Bento box & SVEA 123R (Perfect Combo Cook Set)...bexbugoutsurvivor
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- Making an all in one cook set, using a Bento Box (German) and the svea123R stove, with room for drink cup and brew making kit....
Best suited for the bushcrafter/field craft, but useable for wild camping and fishing etc....
(This footage was taken from the previous unseen archive footage) I no longer own this stove, but am still looking out for the much better original 123 version.....bexbugoutsurvivor
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TECHNICAL INFO. BROKEN SPINDLE ON STOVE REQUIRES ME TO TURN IT OFF IN THE REVERSE POSITION. MESS TIN WAS A GERMAN POLICE OFFERS BENTO TIN.
That is a real clever find. Very flexible
thanx 4 watchin'...bex
Love that smock, a little bit heavy, but what a great jacket. Nice vid.
Yes me too, l think it's the "Temperate climate " version made of Polycotton
I'm not sure.
Ok.
Thanks for watching!
The Clip is for a Strip to fix the lid. The lid has normaly a longer grip, which also is to snap in the clip to carry the two containers with one hand. Look for BW ( Bundeswehr) Kochgeschirr (cookware). Greetings from Germany
It was a gift from a friend, so came with some parts missing....bex
Always liked that stove. Must keep an eye out for one.
Given the choice I wish I had bought the original 60s version, the R version has too many unnecessary moving parts to go wrong....bex
Thanks bud always little tidbit of useful info stay safe
You bet
Clever wee find that Bex!!
Keep em coming man.👍
Thanks 👍
Hello Bex and I like your setup and it looks very flexible for winter and summer camping . Thanks for sharing and all the best
Thanks for watching! I need to find the original svea stove from the 60s, far more reliable.....all the best...bex
Bex , looks like a good setup , I wouldn't have thought the stove would fit , I hope this finds you well my friend , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Hello Bex,
Just an update on the Pea Coat, the label inside the pocket says: JOBA WAGHAUSEL and is dated 9/78 it is 100% wool according to the same item on the internet. It also has eight buttons not six as previously stated. I'm trying to be as precise and accurate as you.
It saves a lot of time, ok hope l haven't bored everyone to tears!
Have nice day !
Your gonna love that pea-coat in these colder months...bex
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Thanks for your reply.
I think it's warmer than the North Face though my North Face is 41 years old and has lost almost half it's feathers although the hood is as new, as I've said. I can't wear the hood with the Pea coat, mind you, you would if you were really cold!?
Ok take care.
Love the Svea!
Nice lil winter stove....
Great way to go. I use the Swedish Stainless Mess kit for mine. Even have room for a cheap foil windscreen. I don't have the Svea, I have the Lixada S Steel version, with the quiet cap. ( per your review, lol ). Got my stove from Lixada at about half the price of a Svea here. Keep the videos coming, Atb from St. Louis MO.
Betcha the Lixada SS is the way to go, looks more robust. I swapped the 123R for the BRS 12, but it isn't as compact, when petrol is ideal for winter camps....atb bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor I was looking at the BRS-12 the SVEA 123R and the Lixada SS again. I like my MSR Whisperlite, 30 years old and still going strong but I suffer from numb hands (probably Raynauds & too many birthdays LOL) so an all in one petrol stove might be better for me now plus when you take the combined weight/bulk of the Whisperlite stove, fuel pump and fuel bottle there's not much advantage over an all in one stove.
The SVEA is out of my price range so that leaves the BRS-12 or Lixada SS, the BRS-12 seems to be very slightly wider (10mm?) but a fair bit taller (50mm or thereabouts) and heavier. In your experience comparing the self priming SVEA and the BRS-12 regarding ease of use/performance/simmer control what are the pro's/con's. Cheers.
one of the joys of cooksystems is experimenting with different combo's. been ruminating on my set up today. trangia 27 frypan married to a esbit stove of some kind. I'm constantly fighting lightweight against utility.. ie, burning the food because the metals thin as fk. I did buy a double walled mug recently, only its saving grace is its downfall. although good in it doesn't burn your lips off when you take a drink, it falls down because part of the joy of having a brew is warming your hands with the cup on a cold day.. you just can't win sometimes..
Maybe pre cooked (boil in the bag) meals in air tight mylar will prevent pot/pan burning, then you only need a tall pot and a stove. That style of lazy man camp cooking, inspired me to reuse the jetboil. On saying that I have a whole room full of stoves, pots/pans/windshields, and becomes an unhealthy obsession of collecting, finding the best nesting sets...lol
Nice lunch box. I have a surplus Russian version. Very handy.
perhaps a small petrol stove could fits your too, for these colder times....bex
Hi Bex, nice set-up, I like all my cooking kit in one place. I wouldn't have thought the SVEA would have fitted but it fits like it was designed for it. The SVEA is a nice stove, looks a bit like the Optimus Climber from back in the day. I like the coleman style stove you have with the fold out feet though. It'll be interesting to see how the bread bake goes. Cheers.
Thanks for watching! Really good nesting option. The original 123 version I think is far better than this Optimus R version made in Taiwan, the self cleaning needle has given me nothing but trouble. I will acquire a used 123 version for next years solo camping I think...bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor I would guess an older original would be better. I've been looking at my cook systems today, a key element is whether you carry water with the cook system or on it's own, whether you carry it in the pack or external, whether you want accessible on the move or not when solo and whether you prefer bottle or bladder. I prefer a bottle, 58 Patt & plastic mug/ Dutch army Issue & stainless mug/1l Nalgene & Large Swedish folding mug
My options as far as the cooker goes are, BCB & Gel Blocks, mk1 Crusader base unit and Gel (or meths) and Trangia burner with the cross type pot support, for gas I can choose from Jetboil Sol ti (basically a regular Jetboil with a shorter ti pot), a micro gas cannister stove (same as your's with 3 fold out supports) and .a Primus Express Spider (tripod stove with gas pre-heat) I have an old style MSR Whisperlite and a Chinese stove similar to the one you had problems with but I consider the petrol stoves as specialist extreme cold weather stoves and the weight bulk doesn't matter, it is what it is and the Primus Express Spider pretty much falls into that category but it's compact enough to use year round.
My biggest complaint about the Jetboil or any system stove is that you can't combine water bottle and cook system, plus they're expensive considering they're only really suitable for boiling water or reheating a wet pack even with the additional pot support but the micro gas stove won't be much better for actual cooking considering how concentrated the flame pattern is, probably worse than the Jetboil. With the water bottle carried externally it solves one of the Jetboil's limitations. Anyway, need to look at the options and see where it leads. Until next time, Thanks and ATB
If one is trekking on a well known trail and well mapped, and we can find accessible water, we can carry a small amount of water inorder to rehydrate during the day trek. If however one treks to unknown locations, we will need to carry a full 24 hour supply. From personal experience Military plce bergens don't carry water well, weather its be bottles or hydration bags, unlike civilian packs that I find are designed to carry water, more comfortably. I find using 2 ltre LRRP best for bergens, and bottles or hydro bags are both suitable for civvy packs.
Any cook system must be adaptable to be used with natural fire cooking, if/when gas or gel blocks run out. Cook systems are far too unique to the individuals requirements, for us all to be lumped into the logic it is a one size fits all world. If one uses boil in the bag rations only, then the jetboil comes into its own, and the neoprene sleeve can be removed for fire cooking. If the preferable option is to do open pot cooking, then one must adapt their cook kit to that style of cooking. I have not yet seen a set that successfully houses the pot the stove the fuel and the water. If the cook set is designed to house the water, usually the stove would need to carried separately, and vis versa if the stove is stowed in a nesting set, then the water is carried separately. Other options to combine everything all in one, can sometimes be unworkable regarding space saving and ease to carry. There is an upcoming quick tips demonstrating how I carry the LRRP in conjunction with all packs, which does not alter the load carriage or dynamics of the pack, unlike bottles or camlebaks.....b
@@bexbugoutsurvivor Agree 100% a lot comes down to personal preference or individual requirement, a leisure situation being different from a tactical or stealth situation. I have basically 2 ways of combining water and cook system,
A. 58 Patt bottle and mug, mk1 Crusader cooker and mug which I can run on Gel blocks or Meths, that all goes into a PLCE ulility pouch together with spork/spoon, lighter, ferro rod and gel blocks (meths needs carried separately) at a push twigs will burn in the crusader cooker if a campfire isn't an option, the 58 patt/crusader set-up works for wet packs or dehydrated.
B.1l Nalgene, 750ml pot & Lid, Swedish large folding mug, that goes in what I think you referred to as an O2 pouch, spork/spoon goes in the main compartment, swedish mug goes on top of the nalgene, the front pocket can carry a BCB stove + gel blocks or a Trangia burner fuelled up and a 250ml bottle of meths or a 200g gas cannister and micro stove plus lighter and ferro rod, that makes for a comprehensive and versatile set-up for wet packs and dehydrated meals.
There's 1000 way to go about it, I'm just thinking a shorter wider pot (saucepan style rather than mug style) or army mess tins are an option that change everything, maybe getting the rations out of the pack and into the pot which saves space in the pack, space that could be used for a bigger stove/more fuel. Moving the water to a separate pouch either in or outside the pack opens up many possibilities, as you mention a hydro bag is a good option to add additional water as required and can be carried in a small dump pouch together with a personal filter like a sawyer and can be carried rolled until required. Always interesting to see your set-up, your methods in general aren't identical to mine but close enough that it wouldn't be a problem for me to adopt your way of operating, I've ordered a molle battle belt to fit to my pack having seen your set-up, it looks to be a good option and again versatile, just add the pouches as and when needed.
Plenty of options, I'll keep an eye on your uploads for inspiration, Thanks Again.
Nice one Bex, I've a set of those tins but never used them. Got to rectify that. That little burner looks cool gona get me one of them. Thanks for sharing, always helpful your videos. ATB Dave
If I could rebuy this stove again, I would go for a the original 123 version (pre-loved) the R version with self cleaning needle has a lot of problems, and too many moving parts that cost a lot to replace. The original 123 version is so much more user friendly, and fewer moving parts to replace.....all the best bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor cheers Bex much appreciated 😊 Dave
I got a svea 123 stove .it may winter stove in my opinion one of the best stove for altitude and Cold wether 👍👍 good video again
Nice 👍 Although I think this R version is terrible, for the same money the original version is far superior imo atb...bex
I stuff my Svea123 stove into an old sock, and use it as a make shift stuff sack. That would protect the bottom of your pot.
.hindsight a wonderful thing...
SWEET SET UP AND A BIT OF LUCK FITTING INSIDE THAT MESS TIN THE JOB LOT KEEPS EVERYTHING COMPACT I LIKE THE STOVE IS IT QUITE OLD SCHOOL BEX NOT SEEN ONE BEFORE...👌👌
The original svea stove is from the early 60s, my version is the svea R, which is the remake, made in Taiwan and not as reliable...all the best bex
Great Cooker! Bread should be Something Nice on a Cold Day. Maybe with Some Butter and Jam! Cheers from Swansea SC.
Sounds great! The oven conversion is pretty straight forward too....bex
That Hawk might be your Spirit Animal Bex, or maybe it just fancied yer hot chocolate lol. Peace brother.
I like the idea of the spirit guild. I have been around these buzzards for a few years, and seen their chicks grow and have their own family. They seem to know me well now. Think my spirit guild would be something a lot more lazy...lol
Nice setup. The 123R flame was quite yellow even when cooking? I love the 'pulsing' of the 123's Bomb proof setup
Yellow flame indicates not primed enough. Am swapping mine out to the original vintage 123 version made in Sweden. The pulsing may a sign to change the wick, that pulsing will cause it to candle in the off position over time, and parts are as expensive...atb bex
@@bexbugoutsurvivor Bad choice of words on my behalf. I meant the 'chugging' sound all 123's make when running.
Thanks for this video, i have same jacket but i cant find anywere manzise tousers for it, they are extra rare....
Nice little kit. The Svea stove looks great too , What fuel does it run on?
Runs on petrol. I use (Aspen 4 lawn mower fuel)...petrol stoves are better in colder times....Atb bex
White camp fuel( Coleman) stateside??🇺🇸
Bex, German mess set, there is a lid with a handle and an inner kidney dish.
It was a gift from a friend....
@@bexbugoutsurvivor great for making a stew or soup. I use mine everyday as my.lunchbox :)
@@bexbugoutsurvivor On similar mess tins there's a leather belt etc that holds the mess tin and lid closed together so any bits don't fall out. It goes through the loop part you pointed to.
"might have a brew" I've never yet seen you not have a brew.
I think you might be right...lol
New copy: the lixada gasoline stove, stainless steel... Yes, small burner. I use the dutch mess tins..now in stainless steel...50 grams extra...
Stainless steel is far better, the weight penalty is worth it....
Thank you for the video. Is the mess kit Swedish ? Out of interest how long will the fuel in the stove last for - wondering how much extra you may have to carry for say a night camp rather than a 1 day ramble ? Keep up the good work
The mess tin is the German Bento lunch box. The fuel will last about 50 minutes on full. Brings water to a boil in about 7 minutes, works out about 7 boils per tank. My jetboil gas powered unit holds about 14 boils, and my BRS 12 (petrol) & my colemans 553 (petrol), seems to run for weeks, but is far heavier than this smaller brass Svea R stove...all the best bex
Hello Bex,
I hope you're ok,
Just watched your "Great Coat" video,
I really like those,
Reminded me of my
German pea coat,
Coincidentally I've just started wearing it, it's got six gold buttons it's double breasted l think it's 70's or 80's, really nice quality and very warm.
I even washed it in the washing machine! Which did no harm at all. I think it's 100% wool,
I got it about 20years ago, it may have been £40, it fits perfectly.
It occurred to me if they use them on ships they must be pretty weather proof
I think the richer the nation the better the quality of their issued kit, obvious really. I will see if the date is readable and let you know.
Also my favourite boots are the British army DMS high legs, you can't even find 2nd hand ones now.
Ok take care Bex.
The richer the nation the better the quality of their issued kit, is a really good criteria to buy quality. Also buying cold weather kit from countries that are actually cold, stands to reason also. Take care mate. bex
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Yes !
I’ve got a bento box 👍
Very under rated bit of kit, second only to the German army version, only because the handle stands up right, "No more third degree burns on my fingers"...lol
bex bugoutsurvivor i think mine is German vintage
Love to spend a week with you pal in woods, on the Isle of Wight we’re I liv ,but not in a a gay way 🤪 top bloke and excellent tips and equipment you show. Cheers pal 👍
Always my pleasure sir. But not in a gay way...😍
@@bexbugoutsurvivor excellent 😂😂😂
It's looking like a Japanese mess tin i have a old Japanese mess tin but it won't fit the Swiss wind screen
It's the German police lunch box, will fit the Svea.
Hate the 123. Sounds like an F-18 in flight. Threw mine in the trash years ago.
That's why I bought a silent damper silencer for mine years ago...lol
I love the jet noise. It’s part of the nostalgia for me.