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Thanks Zimco, you're the first person I've seen reviewing a gasifier that understood AND explained the process clearly. Sorry, lapicker said the same thing. :)
Congratulations! After watching many videos on gasification stoves, you're the first person who actually has a grasp of how they work and does an effective demonstration of it. Thanks.
No, practically everything essential in the woodgas part was wrong. First, it should be run with the constricting pot holder so that a slight flue effect (and wind shielding!) is present. Next, tThe smoke is NOT sucked back down into the stove. It is physically impossible for smoke to be sucked down because the draught in the main chamber is much stronger and the air resistance much weaker than in the double wall where there is LESS ROOM and LESS TEMP GRADIENT. Simple aerodynamics and thermodynamics. Reason it looks like that is because it ignites into a clear flame. It's NOT fueling the jets. The jets are plain air, so when it looks like there are flames coming out of them is because that's where airflow locally fans the combustion. Next. "Wood isn't burning". Correct, but that is ALWAYS the case. Wood that is heated exudes gasses which combust, leaving behind char which burns once no more gas emerges. Again, this happens ALWAYS with burning wood. And char doesn't burn with a flame, char forms embers. Next, wording. The smoke doesn't dissipate in this context, it disappears, if anything. Dissipating is something different, and it doesn't take this stove, or any, for smoke to dissipate. Use the correct words, not just any that sound smart and may or may not mean what you think they mean. Next, the smoke isn't water vapour, it's wood gas. The reason it "disappears" is because it catches fire, again, forming a clear flame. It looks exactly like this with bone-dry wood, too. I've tried it, with sticks dried in 60 °C for several DAYS. And yes, those stoves DO get choked, namely when the bottom grille becomes covered with so much ash that barely any air can pass. This slows the combustion, lowering the temperature for more wood to gasify, lowering the rate of gas production, until it finally dies. It can, and should, be improved by adding more air holes into the side of the grille cup. This at least lengthens the time the stove has before being choked yet again. Source: My own Lixada stove. The other firing methods, I'm not going to go into them, they were reasonably accurate, but the woodgas part was utter nonsense, a complete misunderstanding through misinterpretation of the laws of physics and observed phenomena. Also, don't forget to go ahead! It is vitally important to go ahead and go ahead! If you do go ahead to not go ahead, or if you don't go ahead to go ahead, go ahead and go ahead later. But don't go ahead and don't not go not ahead, or your head will explode.
So many experts have talked a lot of crap about how they believe these stoves work... yours is the first i have seen that really describes the way the smoke is drawn downwards and how the process works.
I love your videos! I really appreciate it that you do not play extremely loud obnoxious music at the beginning the way so many do. You are to the point and yet provide information while demonstrating things. Keep up the good work!
Other similar videos I have seen people are crying about damp wood and poor weather. With the alcohol and solid fuel options you demonstrated there is no reason not to carry a stove of this type. Good Job!
You're right . . . these stoves are great! No iso-butane canisters to worry about, nothing to break, easy to pack, and nature supplies the fuel. I bought a couple of these (one with a pot stand like yours, and one with a pot stand similar to the Solo Stove). They were dirt cheap, so why not. I appreciate your thoughtful insights on how the stove actually functions. Your observations about the charcoal was brilliant. Hey, thanks for the video.
Thank you so much! I'm glad that you enjoyed the video, and that we were able to provide the kind of information that you were looking for :) I do love this stove and it has become my new go to for every backpacking trip I take!
It is an absolute pleasure to watch this video where someone has actually took the time to learn everything they possibly can so that they can give an educated demonstration. I have owned one of these for nearly 3 years and this is one of the few vids I seen where they genuinely know what they are talking about. A brilliant review. 👍👍👍 Ps Try using wood pellets in it, I keep a bag of these in the vehicle with mine for when using it close by. When fully loaded with pellets it will burn with strong flame for a good 30 minutes and sometimes up to 45 minutes. Then as you say after the flames die down it still remains hot enough to keep cooking over the charcoals.
Brilliant video. So many reviews out there haven’t got a clue what this multi-fuel mini stove has to offer. I agree it should be there in everyone’s standard grab bag. It even runs 4 tea candles to boil water and the deep ones run for 8 hours lol. Great. Video great and honest review. A Bang on Wee stove. Mine was £13.00 delivered free to scotland uk.
I have the ohuhu version of this stove they work great i have been using mine on good quality wood pellets and have had good usable heat for around an hour . its now an essential part of my pack. great video.
Update from my first comment. I've now used mine 20+ times and wow, it's great. Damp sticks are tricky to get going but once it's lit, it will burn well. Just today I boiled water for a cup of coffee in the woods, a cup of water went to boil so fast I was sitting there waiting for the sticks to burn down afterwards for quite a while, sipping my drink :)
Glad you showed that it needs constant filling to maintain a good hot fire! ... I found the same even when I tried the method of stacking it tightly with sticks to begin with!.... Yep it would definitely boil water in 3-4 minutes.... but it needs constant attention which is why I personally prefer a larger stove or fire to use or be conversant with as a survival piece of equipment!! Great video mate! Very best wishes 👍🏽👍🏽😎
I'm late to the party. Just bought the gas one version, same stove but with a bbq rack included. These will be great when the SHTF. My wife will be getting one for herself as well. $18.00 on Amazon right now, Oct 2022. Ty for the review, subbed.
I have the Canway version of this stove and it is great. If you use wood pellets, it will burn for 40 min. without refeeding. I haven't carried to the woods yet, because I have only had it for a couple of days. I think that it will be a great addition to my kit! Thanks for sharing!
I picked one of these up yesterday, I'm really looking forward to using it. I will be trying cat litter Wood pellets which I've seen in other videos burn for a long time, over an hour with one load.
Try loading the stove with wood and light it from the top, so it burns from the top down. Have the wood level below the holes. You should get a 20 minute burn without adding more wood.
Wood pellets 50 mins plus cut scrap wood 40 min . good vid thanks for making. You can cook everything on these gasifier stoves. I run a Ohuhu stove and love it .
Thanks for an in depth demo & evaluation of my latest stove purchase. I look forward to using it and I intend to follow your advice & carry all three fuel types & perhaps wood pellets & kitty litter(?) as well. Saw another TH-cam vid showing how this stove stores inside a 775 ml MSR Stowaway cook pot, which I'll also carry. Thanks for the insight & observations on the process.
Gasification does not suck the smoke downwards. It all still goes upwards. The top ring of holes merely sends super heated air to completely combust the flammable vapours.
Hi, you kept referring to it being a Silverlight copy but I think you mean SilverFIRE. I've seen all your videos on this latest generation Lixada stove (including the 1 year down the track update) so I ordered mine yesterday. G'day from Australia. Thank you for all the great presentations.
Loved the fire department sirens in the background, they must have seen the smoke!!😈 Great video and explanation of how the gassifier works. Thanks for sharing.
These are just awesome little stoves. I have one non branded generic one, one ohuhu, and four lixada stoves. I'm using one. The others I have got as standby should I loose one or it gets damaged etc. Also have the 180 tack knock off, the emberlit knockoff, but these gasifier stoves are by far the best and most efficient. Your video was excellent. Subbed. Atb, The Solo Hiker....
I absolutely love this stove. I made an alcohol thingy aswell though I have trouble fitting it inside (due to it does have a top which does not allow the stand triangles to fold into it... Does not matter really. The Lixada is versatile, light enough and just great to have and use...I use it to make a tea when I am in the woods walking my dog but also will I be using it on my hikes. I do have a bit of trouble lighting it but that is just me getting to know the stove...so that's oke. If you do not have one, get one. You may want to look into some mods on this stove: for one a plate fixed to and suspended underneath the burn chamber (to prevent any hot ashes or coles burning whatever is underneath the stove. Also if you have small pots to cook with you may want to get creative with some stainless steel welding wire and fashion a mercedes benz logo style thing which hooks onto the original triangles (maybe even drill small holes to hook into...
I have been trying to make a decision about whether to go get another type of stove. I have a Trangia and a Lixada folding wood stove. Both are fantastic, but I don't think it's going to make it easier to cook upon in all circumstances. These wood has stove fill that void for many people. I have been watching a lot of the videos that are available on this subject matter,and yours was very helpful and informative. I was just wondering if you have been able to observe if a alcohol burner is able to make enough " smoke " or combustion by products to get the jets on the Lixada to ignite? Especially when using isopropyl alcohol 70%, it sounds like a possibility, IMHO. Thank You for your time and effort in this video series.
+Bradley Mann I have tested that out myself, and no I was not able to get the Jets to light in the lixada with any alcohol stove. However with that said if you place the alcohol stove in the combustion chamber like I show in my video the lixada stove acts like an insulator and focuses the heat straight out of the top. My alcohol stove burning %70 boils water as fast as denatured alcohol does when placed in the lixada stove. And burns an average of 50% longer per ounce. I guess what I'm trying to say is that when you put an alcohol stove into a lixada gasification stove the alcohol stove runs more efficiently and produces SIGNIFICANTLY more heat. My recommendation is to purchase the new Lixada stove (link is in the comments) it is an all around GREAT stove! You won't be disappointed!
@@ZimCoSurvival That was great news to hear. Took your advice and purchased this wood gas stove and been really happy 😃 That was four years ago 😅😃 Crazy. Just watched the video again. Just wondering if you are still using an alcohol stove and if you have any luck with the gasification effects? 😊 Thanks 👍👍
This stove doesn't appear to be available anymore. Amazon doesn't have them and doesn't know when they will. And the contact page doesn't work on the Lixada site.
+Thomas Cronquist it's by far my favorite camp stove! I recently purchased an esbit spirit stove to replace my penny stove and it works like a charm stuck down in the lixada!
Go ahead and try this fun drinking game: every time the narrator says go ahead, go ahead and drink a shot of your preferred beverage. You'll be wasted by about the 3rd minute. P.s. enjoyed the video very much.
Yes, don't forget to go ahead! It is vitally important to go ahead and go ahead! If you do go ahead to not go ahead, or if you don't go ahead to go ahead, go ahead and go ahead later. But don't go ahead and don't not go not ahead, or your head will explode.
It's a great stove, but Tomshoo makes a far better stove for around the same price. Excellent presentation and the information given was well explained....Subscribed !! Keith The Alabama Bushcrafter
@@ZimCoSurvival I hope you dont think I was being ugly or nasty. I've had noth stoves and I actually after many months of use and decidedly convinced that the Tomshoo is a far better product and you can get them for around 17.00 dollars shipped. I am torn between gasification and alcohol stoves, having much love for both..... Keith The Alabama Bushcrafter
Not at all! I love hearing about new products! Especially budget products that are good :) I didn't think that at all, and I'll definitely be getting one to test out and review :) in fact that's how I heard about lixadas newly redesigned stove that I reviewed last year
Woodgas stoves need to have the fuel packed in correctly before lighting, When a woodgas stove burns correctly only a blue flame exists after about 2 minutes of ignition and it will remain until the wood is almost completely burnt. This looks like a soot monster.
I hope you realize that there is a difference between water vapour and smoke! I don't think you understand the actual operation of the stove and gasification process. The way you explain it makes no sense.
+Coffee contrary to what you currently seem to believe gasification stoves burn the smoke from dry wood because it's essentially made of flamable gasses and fine particles. These burn completely producing no smoke when a gasification stove reaches temperature. The wood that I was using was damp thanks to the rains we had gotten prior to the video. The result was water vapor being emitted along with the gasses and particles. Since a gasification stove does not burn hot enough to break H20 down to its base components (hydrogen) and (oxygen) the stove was unable to burn the water vapor resulting in "smoke" being released. Once the vapor had burned off and the wood was dry the stove stopped "smoking" as designed.
wet wood or physics. take your pick. water has to change phase and the amount of energy needed to change phase is huge. it is the one part of global warming the political scientists refuse to address. but, if you watched, as soon as the water vapor boiled off teh secondary burn resumed. I will offer that anyone making a video should not allow for such distractions.
IMHO, the gasification is poor. the fire should be blue, not yellow and the fact that the pots blacken shows that the amount of smoke that is un-burnt, is very high. I would offer that these gasifiers are a gen-1. someone will come along with a more efficient design and actually burn the smoke and get blue flames, and clean pots.
In my opinion the perfection that your asking for is simply not possible with a gasification stove of this size. While yes a perfect gasification produces blue also known a "clear" flames it would also require a larger combustion chamber and a much hotter burn than what these stoves provide, To receive a perfect gasification i would expect the stove to be about the size of a 50 gallon drum. Far to large for a backpacking stove. I believe these backpacking stoves are still miles ahead of your standard box backpacking stoves. Even without complete combustion.
I don’t think you can call anything by Lixada “Original.” All they make is cheap knockoffs. Granted, they work fine (I have another knockoff brand of this stove), but it’s not the original. I believe this is a knockoff of a product by Silver Fire.
So much wrong with this. It should be run with the constricting pot holder so that a slight flue effect (and wind shielding!) is present. The smoke is NOT sucked back down into the stove. It is physically impossible for smoke to be sucked down because the draught in the main chamber is much stronger and the air resistance much weaker than in the double wall where there is LESS ROOM and LESS TEMP GRADIENT. Simple aerodynamics and thermodynamics. Reason it looks like that is because it ignites into a clear flame. It's NOT fueling the jets. The jets are plain air, so when it looks like there are flames coming out of them is because that's where airflow locally fans the combustion. Next. "Wood isn't burning". Correct, but that is ALWAYS the case. Wood that is heated exudes gasses which combust, leaving behind char which burns once no more gas emerges. Again, this happens ALWAYS with burning wood. And char doesn't burn with a flame, char forms embers. Next, wording. The smoke doesn't dissipate in this context, it disappears, if anything. Dissipating is something different, and it doesn't take this stove, or any, for smoke to dissipate. Use the correct words, not just any that sound smart and may or may not mean what you think they mean. Next, the smoke isn't water vapour, it's wood gas. The reason it "disappears" is because it catches fire, again forming a clear flame. It looks exactly like this with bone-dry wood, too. I've tried it, with sticks dried in 60 °C for several DAYS. And yes, those stoves DO get choked, namely when the bottom grille becomes covered with so much ash that barely any air can pass. This slows the combustion, lowering the temperature for more wood to gasify, lowering the rate of gas production, until it finally dies. It can, and should, be improved by adding more air holes into the side of the grille cup. This at least lengthens the time the stove has before being choked yet again. Source: My own Lixada stove. The other firing methods, I'm not going to go into them, they were reasonably accurate, but the woodgas part was utter nonsense, a complete misunderstanding through misinterpretation of the laws of physics and observed phenomena. Also, don't forget to go ahead! It is vitally important to go ahead and go ahead! If you do go ahead to not go ahead, or if you don't go ahead to go ahead, go ahead and go ahead later. But don't go ahead and don't not go not ahead, or your head will explode.
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Maybe its just me and bad luck but it seems leavs are a pain to light.they tend to prefer to smolder in my experiance.
You have no idea of what you're doing.
Thanks Zimco, you're the first person I've seen reviewing a gasifier that understood AND explained the process clearly. Sorry, lapicker said the same thing. :)
@@frederickpittsley7639 No. He is completely wrong on almost anything he explains.
Congratulations! After watching many videos on gasification stoves, you're the first person who actually has a grasp of how they work and does an effective demonstration of it. Thanks.
+lapicker You're welcome! We try our best to give the most informative and accurate reviews possible!
Agreed, very nice explanation
No, practically everything essential in the woodgas part was wrong. First, it should be run with the constricting pot holder so that a slight flue effect (and wind shielding!) is present. Next, tThe smoke is NOT sucked back down into the stove. It is physically impossible for smoke to be sucked down because the draught in the main chamber is much stronger and the air resistance much weaker than in the double wall where there is LESS ROOM and LESS TEMP GRADIENT. Simple aerodynamics and thermodynamics. Reason it looks like that is because it ignites into a clear flame. It's NOT fueling the jets. The jets are plain air, so when it looks like there are flames coming out of them is because that's where airflow locally fans the combustion. Next. "Wood isn't burning". Correct, but that is ALWAYS the case. Wood that is heated exudes gasses which combust, leaving behind char which burns once no more gas emerges. Again, this happens ALWAYS with burning wood. And char doesn't burn with a flame, char forms embers. Next, wording. The smoke doesn't dissipate in this context, it disappears, if anything. Dissipating is something different, and it doesn't take this stove, or any, for smoke to dissipate. Use the correct words, not just any that sound smart and may or may not mean what you think they mean. Next, the smoke isn't water vapour, it's wood gas. The reason it "disappears" is because it catches fire, again, forming a clear flame. It looks exactly like this with bone-dry wood, too. I've tried it, with sticks dried in 60 °C for several DAYS. And yes, those stoves DO get choked, namely when the bottom grille becomes covered with so much ash that barely any air can pass. This slows the combustion, lowering the temperature for more wood to gasify, lowering the rate of gas production, until it finally dies. It can, and should, be improved by adding more air holes into the side of the grille cup. This at least lengthens the time the stove has before being choked yet again. Source: My own Lixada stove. The other firing methods, I'm not going to go into them, they were reasonably accurate, but the woodgas part was utter nonsense, a complete misunderstanding through misinterpretation of the laws of physics and observed phenomena.
Also, don't forget to go ahead! It is vitally important to go ahead and go ahead! If you do go ahead to not go ahead, or if you don't go ahead to go ahead, go ahead and go ahead later. But don't go ahead and don't not go not ahead, or your head will explode.
@@Anvilshock I agree
So many experts have talked a lot of crap about how they believe these stoves work... yours is the first i have seen that really describes the way the smoke is drawn downwards and how the process works.
if you stack theh wood vertically and pack it in, set the fire on top you should get about a 30 minute or so burn time from a single fill
I love your videos! I really appreciate it that you do not play extremely loud obnoxious music at the beginning the way so many do. You are to the point and yet provide information while demonstrating things. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much! We love making them!
I ordered one yesterday off amazon and relieved it today. it's for my partners birthday on Friday. he's going to love this!
These are great little stoves. Honestly I like them so much I no longer even consider propane camping stoves as an option anymore!
Other similar videos I have seen people are crying about damp wood and poor weather. With the alcohol and solid fuel options you demonstrated there is no reason not to carry a stove of this type. Good Job!
You're right . . . these stoves are great! No iso-butane canisters to worry about, nothing to break, easy to pack, and nature supplies the fuel. I bought a couple of these (one with a pot stand like yours, and one with a pot stand similar to the Solo Stove). They were dirt cheap, so why not. I appreciate your thoughtful insights on how the stove actually functions. Your observations about the charcoal was brilliant. Hey, thanks for the video.
Thank you so much! I'm glad that you enjoyed the video, and that we were able to provide the kind of information that you were looking for :) I do love this stove and it has become my new go to for every backpacking trip I take!
It is an absolute pleasure to watch this video where someone has actually took the time to learn everything they possibly can so that they can give an educated demonstration.
I have owned one of these for nearly 3 years and this is one of the few vids I seen where they genuinely know what they are talking about.
A brilliant review.
👍👍👍
Ps
Try using wood pellets in it, I keep a bag of these in the vehicle with mine for when using it close by.
When fully loaded with pellets it will burn with strong flame for a good 30 minutes and sometimes up to 45 minutes.
Then as you say after the flames die down it still remains hot enough to keep cooking over the charcoals.
His explanation is mostly wrong, though.
Brilliant video. So many reviews out there haven’t got a clue what this multi-fuel mini stove has to offer. I agree it should be there in everyone’s standard grab bag. It even runs 4 tea candles to boil water and the deep ones run for 8 hours lol.
Great. Video great and honest review.
A Bang on Wee stove.
Mine was £13.00 delivered free to scotland uk.
I have the ohuhu version of this stove they work great i have been using mine on good quality wood pellets and have had good usable heat for around an hour . its now an essential part of my pack. great video.
Update from my first comment. I've now used mine 20+ times and wow, it's great. Damp sticks are tricky to get going but once it's lit, it will burn well. Just today I boiled water for a cup of coffee in the woods, a cup of water went to boil so fast I was sitting there waiting for the sticks to burn down afterwards for quite a while, sipping my drink :)
Glad you showed that it needs constant filling to maintain a good hot fire! ... I found the same even when I tried the method of stacking it tightly with sticks to begin with!.... Yep it would definitely boil water in 3-4 minutes.... but it needs constant attention which is why I personally prefer a larger stove or fire to use or be conversant with as a survival piece of equipment!! Great video mate! Very best wishes 👍🏽👍🏽😎
Dude. Strong work.
Best one yet. 👍
I'm late to the party. Just bought the gas one version, same stove but with a bbq rack included. These will be great when the SHTF. My wife will be getting one for herself as well. $18.00 on Amazon right now, Oct 2022.
Ty for the review, subbed.
I have the Canway version of this stove and it is great. If you use wood pellets, it will burn for 40 min. without refeeding. I haven't carried to the woods yet, because I have only had it for a couple of days. I think that it will be a great addition to my kit! Thanks for sharing!
I picked one of these up yesterday, I'm really looking forward to using it. I will be trying cat litter Wood pellets which I've seen in other videos burn for a long time, over an hour with one load.
Try loading the stove with wood and light it from the top, so it burns from the top down. Have the wood level below the holes. You should get a 20 minute burn without adding more wood.
Wood pellets 50 mins plus cut scrap wood 40 min . good vid thanks for making. You can cook everything on these gasifier stoves. I run a Ohuhu stove and love it .
Thanks for an in depth demo & evaluation of my latest stove purchase. I look forward to using it and I intend to follow your advice & carry all three fuel types & perhaps wood pellets & kitty litter(?) as well. Saw another TH-cam vid showing how this stove stores inside a 775 ml MSR Stowaway cook pot, which I'll also carry. Thanks for the insight & observations on the process.
Excellent demo. I think you know that there is an improved version of this. It allows you to add wood sticks without taking off the pot.
I got my stove in today. I love it. It does work just like shown in your demonstration.
Excellent video. 😎
Thank you!
Good stuff, still waiting to receive mine. Nice demo and explanation of the gasification process!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!
Gasification does not suck the smoke downwards. It all still goes upwards. The top ring of holes merely sends super heated air to completely combust the flammable vapours.
Correct.
Very well, detail and informative video,I have the large one and can't wait to go out and give it a try. Greetings from Germany!
+Woodsman Tonahuac thank you! Please have a great night... I mean morning lol
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Ordering one.
Thank you! You wont regret your purchase!
Hi, you kept referring to it being a Silverlight copy but I think you mean SilverFIRE. I've seen all your videos on this latest generation Lixada stove (including the 1 year down the track update) so I ordered mine yesterday. G'day from Australia. Thank you for all the great presentations.
Thanks for this. I just bought one of these stoves and was looking for some tips on use. Awesome!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video! These are awesome stoves :)
Loved the fire department sirens in the background, they must have seen the smoke!!😈
Great video and explanation of how the gassifier works. Thanks for sharing.
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+Barry Bridge lol pocket reply :)
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That's brilliant, I wish I could get my pockets to work for me!!
It's mostly wrong, though.
These are just awesome little stoves. I have one non branded generic one, one ohuhu, and four lixada stoves. I'm using one. The others I have got as standby should I loose one or it gets damaged etc. Also have the 180 tack knock off, the emberlit knockoff, but these gasifier stoves are by far the best and most efficient.
Your video was excellent. Subbed.
Atb,
The Solo Hiker....
So true. It's a great review.
Sticks should be stacked vertically buddy, and they must be kept below the ring of holes then you can get a good 45 minutes with the correct wood
I absolutely love this stove. I made an alcohol thingy aswell though I have trouble fitting it inside (due to it does have a top which does not allow the stand triangles to fold into it... Does not matter really. The Lixada is versatile, light enough and just great to have and use...I use it to make a tea when I am in the woods walking my dog but also will I be using it on my hikes. I do have a bit of trouble lighting it but that is just me getting to know the stove...so that's oke. If you do not have one, get one. You may want to look into some mods on this stove: for one a plate fixed to and suspended underneath the burn chamber (to prevent any hot ashes or coles burning whatever is underneath the stove. Also if you have small pots to cook with you may want to get creative with some stainless steel welding wire and fashion a mercedes benz logo style thing which hooks onto the original triangles (maybe even drill small holes to hook into...
Great video, very explanatory. Best one to watch the gasification process.
great review thank you
I have been trying to make a decision about whether to go get another type of stove. I have a Trangia and a Lixada folding wood stove. Both are fantastic, but I don't think it's going to make it easier to cook upon in all circumstances. These wood has stove fill that void for many people. I have been watching a lot of the videos that are available on this subject matter,and yours was very helpful and informative. I was just wondering if you have been able to observe if a alcohol burner is able to make enough " smoke " or combustion by products to get the jets on the Lixada to ignite? Especially when using isopropyl alcohol 70%, it sounds like a possibility, IMHO. Thank You for your time and effort in this video series.
+Bradley Mann I have tested that out myself, and no I was not able to get the Jets to light in the lixada with any alcohol stove. However with that said if you place the alcohol stove in the combustion chamber like I show in my video the lixada stove acts like an insulator and focuses the heat straight out of the top.
My alcohol stove burning %70 boils water as fast as denatured alcohol does when placed in the lixada stove. And burns an average of 50% longer per ounce.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that when you put an alcohol stove into a lixada gasification stove the alcohol stove runs more efficiently and produces SIGNIFICANTLY more heat.
My recommendation is to purchase the new Lixada stove (link is in the comments) it is an all around GREAT stove! You won't be disappointed!
@@ZimCoSurvival That was great news to hear. Took your advice and purchased this wood gas stove and been really happy 😃 That was four years ago 😅😃 Crazy. Just watched the video again. Just wondering if you are still using an alcohol stove and if you have any luck with the gasification effects?
😊 Thanks 👍👍
Can you please test if it works with risk husk.. Thank you!!
My name is Gwyn from Wales UK. just got one of them , have you tried not having the harsh plate in you can run a Swedish fire in it like the nano
If you had to the bowl could hold liquid alcohol and be used a burner. Have fun stay safe.
I congratulate you. burn the fire as desired. great .. in these quarries the fire must definitely be burned from the top ...
Do the solid fuel tablets produce soot?
Yes unfortunately they do :(
does it come with cookware?
Unfortunately it doesn't :(
our company issued new camping burning stove with cookware set, would you like to try it? I can send product to you
Absolutely :)
Sure! I would be glad to test it for you
could you send email to me? jasoncorst99@gmail.com
I have a similar one best 20 bucks I ever spent.😁
Nice so u can use it in a tent or under a tarp no problem
This stove doesn't appear to be available anymore. Amazon doesn't have them and doesn't know when they will. And the contact page doesn't work on the Lixada site.
Thankyou
I'm surprised how great this Lixada stove compared to my Bush Buddy, for under $19.00
+Thomas Cronquist it's by far my favorite camp stove! I recently purchased an esbit spirit stove to replace my penny stove and it works like a charm stuck down in the lixada!
really? that is surprising, i will have to try one.
Go ahead and try this fun drinking game: every time the narrator says go ahead, go ahead and drink a shot of your preferred beverage. You'll be wasted by about the 3rd minute. P.s. enjoyed the video very much.
Yes, don't forget to go ahead! It is vitally important to go ahead and go ahead! If you do go ahead to not go ahead, or if you don't go ahead to go ahead, go ahead and go ahead later. But don't go ahead and don't not go not ahead, or your head will explode.
I recon you could use the solid fuel tray under the alcohol stove with a few drops to pre heat in low temperatures
Absolutely, I have done that and it works great!
Ya should tell them that with 99% Alcohol instead of 70% you get a Blue flame that is much larger and hotter.
It's a great stove, but Tomshoo makes a far better stove for around the same price. Excellent presentation and the information given was well explained....Subscribed !!
Keith
The Alabama Bushcrafter
I've never heard of tomshoo, I'll have to take a look at then! Thanks for letting me know :)
@@ZimCoSurvival I hope you dont think I was being ugly or nasty. I've had noth stoves and I actually after many months of use and decidedly convinced that the Tomshoo is a far better product and you can get them for around 17.00 dollars shipped. I am torn between gasification and alcohol stoves, having much love for both.....
Keith
The Alabama Bushcrafter
Not at all! I love hearing about new products! Especially budget products that are good :) I didn't think that at all, and I'll definitely be getting one to test out and review :) in fact that's how I heard about lixadas newly redesigned stove that I reviewed last year
Even though the small plate can be used to burn solid fuel inside of it, I believe is designed to light the wood from underneath, using alcohol.
+agatho00 I never thought of it that way, I'll have to try it out and see how it does :)
lighting that with a ferro rod would have been impossible
Woodgas stoves need to have the fuel packed in correctly before lighting, When a woodgas stove burns correctly only a blue flame exists after about 2 minutes of ignition and it will remain until the wood is almost completely burnt. This looks like a soot monster.
around 7.30 a woman shouts what was it she says sounds like let me out did you have her locked in cabin
Light the stove at breakfast and you'll have it ready to cook lunch ;-)
it is a pain in the but that the stove wasn't designed with a feeding port on the side
I hope you realize that there is a difference between water vapour and smoke! I don't think you understand the actual operation of the stove and gasification process. The way you explain it makes no sense.
Correct. This guy has no clue.
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Wet wood, the oldest excuse in the book.
+Coffee contrary to what you currently seem to believe gasification stoves burn the smoke from dry wood because it's essentially made of flamable gasses and fine particles. These burn completely producing no smoke when a gasification stove reaches temperature. The wood that I was using was damp thanks to the rains we had gotten prior to the video.
The result was water vapor being emitted along with the gasses and particles. Since a gasification stove does not burn hot enough to break H20 down to its base components (hydrogen) and (oxygen) the stove was unable to burn the water vapor resulting in "smoke" being released. Once the vapor had burned off and the wood was dry the stove stopped "smoking" as designed.
wet wood or physics. take your pick. water has to change phase and the amount of energy needed to change phase is huge. it is the one part of global warming the political scientists refuse to address. but, if you watched, as soon as the water vapor boiled off teh secondary burn resumed.
I will offer that anyone making a video should not allow for such distractions.
I like it but it's too wild, too wild to sit around.
IMHO, the gasification is poor. the fire should be blue, not yellow and the fact that the pots blacken shows that the amount of smoke that is un-burnt, is very high. I would offer that these gasifiers are a gen-1. someone will come along with a more efficient design and actually burn the smoke and get blue flames, and clean pots.
In my opinion the perfection that your asking for is simply not possible with a gasification stove of this size. While yes a perfect gasification produces blue also known a "clear" flames it would also require a larger combustion chamber and a much hotter burn than what these stoves provide, To receive a perfect gasification i would expect the stove to be about the size of a 50 gallon drum. Far to large for a backpacking stove.
I believe these backpacking stoves are still miles ahead of your standard box backpacking stoves. Even without complete combustion.
Just so you know burning leaves is toxic. Other than that burning sticks, and wood that's seasoned is alright. Aged wood.
This is yet another video, where sadly the reviewer does not know how to light one of these stoves correctly.
Or how physics works.
I don’t think you can call anything by Lixada “Original.” All they make is cheap knockoffs. Granted, they work fine (I have another knockoff brand of this stove), but it’s not the original. I believe this is a knockoff of a product by Silver Fire.
So much wrong with this. It should be run with the constricting pot holder so that a slight flue effect (and wind shielding!) is present. The smoke is NOT sucked back down into the stove. It is physically impossible for smoke to be sucked down because the draught in the main chamber is much stronger and the air resistance much weaker than in the double wall where there is LESS ROOM and LESS TEMP GRADIENT. Simple aerodynamics and thermodynamics. Reason it looks like that is because it ignites into a clear flame. It's NOT fueling the jets. The jets are plain air, so when it looks like there are flames coming out of them is because that's where airflow locally fans the combustion. Next. "Wood isn't burning". Correct, but that is ALWAYS the case. Wood that is heated exudes gasses which combust, leaving behind char which burns once no more gas emerges. Again, this happens ALWAYS with burning wood. And char doesn't burn with a flame, char forms embers. Next, wording. The smoke doesn't dissipate in this context, it disappears, if anything. Dissipating is something different, and it doesn't take this stove, or any, for smoke to dissipate. Use the correct words, not just any that sound smart and may or may not mean what you think they mean. Next, the smoke isn't water vapour, it's wood gas. The reason it "disappears" is because it catches fire, again forming a clear flame. It looks exactly like this with bone-dry wood, too. I've tried it, with sticks dried in 60 °C for several DAYS. And yes, those stoves DO get choked, namely when the bottom grille becomes covered with so much ash that barely any air can pass. This slows the combustion, lowering the temperature for more wood to gasify, lowering the rate of gas production, until it finally dies. It can, and should, be improved by adding more air holes into the side of the grille cup. This at least lengthens the time the stove has before being choked yet again. Source: My own Lixada stove. The other firing methods, I'm not going to go into them, they were reasonably accurate, but the woodgas part was utter nonsense, a complete misunderstanding through misinterpretation of the laws of physics and observed phenomena.
Also, don't forget to go ahead! It is vitally important to go ahead and go ahead! If you do go ahead to not go ahead, or if you don't go ahead to go ahead, go ahead and go ahead later. But don't go ahead and don't not go not ahead, or your head will explode.
Your wood is wet!
It's not. That is what wood gas looks like when it is freshly released from wood.