The way Pippa talks about being so accepting of mold is just making me think she's been overtaken by the mold. If we scanned her brain it'd be less -human- rabbit and more mold.
Pippa is like that one cousin you love to hang around now and again, but you know you need to baby sit them a little to make sure they're not going to trash your house too.
@@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin Well you see Sergei it all began the post 2016 election when SJWs and that ilk became more and more fever pitched because the evil orange man had been elected. So some people on 4chan did a 180 and became the very thing they used to despise. Puritans(right-wing SJWs) and though in the beginning I believe it was just roleplaying, some got lost in the characters.
@@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 I have no idea what this means, I grew up pretty poor but I can confidently say I did not have a drawer filled with moldy vomit
@@ismellmandude6401 From what I gather her childhood. Her parents were good parents and she had a decent childhood. She was just a strange introverted child that maybe learned too much of the world too soon.
@@justiron2999 thats actually incredibly relatable, knowing way too much about things at a young age can be alienating when nobody else around you realizes how bad it is
it doesnt actually smell that bad, depends on the kind of mold tho. And the biggest factor is if the food has lots of moisture then it begins to ferment and smell.
I was thinking dirt floors to at least let the animals in to clean. She needs to live outdoors it's safer for her. Get some air not living in a moldy cave. Pee bottle girl has it better just a funnel and seal it in a bottle and do some chemistry. Pippa is a bioweapon.
I have actually seen a full on mushroom grow from mold on birthday cake leftovers. There was one time in my life when I lived in a room rented out by a friend of my parents and another guy rented a room across from mine, and there was a shared hallway and tiny kitchenette in between our rooms. The other guy had had his girlfriend over for his birthday and had a slice of a birthday cake each. For whatever reason, he had decided to leave the rest of the cake under a plastic cover on a shelf in the shared hallway and just never got around to throwing it out, so after a week or two I saw a whole ass capped mushroom grow out of what used to be the whipped cream on the side of the cake and curve upwards... About as long as my pinky finger.
Pee is actually pretty tame biohazard-wise: unless you have a severe UTI, there is only a very low level of bacteria in it. It's mostly water (90+%) and metabolic wastes (byproducts). The main issue with pee is : - (1) the smell, when bacteria progressively break down the urea into ammonia - (2) the nitrogen, because it boosts life growth (including bacteria) So a pee bottle, if properly screwed shut, is nasty but mostly harmless: once the oxygen is consumed, only a few type of bacteria will switch to consuming nitrogen as a replacement, so it will take a while to build up gases and bacterial colony. Meanwhile food left to mold... It will strive and grow unobstructed, consuming oxygen and nutriments, then start continuously releasing spores into the air to spread all over its environment. It means not only the plates of food are contaminated, but the entire room surfaces and air is moldy, which then goes into the nearby corridor _and_ ventilation system, spreading in the entire house. It means that once a mold colony started the production of spores, the entire house, every single corner with a tiny bit of humidity, is now moldy. For the humans it means it's spreading into the respiratory system of the occupants (their lungs, throats, noses, mouths), causing inflammation and infection, that can even kill if the dose is high enough. Pippa having to sleep above a drawer because she feels nauseous, or having to open the windows to lessen the symptoms, is just insane - normally you only see that in unsanitary housing (crack house, abandoned buildings).
I thought this was obvious? I was losing my mind hearing Pipkin trying to cope with how horrible her choices were by self deluding that peeing in a bottle was so much worse. It's the opposite. Peeing in a bottle is hardly even a major issue so long as, like you said, it's sealed or disposed of quickly. While I would neither leave food out to rot for days on end or attempt to piss in a bottle, the latter is much less worse than the former. It's not even close. If Pipkin is willing to self delude herself about this, what else is going on upstairs?
@Valkyrie Regalia It might not be that obvious if you live in a household that's not necessarily enshrining a culture of science. Poop and pee are universally seen as dirty, especially in the western society: babies are dressed with advanced multi-layers diapers, taught to use the bathroom as soon as possible, and a kid soiling themselves involuntarily is often a sign of psychological issues. Every single house and 99% of venues, offices, buildings have rooms (toilets) specifically dedicated to handling these things. So poop/pee = bad, must send it as far away as possible. (which makes modern recycling systems, that could massively reduce water consumption, unable to catch on so far, because people can't imagine poop and pee as valuable fertilizers) Meanwhile, food is not perceived any negatively: food = good, must consoom more. Especially in the western societies, where regulations (FDA and the likes) have practically eliminated lethal food poisoning. Same with hydration: more than 99.999% of drinks you can buy are perfectly safe nowadays. When was the last time we were told to boil our food or drinks to stop having diarrhea all the time? Likely a century ago (for western societies). So I'm not really surprised if Pippa would not see food as a potential immediate health risk: in western societies, the population only hears about bad _diets_ or bad ingredients (corn syrup and the likes), about long term risks (diabeetus, cardiac issues, etc), something that is easy to ignore on a day to day basis. It's probably why it took Pippa so long to figure out molding food might be an issue: she likely assumed food only kills you slowly over decades, so not a daily threat. ... As societies, we take a lot of things for granted. But as soon as we stop teaching the core tenets of our civilizations to new and current generations, like the importance of drinkable water, not killing one another over mere disagreements, or funding an education system, all these things will fall apart in 2 generations top, and will require extensive efforts to rebuild afterward. It's like washing hands with soap: even several years into a worldwide pandemic, the majority of the population forgot to do it regularly as part of their personal and group hygiene. The populations ended up using billions of liters of alcoholic gel (even when at home, with water and soap available) because it was easier to conceptualize for people (hands = bad ; use good gel on bad hands = good hands instantly), and faster to teach for health authorities around the world. There used to be massive public health campaigns about personal hygiene a century ago, in schools but also in general media, getting millions of households to change their behavior and include healthier routines in their lives. As societies, we stopped doing these, and the general population gradually unlearned all these things.
@@TubeofDestiny I do agree with your general sentiment, but Pipkin comes off as someone who has had access to the internet for quite sometime, and often tries to act confident about her positions. She does occasionally say not to listen to her, that she's dumb, or whatever, but I don't feel that this completely eliminates the atmosphere she creates for herself when she tries to justify a belief that is very ignorant of what is actually true. How she words things too often comes off as very self assured to the extent of coming off as arrogant. Like, when she words things in a very flammatory way, then complains when people take it as such, as if she expects people to see what she said in the same light as she did, despite wording it like an angsty teenager. She doesn't always take the time to consider how what she says looks like. Sometimes it seems like she purposely says things in this way to get a reaction out of people. But, other times, she seems dead serious. Like, when she was trying to water down her horrible lifestyle choices here. Was she playing it up, or was she serious? It's not always clear. Honestly, when I think of the worst thing that could come about from pee... It's mold and mildew. A house can be condemned if mold gets out of hand. Even if Pipkin grew up in a very uneducated environment, she surely has had ample opportunity to better learn about such things. But, here she is acting as if she hasn't. Thus the feeling of concern I have in return. And, let's be real, there is a percentage of people who watch her who aren't very bright who will believe in what Pipkin says. She doesn't seem like someone who one should go to for sage advice about life, but a number of people put her on this pedestal when she seems completely inadequate for the unfair position she is being put to by others. I'm worried if Pipkin may let that sort of thing get to her head and make her enclosed in a set of beliefs that are very flawed and unbacked by science. While I'm glad she's in a better living situation now, I'm not convinced she truly understands the gravity of the bad habits of her past based off how she talked in this clip. I can only hope she's come a ways since this clip.
@Valkyrie Regalia I would be more worried about the situation if she wasn't in the live entertainment business. That's why I think a lot of her inflammatory and "controversial" statements are in the context of a certain show, with a certain persona. This idea is further reinforced when it works well: she's got the most subs out of her company, and her audience keeps coming back to her streams. So regardless of how close this on-stream persona is to her off-stream personality, it makes professional sense for her to continue on this path: if it resonates and entertains people, it's worth keeping around. It's also a common trope: overconfidence, leading to jinx, leading to hilarity when the almighty character gets brought down from their pedestal. It's as old as time, ancient theater plays already had such mechanic. In the context of vtubers/japanese comedy, It's how "kusogaki" characters go: be it Gura, Laplus, or Pekora, they all boast about their skills, their power, their maturity, only to get punished in front of everyone. Then they act irritated as the audience laughs, creating that gap moe where the previously "strong" character progressively shows vulnerability, asking for empathy from the empowered audience that witnessed their embarrassment. ... Having said that, I agree the distinction between a comedy bit and reality becomes increasingly blurry: we're never really sure if she's serious _serious_ or just messing with the audience. That's the whole charm of vtubing, but also its main downside: we can build a parallel world that's more believable than regular PR (lots of personal unscripted improv in vtubing makes it more credible and relatable "fr fr") and flexible (unlimited lore), but it's also threading the needle when it comes to actually _believing_ in this world, it's easy to tumble down one side of the ridge, both for the talent and the audience. ... Additionally, the 'suspension of disbelief' is quite difficult for some people (unironically the case with the spectrum🧢), and ends up replaced with the 'affirmation of belief': to immerse themselves in a fantasy world, they need to actually believe it is mostly real, otherwise they're left out of the fun. So vtubers are either "liars who exploit stupid gullible people, they're not reaaal! fantasy is bad!!", or "she said she loved us, but now she's on vacation with her irl friends, how could she do this to me, she BETRAYED us!". As much as I have sympathy for these people, we can't overly sanitize everything to appease them: they're willing to believe anything, or complain about the smallest fantasy, it will never be enough. And I do believe we need to experience fantasy, as cultures and societies: if we can't imagine hypothetical worlds, we're more likely to experiment invasive potentially-dangerous thoughts _in the real world_ instead of keeping it as a mental exercise. ... As for Pippa herself, having access to the Internet does not make someone informed, much the opposite _nowadays._ Around 15 years ago, I would agree that going online would increase someone's knowledge, today it's the opposite: the noise-to-signal ratio has drastically changed, to the point that people are much more likely to be misinformed about any subject online, than positively informed. Information warfare and scammers have completely invaded the online world, while virality algorithms are actively strengthening misinformation. Even without someone actively trying to misguide people, misinformation wins: TikTok tips are trending up, despite being completely bonkers, because it triggers the curiosity of the ignorants, entertains the cautious people, while informed people calling such things out only reinforces the virality. The system itself rewards ignorance with popularity. Will Pippa start believing in the misinformation though? Entirely possible, we've seen plenty of knowledgeable people fall prey to actual paranoia and pants-on-fire conspiracies, after going through a difficult moment in their life. It could happen to anyone. I wouldn't worry too much about Pippa's actual mental balance yet: she still understands the difference between banters, shitposting, and actually going shizo - while her YT shorts and overall discussions about the vtubing industry show she can have a level-headed take on a subject if she needs to. ... PS: as for bad habits, specifically self-neglect, it is incredibly harder to handle your own, while it remains easy to point out what other people fail to do. I think christianity got an idiom about that, about specks and beams in someone's eyes. Mostly because self-neglect nearly always come along psychological issues - you never see happy, purpose-led people with trashy rooms with rotten food - so to improve the situation you would need to also confront these psychological issues simultaneously. There's also the mental gymnastic of balancing the need to do things orderly, with the mental angst of taking the lead in one's life. Things like going out of bed, taking a shower every other days, changing clothes, eating food and drinking water. When someone is experiencing severe depression, these things are actually a real mental challenge, that exhaust a lot of their energy. In such context, keeping your bedroom clean of dirty clothes or expired leftovers comes later down the list of priorities: even without depression, it's typical for people with any sort of fatigue to have a messy place. If anything, I believe having a happier, more stable Pippa will do much more to her self-discipline and hygiene, than us trying to wrangle her into acknowledging that was some crazy unhealthy stuff - even if it needs to be said at least once.
It was used to degrease sheep wool cloth, as the natural grease/oil on the raw wool is needed as part of the weaving process. Iffen your surname is Fuller, you are descended from people whose job was to stomp on wool cloth in vats of piss all day.
Ive been in some dire straits in life but not to where there were serious sanitation problems... when I lived in a trailer I had mice in the walls and ceiling anndd in the kitchen there was a wall where there was a clear separation between the wall and the floor, you could see sunlight through it
Whoever's gone through chronic depression or still struggles with it in their life can relate to this unfortunately. I respect Pippa for openly talking about it and I hope she's doing much better now
My god... As much as I do enjoy Pipps, she really is just the living embodiment of "Don't believe everything you hear online, son." Listening to her talk about mold vs. pee bottles was.... somethin.
Pipa: "Every day we rot, our flesh becomes more and more broken. It degrades, Lumi! The flesh is only temporary, but the love of a simp is eternal. That's why it's good that you have the LumiGumis. We degrade, Lumi Our bodies do not last. Our bodies, Lumi."
Both the mold and pee bottles are really bad but the mold is definitely worse IF the pee bottles were sealed with caps. She was breathing in mold and getting sick from it! Pippa that is definitely worse!
You know sometimes I see a bit too much clutter or dust in my room and I think I’m too messy. This just made me realize that it could be much worse. I’ve never needed a “vomit drawer” at least and my biggest living space hygiene annoyance is dust. I hate dust.
Peeing in bottles is absolutely horrendous, but the mold is friggin worse. At an old job I had, we did mold mitigation a couple times and that was THE WORST. One time we were replacing the dry wall in a basement that was flooded. I was working with a respirator down there, and I don't know if it was because I would take the respirator off when I wasn't explicitly down there or if I had assembled it wrong or something, but after a week on that job I got a really bloody nose. I don't get bloody noses when things are normal, like how some people will get nosebleeds when the air is too dry. Mold is awful and Pippa probably did actually lose 20 years off her life.
Someone should tell Pippa that if you let things get moldy long enough, it seeps into the walls and the room itself becomes a moldfest. That room probably needs a pro to come in and purge it with tons of chemicals.
Dude the more clips I find of pipa the literal rabbit hole is revealing a very very.....interesting person. Complete and total autistic type blindess of terrifying proportions! Like how many things is she willing to yell about for other peoples sanitation choices, while she is literally talking about life threatening choices. She is like this about so many things it is so wild. She acts like she is better now but I doubt it. The way she actually leaned over to look for forks omg. Hilarious and scary. True degen gamer moment.
Roquefort and Gorgonzola blue cheese are good, the rest are either overpriced or bad, and whoever thought to put blue cheese in ranch dressing bottles might be a Pipkin.
Vomit drawer is very relatable though. I have a trash can in my room that used to be by my desk but is now by my bed due to having woken up multiple times and immediately vomited. Cleaning up a pool of vomit on the floor right next to your bed is not fun, do not recommend, have a vomit receptacle nearby at all times.
"not a feeder" not the first time I've heard this specific line from Lumi.
Me thinks Lumi doth protest too much
The more she denies....
She's already admitted to being a breeder, she's got one foot in the grave
TV Tropes calls that a "suspiciously specific denial".
@@radian063 Or more commonly know as A FREUDIAN SLIP
Pippa: mold is not a biohazard !
Biohazard 7: A videogame about mold
Re8: the mold became the hero.
Literally mold zombies in The Last of Us.
Yeah, Pippa could totally be the final BOW, just a giant mold woman.
@@dontshanonau1335that is a fungus, not a mold.
Pippa really sounds like she was embodiment of "Damn bitch you live like this?" Glad she's in better shape now
She sounds like peak post-highschool kuroko from watamote, but without the yuri arc.
@@tumamaencosplay thank god she became such a bitch magnet, probably saved her life.
@@tumamaencosplay without the yuri arc YET.
Well, apart from her dental situation.
@@Klint_Izwuddsnaggle tooth pips
Lumi trying to come to terms with what she's hearing while it gets worse and worse makes this for me lmao
The way Pippa talks about being so accepting of mold is just making me think she's been overtaken by the mold. If we scanned her brain it'd be less -human- rabbit and more mold.
There's a Junji Ito story about that.
@@urishima of course there is.
She is a fungus amongus
...actually... It kinda does that. I mean, mold has spores and toxins you may breathe in or maybe eat on a daily basis.
She's really a cordycep that has taken over Pippa's body & decided to become a vtuber🍄
Pippa is like that one cousin you love to hang around now and again, but you know you need to baby sit them a little to make sure they're not going to trash your house too.
_A little_
Pippa is just trying to discover the next antibiotic, bros. She is the science!
Or the next medication-resistant spore, virus or bacterium.
Absolutly cursed, but at least pippas slowly but surely improving
thats not good. the tism is needed
@@Monsoon_Enjoyer what?
We need to pool our money together, and hire a doctor or something to sit Pippa down for a long talk about proper hygiene.
also hire a company to fumigate the house
@@Digitaaliklosetti
And a priest to exorcise whatever ghost mistook it for a morgue
We need to get Pippa to interview Jordan B Peterson
@@bar-1studios wash ya peenis, pippa
@@Digitaaliklosetti dear lord now you have me pondering the sorry state of Pippa's sex toys.
Plate mould? Aight. Vomit tub? Aight. PEE BOTTLE? AY YO TOO FAR!!!!
Wasn't it a puke drawer?
@@justiron2999 U rite homeboy but pipper used tub and drawer interchangeably in this clipperino
@@jimmy_ink Still ewww but thanks for the clarification.
A pee bottle is actually more normal than those other things. Not that I have any of them.
She's pre-2016 4chan incarnate
You mean before they became trad larpers?
@@ottomackensen I still have no idea where the fuck that shit came from, 4chan is about the farthest place you can get from "trad Christian values"
@@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin Well you see Sergei it all began the post 2016 election when SJWs and that ilk became more and more fever pitched because the evil orange man had been elected. So some people on 4chan did a 180 and became the very thing they used to despise. Puritans(right-wing SJWs) and though in the beginning I believe it was just roleplaying, some got lost in the characters.
@@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin I think thats just because they reject to be pc or woke. 4chan isn't any worse or better than it was a year or a decade ago
@@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin some of them don't even watch anime.
"Only shooting stars break the mold"
"That's not bad."
Y'all know how streamers have a "drink water" reminder? I think Pippa needs a "bring dish/es" out reminder.
SO bad it's a don't minecraft yaself reminder. She already admits it's 20 years of damage. She gonna graduate from life.
Pippa's mom being okay with the vomit drawer definitely says more than anyone can realize without extensive psychological training
You're this shocked that poor people exist?
@@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 I have no idea what this means, I grew up pretty poor but I can confidently say I did not have a drawer filled with moldy vomit
@@justsomerando718 so your life experience dictates what should be normal for everyone else?
@@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 yes
@@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 I'm pretty confident 99% of the population rich and poor think drawers filled with moldy vomit are gross and unhealthy
Its funny and shit but to get to that degree she must've been close to unaliving herself, im glad she's in a better spot, pipkin and all
She was in a bad spot but she's getting better.
@@justiron2999 Did she ever talk about why she was like that?
@@ismellmandude6401 From what I gather her childhood. Her parents were good parents and she had a decent childhood. She was just a strange introverted child that maybe learned too much of the world too soon.
@@justiron2999 thats actually incredibly relatable, knowing way too much about things at a young age can be alienating when nobody else around you realizes how bad it is
Pippa's copium is insane.
I can't fix her bros. She's to far gone.
What's to fix, she's perfect
@@RWAY-hm8gj
The motherfucker lives in mold. You can’t be okay in the head and live in mold. Those are mutually exclusive circumstances.
Imagine the smell
😢🤢🤮
I'd rather not
Conceptualise the fragrance
@@genyatus Picture, if you will, the effluvium
it doesnt actually smell that bad, depends on the kind of mold tho. And the biggest factor is if the food has lots of moisture then it begins to ferment and smell.
Ironmouse: Lives in a sterile ,hermetically sealed room
Pippa: I am the mold of my sword.
Pippa and Lumi bring out the best and the absolute weirdest in each other, it's always amazing to see
"The mold was so bad that it made it hurt to breathe"
Holy shit, I am genuinely concerned for Pippa.
"Hard wood"
Pippa needs TILE floors AND walls.
And ceiling.
She needs padded walls and floors though
Alternatively, padded everything and a hug-yourself jacket.
I was thinking dirt floors to at least let the animals in to clean. She needs to live outdoors it's safer for her. Get some air not living in a moldy cave. Pee bottle girl has it better just a funnel and seal it in a bottle and do some chemistry. Pippa is a bioweapon.
Honestly, just go full epoxy man, dont give a seam for anything to seep through
With a drain in the floor
Mold Grower vs Bottle Pisser
I dunno who's more a mold gremlin. Pippa, Non, or Remi.
Also Lumi's model is so fucking expressive it had me in tears for the whole stream.
There's other moldtubers!?!? Oh no....
uruka is pretty bad too, with the moldy fish tray and all of her chopsticks
@@teppizini
What a cursed word.
Why, God…?
Pippa: "That's disgusting."
Ki-Sillious: "HYPOCRITE!"
Usual ideal idol: clean and poops flowers
Pippa: vomit drawer tub
This just feeds into my theory that vtuber managers are more like caretakers.
I have actually seen a full on mushroom grow from mold on birthday cake leftovers.
There was one time in my life when I lived in a room rented out by a friend of my parents and another guy rented a room across from mine, and there was a shared hallway and tiny kitchenette in between our rooms.
The other guy had had his girlfriend over for his birthday and had a slice of a birthday cake each.
For whatever reason, he had decided to leave the rest of the cake under a plastic cover on a shelf in the shared hallway and just never got around to throwing it out, so after a week or two I saw a whole ass capped mushroom grow out of what used to be the whipped cream on the side of the cake and curve upwards... About as long as my pinky finger.
At least something grew on it, means it was a good cake 😊
Sometimes, I'm genuinely concerned about Pippa. Strike that, often. But I guess she's on the way to betterment, which is good.
Saaame
this conversation just makes me think that Pippa has a stanky snizz
Imagine the smell
She is absolutely a devote of Nurgle.
Pee is actually pretty tame biohazard-wise: unless you have a severe UTI, there is only a very low level of bacteria in it. It's mostly water (90+%) and metabolic wastes (byproducts).
The main issue with pee is :
- (1) the smell, when bacteria progressively break down the urea into ammonia
- (2) the nitrogen, because it boosts life growth (including bacteria)
So a pee bottle, if properly screwed shut, is nasty but mostly harmless: once the oxygen is consumed, only a few type of bacteria will switch to consuming nitrogen as a replacement, so it will take a while to build up gases and bacterial colony.
Meanwhile food left to mold... It will strive and grow unobstructed, consuming oxygen and nutriments, then start continuously releasing spores into the air to spread all over its environment. It means not only the plates of food are contaminated, but the entire room surfaces and air is moldy, which then goes into the nearby corridor _and_ ventilation system, spreading in the entire house. It means that once a mold colony started the production of spores, the entire house, every single corner with a tiny bit of humidity, is now moldy.
For the humans it means it's spreading into the respiratory system of the occupants (their lungs, throats, noses, mouths), causing inflammation and infection, that can even kill if the dose is high enough. Pippa having to sleep above a drawer because she feels nauseous, or having to open the windows to lessen the symptoms, is just insane - normally you only see that in unsanitary housing (crack house, abandoned buildings).
I thought this was obvious? I was losing my mind hearing Pipkin trying to cope with how horrible her choices were by self deluding that peeing in a bottle was so much worse. It's the opposite. Peeing in a bottle is hardly even a major issue so long as, like you said, it's sealed or disposed of quickly. While I would neither leave food out to rot for days on end or attempt to piss in a bottle, the latter is much less worse than the former. It's not even close. If Pipkin is willing to self delude herself about this, what else is going on upstairs?
@Valkyrie Regalia It might not be that obvious if you live in a household that's not necessarily enshrining a culture of science.
Poop and pee are universally seen as dirty, especially in the western society: babies are dressed with advanced multi-layers diapers, taught to use the bathroom as soon as possible, and a kid soiling themselves involuntarily is often a sign of psychological issues. Every single house and 99% of venues, offices, buildings have rooms (toilets) specifically dedicated to handling these things. So poop/pee = bad, must send it as far away as possible.
(which makes modern recycling systems, that could massively reduce water consumption, unable to catch on so far, because people can't imagine poop and pee as valuable fertilizers)
Meanwhile, food is not perceived any negatively: food = good, must consoom more.
Especially in the western societies, where regulations (FDA and the likes) have practically eliminated lethal food poisoning. Same with hydration: more than 99.999% of drinks you can buy are perfectly safe nowadays. When was the last time we were told to boil our food or drinks to stop having diarrhea all the time? Likely a century ago (for western societies).
So I'm not really surprised if Pippa would not see food as a potential immediate health risk: in western societies, the population only hears about bad _diets_ or bad ingredients (corn syrup and the likes), about long term risks (diabeetus, cardiac issues, etc), something that is easy to ignore on a day to day basis.
It's probably why it took Pippa so long to figure out molding food might be an issue: she likely assumed food only kills you slowly over decades, so not a daily threat.
...
As societies, we take a lot of things for granted. But as soon as we stop teaching the core tenets of our civilizations to new and current generations, like the importance of drinkable water, not killing one another over mere disagreements, or funding an education system, all these things will fall apart in 2 generations top, and will require extensive efforts to rebuild afterward.
It's like washing hands with soap: even several years into a worldwide pandemic, the majority of the population forgot to do it regularly as part of their personal and group hygiene.
The populations ended up using billions of liters of alcoholic gel (even when at home, with water and soap available) because it was easier to conceptualize for people (hands = bad ; use good gel on bad hands = good hands instantly), and faster to teach for health authorities around the world.
There used to be massive public health campaigns about personal hygiene a century ago, in schools but also in general media, getting millions of households to change their behavior and include healthier routines in their lives. As societies, we stopped doing these, and the general population gradually unlearned all these things.
@@TubeofDestiny I do agree with your general sentiment, but Pipkin comes off as someone who has had access to the internet for quite sometime, and often tries to act confident about her positions. She does occasionally say not to listen to her, that she's dumb, or whatever, but I don't feel that this completely eliminates the atmosphere she creates for herself when she tries to justify a belief that is very ignorant of what is actually true. How she words things too often comes off as very self assured to the extent of coming off as arrogant.
Like, when she words things in a very flammatory way, then complains when people take it as such, as if she expects people to see what she said in the same light as she did, despite wording it like an angsty teenager. She doesn't always take the time to consider how what she says looks like. Sometimes it seems like she purposely says things in this way to get a reaction out of people. But, other times, she seems dead serious. Like, when she was trying to water down her horrible lifestyle choices here. Was she playing it up, or was she serious? It's not always clear.
Honestly, when I think of the worst thing that could come about from pee... It's mold and mildew. A house can be condemned if mold gets out of hand. Even if Pipkin grew up in a very uneducated environment, she surely has had ample opportunity to better learn about such things. But, here she is acting as if she hasn't. Thus the feeling of concern I have in return. And, let's be real, there is a percentage of people who watch her who aren't very bright who will believe in what Pipkin says. She doesn't seem like someone who one should go to for sage advice about life, but a number of people put her on this pedestal when she seems completely inadequate for the unfair position she is being put to by others. I'm worried if Pipkin may let that sort of thing get to her head and make her enclosed in a set of beliefs that are very flawed and unbacked by science. While I'm glad she's in a better living situation now, I'm not convinced she truly understands the gravity of the bad habits of her past based off how she talked in this clip. I can only hope she's come a ways since this clip.
@Valkyrie Regalia I would be more worried about the situation if she wasn't in the live entertainment business.
That's why I think a lot of her inflammatory and "controversial" statements are in the context of a certain show, with a certain persona. This idea is further reinforced when it works well: she's got the most subs out of her company, and her audience keeps coming back to her streams.
So regardless of how close this on-stream persona is to her off-stream personality, it makes professional sense for her to continue on this path: if it resonates and entertains people, it's worth keeping around.
It's also a common trope: overconfidence, leading to jinx, leading to hilarity when the almighty character gets brought down from their pedestal. It's as old as time, ancient theater plays already had such mechanic.
In the context of vtubers/japanese comedy, It's how "kusogaki" characters go: be it Gura, Laplus, or Pekora, they all boast about their skills, their power, their maturity, only to get punished in front of everyone. Then they act irritated as the audience laughs, creating that gap moe where the previously "strong" character progressively shows vulnerability, asking for empathy from the empowered audience that witnessed their embarrassment.
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Having said that, I agree the distinction between a comedy bit and reality becomes increasingly blurry: we're never really sure if she's serious _serious_ or just messing with the audience.
That's the whole charm of vtubing, but also its main downside: we can build a parallel world that's more believable than regular PR (lots of personal unscripted improv in vtubing makes it more credible and relatable "fr fr") and flexible (unlimited lore), but it's also threading the needle when it comes to actually _believing_ in this world, it's easy to tumble down one side of the ridge, both for the talent and the audience.
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Additionally, the 'suspension of disbelief' is quite difficult for some people (unironically the case with the spectrum🧢), and ends up replaced with the 'affirmation of belief': to immerse themselves in a fantasy world, they need to actually believe it is mostly real, otherwise they're left out of the fun.
So vtubers are either "liars who exploit stupid gullible people, they're not reaaal! fantasy is bad!!", or "she said she loved us, but now she's on vacation with her irl friends, how could she do this to me, she BETRAYED us!".
As much as I have sympathy for these people, we can't overly sanitize everything to appease them: they're willing to believe anything, or complain about the smallest fantasy, it will never be enough.
And I do believe we need to experience fantasy, as cultures and societies: if we can't imagine hypothetical worlds, we're more likely to experiment invasive potentially-dangerous thoughts _in the real world_ instead of keeping it as a mental exercise.
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As for Pippa herself, having access to the Internet does not make someone informed, much the opposite _nowadays._
Around 15 years ago, I would agree that going online would increase someone's knowledge, today it's the opposite: the noise-to-signal ratio has drastically changed, to the point that people are much more likely to be misinformed about any subject online, than positively informed. Information warfare and scammers have completely invaded the online world, while virality algorithms are actively strengthening misinformation.
Even without someone actively trying to misguide people, misinformation wins: TikTok tips are trending up, despite being completely bonkers, because it triggers the curiosity of the ignorants, entertains the cautious people, while informed people calling such things out only reinforces the virality. The system itself rewards ignorance with popularity.
Will Pippa start believing in the misinformation though? Entirely possible, we've seen plenty of knowledgeable people fall prey to actual paranoia and pants-on-fire conspiracies, after going through a difficult moment in their life. It could happen to anyone.
I wouldn't worry too much about Pippa's actual mental balance yet: she still understands the difference between banters, shitposting, and actually going shizo - while her YT shorts and overall discussions about the vtubing industry show she can have a level-headed take on a subject if she needs to.
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PS: as for bad habits, specifically self-neglect, it is incredibly harder to handle your own, while it remains easy to point out what other people fail to do. I think christianity got an idiom about that, about specks and beams in someone's eyes.
Mostly because self-neglect nearly always come along psychological issues - you never see happy, purpose-led people with trashy rooms with rotten food - so to improve the situation you would need to also confront these psychological issues simultaneously.
There's also the mental gymnastic of balancing the need to do things orderly, with the mental angst of taking the lead in one's life.
Things like going out of bed, taking a shower every other days, changing clothes, eating food and drinking water. When someone is experiencing severe depression, these things are actually a real mental challenge, that exhaust a lot of their energy.
In such context, keeping your bedroom clean of dirty clothes or expired leftovers comes later down the list of priorities: even without depression, it's typical for people with any sort of fatigue to have a messy place.
If anything, I believe having a happier, more stable Pippa will do much more to her self-discipline and hygiene, than us trying to wrangle her into acknowledging that was some crazy unhealthy stuff - even if it needs to be said at least once.
@@TubeofDestiny Wow, that's a lot of text with very little proportional value.
Pippa: And I was like, aaaaah, maggot.
Maggot: And I was like, aaaaah, Pippa.
Pippa: That mold probably took off 20 years of my life.
Also Pippa: Pee bottles are so much worse than mold.
I've never had a gag reflex before watching messiah, 10/10
I wanna join Pippa's harem but if I don't get a hazmat suit or NBC gear I'd be afraid to visit or clean in her room.
I'm just getting into PhaseConnect through Pippa and was listening without watching while at work. Lumi sound so much like Watson Amelia.
Mold is a biohazard.
Biohazard 7 and 8 told me so.........
Are we SURE pipa isn't a skaven?
Mold is a biohazard 7
5:32 Aged pee used to be a key ingredient for bleaching clothes.
I hope we never have to regress to a time before washing machines.
It was used to degrease sheep wool cloth, as the natural grease/oil on the raw wool is needed as part of the weaving process.
Iffen your surname is Fuller, you are descended from people whose job was to stomp on wool cloth in vats of piss all day.
I think I like how Pippa says "crumbly" ar 6:34 more than I like her saying strawburry
"Crumb-bully"
I can’t believe how much random shit she has lying around waiting to be cleaned
Pippa needs to see Jordan Peterson, I heard he's very active about encouraging cleaning
Please tell me you got the rant where Pippa goes on about how people infiltrate other circles to destroy them
Sounds like Pippa has a twisted intestine...
"Mmnyeeeeeaaahhh" - 🤣😭 Thank Mr. Ashcorp, I am now a Pippa fan
The more I listen to Pippa the more anxious it makes me and now I'm debating whether or not to go full scorched earth.
To a Pipkin RE7 is from the villain's perspective
Weapons-grade Copippium
"This wasn't a yabcast"
I dunno, looks pretty yab to me...
You live like this, bun?
What a great clip to watch while having dinner. Thank you, keep then coming.
Ive been in some dire straits in life but not to where there were serious sanitation problems... when I lived in a trailer I had mice in the walls and ceiling anndd in the kitchen there was a wall where there was a clear separation between the wall and the floor, you could see sunlight through it
It was long, but it wasnt large enough to drop anything through
I was eating when I read that thumbnail and almost added onto that vomit drawer
Whoever's gone through chronic depression or still struggles with it in their life can relate to this unfortunately. I respect Pippa for openly talking about it and I hope she's doing much better now
IDK if she was depressed, more like just being a slob.
starting going to the gym buddy
Pippa's giving Asmongold a run for his money.
mold brain
Pippa talks about the mold
Lumi finally coming to terms with the idea a couple of minutes later
Pippa: let me introduce the vomit drawer
Kaneko "piss in jar" Lumi =VS= Pipkin "Black Mold" Pippa
Debate of the century, hands down.
...... Is she ok?
Obviously not.
I can fix her
No I don't think you can
@@紫の羊-c3g but maybe
Good luck
why would you want to though
She is 2d, you schizo.
Resident Evil franchise is called biohazard in Japan. Resident Evil 7 main enemies is Mold monsters. Biohazard 7 is about mold. Mold is a biohazard
Man, this is horrifying. This screams depression.
My god... As much as I do enjoy Pipps, she really is just the living embodiment of "Don't believe everything you hear online, son." Listening to her talk about mold vs. pee bottles was.... somethin.
Pipa: "Every day we rot, our flesh becomes more and more broken. It degrades, Lumi! The flesh is only temporary, but the love of a simp is eternal. That's why it's good that you have the LumiGumis. We degrade, Lumi Our bodies do not last. Our bodies, Lumi."
one of the signs of depression. apple juice bottles.
Pippa leaning back the whole time is makes it so much better
pippa calling the pee bottles disgusting... glass houses dude
Both the mold and pee bottles are really bad but the mold is definitely worse IF the pee bottles were sealed with caps.
She was breathing in mold and getting sick from it! Pippa that is definitely worse!
"That is so Pippa",now that'sa quote...
gosh my head hurts lmao, glad she is in better state
Grandfather Nurgle is very pleased with this one
You know sometimes I see a bit too much clutter or dust in my room and I think I’m too messy. This just made me realize that it could be much worse. I’ve never needed a “vomit drawer” at least and my biggest living space hygiene annoyance is dust. I hate dust.
gonna be absolutely insanse when pippa dies at 35
Peeing in bottles is absolutely horrendous, but the mold is friggin worse.
At an old job I had, we did mold mitigation a couple times and that was THE WORST. One time we were replacing the dry wall in a basement that was flooded. I was working with a respirator down there, and I don't know if it was because I would take the respirator off when I wasn't explicitly down there or if I had assembled it wrong or something, but after a week on that job I got a really bloody nose. I don't get bloody noses when things are normal, like how some people will get nosebleeds when the air is too dry.
Mold is awful and Pippa probably did actually lose 20 years off her life.
...she made me to clean my own house
I cant fix her bros
The pee story sounds like it happened to lumi personally
Nurgle loves her
Why wouldn't he, she's his favourite moldy daughter
Someone should tell Pippa that if you let things get moldy long enough, it seeps into the walls and the room itself becomes a moldfest. That room probably needs a pro to come in and purge it with tons of chemicals.
I used to think she needed a husband because she has a good personality. Now I think she needs a husband to keep her from dying.
she reminds me of Sam Hyde, I can't tell if she's serious or if she's just bullshitting me to freak me out.
Pee is gross, mold is like having a pet cactus.
Sasuga seiso idol Pippa-chan
Pippa needs to be careful of her copium intake, I wouldn't want her overdosing.
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pippa must have watched that episode of sliders where the professor makes homemade penicillin
Friendly reminder that this is a common sign of clinical depression
pippa is just a female asmongold… it’s uncanny
Dude the more clips I find of pipa the literal rabbit hole is revealing a very very.....interesting person. Complete and total autistic type blindess of terrifying proportions! Like how many things is she willing to yell about for other peoples sanitation choices, while she is literally talking about life threatening choices. She is like this about so many things it is so wild. She acts like she is better now but I doubt it. The way she actually leaned over to look for forks omg. Hilarious and scary. True degen gamer moment.
I'm so glad she's better I know how hard it is to clean a room like that but uh... Her defending black mold is insane.
My Pipper has really improved 😢
Lumi: Only shooting stars break the moOoOooOOlllld
Pippa: Wrong
is vtubing like some kind of ubi
I don't think I can fix her, bros.
"Mold can make good things."
"Mold makes Blue-Cheese."
Pick one.
Roquefort and Gorgonzola blue cheese are good, the rest are either overpriced or bad, and whoever thought to put blue cheese in ranch dressing bottles might be a Pipkin.
This is next level
Vomit drawer is very relatable though. I have a trash can in my room that used to be by my desk but is now by my bed due to having woken up multiple times and immediately vomited. Cleaning up a pool of vomit on the floor right next to your bed is not fun, do not recommend, have a vomit receptacle nearby at all times.
Why are you people just waking up to vomit?
@@kavky tummy no feel good :(
@@Silver-Rexy that not normal
@@kavky Sure it is, happens all the time to some people
The funniest part of this whole video is the ad for Clorox. I feel like that's targeted.
watch it and then think at every sentence.🤔.oO0(at least it can't get any worse)
Lumi ‘knows somebody’