My friend told me that the biggest advantage of developing effortless power is that, once you have that, then when you do add lots of muscle you can give the ball TRIPLE power!
I know (x3) that it’s 1 thing @ a time here, BUT... I couldn’t help but notice that his non-dom arm just drops down lifelessly by his side and brakes the rotation of his upper body. Would you agree that his next step would be a deliberate retraction of his outstretched left arm, which would either a. initiate his upper body rotation or b. at least not inhibit it?
Excellent video Ian. The progression is wonderful. As a coach I will use it when working with my students. The students awareness of tension or lack of is very important as well. I work with someone who’s strokes are very mechanical and I’m sure working on her awareness of tension will work wonders to her stroke and finish. Great job. These videos where you work with students are invaluable.
Great video. Thank you. With my juniors and high school players, I talk about rolling the ball or making the racquet turn like a windshield wiper. I like the focus on top to bottom with the leading edge. I am always looking for new terminology when I feel that a player is not "getting" it.
WOW! In the first 3 minutes I got a lot. I already have a pretty good topspin forehand but I got 3 tips to work on to make my forehand is more effective. I'm going to check to make sure my body uncoils correctly, make sure my arm is straighter and make sure the base of the racquet finishes correctly. Great lesson Ian! BTW, the coach I've been going to for practice always comments on what he calls my "big forehand" but I know it can always be better.
Ian , I watch your lesson . You are good coach to guide payer get to the point and your steps to guide player to f eel what you want them to understand . Great !
Very helpful video. ESP when I heard you refer to his elbow feeling better with this technique. Currently nursing very bad tennis and golf elbow which flared during a game where I realize now I was muscling the ball with poor follow through. Unfortunately, I chose to continue playing as arm continued to worsen( very stupid on my part. I know better). As a beginner, it seems to me as one uncoils upper body,hitting arm is kept relaxed and straight,but not forcing elbow extension, allowing racquet to hit ball and arm to follow through because of built up inertia from body uncoiling. Correct? Definitely an addition to my saved tennis videos.
Thank you so much for sharing this information!! I watched this video for the first time an hour before my match this morning. Played the same player as I did last Sat with vastly different results. Last week I struggled to Win 1-6, 6-4, 7-6 and this week I Won 6-1, 6-1... effortlessly Can’t wait to play again. You guys ROCK!!
That was awesome!! Have you done any videos focusing on hitting the ball early ? Many of us arent necessarily tightening up our elbow as this gentlemen at the beginning but we do get tight when we hit the ball late.
Fed and other pros contact the ball with their racquet arm at a 45-degree angle in front of their body. Their chest is rotated forward. Their arm is extended at a 45-degree angle from their body (some with elbows straight like Fed. Some with elbow bent like Djokovic). The dominant shoulder is always in front of the non-dominant shoulder at contact. Their swingpath is often NOT an exaggerated low to high angle, but rather only from slightly below the ball and the racquets face travels not through the ball, but rather it strikes a glancing blow up and across the ball as the and continues across the body and into the follow through with the racquet face, not aiming toward the side fence, but rather forward toward the opponent's side of the court and sometimes slightly pointing downward.This swing motion and rotation of the entire racquet arm, and NOT the exaggerated turn of the forearm or wrist, is what imparts topspin and power into the shot. It's the physics of leverage created by these mechanics, bio-mechanics, that amplifies the effort of the body's muscles and launches the the racquet into powerful contact with the ball without overly excessive effort required from the player. The result is the ultimate in a tennis shot: power under control.
Watching the video right now but I can't help but notice you are wearing some vivo barefoot! I love the shoes myself, but for playing tennis what do you wear? I'm looking for a shoe with a wide toebox but with stability for tennis! Any shoe suggestions?
I'm new to tennis but would it be accurate to say that his shoulder is hitching up a bit? I will speculate that he might be automatically doing this to compensate for his elbow problem. But now with his new fluid stroke he should be able to relax fully! Great video
That guy seems like such an easy student to work with. Easy in terms of how fast he adapts to new movements and relearns habits .. of course we don't see all the reps going in off camera.
Very nice, very true and very important! This explains why girls with arms like matchsticks can hit so hard. I will work on this for the coming indoor season. Thank you very much.
Indeed, great credo! Maybe a little unrealistic, but hey, aren’t they all? I like it and will gladly pay you a royalty fee each time I use it, heh-heh...
I watched the entire 2 day session (except for the one-handed backhand part) and it was really interesting. I don't know his level but he did seem to underplay what he could potentially do with his forehand. Technique looked really good even before the change you made. His left arm hang down after contact, which seem to not be the case as much before the change, maybe normal when focusing on something new, but wondering if you ever comment on anything else than that ONE THING, at least before you send the student home? Asking for someone who still can't focus on one thing at a time:-) I haven't worked on the release myself, but I've worked for a very long time on relaxing my arm and hand when hitting my forehand. In a group lesson, the coach asked us to hit our forehand when only holding on to the racquet with 3 fingers. I was the only one who could do it and it didn't really change my stroke, the rest of the group were struggling and one had so much pain trying to hit with 3 fingers only, she had to stop. It just shows how tight most players hold on to the racquet and I tend to fall into the same trap in match play.
It's not easy to be less tense if this has been a part of the stroke for a long time. The 3 fingers exercise is good for feeling what it may feel like when you hit with less tension, but is unlikely to teach you how to do it, as a lot of factors such as stroke mechanics are also related. For example, if you are hitting late and using the arm to force the ball, doing the same thing with 3 fingers will make very little difference to change it - but it may alert you that you're doing something fundamentally wrong (which seems to have been the case with the group lesson you referred to).
That was a very interesting video. One thing that stood out for me is how straight Federer's arm was on his stroke. For all I do I can't achieve this and I have a pretty decent and strong forehand (I'm a 5.0 player). However I have a question for you Ian. Does the forehand grip a person uses affect the stage (if at all) that the top edge of the racquet become the bottom edge?
Nice improvements on the swing. Next step is to fix the new stroke technique. Then he might try to improve legs or coild/body rotation. If he learns to get more power from his upper body than his arm, his shots will even get more speed without hurting his arm. But most importantly, big progression compared to his forehand before Ian's coaching. It was not only hurting the elbow, but also his shoulder. Now he needs to keep practising the new stroke technique to protect himself from returning to his old habits.
Ah-ha moment around 2:53; "allow it [racquet] to turn over...not that he flipped it manually..." bio-mechanics is so critical for generating power and ensuring endurance for long, long matches
Hard to tell from the video but was his handle grip potentially too small for his hand? I'm a size 4 or 5 and I hate demo'ing racquets that are like size 3 or God forbid 2. That also causes lot of tension in my grip and mishits. Great video
Are you saying/ suggesting a grip change would also solve tension problem? If you master relaxation during your swings you won't grip any grip tight any more. It only a matter of preference at that point what you are used to. If your hand is like in a death clamp, how do you expect the rest of your arm to be totally relaxed? If feel that I have to hold on more with a big grip & tightening up. I have see that with students even more. A grip size is also some what of a personal preference. Also a smaller grip can be made bigger. Most big grips can't be downsized easily. From a sales point of few there for a size 2 & 3 are perfect. Most shops would pick up on your preferences & adjust the grips size. If you go online testing you get what you pay for, I feel.
@@atrem7942 right, so if you're using too small a grip size you will feel like the handle will spin so you hold the racquet stronger than necessary if you had the correct grip size
like 5 days ago i was playing a tennismatch, I was playing very well but then when the second set came I literally couldn't hit a single forehand right. I've been training everyday and my forehand is coming back, but does anyone know how this could happen? I went from a solid forehand to a beginners forehand
I’m confused with the teaching point here. In several other videos, you mentioned the contact point only lasts 3mS and whatever happens after doesn’t matter anymore. But here you are trying to change his swing AFTER the contact point. Why is that ? Thanks in advance
Keeping all of the different parts of the Essential Tennis universe in sync must be really difficult. I swear I saw a video where you "interviewed" the new guy, but for the life of me I can't remember where. I'd started to think it was just a joke you'd done to entertain yourself during quarantine until today when he showed up in a video.
i really wish you corrected his racquet take back to be on the same plane/side of the body instead of going all the way back like a WTA forehand as part of the same lesson :)
His previous swing was old school (even Agassi or Sampras like). Now is a combo of old school with modern tennis. Racket face is open on back swing and the wiper on follow through. Hmmmm.... Good analysis though of the stroke, and I like the progressions.
Причина зажатости руки в замахе. Разгоняется ракетка и улетает вперед дальше, чем нужно, поэтому мужик держит её силой и ведет зажатой рукой. Это необходимо для него при таком замахе. Они взяли и убрали зажатость руки, а замах не скоректировали. То есть причина осталась не тронута. Рука, через несколько ошибок снова зажмется. Вывод. Ничего не изменилось в ударе. Исправили последствия и вторичные реакции на основную ошибку. Ошибка осталась нетронутой.
His preparation is wrong. Looks like baseball or golf. His never gonna get "effortless power" until he fixes that. I think you should teach him that before wrist turn and follow-through.
Wait so u are telling me this beginner guy here in blue shirt is actually a coach helping ppl for money ? have to be a bad joke ... If u are licensed coach somehow my brain gonna blow
My friend told me that the biggest advantage of developing effortless power is that, once you have that, then when you do add lots of muscle you can give the ball TRIPLE power!
I know (x3) that it’s 1 thing @ a time here, BUT... I couldn’t help but notice that his non-dom arm just drops down lifelessly by his side and brakes the rotation of his upper body. Would you agree that his next step would be a deliberate retraction of his outstretched left arm, which would either a. initiate his upper body rotation or b. at least not inhibit it?
Note: even before you corrected his stroke, his left arm just hung down. Is this the next thing you’d address?
This is a great video! Its an eye opener. I didnt realize that I was having lots of tension. Im gonna try this out.
Excellent video Ian. The progression is wonderful. As a coach I will use it when working with my students. The students awareness of tension or lack of is very important as well. I work with someone who’s strokes are very mechanical and I’m sure working on her awareness of tension will work wonders to her stroke and finish. Great job. These videos where you work with students are invaluable.
Excellent to see how you transformed his fh. Looks much better.
Great video. Thank you. With my juniors and high school players, I talk about rolling the ball or making the racquet turn like a windshield wiper. I like the focus on top to bottom with the leading edge. I am always looking for new terminology when I feel that a player is not "getting" it.
Love it, Matt!
WOW! In the first 3 minutes I got a lot. I already have a pretty good topspin forehand but I got 3 tips to work on to make my forehand is more effective. I'm going to check to make sure my body uncoils correctly, make sure my arm is straighter and make sure the base of the racquet finishes correctly. Great lesson Ian! BTW, the coach I've been going to for practice always comments on what he calls my "big forehand" but I know it can always be better.
Ian , I watch your lesson . You are good coach to guide payer get to the point and your steps to guide player to f eel what you want them to understand . Great !
Very helpful video. ESP when I heard you refer to his elbow feeling better with this technique. Currently nursing very bad tennis and golf elbow which flared during a game where I realize now I was muscling the ball with poor follow through. Unfortunately, I chose to continue playing as arm continued to worsen( very stupid on my part. I know better). As a beginner, it seems to me as one uncoils upper body,hitting arm is kept relaxed and straight,but not forcing elbow extension, allowing racquet to hit ball and arm to follow through because of built up inertia from body uncoiling. Correct? Definitely an addition to my saved tennis videos.
Sorry to hear about your arm, Howard! Yes, you should NOT be forcing any kind of extension through contact.
Thank you so much for sharing this information!! I watched this video for the first time an hour before my match this morning. Played the same player as I did last Sat with vastly different results. Last week I struggled to Win 1-6, 6-4, 7-6 and this week I Won 6-1, 6-1... effortlessly Can’t wait to play again. You guys ROCK!!
That was awesome!! Have you done any videos focusing on hitting the ball early ? Many of us arent necessarily tightening up our elbow as this gentlemen at the beginning but we do get tight when we hit the ball late.
Thanks for watching! Here's a video about hitting on the rise: th-cam.com/video/X5RzALUWp88/w-d-xo.html
I love this analysis!
Thanks for watching!
I'm using a serve pro to help me with tension on the swing
Fed and other pros contact the ball with their racquet arm at a 45-degree angle in front of their body. Their chest is rotated forward. Their arm is extended at a 45-degree angle from their body (some with elbows straight like Fed. Some with elbow bent like Djokovic). The dominant shoulder is always in front of the non-dominant shoulder at contact. Their swingpath is often NOT an exaggerated low to high angle, but rather only from slightly below the ball and the racquets face travels not through the ball, but rather it strikes a glancing blow up and across the ball as the and continues across the body and into the follow through with the racquet face, not aiming toward the side fence, but rather forward toward the opponent's side of the court and sometimes slightly pointing downward.This swing motion and rotation of the entire racquet arm, and NOT the exaggerated turn of the forearm or wrist, is what imparts topspin and power into the shot. It's the physics of leverage created by these mechanics, bio-mechanics, that amplifies the effort of the body's muscles and launches the the racquet into powerful contact with the ball without overly excessive effort required from the player. The result is the ultimate in a tennis shot: power under control.
Watching the video right now but I can't help but notice you are wearing some vivo barefoot! I love the shoes myself, but for playing tennis what do you wear? I'm looking for a shoe with a wide toebox but with stability for tennis! Any shoe suggestions?
Excellent analysis and progressions!
Since when has Zach Galifianakis been hired as a coach assistant?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you made my day, man!
Beat me to it. I was thinking isn't that the dude from Hangover. Uncanny! :)
I was more surprised seeing John Cena on a tennis court. But he's quite doing well. :D
😂
I'm new to tennis but would it be accurate to say that his shoulder is hitching up a bit? I will speculate that he might be automatically doing this to compensate for his elbow problem. But now with his new fluid stroke he should be able to relax fully! Great video
To the kind you that’s reading this.
You are unique and likable, stay happy and healthy during this pandemic. Bless you.
That guy seems like such an easy student to work with. Easy in terms of how fast he adapts to new movements and relearns habits .. of course we don't see all the reps going in off camera.
Very nice, very true and very important!
This explains why girls with arms like matchsticks can hit so hard.
I will work on this for the coming indoor season.
Thank you very much.
Explains how *boys* with arms like matchsticks can hit so hard too. 😘
Great job, fantastic progression
Superb session... now repeat, repeat, repeat!
Don’t practice until you get it right, practice until you can’t get it wrong!💭
Exactly! Thats a great motto!
Indeed, great credo! Maybe a little unrealistic, but hey, aren’t they all? I like it and will gladly pay you a royalty fee each time I use it, heh-heh...
Thanks Ian for this vdo. I have this exact same problem. I’ll practice from here 👍
I watched the entire 2 day session (except for the one-handed backhand part) and it was really interesting. I don't know his level but he did seem to underplay what he could potentially do with his forehand. Technique looked really good even before the change you made. His left arm hang down after contact, which seem to not be the case as much before the change, maybe normal when focusing on something new, but wondering if you ever comment on anything else than that ONE THING, at least before you send the student home? Asking for someone who still can't focus on one thing at a time:-)
I haven't worked on the release myself, but I've worked for a very long time on relaxing my arm and hand when hitting my forehand. In a group lesson, the coach asked us to hit our forehand when only holding on to the racquet with 3 fingers. I was the only one who could do it and it didn't really change my stroke, the rest of the group were struggling and one had so much pain trying to hit with 3 fingers only, she had to stop. It just shows how tight most players hold on to the racquet and I tend to fall into the same trap in match play.
It's not easy to be less tense if this has been a part of the stroke for a long time. The 3 fingers exercise is good for feeling what it may feel like when you hit with less tension, but is unlikely to teach you how to do it, as a lot of factors such as stroke mechanics are also related. For example, if you are hitting late and using the arm to force the ball, doing the same thing with 3 fingers will make very little difference to change it - but it may alert you that you're doing something fundamentally wrong (which seems to have been the case with the group lesson you referred to).
Where did you watch the rest of the session? I'm only seeing this one video.
That was a very interesting video. One thing that stood out for me is how straight Federer's arm was on his stroke. For all I do I can't achieve this and I have a pretty decent and strong forehand (I'm a 5.0 player). However I have a question for you Ian. Does the forehand grip a person uses affect the stage (if at all) that the top edge of the racquet become the bottom edge?
Nice improvements on the swing. Next step is to fix the new stroke technique.
Then he might try to improve legs or coild/body rotation. If he learns to get more power from his upper body than his arm, his shots will even get more speed without hurting his arm.
But most importantly, big progression compared to his forehand before Ian's coaching. It was not only hurting the elbow, but also his shoulder.
Now he needs to keep practising the new stroke technique to protect himself from returning to his old habits.
Who is the new coach?
Very enlightening
What grip is your student using? Sometimes seems Eastern, sometimes semi western?
Ah-ha moment around 2:53; "allow it [racquet] to turn over...not that he flipped it manually..."
bio-mechanics is so critical for generating power and ensuring endurance for long, long matches
Hard to tell from the video but was his handle grip potentially too small for his hand? I'm a size 4 or 5 and I hate demo'ing racquets that are like size 3 or God forbid 2. That also causes lot of tension in my grip and mishits. Great video
Are you saying/ suggesting a grip change would also solve tension problem? If you master relaxation during your swings you won't grip any grip tight any more. It only a matter of preference at that point what you are used to. If your hand is like in a death clamp, how do you expect the rest of your arm to be totally relaxed? If feel that I have to hold on more with a big grip & tightening up. I have see that with students even more. A grip size is also some what of a personal preference. Also a smaller grip can be made bigger. Most big grips can't be downsized easily. From a sales point of few there for a size 2 & 3 are perfect. Most shops would pick up on your preferences & adjust the grips size. If you go online testing you get what you pay for, I feel.
@@atrem7942 right, so if you're using too small a grip size you will feel like the handle will spin so you hold the racquet stronger than necessary if you had the correct grip size
Relaxation is key
like 5 days ago i was playing a tennismatch, I was playing very well but then when the second set came I literally couldn't hit a single forehand right. I've been training everyday and my forehand is coming back, but does anyone know how this could happen? I went from a solid forehand to a beginners forehand
I’m confused with the teaching point here. In several other videos, you mentioned the contact point only lasts 3mS and whatever happens after doesn’t matter anymore. But here you are trying to change his swing AFTER the contact point. Why is that ? Thanks in advance
good job on him, but still a problem, there is no body turn at follow through, just his arm 18:14
Let it go. Let it flow. Roger and Rafa sure do this well on their forehands. Really feels like a free swing.
Keeping all of the different parts of the Essential Tennis universe in sync must be really difficult. I swear I saw a video where you "interviewed" the new guy, but for the life of me I can't remember where. I'd started to think it was just a joke you'd done to entertain yourself during quarantine until today when he showed up in a video.
Can you do a video about how to play when you're fatigued?
i really wish you corrected his racquet take back to be on the same plane/side of the body instead of going all the way back like a WTA forehand as part of the same lesson :)
One thing at a time.
Skywalker nothing wrong with WTA style.
who is the beard with the guy growing from it?
His previous swing was old school (even Agassi or Sampras like). Now is a combo of old school with modern tennis. Racket face is open on back swing and the wiper on follow through. Hmmmm....
Good analysis though of the stroke, and I like the progressions.
Agassi is modern swing.
It's better, but Justin needs to keep rotating his shoulders during the finish. See 20:19.
I like the reference to Pickleball
New to this channel but main guy has a very strong resemblance to thomas middleditch
Причина зажатости руки в замахе. Разгоняется ракетка и улетает вперед дальше, чем нужно, поэтому мужик держит её силой и ведет зажатой рукой. Это необходимо для него при таком замахе. Они взяли и убрали зажатость руки, а замах не скоректировали. То есть причина осталась не тронута. Рука, через несколько ошибок снова зажмется.
Вывод. Ничего не изменилось в ударе. Исправили последствия и вторичные реакции на основную ошибку. Ошибка осталась нетронутой.
is this dude a giant???
He looks a bit like John Cena
😆
First
His preparation is wrong. Looks like baseball or golf. His never gonna get "effortless power" until he fixes that. I think you should teach him that before wrist turn and follow-through.
Did Kirby grow a beard? Not liking her new look.
😆😆
Wait so u are telling me this beginner guy here in blue shirt is actually a coach helping ppl for money ? have to be a bad joke ... If u are licensed coach somehow my brain gonna blow