whatnot carry more tools in their van than can fit into a single cargo bike. They don't all need of it for a single fix up or job, but if you have to cycle somewhere 5-10 kilometers to fix a sink then return to your warehouse to grab other tools and cycle again some 5-10 kms to your next assignment, you've literally already wasted 2 hours of your 8 hour workday getting the proper tools in the right place.
And that's excluding having to transport say 20 Gyproc plates or 20 2-by-4's or a frigging central heating boiler...
That's why they use vans: they just load it all up with their tools, stop by a hardware store to get the materials, tie it on top or toss it in the back and drive to their locations for the day.
It might help out some services, mostly small deliveries within the city limits but certainly not most services and deliveries...
Ofcourse there's exceptions to every rule, but many services (food delivery for example) that aren't those exceptions could and should try using cargo bikes when possible.
Simple observation..No one wears helmets in Europe ???
9:25 my kind of bridge /jk
Pizza delivery!
I kept watching, waiting for them to ride in a bike gutter...
I thought the title said white cities are better with cargo bikes
Damn, i’m pretty early
Thanks for your comment :)
@@Propelbikes np, love your videos
Thanks to you i bought an ebike
The stromer st2 belt drive
And it’s awesome!
Nice! Enjoy and stay safe
@6:20 that BMW driver should be ashamed.. That is not how you are taught to drive a vehicle in the Netherlands. What a plonker.
I want to see the bike not the face of the people talking.
If you go to the Netherlands there are loads of bikes you can see
Ngl the same people who buy cargo vans in the city aren't going to buy a bicycle to replace it
Well I’m sorry but you are wrong here. We’ve had many such experience in NY and it’s happening in many other major cities