Blade Runner had a really good 90’s adventure game where the developers made a bunch of great choices. First off you did not play as Deckard so it’s an original story with only a few of the movie’s side characters (mostly other cops) making vocal appearances. Most of the characters can be either humans or replicants and the status of each is randomized at the beginning of the game so it’s something you have to figure out each playthrough. I think they even got Vangelis to do the music or at least found someone who could do a good impression. The whole thing was a real mood. You could just stand on your balcony listening to synth blues and rain…
@@storyrant It was, though checking Wikipedia now it looks like it got an “enhanced edition” PC and console release 2 years ago, and the original has been on GOG since 2019 so I guess it’s not quite as obscure as I thought.
That discussion of true horror near the end reminded me of the time my daughter couldn’t sleep. She said she was afraid of being alone in the dark. I told her that was a good thing. It would be worse if someone else was in the dark, waiting for you to fall asleep. Apparently I made things worse.
Turning your lightsaber off during a fight is just not a good idea, You're striking at the person, not their sword. The only situation it would work is if your opponent is just standing there holding their lightsaber out in front of them with no intention of following through, parrying or counter-attacking. Why not just use the force to shut their lightsaber off Instead and not leave yourself defenseless against the Uber evil samurai space wizard with low tier precognition
Pretty sure the point of Jigsaw is that he is actually just a typical psychopathic slasher villain, but the catch is he thinks he's doing people a favour cause he's just honestly nuts
Funny thing about M. Night. As a kid I would check out every “scary stories for kids book” I could find at every library I could get to. We moved a lot, so there were plenty of new shelves to pick up books from. I could never find the particular book again but I swear the plot for Sixth Sense was ripped off from a children’s book. I already knew the ending as soon as I watched the first conversation between Bruce Willis and the kid.
I truly can't stand John Kramer as a character. He gets multiple reasons for his actions that try to make him sympathetic (cancer, car crash, miscarriage), and the movies keep trying to argue that he's not a murderer for some reason. I'm always rolling my eyes at the movies... Come on, just let the guy who puts people in death traps be unapologetically evil!
I certainly sympathize with his reasoning at first. But after the first couple murders when revenge is no longer a factor, it starts to just become adherence to a theme as a murderer. (And John saying he always gave them a chance in Saw II really doesn't work, because they started out in a perilous situation that HE put them in to begin with.)
to continue on the point of the reason the engineers created the xenomorphs, i agree that there arent very many good reasons to even create them. However, ill say my favorite origin, although only canon to its own timeline and verse, is the AVP explanation, that the Predator race tasked the engineers with creating the xenomorphs as the pinnacle of the hunt.
In the game Faith: the unholy trinity there is a part where you gotta play an elevator game to reach a secret boss and by doing it you ascend beyond the ten floors of the apartment building. You get the instructions by exorcizing a demon haunting the elevator.
One plot mistake that kinda proves that the body in the center of the room in Saw couldn’t have killed himself with the gun is that it didn’t have a bullet casing into when it was reloaded later in the film. A revolver keeps all the bullet casing in it until it is manually opened. Then when Elwes (I think) opened to reload it, no casing, so it couldn’t have been used in the suicide
The TV show Evil on paramount plus did an episode featuring The Elevator Game and did a damn decent job at making it creepy as hell while not out right demonizing the social media aspect. Evil is such a great horror comedy. I highly recommend it.
Absolutely! 💯 💯 💯 George Lucas himself could come tell me in person that it's not true and I still won't stop believing in it. It makes too much sense. The fact that GL didn't adopt it once it got popular, even if it wasn't his original idea, is such a missed opportunity. It would fit so well into the current narrative.
I really liked In a Violent Nature, but the biggest issue wasn't so much the walking, but that it struggled to build any tension until the end. If they were able to build the tension through the middle third it would be better. I think as a debut director it's an interesting one though
i cant help but agree with karl. I watched saw X in the cinema and i found so annoying because half of those deaths would have been avoided had jigsaw given them like 10 more seconds. i feel like jigsaw, when designing the traps takes into account the time it takes for a personally to mentally process and prepare themselves for the insane amount of pain they are about to go through. I feel like he just assumes no one has that
One of the earliest viral videos I can remember making a real impression on me was called something like "The Incredibly Slow Murder with the Extremely Inefficient Weapon" and it was just 10-15 minutes of a guy being menaced by somebody in creepy makeup who just kept tapping him on the head with a spoon. It's such a ridiculous concept but it made for a wildly effective short film. Or at least one that's infinitely better than In a Violent Nature. I absolutely hated that movie. It ended up being only the 2nd movie I've ever walked out on. I stayed through the yoga kill everybody's been raving about but I honestly found the whole thing to be completely insufferable.
The elevator game was a real challange. Going to the random floors was eventually supposed to make the final floor be an alternate reality and could be done with any elevator.
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Your mentioning of Elevator Game suddenly reminded me of another elevator adjacent 1983 sci fi horror movie called The Lift. I don't know much about its contents, or if it holds up at all nowadays, just that I saw the first 10 minutes of it on TV once. From what I read of the plot synopsis on Wikipedia, it goes in a very different direction than the concepts you proposed that could improve Elevator Game.
By the way, the elevator game is actually a thing. It's supposed to be, if you end up going up, instead of down, on the last floor, you end up in a different dimension. But you don't need to film it.
I gotta stick up for SIGNS a bit, I really liked it when I saw it and i always felt like it wasn’t that weird that water was a weakness when you have stories like war of the worlds where the superior tech aliens end up dying from the flu, which is not an uncommon event for conquering armies in human history. It’s possible the aliens only found out about water once they got here, not unlike the Martians and common illness.
My favorite fan theory about a movie isn't one that I think I've seen anywhere outside of my circle of friends, but when we watched The Greatest Showman we all agreed it was jarring that the movie tried to make Barnum look like a good guy considering how terrible he was but still doesn't make him look great in context. The movie becomes infinitely more interesting when you consider that it's definitely the movie P. T. Barnum would have made about himself if he was alive today, and he still wouldn't realize that he doesn't look like the good guy there, lol.
20:20 Film Head-Canons [Legion] and [Priest] are - unintentional - sequels. They both star Paul Bettany and are directed by Scott Stewart (which just makes it funnier).
my other question is have you seen the horror film neighbour? It’s a gory torture film based in the day and the main character is the killer. No reason why she’s just bored and she’s just going around killing people.
While yeah jigsaw is indeed a killer, and is overly harsh, one thing that sticks in my brain is that alot of his traps are overseen by his apprentices, whose own morals mess with the traps, and while they might still have survived the original design of the trap, the apprentices interference does guarantee alot of them in dying.
I like that Jigsaw is wrong about people not wanting to live enough. He’s a vigilante serial killer with a very black or white philosophy, that would be weird to portray him as correct. There’s a lot of people who think they’re doing the right thing but are wrong no matter the evidence presented to them, that aspect is quite accurate to real life (because Saw films care about real life accuracy lol). Also the only person he ‘saved’ had a mental breakdown, realised he was wrong and turned against him.
19:20 ehh that movies also from b4 wirelessly interfaced devices were so common place. neo being able to affect the tech in the real world isnt so far fetched today…
I *really* love the first SAW movie. The rest of them, naah, not so much. I can understand the creators not wanting the first movie to be seen as "torture pron", because honestly, I don't think it is. The rest of the movies? ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY! But the first one? I really don't think so. It's gross, but it's the stress and the thriller aspect of the story that really gets to me. That's the reason I really love the first one, but gave up on the rest of them after having watched half of the fourth one, as they just kept getting more and more "disgusting just for being disgusting" - not to drive the plot. If you get what I mean?
Yeah, I think it’s pretty funny that Karl talks about how the first film shows Cary Elwes sawing off his foot in “gruesome, visceral detail”, and then it immediately cuts to a clip that goes back and forth between face shots of Elwes and upper body shots of Whannell. Not a tootsie in sight.
It's really easy to make that Elevator movie better just use the concept of social media to it's full advantage have multiple groups using elevators and the "comment section" up the ante every time. How far will people go in a perceived "game"
if you put someone in a machine that kills/mutilates them thats murder…like i dont even understand why this is a discussion, i get that people say it as a joke but they even say it in a sequel which imo is just so dumb and hacky. i didnt think the first one was that interesting but the rest just look awful
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Blade Runner had a really good 90’s adventure game where the developers made a bunch of great choices. First off you did not play as Deckard so it’s an original story with only a few of the movie’s side characters (mostly other cops) making vocal appearances. Most of the characters can be either humans or replicants and the status of each is randomized at the beginning of the game so it’s something you have to figure out each playthrough. I think they even got Vangelis to do the music or at least found someone who could do a good impression. The whole thing was a real mood. You could just stand on your balcony listening to synth blues and rain…
Was it a PC game?
@@storyrant It was, though checking Wikipedia now it looks like it got an “enhanced edition” PC and console release 2 years ago, and the original has been on GOG since 2019 so I guess it’s not quite as obscure as I thought.
There's a remaster available on modern consoles :) and it's still great
That discussion of true horror near the end reminded me of the time my daughter couldn’t sleep. She said she was afraid of being alone in the dark.
I told her that was a good thing. It would be worse if someone else was in the dark, waiting for you to fall asleep.
Apparently I made things worse.
Turning your lightsaber off during a fight is just not a good idea, You're striking at the person, not their sword. The only situation it would work is if your opponent is just standing there holding their lightsaber out in front of them with no intention of following through, parrying or counter-attacking. Why not just use the force to shut their lightsaber off Instead and not leave yourself defenseless against the Uber evil samurai space wizard with low tier precognition
Pretty sure the point of Jigsaw is that he is actually just a typical psychopathic slasher villain, but the catch is he thinks he's doing people a favour cause he's just honestly nuts
Funny thing about M. Night. As a kid I would check out every “scary stories for kids book” I could find at every library I could get to. We moved a lot, so there were plenty of new shelves to pick up books from. I could never find the particular book again but I swear the plot for Sixth Sense was ripped off from a children’s book. I already knew the ending as soon as I watched the first conversation between Bruce Willis and the kid.
Oh yeah I remember those, I think they were actually based off of the movie. Hard to find info about though.
The books I read as a kid were out well before M. Night started making movies. I was 19 when Sixth Sense came out.
I truly can't stand John Kramer as a character. He gets multiple reasons for his actions that try to make him sympathetic (cancer, car crash, miscarriage), and the movies keep trying to argue that he's not a murderer for some reason. I'm always rolling my eyes at the movies... Come on, just let the guy who puts people in death traps be unapologetically evil!
I certainly sympathize with his reasoning at first. But after the first couple murders when revenge is no longer a factor, it starts to just become adherence to a theme as a murderer. (And John saying he always gave them a chance in Saw II really doesn't work, because they started out in a perilous situation that HE put them in to begin with.)
I think its just that the later films forgot he was the villan
to continue on the point of the reason the engineers created the xenomorphs, i agree that there arent very many good reasons to even create them. However, ill say my favorite origin, although only canon to its own timeline and verse, is the AVP explanation, that the Predator race tasked the engineers with creating the xenomorphs as the pinnacle of the hunt.
In the game Faith: the unholy trinity there is a part where you gotta play an elevator game to reach a secret boss and by doing it you ascend beyond the ten floors of the apartment building. You get the instructions by exorcizing a demon haunting the elevator.
One plot mistake that kinda proves that the body in the center of the room in Saw couldn’t have killed himself with the gun is that it didn’t have a bullet casing into when it was reloaded later in the film. A revolver keeps all the bullet casing in it until it is manually opened. Then when Elwes (I think) opened to reload it, no casing, so it couldn’t have been used in the suicide
The TV show Evil on paramount plus did an episode featuring The Elevator Game and did a damn decent job at making it creepy as hell while not out right demonizing the social media aspect. Evil is such a great horror comedy. I highly recommend it.
Best part of it was they just noped right out of there and never mentioned it again.
@@davidmcgill1000 isn't that how almost every episode ends? 😅😂🫠
Darth jar jar is the best theory for the prequels hands down
I am in love with the idea of Darth Jar Jar
@@jaybee8862 same here it's so good
Absolutely! 💯 💯 💯 George Lucas himself could come tell me in person that it's not true and I still won't stop believing in it. It makes too much sense.
The fact that GL didn't adopt it once it got popular, even if it wasn't his original idea, is such a missed opportunity. It would fit so well into the current narrative.
I really liked In a Violent Nature, but the biggest issue wasn't so much the walking, but that it struggled to build any tension until the end. If they were able to build the tension through the middle third it would be better. I think as a debut director it's an interesting one though
i cant help but agree with karl. I watched saw X in the cinema and i found so annoying because half of those deaths would have been avoided had jigsaw given them like 10 more seconds. i feel like jigsaw, when designing the traps takes into account the time it takes for a personally to mentally process and prepare themselves for the insane amount of pain they are about to go through. I feel like he just assumes no one has that
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One of the earliest viral videos I can remember making a real impression on me was called something like "The Incredibly Slow Murder with the Extremely Inefficient Weapon" and it was just 10-15 minutes of a guy being menaced by somebody in creepy makeup who just kept tapping him on the head with a spoon. It's such a ridiculous concept but it made for a wildly effective short film.
Or at least one that's infinitely better than In a Violent Nature. I absolutely hated that movie. It ended up being only the 2nd movie I've ever walked out on. I stayed through the yoga kill everybody's been raving about but I honestly found the whole thing to be completely insufferable.
The funny thing, is that the elevator game is actually a creepypasta that’s about two siblings playing an urban legend game
I didn’t realize you guys were still making videos glad to see you guys back
My favorite part of Old is the dialog they give to the children. They are literally cheering about having Mortgages 😂
"He simply didn't have enough time or blood."
Hearing about that times headline reminds me of a good rule of thumb that anytime you see a headline phrased as a question the answers no
14:43 those chimps look like the ones from Evolution lol, and too funny how this scene looked So close to Ghostbusters. 🤔Chimpbusters? lol😂😂😜😁
The elevator game was a real challange. Going to the random floors was eventually supposed to make the final floor be an alternate reality and could be done with any elevator.
Your mentioning of Elevator Game suddenly reminded me of another elevator adjacent 1983 sci fi horror movie called The Lift. I don't know much about its contents, or if it holds up at all nowadays, just that I saw the first 10 minutes of it on TV once. From what I read of the plot synopsis on Wikipedia, it goes in a very different direction than the concepts you proposed that could improve Elevator Game.
By the way, the elevator game is actually a thing. It's supposed to be, if you end up going up, instead of down, on the last floor, you end up in a different dimension. But you don't need to film it.
glad to see you've not explicitly retired; one of my favorite people to listen to what they have passion for.
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Not to mention anyone who had to cut something off themselves would have died from an infection days later anyway.
I gotta stick up for SIGNS a bit, I really liked it when I saw it and i always felt like it wasn’t that weird that water was a weakness when you have stories like war of the worlds where the superior tech aliens end up dying from the flu, which is not an uncommon event for conquering armies in human history. It’s possible the aliens only found out about water once they got here, not unlike the Martians and common illness.
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My favorite fan theory about a movie isn't one that I think I've seen anywhere outside of my circle of friends, but when we watched The Greatest Showman we all agreed it was jarring that the movie tried to make Barnum look like a good guy considering how terrible he was but still doesn't make him look great in context. The movie becomes infinitely more interesting when you consider that it's definitely the movie P. T. Barnum would have made about himself if he was alive today, and he still wouldn't realize that he doesn't look like the good guy there, lol.
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[Legion] and [Priest] are - unintentional - sequels. They both star Paul Bettany and are directed by Scott Stewart (which just makes it funnier).
I love how we said these would be 20 minute videos. lmfao
my other question is have you seen the horror film neighbour? It’s a gory torture film based in the day and the main character is the killer. No reason why she’s just bored and she’s just going around killing people.
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While yeah jigsaw is indeed a killer, and is overly harsh, one thing that sticks in my brain is that alot of his traps are overseen by his apprentices, whose own morals mess with the traps, and while they might still have survived the original design of the trap, the apprentices interference does guarantee alot of them in dying.
Have you seen the decoys films in this sequel? They have Turnbull in it and they posted them everywhere in the trailer but he wasn’t even in it a lot.
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That is paranoid schizophrenia delusions on point.
I like that Jigsaw is wrong about people not wanting to live enough.
He’s a vigilante serial killer with a very black or white philosophy, that would be weird to portray him as correct.
There’s a lot of people who think they’re doing the right thing but are wrong no matter the evidence presented to them, that aspect is quite accurate to real life (because Saw films care about real life accuracy lol).
Also the only person he ‘saved’ had a mental breakdown, realised he was wrong and turned against him.
He was in charmed playing a demon
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19:20 ehh that movies also from b4 wirelessly interfaced devices were so common place. neo being able to affect the tech in the real world isnt so far fetched today…
I love fact fiend and I hope this is a return to form.
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The saw would be ruined after they tried it on the chains.
The Elevator Game is an old Internet creepypasta, doubt they wrote a full script
I *really* love the first SAW movie. The rest of them, naah, not so much. I can understand the creators not wanting the first movie to be seen as "torture pron", because honestly, I don't think it is. The rest of the movies? ABSO-FREAKING-LUTELY! But the first one? I really don't think so. It's gross, but it's the stress and the thriller aspect of the story that really gets to me. That's the reason I really love the first one, but gave up on the rest of them after having watched half of the fourth one, as they just kept getting more and more "disgusting just for being disgusting" - not to drive the plot. If you get what I mean?
Yeah, I think it’s pretty funny that Karl talks about how the first film shows Cary Elwes sawing off his foot in “gruesome, visceral detail”, and then it immediately cuts to a clip that goes back and forth between face shots of Elwes and upper body shots of Whannell. Not a tootsie in sight.
What were the horror movies mentioned at the end? So i can find them..
Check out a movie called 'The Shrine'.
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It's really easy to make that Elevator movie better just use the concept of social media to it's full advantage have multiple groups using elevators and the "comment section" up the ante every time. How far will people go in a perceived "game"
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if you put someone in a machine that kills/mutilates them thats murder…like i dont even understand why this is a discussion, i get that people say it as a joke but they even say it in a sequel which imo is just so dumb and hacky. i didnt think the first one was that interesting but the rest just look awful
"I didn't kill him, the knife I was holding did"
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Congo...I think that was one of the many movies my uncle insisted having on while we were at his house that gave me nightmares for weeks.
is that the one where the ape used Sign Language with a computer glove that would speak for her?