so the answer is , yes it can be airbrushed , but no it doesn't work as intended . i can see this being useful for painting large flat areas then using the same contrast paint for areas with more texture/folds etc. in order to match the paint color exactly . good video , thanks !
This exact thing is why I searched TH-cam for a video like this. Planning on airbrushing some space marine tanks and wanted to see if I could use the contrast paint or if I needed to colour match a different paint
Thanks for the video Kris, pretty much the next thing I will be trying after trying with the brush. Could you maybe demo some blending between colours/ how to use the medium in another video, pretty please! 😆
It won’t work as intended through an airbrush but it seems like it will give a smoother gradient for a deeper shade of the color. That yellow looked pretty good if you want to give more depth to yellow figures
So they may not work as intended but I can see this application being good for large surfaces such as tanks as that's one area I think these paints really lack
Hey Kris, thanks for testing this for us! Question - what was cleaning the airbrush like? Brush painting with these it's so clear that there are some interesting chemicals being used and I am curious if there are any issue cleaning. I would also love to know how it is to brush contrast over the airbrushed contrast.
missed opportunity to use "See ya later, aligator!" at the end. ;D so technically, they behave somewhat like inks when sprayed. do they still need to be sprayed on light primed models? or can they be used to build up a colour scheme from a dark primer?
But that's the opposite of the effent you usually want to achieve - contrast from an airbrush used on model with such rich texture stays on top and is not going deeper into recesses. So in the end you have darker, thick paint where you should have highlights and light recesses :D
No it doesn't "need" to be thinned. You could if you wanted to. The first iteration of Citadel Colour Contrast paints are primarily transparent and will work on top of a metallic base. Is it the same as a "candy color"? No. They have different finishes. Typical candy colors tend to be gloss where as Citadel Contrast finishes satin/matte. But i suspect this will do what you want it to do.
So it seems that while they don't get the contrast effect when airbrushed, they function as an at least decent airbrush paint. That's my takeaway anyway.
What did you use to thin it down? I'm used to using distilled water for the most part with my airbrush but had heard that Lahmian medium is the preferred thinner for these new paints.
Do you mean by adding a thinner? I would imagine it would apply more gradually and you would have to lay more of it down to build to the same saturation. The result most likely would be very subtle.
@@WayoftheBrush Granted I don't know much about airbrushes but GW did say that you can't thin Contrast paints with water. You have to use their medium. But that would only affect the concentration of pigment, huh? It's just that the airbrush won't really do anything special with it because it is designed to work at a certain thickness and viscosity, right? I can see using it in combination with airbrush paints though. If you're just experimenting, you could try airbrushing a khaki or off-white on the stomach of say, a troggoth, and a green or blue or whatever color you want on its back, and then use a large brush to paint a flesh tone from the Contrast line over both to tie them together. Stuff like that?
It's kind of annoying that even though currently there are very few up close examples of contrast paints in action, the few people that did managed to get their hands on it insist on using in all kinds of ways nobody would ever use contrast paints for, like weathering or airbrushing.
Try holding off on the adds for you other videos until the END! Trying to see the finished product here and all we get is Way of the Brush sticker RIGHT OVER IT! Along with another vid Turbo Dork and your goofy looking mustache. Sigh
@@WayoftheBrush great response. And thank you for the videos. I for one cant wait to try out the contrast paints in a variety of ways, brush/airbrush different base coats, zenithal highlights etc. Do you know if there is due to be a kantor blue sort of shade? May try them on an as yet unpainted marine army project I have on the shelf.
Wow straight to the point and not 5min talking about stool samples! Nice vid!
talking about stool samples?
@@WayoftheBrush maybe he meant to say talking shit? idk
@@TRZ99 Yes was trying to avoid being to vulgar
Straight to the point,and answers the question in the title. Why can't all TH-cam videos be like this?
so the answer is , yes it can be airbrushed , but no it doesn't work as intended .
i can see this being useful for painting large flat areas then using the same contrast paint for areas with more texture/folds etc. in order to match the paint color exactly .
good video , thanks !
Good idea, i had not thought of that.
This exact thing is why I searched TH-cam for a video like this. Planning on airbrushing some space marine tanks and wanted to see if I could use the contrast paint or if I needed to colour match a different paint
Thanks for this one!! I (and I think many others) have been wondering about this.
Great video’s! I was waiting for someone to Try this! Thx alot and keep it up!
Ty for uploading, sharing and taking ur time in doing this video.
Thank you for watching!
Thank you this is so helpful!!!
That actually looks pretty good. I'm getting more keen to try some of this stuff.
I love this kind of vide that just straight up tells me what I need to know, thanks man.
Thanks for watching!
Wow! Thanks Kris, and I didn't even have to sit through a 20 minute long video, thank you! ♥
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the video Kris, pretty much the next thing I will be trying after trying with the brush. Could you maybe demo some blending between colours/ how to use the medium in another video, pretty please! 😆
I may just do that!
Ty bro
Np bro
It won’t work as intended through an airbrush but it seems like it will give a smoother gradient for a deeper shade of the color. That yellow looked pretty good if you want to give more depth to yellow figures
So they may not work as intended but I can see this application being good for large surfaces such as tanks as that's one area I think these paints really lack
The question I wanted to know the answer to
That looked great, and I bet money that it won't ever clog in your airbrush.
What model were you testing on? I like it a lot.
the model is from privateer press. Warmachine/Hordes Minions faction
looks so neat, what paint to thinner ratio would you recommend for this application of paint?
thinner isn't really needed with Citadel Colour Contrast paints.
Hey Kris, thanks for testing this for us! Question - what was cleaning the airbrush like? Brush painting with these it's so clear that there are some interesting chemicals being used and I am curious if there are any issue cleaning. I would also love to know how it is to brush contrast over the airbrushed contrast.
Cleaning the airbrush is fine. This paint is simply a water based product and cleans the same as any other water based paint.
@@WayoftheBrush thanks! Good to know - I'll have to get experimenting!
Could you do a tutorial about painting vehicles with contrast paint in an airbrush?
Yes I can.
@@WayoftheBrush Thanks buddy your Awesome!!!
missed opportunity to use "See ya later, aligator!" at the end. ;D
so technically, they behave somewhat like inks when sprayed. do they still need to be sprayed on light primed models? or can they be used to build up a colour scheme from a dark primer?
lol, damn you're right!
They are transparent color. The black will absorb the reflected light. So prime using bright color or white.
what thinner did you use or did you apply it directly to the airbrush?
No thinner added.
But that's the opposite of the effent you usually want to achieve - contrast from an airbrush used on model with such rich texture stays on top and is not going deeper into recesses. So in the end you have darker, thick paint where you should have highlights and light recesses :D
right, is this what you want from contrast paints? is the airbrush the best way to achieve the desired effect?
So does it need thinned? Do you think it’s transparent? Could I use it on top of a metallic base coat and make like a candy color?
No it doesn't "need" to be thinned. You could if you wanted to.
The first iteration of Citadel Colour Contrast paints are primarily transparent and will work on top of a metallic base.
Is it the same as a "candy color"? No. They have different finishes. Typical candy colors tend to be gloss where as Citadel Contrast finishes satin/matte.
But i suspect this will do what you want it to do.
would applying a shade wash over that ruin the smoothness of the application?
A thinned down shade wash wouldn't hurt. Straight from the bottle should be fine as well.
So it seems that while they don't get the contrast effect when airbrushed, they function as an at least decent airbrush paint. That's my takeaway anyway.
What did you use to thin it down? I'm used to using distilled water for the most part with my airbrush but had heard that Lahmian medium is the preferred thinner for these new paints.
Didn't use any thinner.
@@WayoftheBrush What if you did make it wetter?
Do you mean by adding a thinner? I would imagine it would apply more gradually and you would have to lay more of it down to build to the same saturation. The result most likely would be very subtle.
@@WayoftheBrush Granted I don't know much about airbrushes but GW did say that you can't thin Contrast paints with water. You have to use their medium. But that would only affect the concentration of pigment, huh?
It's just that the airbrush won't really do anything special with it because it is designed to work at a certain thickness and viscosity, right? I can see using it in combination with airbrush paints though.
If you're just experimenting, you could try airbrushing a khaki or off-white on the stomach of say, a troggoth, and a green or blue or whatever color you want on its back, and then use a large brush to paint a flesh tone from the Contrast line over both to tie them together. Stuff like that?
@@WayoftheBrush Thank you.
Cool, did you thin it at all before hand or use it neat?
neat. It is such a thin body paint that no thinning is necessary.
@@WayoftheBrush great thanks
Did you need to thin the paints or did they work as is?
As is. You could thin them but it really isn't necessary.
@@WayoftheBrush awesome thanks
Was this done straight from the pot or did you have to thin it?
straight from the pot. Contrast is very thin.
So no then. It doesn’t work as intended when airbrushed
Have you run Shadewash through the airbrush? similar result.
Indeed that's what I took from that. It will travel through an airbrush, but it won't do its party trick.
but does it paint my minis by itself?
that remains to be seen...
@@WayoftheBrush can you make a video about it? put a pot or a bunch next to a mini and see what happens after a while
It's kind of annoying that even though currently there are very few up close examples of contrast paints in action, the few people that did managed to get their hands on it insist on using in all kinds of ways nobody would ever use contrast paints for, like weathering or airbrushing.
I think GW covers general application of the paint well enough. I am simply answering peoples questions about this stuff.
Pretty sure I would want to try these through an airbrush, Kris also did a live demo showing brush application that was over 2 hours long so....
Here you go for weathering with them.
th-cam.com/video/9V7Imu5fxZI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. Not too impressed by this look. Looks like any other airbrush paint tbh...
Try holding off on the adds for you other videos until the END! Trying to see the finished product here and all we get is Way of the Brush sticker RIGHT OVER IT! Along with another vid Turbo Dork and your goofy looking mustache. Sigh
Maybe try being less of an entitled prick.
I adjusted the duration of the end screen. But I'm keeping the goofy mustache!
@@WayoftheBrush :)
@@WayoftheBrush great response. And thank you for the videos. I for one cant wait to try out the contrast paints in a variety of ways, brush/airbrush different base coats, zenithal highlights etc. Do you know if there is due to be a kantor blue sort of shade? May try them on an as yet unpainted marine army project I have on the shelf.
Kantor blue equivalent? I haven't gotten that far in my testing yet.