Actually, he is playing the part of anti-communist Russian nationalist by the name of George DeMorhenshildt. DeMohrenshildt was a friend of Lee Harvey Oswald.
This movie should be watched with surround sound or some theater-like sound. After the cuban guy says "Suppose Kennedy don't run in 64", when lowers his face there's a low bass explosion-like sound that should give you goosebumps.
Suggesting that he was the one who was going to assassinate Kennedy? Well, he should know this, Kennedy is beloved in America. Okay, there was a good chance that had Johnson succeeded Kennedy in such an event, he'd probably fail to capture the nation's attention and affection that they wouldn't grace him with reelection. But there's an equally good chance Johnson would actually pull it off.
@Jim McCracken Which thanks to Ewing money and connections, J.R. was first an astronaut *before* he came back home after his service years to run the family business.
@JackUHU Take your pick. They were all in bed together. And they all had one thing in common- they hated JFK and wanted him out of the white house, one way or the other.
1:28-1:32 that exchange is the heart of the movie that Stone can’t shy away from. Nixon knows if the conversation goes just a step further he’ll be implicated (in the maybe/maybe not fictional plot to kill Kennedy). He won’t have plausible deniability. He wont go THAT far but he KNOWS the men in that room…might
What a great dramatic scene, with no explosions, no cgi, just plain old fashion real life drama! The gravity of this moment is felt when you watch it..the Behind The scenes makers and shakers of our country, talking to a man, basically telling him were going do get rid of Kennedy, so you want to run ... It's a great SCENE!! The setting is dark, the music is ominous, and the acting is superb!! I love it when we get good directors, who know how to show drama on a screen, without telling you what to THINK, or using special EFFECTS to try to wow you..the great directors like , Scorsese, stone, Tarantino. Are so taking for granted, the movies today , for the most part are shit, commercial ads, with a lot of candy on the screen!!! This was a GREAT FILM!
I’m not so sure. There were a couple of scandals simmering - LBJ and the TFX fighter plane contract. JFK’s popularity declined steadily during 1963. We don’t know for sure what JFK would have done about Vietnam, especially during an election year. He was paranoid about being a democrat and losing Vietnam. If word had gotten out about the secret deal to remove Jupiter missiles from Turkey to resolve the Cuban Missile Crisis, it would have been damaging. Had JFK been able to get the 1964 Civil Rights Bill passed, he would lose the same states LBJ did and if LBJ had to be dropped from the ticket, Texas as well. If JFK was not assassinated, it’s possible a more electable republican nominee would have been chosen that could both win the South and more of the swing states than Goldwater did. It was JFK’s to lose but it was not a sure bet.
@@emprahsfinest7092 I don't know about that. Goldwater was one of the more charismatic personalities in the senate, a real force out there. He lost because one, America was voting largely on sympathy for JFK, and two, his ideas were a bit extreme at the time - it wasn't until ten years later they realized he was right. I mean Johnson was a good campaigner, his daisy ad evoked enough reaction to get out the vote. But it's not like Goldwater had any campaign juice.
@@flyy1006 True. Well it was more the MIC who pushed for it. Johnson personally wasn't as big on the Vietnam war. But yeah, he did blow it, failing to be truthful.
Nixon mastered the art of timing. After losing the race for California governor, he laid low. The 1964 election was going to be a runaway, regardless of it were Kennedy or Johnson. But Nixon was instrumental in organizing Republican congressional and state government victories in 1966, led to his leading the race for the GOP presidential nomination.
@@gaguy1967 Exactly. He learned his lessons after two defeats. Trouble is, he went too far, sabotaging his opponents in 1972 - a race he was going to win anyway, even if he were the target of Watergate, not the perpetrator.
Nixon lost the governor race for two reasons. 1. Kennedy backed Pat Brown and Democrats did well in ‘62. 2. Many voters thought it would be a stepping stone for Nixon to give the presidency another shot.
@@zackcross7190 Well true. Ironic, Kennedy's endorsement led to Browns's victory in California, a state that Nixon won (of course, the stepping stone factor also dampened voters).
On the other hand, had Nixon won in 1960, history would have changed dramatically in the States and across the world. And for that matter, so would Nixon's reputation. For starters, Watergate would be just a building.
Except Nixon WAS a monster. He colluded with the S Vietnamese government to sabotage the 1968 peace talks. LBJ thought what he did was litterally treason. The Vietnam War could have been over 6 years earlier and thousands of lives spared. But Nixon thought he could beat the North. In the end they signed almost the same treaty. 21,000 American GI’s died in that time period, not to mention the toll in Vietnamese lives. He also lied to the families of American airmen killed in Vietnam by telling them they were MIA. Over 2,000 by the end of the war were on the books as MIA when the military knew they were dead. Nixon started the hoax that Vietnam wouldn’t give them back to get reellected in 1972. And now that black flag flies all over the nation, an ignorant reminder of Nixon’s duplicity.
Nixon is the greatest what if President. If not for Watergate how would he be remembered. Ended the draft, ended Vietnam, opened relations with China, detente, ABM treaty,the economy was cooking, founded the epa, Title 9, gave land back to the Native Americans. His approval rating was in the mid to high 60's before watergate.
@@josephgabello3214 Nixon was so far ahead, he could have been on the receiving end of Watergate and won. But had it not been for Watergate, Nixon would have been best remembered for ending the Cold War. He almost negotiated victory in Vietnam, probably would have settled peace with Brezhnev at the negotiating table. He might have turned the tide on a slumping economy in the process.
Even though it's fictional, imagine if this is Jock Ewing making this deal because in Dallas lore, J.R. would be going into the Air Force because of Jock's connections until mid 1974.
This scene was loosely based off a covert meeting the night before the assignation. Hagman's character is based off of Texan oil tycoon Clint Murchison.
unrealistic ? so exactly what was Nixon doing the day before JFK was shot ? Had a good reason for being in Dallas , then met a bunch of murderers. Oilmen ,Cubans etc.
curious item that the camera takes time and audience focus away from the scent and momentarily onto the guy with the cigar pulling up his fly. he obviously returned from urinating --but he zips up his pant as he returns to his chair instead of in the restroom. is the director indicating by this that despite being filthy rich , this 'good old boy' is also extremely crude or has dirty hands? this meeting is ' dirty ' business.
Love it!! Everything a political thriller should be..Keeps you wanting more..Great movie making..I think its called artistic license..The broad facts aren't even in on this story.....
@Ballerfella2007 In JFK when the Generals are sitting around talking about how "Kennedys tried to make Lem eat shit" (referring to General Lyman Lemnitzer) at the last NSC meeting, there is also a person with this same accent in the conversation.
Thanks for bringing that up because I have no idea..."if you ran in 1960, Castro would be dead now." Creepy but I have no idea who he is and Stone did not reveal as such in his commentary. Anyone else?
"Nobody's gonna beat Kennedy in 64 with all the money in the world." Well, Richard, you changed that when you put Lewis Powell in the Supreme Court. Buckley v. Valeo, and boom, money dictates elections.
In 1960s era? Dozen of millions. Perhaps more. But Nixon was right. JFK was too popular. People loved him. He would won second term in 64 no problem. By the year of 63 JFK was basically a hero who stopped Communists. None money in the world could change that. So they had to kill him.
Does anybody know if Dan Hedaya's character Trini a real person or was he based off someone? Regardless who he really was, in the movie was he an assistant, a friend of Nixon or a mobster with this Jack Jones (Larry Hagmans character)?
“No one is gonna beat Kennedy in 64 with all the money in the world” I mean he was right about that Kennedy would have destroyed anyone up against him makes you wonder what might have been he Def would have pulled all military out of Vietnam in his 2nd term
This is a gross misunderstanding. The debate in his administration was about whether to keep troops in or withdraw them AFTER they had defeated the Vietcong, the idea of withdrawing while that was going on was never a consideration. Just whether to keep troops there, like in Germany and Italy and Japan and South Korea, or withdraw AFTER victory.
+ricarleite HL Hunt is a real character. People like this wanted Kennedy out and Nixon in. That is truth. Kennedy was costing a lot of different factions money.
According to LBJs mistress Madeline Brown, this meeting actually took place. It happened at Clint Murchison's ranch house the weekend before JFKs assassination.
@spoildn8410 There was not much of an audience at the time of the theatrical release. It grew since then but I think many flip out at seeing a 3 hour plus movie about a very unpopular President.
@eric090909 A conspiracy ultimately implies a group of people. Still, Stone often mocks himself in a line of dialogue from JFK where Michael Rooker's character says, "Now you are calling the President a murderer!"
01:20 - 01:28 11/22/1963 “Suppose Kennedy, don’t run in 64........☠️”. 😩🥺😢😥😭! Fast FOWARD to 2024: “Suppose Trump don’t Run again in 2024.......☠️” 😄😁😆🥳😆😁🥳🥳😁😄🥳🤩🥳! “In order to Truly Defeat The DRAGON, You have to KILL The Dragon. Then we can MOVE-ON with LIFE.”
Nixon's excuse is that he was in Dallas "on business" during ths JFK assassination, but then again, if you have friends and connections in business, you can arrange that sort of thing, if you really just want to be in Dallas to enjoy the festivities. Nixon "forgot" being in Dallas, and changed his story a number of times. I'm 72, and still remember vividly where I was in 6th grade class, when JFK was assassinated.
@jksonny no nothing was gonna stop kennedy in 64' besides a bullet. bobby controlled what got out... although hoover and the kennedys hated each other they did work together when they each had something to gain
Stone gave Nixon more credit than he deserved. Nixon almost certainly did know about the plot and participated to some degree, being present at the infamous meeting LBJ had behind closed doors w/ Nixon, HL Hunt and several other high level conspirators, as stated by his mistress.
Rumor is Nixon uncovered the plot and only mentioned it years later to an attorney saying “Lyndon and I both wanted to be president the only difference is I wasn’t willing to kill for it”
Nixon, the guy who sabotaged Vietnam war peace talks because he wanted to get credit for getting the SAME deal? As such, the guy responsible for the loss of thousands of American soldiers? But I bet you claim to support the troops, eh?
The Cuban guy played by John Bedford Lloyd is awesome creepy. 'Suppose Kennedy don't run?'
John Bedford Lloyd is off the charts.
He deserves his own Netflix spinoff 🤣
Actually, he is playing the part of anti-communist Russian nationalist by the name of George DeMorhenshildt. DeMohrenshildt was a friend of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Sounded Russian. There were White Russians in Dallas in 1963
@TJ Bud "The Car Guy" Smith - What the eff are you talking about??
This movie should be watched with surround sound or some theater-like sound. After the cuban guy says "Suppose Kennedy don't run in 64", when lowers his face there's a low bass explosion-like sound that should give you goosebumps.
Suggesting that he was the one who was going to assassinate Kennedy? Well, he should know this, Kennedy is beloved in America.
Okay, there was a good chance that had Johnson succeeded Kennedy in such an event, he'd probably fail to capture the nation's attention and affection that they wouldn't grace him with reelection. But there's an equally good chance Johnson would actually pull it off.
Larry Hagman is known to everyone as a soap opera oil tycoon.
In this he's legitimately terrifying. So many surprisingly good actors in this film.
I Dream Of Jeannie, baby. We all did...
Sam Waterson scared me in this movie-and I LOVE him on Law and Order and The Newsroom.
@Jim McCracken Which thanks to Ewing money and connections, J.R. was first an astronaut *before* he came back home after his service years to run the family business.
I love how the unnamed Cuban guy is Frank Cosgrove from Ozark and the Mayor from Super Troopers
forget accuracy. Stone and Hopkins tore shit up in this film.
Sometimes a faith symbolic representation goes a much longer way than total accuracy
@@bongoseropersa5240 Heh, heh... That's one phrase for propaganda.
@@HC-cb4yp ok boomer
@@bongoseropersa5240 HAHAHA!
Well, that's disturbing. If you write a film about real people and things that actually happened, you should be accurate.
"Suppose Kennedy wasn't going to run in '64..." *puff puff*
Yeah, okay there Oliver...
it's called dramatization
Eetz called bed rashin aksent make anyting sound nefariooos....
@@ardien.535 according to LBJs mistress, Madeline Brown, this meeting actually occurred.
@Sports Guru Well, I wasn't there. She claims she was, and that the meeting happened. Oh, another thing....you weren't there, either.
@@rayjr62 i have heard that this meeting takes place at Clint Murchison's (owner of the Dallas Cowboys) house.
Can anyone verify that?
RIP Larry Hagman.
The purpose of Larry Hagman's character was to represent the overall big business involvement with politics.
And Ewing Oil.
@@Agent1W LOLOLOLOL....you win the internet today. That's awesome.
Jack is an amalgamation of Clint Murchison and H.L.Hunt the most powerful Texan Oil Barons
The Texas oil men that Eisenhower spoke derisively of.
then how come johnson got elected in 64 and not goldwater
It amazing to know that Nixon was actually in Dallas on November 22, 1963.
i think that he left the day before. the question again and again is with the death of JFK who benefits the most??? LBJ!
He was there on business. Nothing to do with the assassination.
@JackUHU Take your pick. They were all in bed together. And they all had one thing in common- they hated JFK and wanted him out of the white house, one way or the other.
Yes. Interesting. Very interesting....
@@brettsinger9565 yes you know that
Only JR Ewing could possibly be the mastermind behind the Kennedy assassination.
That must also be why J.R. got shot, but who actually shot him?
Maybe he had a genie in his pocket😊
Larry Hagman was perfect for this part!
I call it Nixon meets J.R.Ewing
He was perfect in every role he had. Very underrated actor.
@@mikepetitti agreed, watch his role in Primary Colors
1:28-1:32 that exchange is the heart of the movie that Stone can’t shy away from. Nixon knows if the conversation goes just a step further he’ll be implicated (in the maybe/maybe not fictional plot to kill Kennedy). He won’t have plausible deniability. He wont go THAT far but he KNOWS the men in that room…might
Larry Hagman's character in this movie is just J.R.
That's fine by me
Yes agree
What a great dramatic scene, with no explosions, no cgi, just plain old fashion real life drama! The gravity of this moment is felt when you watch it..the Behind The scenes makers and shakers of our country, talking to a man, basically telling him were going do get rid of Kennedy, so you want to run ... It's a great SCENE!! The setting is dark, the music is ominous, and the acting is superb!! I love it when we get good directors, who know how to show drama on a screen, without telling you what to THINK, or using special EFFECTS to try to wow you..the great directors like , Scorsese, stone, Tarantino. Are so taking for granted, the movies today , for the most part are shit, commercial ads, with a lot of candy on the screen!!! This was a GREAT FILM!
On par with JFK at the very least
This is one of the best scenes in the movie! ❤
J.R. Ewing wanted Nixon to run in 1964? Wow.
With a $h!tpot full o' money....
Nobody's going to defeat Kennedy in 1964. Truer words never spoken. LBJ was on the ticket, but it was Kennedy everyone was voting for.
I’m not so sure. There were a couple of scandals simmering - LBJ and the TFX fighter plane contract. JFK’s popularity declined steadily during 1963. We don’t know for sure what JFK would have done about Vietnam, especially during an election year. He was paranoid about being a democrat and losing Vietnam. If word had gotten out about the secret deal to remove Jupiter missiles from Turkey to resolve the Cuban Missile Crisis, it would have been damaging. Had JFK been able to get the 1964 Civil Rights Bill passed, he would lose the same states LBJ did and if LBJ had to be dropped from the ticket, Texas as well. If JFK was not assassinated, it’s possible a more electable republican nominee would have been chosen that could both win the South and more of the swing states than Goldwater did.
It was JFK’s to lose but it was not a sure bet.
Also Goldwater was a horrible campaigner.
@@emprahsfinest7092 I don't know about that. Goldwater was one of the more charismatic personalities in the senate, a real force out there. He lost because one, America was voting largely on sympathy for JFK, and two, his ideas were a bit extreme at the time - it wasn't until ten years later they realized he was right.
I mean Johnson was a good campaigner, his daisy ad evoked enough reaction to get out the vote. But it's not like Goldwater had any campaign juice.
Such a shame, LBJ did irreparable damage to this once great country, nothing but contempt for him.
@@flyy1006 True. Well it was more the MIC who pushed for it. Johnson personally wasn't as big on the Vietnam war. But yeah, he did blow it, failing to be truthful.
Anthony Hopkins absolutely nails it as Nixon, mannerisms & all. So much better than Frank Langella or John Cusack.
The Larry Hagman character is loosely based on several people, including Clint Murchison, Sr., Howard Hughes, and H. L. Hunt.
0:33, love that swipe.
Nixon mastered the art of timing. After losing the race for California governor, he laid low. The 1964 election was going to be a runaway, regardless of it were Kennedy or Johnson. But Nixon was instrumental in organizing Republican congressional and state government victories in 1966, led to his leading the race for the GOP presidential nomination.
Nixon was very shrewd
@@gaguy1967 Exactly. He learned his lessons after two defeats. Trouble is, he went too far, sabotaging his opponents in 1972 - a race he was going to win anyway, even if he were the target of Watergate, not the perpetrator.
Nixon lost the governor race for two reasons.
1. Kennedy backed Pat Brown and Democrats did well in ‘62.
2. Many voters thought it would be a stepping stone for Nixon to give the presidency another shot.
@@zackcross7190 Well true. Ironic, Kennedy's endorsement led to Browns's victory in California, a state that Nixon won (of course, the stepping stone factor also dampened voters).
On the other hand, had Nixon won in 1960, history would have changed dramatically in the States and across the world. And for that matter, so would Nixon's reputation.
For starters, Watergate would be just a building.
that is an underrated Stone movie. it is so humanizing of Nixon, not a monster but a flawed patriot with high ideals and dark fears.
Except Nixon WAS a monster. He colluded with the S Vietnamese government to sabotage the 1968 peace talks. LBJ thought what he did was litterally treason. The Vietnam War could have been over 6 years earlier and thousands of lives spared. But Nixon thought he could beat the North. In the end they signed almost the same treaty. 21,000 American GI’s died in that time period, not to mention the toll in Vietnamese lives.
He also lied to the families of American airmen killed in Vietnam by telling them they were MIA. Over 2,000 by the end of the war were on the books as MIA when the military knew they were dead. Nixon started the hoax that Vietnam wouldn’t give them back to get reellected in 1972. And now that black flag flies all over the nation, an ignorant reminder of Nixon’s duplicity.
that was frightening then any movie ive seen.
I really like this movie. I love the ending when they use real Nixon footage!
A shit pot full of money 😂😂😂😂only Larry can say it right - and the guy who is says damn right played his part
"Unfortunately, the country's not available right now."
I wouldn't put it behind JR to be involved in such a plot if he was that age in the 60's. :))
RIP LARRY HAGMAN!
Not possible He was too busy on I Dream of Jeannie...
I wonder how accurate this scene is?
Damn Accurate
Very eerire scene. Makes u wonder anyone there was invilved with kennedys getting assasinsted
I didn't know JR Ewing knew Nixon
Sue Ellen introduced Nixon to JR!
JRs best ever role
"suppose Kennedy don't run"
Nixon is the greatest what if President. If not for Watergate how would he be remembered. Ended the draft, ended Vietnam, opened relations with China, detente, ABM treaty,the economy was cooking, founded the epa, Title 9, gave land back to the Native Americans. His approval rating was in the mid to high 60's before watergate.
Don’t forget the moon landing!
@@josephgabello3214 Nixon was so far ahead, he could have been on the receiving end of Watergate and won.
But had it not been for Watergate, Nixon would have been best remembered for ending the Cold War. He almost negotiated victory in Vietnam, probably would have settled peace with Brezhnev at the negotiating table. He might have turned the tide on a slumping economy in the process.
And he won in 1972 in an historic, crushing landslide. Only Massachusetts didn't vote for him. He was very popular.
Someone please post the clip where Dick threatens Murchison with the IRS.
Nixon's final movie should be about a group of shady businessmen who secretly run America! 😄
Even though it's fictional, imagine if this is Jock Ewing making this deal because in Dallas lore, J.R. would be going into the Air Force because of Jock's connections until mid 1974.
It’s like the bizzaro west wing
"JFK is coming to Dallas tomorrow and I guarantee you the people here will run his ass out of town on a coffin... I mean rail."
larry hagman talking about his kids ridding across town with other kids best line ever
JR Ewing advising Hanibal Lector to run for president...
@MJMedin the character he is playing is based on Texas oilman H.L. Hunt
It's hard to suspend my disbelief that this is the inner-working behind the 1964 election when one of the guys talking to Nixon is JR Ewing.
This scene was loosely based off a covert meeting the night before the assignation. Hagman's character is based off of Texan oil tycoon Clint Murchison.
That meeting never took place. The only supposed witness was a convicted forger
While the film was incredibly dramatised and unrealstic hopkins was incredible in the role
unrealistic ? so exactly what was Nixon doing the day before JFK was shot ? Had a good reason for being in Dallas , then met a bunch of murderers. Oilmen ,Cubans etc.
curious item that the camera takes time and audience focus away from the scent and momentarily onto the guy with the cigar pulling up his fly. he obviously returned from urinating --but he zips up his pant as he returns to his chair instead of in the restroom. is the director indicating by this that despite being filthy rich , this 'good old boy' is also extremely crude or has dirty hands?
this meeting is ' dirty ' business.
So was George Herbert Walker Busch ..
Why was the lady giving the hush sign at the end?
It was alluding to keeping quiet about what was going to happen in Dallas the next day.
@@gigipompom8058 The evil of women...
excellent scene....
Nixon was in NYC when JFK was killed.
Word was he stepped out of his car and a woman saw him and screamed.
Yeah, he had that effect on people.
Love it!! Everything a political thriller should be..Keeps you wanting more..Great movie making..I think its called artistic license..The broad facts aren't even in on this story.....
It's the country with the star on its flag that took out Kennedy.
@MikeMJPMUNCH Because he felt that Johnson, a Texan, would deliver the south for Kennedy. Which he did in 1960.
great film
Pax
The Goddess of Peace
Nixon was a guy who came to presidency before time...he was a fine man who would've had changes the course of history
This is a very good , if short , documentary . I didnt know the welsh wore suits let alone travelled abroad in the sixties
this is how things really work in politics.
It’s really not
@Ballerfella2007 In JFK when the Generals are sitting around talking about how "Kennedys tried to make Lem eat shit" (referring to General Lyman Lemnitzer) at the last NSC meeting, there is also a person with this same accent in the conversation.
Thanks for the responce he is a creepy shadowy type of figure it puzzles me? Excellent movie though two thumbs up.
Thanks for bringing that up because I have no idea..."if you ran in 1960, Castro would be dead now." Creepy but I have no idea who he is and Stone did not reveal as such in his commentary. Anyone else?
@@CavingIn2022 Yes, it's okay to reply to a comment from ten years ago. Here's Johnny! That was forty years ago.
@@CavingIn2022 LMAO. Who DIDN'T the Cuban exiles hate? They are some of the most bigoted, racist, anti-Semitic POS's on the planet.
not creepy - factual. If Nixon had won in 1960 ( he did win but the election was stolen - in Texas and Chicago ) , Castro would have been killed.
The way Larry Hagman says, “Texas”, makes me slightly aroused.
And the high-pitched excited tone we often heard of J.R..
The beast....
WHAT IF KENNEDY DONT RUN😢
Ah YEaahhhh….. *exits*
class scene...
"Nobody's gonna beat Kennedy in 64 with all the money in the world."
Well, Richard, you changed that when you put Lewis Powell in the Supreme Court. Buckley v. Valeo, and boom, money dictates elections.
Ah, go back to the election of 1840 if you want to know all about money (and public relations firms) dictating presidential elections.
Powell a former tobacoo lawyer was very concerned about consumer rights law for some reason.
He should have played HOFFA instead.
The film was very good. With some tweaks, I feel it could have been a great film.
How much exactly is a shit pot full of money?
In 1960s era? Dozen of millions. Perhaps more. But Nixon was right. JFK was too popular. People loved him. He would won second term in 64 no problem. By the year of 63 JFK was basically a hero who stopped Communists. None money in the world could change that.
So they had to kill him.
Does anybody know if Dan Hedaya's character Trini a real person or was he based off someone? Regardless who he really was, in the movie was he an assistant, a friend of Nixon or a mobster with this Jack Jones (Larry Hagmans character)?
I am pretty sure that he is based on H.L Hunt oil baron.
+Rashida Ivory clint Murchison
Hedaya's character is based on Bebe Rebozo.
Jack Jones was based on Lamar Hunt and Clint Murchinson.
Trini was based on Bebe Rebozzo
So what was his relation to Nixon?
1:01 Sherif Stucky from Mississippi Burning.
@translationwiz Thanks for the info. I think they show this anti-Castro Cuban in a wheelchair in a later sequence.
Oh my giddy aunt, it's ol' JR Ewing!Fan my brow and raise my rent!
Did they just "indicate "about JFK assassination? ?
what the hell goes on in stones very disturbed mind??????
You pathetic muppet, learn the facts
Agreed. This film is just plain silly.
how can ppl be so naive smh
Francis Ford Copula would have done a good job, including exposing the double crossing Kennedys who went against Italians who had helped them.
It's a fine line between clever and stupid, isn't it?
spinal tap!
“No one is gonna beat Kennedy in 64 with all the money in the world”
I mean he was right about that Kennedy would have destroyed anyone up against him makes you wonder what might have been he Def would have pulled all military out of Vietnam in his 2nd term
No. Why do you think he went to Dallas?
This is a gross misunderstanding. The debate in his administration was about whether to keep troops in or withdraw them AFTER they had defeated the Vietcong, the idea of withdrawing while that was going on was never a consideration. Just whether to keep troops there, like in Germany and Italy and Japan and South Korea, or withdraw AFTER victory.
I doubt JFK would have pulled out of Vietnam in his second term. JFK had Diem murdered , and messed up Vietnam.
Beware Kennedy fan boys....
JR Ewing should have supported goldwater also he supported booby baker to get hos for LBJ
Hopkins as good as he is just never struck me as Nixon at all, just a very talented actor told to do his best. I don't blame him.
@sboudreaux27 Right because of George Wallace
Just another example of Oliver Stone's paranoia.
+LoneNutter1 Yes. What has Nixon done to earn such distrust.
nikosvault It's a movie.
+LoneNutter1 Yeah it's a liiiiitle bit over the top
+ricarleite HL Hunt is a real character. People like this wanted Kennedy out and Nixon in. That is truth. Kennedy was costing a lot of different factions money.
According to LBJs mistress Madeline Brown, this meeting actually took place. It happened at Clint Murchison's ranch house the weekend before JFKs assassination.
Was this made by people that knew Nixon? I think they were biased against him.
0:23 What was that all about? Did he just get back from peeing?
Quite possibly. I always thought that was a strange moment.
He just got done with one of those ladies playing pool in the background... remember they tried to set up Dick with them too
He was at the Pepsi Cola Stockholders meeting that day.
@spoildn8410 There was not much of an audience at the time of the theatrical release. It grew since then but I think many flip out at seeing a 3 hour plus movie about a very unpopular President.
Nixon was popular as Vice President for 8years. Popular in 1960 ,1968 and 1972 ( when he won 49 out of 50 states ).
Nixon was a better man than Kennedy
@eric090909 A conspiracy ultimately implies a group of people. Still, Stone often mocks himself in a line of dialogue from JFK where Michael Rooker's character says, "Now you are calling the President a murderer!"
Wouldn't surprise me if it was Lyndon...
@@JohnEDoey "If the President does it, that means it's not illegal."
One of these days JFK will emerge from a shower.
hi guys, can i make u a cocktail ?
01:20 - 01:28
11/22/1963
“Suppose Kennedy, don’t run in 64........☠️”. 😩🥺😢😥😭!
Fast FOWARD to 2024: “Suppose Trump don’t Run again in 2024.......☠️”
😄😁😆🥳😆😁🥳🥳😁😄🥳🤩🥳!
“In order to Truly Defeat The DRAGON, You have to KILL The Dragon. Then we can MOVE-ON with LIFE.”
Yes take historical facts out for a ride . Oliver Stone the original conspiracy theorist
Hardly.
@tpryce6243 wow what insight you gave . The way you articulated your point of view ....impressive
@@troyzieman7177 Thanks.
who is the character with the accent????
A Cuban anti-Castro patriot
H.L Hunt ?
I HATE THAT MF OLIVER STONE! BUT NIXON IS A GREAT FILM
Nixon's excuse is that he was in Dallas "on business" during ths JFK assassination, but then again, if you have friends and connections in business, you can arrange that sort of thing, if you really just want to be in Dallas to enjoy the festivities.
Nixon "forgot" being in Dallas, and changed his story a number of times. I'm 72, and still remember vividly where I was in 6th grade class, when JFK was assassinated.
Who cares?
@jksonny no nothing was gonna stop kennedy in 64' besides a bullet. bobby controlled what got out... although hoover and the kennedys hated each other they did work together when they each had something to gain
I disagree...W was his last good film.
Stone gave Nixon more credit than he deserved. Nixon almost certainly did know about the plot and participated to some degree, being present at the infamous meeting LBJ had behind closed doors w/ Nixon, HL Hunt and several other high level conspirators, as stated by his mistress.
Wow, that's something. There are a few characters who would have wanted Kennedy dead, now that you mention it.
Rumor is Nixon uncovered the plot and only mentioned it years later to an attorney saying “Lyndon and I both wanted to be president the only difference is I wasn’t willing to kill for it”
@@khabbad But he was willing to commit espionage for it - like that was even necessary.
@@broadstreet21 when did he commit espionage?
@@broadstreet21 unless you’re talking about the Anna Chennault myth
@Faust6688 W was good. It's a lot like Nixon.
Sure, paint Nixon as Satan, we need to admire people like Castro, Stalin, hell, why not Pol Pot?
Why do you engage in this reduction to absurdity?
Nixon, the guy who sabotaged Vietnam war peace talks because he wanted to get credit for getting the SAME deal?
As such, the guy responsible for the loss of thousands of American soldiers?
But I bet you claim to support the troops, eh?
Guys like Oliver stone spin history to fit their point of view and ideals which baffles me because whats the point if its inaccurate
What is inaccurate?
In reality he was pulling political favours left and right for the run in 68.
Dude zipping up pants wtf?
@jeffreyodebrecht3172 Big deal, he probably just finished taking a piss.