Ghibli Theory: The Miyazaki Theory Explained!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.พ. 2018
- In this video, I explain the whole Miyazaki Theory- the idea that all Hayao Miyazaki Studio Ghibli movies take place in one world, on one large timeline, just like the Pixar Theory! Films included are My Neighbor Totoro, Spirited Away, The Wind Rises, Nausicäa of the Valley of the Wind, Porco Rosso, Ponyo, The Secret Life of Arrietty, Princess Mononoke, and Castle in the Sky. How do they all relate? Watch to find out!
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But my neighbour Totoro is set during the 50’s, there’s even a scene where they show a calendar displaying the date.
Could move spirited away back to the 50's... doesn't look like Chihiro's an accurate representation of a girl from the 21st century... If I were to care enough to prove this theory... Mayn...
@@land3021 nah chihiro looks like she’s from the 90s or 00s, maybe the 80s at a stretch. Including their car and the dad saying that theme parks were built years ago but were now abandoned I’d say it is set in the 2000s
@@land3021 idk what year spirited away takes place but it’s definitely after the 90s as the dad says it at the start of the movie
@@land3021 the car chihiro’s parents drive is a 1996 Audi A4, so it had to take place in the mid 90s at the earliest
The shoes are very clearly different shoes, Princess mononoke clearly takes place in 16th century Japan, there are no spirits in Nausicaa and the Seven Days of Fire are shown to be a nuclear apocalypse perpetrated by the Warriors that they try to resurrect, the cargo. Why are Kiki and Howl's not on your timeline ? I'm sorry but this seems poorly researched...
I honestly don't like interconnected universe theories, kinda ruins the unique and special qualities they each have.
@@jcage1022 I agree, it definitely takes away from the uniqueness of each movie's world. Might be fun for a giant Pixar timeline, but it really ruins some of the period-piece inspiration and details of some of Miyazaki's films (16th century Japan in Mononoke, end of 19th/beginning of 20th century (it's never fully confirmed in the film), or 21st century in Ponyo for example), as well as takes away from the unique imaginary aspects of each of his worlds (the fantasy and magic of Howl's Moving Castle is clearly different from the post-biopunk and gritty crazy insect-telepathy of Nausicaa, again as an example). The only "connection" i like to think is real is from the fox-squirrels that appear in both Nausicaa and Laputa: my head-canon (aka what i like to think for fun even though it's most likely just an easter egg and a way to re-use a very cute design) is that they are in the same universe, with Nausicaa obviously taking place at least a thousand years in the future of Pazu and Sheeta's story (or maybe an alternate future timeline, that works too), and that the God Warriors that led to the Seven Days of Fire were built from Laputan technology: it is clearly shown at some point in Laputa that there were many flying cities, not just one, so it's feasible that one could still be discovered (maybe it fell out of the sky and was buried over time and later discovered, or it was just still flying around somewhere idk) and their technology of not only robotics but also weapons of mass destructions used and improved upon like Muska wants to do in Laputa. I think the Laputan robots and the God Warriors have similar enough designs, not to mention their destructive power, maybe the God Warriors were an attempt to meld this robotic technology with organic matter (the God Warriors seem to be somewhat cybernetic but are definitely at least partly organic and "alive", and the Laputan robots already seemed pretty damned close to being sentient (putting flowers on a grave, protecting wildlife, etc)), and the fox-squirrels clearly present on Laputa (not sure if there were any on the ground tho.. if not, not sure how they would get down but it's not a perfect theory lmao) somehow survived all the way until the events of Nausicaa (although they seem rare even then, seen how excited Nausicaa is to see one brought back by Yupa, so it seem they're not a widespread species in either films so that's consitent). So yeaaah, pretty loose connection that lead me to a theory I feel doesn't actually take away from either film simply because of the giant time gap between them. Oh also I guess both of them have a real big focus on flying things, but that's just something Miyazaki looooves so it's not really surprising. Also yes all of this from a quick appearance of a creature in like 1 shot of Laputa, again probably just meant as an easter egg to their previous film (Nausicaa is the precursor of Studio Ghibli and Laputa is their first official film if you didn't know), or maybe at that time they thought that would be their mascot and then Totoro came around and that became the emblem of the Studio?
Idk, but thank you for listening to my TedxTalk, which I hope was more entertaining than the poorly researched video it's posted under.
@@jcage1022 totally.. let them live in their own universes.. I think the animation and imagery are always different out of respect for each one. Nerds are delusional sometimes...
I don't think there's a common theme but I think there's definitely a connected universe happening, it's just that spirits show up in some areas and don't in others
Edit: the connected universe should really only be mentioned for Miyazaki's directed films (and that includes Nausicaä because it's based off his manga)
Your write about everything except Howl's Moving Castle, that movie was based on a book and is not an original Miyasaki.
In Laputa, if you pay attention to the background you can see that the picture Pazu's dad took was taken in 1868
Well considering the fact that he states that this isn't his theory, it makes me wonder how well he really knows these films. After watching them a thousand times with kids, you really pick up details, which seemed to be lacking in the information he presented.
Definitely agree; id like to see where he actually Got all this information from, as well as what constituted his “research” (since actually Watching the films was obviously not part of it).
Yh also how can Nausica be after laputa if in nausicaä she is told to bless a baby called shita?
howls moving castle tho?
It takes place in a different universe or planet
The point to be made for Howl's moving castle is that it very easily could take place between Laputa and Nausicaa. It is an excellent bridge of spiritual magic being used by humans for nefarious purposes as well as being a perfect example for the 'Seven days of fire' and what that means is humans killed off humans and spirits during the war of Howl's moving castle, leading to the events of Nausicaa many years later.
@Zion Mills, also the witch of the wastes spirits look like and might also be the same species as no-face.
Howls moving castle is based upon a book
I mean it could take place after valley of the wind because spirits+humans=magic?
There is a line in Princess Mononoke where Eboshi says "Guns of Ming are too heavy." This is a reference to Ming China (1368-1644). The first guns reached Japan in 1543. When Eboshi asks where Ashitaka is from, he answers "From between East and North" this is a reference to the Tohoku region (literally, northeast). And Jigo speaks of the fierce tribes of Ezo who use stone ware, which is the reference to the Ainu. To back this up, Ashitaka carries a lacquered bowl, which is an Ainu product. The old woman in Ashitaka's village says that it has been "five hundred and fourteen years" or "five hundred and ten odd years" (the pronunciation is the same in Japanese) since they were defeated by the Yamato. The war between the Yamato (the Kyoto government) and the Ainu was fought in the Nine Year War (1051-1062) and the Three Year War (1083-1087). Eboshi's people are defiant toward the samurai, are armed with guns, and are in an uneasy alliance with Jigo who wears religious robes. All of this suggest that they are Saika people. All this and more points to the conclusion that Princess Mononoke is set in the late 16th century during the Sengoku Period. Roughly the same era as Inuyasha.
Thank you
Thank you so much
I just stumbled across this video, and am glad to read your comment and learn for all of the info you shared! As a laymen in terms of eastern history, the historical garments, societal fear/stigma of lepers, laborious relationship with iron and other raw materials, and the clearly recent advent of guns were enough clues for me that Princess Mononoke takes place much further back in time than the other movies, and not after an apocalypse.
But my neighbor Totoro is canonically stated by Miyazaki to be set in the 1950s
There's a difference between a shoe and a sandal! In Totoro there's a sandal and in spirited away there's a shoe!
But Fujimoto didn't cause the catastrophy, Ponyo was the one who caused it by accident.
I thought I was crazy for a moment, I distinctly remember the magic well flooding and all the power being released into the sea. It was literally fujimoto who said it would happen when he was in the well room before the accident.
And then the world unflooded
If Miyazaki saw this he would cry a lot
Where is Kiki's delivery service and Howl's moving castle ???
I thought the same
They’re adaptations of books, not original works. They obviously take place in their own universes
Arrietty wasn't even directed by Miyazaki
after 4 minutes watching, this theory is already riddled with holes and wasn't researched thoroughly enough.
Re watch ponyo bc at the end of ponyo the world goes back to normal
I disagree with your conclusion on princess mononoke. I think it was first in the timeline, because of the spirit of the forest being an actual character. As you said he dissipates, which led to the creation of characters like Totoro and haku
A couple points: stuff I’ve gathered from the comments and my own 2 cents
1) I disagree about Laputa taking place in the future. Aside from the fact that Pazu’s father’s photo says that it was taken in 1868, when Muska enters the center of the city, he attains Laputa’s power and shoots a sort of fire arrow causing an explosion. He then states, “The fire of Heaven which destroyed Sodom and Gammorah in the Old Testament. The Romayana refered to it as Indra’s Arrow. The entire world will once again kneel before the awesome power of Laputa.” Meaning the city of Laputa PREDATES the supposed apocalyptic flood in Ponyo. It actually existed in Ancient Times.
2) The end of Ponyo depicts the world going back to normal, so the flooding didn’t result in an apocalypse. The flood also occurred due to Ponyo, not Fujimoto.
3) The flood in Ponyo not occurring as an apocalyptic event invalidates the theory that it caused what we see in Princess Mononoke. The movie is also set in Japan’s Muromachi period (1330s-1570s CE) so it’s canonically set in the past. But let’s pretend we don’t know that, and that isn’t canonical. I’m just speculating here, but to me, it doesn’t make sense for a future civilization to fully resemble a past one, specifically in terms of clothing. For example, Nausicca is the only movie that we know for sure is set in the future. While there’s obvious parallels with past cultures in the clothes the characters wear, they still seem to possess a uniqueness to them. The clothes worn by characters in Princess Mononoke seem to parallel those of the past Japan-for lack of a better word, they’re not futuristic. They aren’t distinct from the past. Of course, this is my own personal instinct/rationale for why that part of the theory doesn’t sit well with me, and I am not knowledgeable about Japanese culture. I just can’t imagine humans making a distinct choice to wear clothes from centuries ago rather than clothing styles slowly changing based on what they presently wear.
4) Chihiro lost a sneaker, you see a sandal in My Neighbor Totoro. My Neighbor Totoro also canonically takes place in the 1950s, and there’s a calendar in the movie dating in that year to prove it! You also failed to mention Kiki’s Delivery Service which takes place in the mid-1900s, as you can tell from the depictions of technology.
5) The theory about the Spirit Realm doesn’t make sense to me. You see clear depictions of the Spirit World in Spirited Away, Mononoke, and Totoro. Maybe I’m wrong because it’s been a while since I’ve seen Porco Rosso, but how is him becoming a pig a result of spirits? It wasn’t explicitly stated in the movie. Miyazaki said that he cursed himself into that state... no mention of spirits. You theorize that the Spirit World may have some sort of an affect on the human realm, but that theory is too vague and requires too many assumptions. This argument doesn’t make sense in Arrietty either. Aside from the fact that Miyazaki didn’t direct it (so it doesn’t count in the timeline imo), it’s never implied that the borrowers are part of the Spirit Realm. They’re just... borrowers. Now idk much about Japanese lore or culture, but Miyazaki’s depictions of spirits are also far different from how the borrowers are depicted. I don’t think they’re the same thing or even synonymous with each other. And in Nausicca, the insects and toxic jungle are not part of the Spirit Realm either... they’re the result of evolution and adaptation after the 7 Days of Fire. They’re pure flesh and biology as we know it. Your narrative that all these movies are somehow connected to the spirit realm just seems forced.
6) Some people are confused as to why you didn’t mention Howl’s Moving Castle. Although it’s based on Diana Wynne Jone’s book, Miyazaki strayed quite a bit from the source material and sort of made it his own. No disrespect to the original book or author, but I think that based on the stark contrast between the movie and book, it wouldn’t be wrong to say that the movie is Miyazaki’s story, and therefore people are rightfully frustrated that it wasn’t included.
This was so long and I doubt anyone will read it but I needed to organize my frustration somehow. Ik this is from 2 years ago-we’re all late to the party sometimes. Aside from this forced narrative, there were too many plot holes and contradictions here. I’ve watched almost all these movies and found this information with just a bit of digging. I don’t know what “research” you referred to, but please try to be accurate and put in the commitment to research next time... er, hopefully you’re doing that now since I’m so late eheh.
Good points, it sucks there still hasn't been a solid theory made after all of these years.
You think you are late? I just got here and still there isnt a single video talking about a Theory that actually makes sense lol
I find it interesting how you use chihiros shoe as proof that totoro and spirited away take place within the same universe, yet completely fail to point out the more-obvious example of the soot spirits in both films. Also, the fox-squirrels in both nausicaa and laputa.
And i find it hard to believe that seven days of fire would create a toxic wasteland that pushes humanity to the brink 1000yrs later, and yet just decades after you say it takes place (the collapse of laputa), we see lush grassland, thriving communities, and all the laputans did was move their population onto the ground.
On top of that, im pretty sure sheeta says the laputans abandoned their sky-cities because they were too disconnected from nature (another major theme in miyazaki films, moreso than spirits). Even worse, you claim that nausicaa ends with spirits outliving nature, when nausicaa explicitly says that the jungles are Purifying the wasteland, and therefore must be protected!
I have a strong suspicion that, despite claiming to have done “lots of research” on these films, you didn’t actually Watch any of them... >:/
Saved me ten minutes
I would call this one of the least compelling connected universe theories I've heard. I watched a video a few days ago which connected Spirited Away with Howl's Moving Castle which I really don't buy into either.
I was acquainted with an SF author who wrote a lot of SF and mystery books. Me and a friend connected the SF books which had only two books concretely connected as a series and explained our theory of universe to him. He liked it and complimented us on how imaginatively we made it all work together. Independently, I also connected some of his mysteries.
Ok this video sucked... not only did he leave out “Howls moving castle” but the way he talks about all of these movies are as if he’s never watched them and understood what happened. There is just so much misunderstanding in this like both Nausicaa and castle in the sky do not talk about any spirits. If you’re gonna talk about them be about them and watch them bro!
The reason the princess in Nausicäa of the Valley of the Wind, wanted Nausicäa to burn the cargo, was because of the fire beast in it (can't remember if it has a name) and the down fall of humanity in that film is caused by those same creatures.
I honestly think you should research these things before making a theory :/
The creature is called “The God Warrior”
unfortunately, there are dates in several of the movies that contradict this theory, totoro is in the 50's and mononoke is in the Muromachi Period... it's a bummer but there's no legitimate timeline theory for these movies
I’m pretty sure humans will have remembered their modern technology after 100 years (even if there was some apocalyptic event) I mean 1000 years past since the apocalypse in the nausicaä timeline yet their technology is fairly modern. This is why mononoke is likely set in 1300s-1600s japan.
I am watching this video because I am also writing a video tackling the Code Miuazaki. All movies have a constant theme that permeates the studio Ghibli.
In my last video i speak about this theory applied to Spirited Away.
Thanks for your work, its amazing and I know how hard it can be to make this video. I appreciate it!
but they were two different shoes, Chihiro's is a sneaker the other kid's is a sandel. it can't have been Chihiro's besides it was the Kohaku river she fell in and it was filled in to become land for apartments. if that was the Kohaku river and that was chihro's magic changing shoe, then why was it still a river in lush farmland instead of city dwelling apartments? if Chihiro was born in lush farm land her mother wouldn't be complaining about having to drive to the next town to shop, being far from the city would be second nature to them. they were typical city dwellers with a fancy car that was well above the cars driven in Totoro who's vehicles and style of dress was of an older era. simply put it wasn't Chihiros shoe unless her parents were rich enough to afford that time machine that doesn't exist yet.
jacksparrowismydaddy Totoro takes place in the 80s while spirited away was early to mid 90s. Chihiro was also a toddler when she fell into the river so her memory of the shoe could just be wrong, considering she didn’t even remember it until she was with Haku again.
the mother complained of their new home being so far away. if she lived there wouldn't she be used to long drives?
also it made in the 80s and Hyao Mizaki says it was set in the 50s. watch th-cam.com/video/KIe1P11FA5g/w-d-xo.html
if you think about it it makes sense as he based the story around his childhood and he had to cope with a mother being very sick. I believe the man is in his 70s.
You are pretty simple-minded aren't you? Chihiro's memory of the incident was hazy. She clearly was connecting her memory of her pink shoe to the shoes she was wearing at the time. She couldn't remember that the "pink shoe" was in fact a sandal. Miyazaki wouldn't want to make it too obvious. I'm still astonished that people like you can't make that connection though
A few complaints here and there
1. You didn't include 'Howl's Moving Castle' or 'Kiki's Delivery Service'
2. 5:44 The fact that 'Princess Mononoke' is set in a post apocalyptic future is ironic, because after re-watching the movie recently, one of the elders of Ashitaka's clan clearly said that the emperor tried to wipe out their clan 500 years ago, which would mean that the time period was relatively the same instead of being the normal 21st century. Plus wouldn't there be any sign of previous human life? A good example of post-apocalyptic human life is the manga (and upcoming anime) 'Dr. Stone'
3. There was also a clear connection between 'Howl's Moving Castle' and 'Spirited Away' through many scenes, especially through the first ones in spirited away, when we see the 4 coloured stained glass window- which may be a reference to the 4 coloured portal thing (plz help I want to know what it is) that can open portals to different places, like it did to Chihiro.
I of course don't know much about ghibli films and haven't been watching them for too long but I thought I would share my two cents
I don't think all these movies are in the same universe. This is how I would categorize the Ghibli movies into different universes:
Real World:
1. Grave of the Fireflies
2. Only Yesterday
3. Ocean Waves
4. Whisper of the Heart (Maybe?)
5. My Neighbors the Yamadas
6. From Up on Poppy Hill
7. The Wind Rises
Studio Ghibli Fantasy Earth (In Chronological Order):
1. Princess Mononoke
2. Castle in the Sky
3. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
Contemporary Earth, with Known Magic (Noteably Witches):
1. Kiki's Delivery Service
2. Earwig and the Witch
Contemporary Earth, with Unkown Spirits/Magic:
1. My Neighbor Totoro
2. Pom Poko
3. Spirited Away
4. The Cat Returns (Maybe?)
5. Ponyo
6. Arriety (Maybe?)
7. When Marnie was There (Maybe?)
These fit into the unique, respective universes of the books they were based on:
- Howl's Moving Castle
- Tales from Earthsea
These are the rest that I think are solo:
- The Red Turtle
- The Tale of the Princess Kaguya
- Porco Rosso
I’m surprised you didn’t include Howls Moving Castle as the catalyst for the 7 days of fire. I think it could fit.
this is less of a theory and more of a timeline, but im glad you had fun with it
I have some big problems with this theory. First, why are you considering Arrietty? This is not a Miyazaki movie, so you should take all Ghibli movie. Then we know why the world of Nausicaä is like this: there has been a war. You don't put Kiki's delivery service in your theory and, according to Miyazaki, take place in a world without a WW2. And WW2 happens in the wind rises. Finally, according Miyazaki again, Totoro take place in the 50's not right before spirited away. You don't use hmc too. In conclusion, I can't believe in this theory
Héphaïstéus and the last film of Goro was wroten by Hayao. This theory is bored and pathetic
Studio Red Do you really have to be disrespectful to something you don't agree? Can't you just say you don't buy it and that's it?
I was also wondering why he left out Kiki's Delivery Service. Was he also implying Arietty is a spirit? Has that been confirmed?
great video (:
Nausicaa is set sometime around the pre-industrial age and Castle in the Sky is set sometime before WW1 is is evidenced by the clothing, architecture, and technology, mostly being powered by helium, steam, and occasionally petrol. Howl's Moving Castle is set around the same time.
Well, the Valley of the Wind was in the pre-industrial age, but Tolmekia (idk the place where the Tolmekians are from) was in the WWII era or maybe farther
He sound like Frankie Jonas when he hits puberty😂 lmfao
Informing me I arrived at my personal vision of the timeline
901/1000- The tale of the princess Kaguya
1200- Tales from earthsea
1336/1673 (Muromachi period)- Princess Mononoke
1890- Heidi
1929- Porco Rosso
1932- The wind Rises
1945- Grave of the fireflies
1950- My neighbor Totoro
1950- Kiki's delivery service
1960- Pom Poko
1963- From up on poppy hill
1982- Only yesterday
1990- Earwing and the witch
1993- Ocean waves
1994- Whisper of the earth
1999- My neighbores Yamada
2000- Ponyo
2001- Spirited Away
2002- The cat returns
2008- When Marnie was there
2008- Arietty
2008- *7 days of fire
July 2008- *thermonuclear war (seen in Conan and Nausicaa)
2028/2030- Future boy Conan
3000- Nausicaa of the valley of the wind
3300- Laputa castle in the sky
3400- Howl's moving castle
I love to think that somehow all of Studio Ghibli films are connected. I don't know if in this order but still it'd be cool if all of them were.
But arietty can't possibly be in the 70s because they have flip phones!
Arrietty was directed by Hiromasa Yonebayashi, not Hayao Miyazaki.
But doesn’t nausicaä happen before castle in the sky because In nausicaa, Nausica is told to give her blessings to a baby called shita and is told that she will grow strong like Nausica. Knowing what happens later on in the movie could’ve shita been stolen by the men in the aircrafts. Mainly what I’m saying is how is Nausica after castle in the sky????
Actually, "Castle in the Sky" is before Nausicaa. In the beggining of "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind", it said that it was 1,000 years after the fall of industrial civilization, in "Castle in the Sky", it's all an industrialized world, AND when Sheeta & Pazu get to Laputa, you see the little fox-squirrel creature from Nausicaa, climb onto the robot's shoulder. That's my part of the theory!
Silvina Gonzalez dammnnn sounds good to me! Thank you for sharing it!💗
Can't be Chihiro's shoe. Totoro takes place in the 50's and Spirited Away takes place after the 90's. This is evidenced by the calendar in Totoro and the fact that Chihiro's father says "they stopped making theme parks like this sometime in the late 90's" so it most likely takes place when the film was made; early 2000's.
Fujimoto did not cause the waves. The moon did. It’s basic science. Also if you look at the tapestry being played through at the beginning of the movie where the beginning were. You can see laputa in one of the arts.
princess mononokes tech is too primative to take place so far in the timeline. specifically the guns primarily used actually coming from china and being brought to japan.
I agree!
at the end of princess mononoke a spirit turned into totoro. it was definitely set before it. also, the seven days of flood I personally think could have been the war in Howl's moving castle, but I guess who knows. Totoro was most definitely happened in 1950s as Miyazaki literally stated it. So that means Princess Mononoke was definitely a few hundred years or so older. Then, seeing that I'm pretty sure spirited away should be 1990s, as her dad's car is a 1996 Audi (I believe). idk tho, icl.. And the shoes are different btw.
my neighbour totoro feels much earlier than 1990s and someone pointed out the movie is set in the 50s as the calendar with such date appears. Princess Mononoke mentions that the tribe prince Ashitaka stems from was suppose to be hidden for 400 years, it features emperors, no trace of any technology of any kind, I mean, if there were survivors of Ponyo world wide flood, some buildings and technology would have survived with the surviving humans.
I think its more than just Miyzaki films I beleive they are all connected together. And the timeline is slightly different from the one you have. With mononoke happening much earlier with magic taking a hit and being weakened for the "current day" films and then making more of a come back after an apocolipse event like in ponyo moving though into Earthsea, Laputa, Nausicaa. But thats just my theory.
In the intro credits for castle in the sky, a war between floating cities is seen, I'm willing to bet that was the 7 days of fire
Pazu's father dated his photo of Laputa 1868. I doubt Pazu was 200+
You can also sss fox squirrels being present in both in Castle in the sky and Nausicaa
In Laputa yo ucan clearly see that in the Laputa Photo is written 1868.
Here's a quick theory for ya I think lord cob the antagonist from tales from earthsea is no face when no face was alive 😮
Note the soot spreaders in Totoro and Spirited Away
Soot gremlins! Also the way the acorns fall is like no face and the gold.
I'd rather put princess mononoke at the first of the time line and i personally think that castle in the sky won't fit in this time line because it wasn't about the certainly spirits and humans but magic and advancements in science but still we've seen that the technology used by the people of the current timeline(means pazu and others)would might be the tech were old (that means the technology we used at the early stages of industrial revolution mostly steam powered) though some might compare this with princess mononoke cuz they too use the similar technology but i think that castle in the sky is more western and i haven't seen Nausicaa so I don't have any idea about that and most importantly ARRIETTY wasn't directed by Miyazaki It was directed by Hiromasa Yonebayashi the director of the WHEN MARNIE WAS THERE so I don't think Arrietty can't included in this theory (though it was co-written by Miyazaki and I also think That Sho/Shaun might be Howl cuz they resembles so much each other this was a whole different theory ) BTW i just finished Arrietty 😅
Also the soot sprites are in both totoro and spirited away
Ok here we go, totoro is post war, nausicaa has a manga thay describes the seven days of fire which are not caused by laputa because as of then it us a floating tree in space also the cargo was the god warrior, porco rossos cirse was satirical
In Nausicaa in the valley of the wind her little pet Fox is also in castle in the sky when they were at the giant tree there’s multiple of them on the robot so they are most likely in the same universe
He Forgot howls moving castle 🔥
Princess mononoke is not post apocolyptic nor is castle in the sky.
In castle in the sky the picture that pazus father took had a date of 1868 and secondly muska quoted a verse from the Bible
i do not think you have ever seen valley of the wind due to the lack of knowledge and the line "burn the cargo" occurs she mean the heart of the giant worrier there is no reference to"meany lethal "generically" engineered weapons" ( 8:16 ) This theory is BS the only conclusive thing supporting the links between the movies is the shoe in the river. Miyazaki just likes to do story based on strips. The visual likes are just the same artists using parts of the same work they had used in other movies.
But in the Nausicaa comics, the Toruekian capitol building is referred to as the Palace in the Sky. Maybe the humans escaped to the heavens in order to survive the cleansing of the earth?
But.... what about Kiki’s Delivery Service and Howl’s Moving Castle? I feel like because Ponyo was the beginning of the destruction to cause the destruction of the earth. As causing destruction and war, Kiki’s Delivery Service must have came just before Ponyo, and I’m guessing it would be Howl’s Moving Castle which comes before that
There are a lot of theories i have watched but the only point is that miyazaki is just basing some of his masterpiece on his previous one because logically the timelines of the ghibli movies cannot interfer to the present and past ghibli movies miyazaki made. One example is princess mononuke movie was older than ponyo movie
So we just gonna ignore the fact that the little boy from SLoA looks just like howl?
We going to ignore that in spirited away the whole ground was covered in water?
But In castle in the sky and nausicaa, there are fox squirrels, so I think they would have to occur In the same timeline with no branches
Spirited away had dust bunnies just like totoro!
Okay but you completely disregarded whisper of the heart which in once scene shows a clock with the words “porco rosso engraved on it” so whisper of the heart has to be in the same universe as PR without even having any connection to the spirit world in it
How about The Cat Returns and Whisper of The Heart? Both have Baron Humbert von Gikkingen (the cat)
Nope nope nope nope
Watch whisper of the heart before you watch the cat returns. Clue :BARON AND MUTA
Might not be relevant since the books are different than the movies but the Castle in the sky book is a sequel to how’ls moving castle
While I love the timeline, it's not ponyos fathers fault the apocalypse happened. It's ponyos. She's the one that filled up and let the well go that brought the tsunami
Am i the only one who saw the simulates between howl and Fujimoto (sorry if I spelled his name wrong the dad in Ponyo)
I find this theory hard to belive, as a person who has watched all of the videos u have stated several times... i think this miyazaki Theory COULD be a thing, I beg to differ about this... MESS?
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So what about Kiki's Delivery Service? It's not taken place where WW1 and WW2 never happened, also Castle in the Sky was taken place during the past.
This is what I was looking for, but I slightly disagree. And many other movies also fit the timeline topically
The my neighbor totoro tunnel i think that tunnel is the same as the tunnel in ponyo
I can see where you're coming from with Mononoke, but you're ignoring a major point in the film. The ox drivers tell Ashitaka that Lady Eboshi introduced them to the invention of gunpowder and rifles. If this were set in the future, rifles would definitely still be relevant and not considered "new technology". The film also states that this takes place in ancient times, while Japan was still under the rule of an emperor and warlords dotted the land. I'm not dissing your apocalypse theory, I just find it a little far fetched.
What is "genarically engineered"?
It's a nice theory. But in this form that's all it can be.
brush Pixar Disney and Ghibli worked together lmao
are the characters related i only watched princess mononoke recently because i loved spirited away and noticed a resemblance o f the character rin and a character that barley had a scene in princess mononoke that was selling rice to ASHITAKA at minute 14:54 she has the exact same lips as rin and the thin brows i didn't listen for voice resemblance but it kinda surprised me maybe rin is a time traveler or something
I think this is more a case of “same face syndrome”, since satsuki looks a lot like anna, with just different eye colors.
Besides that, i think itd be nice to think of the characters as all being related somehow; many of them do habe red hair, after all. :)
doesn't workout right. in the beginning of the movies it shows a montage of what happened
In arriety there are no spirits
But Chihiro's shoes are yellow o.O
I believe Howl's Moving castle is WAYYYYYY pass the last timeline movie ;v;
no face was not an actual evil spirit
4:50 didn’t the sea levels rise in ponyo because the moon was moving closer to earth???
In ponyo the world unflooded so the theory is flawed
clearly this theory didn’t have much research put into it
Good theory but it doesn't follow the timelines in the movies
but where is Kiki's delivery service?
What about Kiki’s delivery service?
What about Kiki’s delivery survice
Where is The Cat Returns??
Panyos dad didn't raise the waters that was the magic that panyo got into her dad had no idea of what happen until after the fact of her getting to Sasuke ( not Sazuke) your missing howels moving castle, castle in the sky , and about 20 other films
In arriety the had modern day cars
Someone please talk about the fox squirrel species from Nausicaä appearing in the Castle in the Sky!
Boogs Boogie Yh I think because of that they are from the ‘’same world’’ plus Nausicaä is told to bless a baby called shita therefore proving Nausicaä is after laputa and that they are in the same world!🤯
Elle8 beautiful! Never noticed that part🤩
Of course I can't say you're wrong, since it's a theory, but I disagree. I think Mononoke is definitely first, back in the Middle Ages when Industry starts to take over the natural/spirit filled world. The world progresses to the modern age through the late 1800s when flight is invented and the early 1900s when humans wage wars (Laputa could be happening here). The modern age where most Ghibli movies are happening and spirits still exist, but live in secret places. Waaay after that, after some apocalypse which I think only starts with the floods in ponyo, the world has completely changed. This is when Nausicaä happens, since it's very much post post apocalyptic. It could be that everything is on a loop, since you could argue that Nausicaä happens way way in the past, because Laputa could should be happening long after it. And the history that starts with Mononoke and everything I just said, follows after.
And i think ponyo is may
I think it would be more like this the chronology
Princess Kaguya's Tale
Old age
Tales from Terramar S 14
Princess Mononoke S 16
The castle in the sky 1900
(or it may be 1880 years after that of nausea by the same technology that is used later)
Porco Rosso 1930
The grave of the fireflies 1940
The wind rises or The wind rises 1940
My neighbor Totoro 1960
Poppy Hill 1964
Arrietty and the world of the tiny ones or The secret world of Arriety 1970
I can hear the sea 1960-1990
Pompoko 1970
Memories of yesterday 1980
The memory of Marnie
My neighbors the Yamada 1980 approx
Whispers of the Heart 1994
Chihiro's Journey 2000
Haru in the Kingdom of Cats or The Return of the Cat 2000
Ponyo on the cliff or Ponyo and the secret of the little mermaid 2006
there is a war and old magic and old technologies are rediscovered
Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind 2100
Howl's Moving Castle or The Incredible Tramp Castle 3950
Nicky the Witch's Apprentice or Kiki: Home Delivery 3960
opino que seria mas bien asi la cronologia
El cuento de la princesa Kaguya
Edad antigua
Cuentos de Terramar S 14
La princesa Mononoke S 16
El castillo en el cielo 1900
(o puede ser 1880 años despues de la de nausicaa por la misma tecnologia que se usa despues)
Porco Rosso 1930
La tumba de las luciérnagas 1940
Se levanta el viento o El viento se levanta 1940
Mi vecino Totoro 1960
La colina de las amapolas 1964
Arrietty y el mundo de los diminutos o El mundo secreto de Arriety 1970
Puedo escuchar el mar 1960-1990
Pompoko 1970
Recuerdos del ayer 1980
El recuerdo de Marnie
Mis vecinos los Yamada 1980 aprox
Susurros del corazón 1994
El viaje de Chihiro 2000
Haru en el reino de los gatos o El regreso del gato 2000
Ponyo en el acantilado o Ponyo y el secreto de la sirenita 2006
hay una guerra y se redescubre magia antigua y viejas tecnologias
Nausicaä del Valle del Viento 2100
El castillo ambulante o El increíble castillo vagabundo 3950
Nicky, la aprendiz de bruja o Kiki: Entregas a domicilio 3960