Pain of Tribalism, Gukurahundi, 44 years after independence, telling the Mthwakazi story
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- Pain of Tribalism, Gukurahundi, 44 years after independence, telling the Mtwakazi story #freetalk
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Phansi ne Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 down with it,up mthwakazi viva mthwakazi ❤
Thanks Dhara for the interview and thanks Velile Moyo for standing
Siyabonga mr Velile Moyo, that's why we pick up arms with you ngoba siyabona ukuthi into eniyisukumele phansi niyayazi, sicwilile enzikini yobandlululo asiphumeni bafowethu. Siyabonga maqhawe akithi ningadeli siphakeme nathi emoyeni.
There are people who were advocating for one party state as a were a way of punishing Umdala J Nkomo, not aware that they were giving Robert Mugabe a licence to dictatorship.
Please unite with Zapu to form a powerfull force.
Mr moyo you are on point what did Mugabe and zanu pf did for Zimbabweans especially matebelez except genocide and triberlism! Viva mthwakazi forward mthwakazi no surrender.
This guy understand Zimbabwe and he is not a greedy politician
Excellent interview
Mthwakazi independent is the permanent solution for gukurahundi,marginalisation,sa xenophobic, attacks coz once Mthwakazi Matabeleland gets its sovereign thousands if not millions of our fellow matabeles will go home
Good job Mhlanga
Uzwa umuntu ethi we are one, people need to show us that one 1⃣ they talk of.
Emotional politics won’t pay
Yes we have problems in Zimbabwe but tribalism is dangerous I'm a pan African and also a Zimbabwean and we can't continue to create many countries in Africa we have 54 countries already
Zimbabweans needs to be educated especially on this issue because what we have at the moment isn't a nation and no one is willing to build one more esp those in leadership
Tribalism hurts and it destroys but we need leadership that is deliberate in their approach towards this or we will have a Zimbabwe that is governed by ethinic majority instead of merit
should we be mixed cultural in all areas of the country?
Because you have not been lectured in language that you don't understand and upon complaining you are failed because you don't speak or understand. You are forced to speak Shona every where even the police in Bulawayo can't speak language of majority citizens in the region ..
You cannot tell us we can't because we have reasons why we want out of this nonsense
I went to school with a boy called Wurayayi and his father was a soldier. The boy was born in 1987. As I grew older I realised why he was given that silly name.
It's a lie Nkomo was voted by all
Thanks Dara Mhlanga & Velile Moyo
Conversations that change discourse
Mr Moyo is stating facts
Thanks Mhlanga., for visiting to Matabeleland
This guy doesn't beat about the bushes I as Zimbabwean agree totally agree with him
We need more people like this
Kkkk we need more people like this guy
Zim is Shonalised it will take time for Zimbabwe to become a nation
Ndebele is one of the minority ethinic group,jus like Thonga,sotho,nambia while shonq is a majority.So the majority will always rule
You are Totally Wrong there,ruling a country isn't a right for majority tribe Only, but a country is governed through Constitutionalism and some merits of any citizen who is capable of doing so. Thats Why Mugabe completely Destroyed Zim economy because Zimbabweans voted on Tribal or Clans Lines. That type of thinking is Primitive, sorry to say, the wold has long moved away from Kingdoms or Clans philosophy mindset @@tonderainebvuma7030
@@tonderainebvuma7030 that's not how it works, Vhenda pple are minority is SA but today Ramaphosa is the President,
@emc8303 South Africa has already changed 4 leaders since 1994. While Zimbabwe has changed only two presidents in 4 decades.Again a leaders shouldnt be impossed cos they belong to a certain ethinic group but leadership should be earned.Yu cant expect a back bencher to a leader
@@tonderainebvuma7030 Say no more
I am Zambian, that guest is mad. Let him not be allowed to continue with his divisive errands. We want a United Zimbabwe, further more we want a United Zambia, Zimbabwe and Malawi. Stop that nonsense.
Let people of matebeleland fight for their freedom stay in your Zambia & shut up .people of matebeleland are oppressed they must fight for their freedom.
@gptactical6658 Boss I stay in Zambia and South Africa. I am Zambian South African. So where to stay is a small issue. I do also know that Zimbabwe is our neighbor from both sides and that what happens in Zimbabwe has profound impact on Zambia and South Africa and hence as a private citizen I am concerned. While you advise me to stay in my country which I like and cherish, you should also ask yourself how many Zimbabweans are living in Zambia. Going by what you put here it is evident that you are not well travelled. I don't wish to be Ndebele but do sympathize with you as a Zimbabwean. Zimbabwe is part of Africa.
I am yet to come across an ex-servicemen or serving soldiers who admit that they were in the 5th brigade during Gugurawundi genocide, where are these people now
they will come out after zanu is gone
Sorry for you, I have lost count now how many I came across
You want to meet one
@@RollinsGKuutsi
Yes please, because I want to ask them why they killed my brother.
I have learnt that we have hardhearted people in Zimbabwe. I expected to have heard from at least one person confessing and apologizing for the deaths or being forced to kill people ruthlessly.
Sound is not good , echoes
ZANUPF anarchists and the Sharons tribalists must pay reparations to the Tebelle people
Mthwakazi hoyee
Recently the must student made a statement demeaning ndebele pple it shows even the shona kids are agreeable to the notion that ndebele are nonentity
Kanti u Mhlanga lo kuhamba njani Mthwakazi or Mthakhazi is it English or Spanish or shona eh ndeyipi .
Mnqondisi you sent the wrong guy , he doesn’t explain well about the grand plan,places like Victoria falls,all the boarder post are benefiting people from mashonaland, go to mhlahlandlela , all high post are given to the people from Mashonaland including a cleaner
The Mthwakazi Revolution is indeed relevant in this day and time for the genocide continues in different forms if you are this marginalized what best should you do ,but to self-determine ,the government of the day has never addressed issues affecting the people in midlands and matebeleland north And south.
This secession mentality will not get you what you want, instead we should work togather Ndebeles and Shonas to build a sustainable economy which benefits all. If you guys think you are the only ones having it rough it means you have not traversed the country especially Mashonaland to see for yourself the development you envy so much, I tell you there is equally no development there. People are all on their own eking out a living the best they can to survive, there are no hand outs as well. Join with everyone (Shonas) dont seperate yourselves to make yourself strangers, in fact it will never happen, we shall solve these problems together bro for all to benefit equally. Therefore the dream of dividing this country is completely out of the question no one will win there. The only solution along those lines will be to go and colonise another piece of land somewhere and call it Mthwakazi, not in Zimbabwe, we refuse asolutely
Hawuuu, ngu Mhlanga njani futhi, esehluleka ukukhuluma??
I thought I'm the only one who saw that
He may be raised by his mother's side plus these names they're all over I've been in Mozambique they're more of sitholes, Moyos, Mlanhlangas etc and remember before colonisation we were one
Kulo khumalo esitshoneni abanye babalekela iGukurawundi abanye bahamba ngesikhathi samakhiwa,, just like kugcwele ama shona ematebeleland
Dara be realistic about this one& I think it's a dangerous situation we are facing as a country, easy to deny it for now but future consequences will follow down the line
That guy is a nuisance to the community.Dhara never give a chance to be on your space again
Get lost wena. We, the people of Matebeleland, we will fight this shona mentality. You might win at least for now, but we are never asleep. Get that clearly. Let that sink in your hard head!
@@putsundlovu5883 black on black hate will destroy us all please
That's true there are just tribalists these ones , but hey it is what it is let them do what they want to do
Gukurahundi, as bad/wrong as it was, can't be explained sincerely and honestly WITHOUT describing how ZAPU Soldiers in Entumbane Barracks started it off by murdering ZANU soldiers and went on door-to-door in Bulawayo killing that could not answer them with a clicking tongue. WHY ARE YOU LEAVING THAT PART, GIVING THE FALSE IMPRESSION THAT 5th BRIGADE STARTED IT UNPROVOKED AND FOR NO REASON??? {Lying and deceiving everyone who was born after independence}.
If ZAPU soldiers clashed with ZANU soldiers in Entumbane as you say prompted Gukurawundi Genocide. Therefore ZANU soldiers who went on a spree Killing unarmed Women, young school going children, elderly people across Matebeleland. Was that ZANU soldiers against ZAPU soldiers ???????.
Because there were very few or none at all individuals named dissident that were actually caught or killed by 5th brigade
@@user-et1nb2es2i I suggest you read again my comment. Try reading slowly. Firstly, I staed in the onset that it was wrong/bad. SECONDLY, ZAPU did not just murder ZANU soldiers but also UNARMED WOEMN AND CHILDREN IN THE BULAWAYO LOCATIONS. THIRDLY, without justifying ANYTHING, I avered that anyone trying to tell n honest History should NOT omit that...HISTORY, and not JUSTICATION, of the origins/cause effects and consequences leading to Gukurahundi. Thanks.
@@makanakamaenzanise3602 My apologies if you had No intentions of distortions in what you said 🙋👏👏
Which side of Bulawayo where Shona people murdered? Can you please explain slowly@@makanakamaenzanise3602
Also how did Zipra provoke Zanla while they didn't have arms? Let's have an honest discussion
Wena Blessed, ungabo sidelela thina. What is "mtwakazi"???!
Mthwakazi is the Matabele nation who's head is Bulawayo
Too much anger directed to the wrong people. These guys are like this everywhere you go, even in the diaspora if you meet them, they have got this weird bahaviour against Shona people. Deal with the perpetrators of Gukurahundi, they are still alive & you know them. Stop deviding Zimbabweans, you wont win that, you are simply wasting your time. Leave the Shona people alone, they are loving & peaceful people!!! 😏
You right to respond like this as a beneficiary
B4 that our mothers ,sisters and wives were taken by muzilikazi and force us out of guruuswa whch is now bulawayo and take our cattles .soon aftr war shona pple were killed agin by these guyz , if we need to open up lets find the root cause and ndebele pple must apologize to shona pple and then we therefore apologize also
Mthwakazi! Hayi mtwa
Stop it for once.Yu need to drop that superiority complex.Yu think Ndebele is better than all minority ethinic groups in Zimbabwe.How is your tribe more special to Tonga etc.If yu were educated yu were going to swallow your pride and be a Zimbabwean like the rest of us
@tonderainebvuma7030 it's not about superiority. It's about the majority respecting even the minority. You see a whole station couldn't write a Ndebele word properly, why? Either coz at that level they don't employ ndebeles to proof read or they simply dont care!
@@tafadzwajosephdube Yu yourself if yu are Ndebele do want to tell me yu can write n pronounce every shona word properly.Worse Tonga words.So why do yu think Ndebele is so special that every Zimbabwean should understand ,read n write
@tonderainebvuma7030 my guy this very basic, and it just shows lack of care about the language. The person wrote the spelling in Shona. Look for many years carried passports with terrible ndebele language mistakes, mistakes even a grade 5 Ndebele student won't make. Do you know why? It's because they don't want to let someone who understands Ndebele person perform duties that a Ndebele should. Explain why they wouldn't let a Ndebele write it or least double check. The problem we face in Zimbabwe is systemic. Weather it's government or private sector we have a long way to go!
@tonderainebvuma7030 so what's wrong with trying to correct what seems to be a misspelling
Damn sokulabo mnhlanga abangama shona soon bazothatha amathambo enkosi ulobengula bewase eHeros
I believe MRP has competed in elections why is their performance so bad they surely should have at least won a ward in their areas by now
Politics is money, how much does ZANU spend just for one rally? That's a 20 Yr budget for MRP!
True
Which midlands do they talk about these mtwakazi
The whole midlands and midlands is for mathebeland the capital city is Gwelo not Gweru Mugabe and other ruthless mashona created this madness forward mthwakazi fight until the last man standing viva Gwelo down with uncivilized government. Mthwakazi must be alone.
@@sydkhumbu51Midlands is full of shona particularly karanga. From mberengwa, zvish, shurugwi, Gokwe, kwekwe. Ndebelez are in lower gweru not Gweru. No one speak ndebele in Gweru. Go and tell mashurugwi that you are ndebelez and see wat you will happen to you.
@takudzwajayaguru3977 you mad shonas are everywhere there are vultures Gweru is no for shonas that is why it was called Gwelo
@@sydkhumbu51Gwelo was a name given By Rhodesians not ndebelez. Ndebele never loved in midlands before. In mberengwa they were moved from Gwanda by dee beer mining company in 1910 . In Lower Gweru they were moved from ntabazintuna to work in the farming lands which was located in lower Gweru in 1922 by Hawkins company. Midlands is for karanga people of Shona dialect. Go to Mberwngwa, Shurugwi , Zvishavane, Gokwe north , south they speak shona as mother language and as family communication language. Notrue ndebele are from Miflands. They can have ndebele surnames but not knowing one ndebele word. Nonsense me myself we are from midlands and we had nothing to do with mtwakazi leave ilus alone and go back kwazulu natal. Most ndebelwz think most shonaz ard from Mash but most shonaz in Bulawayo are from Midlands especialy Gokwe and Zvish
@takudzwajayaguru3977 it's Belingwe not mberengwa
Yaaa nee
This hate he is talking about its his father's fault who taught him and am wondering why he wants a good thing to come from it, i love ndebele people so much but the people who wronged you not the ones who are listening to his cries, he knows them, not everyone was involved, we need to find peace with each other. Zanu knows who made the moves, they are the ones who suppose to answer for the wrongs, or else we never gonna move forward, Zanu government is the elephant in the room, Mugabes Zanu wanted power, and he used a gun, unfortunately he passed without a fix however ED is around, he is very aware of the events of 83-85, address it to him cause Shonas want answers and solutions as much as people in Matebeland do, just for peace and progress sake. Spreading hate to every tribe is not what am agreeing with you now. u sound kinda shallow. with all due respect
But the majority didn't even at least protest against the killings. I know they used a lot of propaganda to justify Gukurahundi but that's not an excuse. Our country will not go forward without genuinely addressing the genocide. Saul in the Bible did the same and Israel paid during David's time.
Nonsense
Tell them
He makes a very biased argument over a national crisis which every Zimbabwean is facing irrespective of which tongue they speak. Starvation , cholera ,covid-19, inflation , power cuts and portable drinking water , devaluation of currency and unemployment are all national issues everyone Zimbabwean not connected to the political elite of Zanu , is facing
You sound like a white man reffing black people 😂
MTHWAKAZI NOT Mtwakazi. How would you like it if we start calling Zimbabwe Zimbagwe?
I hate this attitude with passion.If a whiteman mispronounce the word it will go without notice
The difference is the same
Pronunciation doesn't matter
What does this party say about Shonas from Midlands? Because its bullying anyone with a Shona name regardless of where they come from.
Some Ndebeles in Midlands where killed.
Every country has a certain minority,so the people of Shona stturk who resides in Mthwakazi Midlands will be apart of an independent Mthwakazi Natiin
Then Bulawayo (mthwakazi ) will join the common wealthy of independent states
You can never make sense with a shona person these people are very arrogant and full of hate and tribalism it's a waste of time to have a dialogue with killers the best way if is restoration of Mthwakazi state.
Delusional guy, you think a country is made up of people with the same mentality and understanding? Even in your own family you can have stark differences with your children. Do you create a new family because of that. Fight to help all people in Zimbabwe
Tribalistic
This guy is all about hate on tribal grounds. Gukurahundi wasnt about shonas against ndebele. Shallow people think like this. Politics
His points are so weak its just power hungry n tribalism in his heart
Dhara irdhara.
Mathebele land is treated like a colony of Zimbabwe
he thinks with emotions this one. he is tinashe jonasi of the mtwakazi
Ndebele people must disassociate themselves from this shona mentality and failed zanu pf led country.
We should be African and black first before everything else
@chibabambizi1838 zanu pf has failed in tribal politics. A politics of barbarism, lacking progressivism. As such, it remains a fallacy to believe in a dream. Pan Africanism is not possible under governments such as zanu pf. We, the Ndebele people, deserve much better, and our independence won't be given on a silver platter. We will have to fight for it. We understand that very well and clearly so.
Ava vanhu ava vanoda kumamiswa ava they are creators of hate in our country
This guy is a freedom fighter
I was very hurt about Gukurahundi as a Shona person I always felt the injustices towards Matebeleland but overtime I have changed and got into defense mode. Ndebeles would do the same to us , I have seen how they blame all Shonas hence I will stand with my own even if I know its wrong. There is no point supporting Ndebeles
But what you forget is that most of the so called Ndebele peoples are of Shona origin. The really Ngunis in Ndebele population of Zimbabwe don't add up to a significant number.
Ndebelez àre a combination of tribal groups that forms the umthwakaźi nation(matabeleland,Midlands ànd some parts of màsvingo province