made in China? You have no right to spread the judgment about Mongolia. We see the worst possible information in their videos. fortunately the world is interested in the land of great Chingis Khan
Kazakhstan has more than enough oil revenue to expand the metro system in Almaty and build a brand new one in Astana though. Just curious why they aren't.
A city can be densely populated yet at the same time let her residents feel comfortable to live in it. Amenities and facilities, and an efficient and effective public transport system, and all the conveniences of modern urban living. Maybe like Singapore, with lots of common green spaces and gardens. If it’s just blocks and blocks of awful grey buildings and barely a working transport grid, and not many facilities, folks Will definitely want to move away
The worst part about Ulaanbaatar is they have no transport infrastructure to support the rising population. I went there on holiday last year and the only thing you can use to get around the city is roads there are no trains or subways for use within the city. You would be stuck literally an hour just to move a few blocks.
@@Prororo It's sadly a feedback loop. Without transit systems, it's hard for an economy to get going, but without the economy going, it's hard to pay for transit. It just takes borrowing, investment and time with a bit of growing paints to get through it. It's a difficult process but I hope they can find their way.
I live in an apartment with a total height of 34 floors, but my community can keep children's playground, and I can also walk 10 minutes to a city park with an area of 410,000m². It all depends on urban planning, there is nothing wrong with high-rise buildings.
I think it's location more than anything else. Ulaanbaatar is not lacking in space and doesn't have a super large population. There's really no need to be building high density there. Poor urban planning indeed
@@randomchannel-px6ho The point is not the land, although the land is important, otherwise people would not be flocking to Ulaanbaatar from a vast area, as is the trend anywhere in the world. People need modern life, but this is not what I want to talk about this time. The point is that apartment housing is the most energy efficient, especially for Ulaanbaatar where winters can easily reach minus 40 degrees. Concrete buildings for intensive living are very effective at retaining heat. In contrast, to heat a detached house, the cost, energy waste, and pollution caused are unimaginable. This is why per capita energy consumption in Europe and the United States is always high. Their lives are not as utopian as they imagined. Mongolia is not one of those countries with a century of colonial accumulation, they are also in the process of development, and they have to carefully plan how to spend their money. Rich people can live anywhere they like away from the city center, but the government must provide an affordable solution for most people.
@@orangesel9338 the difference is that most of their nomadic way of living has been sustained throughout the ages and that's their nature whereas other civilizations despite being nomads and tribes for a time, developed cities and major trade routes, they built new infrastructure and pioneered new ways to accomodate their growing population in a rather small territory or limited usable land. Mongols always had land even at the height of their empire, they were always true to a nomadic way to living.
Mongolia is one of the least densely populated countries in the world. I wonder what's the logic behind building these kinds of concrete jungles when they have a lot of freelands. Half the population and nearly all the wealth is concentrated in Ulaan Bataar. They need to build more industrial powerhouses to drive the economy other than just mining.
You're absolutely right!! UB city has built so many high rise budings, but there're neither overpass bridge, nor highway crossing city, incredible narrow and poor road causing horrible trafic..., if Mongolian gov used wealth to build their own industry,especiall manufature industry in last 20 years, they would had become a modern and rich contry like Japan, but they didn't
if the main issue is the lack of playgrounds, benches, parking, then the planning ministries should plan for those. Stopping the construction of new apartments is only going to make prices shoot up faster than it is now. Many people are moving to the city and there needs to be enough housing for everyone. Plus, that ban doesn't help the existing residents. Hopefully when the Ulaanbaatar Metro opens, it will help with their traffic and parking issues
Building new apartments doesn't help. The cost of living there is barely affordable for the average Mongolian and a lot of the people moving to UB are herders who don't have an education. They just end up moving to the slums in the city outskirts and taking up land
Same in Hong Kong. When I was young, we could run around in our village. Now, 40 stories high rises surrounding our village, blocking the hills and mountains with railway and roads.
@clemathieu JT they are both cities though?? Yes at least Mongolians can go across their mostly wild land but they still both deserve better planning with nature.
@@PikaPluff mongolia has a land mass many thousands time larger than hong kong with a population that is 7 times smaller. Very different, high rise building project is totally unnecessary cost given the fact that the majority of the population are working in Agriculture sectot
Why not build a giant circle traditional Mongolian house as a apartment? Not only is it part of the Mongolian culture but also utilizing the past to present to modernize it. This will create a positive effect on the economy and people mentality. It shows the people culture within the modern day with art which bring happiness and scholar mind knowledge. Inspiring others to do the same or better. Having a circle infrastructure also allows more space and daylight through the building. I’m sure no one wants their kid to play at a playground that’s corner and block off by the sun due to high concrete walls and buildings.
i think that with the ger districts, such a structure would be written off as poor and without some of the things valued in typical apartments (most importantly privacy and running water/heat) so wouldn't be desirable. not the worst idea though... sounds like a tourist attraction
Parking spots… the bane of all modern urbanism Don’t ever put parking spots in the same importance as a hospital as parking spots are one of the most inefficient concepts to have come out in the modern times
Mid rise city that is well planned is the best option in this kind of situation. Some city in Central Asia are like this and it looks gorgeous. Lots of green spaces/parks too
If there's no demand, there'd be no supply. I wouldn't buy condos. I buy landed property (house 🏠) where I live because we are not land limited. We have a choice unless we live in places like Hong Kong or Singapore. Don't buy the high rise if there's plenty of land. We also need to know that with high rises, less land would be used for housing and thus there'd be more open spaces outside of the cities. It's a matter of balance after all. Don't like crampy cities? Move out to the countryside.
The common sick of develping countries, specially in east Asia, always want to keep up with the Joneses, they want to show the world that, they are aslo morden country like Manhattan, also they actually dont't have to do that
When the previous authorities are more interested in money spinning projects than spend time on proper infrastructure and building planning, you get a nightmare of a mess
@@whitepouch0904 They have a choice. However living in the city, no matter how crammed is a much better life than trying to scrape by in the Mongolian country side. That is why so many people are choosing to move to the city causing overpopulation and forcing the government to build these high rises in order to deal with it.
Wow, it's almost unbelivable how urban planning has gone so wrong like if they were building in the most densly populated country in the world, of course it is best to let nature be itself yet they cold have planned those tight spaces to be more confortable and livable, especially integrating some greenness in the urban context, which is a concept that I really love
Yup, but that costs money Mongolians don’t have. Avg yearly salary is $7k/yr and GDP is $15 Billion. Lack of money to build and maintain proper architecture in addition to lack of urban planning for said architecture by a people who for millennia were steppe nomads is why there are dozens of concrete buildings of brutalist architecture squished together. Let’s not forget the expanse of the concrete mafias reach. That said, in the future I see the Capital redeveloped into a Kyoto style city, but Mongolians have a lot of work to do to make that possible.
@@NarasimhaDiyasena Thank you for your answer, I would have never thought of that because I can't really have a clear point of view about the people, I am looking from an outer, European point of view, which couldn't have help me understand this, so thank you a lot and i hope that these problems might find a better solution soon for all the Mongolian people
@@jungemanner4915 The name was "suggested" by a Russian commissar from Comintern. No Mongolians at that time could say No to his suggestion. I am Mongolian btw, where are you from?
I'm from Canada, born & raised. The developers of Ulaanbaatar really upset me. I get how some big business in our cities want change. Doing so will only cause our once beautiful cities to disappear. They all only want to and currently need to, make room for growth. Sadly it's now only beautiful to people who have big pockets. Why is this always the outcome? Money, I mean wealthy people, who seem to not or just don't care about all the others. We can see how this becomes a bad idea, that others cannot see. When will the big corporations learn from our failures? I'm sure there are many different companies or government projects that in hindsight also now wish that they did NOT need to change or build a new cookie cutter community. Also I'd LOVE to live in such a beautiful place with wide open spaces for animals, family and my children. A yurt looks so simple & comfortable for living with nature bringing family together. Living in the West is great, But I envy so many in Europe. The culture & traditions will be lost to most if this construction boom keeps destroying what was provided for us on our great green earth.
As someone what was there last week, the traffic was INSANE. It took 2 hours to move like 2 miles. Never saw anything like it. Their infrastructure is not keeping pace
that's only in Ulaanbaatar. this video is very one sided. that's not all of mongolia. Mongolia has other beautiful cities. Mongolia has just 3 million people. and 4 times larger than Germany. Berlin in particular has a population of 3 million. mongolia is infinitely large and beautiful.
They have a fertility rate of 2.8 children per woman, only slightly higher than the global average. The city's population boom is driven more by migration from the countryside than by a baby boom.
Mongolia is a stubborn race. The Mongol Empire was established 800 years ago, but it was short-lived and was pushed back to the Stone Age in just a few decades. China's Inner Mongolia has been with China for hundreds of years. The people of the Inner Mongolian ethnic group have learned civilization. Inner Mongolia has the strongest economy among the five ethnic autonomous regions in China. The people and servants of the Inner Mongolian autonomous region have also learned how to govern the country and how to maintain long-term stability.
What would fix this is better public transportation. People can live in their traditional homes on the outside or “suburbs” of the city and then just commute to work. Or the city could encourage companies to place their buildings on the outside of the city and natives in the main city can just commute there
If Mongolians lived only in yurts, you would say the government of Mongolia doed nothing to modernise and improve quality of life. Now that they are modernising and building modern habitational structures, you say Mongolians long for space. It's just that your rulers dislike Mongolian government.
The Mongolian government and the Mongolian people advocate foreign trade and public relations by making friends with distant countries and attacking nearby ones, which has offended the two big neighbors. They have established investment cooperation with Chinese companies, but within two years, they announced the cancellation of Chinese investment. This country and its people are left to fend for themselves with their pride of autonomy and independence.
Same when I lived in Shanghai and Shenzhen , during the time I was a teenager in the 90s, the urban sprawl of these two cities came with thousands of high rises and skyscrapers. I grew up in the era and witnessing the villages disappear and turned into concrete blocks and commercial centers.
@@Orgil. R u indicating that the dominant percentage of Han Chinese population could make your living environment much better? Do u feel upset to see multiethnic people live in harmony together? We have Mongolian Chinese living in other regions other than Inner Mongolia and everything is fine. I suspect u r a racist couldn't accept ethnic integration, so just isolate yourself from the world and wait for trains via Russia or China to get u clothes.
Lol, there's plenty of trees and grasses. This video is recorded during spring, and fyi Mongolian winter can be very harsh dats y you won't see much greenery after winter ends
these are typical growing pains because urban planners are difficult to find so many projects are by developers not city planners. Its easy these days to build apartment buildings and skyscrapers. Much more difficult to sit down in a meeting and ask people what they want in a city - cafes, bike paths, subway stations, bus stations, trash pick up, sewage treatment, banks, convenience stores, light rail, trees, boulevards, parks, fountains, and public squares are just as important as tall buildings.
It's neither becoming a Europe kind or US kind city It's becoming a urban Asia style model as seen in Beijing, Tokyo , Hongkong and Bengaluru Problem is mongolia isn't urbanized to the levels of those cities or such countries , Mongolia should adopt it's own model of urbanisation which could be a mix of indigenous and modern practices
@@TarunKumar-vx1hq Bengaluru ???? Broken roads and road filled with water after every rainfall. That’s not urbanization. India has not reached that level yet
@Maxus Lorenzo Hong Kong has access to water and has better infrastructure. Mongolia should do is be more built more homes in rule areas and not urbanize.
There might be lots of space, but a person has to be able to work a job to make a living in that space to be able to survive. Ulaanbaatar gives the biggest opportunities.
Literally. A country with 1.5 million sq km, plenty of room to spare, very low pop density, and they have no better idea than to build depressing soviet flat blocks...
Rather than bulid more building Ulaanbaatar should focus on establishing parks, libraries and public spaces, improve and increase public trasportations, tourism or cultural heritage centres, maybe street food, create yurt housing area, etc. Create sustainable city
No playgrounds or green spaces in the city at least? Who is building these buildings? ?? The mayor should at least require construction companies to build green spaces, city parks, and playgrounds.
They had the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of bad infrastructure projects from around the world and to build something amazing. Yet they managed to make all the same mistakes.
You know how big is monglia ... Population is low space is quite big still suprised why contract holder cant make some space for parking or Childeren play ground ... Must be corruption
@@minimalisttraveler9337 May I ask where you are moving to? I am just wondering what would be an acceptable replacement for someone who is used to the beauty and all the positives of New Zealand. I’d imagine anywhere else in the world would be inferior for you (except maybe Australia).
@@bloodndestroy two options at the moment. You are correct, Australia is one. While most people think Australia is expensive, New Zealand is far far more expensive to live when comparing overall cost against salaries.
Several years ago moved from central UB to that time suburb. In condo where live now enough parking lots, playgrounds. But visible from my balcony mountain range is closed now, too many new apartment blocks across the road from my place. Traffic jam at not only rush hours is terrible. Hope things will be improved within next years since the country is still democratic and voice of ordinary people sometimes reaches decision makers.
I could be wrong, but I think it has to do with money. I feel like companies/individuals build these high rises in order to create large amounts of renting space at a relatively cheap cost.
Fire the city planner, horrible job not providing any green space. I visited in 1993 when Ulaanbaatar was about a mile long. I could see one end of the city from the other end. This bad city planning is not an improvement at all. Who would want to visit it now? Even NYC which they call a concrete jungle has central park and other green spaces. It’s essential for people‘s well-being.
In Mongolian cities, it's hardly find any factory and tracks running on the street, so what do most of Mongolian people rely on? all depends on goverment's finantial support and payment?
About 16% of the workforce is in government. Construction is a very big sector. There are quite a few factories at the outskirts, many of them food focused. There's an MCS plant to the east, they make many drinks and the official licenser of Coca Cola. TESO, Suu (Milk), Atar, Uguuj, Talh Chiher (bread sweets), Mah Impex are other examples. There are 4 large banks that also employ a lot of people, support the economy and so on. Darkhan (uul) city, 3rd largest, has a major metallurgical plant that makes steel rebars from scrap metal. Erdenet, 2nd largest, was basically built from the copper mine there. There are also efforts to go up the value chain in mining by building a steel factory and other more refining type of works.
@@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 why Mongolia unable to make such as running shoes, jeans, shirts,cups, ramen and so force, there are so many people and jeaps heading for China for buying them, why you can't make them by yourself?
Skyscrapers aren't the problem. It's the lack of proper urban planning and infrastructure to keep up with a burgeoning population is the problem. Same goes for my hometown of Edmonton.. While it was great at planning for parks, transit infrastructure for the city is woefully lacking given the population... And of course, affordable housing... A worldwide issue...
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I was born in a secluded county at a time when the world population is just half of today. This has always been one of my most treasured and happiest memories in my lifetime. The world today is a tragic place in my eyes. With haste we move through too short lives. Driven to err by base desires heading toward waste while we live. That is the sum of our humanity as a whole today.
@@deeptanshubhowmik5073 Life for me involve much more than being poor or rich. If you think I will have regrets in these areas you will be disappointed. Also I ask a question not an attack. Your own heart is letting you see what you want to see and is playing you as a plaything.
That’s a really long ban on new construction… that definitely won’t have any negative consequences at all within a growing country. I get the need for new housing and not wanting high rises but it seems like they could change the focus to low rise apartments ones that are like 4 stories tall and build them around centrally located public parks and small businesses districts to provide a balance of life. Maybe the city also needs a street car public transportation system or a true RTD bus system with its own dedicated driving lanes, they already have the high density needed for a train system now they just need to build it.
it honestly isn't the worst idea when you consider the need of some other cities to grow, particularly erdenet, darkhan, choibalsan... they don't really have these problems as hard if at all especially the density. too bad for poorer people tho, rite?
"Your palace might stand forever, but my yurt can go anywhere" *Genghis Khan* Now, Yurt homes facing extinction in Mongolia, replaced by high rise apartment complex.
Town planning allow by gov. town planners in the past. In Malaysia, there must be greenery, swimming pools each condos, shoplots all. There is no design in the architecture or landscape also. Come live in Malaysia is better environment with skyscrapers also in beautiful designs architectures.
It sounds like the problem is cars. All the public space was converted to car lanes and parking lots. It's time use the economic boom to put in much-needed public transit and implement congestion charging. That way you can return space to humans while continuing to accommodate more residents. Every city that grows fast after the widespread adoption of cars goes through this. Cars are the problem you have to deal with.
If they don't like the neighborhood (it being a concrete jungle and all), why do they even buy those apartments, to begin with? Don't like it, don't buy it. If there's no demand, they won't build... it's that simple!
Literally the Philippines, a concrete prison where you work, live and spend time in concrete buildings from home to office to shopping malls. Not much parks nor any social and leisure public places.
Bruh. The least dense country in the world. Only half the population of Mongolia live in Ulaanbaatar. The rest still live in the open space. 99.7% of the whole country is empty.
They have so much land and they choose to go up? This is the type of country that could have its capital city be huge and flat and low. Not small, condensed and high up.
I can only imagine that greedy construction companies / governments forced this uppon the people in an effort to generate profits/ work for the workforce. With complete disregard / zero consultation with the people. These buildings destrpy culture and stop Mongolians develiping their own architctural herritage and own path to development.
The Mongols couldn't even manage this problem considering they robbed billions of wealth all over the world during the Mongolian empire era, especially they just got millions of people with vast land. You could use nice adjectives to describe it bu it's a failed country where the most polluted capital city located in, native languages were destroyed by themselves since they adopted Russian alphabets. Unemployment among Young people are very high. That's the reality of this failed Mongolia.
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Mongolia must hire more urban planners and city designers. Follow the Paris model.
@@artcurious807 …🤨 why?…they want to look at the wide open space just like the steppes…not another concrete jungle!
Soviet microdistrict still the best for green space
made in China? You have no right to spread the judgment about Mongolia. We see the worst possible information in their videos. fortunately the world is interested in the land of great Chingis Khan
I am from Germany. I lived 3 years in Mongolia. It's a lovely country with breathtaking nature. Best life experience.
so do you think should germany become like mongolia country too?
Stay in Germany
@@cocamilo22Are you unable to read? All he said is that Mongolia is a nice country with beautiful nature.
@@chinavirus841anyone can live wherever they want
and Breathtaking cold harsh winter with air pollution 💀
The same here in Kazakhstan. Crazy pace of development makes even the country of wide steppes feel suffocating.
Kazakhstan has more than enough oil revenue to expand the metro system in Almaty and build a brand new one in Astana though. Just curious why they aren't.
A city can be densely populated yet at the same time let her residents feel comfortable to live in it. Amenities and facilities, and an efficient and effective public transport system, and all the conveniences of modern urban living. Maybe like Singapore, with lots of common green spaces and gardens. If it’s just blocks and blocks of awful grey buildings and barely a working transport grid, and not many facilities, folks Will definitely want to move away
@@ianhomerpura8937 one word: corruption
Soviet microdistrict still the best for green space
I was in Astana last week but it is really beautiful, modern and comfortable!)
The worst part about Ulaanbaatar is they have no transport infrastructure to support the rising population. I went there on holiday last year and the only thing you can use to get around the city is roads there are no trains or subways for use within the city. You would be stuck literally an hour just to move a few blocks.
The reason for that is because we have barely any money to build our infrastructure
@@Prororo It's sadly a feedback loop. Without transit systems, it's hard for an economy to get going, but without the economy going, it's hard to pay for transit. It just takes borrowing, investment and time with a bit of growing paints to get through it. It's a difficult process but I hope they can find their way.
I live in an apartment with a total height of 34 floors, but my community can keep children's playground, and I can also walk 10 minutes to a city park with an area of 410,000m². It all depends on urban planning, there is nothing wrong with high-rise buildings.
They're hideous concrete monstrosities
I think it's location more than anything else. Ulaanbaatar is not lacking in space and doesn't have a super large population. There's really no need to be building high density there. Poor urban planning indeed
Just when the Administration is broke and could not maintain elevators , Lifts , then you realise the importance of traditional life 😂
You will be shocked when seeing the next maintenance bill
@@randomchannel-px6ho The point is not the land, although the land is important, otherwise people would not be flocking to Ulaanbaatar from a vast area, as is the trend anywhere in the world. People need modern life, but this is not what I want to talk about this time.
The point is that apartment housing is the most energy efficient, especially for Ulaanbaatar where winters can easily reach minus 40 degrees. Concrete buildings for intensive living are very effective at retaining heat. In contrast, to heat a detached house, the cost, energy waste, and pollution caused are unimaginable. This is why per capita energy consumption in Europe and the United States is always high. Their lives are not as utopian as they imagined.
Mongolia is not one of those countries with a century of colonial accumulation, they are also in the process of development, and they have to carefully plan how to spend their money. Rich people can live anywhere they like away from the city center, but the government must provide an affordable solution for most people.
They started off as nomads and hunters. It has always been in their blood. Their yearnings are understandable.
everyone started off as nomads and hunters?
@@orangesel9338 the difference is that most of their nomadic way of living has been sustained throughout the ages and that's their nature whereas other civilizations despite being nomads and tribes for a time, developed cities and major trade routes, they built new infrastructure and pioneered new ways to accomodate their growing population in a rather small territory or limited usable land. Mongols always had land even at the height of their empire, they were always true to a nomadic way to living.
@@adex7038 most humans long for their origins. hence why mental illness exists. its repression not depression that exists.
Mongolia is one of the least densely populated countries in the world. I wonder what's the logic behind building these kinds of concrete jungles when they have a lot of freelands. Half the population and nearly all the wealth is concentrated in Ulaan Bataar. They need to build more industrial powerhouses to drive the economy other than just mining.
They can't do anything with just 3 million people.
You're right, and meaningless. You can say that to most of countries
Unrealistic, how can 3 million people establish a supply chain? Can they find enough workers to become an industrial powerhouse?
@@stunstar4553 ask the Indians for reproduction technology; you'll always be chained ...
You're absolutely right!! UB city has built so many high rise budings, but there're neither overpass bridge, nor highway crossing city, incredible narrow and poor road causing horrible trafic..., if Mongolian gov used wealth to build their own industry,especiall manufature industry in last 20 years, they would had become a modern and rich contry like Japan, but they didn't
if the main issue is the lack of playgrounds, benches, parking, then the planning ministries should plan for those. Stopping the construction of new apartments is only going to make prices shoot up faster than it is now. Many people are moving to the city and there needs to be enough housing for everyone. Plus, that ban doesn't help the existing residents. Hopefully when the Ulaanbaatar Metro opens, it will help with their traffic and parking issues
I agree look at Singapore they have parks and to close essential services
Building new apartments doesn't help. The cost of living there is barely affordable for the average Mongolian and a lot of the people moving to UB are herders who don't have an education. They just end up moving to the slums in the city outskirts and taking up land
Same in Hong Kong.
When I was young, we could run around in our village. Now, 40 stories high rises surrounding our village, blocking the hills and mountains with railway and roads.
I can understand Hong Kong but Mongolia is a huge country. They can move out of the city if they want to.
@clemathieu JT they are both cities though?? Yes at least Mongolians can go across their mostly wild land but they still both deserve better planning with nature.
Hong kong is different. Cannot compare, last time boomer parents breed like 8 children on a tiny island and end up in such sorry atate
…🤔 HK is different…it’s just a small space so naturally the only way is ☝️! Or 👇 !
@@PikaPluff mongolia has a land mass many thousands time larger than hong kong with a population that is 7 times smaller. Very different, high rise building project is totally unnecessary cost given the fact that the majority of the population are working in Agriculture sectot
Why not build a giant circle traditional Mongolian house as a apartment? Not only is it part of the Mongolian culture but also utilizing the past to present to modernize it. This will create a positive effect on the economy and people mentality. It shows the people culture within the modern day with art which bring happiness and scholar mind knowledge. Inspiring others to do the same or better. Having a circle infrastructure also allows more space and daylight through the building. I’m sure no one wants their kid to play at a playground that’s corner and block off by the sun due to high concrete walls and buildings.
that's why you're youtube commenter
We can’t
We can’t afford it
i think that with the ger districts, such a structure would be written off as poor and without some of the things valued in typical apartments (most importantly privacy and running water/heat) so wouldn't be desirable. not the worst idea though... sounds like a tourist attraction
It's the same in Bucharest. They build block after block after block and no parking spots, no playgrounds, no hospitals. It's a nightmare.
Parking spots… the bane of all modern urbanism
Don’t ever put parking spots in the same importance as a hospital as parking spots are one of the most inefficient concepts to have come out in the modern times
High-rise building is a solution where there is limited land for housing
But with so many lands, it just doesn't make sense to build high-rise
Mid rise city that is well planned is the best option in this kind of situation. Some city in Central Asia are like this and it looks gorgeous. Lots of green spaces/parks too
If there's no demand, there'd be no supply. I wouldn't buy condos. I buy landed property (house 🏠) where I live because we are not land limited. We have a choice unless we live in places like Hong Kong or Singapore. Don't buy the high rise if there's plenty of land. We also need to know that with high rises, less land would be used for housing and thus there'd be more open spaces outside of the cities. It's a matter of balance after all. Don't like crampy cities? Move out to the countryside.
The common sick of develping countries, specially in east Asia, always want to keep up with the Joneses, they want to show the world that, they are aslo morden country like Manhattan, also they actually dont't have to do that
When the previous authorities are more interested in money spinning projects than spend time on proper infrastructure and building planning, you get a nightmare of a mess
The result without urban planning
even in europe cities look garbage.
modern urban planners can't build for s***
Mongolia is a beautiful & calm country, 🇮🇳🇲🇳
Yeah since Genghis Khan died they all became female
As a Mongolian, i tell you it's not beautiful. Half the country has become desert. Your fake positive comment is nothing but lie.
I hope Mongolia can manage the desert well and don't let sandstorms happen!
Their language sounds so unique
Especially the traditional script
Beautiful
their*
Yes.
To my ears sounded like Korean speaking tone + throat sounds typical of Dutch.
(By the way I don't have any knowledge of these 3 languages)
It sounds like Turkish
Sounds like a combination of Korean, Icelandic, and some other Scandinavian language.
Horrible for them, but this is happening everywhere, people being shoved together like cattle on a train.
We are all cattle on a train heading to the slaughterhouse
LoL. Nobody is shoving you. You decide to live in the city yourself.
Agreed. And another reason to stop eating animals to be honest because now we know how their lives feel :/
@@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane if they had a choice they wouldn’t. We all know the city is where the money is.
@@whitepouch0904 They have a choice. However living in the city, no matter how crammed is a much better life than trying to scrape by in the Mongolian country side. That is why so many people are choosing to move to the city causing overpopulation and forcing the government to build these high rises in order to deal with it.
Wow, it's almost unbelivable how urban planning has gone so wrong like if they were building in the most densly populated country in the world, of course it is best to let nature be itself yet they cold have planned those tight spaces to be more confortable and livable, especially integrating some greenness in the urban context, which is a concept that I really love
Yup, but that costs money Mongolians don’t have. Avg yearly salary is $7k/yr and GDP is $15 Billion. Lack of money to build and maintain proper architecture in addition to lack of urban planning for said architecture by a people who for millennia were steppe nomads is why there are dozens of concrete buildings of brutalist architecture squished together.
Let’s not forget the expanse of the concrete mafias reach.
That said, in the future I see the Capital redeveloped into a Kyoto style city, but Mongolians have a lot of work to do to make that possible.
@@NarasimhaDiyasena Thank you for your answer, I would have never thought of that because I can't really have a clear point of view about the people, I am looking from an outer, European point of view, which couldn't have help me understand this, so thank you a lot and i hope that these problems might find a better solution soon for all the Mongolian people
We wish that the Mongolians would have safer places to reside in. My prayers go out to these people.
We don't need your fake prayer and love.
@@Todsor yes their fake f••king pray comment just to get attention
@Todsor so you can read minds now?
@@Todsor relax, it’s a way to show goodwill to each other.
@@eonthinker100yrago8 Here is my billion prayers and thoughts to starving children in Africa. There! now i am a positive, caring person.
Ulaanbaatar 😊 have always love that name!
It means Red Hero, force-given by Russian communist. It's not a positive name at all.
@@Todsor well I just like how it sounds😁 thanks for the info on the meaning 👍
@@Todsor not forced-give name. Mongolians have chosen it.
@@jungemanner4915 The name was "suggested" by a Russian commissar from Comintern. No Mongolians at that time could say No to his suggestion. I am Mongolian btw, where are you from?
@@Todsor they have a choice to change it today. yet they still keep why?
I'm from Canada, born & raised. The developers of Ulaanbaatar really upset me. I get how some big business in our cities want change. Doing so will only cause our once beautiful cities to disappear. They all only want to and currently need to, make room for growth. Sadly it's now only beautiful to people who have big pockets. Why is this always the outcome? Money, I mean wealthy people, who seem to not or just don't care about all the others. We can see how this becomes a bad idea, that others cannot see. When will the big corporations learn from our failures? I'm sure there are many different companies or government projects that in hindsight also now wish that they did NOT need to change or build a new cookie cutter community. Also I'd LOVE to live in such a beautiful place with wide open spaces for animals, family and my children. A yurt looks so simple & comfortable for living with nature bringing family together. Living in the West is great, But I envy so many in Europe. The culture & traditions will be lost to most if this construction boom keeps destroying what was provided for us on our great green earth.
This is the downside of capitalism where only money or profit matters most.
As someone what was there last week, the traffic was INSANE. It took 2 hours to move like 2 miles. Never saw anything like it. Their infrastructure is not keeping pace
The city planner fail miserably because they never play Sim City.
These city planners should be sent to jail by their ignorant and incompetent
Those ger doesn't have flushing toilet, high rise building are still an upgrade from ger.
People who have many children: "why is everything so crowded?"
that's only in Ulaanbaatar. this video is very one sided. that's not all of mongolia. Mongolia has other beautiful cities. Mongolia has just 3 million people. and 4 times larger than Germany. Berlin in particular has a population of 3 million. mongolia is infinitely large and beautiful.
They have a fertility rate of 2.8 children per woman, only slightly higher than the global average. The city's population boom is driven more by migration from the countryside than by a baby boom.
No such problem for them 800 years ago when they ruled half the world.
Mongolia is a stubborn race. The Mongol Empire was established 800 years ago, but it was short-lived and was pushed back to the Stone Age in just a few decades. China's Inner Mongolia has been with China for hundreds of years. The people of the Inner Mongolian ethnic group have learned civilization. Inner Mongolia has the strongest economy among the five ethnic autonomous regions in China. The people and servants of the Inner Mongolian autonomous region have also learned how to govern the country and how to maintain long-term stability.
No greenery and feel very depressing...here in Singapore we are okay live in tall building everywhere, but we do have many green space too...
What would fix this is better public transportation. People can live in their traditional homes on the outside or “suburbs” of the city and then just commute to work. Or the city could encourage companies to place their buildings on the outside of the city and natives in the main city can just commute there
but people are cramped up in ulaanbaatar because it is the only developed place there
There is already a policy to promote companies and individuals to live outside of Ulaanbaatar.
Rapid development does not mean organized urban planning.
That is what Mongolia probably needs the most.
If Mongolians lived only in yurts, you would say the government of Mongolia doed nothing to modernise and improve quality of life. Now that they are modernising and building modern habitational structures, you say Mongolians long for space. It's just that your rulers dislike Mongolian government.
The Mongolian government and the Mongolian people advocate foreign trade and public relations by making friends with distant countries and attacking nearby ones, which has offended the two big neighbors. They have established investment cooperation with Chinese companies, but within two years, they announced the cancellation of Chinese investment. This country and its people are left to fend for themselves with their pride of autonomy and independence.
Same when I lived in Shanghai and Shenzhen , during the time I was a teenager in the 90s, the urban sprawl of these two cities came with thousands of high rises and skyscrapers. I grew up in the era and witnessing the villages disappear and turned into concrete blocks and commercial centers.
Inner Mongolia is much different. Green, modern.
and more than 80% is han chinese
@@Orgil. R u indicating that the dominant percentage of Han Chinese population could make your living environment much better? Do u feel upset to see multiethnic people live in harmony together? We have Mongolian Chinese living in other regions other than Inner Mongolia and everything is fine. I suspect u r a racist couldn't accept ethnic integration, so just isolate yourself from the world and wait for trains via Russia or China to get u clothes.
@@Orgil. There are far more ethnic mongols in Inner Mongolia than in Mongolia.
@@Orgil. The population of Inner Mongolia in China was 24 million，mean while mongolia just was 3.34 million.
Mongolia is green too this video is recorded in spring (after brutal winter)
This urbanism makes a strong men and strong men makes a bright future
No trees and grasses... i cant imagine myself living in that place
Lol, there's plenty of trees and grasses. This video is recorded during spring, and fyi Mongolian winter can be very harsh dats y you won't see much greenery after winter ends
these are typical growing pains because urban planners are difficult to find so many projects are by developers not city planners. Its easy these days to build apartment buildings and skyscrapers. Much more difficult to sit down in a meeting and ask people what they want in a city - cafes, bike paths, subway stations, bus stations, trash pick up, sewage treatment, banks, convenience stores, light rail, trees, boulevards, parks, fountains, and public squares are just as important as tall buildings.
A country like Mongolia could easily recreate low rise cities like europe low population, huge land. But don't become a urban sprawl like the US
It's neither becoming a Europe kind or US kind city
It's becoming a urban Asia style model as seen in Beijing, Tokyo , Hongkong and Bengaluru
Problem is mongolia isn't urbanized to the levels of those cities or such countries , Mongolia should adopt it's own model of urbanisation which could be a mix of indigenous and modern practices
@@TarunKumar-vx1hq Bengaluru ???? Broken roads and road filled with water after every rainfall. That’s not urbanization. India has not reached that level yet
@Maxus Lorenzo Hong Kong has access to water and has better infrastructure. Mongolia should do is be more built more homes in rule areas and not urbanize.
Reject modernity
Embrace tradition
We need for greens and playground around the world, and SPACE
Mongolia is the least densely populated country in the world. There is no justifiable reason for creating cramped spaces in the capital.
There might be lots of space, but a person has to be able to work a job to make a living in that space to be able to survive. Ulaanbaatar gives the biggest opportunities.
Mongolia is a huge country.
Move out of the city if you find it too cramped.
A city can be urban without tall buildings.
Imagine living without AC, Heater, Electricity and Water...
Literally. A country with 1.5 million sq km, plenty of room to spare, very low pop density, and they have no better idea than to build depressing soviet flat blocks...
Rather than bulid more building Ulaanbaatar should focus on establishing parks, libraries and public spaces, improve and increase public trasportations, tourism or cultural heritage centres, maybe street food, create yurt housing area, etc. Create sustainable city
@@Muesto123 sold to who?
Hello Mongolian🇲🇳 friends, your vast land really have diverse and panoramic nature
A 19 year building ban? So it's now we should invest in property there as prices are bound to go up...
No playgrounds or green spaces in the city at least? Who is building these buildings? ?? The mayor should at least require construction companies to build green spaces, city parks, and playgrounds.
They had the opportunity to learn from the mistakes of bad infrastructure projects from around the world and to build something amazing. Yet they managed to make all the same mistakes.
It's sad because obviously nothing lasts forever and something will replace it.
I am glad I am living in New Zealand. There is still plenty of space for houses.
Mongolia is more sparsely populated than Newzealand
Bro I'm a New Zealander. I'm leaving because the houses are way too expensive. Sad when I get priced out of the city and county I grew up in.
You know how big is monglia ... Population is low space is quite big still suprised why contract holder cant make some space for parking or Childeren play ground ... Must be corruption
@@minimalisttraveler9337 May I ask where you are moving to? I am just wondering what would be an acceptable replacement for someone who is used to the beauty and all the positives of New Zealand. I’d imagine anywhere else in the world would be inferior for you (except maybe Australia).
@@bloodndestroy two options at the moment. You are correct, Australia is one. While most people think Australia is expensive, New Zealand is far far more expensive to live when comparing overall cost against salaries.
I could not see a single tree which is very sad.
An example on how Laissez-faire and free market forces does not always provide the needs and wants.
Not a fan of high rise building, especially those that destroys the environment.
HIGH RISE BUILDINGS IS AN ECONOMIC GROWTH
HIGH RISE BUILDINGS IS SYMBOL OF ECONOMIC PROGRESS,INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRESS,AND TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS
So these people wish they were living in a yurt instead of a modern apartment?
I doubt it.
I must be missing the point.
Several years ago moved from central UB to that time suburb. In condo where live now enough parking lots, playgrounds. But visible from my balcony mountain range is closed now, too many new apartment blocks across the road from my place. Traffic jam at not only rush hours is terrible. Hope things will be improved within next years since the country is still democratic and voice of ordinary people sometimes reaches decision makers.
I could be wrong, but I think it has to do with money. I feel like companies/individuals build these high rises in order to create large amounts of renting space at a relatively cheap cost.
Also corruption in city governors
They still hold the record for greatest empire conquered in history under GK.
Same here in Malaysia. We are much worst because we are living in a hot humid country. City planners are like capitalists here.
Tall buildings are to save space, but now it's a trend of lavish lifestyle! 😊
Fire the city planner, horrible job not providing any green space. I visited in 1993 when Ulaanbaatar was about a mile long. I could see one end of the city from the other end. This bad city planning is not an improvement at all. Who would want to visit it now? Even NYC which they call a concrete jungle has central park and other green spaces. It’s essential for people‘s well-being.
In Mongolian cities, it's hardly find any factory and tracks running on the street, so what do most of Mongolian people rely on? all depends on goverment's finantial support and payment?
About 16% of the workforce is in government. Construction is a very big sector. There are quite a few factories at the outskirts, many of them food focused. There's an MCS plant to the east, they make many drinks and the official licenser of Coca Cola. TESO, Suu (Milk), Atar, Uguuj, Talh Chiher (bread sweets), Mah Impex are other examples. There are 4 large banks that also employ a lot of people, support the economy and so on.
Darkhan (uul) city, 3rd largest, has a major metallurgical plant that makes steel rebars from scrap metal.
Erdenet, 2nd largest, was basically built from the copper mine there.
There are also efforts to go up the value chain in mining by building a steel factory and other more refining type of works.
@@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 why Mongolia unable to make such as running shoes, jeans, shirts,cups, ramen and so force, there are so many people and jeaps heading for China for buying them, why you can't make them by yourself?
Skyscrapers aren't the problem. It's the lack of proper urban planning and infrastructure to keep up with a burgeoning population is the problem. Same goes for my hometown of Edmonton.. While it was great at planning for parks, transit infrastructure for the city is woefully lacking given the population... And of course, affordable housing... A worldwide issue...
Tall buildings is only for countries that have not enough land
I thought Mongolia was empty outside of Ulaanbaatar, why not let the city sprawl outwards into spacious suburbs like in the USA or Australia?
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Ulaanbaatar is so polluted and crowded
I thought they meant the final frontier...
Монголия не нуждается в чьих-либо советах) это страна независимых, свободолюбивых и степных людей, живущих в довольно жестких климатических условиях) но, это- их земля, это- их воздух, вода и ветер) они сами справятся со всеми трудностями) это мудрый восточный народ)
Мы тоже монголы, стоит не забывать 🙏🏼
Beautiful country
Same here in India'
Genghis Khan must be proud
it s ch
They can learn from my country. We have biggest population and we also love crowding everywhere.
Do you ever regret being born as an Indian in your life?
We are in the same situation. We have too many people and our food isn't enough.
I was born in a secluded county at a time when the world population is just half of today.
This has always been one of my most treasured and happiest memories in my lifetime.
The world today is a tragic place in my eyes.
With haste we move through too short lives. Driven to err by base desires heading toward waste while we live.
That is the sum of our humanity as a whole today.
@@anglo-saxonconnor817 ull regret until ur poor....luckily not everyone's poor in india...
@@deeptanshubhowmik5073 Life for me involve much more than being poor or rich. If you think I will have regrets in these areas you will be disappointed. Also I ask a question not an attack. Your own heart is letting you see what you want to see and is playing you as a plaything.
The city looks like distopian Soviet era city
That’s a really long ban on new construction… that definitely won’t have any negative consequences at all within a growing country.
I get the need for new housing and not wanting high rises but it seems like they could change the focus to low rise apartments ones that are like 4 stories tall and build them around centrally located public parks and small businesses districts to provide a balance of life. Maybe the city also needs a street car public transportation system or a true RTD bus system with its own dedicated driving lanes, they already have the high density needed for a train system now they just need to build it.
it honestly isn't the worst idea when you consider the need of some other cities to grow, particularly erdenet, darkhan, choibalsan... they don't really have these problems as hard if at all especially the density. too bad for poorer people tho, rite?
So... in other words, Tokyo. Where they build buildings first, then the roads.
"Your palace might stand forever, but my yurt can go anywhere"
*Genghis Khan*
Now, Yurt homes facing extinction in Mongolia, replaced by high rise apartment complex.
99% of the country is still available for setting up your yurt
This is the problem with Mongolia and Mongolians in general
We just do things without a plan and the long term consequences are brutal
Mongolia is even less densely populated than australia. Why waste money on high rise building ? Their birth rate was not even high to begin with
Why did you put grey filter to deviate the real color?
Moving from Ulaanbaatar to a mid sized German city I certainly do not miss Ulaanbaatar
Town planning allow by gov. town planners in the past. In Malaysia, there must be greenery, swimming pools each condos, shoplots all. There is no design in the architecture or landscape also. Come live in Malaysia is better environment with skyscrapers also in beautiful designs architectures.
It sounds like the problem is cars. All the public space was converted to car lanes and parking lots. It's time use the economic boom to put in much-needed public transit and implement congestion charging. That way you can return space to humans while continuing to accommodate more residents. Every city that grows fast after the widespread adoption of cars goes through this. Cars are the problem you have to deal with.
If they don't like the neighborhood (it being a concrete jungle and all), why do they even buy those apartments, to begin with? Don't like it, don't buy it. If there's no demand, they won't build... it's that simple!
Let them study the system of concrete jungle in Singapore. Don't blame others, blame yourself for bad planning
This real state scenario is now common to many citizens around the world.... I thought we had this only in Brazil...
Literally the Philippines, a concrete prison where you work, live and spend time in concrete buildings from home to office to shopping malls. Not much parks nor any social and leisure public places.
what is the music?
Planing green areas in proportion of growing urban zone to get balance.
Love UB Mongolia and their people as they are in a class of their own untainted by the wests race gender and identity ideocracy !
i would not even wanna be found dead there , let alone live there.
Love in China as an expat. If I can compliment the country for one thing it is city infrastructure.
Since everyone is moving to the capital, they would have to sprawl out more into the plains if they do not care about keeping them
Not sure if they don't want it but this effect would be similar to the South Korean economic boom during the olympics
Bruh. The least dense country in the world. Only half the population of Mongolia live in Ulaanbaatar. The rest still live in the open space.
99.7% of the whole country is empty.
Just look the sad looking concrete jungle it looks dead without a single tree absolutely no green patch looks depressing & dystopian af
it is cold in Mongolia.
While UB could do better with more green, this was taken in the cold period. The city's a lot greener today in June.
They have so much land and they choose to go up? This is the type of country that could have its capital city be huge and flat and low. Not small, condensed and high up.
I can only imagine that greedy construction companies / governments forced this uppon the people in an effort to generate profits/ work for the workforce. With complete disregard / zero consultation with the people. These buildings destrpy culture and stop Mongolians develiping their own architctural herritage and own path to development.
The Mongols couldn't even manage this problem considering they robbed billions of wealth all over the world during the Mongolian empire era, especially they just got millions of people with vast land. You could use nice adjectives to describe it bu it's a failed country where the most polluted capital city located in, native languages were destroyed by themselves since they adopted Russian alphabets. Unemployment among Young people are very high. That's the reality of this failed Mongolia.