i read this comment going into the episode and i kept waiting for her to start talking about anything even remotely related to this contextually, but the fact that she literally brought that up out of NOWHERE for NO REASON one minute before the episode ends is what really made this for me, i knew it was coming and i still did not expect it
lucy gray is a performer in the book- and just like the movie, she sings when she has something to say, and she always has something to say because she’s a strong and intelligent woman. she’s also seen as attractive by everyone, and coriolanus even specifies the first time he sees her that her makeup would be super popular in the capitol (if i’m not mistaken). since she’s covey she travels a lot and isn’t supposed to be “normal”. even if she was from 12, she’s always been a baddie and Rachel did a phenomenal job at embodying that.
I agree I think Lucy Grays character is so nuanced and since we do not get her thoughts or perspective her motives and strategies in the games are unknown. I think Rachel did a great job portraying that nuanced sort of confusing bit that Lucy Gray was playing. She was clearly using some type of performative strategy throughout and it is confusing and hard to understand and that was shown in the movie well I think.
@@rosinamacdonald3082 i totally agree! super great take. i think people should either read the book, or really analyze her character before they say she’s too pretty or like unrealistic, because the whole point of what makes her character unique is that she’s theatrical and performative in the best ways- and rachel nailed it
I disagree. Lucy Grey being conventional "attractive" is just boring. Why can't she be a great performer and make everyone feel like she is beautiful without looking like a super model. We can't have our main heroine look at least like a normal person though. We can't have a female character be just judged by their personality and character it's telling how shallow y'all are.
@@lunavioleta001Isn’t it a bit more shallow to expect a working class girl to be plain? Again, copy and pasting your opinion on multiple threads isn’t going to make it a better take.. lol
@@tessa3388 Who said anything about plain? See, you just told yourself. If they aren't conveniently attractive, then they are plain to you. Their personality and creativity means nothing. It's all about look, isn't it? And it isn't about how poor or rich they look, it's about people's perspectives and shallowness. Or are you saying that the only poor people that are beautiful are the ones that are skinny and look like models?
I'm not French at all but Brittany singing the French national anthem with whatever mic effect that was has HEALED my ✨️SOUL✨️, and I would like to thank our great leader for sharing that with us.
As a french person who was cooking onion soup while listening to this episode, you left me speechless when you started singing the french anthem. thank you, I didn't know I needed this, and it made my onion soup taste better.
Brittanys brain is something that should be studied, girl has all this art, pop-culture, music info, white man crushes and still finds time to learn the French national anthem. I am amazed.
As someone from the very rural area of Kentucky, I really appreciated Rachel's Appalachian accent and the inclusion of bluegrass/folk music. It may seem very cringe or weird to others, but it was a nice representation of our culture that usually is mocked or looked down on.
Rachel did a fantastic job playing Lucy Gray. Her “southern accent” seems off because it’s a mountain accent. District 12 is geographically in the Appalachian mountains.
This is one of the worst takes about Lucy Gray, I think you should read the book before you speak on it again. Rachel Zegler NAILED the role. She was always an independent thinker, she was part of the covey which don’t identify with the districts. She was always gritty and strong. She is like katniss where they both HAD to do what they had to do to survive, if you want to interpret that as “girlboss” I think you are very mistaken. They are not fighting for their life because they are women, but because they had to SURVIVE. Also, Lucy Gray’s whole thing was being a performer who was the “song bird” of the district, she and her covey would perform every night or so for the district. Rachel is absolutely stunning and she is the perfect person to have been Lucy Gray, her voice, her acting, and her aura nailed it.
As far as the girlbossification of Lucy gray, katniss was also heavily girlbossed in the movie vs the book. Book katniss is very much just a girl which I loved.
I feel like they generally did an alright job at showing how out of her element Katniss was. She didn’t want to do the commercials she was horrible at it and she was constantly complaining about how she didn’t want to be the mockingjay. I think they could have done a better job at translating that but overall Katniss was shown to be out of her element I’d say
I think they would've had to make the movies 5+ hours in order to capture Katniss like the books did. Which obviously they can't do. Also, on the outside I think they did well, its the interdialogue is what they missed. But like I said, they would not be able to make those films long enough.
@@proathiest I totally agree. I understand why they did it and I don’t think there’s a better alternative, just something that happens when translating media from book to movie. I’m not complaining, I loved the movies but movie katniss and book katniss are just different in my opinion 🤷🏻♀️ not hating, just observing
To me that was less how they showed Katniss at points and more how they portrayed Peeta, like they took away his snark and how he’d bite back to Katniss which makes him seem more quiet then they add in scenes like him struggling in training and getting laughed at, so Katniss has to tell him to throw that heavy weight thing… whereas that didn’t happen book wise since he didn’t struggle at training and excelled at hand to hand combat, I can’t tell what the decision was there but it made them especially in the first movie very unbalanced which seems like a girlbossed version of Katniss
oooooh the rent about the girlbossification and insipid homogenization of female characters and how it's actually more stereotyping than progressive was needed and so well worded thank you Mrs. President 🫡
Hey Brittany. My name is Maggie, and I am 20 years old. My dad died yesterday, and I wanted you to know (if you ever see this) that I find a lot of comfort in sitting down and listening to the chaotically joyful podcasts you create. It has meant more than you know, and I want to thank you for giving me this gift of laughter and a smile during this time. All my love from Green Bay, Wisconsin. ❤️ EDIT: Thank you all so incredibly much for your support and kindness. This is such a special community, and I am very proud to be apart of it. All of my love and gratitude.
I’m sorry for your loss. That’s very young to have to experience something so tragic. I too lost my dad but not until I was 35 and it was devastating and life felt like a simulation for a while. If you can take time off of work I highly recommend it. The longer the better. It’s going to be super tough for a while especially if you were close. Just know he’s still here with you. After my dad passed I could literally feel him with me for months. And very specific things would happen that I knew was him ‘talking’ to me. Therapy really helps. Even in group sessions (usually cheaper or you can even find for free sometimes) I still talk to my dad a few times a week and ask for help or guidance. Grieve comes in waves and will hit you sometimes when you least expect it. It doesn’t ‘get better’ necessarily but it just becomes the new normal and that’s ok. I found myself creating stronger bonds with extended members of my family. ❤
Stay strong bestie! Life is crazy and sad and weird but you can overcome every bad feeling! Stay focused on what you want to achieve in life, be kind and enjoy every moment with your friends or family. :)
I’m so sorry for your loss hun. I’m 24 and lost my dad last year, listening to Brittany really helped me too. Keep putting one foot in front of the other you’re stronger than you know ❤
It's really interesting the way that some people interpret the film adaptation and create their own understandings. Because Lucy Gray and Coryo fell in love in the book slowly but surely because of Lucy Gray's background in her family/culture dynamic but also it was her personality to be a little flirtatious. But also the book (obviously) carries a lot of background and creates so many answers that you never even knew you had questions to in the Hunger Games' original trilogy. I truly believe that Rachel Zegler did an absolutely fantastic job and accurately portrayed Lucy Gray. She was rebellious and as so many have put it (including Rachel) "she was a performer forced to fight".
just a small note ab Lucy Gray, her accent is specifically meant to be Appalachian! as someone who hears it all the time, i can say it wasn’t perfect but it was so great to hear in a film :)
Ditto! It felt off at moments, but I know from growing up in the rural Ozarks that there is really no such thing as a standard accent. When my family (who all were born and raised within an 50-mile radius of one another) get together, we sound like such a rainbow of dialects that an outsider would probably assume we come from all over the country. Lucy Gray being a traveler could have something to do with her inconsistent accent, too; maybe she’s just picked up bits and pieces from all the places she wandered through before she got stuck in District 12.
as a french, seeing my dear leader singing my national anthem, made me fucking emotional, thank you dearest leader for that intense and wonderful moment
I would like to add Ballad of songbirds and snakes is written from Snows perspective. And as we know he’s not a reliable narrator. I personally liked Rachel Zegler’s interpretation. You have to understand she’s a girl that has based her and her families survival on her charm and charisma. Using her gift to keep them fed. I think her personality was very well represented in the movie. I loved the representation of the Appalachian culture. I do think we needed to hear snows inner monologue to see just how calculated he is. I do agree there’s too much girl bossification in movies now where the average woman is not being properly represented.
okay so i’m a professional opera singer-brittany fucking brought me to tears with that stupid fucking french national anthem. so incredibly good. hidden contralto queen. she never ceases to amaze me with how talented she is i’m SO MANY WAYS ITS UNFAIR SHES BEAUTIFUL UGH
I am so starved of Brittney singing content I feel BLESSED getting the French National anthem at the end of this ep. Undoubtedly inspirational, Supreme Leader ❤
Read the book it's so so good and all the sympathy for coryo just evaporates. There was always always always a motive. Even in his real feelings for Lucy Gray it's all out of his twisted capital proud lens SO well written and coryo is so much more complex than in the movies
not reading the book and instead going based off of what your friend said, to then say that lucy gray is “too pretty” to then spending the entire video thirsting over tom blyth is definitely a choice. and it’s a fucking bad one
As a fan, it’s disheartening to see you romanticize so many men/male characters while criticizing female ones. Lucy Gray is NOT quiet in the book. If anything, she is louder. Rachel Ziegler is already getting a disproportionate amount of hate due to her gender. It’s sad to see you hop on that bandwagon. If you had read the book, you’d know that Rachel demonstrated a deep understanding of Lucy Gray’s character (both in her performance and in public statements). She was not “girl bossed” in the movie. She was not always strong. I think you misunderstood a lot of the movie to be completely honest.
She hasn’t read the book- so don’t judge her for something she didn’t know 😭. i definitely don’t agree w everything that she said but give her some slack man
@@jamiek1304 ok but she’s discussing the book. She shouldn’t be making statements about Rachel’s performance as the character in relation to the book without reading the book??
brittany, i mean this as parasocially as possible, you NEED to read the book. it is so so so good, and it adds so much fullness to the movie. my notes on snow are as follows: because i’ve read the book i disagree with your characterization of him, which i understand is mostly because the movies leave a lot to the imagination. snow is not in love with lucy gray. it is not a love story. he is in love with the IDEA of lucy gray. lucy gray is someone he wants to conquer and subdue. he was never going to end the hunger games, and he was never a young “innocent” boy. he has always been cunning, and he has always been manipulative. everything he does is a calculated attempt to put himself at an advantage. he, for the entire length of the story, is using her to get ahead. he is narcissistic and obsessive. the entire story builds toward his inevitable mental breakdown toward the end. on the flip side, lucy is using him as well. i wish more than anything they would have included more of her cunning in the movie. she is incredibly sharp and intelligent and does not really trust him fully. they, in a way, are mirrors of each other. both with an evil streak, in my opinion, but with different motives. i always thought that the title was very symbolic as well. at face value, lucy gray is a songbird, and snow is the snake. she sings, he’s cunning and manipulative. BUT, i think the opposite is also true. lucy gray is a snake, slippery and intelligent, and snow is a songbird, singing the song that people want to hear. in summary, snow would have done anything to win. he saw others as disposable, as beneath him. i think they softened him a great deal in the movie, and i wish they wouldn’t have.
ranting about how much u like the white guy main character because hes handsome and then going on about how the female lead was "too pretty" and distracting is Wild. not only is their appearance an important part of BOTH of their characters but you are very much showing your double standard here 🤷
I love your love for life. It's so beautiful to see you talking passionately about your obsessions how ever silly they may be. I think we should all strive to be fangirls for whatever we like
First of all, this is not fully aimed at Brittany , this also a food for thought and “goes off on a tangent” kind of thing. Girl you really need to read the book lol And if you are only going based off on the characters from the movie, Lucy Gray is a very well written female character. She is “girlbossified” due to her circumstances, she is someone who figures it out and tries to play the game. Also, we only see what Snow wants us to see, we only see Lucy Gray when Snow sees Lucy Gray. From the “get-go”, Snow told her in order for her to win over the Capitol, she needs to play the part and she did what she had to do for survival. What I find interesting is how much we hate female characters with “confidence” in themselves as individuals. If when we want to understand why they are so “confident”, why don’t y’all think critically? Like Lucy Gray is a performer, not only on stage but in real life. Everything she did she technically had a plan, but she couldn’t reveal herself because she wouldn’t succeed and be vulnerable to violence either by the capitol or Snow. Like cheating the games with the help from Snow after she “confess her desire for him” and later on escaping him in the woods without a note of being deceitful. It’s the subtle contexts in her behavior that tells you a lot about her character. Subtle is something like the Barbie movie lacked. One of the biggest flaws of the Barbie movie was that huge ass monologue of what it’s like to be a women (but hey I guess I’m not the audience.) I don’t need to be told what a women is like, I need it to be shown. I rather critically analyze characters, than them blatantly telling me who they are.
Hi, great comment, very interesting perspective! I just want to let you know that when you've said 'gecko', I think you might mean 'get-go'? Not sure if you're meme-ing or if it's a mistake but thought I'd say so you know for future reference lol
Girly's accent was supposed to be Appalachian and she actually did a good job. District 12 is Appalachia. Havent watched the whole thing but the clips I heard were good. We're a much different flavor of Southern.
I fell asleep halfway through this and woke up drenched in cold night sweats when she was halfway through the french national anthem. My sheets were literally soaked and I'm convinced her singing had something to do with this.
I woke up this morning and within an hour of being awake was crying. I’ve had a rough few days. I’m so grateful for this podcast & brittany’s content for constantly bringing me joy and comfort. I feel seen and heard. I actually fucking belly laugh, something I really need to do more. it feels like stepping into these for a moment I lose the constraints of expectation and am just allowed to fucking be. so. thanks for that brittany and broski nation
The Hunger Games will always have a special place in my heart. I remember a friend in 7th grade recommended it and it was the first book that got me into reading. I was so obsessed with that series at the time and I attribute my current reading obsessions to it.
being sick for a week and watching this on my medication made the ending feel like a fever dream, britney singing the french national anthem will forever be engraved in my brain.
breaking: southern woman who has been well fed all her life angry that appalachian woman who is incredibly poor and cannot afford food is "too thin" and can't do a "southern" accent
Me turning Brittany up as I brushed my teeth to hear her sing the French national anthem at the end of an episode mostly discussing dystopian stories where people have to revolt against oppression really did a switch in my brain, I think? My French patriotism is at an all time high from Ohio?? Keep me AWAY from the cults???!
Through my early pregnancy journey, the broski report has been my safe space when I’ve been feeling sick, and usually keeps my mind off of my nausea. Unfortunately today, I still had it playing when I ran to throw up, and mid-puke heard the part about the vomit drinks they take in the capital to eat more food. And I started crying as I continued to throw up😂😂😂
you singing the french national anthem SENT ME dude i came straight from audio because i was so gagged after that performance that i had to see it live
Miss President, I would absolutely love an entire segment with you just talking about The Hunger Games. I LOVE IT, I'd love to listen and understand your thoughts on the franchise, beyond what you already compared to the world we're living in today.
I think they have so much room to play with for more movies. Like they can totally make two movies just showing us the first two quarter quells - Haymitch won the second QQ and that would be so interesting to watch.
Brittany: *tries to do a Scottish accent* "I don't know how to do Scottish" Also Brittany: *says the exact same thing, in the exact same accent but louder*
i need everyone who wants to make an analysis video on hunger games and especially an analysis of the ballad of songbirds and snakes to actually read the books and not just watch the movie. like i'm not even saying this to be an asshole, but my god you missed a lot of what's actually going on in the book 😭
Brittany, you are beautiful and I admire your strength, wisdom, and humor. You are everything I strive to be as a woman. I am so thankful you have a voice in the media. I am proud to be apart of the broski nation.
I feel like whoever tried to explain the prequel book to you did you a disservice. There is so much more context that you need for the characters to understand why Lucy Gray is the way she is and the same for Coriolanus. Also reading Corio’s inner dialogue is key to the plot!
@MickeySticky_teasin_me idk who is "yall" mickey, i'm cuffed up with a sweet + funny metalhead and i don't find any of the men she mentioned attractive
I love how the episodes always start off as “omg he’s so hot LOOK AT THIS PICTURE OF HIM” and devolves into a rant about the political and economic state of todays society. Every time. Without fail, and I love her for that
this just reminds me of that tweet “you women will allow men to be something they would never allow you to be: ugly & loved” EDIT: PLEASE READ THE BOOK! She is NOT quiet. Her whole character is beautiful and alluring and talented. that’s why Coryo tries to gain her trust so that she will be able to win him the Plinth Prize
rachel's performance was greater than i even expected. i don't understand why brittany thinks she can complain about rachel's portrayal of lucy gray when brittany didn't even read the book. her (appalachian, not southern) accent was accurate too.
YES! when she said he was considering abolishing the games I laughed. He never thought of that, just thought of winning the money to rebuild his family and his personal success.
we really need a “yell cam” so every time she turns away from the mic to scream into the void, we can get a face cam there and we dan truly finally feel shouted at directly by brittany broski
Did we all get hit w the plague or something? I'm also laying in my death bed rn and as soon as I started listening to this podcast, I felt the illness leaving through my pores lmaooo
I need her to read the book and react to that. I think it shows just how psychotic Snow was. I don’t he ever truly loved Lucy Gray - he wanted to own her and control her.
I need you to read the book so bad. You will not feel any sympathy for Snow at all. He was horrid from the very first page all the way through. The movie you just couldn’t hear his thoughts
Yup there were so many moments where if you read the book you knew he was thinking some nasty vile shit when all it was on screen was like a flicker of thought on his face
Agree! In the book you could tell he was already a bad person and the rest of the story just solidified his beliefs. The movie paints him as a young innocent boy who gets turned bad through circumstances
I live in France and Brittany’s rendition of the Marseillaise is probably the most emotional rendition of it I’ve ever heard lmao. Just enough pathos and ferociousness.
The thing I find frustrating about this video is that you have no problem with how attractive Tom Blyth is in regards to his performance of Coriolanus Snow. But you have a problem with Lucy Gray being pretty. You said you think she is too beautiful considering she is part of the working class. Lucy Gray literally survived because of her beauty, it even says so in one of her songs “you went to the dogs and I lived by my charms.” I encourage you to read the book because I believe it would change your opinion about Coriolanus Snow and see how he is so demented even before his “switch”.
I think what's being lost in translation between Brittany and the comment section is that whoever explained the book to her did a shit job of it and she's missing so much context that would completely change her opinion. She isn't being malicious and she isn't jealous, she's just been misinformed about the plot
@@deltafournumbers I'm sorry but wtf is the point in doing this if you've never seen the movie or read the book. It's just another pointless podcast episode.
@@deltafournumbersthen she shouldn't have done a video about it. what insight do you have to talk on something you don't know? if anything that makes the criticism even more valid
There is also safety and security in fangirling… the part of us that acknowledges it will never happen feels safe; we don’t have to be vulnerable and we never have to get hurt.
I swear, week after week, Brittany perfectly articulates *exact* conversations I have with my friends and coworkers and *they* all look like I'm crazy. And then I come to this comment section, and I'm reassured that I'm not alone
Her perspective of Lucy Gray was so WRONG. Lucy is never described as quiet in the books. They also did not bossify her at all. In fact they made her more passive in the movie because in the book she actively kills someone with a snake in hand to hand combat.
I just feel like she got misled by her friend who read the book. Lucy Gray in the books is way WAAAAY louder and energetic and opinionated, mothered so hard. Rachel Zegler is amazing but obviously, she was toned down in the movie because idk how they'd fit so much of that personality in less than three hours of a movie that's focused on another character. But Lucy Gray is definitely not "girlbossing" in both the books and the movie and if anything, she was TONED DOWN in the movie. Her character's personality is also very much complex as well, something that I think Rachel Zegler portrayed so well even with only limited appearances. She's smart, she's cunning, sassy, sarcastic, very strong-willed and knows what she wants. But she's also very caring and soft and sentimental where she gives and does so much for her family and she isn't afraid to show that softness and vulnerability to the people she trusts and also not ashamed to ask help. She's such a transparent and kind girl, just everything. I hope Brittany reads the book.
I think that Disney in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s did a great job of differentiating princesses. Ariel, Jasmine, Belle, Meg, Mulan, etc are all SO unique personality wise.
Yes! They not only look and act different from each other- they also fit into their stories so seamlessly (bc they’re written as fully developed human beings). There’s such a huge difference when you compare those ‘Disney princesses’ to the main characters Disney is coming up with today.
calling lucy gray a girlboss is kind of wild to me when she literally spent the whole games running and hiding and only survived because Snow cheated like 3 different times lmao. Just because she didn't run after Snow like a puppy and she stood up for herself doesn't make her a girl boss.
here are my notes: 1. Rachel Zegler gave Lucy Gray an Appalachian accent so that’s why it sounds like a southern accent. 2. Lucy Gray was beautiful but she was supposed to be different from the boring and grey people in District 12 since she only got stuck there when she was traveling for music. She technically was not from that district. 3. I would love another prequel movie but I want to see another games. I would love to see Haymitch’s games when he won. He was the winner of the 50th Hunger Games (2nd Quarter Quell), and won against twice as many people since they reaped two pairs of men and women that year. I just know those games were INSANE and it can show us how Haymitch won and how he got to his present day- alcoholic self that we know. That’s the end of my notes. :) edit: I am not contradicting or disagreeing with anything Brittney said these are just my opinions on the topic. I love my leader of Broski Nation!
i feel like there are season long arcs and monster of the week arcs. like hozier is high rn since the new album but someone like harry had a long arc earlier this year. i think pedro had an arc but robert pattison was a man of the week
Reading the book now and Lucy Gray is not quiet or stoic like your friend said lol she’s very much a charismatic cheeky if not obnoxious character. The Rachel Zegler hate is so disappointing. She’s a beautiful woman who is killing it right now, and who’s hating???? WOMEN
As someone who’s written essays on the book it makes my blood legitimately boil when people who haven’t read it say rachel turned her into a girlboss 😭
Right???? I felt she kinda was in the book as well. I actually thought she was more quirky in the books. Also looking up the accent she was doing she did a pretty good job! Also very thin and beautiful? Isn't that basically how she's described? 😫 She's starving and snow is like obsessed with her
Ngl I disagreed with like everything Brittany said about Lucy gray and Rachel zegler acting. First of all it’s not a “bad” Southern accent it’s an Appalachian accent 😭 like would you be saying she has a “gen z” face if she was the hot white man of the week? Anyways
@@brooke4608 1) Completely agree with the accent thing. It really annoys me when people say that. 2) The whole "white boy of the week" thing was funny at first, but like... why is she ONLY talking about white men... like exclusively…?
I hear a lot of people say that rachel zeglers “southern accent” was really bad but i think that it was definitely supposed to be an Appalachian accent. I’m front Pennsylvania near the poconos and the further into the mountains you go the more people sound like her so it was really nice to see that culture be portrayed on screen for once and I think she did a really good job on the accent it sounds really accurate at least for where i am
Just to throw a little info, Lucy Gray’s accent is an Appalachian accent. The music isn’t country either, it’s Appalachian folk. It was great to have some representation!
i commented ab this too!! growing up around Appalachian culture was so fun, but people everywhere talk down on the accent. so cool to see it positively represented!!
I'm polish, never have been in the US and yet I could hear that's Appalachian accent🙊 also she was really good Lucy Gray. Lucy was strong and independent proud of her chosen family and yet using her beauty and voice when needed. Corio was a psycho from the begining end never loved her like ppl love. He had such a disgusting thoughs about her and everyone else. He was cute I get it 🙊 but he was the same guy from the first words about his family till the end ☠️ just have more power
i was NOT expecting to see Brittany singing the french anthem and it was so out of the blue that i couldn't stop laughing but hey that's the magic of the Broski Report. thank you leader for one more much needed counsel to enlighten the Broski nation, we appreciate your efforts!!!
thank god rachel zegler actually read the book and didn’t make character decisions based off of tiktok discourse. also, how the hell does she have gen z face? she hasn’t had any plastic surgery. she doesn’t have veneers. for god sakes it’s not like she looks like kylie jenner… she’s just a gorgeous girl.
it just means she has a young face. and wth do you thing gen z looks like because it isn't that. she never insinuated that it was because she had something done to alter her appearance so I don't know where you got that idea from.
The Lucy gray take was not it😭 The argument of her ‘looking to good’ is weird cause like poor people can be hot too? And she’s underfed so of course she’s gonna be scrawny. Plus its set in the future so having too modern of a face (tho this is such a real thing) is smth i think could be excused for this concept.
Me personally, I took it to mean the makeup and everything wasn’t realistic. She looked too beautiful in the sense that you can kinda tell she has makeup on all through the movie, which doesn’t make sense for a district 12 person. But idk what should’ve been different in that way, it’s a movie, the main actress who’s meant to be beautiful is definitely gonna have makeup on 😭
@@Kingbimmylike others have explained that take is still not it if you don’t know the book, because she’s supposed to be wearing makeup. When Snow first sees her at the reaping she actually even had red lipstick and the makeup seems more heavy and he’s confused where a district girl from 12 would get makeup from, and Lucy Gray is very focused on her appearance
Rachel Zegler is actually really suited for Lucy Gray because her beauty is a part of the character, she is a performer and uses her talent and beauty to her advantage
YES how they explained his reaction in the book when she sang the song in her final interview... completely different vibes in the movie @@wlweloise7270
Girl… don’t speak on the book if you haven’t read it 😭💀 Your take on Lucy Gray was not it ALSO: you’re criticizing Lucy/Rachel for being “too pretty” and then go on a rant about how hot Snow/Tom is??? Come on now 😬
I want a book following tigress - that way it’s a new story but we get to see snow from her perspective and how his image changes in her mind. We could learn more about the fashion industry in the Capitol and how she became a stylist and then her decent into heavy plastic surgery. Her story would be so interesting.
I usually agree with Brittany's opinions, but in this case I would recommend reading the book and then going back and re-watching the movie (a recommendation I make to everyone since its one of the best prequels I've ever read). I actually think Lucy Gray was portrayed extremely well in the film. The whole book is from Coriolanus's perspective, so she's a bit hard to pin down in the books beyond his interpretation of her. But Rachel Zegler brings the charm and grit that the character would need for the sequence of events to make sense. Her personality also makes sense given her background as a performer. I really don't think she's a girl boss in the same way that Katniss isn't either; they are both resilient survivors forced into an awful situation. I don't think Lucy Gray is ever described as shy in the books, maybe scared (she is, after all, about to go into the hunger games). Her accent is also Appalachian, which is what most/all of District 12 would sound like if the films were book accurate due to the region specificities. Overall, these books and movies are more allegories than anything else, and the point is to critique society, especially the entertainment industry.
Completely agree! I wouldn’t say Lucy Gray is shy at all, she loves to sing and perform. And I don’t see her as a “girl boss” either just because she won the games.
Yes you put it so well!! I couldn’t help but keep saying “read the book read the book!” while she was saying Lucy Gray was shy/cunning. Like Rachel did amazing giving Lucy Gray so much more depth
yes I also agree with this! I would really like her to read the book as some of her opinions on the movie aren’t quite accurate. She said something about “You can tell Snow is try to fight the corruption of the capitol but you see is slow decent into madness towards the end” but if you’ve read the book you know he’s a horrible villain from the START lol
It is so annoying that everyone is commenting on Brittany's bad take on the casting of Lucy Gray when 10 min later she gives a beautiful monolog of the dystopian feel of our society and the parallels that Hungergames has to the possible future we are barreling toward.
Love you Brittany but your take on TBOSAS is just so so wrong. I think you'd change it if you read the book. Rachel played Lucy very well, and she was some much needed APPALACHIAN representation. I think she nailed the accent. District 12 is set in appalachia also the double standard about snow being attractive but with Lucy it's a problem.... No hate love u but I rly think that this was the wrong take. Definitely interesting to see how only movie watchers interpreted the characters. Also, Lucy gray was the opposite of quiet. She was a performer. She knew exactly what she was doing the whole time to win the crowds to her advantage. She is cunning, smart, and outgoing. And that's not a problem.
Brit, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of Coriolanus. He never loved Lucy. He finds her embarassing to him, inappropriate, to him she is just a tool to climb the social ladder and then a toy to play with out of spite. He wants to own her and puppet her. The MOMENT she stops being of any use to him and becomes a potential loose thread he HUNTS HER DOWN, the same way he kills Seanus. He is a narcissist with zero potential to love. You NEED to read the book because it's harder to understand how COLD he is from the movie.
Brittany ending the episode by singing the ENTIRE French National Anthem is sending me
Me too 😭
And she sounded so good
i read this comment going into the episode and i kept waiting for her to start talking about anything even remotely related to this contextually, but the fact that she literally brought that up out of NOWHERE for NO REASON one minute before the episode ends is what really made this for me, i knew it was coming and i still did not expect it
@@XxPinkFunhousexX NO GENIUELY still has me in chokehold
She’s rounding white men up like the draft
fr
BARS
CACKLING
💀💀💀
this is so good
lucy gray is a performer in the book- and just like the movie, she sings when she has something to say, and she always has something to say because she’s a strong and intelligent woman. she’s also seen as attractive by everyone, and coriolanus even specifies the first time he sees her that her makeup would be super popular in the capitol (if i’m not mistaken). since she’s covey she travels a lot and isn’t supposed to be “normal”. even if she was from 12, she’s always been a baddie and Rachel did a phenomenal job at embodying that.
I agree I think Lucy Grays character is so nuanced and since we do not get her thoughts or perspective her motives and strategies in the games are unknown. I think Rachel did a great job portraying that nuanced sort of confusing bit that Lucy Gray was playing. She was clearly using some type of performative strategy throughout and it is confusing and hard to understand and that was shown in the movie well I think.
@@rosinamacdonald3082 i totally agree! super great take. i think people should either read the book, or really analyze her character before they say she’s too pretty or like unrealistic, because the whole point of what makes her character unique is that she’s theatrical and performative in the best ways- and rachel nailed it
I disagree.
Lucy Grey being conventional "attractive" is just boring. Why can't she be a great performer and make everyone feel like she is beautiful without looking like a super model. We can't have our main heroine look at least like a normal person though. We can't have a female character be just judged by their personality and character it's telling how shallow y'all are.
@@lunavioleta001Isn’t it a bit more shallow to expect a working class girl to be plain? Again, copy and pasting your opinion on multiple threads isn’t going to make it a better take.. lol
@@tessa3388 Who said anything about plain? See, you just told yourself. If they aren't conveniently attractive, then they are plain to you. Their personality and creativity means nothing. It's all about look, isn't it?
And it isn't about how poor or rich they look, it's about people's perspectives and shallowness. Or are you saying that the only poor people that are beautiful are the ones that are skinny and look like models?
The way she casually starts singing the French national anthem so well at the end oh my god
fr it was SO GOOD
i thought it was an audio clip of someone else at first until the little giggle and I was like "whoa"
even the pronunciation, like WHAT
Me, a 31 year-old fully-grown woman, sat ready to listen to big sister Brittany scream at me about her white-man-of-the-week obsession
Same but I’m 33 🤣
Same but I’m 37 😅
Same, but I'm 44yo. Gigglesnort
same but i'm 33!
same but i’m 17 with a mortgage and three kids
I'm not French at all but Brittany singing the French national anthem with whatever mic effect that was has HEALED my ✨️SOUL✨️, and I would like to thank our great leader for sharing that with us.
NO AS A FRENCH PERSON IT WAD SO GOOD I can barely remember the lyrics 😂😂😂 it was so good
But like why was is she so good lmao
I was taking a nap with this video in the bg and the French national anthem WOKE ME TF UP! THAT WAS GLORIOUS!
fr wtf now i like the french
I literally listened to it 10 times I’m like obsessed for some reason
As a french person who was cooking onion soup while listening to this episode, you left me speechless when you started singing the french anthem. thank you, I didn't know I needed this, and it made my onion soup taste better.
Brittanys brain is something that should be studied, girl has all this art, pop-culture, music info, white man crushes and still finds time to learn the French national anthem. I am amazed.
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no fr i don’t think people really take the time to realize, home girl is SMART. like girl could be a professor fr
Your take is exceptional. Exceptionally strange and off-putting.
She's so wise
GET A GRIP BRITTANY ITS A WHITE MAN WITH SCURVY
This comment is taking me out
take this back . Now.
Bruh fr. I love her sm, she’s my mother Mary all day long, but her running list of white men is absolutely despicable 😭😭😭
theyre literally always british too i just wanna be like babes trust me i live in england and ive Peeped the Horrors
As someone from the very rural area of Kentucky, I really appreciated Rachel's Appalachian accent and the inclusion of bluegrass/folk music. It may seem very cringe or weird to others, but it was a nice representation of our culture that usually is mocked or looked down on.
was her accent accurate at all?
@@Me-vn3gzI thought it was and Katniss was supposed to have the same accent Jennifer Lawrence just didn’t use it
yes!!! she had an appalachian accent it was sooo good
it was annoying how sometimes she spoke with the accent and sometimes she dropped it tho 😭😭
She sounded pretty similar to how the people where I live in Eastern Kentucky speak. Of course it wasn't perfect, but it was really good
Rachel did a fantastic job playing Lucy Gray. Her “southern accent” seems off because it’s a mountain accent. District 12 is geographically in the Appalachian mountains.
This is one of the worst takes about Lucy Gray, I think you should read the book before you speak on it again. Rachel Zegler NAILED the role. She was always an independent thinker, she was part of the covey which don’t identify with the districts. She was always gritty and strong. She is like katniss where they both HAD to do what they had to do to survive, if you want to interpret that as “girlboss” I think you are very mistaken. They are not fighting for their life because they are women, but because they had to SURVIVE. Also, Lucy Gray’s whole thing was being a performer who was the “song bird” of the district, she and her covey would perform every night or so for the district. Rachel is absolutely stunning and she is the perfect person to have been Lucy Gray, her voice, her acting, and her aura nailed it.
FACTS!!
Whoever explained the books to her did a horrible job, which makes her take on it sound jealous. I think she definitely needs to read the books
Petition for Brittany to sing a different national anthem at the end of every episode!
YES
In French
As far as the girlbossification of Lucy gray, katniss was also heavily girlbossed in the movie vs the book. Book katniss is very much just a girl which I loved.
I feel like they generally did an alright job at showing how out of her element Katniss was. She didn’t want to do the commercials she was horrible at it and she was constantly complaining about how she didn’t want to be the mockingjay. I think they could have done a better job at translating that but overall Katniss was shown to be out of her element I’d say
I think they would've had to make the movies 5+ hours in order to capture Katniss like the books did. Which obviously they can't do. Also, on the outside I think they did well, its the interdialogue is what they missed. But like I said, they would not be able to make those films long enough.
@@proathiest I totally agree. I understand why they did it and I don’t think there’s a better alternative, just something that happens when translating media from book to movie. I’m not complaining, I loved the movies but movie katniss and book katniss are just different in my opinion 🤷🏻♀️ not hating, just observing
To me that was less how they showed Katniss at points and more how they portrayed Peeta, like they took away his snark and how he’d bite back to Katniss which makes him seem more quiet then they add in scenes like him struggling in training and getting laughed at, so Katniss has to tell him to throw that heavy weight thing… whereas that didn’t happen book wise since he didn’t struggle at training and excelled at hand to hand combat, I can’t tell what the decision was there but it made them especially in the first movie very unbalanced which seems like a girlbossed version of Katniss
oooooh the rent about the girlbossification and insipid homogenization of female characters and how it's actually more stereotyping than progressive was needed and so well worded thank you Mrs. President 🫡
Amen 🫡
Fanfiction where broski is president?!❤
@@cremeuxkraft9019 that's real life wdym?
Hey Brittany. My name is Maggie, and I am 20 years old. My dad died yesterday, and I wanted you to know (if you ever see this) that I find a lot of comfort in sitting down and listening to the chaotically joyful podcasts you create. It has meant more than you know, and I want to thank you for giving me this gift of laughter and a smile during this time. All my love from Green Bay, Wisconsin. ❤️
EDIT: Thank you all so incredibly much for your support and kindness. This is such a special community, and I am very proud to be apart of it. All of my love and gratitude.
So sorry for your loss! You seem so sweet and I’m sure your dad was such a great man. Please take care
I’m sorry for your loss. That’s very young to have to experience something so tragic. I too lost my dad but not until I was 35 and it was devastating and life felt like a simulation for a while.
If you can take time off of work I highly recommend it. The longer the better. It’s going to be super tough for a while especially if you were close.
Just know he’s still here with you. After my dad passed I could literally feel him with me for months. And very specific things would happen that I knew was him ‘talking’ to me.
Therapy really helps. Even in group sessions (usually cheaper or you can even find for free sometimes)
I still talk to my dad a few times a week and ask for help or guidance.
Grieve comes in waves and will hit you sometimes when you least expect it.
It doesn’t ‘get better’ necessarily but it just becomes the new normal and that’s ok. I found myself creating stronger bonds with extended members of my family.
❤
Stay strong bestie! Life is crazy and sad and weird but you can overcome every bad feeling! Stay focused on what you want to achieve in life, be kind and enjoy every moment with your friends or family. :)
I’m so sorry for your loss hun. I’m 24 and lost my dad last year, listening to Brittany really helped me too. Keep putting one foot in front of the other you’re stronger than you know ❤
Sending you love Maggie. ❤ So sorry for your loss.
It's really interesting the way that some people interpret the film adaptation and create their own understandings. Because Lucy Gray and Coryo fell in love in the book slowly but surely because of Lucy Gray's background in her family/culture dynamic but also it was her personality to be a little flirtatious. But also the book (obviously) carries a lot of background and creates so many answers that you never even knew you had questions to in the Hunger Games' original trilogy. I truly believe that Rachel Zegler did an absolutely fantastic job and accurately portrayed Lucy Gray. She was rebellious and as so many have put it (including Rachel) "she was a performer forced to fight".
You didn't seem to understand the book either, lol. Coryo never truly loved her.
just a small note ab Lucy Gray, her accent is specifically meant to be Appalachian! as someone who hears it all the time, i can say it wasn’t perfect but it was so great to hear in a film :)
Ditto! It felt off at moments, but I know from growing up in the rural Ozarks that there is really no such thing as a standard accent. When my family (who all were born and raised within an 50-mile radius of one another) get together, we sound like such a rainbow of dialects that an outsider would probably assume we come from all over the country. Lucy Gray being a traveler could have something to do with her inconsistent accent, too; maybe she’s just picked up bits and pieces from all the places she wandered through before she got stuck in District 12.
as a french, seeing my dear leader singing my national anthem, made me fucking emotional, thank you dearest leader for that intense and wonderful moment
I would like to add Ballad of songbirds and snakes is written from Snows perspective. And as we know he’s not a reliable narrator. I personally liked Rachel Zegler’s interpretation. You have to understand she’s a girl that has based her and her families survival on her charm and charisma. Using her gift to keep them fed. I think her personality was very well represented in the movie. I loved the representation of the Appalachian culture. I do think we needed to hear snows inner monologue to see just how calculated he is. I do agree there’s too much girl bossification in movies now where the average woman is not being properly represented.
okay so i’m a professional opera singer-brittany fucking brought me to tears with that stupid fucking french national anthem. so incredibly good. hidden contralto queen. she never ceases to amaze me with how talented she is i’m SO MANY WAYS ITS UNFAIR SHES BEAUTIFUL UGH
I am so starved of Brittney singing content I feel BLESSED getting the French National anthem at the end of this ep.
Undoubtedly inspirational, Supreme Leader ❤
It was so good too!
HOW DID SHE HIT THAT LOW NOTE
Me being French…didn’t expect this podcast to make me stand up and get so patriotic at the end 🤣🤣🤣
Read the book it's so so good and all the sympathy for coryo just evaporates. There was always always always a motive. Even in his real feelings for Lucy Gray it's all out of his twisted capital proud lens SO well written and coryo is so much more complex than in the movies
not reading the book and instead going based off of what your friend said, to then say that lucy gray is “too pretty” to then spending the entire video thirsting over tom blyth is definitely a choice. and it’s a fucking bad one
Shes not a movie critic shes just a baddie leave her alone.
@@Cowboybooti3 everyone has bad opinions and hers of lucy gray were definitely bad
As a fan, it’s disheartening to see you romanticize so many men/male characters while criticizing female ones. Lucy Gray is NOT quiet in the book. If anything, she is louder. Rachel Ziegler is already getting a disproportionate amount of hate due to her gender. It’s sad to see you hop on that bandwagon. If you had read the book, you’d know that Rachel demonstrated a deep understanding of Lucy Gray’s character (both in her performance and in public statements). She was not “girl bossed” in the movie. She was not always strong. I think you misunderstood a lot of the movie to be completely honest.
yess!!! i was getting so annoyed listening to her in this ep, i’m so glad someone else thought so
!!!!!!! this
She hasn’t read the book- so don’t judge her for something she didn’t know 😭. i definitely don’t agree w everything that she said but give her some slack man
@@jamiek1304 ok but she’s discussing the book. She shouldn’t be making statements about Rachel’s performance as the character in relation to the book without reading the book??
@@Erin-vn6iiexactly tho u right .
brittany, i mean this as parasocially as possible, you NEED to read the book. it is so so so good, and it adds so much fullness to the movie.
my notes on snow are as follows: because i’ve read the book i disagree with your characterization of him, which i understand is mostly because the movies leave a lot to the imagination. snow is not in love with lucy gray. it is not a love story. he is in love with the IDEA of lucy gray. lucy gray is someone he wants to conquer and subdue. he was never going to end the hunger games, and he was never a young “innocent” boy. he has always been cunning, and he has always been manipulative. everything he does is a calculated attempt to put himself at an advantage. he, for the entire length of the story, is using her to get ahead. he is narcissistic and obsessive. the entire story builds toward his inevitable mental breakdown toward the end. on the flip side, lucy is using him as well. i wish more than anything they would have included more of her cunning in the movie. she is incredibly sharp and intelligent and does not really trust him fully. they, in a way, are mirrors of each other. both with an evil streak, in my opinion, but with different motives. i always thought that the title was very symbolic as well. at face value, lucy gray is a songbird, and snow is the snake. she sings, he’s cunning and manipulative. BUT, i think the opposite is also true. lucy gray is a snake, slippery and intelligent, and snow is a songbird, singing the song that people want to hear.
in summary, snow would have done anything to win. he saw others as disposable, as beneath him. i think they softened him a great deal in the movie, and i wish they wouldn’t have.
ranting about how much u like the white guy main character because hes handsome and then going on about how the female lead was "too pretty" and distracting is Wild. not only is their appearance an important part of BOTH of their characters but you are very much showing your double standard here 🤷
okay but brittany giving 2000’s mean girl vibes with this hair and makeup. in like the hottest way possible. we love her.
I love your love for life. It's so beautiful to see you talking passionately about your obsessions how ever silly they may be. I think we should all strive to be fangirls for whatever we like
First of all, this is not fully aimed at Brittany , this also a food for thought and “goes off on a tangent” kind of thing.
Girl you really need to read the book lol
And if you are only going based off on the characters from the movie, Lucy Gray is a very well written female character. She is “girlbossified” due to her circumstances, she is someone who figures it out and tries to play the game. Also, we only see what Snow wants us to see, we only see Lucy Gray when Snow sees Lucy Gray. From the “get-go”, Snow told her in order for her to win over the Capitol, she needs to play the part and she did what she had to do for survival.
What I find interesting is how much we hate female characters with “confidence” in themselves as individuals. If when we want to understand why they are so “confident”, why don’t y’all think critically?
Like Lucy Gray is a performer, not only on stage but in real life. Everything she did she technically had a plan, but she couldn’t reveal herself because she wouldn’t succeed and be vulnerable to violence either by the capitol or Snow. Like cheating the games with the help from Snow after she “confess her desire for him” and later on escaping him in the woods without a note of being deceitful.
It’s the subtle contexts in her behavior that tells you a lot about her character.
Subtle is something like the Barbie movie lacked. One of the biggest flaws of the Barbie movie was that huge ass monologue of what it’s like to be a women (but hey I guess I’m not the audience.) I don’t need to be told what a women is like, I need it to be shown.
I rather critically analyze characters, than them blatantly telling me who they are.
Hi, great comment, very interesting perspective! I just want to let you know that when you've said 'gecko', I think you might mean 'get-go'? Not sure if you're meme-ing or if it's a mistake but thought I'd say so you know for future reference lol
@@katie_bruh lol English is not my first language so sometimes I type how it sounds, thanks!!!
I haven't seen the movie yet but Lucy definitely has girlboss elements in the book.
yup her portrayal was pretty accurate to the book (accent very questionable tho)
Girly's accent was supposed to be Appalachian and she actually did a good job. District 12 is Appalachia. Havent watched the whole thing but the clips I heard were good. We're a much different flavor of Southern.
I fell asleep halfway through this and woke up drenched in cold night sweats when she was halfway through the french national anthem. My sheets were literally soaked and I'm convinced her singing had something to do with this.
I woke up this morning and within an hour of being awake was crying. I’ve had a rough few days. I’m so grateful for this podcast & brittany’s content for constantly bringing me joy and comfort. I feel seen and heard. I actually fucking belly laugh, something I really need to do more. it feels like stepping into these for a moment I lose the constraints of expectation and am just allowed to fucking be. so. thanks for that brittany and broski nation
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The Hunger Games will always have a special place in my heart. I remember a friend in 7th grade recommended it and it was the first book that got me into reading. I was so obsessed with that series at the time and I attribute my current reading obsessions to it.
And let me just say this: ToG is one of my current book obsessions. Finished KoA in October
ur take on Lucy Gray literally makes no sense?? 😭
being sick for a week and watching this on my medication made the ending feel like a fever dream, britney singing the french national anthem will forever be engraved in my brain.
16:16 but also, her charm and beauty was an extreme part of her character as part of the covey and an outsider in 12
51:35 As a french subscriber, this moment touch my soul. I want this at every end of each episode from now on 😂!
breaking: southern woman who has been well fed all her life angry that appalachian woman who is incredibly poor and cannot afford food is "too thin" and can't do a "southern" accent
And Brittany isn’t even from anywhere near Appalachia so she can’t even speak on it she’s just blindly saying whatever and ppl are eating it up like 💀
Brittany screaming away from the microphone always gets me😭😂
Girl Lucy Gray has an Appalachian accent not a bad southern accent 💀
Her dissertation about being a fangirl…I’ve never felt more understood
brittany singing the french anthem is not something i knew i needed until now 😂
Me turning Brittany up as I brushed my teeth to hear her sing the French national anthem at the end of an episode mostly discussing dystopian stories where people have to revolt against oppression really did a switch in my brain, I think? My French patriotism is at an all time high from Ohio?? Keep me AWAY from the cults???!
Through my early pregnancy journey, the broski report has been my safe space when I’ve been feeling sick, and usually keeps my mind off of my nausea. Unfortunately today, I still had it playing when I ran to throw up, and mid-puke heard the part about the vomit drinks they take in the capital to eat more food. And I started crying as I continued to throw up😂😂😂
these rachel zegler takes are not it... i think it may be time to re-evaluate some internalized misogyny
definitely 😭😭
you singing the french national anthem SENT ME dude i came straight from audio because i was so gagged after that performance that i had to see it live
Hating on lucy gray but thirsting on a white man🥴
Miss President, I would absolutely love an entire segment with you just talking about The Hunger Games. I LOVE IT, I'd love to listen and understand your thoughts on the franchise, beyond what you already compared to the world we're living in today.
the french national anthem was very much giving that one episode of spongebob
We are witnessing the fall of brittany
I’ve been waiting for this ep. I think when we all saw Tom Blythe we all knew immediately to report to our lord and ruler Brittany
Brittany singing the french national anthem really tied this episode together
not you saying that she was too pretty to interpret a working class person as if working class people are ugly? tf
I think they have so much room to play with for more movies. Like they can totally make two movies just showing us the first two quarter quells - Haymitch won the second QQ and that would be so interesting to watch.
My absolute favorite thing ever is now Brittany singing the French national anthem 51:42
car is swerving all over the I-90 and broski report is playing peacefully in the background
Ah yes... So much peace....
"WAKE UP WAKE UP NIGHTMARE WAKE UP HANDS OFF WAKE UP NIGHTMARE WAKE UP"
“This is a hot take” - proceeds to say the most understandable take in the whole maasiverse I LOVE YOU QUEEN
our queen hath bathed us in her content onceforth
Brittany: *tries to do a Scottish accent* "I don't know how to do Scottish"
Also Brittany: *says the exact same thing, in the exact same accent but louder*
i need everyone who wants to make an analysis video on hunger games and especially an analysis of the ballad of songbirds and snakes to actually read the books and not just watch the movie. like i'm not even saying this to be an asshole, but my god you missed a lot of what's actually going on in the book 😭
Brittany, you are beautiful and I admire your strength, wisdom, and humor. You are everything I strive to be as a woman. I am so thankful you have a voice in the media. I am proud to be apart of the broski nation.
Oh my god unironically I am deeply moved by Britanny’s singing. dude what a voice. Please sing more queen 😭
Brittany jump scaring me out of my half asleep morning routine
Saaamme
I feel like whoever tried to explain the prequel book to you did you a disservice. There is so much more context that you need for the characters to understand why Lucy Gray is the way she is and the same for Coriolanus. Also reading Corio’s inner dialogue is key to the plot!
Couldn’t have said it better
Is that really how his name is spelled??? 💀💀💀
@@sophiaguzman4757unfortunately I think so 😂
@@KierstonKxsh The author did him sooo dirty 😂 😭
this is not poetic torture brittany this is starved heterosexuality in a world where the male specimens are not up to standard
A world of mid women all feelings they deserve the top 1% of men
Nail on the head, wow
Neither are the women Tbf 😂😂
@MickeySticky_teasin_me idk who is "yall" mickey, i'm cuffed up with a sweet + funny metalhead and i don't find any of the men she mentioned attractive
Wow you nailed it SO PERFECTLY
I love how the episodes always start off as “omg he’s so hot LOOK AT THIS PICTURE OF HIM” and devolves into a rant about the political and economic state of todays society. Every time. Without fail, and I love her for that
Yesss
And ends with the French Anthem 😂 (beautifully sung as well)
Hahahaha exactly!
this just reminds me of that tweet “you women will allow men to be something they would never allow you to be: ugly & loved”
EDIT: PLEASE READ THE BOOK! She is NOT quiet. Her whole character is beautiful and alluring and talented. that’s why Coryo tries to gain her trust so that she will be able to win him the Plinth Prize
rachel's performance was greater than i even expected. i don't understand why brittany thinks she can complain about rachel's portrayal of lucy gray when brittany didn't even read the book. her (appalachian, not southern) accent was accurate too.
YES! when she said he was considering abolishing the games I laughed. He never thought of that, just thought of winning the money to rebuild his family and his personal success.
@@maeveramsey9251 Agreeeed
@@Myh9801fr, I was thinking “girl what makes you think he wants to do that?”
fr y’all need to read the book
women wanting cute “ugly” men that are funny and smart and men only seeing the surface is the most accurate thing ever
it's because women are seen as objects not people
why do we keep giving them access to us? they're literally like 'we only see you as warm bodies to boost our egos' and we still want them? ick
we really need a “yell cam” so every time she turns away from the mic to scream into the void, we can get a face cam there and we dan truly finally feel shouted at directly by brittany broski
most significant and life altering comment ive ever read, couldnt agree more 🫡
YES
please that would be amazing
Omg this is the best suggestion ever 😂😂
Nuh uh too scary
i am currently ill like a victorian child on my couch & i am so elated to listen to this podcast that i feel my symptoms disappearing
I am ill like a Victorian child dying on my couch as well and I too feel that my symptoms are leaving me 😂❤
Girl same I think this is the first time I’m not listening in office HAHA
i just ate a pickle and it was really good
PLS THIS GOT ME CACKLINGGGG
Did we all get hit w the plague or something? I'm also laying in my death bed rn and as soon as I started listening to this podcast, I felt the illness leaving through my pores lmaooo
I need her to read the book and react to that. I think it shows just how psychotic Snow was. I don’t he ever truly loved Lucy Gray - he wanted to own her and control her.
I need you to read the book so bad. You will not feel any sympathy for Snow at all. He was horrid from the very first page all the way through. The movie you just couldn’t hear his thoughts
Yup there were so many moments where if you read the book you knew he was thinking some nasty vile shit when all it was on screen was like a flicker of thought on his face
Agree! In the book you could tell he was already a bad person and the rest of the story just solidified his beliefs. The movie paints him as a young innocent boy who gets turned bad through circumstances
yeahhh i get he’s hot but he is the worst from the start
He may have been terrible but goddamn did I have a lil chuckle a few times. Dude was sassy
and lucy gray is not quiet or demure. idk what book her friend read
I live in France and Brittany’s rendition of the Marseillaise is probably the most emotional rendition of it I’ve ever heard lmao. Just enough pathos and ferociousness.
The thing I find frustrating about this video is that you have no problem with how attractive Tom Blyth is in regards to his performance of Coriolanus Snow. But you have a problem with Lucy Gray being pretty. You said you think she is too beautiful considering she is part of the working class. Lucy Gray literally survived because of her beauty, it even says so in one of her songs “you went to the dogs and I lived by my charms.” I encourage you to read the book because I believe it would change your opinion about Coriolanus Snow and see how he is so demented even before his “switch”.
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I think what's being lost in translation between Brittany and the comment section is that whoever explained the book to her did a shit job of it and she's missing so much context that would completely change her opinion. She isn't being malicious and she isn't jealous, she's just been misinformed about the plot
@@deltafournumbers I'm sorry but wtf is the point in doing this if you've never seen the movie or read the book. It's just another pointless podcast episode.
@@deltafournumbersthen she shouldn't have done a video about it. what insight do you have to talk on something you don't know? if anything that makes the criticism even more valid
Her whole take is giving internalized misogyny tbh
There is also safety and security in fangirling… the part of us that acknowledges it will never happen feels safe; we don’t have to be vulnerable and we never have to get hurt.
Unless…… lol. 🙃
so trueeeee
I swear, week after week, Brittany perfectly articulates *exact* conversations I have with my friends and coworkers and *they* all look like I'm crazy. And then I come to this comment section, and I'm reassured that I'm not alone
truly, where are all you people irl??
@@kimberly.aerialTexas! Unironically lol.
same!! i need to find ppl like yall
You are definitely not alone!!
Her perspective of Lucy Gray was so WRONG. Lucy is never described as quiet in the books. They also did not bossify her at all. In fact they made her more passive in the movie because in the book she actively kills someone with a snake in hand to hand combat.
they most deffiently do bossify her. Just their whole design of her and the cocky personality is a total 180 from the bravery we see in the books
@@bookzt there’s nothing in the film that Lucy Grays says that’s not in the books. Tell me what line she says that changed her personality?
its not the words she says specifically, but the way they are expressed through the acting. @@Icycold21
@@bookzt So you know how Lucy was acting in the book? I didn’t realize you could hear and see her from words, even though it doesn’t describe them.
your arguing with a 15 year old that read and watched bosbas for fun. If you cant handle others opinions, then why dish yours out?😘😘 @@Icycold21
I just feel like she got misled by her friend who read the book. Lucy Gray in the books is way WAAAAY louder and energetic and opinionated, mothered so hard. Rachel Zegler is amazing but obviously, she was toned down in the movie because idk how they'd fit so much of that personality in less than three hours of a movie that's focused on another character. But Lucy Gray is definitely not "girlbossing" in both the books and the movie and if anything, she was TONED DOWN in the movie.
Her character's personality is also very much complex as well, something that I think Rachel Zegler portrayed so well even with only limited appearances. She's smart, she's cunning, sassy, sarcastic, very strong-willed and knows what she wants. But she's also very caring and soft and sentimental where she gives and does so much for her family and she isn't afraid to show that softness and vulnerability to the people she trusts and also not ashamed to ask help. She's such a transparent and kind girl, just everything. I hope Brittany reads the book.
I think that Disney in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s did a great job of differentiating princesses. Ariel, Jasmine, Belle, Meg, Mulan, etc are all SO unique personality wise.
I loved mulan as a kid ❤ she was my hero
Yes! They not only look and act different from each other- they also fit into their stories so seamlessly (bc they’re written as fully developed human beings).
There’s such a huge difference when you compare those ‘Disney princesses’ to the main characters Disney is coming up with today.
calling lucy gray a girlboss is kind of wild to me when she literally spent the whole games running and hiding and only survived because Snow cheated like 3 different times lmao. Just because she didn't run after Snow like a puppy and she stood up for herself doesn't make her a girl boss.
here are my notes:
1. Rachel Zegler gave Lucy Gray an Appalachian accent so that’s why it sounds like a southern accent.
2. Lucy Gray was beautiful but she was supposed to be different from the boring and grey people in District 12 since she only got stuck there when she was traveling for music. She technically was not from that district.
3. I would love another prequel movie but I want to see another games. I would love to see Haymitch’s games when he won. He was the winner of the 50th Hunger Games (2nd Quarter Quell), and won against twice as many people since they reaped two pairs of men and women that year. I just know those games were INSANE and it can show us how Haymitch won and how he got to his present day- alcoholic self that we know.
That’s the end of my notes. :)
edit: I am not contradicting or disagreeing with anything Brittney said these are just my opinions on the topic. I love my leader of Broski Nation!
stop haymitch’s game would be batshit crazy that would be amazing to watch
YESSSSS
Sooo true reading about how Haymitch won his games is heartbreaking and crazy I would love to see that
SAME SAME SAME SAME SAME
yes good notes 👍🏽
I love that Brittany has her white boys of the month but Hozier is the only constant. She is truly committed
but she can’t move to Ireland
i feel like there are season long arcs and monster of the week arcs. like hozier is high rn since the new album but someone like harry had a long arc earlier this year. i think pedro had an arc but robert pattison was a man of the week
Reading the book now and Lucy Gray is not quiet or stoic like your friend said lol she’s very much a charismatic cheeky if not obnoxious character. The Rachel Zegler hate is so disappointing. She’s a beautiful woman who is killing it right now, and who’s hating???? WOMEN
Men are hating on her as well, be real now.
As someone who’s written essays on the book it makes my blood legitimately boil when people who haven’t read it say rachel turned her into a girlboss 😭
Right???? I felt she kinda was in the book as well. I actually thought she was more quirky in the books. Also looking up the accent she was doing she did a pretty good job!
Also very thin and beautiful? Isn't that basically how she's described? 😫 She's starving and snow is like obsessed with her
i agree
Couldn’t agree more! Rachel played her exactly like the book
Ngl I disagreed with like everything Brittany said about Lucy gray and Rachel zegler acting. First of all it’s not a “bad”
Southern accent it’s an Appalachian accent 😭 like would you be saying she has a “gen z” face if she was the hot white man of the week? Anyways
@@brooke4608 1) Completely agree with the accent thing. It really annoys me when people say that. 2) The whole "white boy of the week" thing was funny at first, but like... why is she ONLY talking about white men... like exclusively…?
I hear a lot of people say that rachel zeglers “southern accent” was really bad but i think that it was definitely supposed to be an Appalachian accent. I’m front Pennsylvania near the poconos and the further into the mountains you go the more people sound like her so it was really nice to see that culture be portrayed on screen for once and I think she did a really good job on the accent it sounds really accurate at least for where i am
fr im from kentucky and i saw so much of my culture in it
yep her appalachian(!!) accent was perfect
woahh kinda surreal reading this comment while i’m sitting here in the poconos lol
Yessss. I agree! It was heavyyyyy but so are most folks accents around where I live lol
I second this as someone from West Virginia. Her accent was amazing
Just to throw a little info, Lucy Gray’s accent is an Appalachian accent. The music isn’t country either, it’s Appalachian folk. It was great to have some representation!
yes this!!!
i commented ab this too!! growing up around Appalachian culture was so fun, but people everywhere talk down on the accent. so cool to see it positively represented!!
I feel like the Appalachian accents get the most “mocked” and that’s why people think it’s a “fake southern accent”😂
I'm polish, never have been in the US and yet I could hear that's Appalachian accent🙊 also she was really good Lucy Gray. Lucy was strong and independent proud of her chosen family and yet using her beauty and voice when needed. Corio was a psycho from the begining end never loved her like ppl love. He had such a disgusting thoughs about her and everyone else. He was cute I get it 🙊 but he was the same guy from the first words about his family till the end ☠️ just have more power
I am from the deep Appalachia 😂 I can’t tell you how much I get made fun of just in the next big town over
i was NOT expecting to see Brittany singing the french anthem and it was so out of the blue that i couldn't stop laughing but hey that's the magic of the Broski Report. thank you leader for one more much needed counsel to enlighten the Broski nation, we appreciate your efforts!!!
thank god rachel zegler actually read the book and didn’t make character decisions based off of tiktok discourse. also, how the hell does she have gen z face? she hasn’t had any plastic surgery. she doesn’t have veneers. for god sakes it’s not like she looks like kylie jenner… she’s just a gorgeous girl.
it just means she has a young face. and wth do you thing gen z looks like because it isn't that. she never insinuated that it was because she had something done to alter her appearance so I don't know where you got that idea from.
Plastic surgery is a gen z face to you?? Have you never seen a non famous gen z person before?? What the hell?
@@rayleaemma5645Lucy Gray is 18 at most. she’s young. and the hunger games is in the future.
rachel zegler can read the book n that’s great but not appreciate SNOW WHITE LMAOOO
@@leanneparker6139there is literally nothing to appreciate about snow white
The Lucy gray take was not it😭 The argument of her ‘looking to good’ is weird cause like poor people can be hot too? And she’s underfed so of course she’s gonna be scrawny. Plus its set in the future so having too modern of a face (tho this is such a real thing) is smth i think could be excused for this concept.
Me personally, I took it to mean the makeup and everything wasn’t realistic. She looked too beautiful in the sense that you can kinda tell she has makeup on all through the movie, which doesn’t make sense for a district 12 person.
But idk what should’ve been different in that way, it’s a movie, the main actress who’s meant to be beautiful is definitely gonna have makeup on 😭
@@Kingbimmyshe wears makeup in the book, coriolanus talks about her eyeshadow, rouge and ‘greasy lipstick’
@@Kingbimmyshe was supposed to look like she had makeup on. in the book it said that she wears makeup.
@@Kingbimmythe book literally explains multiple times that she uses a lot of make up
@@Kingbimmylike others have explained that take is still not it if you don’t know the book, because she’s supposed to be wearing makeup. When Snow first sees her at the reaping she actually even had red lipstick and the makeup seems more heavy and he’s confused where a district girl from 12 would get makeup from, and Lucy Gray is very focused on her appearance
Rachel Zegler is actually really suited for Lucy Gray because her beauty is a part of the character, she is a performer and uses her talent and beauty to her advantage
EXACTLY. when you read the book you realise that snow wasn't in love with her, he's obsessed with her beauty and wants to control her.
This girl just comment things without actually research soooo😅
yea i think it's very clear in the movie that men want her
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YES how they explained his reaction in the book when she sang the song in her final interview... completely different vibes in the movie
@@wlweloise7270
Girl… don’t speak on the book if you haven’t read it 😭💀 Your take on Lucy Gray was not it
ALSO: you’re criticizing Lucy/Rachel for being “too pretty” and then go on a rant about how hot Snow/Tom is??? Come on now 😬
I want a book following tigress - that way it’s a new story but we get to see snow from her perspective and how his image changes in her mind. We could learn more about the fashion industry in the Capitol and how she became a stylist and then her decent into heavy plastic surgery. Her story would be so interesting.
I usually agree with Brittany's opinions, but in this case I would recommend reading the book and then going back and re-watching the movie (a recommendation I make to everyone since its one of the best prequels I've ever read). I actually think Lucy Gray was portrayed extremely well in the film. The whole book is from Coriolanus's perspective, so she's a bit hard to pin down in the books beyond his interpretation of her. But Rachel Zegler brings the charm and grit that the character would need for the sequence of events to make sense. Her personality also makes sense given her background as a performer. I really don't think she's a girl boss in the same way that Katniss isn't either; they are both resilient survivors forced into an awful situation. I don't think Lucy Gray is ever described as shy in the books, maybe scared (she is, after all, about to go into the hunger games). Her accent is also Appalachian, which is what most/all of District 12 would sound like if the films were book accurate due to the region specificities. Overall, these books and movies are more allegories than anything else, and the point is to critique society, especially the entertainment industry.
Completely agree! I wouldn’t say Lucy Gray is shy at all, she loves to sing and perform. And I don’t see her as a “girl boss” either just because she won the games.
Yes you put it so well!! I couldn’t help but keep saying “read the book read the book!” while she was saying Lucy Gray was shy/cunning. Like Rachel did amazing giving Lucy Gray so much more depth
yes I also agree with this! I would really like her to read the book as some of her opinions on the movie aren’t quite accurate. She said something about “You can tell Snow is try to fight the corruption of the capitol but you see is slow decent into madness towards the end” but if you’ve read the book you know he’s a horrible villain from the START lol
I fucking HATE to say this but she seems jealous of Rachel, not doing a drop of research let's her continue to dislike her for no reason as well.
@@jessicalyon1740 yes I think the film suffers from not having Coriolanus’s inner dialogue bc in the books he is quite unhinged from the start lol
It is so annoying that everyone is commenting on Brittany's bad take on the casting of Lucy Gray when 10 min later she gives a beautiful monolog of the dystopian feel of our society and the parallels that Hungergames has to the possible future we are barreling toward.
well that’s cause her take literally said lucy gray is too beautiful to be a working class woman?? like it’s insane 😭
Love you Brittany but your take on TBOSAS is just so so wrong. I think you'd change it if you read the book. Rachel played Lucy very well, and she was some much needed APPALACHIAN representation. I think she nailed the accent. District 12 is set in appalachia also the double standard about snow being attractive but with Lucy it's a problem.... No hate love u but I rly think that this was the wrong take. Definitely interesting to see how only movie watchers interpreted the characters. Also, Lucy gray was the opposite of quiet. She was a performer. She knew exactly what she was doing the whole time to win the crowds to her advantage. She is cunning, smart, and outgoing. And that's not a problem.
Brittany cackling at herself after singing the French national anthem always gets me. I love her self awareness. WERK it girl. Also, nice tenor voice!
Brit, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of Coriolanus. He never loved Lucy. He finds her embarassing to him, inappropriate, to him she is just a tool to climb the social ladder and then a toy to play with out of spite. He wants to own her and puppet her. The MOMENT she stops being of any use to him and becomes a potential loose thread he HUNTS HER DOWN, the same way he kills Seanus. He is a narcissist with zero potential to love. You NEED to read the book because it's harder to understand how COLD he is from the movie.
this oh my god!! thank you!!