Just make a black box so the megalive 2 can work with the helix. If not im afraid humminbirds going to be losing a lot of customers. Especially since most us was loyal/dumb enough to think you would do us right.
Yep. I have a g4n helix 10 at the consel & a 9 g4n in the front. I'm not going to buy a whole new setup. I guess I'll go Garmin and just run livescope separate and keep the helix for SI ect...
Its not that our current setups are obsolete, its that you cant just keep adding to your One Boat Network which we already bought into. This is exciting but frustrating for users with boats full of products already.
@@jonmartinez1855 Xplore 9" msi are listed on the swedish distributers website and priced at 25 995SEK (=2500USD). Can only hope thats wrong but probably not.
Cool story. Did you buy your old stuff or are you a pro staffer who gets freebies or at least extreme discounts? Us regulars who have Helix and Live 1 are left screwed over with no options other than upgrading or switching to Garmin. Garmin it is.
I really like my helix g4 units. I haven't bought into ffs yet. Now, if (when) i do, I'll just go with garmin for that specifically and keep running the helix units for 2d, si, di, mapping.
I'm excited about that waypoint management, I'm also glad there are more options for waypoint graphics to easily decipher between my reason for way pointing.
Has humminbird been acquired by bud light? It seems so because humminbird does not seem to care about their core”helix” customers. I have purchased over $7,500 worth of humminbird helix products as well as mega live and mega 360. So if humminbird wants to turn all my helix products into “legacy units” I will turn humminbird into a “legacy” company. Hello garmin hope you are as good as “Modelo “
I've used Humminbird electronics for over 20 years and my boat has several Helix's Gen 4 and 3's on the console to the bow including mega live! Watching this video really pisses me off because now I feel like I'm using a out of date piece of junk with no more updates!! I'm not a happy customer- Humminbird should show us Helix's users some respect and take care of us because we might not be customers in the future!
I just had my entire boat rewired with all 4 of my Helix units plus a new transom pole for the mega live, several thousand dollars I would have never spent if Humminbird would have given a little heads up on getting rid of the Helix's units. That's a lot of money if I want to change all my units plus installation!!@randyjamesrobertson
@@dsperformancechip But I do not need to see the fins and any fish Mega Live does not pick up is too small for me anyway. The 2 system guys are just silly. I know you are using Humminbird mapping.
Who cares about looks, how does it compare side by side to Garmin... I have MegaLive1 and so regret that purchase. Now I regret it more knowing I would have to buy ML2 and my GN4 Helix will not work with it. I will buy Garmin before I buy another bird...
Yep loyal customer for 30 t years. My current boat 7k worth of electronics plus minkota products. Now all my equipment ive purchased in the last 4 years is being thrown under the bus with me. New boat next year will definitely be something other than hb. Share holders Can destroy a good co. Inthe name of profit over product
Hopefully these are priced fairly, especially for all of those who are in the Helix ecosystem right now. It's a shame a lot of people have to buy new head units to use megalive 2
Xplore is priced very competitively with the price of HELIX, with all of the added advancements. They will range from $1,299.99 - $2,699.99. You can learn more here: humminbird.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/shop/fish-finders/xplore
Just read thru 125 Comments and thought I would put my 2 cents in. I have owed boats for 30 years. Always had mid level Electronics.. had Humminbirds from the 90's, Lowrance, a couple of Garmins as tone went on Went back to Humminbird about 8 years ago wirh a little Helix 5 for hardwater andnopen water and for rhe last 3 years i have a Helix 10MSI.. gotta say I absolutely love it. My curiosity was up with live sonar after fishing in others boats that had livescope. I added mega live 1, did the updates and it works great. I dont use FFS very often , but no issues. At this point i just dont get why people are getting upset that most helix are getting discontinued.. Stop acting like they are worthless just because they introduced new units... this happensvall the time in the electronics world. I bet many of you have no problem shelling out a grand or more every 2 years for a new cell phone.....what are we on now...I phone twenty something?. Over the years i have had a few mishaps with humminbird and minn kota products...and was impressed with the customer service... Lowrance woulddnt touch a 1.5 year old unit that they said was too old to fix and lost me as a customer. Heck. Many people pay a premium every 3 or so years and get a new car because they just gotta have the new tech. If Garmin or Lowrance did this and made a new high tech unit with all these maps and user friendly... you would be askjng..why not Humminbird? It seems to me that as a general rule these days... Electronics are about 10% of what a new boat cost. Seems like a $30k boat had $3k in electronics. An $80k boat has $8k in electronics.. so the price points of the new units are on par. If this is so awful the lets fire up the Old Super 60, Green Box, and grab your stack of Hotspots Maps. (I actually do this sometimes) Just trying to put things in perspective.. if you still think your Helix is obsolete worthless junk...i would be happy to take a 10G4 off your hands for a few hundred bucks!
I disagree, don’t accept bs because you are use to accepting bs...tech industry shouldn’t be pulling this mess its wasting the world’s resources. They know damn well they can manufacture products in a way that they can be upgraded easily rather than complete replacement. Secondly TVs and cars have nothing to do with confidence which is a big part of fishing, those in the fishing industry should know this and factor in loyalty vs $$....this time they chose $$.
Hopefully they do something for the ones that have helix. I bought two new helix graphs with live last year. Now this? Wish I knew they were coming out with this last year.
I'm a diehard Helix fan, and I'm stunned that Humminbird would drop this entire line. How about putting the Xplore technology into the new G5 Helix line? What about the people that don't want MEGA LIVE 2, or forward facing sonar??? Xplore better take into consideration the ice fishing community, or Garmin will be happy with the people that will jump ship.I think Humminbird shot themselves in the foot on this one.
Helix 5/7 are still available, so they didn't drop the entire line. Also, Helix came out in 2015, so I think they're justified in making some changes. It's likely that Helix doesn't have the capacity for touch screen. People who don't want FFS can still grab an Xplore for around the same original SRP that Helix had.
You don’t pay for shit. The ones paying for your freebies (us) are now screwed. We now how to update EVERYTHING to run live2. Garmin is laughing all the way to the bank now. ✌️ out Humminbird.
The new mega live wont work on Helix but in this video i really didnt see much about mega live 2 that has change. Also the One boat network does not link mapping i have to purchase each lake or did that change? With Garmin i get all maps with the unit and on the Active captain on my phone for FREE.
Mega Live 2 is more than double the Hz output from the first ML- which equates to seeing fish and your bait farther out. In forward mode, you will see both fish and your bait past 100 ft which the first Mega Live could not achieve. Redesigned mount for versatility, finer angle adjustments, 15 color palettes, new features in landscape mode and the list goes on. Helix could not share mapping, but every Xplore unit will include a Lakemaster map card and can share to another Xplore, Solix G3 or Apex.
@@flawsee8456 Is this mapping include to the phone app for free? That i one thing made me turn away from the One boat app doesn't allow the map to be shared.
I bought your 1st model, in production, because ya'll were in Eufaula. Think I got it from Kmart, or Bass Pro Shops catalogue. I qualified, in 88&89 NC State Championships, BASS. Think I had an Eagle flasher, when I bought my 1st Bass Boat. Bass Tracker 1, at Bass Pro Shop, in Springfield Missouri Christmas, of 84. On my trip back from NAS Weymouth Mass., too Cherry Point NC. PCS Orders, after 3 year duty station.
I can't find the weight of the fish finders on your website. Can you guys please add that to the spec sheet? Curious how much this thing weighs. How much stress it's going to have on my console, Thank you
Think they are issuing refunds for mega line 1? Considering the marketing was clearly not accurate with the product in the real world and it’s sitting on everyone’s shelves in their garage right now because they switched to garmins? Thanks Humminbird, went from 3 helix on my boat to 1. Never again.
Not in SI, DI, 360, GPS, Networking, follow contour. Garmin only had Live and I question that now with Live 2.0(see the videos being released on TH-cam). That is until Garmin releases the next $2000 version of Livescope. There is only so much you can gain with live until 360 live. But wait, does Garmin have 360?
@ Garmin has 1200 kHz side and down imaging. They haven’t used 800 in like 4 years. And even that 800 was hard to beat. I’m assuming you’ve never owned a Garmin.
@@Honks34 I own both and only use my Garmins with the LVS34. I own pretty much everything Garmin (Hunting, Health products, watch, etc ) but honestly, their mapping and DI/SI isn't even close to humminbird. It pains me to say that but it's true.
Can you imagine just buying a helix that costs thousands waiting on the new generation of mega live just to find out it's useless and you wasted your money. Transparency is a must with customers instead of luring them with Black Friday deals as a money grab for outdated units. Build an external processor and make this right with loyal customers. BTW if this happened to you it would be much cheaper just to go with Garmin or Lowrance. It still dosen't compete with Garmin from the appearance in this video.
@@jonmartinez1855you may get a new phone every two years . Not me. I am retired on a fixed income. Invested 8 k in last two years for electronics and now these are legacy units
I love humminbird products, but man if I’m going to have to buy a whole new set up… Why not just make they switch to Garmin? Helix customers really got screwed on this deal.
Does the Explore draw more battery power compared to a similar sized Helix ? Here's something I've mentioned before...adding Side Imagining to the mapping screen would be amazing....like auto chart does.
Loved the Helix for SI, but what’s the point of buying something for that price when you get a better product with the OG 2015 Garmin panoptix? Garmin FFS, Bird everything else
@ still use the 2017 OG panoptix for my FFS on the boat now. Bought it for ice fishing and just rig it on the boat in the summer. Not as easy to find your bait but still shows bottom comp, and if it’s a fishy area or not
I’m not so sure I’m running to the company that is trying to sell me something but one of the first things they both say is that they’ve been using said company forever. I get it but in todays day, I wanna hear from the guy that uses it all.
Two features that I would love to see in new units. #1) Never brick your unit. If anything fails ... an update, a reboot, whatever, have a hardware reset button on the back of the case that reimages the unit to a known good image so you don't have to mail in a bricked unit (unless there is hardware damage). Macintosh has had this in their OS for decades. #2) assigned software meaning to either the waypoint icons and/or colors. Meaning, I could tell the system "delete any green icon" after it is X hours/days old. So, can put any 'temporary' icons in green or use the baitfish icon and know they won't be on the system forever. Personally, I mark structure with Red or Yellow. Then when I go out for the day, I'll mark fish in blue/green/purple. Next time I go out I'll click on each Blue/green/purple icon and delete them manually. All of this said, the XPlore looks nice and I'll end up buying one soon.
Still running lowrance hds carbon, never jumped over to live or pro, because I just wasn't impressed. I definitely will be switching to hummingbird explore, well done guys!
I have M360 and three helix 12 units. In fact, I bought a gen4 helix 12 earlier this year. Now ML2 comes out and I can't use it with out buying an xplore. Glad I have Garmin for my bow live unit. Based on the HB promo video, Garmin still seems superior. Once Garmin comes out with their next gen of live, I'll be investing in that without needing to also buy another expensive graph I don't need. Humminbird still has most of the wallet share in my boat - just not live.
I have used Humminbird for over 25 years and the new Xplorer locks absolutely fantastic, but Mega 2 seems like too much hype. The simulation looks fantastic but the real footage of it being used doesn't look any different than what I already have. The simulations never reflect what it really looks like for real usage. Just from what I have seen.
@@peterlong9629 maybe but why GEN 4 no difference to GEN 3. I have over 20000 $ Humminbird on my Boat and I cant use Mega Live 2 ? Sorry then I go with Garmin !
@@thomaswalus7608 The answer to your question, if you want it, is at Humminbird Customer Service, which I am not. You might want to ask some questions about Garmin though...
Products look awesome, but so did MegaLive 1 and now my entire setup is "obsolete". If I could use it with Helix, this would be a no brainer for me, but completely starting over with my setup would be a steep investment. Unfortunately, ML2 looks comparable to LVS34, maybe a little better based on these controlled presentations. With the recent mass discounts on Garmin products over Black Friday, there is no doubt in my mind that LVS34 is being replaced with something even better. I just think HB is going to stay one-step behind the competition in the FFS game and it is going to be hard for me to trust that I am getting a comparable product in ML2. That being said, Xplore looks awesome and incorporates several of the features I was praying for a Helix update to bring.
@ This is pretty common in electronics, you see it in the photography industry too. But where my frustration comes is that I had the trust that HB wouldn’t just push out a FFS that was sub-par to the competitors, which ML1 absolutely was when it came out. Then the updates kept improving it and I believed that it was just a software problem that HB seemed motivated to fix with the constant updates.
@@josheddy6905 and so we were lead down that path (software update) only to be mugged, robbed, beaten and left for dead as better victims with deep pockets come along tor the evil empire to stalk. Beware the electronic footpaths as there lurks thieves who would deceive you and rob you of your hard earned coin.
I have the first gen Mega Live and it's not good. I'm hoping that Humminbird will help it's customer out by offering a trade in program for the new Mega Live 2.
Looks to be $1,500 for megalive 2 transducer, and 1,500 for an Xplore 9. Not bad. Anyone know if anything else is needed for ice fishing, bedsides a shuttle, battery and pole?
I am mega pissed I purchased mega live. I have 3 helix 12s, a helix 10 and mega 360. My buddies have Lowrance and garmin ffs, when I fish in their boats -I am mega regretting my purchase the entire time.
Spent 7k on helix g4ns last year thinking they will have updates to make them compatible. Waited forever assuming humminbird would finally announce new mega live that could actually compete with my buddies garmins. Im not going out and spending 10 grand on units only for them to release a mega live 3 a few years later cause number 2 still cant compete with garmin. Youve lost a 20 year loyal customer and probably many others.😢
Can you change your chart map pointer to black? The think I dislike the most about my Helix is I can't see the !@#@#!#@ pointer. Meanwhile I can see my Lowrance pointer all the way across the boat. I hope Humminbird was smart enough to give the user the option to change the pointer color.
Sounds great, hope that worth it. Mega live 1 was a piece of sh*t, sold it and forgot.)) Time will show. Will ML2 work with Helix Gen3? Any additional "black box" needed to work with or directly through ethernet interface like ML1?
It will not work with any of the Helix models. The processing power of the transducers inside the head units. Helix uses single core processors. These new ones have quad core processors. No black box
I can understand getting rid of the Helix line, the last few generations have had lots of problems. I know l have had multiple problems with multiple units to the point where I really just want to rid myself of them. All the new stuff sounds great but if it has a bunch of problems then what’s the point?
Yup im switching to Garmin. Way cheaper than going brand new units. This mega live2 is only best catered to existing users of the slowlex and the apex models. I aint buying no new XPLORE since i just bought my G4N Helix units thinking software updates would help with my mega live. This is just a bad move Humminbird. I am selling my units and going GARMIN.
Humminbird not the brightest, if I have to upgrade my electronics might as well just go with Garmin at that point, lol. Great business decision there...*cough* one boat network, lmao.
More sales HYPE, how about actual engineering/test results... I have MegaLive1, lure tracking sucks.... 1/8oz jig can be seen up 33', coming and going on display. What will ML2 display a 1/8oz out to???
what is the size of lure? I meet the same problem. I cast 6-7in soft baits and max you can see is 46'. This is the main problem of ML1, on lvs these is no problem 70 > 80'
Prepare for again Hummingbird over marketing and under delivering. I trusted them on my current setup and went all out Humminbird. System is figity, underperforms and still brand new My next system is not Humminbird. To much promise and not enough performance. The other two brands are just miles and miles ahead
This is just wrong. If you actually look at a boat ramp instead of believing the posts, most people have Humminbird on their boat. Great product. If you want 2nd best overall system go to Garmin. Humminbird has the best overall system. period.
Yeah they over promised with mega live and are now abandoning any updates for it or any functionality for the helix owners for their new hardware. Good job guys. 20+ year user of hummingbird I’ll be switching to garmin. They have far better customer support.
@@joeljaros4509maybe he is not a Garmin guy but what is true that is true… i’m using both but this megalive2 nowhere close to lvs34… The only things what is really better in humminbird that is the sidescan... except mega360 but this isn’t availiable at Garmin
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Just make a black box so the megalive 2 can work with the helix. If not im afraid humminbirds going to be losing a lot of customers. Especially since most us was loyal/dumb enough to think you would do us right.
Yep. I have a g4n helix 10 at the consel & a 9 g4n in the front. I'm not going to buy a whole new setup. I guess I'll go Garmin and just run livescope separate and keep the helix for SI ect...
Agree!
I agree. I have a Helix 12 G4N and a Helix 15 G4N and I'm not buying a whole new setup either.
I’ll be switching to Garmin
Helix doesn't have the processing power to run ml2. It's outdated. Upgrade with the times.
Its not that our current setups are obsolete, its that you cant just keep adding to your One Boat Network which we already bought into. This is exciting but frustrating for users with boats full of products already.
Id be so pissed.
For the price of the 12 inch I can just get the Garmin SV126 Ultra 2.
Humminbird playing catch up to Garmin still. 😂
Yea my LVS34 looks better than what I saw here
Same.
The new waypoint management options are awesome and being able to export them to my phone with the click of a button is HUGE
I was waiting for this release, have 3 helix G3 on my boat, going with Garmin for FFS, Thanks.
You’re better off anyway. Better product and way better customer service.
I bet this unit will be out of the working man’s price range
Several thousands
Someware around 2500USD (25995SEK) for the 9" in sweden so yep... quess I will keep my Helix 9" units a few more years 😁
Garmin really has humminbird bent over the couch….. grateful I made the switch..
BPS and Scheels are ready leaked the price. It is in their new catalogs Xplore starts at 1299 and $1499 for Live 2.
@@jonmartinez1855 Xplore 9" msi are listed on the swedish distributers website and priced at 25 995SEK (=2500USD). Can only hope thats wrong but probably not.
Excited to be able to talk about this now!! Let Gooooooo!!
I was able to test the new Xplore & MEGA Live 2 a few months ago. 🔥Super fast and easy to use!
How was it compared to lvs34?
Garbage
Cool story. Did you buy your old stuff or are you a pro staffer who gets freebies or at least extreme discounts? Us regulars who have Helix and Live 1 are left screwed over with no options other than upgrading or switching to Garmin. Garmin it is.
Cant wait to see all the pros still using garmin for FFS🤣
Unfortunately for Lowrance & Humminbird, I think they're always gonna be in a fight for 2nd place in the live sonar world.
I really like my helix g4 units. I haven't bought into ffs yet. Now, if (when) i do, I'll just go with garmin for that specifically and keep running the helix units for 2d, si, di, mapping.
Thats exactly what im gonna do. Then when the side imaging needs to be replaced ill decide wetjer to stick with humminbird or go all garmin
I'm excited about that waypoint management, I'm also glad there are more options for waypoint graphics to easily decipher between my reason for way pointing.
Has humminbird been acquired by bud light? It seems so because humminbird does not seem to care about their core”helix” customers. I have purchased over $7,500 worth of humminbird helix products as well as mega live and mega 360. So if humminbird wants to turn all my helix products into “legacy units” I will turn humminbird into a “legacy” company. Hello garmin hope you are as good as “Modelo “
I've used Humminbird electronics for over 20 years and my boat has several Helix's Gen 4 and 3's on the console to the bow including mega live! Watching this video really pisses me off because now I feel like I'm using a out of date piece of junk with no more updates!! I'm not a happy customer- Humminbird should show us Helix's users some respect and take care of us because we might not be customers in the future!
I am like you boat full of hummingbird products . 8 k down the drain. I am pissed off too.
I just had my entire boat rewired with all 4 of my Helix units plus a new transom pole for the mega live, several thousand dollars I would have never spent if Humminbird would have given a little heads up on getting rid of the Helix's units. That's a lot of money if I want to change all my units plus installation!!@randyjamesrobertson
Love the ease of waypoint management and export.
Its a serious game changer!
Happy Monday Everyone! Looking forward to this!
Thank you for joining!
We’re here for it!!
Man this looks killer. That Mega live 2👀
Nowhere close to lvs34…
@@dsperformancechip But I do not need to see the fins and any fish Mega Live does not pick up is too small for me anyway. The 2 system guys are just silly. I know you are using Humminbird mapping.
@@dsperformancechipyeah you can really tell that
Who cares about looks, how does it compare side by side to Garmin... I have MegaLive1 and so regret that purchase. Now I regret it more knowing I would have to buy ML2 and my GN4 Helix will not work with it. I will buy Garmin before I buy another bird...
When GB COMING out the closet 😂Disney kids
Yep loyal customer for 30 t years. My current boat 7k worth of electronics plus minkota products. Now all my equipment ive purchased in the last 4 years is being thrown under the bus with me. New boat next year will definitely be something other than hb. Share holders Can destroy a good co. Inthe name of profit over product
Dont forget about you ethernet dongle cable. lol
@@j-firstandlast7909 agreed. Same here bye bye birdie!
Whew! I’m glad I held off on my new boat purchase. It was loaded up with mega live and three Helix units. I would have been stupid pissed.
Hopefully these are priced fairly, especially for all of those who are in the Helix ecosystem right now. It's a shame a lot of people have to buy new head units to use megalive 2
I'm actually pretty happy with the prices of the new products. Good job humminbird
Xplore is priced very competitively with the price of HELIX, with all of the added advancements. They will range from $1,299.99 - $2,699.99. You can learn more here: humminbird.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/shop/fish-finders/xplore
Makes Helix system worth very little.
Just read thru 125 Comments and thought I would put my 2 cents in. I have owed boats for 30 years. Always had mid level Electronics.. had Humminbirds from the 90's, Lowrance, a couple of Garmins as tone went on Went back to Humminbird about 8 years ago wirh a little Helix 5 for hardwater andnopen water and for rhe last 3 years i have a Helix 10MSI.. gotta say I absolutely love it. My curiosity was up with live sonar after fishing in others boats that had livescope. I added mega live 1, did the updates and it works great. I dont use FFS very often , but no issues. At this point i just dont get why people are getting upset that most helix are getting discontinued.. Stop acting like they are worthless just because they introduced new units... this happensvall the time in the electronics world. I bet many of you have no problem shelling out a grand or more every 2 years for a new cell phone.....what are we on now...I phone twenty something?. Over the years i have had a few mishaps with humminbird and minn kota products...and was impressed with the customer service... Lowrance woulddnt touch a 1.5 year old unit that they said was too old to fix and lost me as a customer. Heck. Many people pay a premium every 3 or so years and get a new car because they just gotta have the new tech. If Garmin or Lowrance did this and made a new high tech unit with all these maps and user friendly... you would be askjng..why not Humminbird? It seems to me that as a general rule these days... Electronics are about 10% of what a new boat cost. Seems like a $30k boat had $3k in electronics. An $80k boat has $8k in electronics.. so the price points of the new units are on par. If this is so awful the lets fire up the Old Super 60, Green Box, and grab your stack of Hotspots Maps. (I actually do this sometimes)
Just trying to put things in perspective.. if you still think your Helix is obsolete worthless junk...i would be happy to take a 10G4 off your hands for a few hundred bucks!
I disagree, don’t accept bs because you are use to accepting bs...tech industry shouldn’t be pulling this mess its wasting the world’s resources. They know damn well they can manufacture products in a way that they can be upgraded easily rather than complete replacement. Secondly TVs and cars have nothing to do with confidence which is a big part of fishing, those in the fishing industry should know this and factor in loyalty vs $$....this time they chose $$.
Hopefully they do something for the ones that have helix. I bought two new helix graphs with live last year. Now this? Wish I knew they were coming out with this last year.
Hyped!
I'm a diehard Helix fan, and I'm stunned that Humminbird would drop this entire line. How about putting the Xplore technology into the new G5 Helix line? What about the people that don't want MEGA LIVE 2, or forward facing sonar??? Xplore better take into consideration the ice fishing community, or Garmin will be happy with the people that will jump ship.I think Humminbird shot themselves in the foot on this one.
Helix 5/7 are still available, so they didn't drop the entire line. Also, Helix came out in 2015, so I think they're justified in making some changes. It's likely that Helix doesn't have the capacity for touch screen. People who don't want FFS can still grab an Xplore for around the same original SRP that Helix had.
The Explore graph is the fastest and most user friendly unit I have ever seen! Paired with megalive 2 you don't miss anything!
LOL, you should be a salesman. HBird trying to catch up to what Garmin already has...
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You don’t pay for shit. The ones paying for your freebies (us) are now screwed. We now how to update EVERYTHING to run live2. Garmin is laughing all the way to the bank now. ✌️ out Humminbird.
They gonna have to compete w Garmin prices period! I'm upset my helix gen 4 won't work w this ML2 just as everyone else in the same boat.
The new mega live wont work on Helix but in this video i really didnt see much about mega live 2 that has change. Also the One boat network does not link mapping i have to purchase each lake or did that change? With Garmin i get all maps with the unit and on the Active captain on my phone for FREE.
Mega Live 2 is more than double the Hz output from the first ML- which equates to seeing fish and your bait farther out. In forward mode, you will see both fish and your bait past 100 ft which the first Mega Live could not achieve. Redesigned mount for versatility, finer angle adjustments, 15 color palettes, new features in landscape mode and the list goes on. Helix could not share mapping, but every Xplore unit will include a Lakemaster map card and can share to another Xplore, Solix G3 or Apex.
@@flawsee8456 Is this mapping include to the phone app for free? That i one thing made me turn away from the One boat app doesn't allow the map to be shared.
I bought your 1st model, in production, because ya'll were in Eufaula. Think I got it from Kmart, or Bass Pro Shops catalogue. I qualified, in 88&89 NC State Championships, BASS. Think I had an Eagle flasher, when I bought my 1st Bass Boat. Bass Tracker 1, at Bass Pro Shop, in Springfield Missouri Christmas, of 84. On my trip back from NAS Weymouth Mass., too Cherry Point NC. PCS Orders, after 3 year duty station.
So basically this makes our Helix units and Mega Live 1 have very little value now. What can Humminbird offer us on trade in or are we just SOL?
Do you feel like you have just been shit on. I do. FU hummingbird.
I can't find the weight of the fish finders on your website. Can you guys please add that to the spec sheet? Curious how much this thing weighs. How much stress it's going to have on my console, Thank you
Think they are issuing refunds for mega line 1? Considering the marketing was clearly not accurate with the product in the real world and it’s sitting on everyone’s shelves in their garage right now because they switched to garmins? Thanks Humminbird, went from 3 helix on my boat to 1. Never again.
Looks great !!! I wish they had in a 16" screen
It’s about time yall started chasing Garmin. Been a huge gap for a long time.
Not in SI, DI, 360, GPS, Networking, follow contour. Garmin only had Live and I question that now with Live 2.0(see the videos being released on TH-cam). That is until Garmin releases the next $2000 version of Livescope. There is only so much you can gain with live until 360 live. But wait, does Garmin have 360?
That’s debatable.
@@Honks34 You think Garmins 800hz side imaging is close to Humminbirds mega? Whatever you are smoking, can you share?
@ Garmin has 1200 kHz side and down imaging. They haven’t used 800 in like 4 years. And even that 800 was hard to beat. I’m assuming you’ve never owned a Garmin.
@@Honks34 I own both and only use my Garmins with the LVS34. I own pretty much everything Garmin (Hunting, Health products, watch, etc ) but honestly, their mapping and DI/SI isn't even close to humminbird. It pains me to say that but it's true.
Not happy with huminbird.
@@SCVM__same!!
I am
How do u figure? Does your not catch fish?
Me too
Can you imagine just buying a helix that costs thousands waiting on the new generation of mega live just to find out it's useless and you wasted your money. Transparency is a must with customers instead of luring them with Black Friday deals as a money grab for outdated units. Build an external processor and make this right with loyal customers. BTW if this happened to you it would be much cheaper just to go with Garmin or Lowrance. It still dosen't compete with Garmin from the appearance in this video.
Spot on
Wait for reality mega live 2 😄
Screw over all the loyal helix owners
To be specific, only the Helix 8, 12,and 15 Helix owners.
LOL you probably get a new phone every 1-2 years. Come on man it is time. The Helix processor speed is slow.
I will buy them since they are no good anymore lol
@@jonmartinez1855you may get a new phone every two years . Not me. I am retired on a fixed income. Invested 8 k in last two years for electronics and now these are legacy units
Y’all wanna take an average Joe of a fisherman like myself and show the world how much your technology improves his fishing?
What's the difference between Apex and Explorer models?
so excited
same 🎣
I love humminbird products, but man if I’m going to have to buy a whole new set up… Why not just make they switch to Garmin? Helix customers really got screwed on this deal.
So will the update on my Apexs and Solix G3s have the same features as the Explorer? Anyone know?
Does the Explore draw more battery power compared to a similar sized Helix ? Here's something I've mentioned before...adding Side Imagining to the mapping screen would be amazing....like auto chart does.
I love humminbird
Loved the Helix for SI, but what’s the point of buying something for that price when you get a better product with the OG 2015 Garmin panoptix? Garmin FFS, Bird everything else
Panoptix Livescope was released in 2018. Before that Panoptix wasn't even usable for Cast Fishing.
@ still use the 2017 OG panoptix for my FFS on the boat now. Bought it for ice fishing and just rig it on the boat in the summer. Not as easy to find your bait but still shows bottom comp, and if it’s a fishy area or not
I’m not so sure I’m running to the company that is trying to sell me something but one of the first things they both say is that they’ve been using said company forever. I get it but in todays day, I wanna hear from the guy that uses it all.
Two features that I would love to see in new units. #1) Never brick your unit. If anything fails ... an update, a reboot, whatever, have a hardware reset button on the back of the case that reimages the unit to a known good image so you don't have to mail in a bricked unit (unless there is hardware damage). Macintosh has had this in their OS for decades. #2) assigned software meaning to either the waypoint icons and/or colors. Meaning, I could tell the system "delete any green icon" after it is X hours/days old. So, can put any 'temporary' icons in green or use the baitfish icon and know they won't be on the system forever. Personally, I mark structure with Red or Yellow. Then when I go out for the day, I'll mark fish in blue/green/purple. Next time I go out I'll click on each Blue/green/purple icon and delete them manually. All of this said, the XPlore looks nice and I'll end up buying one soon.
Damn, have to pick up an Xplore 12, Megalive 2, and a new Terrova. I’ll just take out a 20 year loan to pay it off.
Mega loan….mega interest….discontinued before you pay it off
Still running lowrance hds carbon, never jumped over to live or pro, because I just wasn't impressed. I definitely will be switching to hummingbird explore, well done guys!
The xplore and mega live 2
There's should be also new firmwares with new Waypoint management...😊
@xoctlv there's a new software indeed for waypoint management
I have M360 and three helix 12 units. In fact, I bought a gen4 helix 12 earlier this year. Now ML2 comes out and I can't use it with out buying an xplore. Glad I have Garmin for my bow live unit. Based on the HB promo video, Garmin still seems superior. Once Garmin comes out with their next gen of live, I'll be investing in that without needing to also buy another expensive graph I don't need. Humminbird still has most of the wallet share in my boat - just not live.
Z you nailed it
I have used Humminbird for over 25 years and the new Xplorer locks absolutely fantastic, but Mega 2 seems like too much hype. The simulation looks fantastic but the real footage of it being used doesn't look any different than what I already have. The simulations never reflect what it really looks like for real usage. Just from what I have seen.
Soo true. The simulation is based on the perfect water condition with no current, no algae/water impurities, no waves. Nothing in the real world.
Mega live2 looks almost as good as my lvs34 transducer on a gpsmap 1022.
Does it have HDMI out for tv’s in an Ice Fishing Shack ?
In reality that feature would have to be on it to be mildly successfull.
No, Apex units have HDMI in/out
So which is better for Mega Live 2 ....Solix 10 or an Explorer 10?
I cant wait to get one
The Explore graph is the fastest and most user friendly unit I have ever seen! Paired with the Mega Live 2 you don't miss anything!
Thought these aren't even out yet.
@@timlor1789he is a pro. They give him his free
Why Mega Live 2 not go with Helix Gen 4?
Why humminbird realease Gen4 ???
Processor speed my man. The G4 was released in 2000. That is a long time for electronics.
@jonmartinez1855 No sir, Helix Gen4 realease 01.10.2020 and I by it now
4 years in the electronics world is still a long time...😊
@@peterlong9629 maybe but why GEN 4 no difference to GEN 3.
I have over 20000 $ Humminbird on my Boat and I cant use Mega Live 2 ?
Sorry then I go with Garmin !
@@thomaswalus7608 The answer to your question, if you want it, is at Humminbird Customer Service, which I am not. You might want to ask some questions about Garmin though...
FREAKIN DEADLY! 🙌
Products look awesome, but so did MegaLive 1 and now my entire setup is "obsolete". If I could use it with Helix, this would be a no brainer for me, but completely starting over with my setup would be a steep investment. Unfortunately, ML2 looks comparable to LVS34, maybe a little better based on these controlled presentations. With the recent mass discounts on Garmin products over Black Friday, there is no doubt in my mind that LVS34 is being replaced with something even better. I just think HB is going to stay one-step behind the competition in the FFS game and it is going to be hard for me to trust that I am getting a comparable product in ML2. That being said, Xplore looks awesome and incorporates several of the features I was praying for a Helix update to bring.
Agree. So much for the investment with Helix. They should offer a trade in offer!
@ This is pretty common in electronics, you see it in the photography industry too. But where my frustration comes is that I had the trust that HB wouldn’t just push out a FFS that was sub-par to the competitors, which ML1 absolutely was when it came out. Then the updates kept improving it and I believed that it was just a software problem that HB seemed motivated to fix with the constant updates.
@@josheddy6905 and so we were lead down that path (software update) only to be mugged, robbed, beaten and left for dead as better victims with deep pockets come along tor the evil empire to stalk. Beware the electronic footpaths as there lurks thieves who would deceive you and rob you of your hard earned coin.
Stole the Garmin interface. Shocking 😂
I have the first gen Mega Live and it's not good. I'm hoping that Humminbird will help it's customer out by offering a trade in program for the new Mega Live 2.
I also have ML first gen, dont hold your breathe...
yes ML1 is complete mistake, they shouldn't give it on a market. It would be correct move from Hummi to give remarkable discount for ML1 holders.
I wonder how much it weighs? That "black box" on the back should be separate. I bet its heavy and is going to crack some dashes.
It looks equal to Garmin now id say, maybe a touch better. Hummingbird definitely had better maps
$4K for an ice fishing set up??
Looks to be $1,500 for megalive 2 transducer, and 1,500 for an Xplore 9. Not bad. Anyone know if anything else is needed for ice fishing, bedsides a shuttle, battery and pole?
I am mega pissed I purchased mega live. I have 3 helix 12s, a helix 10 and mega 360. My buddies have Lowrance and garmin ffs, when I fish in their boats -I am mega regretting my purchase the entire time.
Mega pissed😂
Of all the guys to have in the video.. KVD, dude is shameless. Few months ago he blasted FFS!
Spent 7k on helix g4ns last year thinking they will have updates to make them compatible. Waited forever assuming humminbird would finally announce new mega live that could actually compete with my buddies garmins. Im not going out and spending 10 grand on units only for them to release a mega live 3 a few years later cause number 2 still cant compete with garmin. Youve lost a 20 year loyal customer and probably many others.😢
Can you change your chart map pointer to black? The think I dislike the most about my Helix is I can't see the !@#@#!#@ pointer. Meanwhile I can see my Lowrance pointer all the way across the boat. I hope Humminbird was smart enough to give the user the option to change the pointer color.
Bigger FFT costs money
My LVS34 is still better. Love my 12 inch Solix too. I don’t see anything that is equal or better than my current setup.
Pissed off helix owner. 7 k down the drain. Garmin in my future
Sounds great, hope that worth it. Mega live 1 was a piece of sh*t, sold it and forgot.)) Time will show.
Will ML2 work with Helix Gen3? Any additional "black box" needed to work with or directly through ethernet interface like ML1?
It will not work with any of the Helix models. The processing power of the transducers inside the head units. Helix uses single core processors. These new ones have quad core processors. No black box
@sparkfuzz1177 thanx for the the answer! Little bit upset about Helix...(( Anyway, I'll watch beyond. Best wishes.
Lightning fast user interface - boy would have been nice to have that on my $3,000 Solix instead of it being a laggy POS
I can understand getting rid of the Helix line, the last few generations have had lots of problems. I know l have had multiple problems with multiple units to the point where I really just want to rid myself of them. All the new stuff sounds great but if it has a bunch of problems then what’s the point?
i thought we could just update the mega live transducer ! not buying another piece of garbage from you guys !! gouging us now !!!
@ what a joke eh , they think everyone is sponsored or has money coming out there ass !
@@MCE86me thinks hummingbird was bought out by united health care
How about somthing for trolling
Let's go!!!
Let’s not spend the next 3 years letting the customers find all the bugs for you like mega 1.
Wow
No touch screen…fail.
Yup im switching to Garmin. Way cheaper than going brand new units. This mega live2 is only best catered to existing users of the slowlex and the apex models. I aint buying no new XPLORE since i just bought my G4N Helix units thinking software updates would help with my mega live. This is just a bad move Humminbird. I am selling my units and going GARMIN.
Humminbird not the brightest, if I have to upgrade my electronics might as well just go with Garmin at that point, lol. Great business decision there...*cough* one boat network, lmao.
Dang it. Ok I'm hooked. Bust out another few thousands.
Interesting
More sales HYPE, how about actual engineering/test results... I have MegaLive1, lure tracking sucks.... 1/8oz jig can be seen up 33', coming and going on display. What will ML2 display a 1/8oz out to???
what is the size of lure? I meet the same problem. I cast 6-7in soft baits and max you can see is 46'. This is the main problem of ML1, on lvs these is no problem 70 > 80'
@@ramunasjuodeska1475 as stated, 1/8oz jig with half a nightcrawler or 3" plastic paddle tail...
@@ramunasjuodeska1475 1/8 oz plain ball head jig with 1/2 of a night crawler or leech.
What a joke doesn't work with helix, I bought a 360 last year never did get the interference to go away. Humminbird factory help is also a joke
yawn. sure glad i went garmin. cant wait to phaze out my helix.
The first sucked bad. I won't hold my breath
So all is good now... no more bitching from bird fans.
Prepare for again Hummingbird over marketing and under delivering. I trusted them on my current setup and went all out Humminbird.
System is figity, underperforms and still brand new
My next system is not Humminbird. To much promise and not enough performance. The other two brands are just miles and miles ahead
This is just wrong. If you actually look at a boat ramp instead of believing the posts, most people have Humminbird on their boat. Great product. If you want 2nd best overall system go to Garmin. Humminbird has the best overall system. period.
@ so how many years have you worked for Johnson outdoors……
@@wiscowalleye7954 I do not work for Humminbird, I just pay attention.
Yeah they over promised with mega live and are now abandoning any updates for it or any functionality for the helix owners for their new hardware. Good job guys. 20+ year user of hummingbird I’ll be switching to garmin. They have far better customer support.
Go away, nobody cares. Just tired of people being so entitled they need to tell everyone their opinion by bashing what others prefer. Just silly.
@ I guess that’s your opinion follow your own advice ya twit.
@ I guess that’s your opinion maybe you should follow your own advice.
@@SCVM__ I'll give you $500 for it
Why don't they just fix the previous one they released?
For the same reason Garmin is now on their 3rd generation of live sonar hardware.
@@SLYFishing because then they couldn’t charge you as much money.
Do you buy a brand new model of car every year just so you can have the best @@SCVM__
Get Garmin they all ready have a new units and transducers in the works there always 1 step ahead
besides mapping/ side/down/ and boat control is far worst out of the big 3...
If you are a Garmin guy, why are you here then?
@@joeljaros4509 exactly
@@joeljaros4509maybe he is not a Garmin guy but what is true that is true… i’m using both but this megalive2 nowhere close to lvs34… The only things what is really better in humminbird that is the sidescan... except mega360 but this isn’t availiable at Garmin