The mapping tool is cool, but admittedly since there were 4 of us playing together back in the day, it was nice that we had tasks to divide up -- one at the keyboard, one mapping, one keeping notes, etc. Thanks for unlocking so many tucked-away memories!
Late for the party, but man, did this game kick my butt! Also the mapping tool is glorious! I remember spending more time drawing the map than playing the game itself xD Good times!
this map grid looks like it can be used for allot of games your super smart knowing about this stuff thanks for helping thos that wish to learn to get back into these types of games.
Agreed! I've also found it hard to find a good let's play of this game. Especially now with the modern remake just launching. I find it's important to remember where it all started. I've so many memories of playing this back in the day, and I will say the remake is brilliant! They've captured EVERYTHING that is here, but with modern graphics.
Didn't know the program even existed. I remember, very very well, back when I was Playing: Wizardry V: Heart of the Maelstrom for the snes, I made the map with pencil and paper. Vertical using letters & Horizontal using Numbers. It was the Old Fashion way and the right way of doing it. Thank you for this video.
Great video thank you for the memories. Another great way to map the games is with a spreadsheet app like Google sheets or Excel. Just resize the cells into perfect squares and your pallette is the toolbar.
What game is he referring to around 46:23? I'm not a native English speaker so I didn't really understand what he said but I want to look it up. Thanks!
I know this is an old video, but you should not have your bishop in the 3rd slot. The first 3 characters are for melee attack, and they can be melee hit by monsters. You should have a priest in that 3rd slot because they can fight and also heal.
I remember getting addicted to this on the Apple ][e I used to lug a machine from work home in a suitcase (on foot) and up 5 flights of stairs and play all weekend without sleeping. After a while I was waking up in the middle of a dream where I was actually in the game, yelling out spells! I was interested in the game play and tools now availalble, but the video didn't hold my attention... I skipped and skipped and skipped till it got going (about 41 minutes in he says "We're good to go!") and we actually start exploring the maze. I really wanted to get to level 9 because, in my game I had worked out some cheats to double up my gold and had found a gold ring... the ring cost like a million gold pieces (or something ridiculous) so I doubled up till I had around 6 million and got this ring, which turned out to be "cursed", so I paid like a million to get it uncursed and when I did - it was gone! I never actually solved the entire maze, because I couldn't get through the last level, I could only seem to go round it in a narrow ring around the centre. I think the ring had teleport powers, but since it was gone I wondered if that was my punishment for daring to have enough gold which, presumably, could only have come from cheating. Spoiler alert below - how to double gold to double gold.... go to the Inn thingy, transfer all gold to one character, then back him up delete all other chars and roll new ones (who get more gold) and transfer all gold to that one character again - keep repeating. I've got a feeling I might have been backing up a char, then renaming him and reloading him again too. I can't remember now. It takes a bit of OCD spadework, but soon I had PLENTY of gold.
@@NickBurnham1 Thanks for thanking me after I was a little negative about your video not holding my attention, but, as usual I've been on the computer all day and am a bit fatigued too. Yeah the 80's was an exciting time in so many ways as the computer thing was just taking off and very few people even knew what they were about. I had already been into electronics and communications, which was the kind of background most of my peers came from in those days and the general public at large hadn't a clue what you could do with computers. Most of the revolutionary things and basic stuff all began on the Apple. No other machines had colour for example. Then they brought out sound cards, etc. It was fascinating to see the early developments, like music & speech recognition - even a robot arm (which we programmed to have it press the reset key, thus committing suicide) :) It was on the Apple ][e that I first saw spreadsheets, chess, and many many games as I knew a few geeks and we collected and shared games. Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards started on the Apple ][e as "Soft Porn Adventure" and was really cleverly done. There was Choplifter (which I loved) Sargon chess, and a brilliant musical kaleidoscope, then Castle Wolfenstein and Space Quest (same people as SPA - and again, highly creative use of the primitive graphics of those days. Amazing era as music went electronic, punk came out, MTV started and stuff like Pink Floyd's The Wall and Tommy were just amazing. The global concert for Live Aid was something I'll never forget. Max Headroom was on the TV and I loved that too. There has never been a decade like it. The early Apple Mac came out and when that went colour that was a revolution in its own right. If I had a time machine...... ;o)
@@NickBurnham1 One question I have is that will this work with any dos game? I see some are noted on the website as having special coding but how well does it work for other non listed crpg games?
I agree, although having to press different keys for each option is very inefficient and uncomfortable. It's beyond old-school rawness; it's just not good.
That map program seems nice. I haven't used it for this game but I have for Ultima, but the auto draw doesn't seem to work. Don't know why, I think I have it on.
I remember playing this on an Apple 2+. If you shut off the power to keep from dying, you got a 10 year aging penalty. They took that out of newer versions.
Those characters are in the maze because someone took them there and the party died. You have to leave open slots and take them out... Maybe 2-3 at a time if you want to play it safe.
is there a step by step manual how to set up a dos game for grid cartographer? I only could find a manual for GOG and STEAM games. My wizardry is from old floppy and I have no idea how to integrate it in Grid cartographer.
Hey! You'll need to play it through the Game Link version of DosBox from here: gridcartographer.com/download/#clients You'll have to get your Wizardry files onto your computer somehow or download them from an abandonware site first.
You need to find the install folder, and then replace the "Dosbox" folder in it with one supplied on the grid Cartographer site. Then you need to change one line in the largest config file from "output: overlay" to "output: gamelink" and you should be ready to go, unless you've downloaded a premade map that you wish to use.
@@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da Nah, it's easy. You just have to open the game with the gamelink version of DosBox from here gridcartographer.com/download/#clients and run Grid Cartographer.
@@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da David Walters has made a special DosBox folder that is used to replace the default one installed with these games. Then all you have to do is edit one line of the larger config file to go from "output: overlay" to "output: gamelink" then you start grid cartographer, (Optionally, load up a pre-made map for the game) and then you start the game itself.
Always love watching someone playing Wizardry and that's a very interesting mapping tool. Thanks for sharing!
I remember being so thrilled when I got the mystic blade Cuisinart! :P
The mapping tool is cool, but admittedly since there were 4 of us playing together back in the day, it was nice that we had tasks to divide up -- one at the keyboard, one mapping, one keeping notes, etc. Thanks for unlocking so many tucked-away memories!
Thanks for watching! That's fascinating to hear, I didn't get to experience dungeon crawling back in the day, but it sounds great.
I played this back-in-the-day (the 1980's) on a C-64 and loved it. Good times!
Late for the party, but man, did this game kick my butt! Also the mapping tool is glorious! I remember spending more time drawing the map than playing the game itself xD Good times!
Thanks for watching! Yeah it's super difficult lol. I'm hoping the new remake brings in a lot of new Wizardry fans.
Really loved this let's play. Wizardry it's a pretty good c-rpg albeit a pretty unforgiven one. Glad you decided to play the NES version too :)
thanks for watching!
Good news to see you back again Nick!! :)
Dhomochevsky good to be back! Thanks for watching :)
Two years late to watching this, but really enjoyed it. A shame there won't be any follow up episodes, but thanks for this one!
Thanks for watching, and I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
this map grid looks like it can be used for allot of games your super smart knowing about this stuff thanks for helping thos that wish to learn to get back into these types of games.
Agreed! I've also found it hard to find a good let's play of this game. Especially now with the modern remake just launching. I find it's important to remember where it all started. I've so many memories of playing this back in the day, and I will say the remake is brilliant! They've captured EVERYTHING that is here, but with modern graphics.
Yes your def the only channel worth watching this game from. No lie lol
I remember playing this game years ago. We really did it old school with a pencil and graph paper.
Didn't know the program even existed.
I remember, very very well, back when I was Playing: Wizardry V: Heart of the Maelstrom for the snes, I made the map with pencil and paper.
Vertical using letters
&
Horizontal using Numbers.
It was the Old Fashion way and the right way of doing it. Thank you for this video.
Great video thank you for the memories. Another great way to map the games is with a spreadsheet app like Google sheets or Excel. Just resize the cells into perfect squares and your pallette is the toolbar.
Glad you're back!
Thank you! Glad to be back ^_^
I am interested in seeing you continue
I loved this game back in the day
I need to play more of it, probably will try the NES version instead next time.
It seems brutal
25:00 - Mentioning Palom and Porom from Final Fantasy 4
I loved this game.
I was terrible at it and never beat it but damn, I loved it.
What game is he referring to around 46:23? I'm not a native English speaker so I didn't really understand what he said but I want to look it up. Thanks!
Etrian Odyssey series. Thanks for watching!
@@NickBurnham1 Thank you!
Gutted that this was the only video you did....
I know this is an old video, but you should not have your bishop in the 3rd slot. The first 3 characters are for melee attack, and they can be melee hit by monsters. You should have a priest in that 3rd slot because they can fight and also heal.
I remember getting addicted to this on the Apple ][e I used to lug a machine from work home in a suitcase (on foot) and up 5 flights of stairs and play all weekend without sleeping. After a while I was waking up in the middle of a dream where I was actually in the game, yelling out spells!
I was interested in the game play and tools now availalble, but the video didn't hold my attention... I skipped and skipped and skipped till it got going (about 41 minutes in he says "We're good to go!") and we actually start exploring the maze.
I really wanted to get to level 9 because, in my game I had worked out some cheats to double up my gold and had found a gold ring... the ring cost like a million gold pieces (or something ridiculous) so I doubled up till I had around 6 million and got this ring, which turned out to be "cursed", so I paid like a million to get it uncursed and when I did - it was gone!
I never actually solved the entire maze, because I couldn't get through the last level, I could only seem to go round it in a narrow ring around the centre. I think the ring had teleport powers, but since it was gone I wondered if that was my punishment for daring to have enough gold which, presumably, could only have come from cheating.
Spoiler alert below - how to double gold
to double gold.... go to the Inn thingy, transfer all gold to one character, then back him up delete all other chars and roll new ones (who get more gold) and transfer all gold to that one character again - keep repeating.
I've got a feeling I might have been backing up a char, then renaming him and reloading him again too. I can't remember now. It takes a bit of OCD spadework, but soon I had PLENTY of gold.
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience! Must have been such an exciting time back in the Apple II days.
@@NickBurnham1 Thanks for thanking me after I was a little negative about your video not holding my attention, but, as usual I've been on the computer all day and am a bit fatigued too.
Yeah the 80's was an exciting time in so many ways as the computer thing was just taking off and very few people even knew what they were about. I had already been into electronics and communications, which was the kind of background most of my peers came from in those days and the general public at large hadn't a clue what you could do with computers. Most of the revolutionary things and basic stuff all began on the Apple. No other machines had colour for example. Then they brought out sound cards, etc. It was fascinating to see the early developments, like music & speech recognition - even a robot arm (which we programmed to have it press the reset key, thus committing suicide) :)
It was on the Apple ][e that I first saw spreadsheets, chess, and many many games as I knew a few geeks and we collected and shared games. Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of the Lounge Lizards started on the Apple ][e as "Soft Porn Adventure" and was really cleverly done.
There was Choplifter (which I loved) Sargon chess, and a brilliant musical kaleidoscope, then Castle Wolfenstein and Space Quest (same people as SPA - and again, highly creative use of the primitive graphics of those days.
Amazing era as music went electronic, punk came out, MTV started and stuff like Pink Floyd's The Wall and Tommy were just amazing.
The global concert for Live Aid was something I'll never forget. Max Headroom was on the TV and I loved that too.
There has never been a decade like it. The early Apple Mac came out and when that went colour that was a revolution in its own right.
If I had a time machine...... ;o)
Apple IIe was where I became addicted to this game
Love these old school RPG games 😊
Finally a decent let's play
Yeah, it's great. If you wanna hear Nick ramble on like a senile old lady.
Great video, I will purchasing this software this weekend, never seen it before but my god it will be great for ultima to automap for me.
Thanks! I highly recommend it, bet your Ultima map will look awesome
@@NickBurnham1 One question I have is that will this work with any dos game? I see some are noted on the website as having special coding but how well does it work for other non listed crpg games?
@@jonathont5570 You can still use the tool with other DOS games, but unfortunately, it won't be able to automap where you are in the game
Regarding the meta humour, I've always found it funny that these games tend to be more immersive than modern games, not less.
I agree, although having to press different keys for each option is very inefficient and uncomfortable. It's beyond old-school rawness; it's just not good.
@@unsiliquaria Honestly, I usually prefer it. Modern control schemes often make me feel limited.
That map program seems nice. I haven't used it for this game but I have for Ultima, but the auto draw doesn't seem to work. Don't know why, I think I have it on.
The PC version is bugged compared to the Apple II version. The chance of losing stats at a level up is way too high.
Agreed. The trick is to let the stats go below 0.... then you'e all set.
I remember playing this on an Apple 2+. If you shut off the power to keep from dying, you got a 10 year aging penalty. They took that out of newer versions.
Those characters are in the maze because someone took them there and the party died.
You have to leave open slots and take them out... Maybe 2-3 at a time if you want to play it safe.
is there a step by step manual how to set up a dos game for grid cartographer? I only could find a manual for GOG and STEAM games. My wizardry is from old floppy and I have no idea how to integrate it in Grid cartographer.
Hey! You'll need to play it through the Game Link version of DosBox from here: gridcartographer.com/download/#clients You'll have to get your Wizardry files onto your computer somehow or download them from an abandonware site first.
You need to find the install folder, and then replace the "Dosbox" folder in it with one supplied on the grid Cartographer site. Then you need to change one line in the largest config file from "output: overlay" to "output: gamelink" and you should be ready to go, unless you've downloaded a premade map that you wish to use.
SOPHIA, NOOO!! Why, why did it have to be her the monsters got? What 250 gold to bring her back? Sorry but I got bills to pay...
What mapping tool is this? And which system is this version of Wirzardy for?
Grid Cartographer and DOS
Is this program worth if I want to play older games? I was trying to play M&M1 with just paper maps, but it is very time consuming.
I think so! If you like this kind of game I think it's great
@@NickBurnham1 How you play a game, you have to add it into this program or open it. Install complicated?
@@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da Nah, it's easy. You just have to open the game with the gamelink version of DosBox from here gridcartographer.com/download/#clients and run Grid Cartographer.
@@Katsura_ja_nai_Zura_da David Walters has made a special DosBox folder that is used to replace the default one installed with these games. Then all you have to do is edit one line of the larger config file to go from "output: overlay" to "output: gamelink" then you start grid cartographer, (Optionally, load up a pre-made map for the game) and then you start the game itself.
Are you planning to do another video for this?
Probably not this version of Wizardry, maybe the NES one in the future
Anyone notice this was put up on April 1st. Was this an april fools joke lol
No, legit this is how old people play games.