The way he said “hey there tubbo’s chat, it’s me Wilbur soot.” Is almost identical to the way he said “HEY THERE! ITS ME! WILBUR SOOT!” As a way to introduce the first ARG. I CANT WAIT TO WATCH THIS UNFOLD
It was so jarring seeing the whole stream during this part. When Tommy returned with a dirty face, fingers, and such an uncharacteristic blank expression, I was starting to suspect this was more than just an ongoing bit. Props for Tommy's acting skills for making the entire chat either concerned for his wellbeing or suspecting that this could be the start of the ARG 👏👏
@@dababyissusy3839 ARG is short for Alternate Reality Game, an interactive type of storytelling that involves using the real world or social media as a setting.
If Tommy is in it, everyone's in it. Especially both billzo and aimsey. Aimsey is so concerned and billzo is just hating on Tommy. This isn't normal. He also isn't gonna just start it out of no where. Everyone of them knows about it and is involved some way even if only a little. Wilbur isn't like that, he's not just gonna start it out of no where, where no one knows what's going on. Especially if they are in the video/stream/vod whatever. Think about Wilbur's last arg. It was never solved cause it was to convoluted. No one knew what was part of it and what wasn't, he hid stuff within itself and within itself. Like a box within a box within a box.
I dont think they knew it but i suspect Ranboo knows whats happening while the rest of the gang reaction was to genuine to be fake although that's just only my speculation
@@jmporraskun1293 i think at least most of them knew theyre tommys friend and they could call him at any time if they were really really concerned but no one even suggested it
@@summe6221 yeah I agree if they were genuinely worried and concerned I feel like they would have ended stream or tubbo would have gone off to check on him to make sure. Not to mention if they were actually worried I don't think they would have locked him outside.
At 7:02 Billzo (I’m pretty sure) mentions that “the bit is over” and then directly after Tommy says to Wilbur “they’re trying to break the fourth wall” as if what was happening was planned between all of them. Earlier Tubbo also says something about not wanting to play anymore, hinting to the arg
I think it's an ARG because, throughout the entire stream they also said "why is tommy here?!", "why is he even here?!" Tommy blinks in morse code "STOP" Wilbur isn't having a fun Halloween and his voice is much deeper than usual. Tommy has been listening to Wilbur a ton. (Or too much..) When Tommy goes out the window he is LOCKED outside, when he comes back in he is covered in mud and is just emotionless. He stares in one spot only, he also wears a blue jacket instead of red. When Ranboo tries to make Tommy laugh, he just stares at him then goes back to spacing out. Also, if he was really this sad about this Tubbo would have ended the stream. Also, why would they lock out Tommy. They know whenever they go outside they just stay by the window then head back in. Those are my reasons why- EDIT : AIGT KIDDOS I GOT A THEORY- So, we know that from the start Tommy was wearing his red and white T-shirt and hoodie. At some point, Wilbur tells Tommy to go outside. So he does, Tommy goes outside. He bangs on the windows begging to come in, eventually walks away. Wilbur must have done something to make Tommy be all in mud and dirt, *Wilbur* made Tommy do something so bad it must had traumatized him. Probably that's why he came back all emotionless and sadness, he constantly kept putting his head down (I think, I might need to rewatch- Also I'm writing this at 12 AM sleep deprived-). When he leaves and comes back he's fine, that might mean his part for that character has ended on the stream. Now another theory that I had was that I feel like it was Tommy's character from the DSMP, you know, c!Tommy. When he switched into the blue jacket it was like his character was over, again this is a theory so- If you do have any theories please PLEASE reply I really wanna see it 2nd Edit: NVM I REWATCHED IT AND TOMMY WAS STILL ACTING WHILE WEARING HIS BLUE SWEATER.. *what if he was cold..?* 3rd Edit: Yeah no i realized tommy was telling freddie to keep the window locked *i was sleep deprived ok dont yell at me SOB-*
They locked Tommy first, when Freddie goes to unlock Tommy, Tommy yealls and bangs at the window saying something like "NO! NO! GO BACK DONT UNLOCK IT" and he seems stress when Freddie did unlock it then runs away
It’s got to be ARG. So many factors point towards it. Wilbur said a new one would start in October, the others seems very unbothered by the strange behaviour, it’s halloween (the perfect time for a spooky themed ARG which ties into the body hiding theory) And Wilbur has been working on projects for a while. It all seems to add up. What are your theories?
He already started the Ghost Hunting one (idk when rn) but I think this Halloween it’s going to be continued (I think he said he wanted to continue it soooo)
8:27 i take this as "i need to make sure that this is visible to the viewers" personally, and also 10:10 he is *so close* to breaking but he masks it fairly well i believe. This is really good acting ngl
It's either Tommy digging or he climbs on a tree then feel off into a bush(leaves on his hair because there is no way you get leaves on your hair while digging). Remember that Wilbur tell Tommy to do things, and it's not there usual "Tommy following Wilbur because he wants to be like Wilbur/wants to trust Wilbur". Wilbur's voice is like commanding to Tommy do these things he will hurt himself or his friends. There are alot of clips of Tommy just hurting himself: drowning himself during apple bobbing, literally collapse on the floor then laugh it off as like nothing happened, repeatedly banging his head on the table even when Freddie is stopping him, Tom and Will says alot of death/killing related sentences. Tommy also goes off camera several times. Its a theory that arg!Will is controlling arg!tommy and Tommy is trying to save himself from hurting others to hurt himself.(Like how panicked he is when Freddie goes to unlock the door for he to come back in again but Tommy just "No no! lock the door go back in dont unlock it" then just runs away off camera similarly how wilbur runs away when he hears something when he is first introduce in the arg) Anyways I vouch for Crimeboys arg Edit:5:24 "There's too many...too may..." Tommy what are you implying?!?!?!
And the fact that arg!Tommy was blinking STOP in Morse code could be like he’s trying to get rid of possibly arg! Wilbur controlling him. OR it could be.arg!Tommy telling himself to stop listening to Wilbur!
Ok so, my theories. - there's hoodie!tommy and tommy, similar to what wilbur did with the glasses. Except this time, h!tommy would actually be Wilbur "possessing" Tommy. Not suggesting did/osdd, more like two diff entities. Not sure if it's Wilbur so will b referring to as h!Tommy. Notice how Tommy does whatever wilbur says while on call? - Tommy is dirty from digging something- a grave? - Around the time where Tommy is just sitting there, he has a weird blinking pattern, people put this into morse code, it spells "s-t-o-p". My theory is, Tommy is trying to communicate as h!tommy doesn't allow him to speak. He could be asking h!Tommy to stop or trying to get help from rest of cricketcrew. - Not shown here but Tommy bangs his head on the desk and says "leave me" possibly asking whatever is "possessing" Tommy to, well, leave him. (been informed that he said "lizzie" but I'm keeping it in anyway) Wilbur on the call also says he's having a bad day so that could def be something. Anyway, just my theories, let me know what you think!
i think there was something coming at them tommy said to keep the door locked and sit down and ran away. wilbur and tommy might just have commited a crime, tommy ran to help will and welp now the child needs therapy, or some paranormal shit happened
bro can you like....... give me some of your brain cells?????? Thats so good !!!! And if this is actually the start of the ARG like.... you got stuff out from almost nothing wow!!!
dude tommy was literally asking tubbo which tripod he could off someone with, and then he said “yeah tubbo said that if i use the… (inaudible)” to will, and then comes back looking like he literally has just committed murder
I don't know if this helps but at 2:05, when Wilbur said that Tommy should beat all of them, Billzo told Tommy "I would absolutely spin your jaw, you MUPPET". Maybe he is implying that Tommy is controlled by Wilbur and does everything that he says. What do you think? I really want to hear your thoughts about this!
we're still pretty early into the ARG if it is one and that could've been on impulse of trying to act tough or to scare tommy but that does work because tommy was listening to wilbur a little to much like you would think tommy would say no to some of the things wilburs asking him to do but tommy just goes along with it so this could be right
Quick Update Guys: A lot of people think that Tommy blinking is morse code. So me let inform you guys, it's definitely not. We tried morse code and got jibberish. I even went as far to try Caesar Cipher with all 25 shifts on the output of the Morse Code, and even tried 42 different keys for a possible vigenere cipher. But nothing worked. So, even if it is an arg. There are no huge clues as of right now. And, I would definitely not suggest theorising before there is any concrete evidence because that's a waste of time.
I have no life I’m writing down all possible important points to this possible ARG. Thank you for informing me on the Morse code thing I was unsure and I have done no theorizing as of yet though I grew up on MatPat
All the maybe morse codes Tommy is doing 7:38 The way he blows on the window in patterns 10:36 This bit when Ranboo removes hi hands off the table, we can see Tommy blinking weirdly Like he is waiting an opportunity for Ranboo to take off his hands so the chat can see what he is doing Bonus: We see before that Tommy is done talking to Wilbur before he goes outside the second time but when he goes outside we see him talking to his phone again and this is was before he disapeared to whatever the fvck he is doing.
**listen closely** What are they saying? And in 5:30 Tubbo knows what’s going on, he seems to want to laugh but Tommy covers it by making himself look weird
Tubbo seems hesitant to let Tommy go through with whatever he and Wilbur are talking about-"don't, don't do that" but for the *listen closely* bit it sounds like Tommy says "this is/it's a part of the ARG" and then Tubbo allows it (could be about Tommy getting locked outside and covered in dirt & leaves??) Tommy 'looking weird' when he stands up is because he is now playing his ARG persona and Tubbo is probably amused because at Tommy's character or because he knows something ARG related is about to happen
Heres my theory - at the time stamp 6:08 , wilbur was saying something about us having a happy Halloween and a marvellous evening. Then he said "but I'm not", and when william asked if he liked to talk about it, wilbur said "sorry I dont talk to williams". What if someone with the name "william" did this???
btw if you didn't know, the guy that asked if he wanted to talk about it's name is not William, it's Bill. Tommy said that kinda out of nowhere, which further confirms your point
I watched the stream yesterday and I was legit worried about how Tommy was acting. To be honest, Tommy's weird behavior really freaked me out while watching the stream. But now that I see this video and the comments, I can tell that Wilbur stated in his reaction video on Game Theory, that he indeed might be a cool idea to start ARG around Halloween, to give a spooky theme.
I realized it when someone in chat said “ARG?”, and I immediately connected ARG to Wilbur, realized he was talking in the phone with him before, saw that the bit was going on for way too long and no one seemed to be concerned by his behavior, all of these point to an ARG and if it’s not well I’m really concerned for Tommy
Here’s a summary of the things that I noticed from Tommy’s conversation with Wil, but it’s really hard to hear so some things may be totally wrong. If I missed something please let me know. 🙂 At the beginning, Tommy complains that he’s saying things he doesn’t want to and something about dismembering. At 1:18 he mentions a Lamborghini. Since when did either Wil or Tommy have a Lamborghini?! Then he says the rooms are crap and that “they” were making him do weird things. Wil tells Tommy to fight them one by one and take them down. Tommy replies with “she’s proper nimble.” And Wil says she will be difficult to fight. They both complain about “ Williams” and Billzo gets feisty. Wil says something and Tommy mentions knives and asks what to do with them. Tommy then asks Tubbo if a metal tripod could do either bash his head or do something to his gut. Wil and Tommy mention something about a “bone sword?” Idk and then about a water staff and choking. And then Tommy’s bit behind Tubbo, which mentions a contest that Tubbo has to win and apparently Easter. Then the plugs and Wil’s mic message. Tommy when he’s taking something off the mic says that they are trying to break the fourth law but he won’t let them. When Tommy goes outside he does a lot of scraping and banging with a metal something. When Tommy goes outside again, he yells and bangs on the window to keep the door and window locked and to not let them in. He runs away in the same hurried and frightened manner Wil did in his first episode of the editor arg. At the end, when he comes back in, Tommy’s covered in dirt with leaves in his hair, and he remains subdued and quiet the rest of the video, spacing out constantly and not saying a single thing except “I’m fine” or “it’s okay.” Take this how you will. But I’m so excited for this next ARG as I missed the last one. (Holy crap, thanks for the hundred likes! :D)
when I tried to listen to what Tommy says to BadLinu, we can only hear obviously the "NO NO" hitting the window, or the other if I remember correctly he says "Do Not, Go Back in" and then he says "No Go Back " and then leaves like Wilbur did in his arg
Didnt anyone notice? When tommy went out to call wilbur, he came back with mud all over him. But once he changed into a BLUE hoodie, he was suddenly happy And ghostburs "blue" makes everyones sadness go away
**GASPPP** I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT! I thought about the color change too but I thought it was him getting rid of the red/Tommy ending the bit but that's REALLY COOL
STOPP I JUST THOUGHT THE SWEATER CHANGE WAS TO SHOW HIS PERSONALITY CHANGE THING KINDA LIKE WILL’S GLASSES IN THE FIRST I DIDN’T EVEN THINK OF GHOSTBUR
I cannot stress how good in acting Tommy is he looked like he was going to cry at one point, the way he doesn't break character, and how he completely change the vibe from joking around to creepy and really uncomfortable. some people genuinely got worried that he got hurt or something
I had a weird idea of what if we never see Wilbur Soot at all in the arg, just tommy and/or other actors. Wilbur Soot will just be there by voice, idk- That would actually be more scarier if you think about it. He wouldn't even show himself, he'd just be a headless, faceless, body less voice on the phone controlling and commanding a defenceless teen. Fuckin, big mystery shit all over again.
@@ferret_lover2665 well an arg can have many and I mean MANY way to start and lead also there just many a lil too many odd thing about that whole stream, it could also be authentic reaction since it could be a selective people are in it and some not, but let wait and see
I made a list of this that was not normal 1. When tommy said “Will, you gotta stop making do weird things” 2. When tommy asked about the tripod saying “if I hit someone in the head will the be knock out” 3. Tommy blocking the window. 4. When tommy left and came back with mud and leaves on his face, hands and, hands. 5. After coming back was so quiet and on the verge of tears (Which is not normal for him online) And that’s all I have for now. I think arg has just begun.
that is a good theory and i think that really could be apart of this ARG if it is one because of the evidence in this video but the thing is he had leaves in his hair so that leaves the question what really happened? some people say he might've climbed or attempted to climb a tree but I think he was running from something/someone and tripped
@@abbi.studios i mean thats true though, maybe he was running and then he tripped and got leaves all over his head, but the question is who was he running away from?
@@serarix That is a very good question because I don't necessarily know but he could've been running from Wilbur but that's very unlikely. But one thing is too is that people were saying that Tommy may have been hearing voices in his head and my mind automatically went to 'he's probably trying to escape the voices'. which could be true but I think he could've called wilbur in a panic because he didn't know what to do and wilbur told Tommy to do a favor or something for him and told him that the voices would go away and that's how he ended up sad, numb ect. and that could explain why he had mug on his face and hands. and another reason I think this could be possible is because he was basically doing whatever wilbur told him to do and if he did call wilbur Tommy is very vulnerable and will do anything to make the voices go away at that point so again that could explain why he had mud on his face and hands
wilbur mentioned when he watched the channel Game Theory (they were analyzing and trying to solve his first arg) that making an arg for halloween would be fun. Im pretty sure that's whats happening now
Probs but all there ppl trying say some wild stuff like more code. Morse code would take months to learn just to blink it out. If anything the farest id go is that his hoddie depict his mood. Red being dangerous/scared and blue beinf happy/joyful
@@JT-dx3xt like how dream smp but with real life and real people acting in it it pretty cool check out mat pat theory about this if you want to go deeee
I was super skeptical at first, but after watching the video I have some thoughts. EDIT: At the bit where it says listen closely, I had to listen very hard twice but at 5:19 tommy says quietly "This is the beginning of the ARG", tubbo nods immediately after. he might have just collapsed there out of the way of the camera and almost out of the mic's range to let tubbo know that next bit was starting so tubbo knew to suggest locking tommy out. - One, if wilbur was starting a new ARG during someone else's stream it means everyone here was in on it. I wasn't paying attention earlier today really but the way they're talking is a bit different than usual and they're pointing out in the beginning how Will's requests over the phone are odd when that isn't really something they would outright say. If tommy was actually acting that way they would have been a bit more private about pointing out it was of because they were on camera, they were pointing out it was off because they were expecting it. - 6:05 I watched the matpat video on the last wilbur soot arg a few days ago and that was literally all I saw of it so I could be far off but the phrase "Autumnal vibe" sounds specific and planned. And just wilbur's voice too. He also mentions that he's not having a good night, once again something sreamers wouldn't really say seriously on stream. Also could be overanalyzing this but just the way tommy reacted to wilbur's words sounded like he was waiting for them and for that specific phrase. Will started his last ARG on someone else's channel rather unexpectedly, so on tubbo's stream wouldn't be far off. - When Tommy goes outside for the first time he quickly comes back in. maybe will wasn't ready or something I don't know, it was a live stream so more trial and error maybe. But then tubbo suggests they lock the doors and the others are getting up to do it, suggesting they were in on it again. Then tommy makes an excuse to run back outside and when badlinu goes to open the doors, tommy starts baning on the window and he's telling him to go sit back down. The only thing I can think is that Wibur was there and for some reason Tommy didn't want him to get outside. Will was asking on the phone if hitting someone over the head with a metal tripod could kill them. So. - Then tommy comes back inside covered in dirt, I'm guessing having to do with will. Something happened and that's the reason why he's quiet, whatever will did could have likely been the first event of the arg.
so many things from this stream point to a new wilbur ARG. In September, wilbur said he was gonna try and star a new one near Halloween (in a week). Wilbur's voice was deeper, he referred to himself as wilbur soot (what he did in his ARG). Ofc wilbur was telling him to do things and he di them, and he also left and started yelling, dissapearing and coming back muddy, not speaking and looking scared or being his normal self at all. He went to the bathroom (apparently) and came back with a blue jacket. it all adds up to a possible new WilburSoot ARG.
tubbo keeps looking at the camera twice after things tommy did, such as falling over 5:20 , or going outside, or when he pulled leaves out of tommy's hair 10:12 , which happens when you are nervous. looking at the camera, then realising you are, then looking away too fast, then looking back to try and not look suspicious. also has anyone seen if aimsey tapping on the table is anything?
9:26 you can see that he’s panicking about something but I’m still not sure what, he seems very stressed as well I think maybe something was chasing him? And he didn’t want them to unlock it so they couldn’t get hurt? Or maybe Wilbur did something idk if you guys have any ideas pllzzzzzzzzz tell me :)
Keep the ideas going so far it seems -wilbur needed tommys help, tommy told them to keep the door locked. -wilbur asked about a tripod(metal) Posibbly killed someone then burried a body (the mud) and we dont see the door so dont see if he took anything with him likley no as there wasnt anything when be was banging on the window. -When tommy returns from the bathroom hes in a blue jaket maybe because he (was cold) I know thats the other arg but still -The same intro as the other arg: Hey there! its me! Wilbur soot! -High posibility for morse code, might be something when we brighten outside(maybe not) -At 1:40:45 in the stream when questioned about being gone he ignores it and sings"when I go back to the water, never really going (????)" something about water again like in wilburs first arg(again I know its not the first one) -Wilbur says "he doesnt speak to williams" his name is will/william I doubt this is just a "bit" tubbo would have ended strem if tommy was genuinly sad and he almost broke character here - 10:10 ill update this.
Okay hear me out Will told tommy about some plan right, what if that planned failed and caused tommy to run back as quick as possible and thats why tommy is like that and how tommy looks scared about sum
@Bin HaiAnh maybe.. idk it just seems like he’s being more over the top than usual in that specific part. Although I won’t lie, I’m known for overthinking lmao
@Bin HaiAnh billzo isn’t the guy to start thing out of no where and actually it really weird why he even in this stream in the 1st place, sure they’re friend they would obviously invite him but there are other people in the specific area too some I would even say closer to the group so billzo seem like an odd choice for me aleast
@@whatyalokingat1735 well Aimsey and Billzo were both visiting Tubbo like two days earlier, they did a couple streams together before this one so they were already there. And then obviously Tommy was invited to the party and Freddy lives near Tommy and wanted to come along.
Wilbur states that he doesn't trust Williams. He himself is a William from what I recall, is this him stating that he doesn't trust himself? Game Theory theorised that Wilbur accidentally killed someone in the Editor Wilbur ARG and if that is correct, this could be a reference to that
this!!! and why would tommy refer to bill as william if that’s not his name? the only reasons i can think of is that it was just a joke OR he wanted wilbur to say he doesn’t trust williams
I thought it might be to underline that this Wilbur that's speaking on the phone to Tommy is a character whose only name is Wilbur and not the real person (=William "Wilbur Soot" Gold)
Theory- Wilburs ARGs whole idea centred around him “doing something embarrassing”, I think that the exact same thing has happened to Tommy. And we’ve just witnessed the before and after of that embarrassing thing. And think like how Kye was the one who knew about what Wilbur had done, Wilbur us the one who now knows about Tommy and Tommy now knows the original embarrassing thing Wilbur did. So either, the ARG may be around Wilbur trying to help Tommy so he doesn’t end up in the same position or worse or, they both are going to try and get each other, “fired” like how Wilbur tried to kye fired as they both now know the truth. Just an idea. I can’t wait for this though ahhhhhhh
I think it’s unlikely Wilbur would use any of the same ideas from his old arg, he’s said he made a lot of mistakes with it and didn’t really like it that much so I’d imagine he would try to make something different
Maybe the ARG'S are connected.think about it,why wouldn't he started the ARG earlier. And why in tubbos stream. The args may not be directly connected, but more like a parallel universe??
can i just say, bc no one else seems to have picked up on it, maybe its cuz most ppl cant lipread but just before Tubbo closes the curtain at 7:22 - 7:27, you can see tommy mouth/say 'help' as though something has already gone wrong. (also english major here, i love that i can put my inference skills to the test in wilbur's ARGs bc i have so many theories, and im very attentive so eeeeeeeeeee)
i have a theory, i think wilbur has killed something, and tommy was forced to help him bury the body (or relocate it). the stabbing and bleeding thing could be a threat. THIS could mean that the ARG has been going on for months, back when tubbo and ranboo discovered th tree demon that they think is living in the back garden. THIS would explain why the two did a random ghost hunting stream too, and thats why i think he may be relocating it, just in case. ALTERNATIVLY, tommy could have asked that because he hit someone with whatever it was he was talking about, and accidentaly killed them. wilbur could be an accomplise in this, but tommys expression matches the theory, being traumatised
i thought this was just tommy being tommy but that direct stare into the camera and the "HAHA 'SCUSE ME GUYS HEHAH. HAHA" is a little too on-the-nose i think
Things that might be possible Didnt anyone notice? When tommy went out to call wilbur, he came back with mud all over him. But once he changed into a BLUE hoodie, he was suddenly happy And ghostburs "blue" makes everyones sadness go away This is not mine It goes to someone else.
THINGS I NOTICED I have no idea what these mean, it just seems like this stream is riddled with potential clues •When Tubbo asks Tommy if he wants the stream to hear Wilbur, Tommy sounds kind of panicked and says “no no no I just want to speak to him.” Kinda s u s s y •WILBUR LITERALLY SAYS “why is it lit like _ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO DIE_ •Tommy tells Wilbur on the phone, “it’s going a little wrong” and then assures him that nobody else can hear him •Tommy says he has to speak to Wilbur alone because “we have to make sure it’s going okay.” •Tommy tells Wilbur “I keep saying things I don’t wanna say” •THE CAMERA CUTS JUST SEEMED SO EERIE- PROBABLY NOT A CLUE BUT IT JUST ADDED SUCH AN OMINOUS FEEL •Wilbur tells Tommy he should fight them and “take them down one by one” •Tommy asks Wil “what do I do because the knives are out right now” •Tommy tells Wilbur the knives won’t be able to penetrate anyone •Tommy asks Tubbo questions about the tripods and how much damage they’d do and passes on the information to Wil •Tommy tells Wil “I’ve never wielded a bow (I think he says bow???)” •They talk about chucking something (presumably knives) •Wilbur tells Tommy to do something to Tubbo (I didn’t hear what exactly but some form of harm) •I feel like when Wilbur told Tommy to collapse he was hoping Tommy would land on Tubbo, maybe suffocating him or making him fall into his knife? •The rest of the gang all express how much they dislike Tommy and ask why he’s even there •The camera randomly goes black •AT 6:07 WHEN WILBUR IS TALKING IT SOUNDS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE “Hey guys! It’s me! Wilbur Soot!” FROM THE EDITOR WILBUR ARG AJAJSJSJRKJCK •Wilbur says “I hope you’re all having a marvelous evening because I’m not” •I found it odd how Billzo is the only one confused/concerned (other than aimsey maybe) about what’s going on, and how Wilbur says “I don’t speak to William.” I just feel like those two are connected in this arg somehow •Tommy says he needs to carve Tubbo •TOMMY LITERALLY YELLING AT FREDDIE TO KEEP THE DOOR LOCKED- WHEN HE GOES TO UNLOCK IT TOMMY POUNDS ON THE WINDOW AND YELLS “NO NO! SIT BACK DOWN! KEEP IT LOCKED!” •Some people were saying he was blinking “stop” in Morse code but I’m currently memorizing Morse code and it just looked like gibberish to me 😟 What I think I think it’s a bit too early for theories, but I think that Wilbur was definitely plotting to kill everyone there (mainly Tubbo for some reason) and I think maybe the reason why Tommy wanted to keep the door locked was because maybe he was in the middle of killing someone/something and he didn’t want it to run inside the house? But I definitely think he was burying a body of some sort. Maybe Wilbur said he was having a bad night because things are, as Tommy said, going a bit wrong? idk what do y’all think
Cuz Tommy says “I keep saying things I don’t wanna say” maybe he’s loosing control of his body and he wanted to keep the door closed in fear he was going to loose control and kill them .maybe Tommy is possessed or something ?
My theroies based on the video: - Giving Tommy's unusual behaviour such as Tommy wanted to film his conversation with Wilbur when he stated himself it should be a private call. Tommy collapsing when Wilbur told him to and him banging against the windows to not let him inside the house. I think that Tommy is being controlled by Wilbur, following his orders like a puppet and his puppet master. Fast forward to Tommy going outside to talk to Wilbur. The rest locked him out as a joke. Badlinu was going to unlock it but Tommy says,"Keep it locked! I can't go back in." This might be a little message to them, "Don't let me in. I might *hurt* you if you do." But Badlinu unlocks it anyway and Tommy ran off. Maybe it's because he's afraid Wilbur might order Tommy to hurt his friends. That's just my theory. He later came back with mud and leaves with a blanked out expression looking tramuatised. And continued to stare into the camera saying nothing. He acted rather pushy not letting anyone touch him. Maybe because Wilbur ordered him to do something so horrible that made him like that, tramuatised and speechless. Staring blankly into the camera. Tommy later leave to wash up and comes back pretending nothing happened and proceeds on with the stream. He denys the topic and tries to change it. Maybe he doesnt want them to look into the situation, to protect them in a way from Wilbur and maybe himself. That's just my theory. If you got here this far thank you :))
This just seems to be too out of the ordinary for it not to be ARG. What do you think?
I think it’s quite odd…👀
I'm pretty sure jt was just for the bit, but who knows?
I agree, especially cuz y’know… its was right after Tommy spoke to Will
It was probably the tree ghost.
they may redo the part again since we cant hear it that well or someone will break it down we know for a fact thta if it happens again its an arg
Wilbur: “can you get outside that window?”
Everyone:”no.no.NO”
Tubbo:”I reckon he can”
hmmm
Oh no
Bruh the moment I read this he said that lolll
Time stamp? 💀🖐
@@justamberish 7:11
The way he said “hey there tubbo’s chat, it’s me Wilbur soot.” Is almost identical to the way he said “HEY THERE! ITS ME! WILBUR SOOT!” As a way to introduce the first ARG. I CANT WAIT TO WATCH THIS UNFOLD
Also how tubbo says “I don’t want to play anymoreeee” could be related to it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think Tubbo is a part of the ARG too...
time stamp?
@@vizzyash_416 6:07
arg?
Phil needs to have a serious talk with Wil about his tendency to traumatize children
Edit: screw Wilbur Soot, support abuse victims
He really does
Yep since the past that he did
I agree, its becoming a serious issue
amen
It’s just rp
The rest of the group: just trying to have a normal hang out stream
Tommy: why don’t we add a little bit of ✨Spice✨
And... mud...
Wait who is the guy next to ranboo and infront of ranboo?
@@bimisikocheng billzo
@@bimisikocheng infront: aimsy
@@bimisikocheng billzo is the one next to him with sunglasses and aimsy is the girl in the red beanie
the whole chat in a nutshell: OH NO! OUR TOMMY! ITS BROKEN!
the fact the entire chat was spamming it too 😭😭😭😭
“Exile Arc” 💀
IM CRYINGGG
I laughed a little too hard at this
Can anyone tell me what arc and arg means?
For anyone wondering, no this isn’t apart of the wilbur soot/jack sucks at life arg! That one has finished and this is a completely new one :)
he did say he wanted to make a new one and since halloween in coming up it could be something related to that
@sam It was solved, Matpat did a theory solving the arg on his channel
@@frosted_leaf1282 yeah, but Wilbur still hasen't and will not confirm that that's the true and intended ending of the story.
wait so do we actually know it is the start of an arg or we just think
Wait wait how many arg are there?
Is the editor willbur arg the same as jacksuckatlife/willbur soot arg?(and yes i get that this is not related)
It was so jarring seeing the whole stream during this part. When Tommy returned with a dirty face, fingers, and such an uncharacteristic blank expression, I was starting to suspect this was more than just an ongoing bit. Props for Tommy's acting skills for making the entire chat either concerned for his wellbeing or suspecting that this could be the start of the ARG 👏👏
I was genuinely concerned about him 😅 like for real, he ok?
@@S0il1 same idk if he’s really just acting Tommy may be not be fully acting
Whats an ARG? I NEED to know
@@dababyissusy3839 ARG is short for Alternate Reality Game, an interactive type of storytelling that involves using the real world or social media as a setting.
@@paupau2299 omg tysm❤️
It’s litterally everywhere now bro, this is so cool
This isn’t apart of the wilbur soot jacksucksatlife arc. it’s a whole new one :)
@@Andyccandy well Wilbur was giving him instructions at first on call
@@yurimthepanda ah, sorry! thought you were connecting it
I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT! oh my god he just spoke about wanting to start another one and I didn't even consider it.
i’m so excited
Tom is just the perfect person to start this, his acting is AMAZING. Will knows what he is doing....😌
as he always do
Yeah, Tommy would probably make for a good actor if he ever gets an audition in a movie.
what's an "ARG" btw?
@@hhone748 alternate reality game
@@ZoZo-mu1ir oh okay
If Tommy is in it, everyone's in it. Especially both billzo and aimsey. Aimsey is so concerned and billzo is just hating on Tommy. This isn't normal. He also isn't gonna just start it out of no where. Everyone of them knows about it and is involved some way even if only a little. Wilbur isn't like that, he's not just gonna start it out of no where, where no one knows what's going on. Especially if they are in the video/stream/vod whatever. Think about Wilbur's last arg. It was never solved cause it was to convoluted. No one knew what was part of it and what wasn't, he hid stuff within itself and within itself. Like a box within a box within a box.
This is exactly what I think😲
I dont think they knew it but i suspect Ranboo knows whats happening while the rest of the gang reaction was to genuine to be fake although that's just only my speculation
@@jmporraskun1293 i think at least most of them knew theyre tommys friend and they could call him at any time if they were really really concerned but no one even suggested it
@@summe6221 yeah I agree if they were genuinely worried and concerned I feel like they would have ended stream or tubbo would have gone off to check on him to make sure. Not to mention if they were actually worried I don't think they would have locked him outside.
Btw, maybe the name William is a clue or something idk.Maybe not
At 7:02 Billzo (I’m pretty sure) mentions that “the bit is over” and then directly after Tommy says to Wilbur “they’re trying to break the fourth wall” as if what was happening was planned between all of them. Earlier Tubbo also says something about not wanting to play anymore, hinting to the arg
I think it's an ARG because, throughout the entire stream they also said "why is tommy here?!", "why is he even here?!"
Tommy blinks in morse code "STOP"
Wilbur isn't having a fun Halloween and his voice is much deeper than usual.
Tommy has been listening to Wilbur a ton. (Or too much..)
When Tommy goes out the window he is LOCKED outside, when he comes back in he is covered in mud and is just emotionless. He stares in one spot only, he also wears a blue jacket instead of red.
When Ranboo tries to make Tommy laugh, he just stares at him then goes back to spacing out.
Also, if he was really this sad about this Tubbo would have ended the stream. Also, why would they lock out Tommy. They know whenever they go outside they just stay by the window then head back in.
Those are my reasons why-
EDIT : AIGT KIDDOS I GOT A THEORY-
So, we know that from the start Tommy was wearing his red and white T-shirt and hoodie. At some point, Wilbur tells Tommy to go outside. So he does, Tommy goes outside. He bangs on the windows begging to come in, eventually walks away. Wilbur must have done something to make Tommy be all in mud and dirt, *Wilbur* made Tommy do something so bad it must had traumatized him. Probably that's why he came back all emotionless and sadness, he constantly kept putting his head down (I think, I might need to rewatch- Also I'm writing this at 12 AM sleep deprived-). When he leaves and comes back he's fine, that might mean his part for that character has ended on the stream.
Now another theory that I had was that I feel like it was Tommy's character from the DSMP, you know, c!Tommy. When he switched into the blue jacket it was like his character was over, again this is a theory so-
If you do have any theories please PLEASE reply I really wanna see it
2nd Edit: NVM I REWATCHED IT AND TOMMY WAS STILL ACTING WHILE WEARING HIS BLUE SWEATER.. *what if he was cold..?*
3rd Edit: Yeah no i realized tommy was telling freddie to keep the window locked *i was sleep deprived ok dont yell at me SOB-*
holy shit
OMG. when did Tommy blink stop in Morse code??
They locked Tommy first, when Freddie goes to unlock Tommy, Tommy yealls and bangs at the window saying something like "NO! NO! GO BACK DONT UNLOCK IT" and he seems stress when Freddie did unlock it then runs away
Timestamps for them saying why is he here?
@@buhboh3036 right like he didn't want freddie to ruin the arg
It’s got to be ARG. So many factors point towards it. Wilbur said a new one would start in October, the others seems very unbothered by the strange behaviour, it’s halloween (the perfect time for a spooky themed ARG which ties into the body hiding theory) And Wilbur has been working on projects for a while. It all seems to add up. What are your theories?
I dont know but im excited for the acting and story telling
He already started the Ghost Hunting one (idk when rn) but I think this Halloween it’s going to be continued (I think he said he wanted to continue it soooo)
the body hiding theory?!
I think Tommy killed or done something bad to someone and is now traumatized. Thats my theory lol
8:27 i take this as "i need to make sure that this is visible to the viewers" personally, and also
10:10 he is *so close* to breaking but he masks it fairly well i believe. This is really good acting ngl
ooo yeah he almost smiled
Lmao, what if he's digging a grave cuz arg!wil killed someone
@@Fisinocean yes yesss round up the theories people. We need all the big brainers watching what happens in this ARG from left to right
Eh I'd say it's average acting not to hate on him or anything.
@@mashrubawazed4708 i meant it as in good acting for some 17 year old, not like its good in comparison to hollywood actors /lh /nm
It's either Tommy digging or he climbs on a tree then feel off into a bush(leaves on his hair because there is no way you get leaves on your hair while digging). Remember that Wilbur tell Tommy to do things, and it's not there usual "Tommy following Wilbur because he wants to be like Wilbur/wants to trust Wilbur". Wilbur's voice is like commanding to Tommy do these things he will hurt himself or his friends. There are alot of clips of Tommy just hurting himself: drowning himself during apple bobbing, literally collapse on the floor then laugh it off as like nothing happened, repeatedly banging his head on the table even when Freddie is stopping him, Tom and Will says alot of death/killing related sentences. Tommy also goes off camera several times. Its a theory that arg!Will is controlling arg!tommy and Tommy is trying to save himself from hurting others to hurt himself.(Like how panicked he is when Freddie goes to unlock the door for he to come back in again but Tommy just "No no! lock the door go back in dont unlock it" then just runs away off camera similarly how wilbur runs away when he hears something when he is first introduce in the arg)
Anyways I vouch for Crimeboys arg
Edit:5:24 "There's too many...too may..." Tommy what are you implying?!?!?!
And the fact that arg!Tommy was blinking STOP in Morse code could be like he’s trying to get rid of possibly arg! Wilbur controlling him.
OR it could be.arg!Tommy telling himself to stop listening to Wilbur!
@@KH-uq9lg die je really say "stop" withe his eyes?
@@ryuu7728 if you read it in morse code yes he did
@@KH-uq9lg Its not morse code
@@buhboh3036 ok
Tommy: *coming in all dirty and trying to act*
Aimsey going full mom mode: “WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? YOU LOOK LIKE A PLANT POT!”
Ok so, my theories.
- there's hoodie!tommy and tommy, similar to what wilbur did with the glasses. Except this time, h!tommy would actually be Wilbur "possessing" Tommy. Not suggesting did/osdd, more like two diff entities. Not sure if it's Wilbur so will b referring to as h!Tommy. Notice how Tommy does whatever wilbur says while on call?
- Tommy is dirty from digging something- a grave?
- Around the time where Tommy is just sitting there, he has a weird blinking pattern, people put this into morse code, it spells "s-t-o-p". My theory is, Tommy is trying to communicate as h!tommy doesn't allow him to speak. He could be asking h!Tommy to stop or trying to get help from rest of cricketcrew.
- Not shown here but Tommy bangs his head on the desk and says "leave me" possibly asking whatever is "possessing" Tommy to, well, leave him. (been informed that he said "lizzie" but I'm keeping it in anyway)
Wilbur on the call also says he's having a bad day so that could def be something.
Anyway, just my theories, let me know what you think!
idk what was the first arg about but what you say sounds good :D
i think there was something coming at them tommy said to keep the door locked and sit down and ran away. wilbur and tommy might just have commited a crime, tommy ran to help will and welp now the child needs therapy, or some paranormal shit happened
Holy shit! These actually make a bit of sense :0 and i was so confused of what since i miss that whole part of the stream
so it is actually a start to an arg
bro can you like....... give me some of your brain cells??????
Thats so good !!!! And if this is actually the start of the ARG like.... you got stuff out from almost nothing wow!!!
Tommy: comes back covered in mud and leaves
Aimsey: mum mode activated
dude tommy was literally asking tubbo which tripod he could off someone with, and then he said “yeah tubbo said that if i use the… (inaudible)” to will, and then comes back looking like he literally has just committed murder
Oh shit, how bout this: Arg!Wilbur need to kill someone and Arg!Tommy help him dig a grave
I don't know if this helps but at 2:05, when Wilbur said that Tommy should beat all of them, Billzo told Tommy "I would absolutely spin your jaw, you MUPPET". Maybe he is implying that Tommy is controlled by Wilbur and does everything that he says. What do you think? I really want to hear your thoughts about this!
we're still pretty early into the ARG if it is one and that could've been on impulse of trying to act tough or to scare tommy but that does work because tommy was listening to wilbur a little to much like you would think tommy would say no to some of the things wilburs asking him to do but tommy just goes along with it so this could be right
Not too sure if calling him a muppet would have anything to do with it since it's a pretty regular standard English(?) insult to call someone a fool
1:04 "He wont stop, I keep saying things I don't want to say"
Billzo calls people muppets all the time. It’s a mannerism of his.
Trust me I am a expert on British people, Muppet is a sort of insult but in a playful way
Quick Update Guys:
A lot of people think that Tommy blinking is morse code. So me let inform you guys, it's definitely not. We tried morse code and got jibberish. I even went as far to try Caesar Cipher with all 25 shifts on the output of the Morse Code, and even tried 42 different keys for a possible vigenere cipher. But nothing worked. So, even if it is an arg. There are no huge clues as of right now.
And, I would definitely not suggest theorising before there is any concrete evidence because that's a waste of time.
Same. Yup makes sense
I have no life I’m writing down all possible important points to this possible ARG. Thank you for informing me on the Morse code thing I was unsure and I have done no theorizing as of yet though I grew up on MatPat
Yeah kinda confusing how people are already theorizing when this isn't even a confirmed arg and if it is we barely have any evidence
@@revrsefate5984 yeah
hear me out somewhere near 5:21 tommy said something to to with starting the arg
9:53 aimsey, the wonderful mother of the group
They remind me of Hermonie Granger 😭😂
Who is aimsey?
@@sour6286 the girl
@@sour6286 the girl with red beanie
@@Dantethegunk oh i meant is aimsey one of tubbo’s sisters or a friend?
All the maybe morse codes Tommy is doing
7:38 The way he blows on the window in patterns
10:36 This bit when Ranboo removes hi hands off the table, we can see Tommy blinking weirdly
Like he is waiting an opportunity for Ranboo to take off his hands so the chat can see what he is doing
Bonus: We see before that Tommy is done talking to Wilbur before he goes outside the second time
but when he goes outside we see him talking to his phone again and this is was before he disapeared to whatever the fvck he is doing.
“Did you shit yourself?!”
This got serious when Tommy didn’t laugh at that comment like holy shit-
10:07 out of context you can just say Tommy went out to eat mud lol
Yeah and he just ate too much, and started spacing out cause the mud was too much lmao
**listen closely**
What are they saying?
And in 5:30 Tubbo knows what’s going on, he seems to want to laugh but Tommy covers it by making himself look weird
I didn't even notice that before but you're right wow
Tubbo seems hesitant to let Tommy go through with whatever he and Wilbur are talking about-"don't, don't do that" but for the *listen closely* bit it sounds like Tommy says "this is/it's a part of the ARG" and then Tubbo allows it (could be about Tommy getting locked outside and covered in dirt & leaves??) Tommy 'looking weird' when he stands up is because he is now playing his ARG persona and Tubbo is probably amused because at Tommy's character or because he knows something ARG related is about to happen
@@Charlotte-gd7xx yeah you are right
Ok ok I think he said to tubbo this is just the beginning of the ARG
wait really? When did he say that??
yeah like what time stamp?
Just here
@@ramanjitpurewal8505 … like specially tho
Y'all I think it's around 5:20 but I'm not entirely sure
Wilbur even suggested that he might start his next ARG this October when he was reacting to game theory solving his first ARG
yeah, he said something along the lines of; “it would be cool to start an arg in october”
Heres my theory
- at the time stamp 6:08 , wilbur was saying something about us having a happy Halloween and a marvellous evening. Then he said "but I'm not", and when william asked if he liked to talk about it, wilbur said "sorry I dont talk to williams". What if someone with the name "william" did this???
The fact Wilbur's real name is William makes it so funny
Also his real name is William
@@AliferousAngels imagine if wilbur did it to himself 😳😳
btw if you didn't know, the guy that asked if he wanted to talk about it's name is not William, it's Bill.
Tommy said that kinda out of nowhere, which further confirms your point
@@onidii what if billzos irl name is william tho-
I watched the stream yesterday and I was legit worried about how Tommy was acting. To be honest, Tommy's weird behavior really freaked me out while watching the stream.
But now that I see this video and the comments, I can tell that Wilbur stated in his reaction video on Game Theory, that he indeed might be a cool idea to start ARG around Halloween, to give a spooky theme.
It's a testament to how good he is at acting
@@orangepizzaparty688 That's true tho
I realized it when someone in chat said “ARG?”, and I immediately connected ARG to Wilbur, realized he was talking in the phone with him before, saw that the bit was going on for way too long and no one seemed to be concerned by his behavior, all of these point to an ARG and if it’s not well I’m really concerned for Tommy
@@astra6698 Same here, dude.
Here’s a summary of the things that I noticed from Tommy’s conversation with Wil, but it’s really hard to hear so some things may be totally wrong. If I missed something please let me know. 🙂
At the beginning, Tommy complains that he’s saying things he doesn’t want to and something about dismembering. At 1:18 he mentions a Lamborghini. Since when did either Wil or Tommy have a Lamborghini?!
Then he says the rooms are crap and that “they” were making him do weird things. Wil tells Tommy to fight them one by one and take them down. Tommy replies with “she’s proper nimble.” And Wil says she will be difficult to fight.
They both complain about “ Williams” and Billzo gets feisty.
Wil says something and Tommy mentions knives and asks what to do with them.
Tommy then asks Tubbo if a metal tripod could do either bash his head or do something to his gut.
Wil and Tommy mention something about a “bone sword?” Idk and then about a water staff and choking.
And then Tommy’s bit behind Tubbo, which mentions a contest that Tubbo has to win and apparently Easter.
Then the plugs and Wil’s mic message.
Tommy when he’s taking something off the mic says that they are trying to break the fourth law but he won’t let them.
When Tommy goes outside he does a lot of scraping and banging with a metal something.
When Tommy goes outside again, he yells and bangs on the window to keep the door and window locked and to not let them in. He runs away in the same hurried and frightened manner Wil did in his first episode of the editor arg.
At the end, when he comes back in, Tommy’s covered in dirt with leaves in his hair, and he remains subdued and quiet the rest of the video, spacing out constantly and not saying a single thing except “I’m fine” or “it’s okay.”
Take this how you will. But I’m so excited for this next ARG as I missed the last one.
(Holy crap, thanks for the hundred likes! :D)
when I tried to listen to what Tommy says to BadLinu, we can only hear obviously the "NO NO" hitting the window, or the other if I remember correctly he says "Do Not, Go Back in" and then he says "No Go Back " and then leaves like Wilbur did in his arg
OMG TY
Ffff thanks, i have a horrible time picking voices out of a lot of noise
I thought he said break the fourth wall…? But tysm for this it was hard to hear stufff most of the time
At 6:09 when Tommy puts the phone close to the mic there's this weird soft breathing and I don't know if it's coming from Tommy or through the phone
Didnt anyone notice? When tommy went out to call wilbur, he came back with mud all over him. But once he changed into a BLUE hoodie, he was suddenly happy
And ghostburs "blue" makes everyones sadness go away
**GASPPP** I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT! I thought about the color change too but I thought it was him getting rid of the red/Tommy ending the bit but that's REALLY COOL
STOPP I JUST THOUGHT THE SWEATER CHANGE WAS TO SHOW HIS PERSONALITY CHANGE THING KINDA LIKE WILL’S GLASSES IN THE FIRST I DIDN’T EVEN THINK OF GHOSTBUR
Omgg
OMG YESS
HOLY CRAP YOU ARE RIGHT. I SAW A THEORY ABOUT TOMMY GETTING POSSESSED TOO SO THIS ALL TIES IN
remember how wilbur once said it would be cool to release an arg on halloween? just reminding you :)
I remember that as well
My friend texted me ‘so cold’ while I was watching this and im freaking out.
that might be a reference to the editor wilbur arg
@@autumnstupidity or it might just be someone telling their friend they're cold- just saying, it could tho
its was a common phrase for the wilbur editor arg. He would say "im so cold" a lot
Can confirm I was freaking out because of the old arg, and they did just text me cuz it was cold. But it was a fun coincidence.
@@Charliehopes132 yuh it is!! and I was spooked even without that so it's completely understandable /gen
I cannot stress how good in acting Tommy is he looked like he was going to cry at one point, the way he doesn't break character, and how he completely change the vibe from joking around to creepy and really uncomfortable. some people genuinely got worried that he got hurt or something
Someone in chat said " THE TREE DEMON GOT HIM" I was just laughing
at one point tommy blinks out the word STOP in morse code
Could I have a timestamp? I rewatched this a few times and I couldn’t see it
Time stamp pls
The staring starts at 1:26:30 in the VOD
Ty
Someone said that is false and when they tried to put that in Morse code they didn't get anything
I had a weird idea of what if we never see Wilbur Soot at all in the arg, just tommy and/or other actors. Wilbur Soot will just be there by voice, idk- That would actually be more scarier if you think about it. He wouldn't even show himself, he'd just be a headless, faceless, body less voice on the phone controlling and commanding a defenceless teen. Fuckin, big mystery shit all over again.
if this happens again its literally a ARG.
IM SO F*CKING INVESTED!!!!
A lot of people are commenting this but wouldn't it ruin it to do the whole scene again if it's an ARG? Pretty sure Tommy's not doing it for the bit
@@ferret_lover2665 I get that, but, maybe they mean that if Tommy acts weird or off again and not that he'll do the same thing but idk
@@ferret_lover2665 well an arg can have many and I mean MANY way to start and lead also there just many a lil too many odd thing about that whole stream, it could also be authentic reaction since it could be a selective people are in it and some not, but let wait and see
i love how everyone is talking and ranboo is just worrying about his pumpkin
10:39 he looks like he is about to cry, good acting big man
I was waiting for someone to post about this!
I made a list of this that was not normal
1. When tommy said “Will, you gotta stop making do weird things”
2. When tommy asked about the tripod saying “if I hit someone in the head will the be knock out”
3. Tommy blocking the window.
4. When tommy left and came back with mud and leaves on his face, hands and, hands.
5. After coming back was so quiet and on the verge of tears (Which is not normal for him online)
And that’s all I have for now. I think arg has just begun.
The way he said " it's fine it's fine it's fine"
Time stamp?
Aimsey was so concerned for tommy she went to go try and find him
Maybe in the arg wilbur asked Tommy to help him Bury a body or Bury something whatevet it is it ended up with dirt on Tommy's face
that is a good theory and i think that really could be apart of this ARG if it is one because of the evidence in this video but the thing is he had leaves in his hair so that leaves the question what really happened? some people say he might've climbed or attempted to climb a tree but I think he was running from something/someone and tripped
thats actually a good theory, good job :D
@@abbi.studios i mean thats true though, maybe he was running and then he tripped and got leaves all over his head, but the question is who was he running away from?
@@serarix That is a very good question because I don't necessarily know but he could've been running from Wilbur but that's very unlikely. But one thing is too is that people were saying that Tommy may have been hearing voices in his head and my mind automatically went to 'he's probably trying to escape the voices'. which could be true but I think he could've called wilbur in a panic because he didn't know what to do and wilbur told Tommy to do a favor or something for him and told him that the voices would go away and that's how he ended up sad, numb ect. and that could explain why he had mug on his face and hands. and another reason I think this could be possible is because he was basically doing whatever wilbur told him to do and if he did call wilbur Tommy is very vulnerable and will do anything to make the voices go away at that point so again that could explain why he had mud on his face and hands
wilbur mentioned when he watched the channel Game Theory (they were analyzing and trying to solve his first arg) that making an arg for halloween would be fun. Im pretty sure that's whats happening now
Probs but all there ppl trying say some wild stuff like more code. Morse code would take months to learn just to blink it out. If anything the farest id go is that his hoddie depict his mood. Red being dangerous/scared and blue beinf happy/joyful
This is so weird lol. I’m also rly hoping this is an arg. I wasn’t part of the community when the other one happened
@sam what does arg mean?:(
@@JT-dx3xt arg means alternate reality game, basically a story game taken place in real life
same
@@JT-dx3xt like how dream smp but with real life and real people acting in it it pretty cool check out mat pat theory about this if you want to go deeee
Same
I was super skeptical at first, but after watching the video I have some thoughts.
EDIT: At the bit where it says listen closely, I had to listen very hard twice but at 5:19 tommy says quietly "This is the beginning of the ARG", tubbo nods immediately after. he might have just collapsed there out of the way of the camera and almost out of the mic's range to let tubbo know that next bit was starting so tubbo knew to suggest locking tommy out.
- One, if wilbur was starting a new ARG during someone else's stream it means everyone here was in on it. I wasn't paying attention earlier today really but the way they're talking is a bit different than usual and they're pointing out in the beginning how Will's requests over the phone are odd when that isn't really something they would outright say. If tommy was actually acting that way they would have been a bit more private about pointing out it was of because they were on camera, they were pointing out it was off because they were expecting it.
- 6:05 I watched the matpat video on the last wilbur soot arg a few days ago and that was literally all I saw of it so I could be far off but the phrase "Autumnal vibe" sounds specific and planned. And just wilbur's voice too. He also mentions that he's not having a good night, once again something sreamers wouldn't really say seriously on stream. Also could be overanalyzing this but just the way tommy reacted to wilbur's words sounded like he was waiting for them and for that specific phrase. Will started his last ARG on someone else's channel rather unexpectedly, so on tubbo's stream wouldn't be far off.
- When Tommy goes outside for the first time he quickly comes back in. maybe will wasn't ready or something I don't know, it was a live stream so more trial and error maybe. But then tubbo suggests they lock the doors and the others are getting up to do it, suggesting they were in on it again. Then tommy makes an excuse to run back outside and when badlinu goes to open the doors, tommy starts baning on the window and he's telling him to go sit back down. The only thing I can think is that Wibur was there and for some reason Tommy didn't want him to get outside. Will was asking on the phone if hitting someone over the head with a metal tripod could kill them. So.
- Then tommy comes back inside covered in dirt, I'm guessing having to do with will. Something happened and that's the reason why he's quiet, whatever will did could have likely been the first event of the arg.
7:40 Ranboo is also whispering “Wilbur’s ARG” I think
so many things from this stream point to a new wilbur ARG. In September, wilbur said he was gonna try and star a new one near Halloween (in a week). Wilbur's voice was deeper, he referred to himself as wilbur soot (what he did in his ARG). Ofc wilbur was telling him to do things and he di them, and he also left and started yelling, dissapearing and coming back muddy, not speaking and looking scared or being his normal self at all. He went to the bathroom (apparently) and came back with a blue jacket. it all adds up to a possible new WilburSoot ARG.
“I need to carve tubbo”
‘Lock tommy out now’
tubbo keeps looking at the camera twice after things tommy did, such as falling over 5:20 , or going outside, or when he pulled leaves out of tommy's hair 10:12 , which happens when you are nervous. looking at the camera, then realising you are, then looking away too fast, then looking back to try and not look suspicious. also has anyone seen if aimsey tapping on the table is anything?
The fact that will msged tommy saying ‘why does it look like one of u is going to die’ the tommy disappears and appears all muddy and traumatised
When did Wilbur say that?
@@gonelol974 on the phone call
When tho?
@@l.eah5233 he was on the phone call for a long time
@@gonelol974 I can’t remember when it happened but I think it was near the start and Wilbur was saying things like take them out one by one
9:26 you can see that he’s panicking about something but I’m still not sure what, he seems very stressed as well I think maybe something was chasing him? And he didn’t want them to unlock it so they couldn’t get hurt? Or maybe Wilbur did something idk if you guys have any ideas pllzzzzzzzzz tell me :)
That’s what I was thinking
Keep the ideas going so far it seems
-wilbur needed tommys help, tommy told them to keep the door locked.
-wilbur asked about a tripod(metal) Posibbly killed someone then burried a body (the mud) and we dont see the door so dont see if he took anything with him likley no as there wasnt anything when be was banging on the window.
-When tommy returns from the bathroom hes in a blue jaket maybe because he (was cold) I know thats the other arg but still
-The same intro as the other arg: Hey there! its me! Wilbur soot!
-High posibility for morse code, might be something when we brighten outside(maybe not)
-At 1:40:45 in the stream when questioned about being gone he ignores it and sings"when I go back to the water, never really going (????)" something about water again like in wilburs first arg(again I know its not the first one)
-Wilbur says "he doesnt speak to williams" his name is will/william
I doubt this is just a "bit" tubbo would have ended strem if tommy was genuinly sad and he almost broke character here - 10:10
ill update this.
Okay hear me out Will told tommy about some plan right, what if that planned failed and caused tommy to run back as quick as possible and thats why tommy is like that and how tommy looks scared about sum
Imagine now its threw tommy instead of jacksucksatlife
If this truely is an arg then I feel like it may have something to do with Billzo because of how he was acting towards Tommy the whole time
@Bin HaiAnh maybe.. idk it just seems like he’s being more over the top than usual in that specific part. Although I won’t lie, I’m known for overthinking lmao
@Bin HaiAnh billzo isn’t the guy to start thing out of no where and actually it really weird why he even in this stream in the 1st place, sure they’re friend they would obviously invite him but there are other people in the specific area too some I would even say closer to the group so billzo seem like an odd choice for me aleast
@@whatyalokingat1735 well Aimsey and Billzo were both visiting Tubbo like two days earlier, they did a couple streams together before this one so they were already there. And then obviously Tommy was invited to the party and Freddy lives near Tommy and wanted to come along.
Ranboo: it's like reaching into a womb but instead of a baby there's just gunk
Me in my head: that's the same thing?
Lol I'm so excited, this is a combination of all of my favorite things from Wilbur and tommy
tommy's acting and wilburs stories?
@@evankray3198 yes exactly, and also just chaotic energy in general
8:11 "I need to help carve tubbo"
I love the fact that one thing happens out of the ordinary and the community comes together to solve the mystery
Wilbur states that he doesn't trust Williams. He himself is a William from what I recall, is this him stating that he doesn't trust himself? Game Theory theorised that Wilbur accidentally killed someone in the Editor Wilbur ARG and if that is correct, this could be a reference to that
this!!! and why would tommy refer to bill as william if that’s not his name? the only reasons i can think of is that it was just a joke OR he wanted wilbur to say he doesn’t trust williams
I thought it might be to underline that this Wilbur that's speaking on the phone to Tommy is a character whose only name is Wilbur and not the real person (=William "Wilbur Soot" Gold)
3:20 the face she’s making at what Ranboo said got be rolling 🤣
Me in math: im not gonna do it bc i cant do it im too dumb
Also Me: HEY LETS MAKE 2 CHAPTERS ON THIS VERY COMPLICATED ARG-
Game theory needs to see this then.
It would be much cooler if we got more details. Hopefully it's gonna be another ARG :D
Theory- Wilburs ARGs whole idea centred around him “doing something embarrassing”, I think that the exact same thing has happened to Tommy. And we’ve just witnessed the before and after of that embarrassing thing. And think like how Kye was the one who knew about what Wilbur had done, Wilbur us the one who now knows about Tommy and Tommy now knows the original embarrassing thing Wilbur did. So either, the ARG may be around Wilbur trying to help Tommy so he doesn’t end up in the same position or worse or, they both are going to try and get each other, “fired” like how Wilbur tried to kye fired as they both now know the truth. Just an idea. I can’t wait for this though ahhhhhhh
That arg is done this is a new one
I think it’s unlikely Wilbur would use any of the same ideas from his old arg, he’s said he made a lot of mistakes with it and didn’t really like it that much so I’d imagine he would try to make something different
how much you wanna bet this has something to do with dead a body? or body in general. most likely dead on tho. and covering said body.
Yeah I think Wil may have foreshadowed that in the text at the beginning of the vid
Maybe the ARG'S are connected.think about it,why wouldn't he started the ARG earlier. And why in tubbos stream. The args may not be directly connected, but more like a parallel universe??
@@me_yes8390 ooh cool
@@Just__Claire timestamp?
@@nomen_est_pluto I belive 0:17
Im so glad you uploaded this bc I didnt wanna watch the entire stream lmao
I see from your profile pic that you are cultured.
-A Kaeya main.
@@Monolepoppy FELLOW KAEYA MAIN HELLO
"Your back but your covered in mud!!???"
Me:...did tommy and wil kill man
i remember wilbur talking about him starting an arg in october back when he reacted to mat pat's video on his first arg, so its very possible
can i just say, bc no one else seems to have picked up on it, maybe its cuz most ppl cant lipread but just before Tubbo closes the curtain at 7:22 - 7:27, you can see tommy mouth/say 'help' as though something has already gone wrong. (also english major here, i love that i can put my inference skills to the test in wilbur's ARGs bc i have so many theories, and im very attentive so eeeeeeeeeee)
My biggest flex rn is that i have that exact same shirt Ranboo is wearing, and I am freaking proud😌
will the tree deamon be canon on the wilbur's arg?
lmao
Another thing i noticed is that Tommy and Wilbur kept reffering to billzo as 'william' and he was getting more upset than the others over Tommy
9:23 or somewhere near there tommy goes
"NO NO" then starts banging on the windows like something, or someone, is chasing him.
i have a theory, i think wilbur has killed something, and tommy was forced to help him bury the body (or relocate it). the stabbing and bleeding thing could be a threat. THIS could mean that the ARG has been going on for months, back when tubbo and ranboo discovered th tree demon that they think is living in the back garden. THIS would explain why the two did a random ghost hunting stream too, and thats why i think he may be relocating it, just in case. ALTERNATIVLY, tommy could have asked that because he hit someone with whatever it was he was talking about, and accidentaly killed them. wilbur could be an accomplise in this, but tommys expression matches the theory, being traumatised
Tommy started to look traumatised near the end.
will: "do you think you can get out the window"
everyone: "NO"
ranboo: YES HE CAN
4:05 look at the flick of that wrist …. I’ll see myself out
If this is wilbers second ARG then damn, Tommy's a good actor lol
"i keep saying things i dont want to say" - Tommy 01:05
Why has nobody mentioned him banging in the window and freaking out?!?!
He also looks like he is about to cry-
The fact that it’s not an arg- watching this now- so funny
I thought this said “arc” and was why I clicked on this.. LMAO
0:16 this could just be me but this seems like foreshadowing or something
4:10 spider man going in his seat 😂
i thought this was just tommy being tommy but that direct stare into the camera and the "HAHA 'SCUSE ME GUYS HEHAH. HAHA" is a little too on-the-nose i think
5:24 when he starts laughing I mean like it sounds different it's just him saying :hehe ??
It sounds sus
Can we just appreciate the guy who said at 3:36
"Who invited him?"
Do you not know billzo ?
Things that might be possible
Didnt anyone notice? When tommy went out to call wilbur, he came back with mud all over him. But once he changed into a BLUE hoodie, he was suddenly happy
And ghostburs "blue" makes everyones sadness go away
This is not mine It goes to someone else.
9:46 heres when he comes back
I know I’m a day late but Wilbur said in one of his latest streams he’d like to start his ARG of round spooky season and they are carving pumpkins
9:27 whatever’s happening, I don’t think it’s safe….and he knows it
I WAS LITERALLY SO MAD THAT THEY DID NOT EVEN BOTHER TO CHECK ON HIM AFTER WHEN HE LEFT AND CAME BACK WITH MUD ALL OVER HIS FACE UNTIL THE END
Because maybe they knew about the ARG from the start and they don't want to ruin it.
By "they", I mean everyone on the stream :)
I think it’s part of the arg
That is what my friend told me. I mean maybe yeah. thx people.
THINGS I NOTICED
I have no idea what these mean, it just seems like this stream is riddled with potential clues
•When Tubbo asks Tommy if he wants the stream to hear Wilbur, Tommy sounds kind of panicked and says “no no no I just want to speak to him.” Kinda s u s s y
•WILBUR LITERALLY SAYS “why is it lit like _ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO DIE_
•Tommy tells Wilbur on the phone, “it’s going a little wrong” and then assures him that nobody else can hear him
•Tommy says he has to speak to Wilbur alone because “we have to make sure it’s going okay.”
•Tommy tells Wilbur “I keep saying things I don’t wanna say”
•THE CAMERA CUTS JUST SEEMED SO EERIE- PROBABLY NOT A CLUE BUT IT JUST ADDED SUCH AN OMINOUS FEEL
•Wilbur tells Tommy he should fight them and “take them down one by one”
•Tommy asks Wil “what do I do because the knives are out right now”
•Tommy tells Wilbur the knives won’t be able to penetrate anyone
•Tommy asks Tubbo questions about the tripods and how much damage they’d do and passes on the information to Wil
•Tommy tells Wil “I’ve never wielded a bow (I think he says bow???)”
•They talk about chucking something (presumably knives)
•Wilbur tells Tommy to do something to Tubbo (I didn’t hear what exactly but some form of harm)
•I feel like when Wilbur told Tommy to collapse he was hoping Tommy would land on Tubbo, maybe suffocating him or making him fall into his knife?
•The rest of the gang all express how much they dislike Tommy and ask why he’s even there
•The camera randomly goes black
•AT 6:07 WHEN WILBUR IS TALKING IT SOUNDS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE “Hey guys! It’s me! Wilbur Soot!” FROM THE EDITOR WILBUR ARG AJAJSJSJRKJCK
•Wilbur says “I hope you’re all having a marvelous evening because I’m not”
•I found it odd how Billzo is the only one confused/concerned (other than aimsey maybe) about what’s going on, and how Wilbur says “I don’t speak to William.” I just feel like those two are connected in this arg somehow
•Tommy says he needs to carve Tubbo
•TOMMY LITERALLY YELLING AT FREDDIE TO KEEP THE DOOR LOCKED- WHEN HE GOES TO UNLOCK IT TOMMY POUNDS ON THE WINDOW AND YELLS “NO NO! SIT BACK DOWN! KEEP IT LOCKED!”
•Some people were saying he was blinking “stop” in Morse code but I’m currently memorizing Morse code and it just looked like gibberish to me 😟
What I think
I think it’s a bit too early for theories, but I think that Wilbur was definitely plotting to kill everyone there (mainly Tubbo for some reason) and I think maybe the reason why Tommy wanted to keep the door locked was because maybe he was in the middle of killing someone/something and he didn’t want it to run inside the house? But I definitely think he was burying a body of some sort. Maybe Wilbur said he was having a bad night because things are, as Tommy said, going a bit wrong? idk what do y’all think
Cuz Tommy says “I keep saying things I don’t wanna say” maybe he’s loosing control of his body and he wanted to keep the door closed in fear he was going to loose control and kill them .maybe Tommy is possessed or something ?
My theroies based on the video:
- Giving Tommy's unusual behaviour such as Tommy wanted to film his conversation with Wilbur when he stated himself it should be a private call. Tommy collapsing when Wilbur told him to and him banging against the windows to not let him inside the house.
I think that Tommy is being controlled by Wilbur, following his orders like a puppet and his puppet master. Fast forward to Tommy going outside to talk to Wilbur. The rest locked him out as a joke. Badlinu was going to unlock it but Tommy says,"Keep it locked! I can't go back in."
This might be a little message to them, "Don't let me in. I might *hurt* you if you do." But Badlinu unlocks it anyway and Tommy ran off. Maybe it's because he's afraid Wilbur might order Tommy to hurt his friends. That's just my theory.
He later came back with mud and leaves with a blanked out expression looking tramuatised. And continued to stare into the camera saying nothing. He acted rather pushy not letting anyone touch him. Maybe because Wilbur ordered him to do something so horrible that made him like that, tramuatised and speechless. Staring blankly into the camera.
Tommy later leave to wash up and comes back pretending nothing happened and proceeds on with the stream. He denys the topic and tries to change it. Maybe he doesnt want them to look into the situation, to protect them in a way from Wilbur and maybe himself. That's just my theory. If you got here this far thank you :))
Omg maybe that could of happened thanks for sharing I loved reading it
And I loved the puppet idea
I love how aimsey helps clean up tommys hair a bit when he gets back inside lol