How Highways Almost Destroyed Amsterdam - Plan Jokinen

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  • @33lex55
    @33lex55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2384

    Funny how perceptions can change. I was born in 1955, and grew up in Den Haag. When the Nieuwmarktrellen was a thing, I just tended to think these guys and girls were standing in the way of progress. Some 50 years later, I am glad they did. Our cities are so much more livable, thanks to them.

    • @Quintinohthree
      @Quintinohthree 4 ปีที่แล้ว +187

      In their time, revolutionaries are often seen as radicals.

    • @33lex55
      @33lex55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@Quintinohthree So true. Rebels sometimes turn into freedomfighters, when they win. It takes time for them to be appreciated, though.

    • @engorgioarmani3381
      @engorgioarmani3381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      You assumed those youngsters knew nothing! But it's actually you who knew nothing.

    • @aryanbhuta3382
      @aryanbhuta3382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      @@33lex55 Not always, though. Some rebels don't lead to movements that improve life. There's always good and bad.

    • @33lex55
      @33lex55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@aryanbhuta3382 Without specifics, there is little I can say to that. Can you name a specific group or event?

  • @etraag
    @etraag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1796

    Damn, those huge parking lots are seriously depressing.

    • @hallotest1234
      @hallotest1234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      Daniel you are just using the wrong vehicle then

    • @etraag
      @etraag 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      @@d947 Just use a bike?

    • @blitzn00dle50
      @blitzn00dle50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yes, they are depressing

    • @louispetitjean1652
      @louispetitjean1652 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      In the US, we call that "Individual freedom" (me: cries in American)

    • @peskypigeonx
      @peskypigeonx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@d947 That’s the whole fucking point

  • @egeyucel7395
    @egeyucel7395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1946

    Holy crap we dodged a bullet there in the 60s!
    (Amazing how much quality content you squeezed into

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +255

      TH-cam videos can be quick and to-the-point when you're not trying to stretch them out to fit more ads. 😉

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Here in Utrecht, we started filling in the old city moats in favor of highways. We stopped after a few years with the shortest highway to nowhere in the world. Right now we’re more than halfway to breaking them all up and digging brand new ditches in the same old places....

    • @ArmageddonAfterparty
      @ArmageddonAfterparty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@NotJustBikes Sadly, it failed entirely to address the problems with yuppification as well as gentrification. Liveable cities my ass.

    • @rajadeepak41
      @rajadeepak41 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@NotJustBikes my guy with the burn on most youtubers😂

    • @hardcore5356
      @hardcore5356 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ArmageddonAfterparty this is so true, house prices are skyrocketing. Most original locals cannot afford these. sad but true

  • @gerrittlighthart
    @gerrittlighthart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +722

    Utrecht also narrowly avoided a similar fate, where the waterway ringing old city center was to be filled in and a two-lane ring placed to enable easier motor access. Thankfully there was plenty of resistance and the Minister of Culture designated the walls and strongholds along the waterway as monuments, which stalled the highway construction, resulting in the shortest highway in the country at not even two kilometers. What an accomplishment, right? Restoration of the Catharijnesingel waterway should be finished during 2020, so we'll have undone that part of the highway mania soon. If you're a motorist, Utrecht is far from ideal, but as an elective non-driver I'm more than satisfied.

    • @jlammetje
      @jlammetje 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Gerritt Lighthart and everyone in the Netherlands knows that you don’t take the car to a city center, you take a bus or train.

    • @marcvanderwee
      @marcvanderwee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jlammetje That is true, but in the 1960's the Dutch policy (along with policies in other countries) was to make room for the car, also in the city centers...

    • @crk3874
      @crk3874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@marcvanderwee Yes, do you remember the city bus going under the Dom tower?

    • @luminosaevents6591
      @luminosaevents6591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      vind utrecht toch wel erg vaag als stad (grote open wegen) buiten het prachtige centrum dan!

    • @SeverityOne
      @SeverityOne 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The last time I was in Utrecht (2017) the area around the central station was one big construction site, though. Bit depressing to be honest.

  • @Molagmal
    @Molagmal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    I'm from Zwolle (a beautiful old city about an hour away from amsterdam) in the 60s there was a plan to demolish half of the medieval city centre to make place for the A28 highway to run through the middle of the city and have an on off ramp there. Luckily after similar protests to the ones in Amsterdam the A28 was placed about 1km outside the city centre.
    By the way, if anyone wants a tour of Zwolle sometime just let me know, I'm happy to show anyone around.

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      I know Zwolle! My kids love the Bonami SpelComputer Museum there. 😉

    • @Molagmal
      @Molagmal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@NotJustBikes yes that's certainly fun! Near the train station is also Dino Land, I've not been there my self but it's really popular with kids as well.

    • @damianpc1
      @damianpc1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zwolle de home town! ;)

    • @Noa1nl-racing
      @Noa1nl-racing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ik kom ook uit Zwolle 🙂

    • @xFionna
      @xFionna 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ik heet ook bart

  • @StartPlayFinish
    @StartPlayFinish 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1337

    Whenever people get upset about traffic jams they always shout "we need more roads". No mothafluffer, you need less cars. Redesign your cities so people dont need cars all the time.

    • @TechExploresNYC
      @TechExploresNYC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Sure, we can build roads that spiral up 100 floors and go nowhere if they so want.
      Btw, I own a car.

    • @MMijdus
      @MMijdus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      So you build a subway... Amsterdam did that, destroying a whole historic neighbourhood. Much to the discontent of most of the citizens of the city. But eventually we figured we can make use of the old dutch habit of riding bikes. Amsterdam is perfect for that.

    • @Jona69
      @Jona69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *Fewer

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      nope, traffic jams (at least in the Netherlands) are BETWEEN cities more than anything, or on the entry points to a city.
      A major reason people still use cars to get to cities is because public transport is both highly inefficient and massively overcrowded.
      Trains are packed over capacity during rush hour, both the train cars and the track segments, so simply adding more trains doesn't work.
      In fact Dutch railways have some years ago announced that if there were only a 10% reduction in car traffic in favour of trains they'd be unable to cope, and since the amount of rail traffic has increased by roughly that amount (due to the increase in population, not a decrease in car use).
      But take an example from my reality, living outside of Utrecht but having to commute into the city outskirts for work: By car it takes me about 40 minutes to get to work in the morning, and the same to get home in the afternoon.
      Same trip by public transport would take me 3 hours in the morning and another 3 hours to get home. And that in overflowing trains and busses.
      And that's the situation for most people who use a car to get to work.

    • @MMijdus
      @MMijdus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@jwenting So the real problem is overpopulation. Let's face it.

  • @jeffdesigns
    @jeffdesigns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    This is what’s happening in the Philippines. Filipinos perceived themselves as faux Americans and being car centric is a way for progress. Our oligarchs brains us so that they can build toll elevated highways and gain more money. They are convincing us that the only way to solve traffic is to build more roads than to build and encourage mass transportation.

    • @achuuuooooosuu
      @achuuuooooosuu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Filipinos perceive that because they have no other choice. Public transportation is basically poor in the country so they have to buy a car which then clogs roads as more people buy. Meanwhile, urban planners are still stuck in the American way of planning and want to replicate what’s in the US (see those subdivisions).

    • @ianhomerpura8937
      @ianhomerpura8937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@achuuuooooosuu weird, since some of those subdivisions built in the 90s have now become great walkable neighborhoods in their own right. Apparently the developers weren't as strict as they should be and let the owners develop their houses as they saw fit. Thus main shopping streets developed within these old subdivisions, and they're great.

    • @mjjjuly
      @mjjjuly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ianhomerpura8937 one advantage of lax enforcement. during the early years, it's probably strict, but after a few years (especially once the developer have sold every property), things began to relax

    • @mjjjuly
      @mjjjuly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@achuuuooooosuu i doubt if there's even urban planners though. they just let developers create these hectares of subdivisions, but the infrastructures leading to some of these places are in bad shape (pot holes, barely 2-lanes, no proper drainage, etc)

    • @DK-tv6rk
      @DK-tv6rk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A least they are now rebuilding the PNR railway. Shame it was neglected.

  • @woutervanr
    @woutervanr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +834

    Yeah, sometimes a financial crisis+oil crisis can be a good thing.

    • @marcvanderwee
      @marcvanderwee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Luckily it was at the height of the protests of 'Stop de Kindermoord (Stop the Child murder) and other groups..

    • @Ritaaw1
      @Ritaaw1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Same thing goes to London. They were planning to build more residential areas with houses that look exactly the same in the 60s, but another crisis stopped it.

    • @woutervanr
      @woutervanr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Ritaaw1 Huh, interesting. I know that they made a green belt at some point to stop expansion. They've done something like that here as well afaik.
      Maybe the current crisis will have loads of positive consequences as well. Not having trains/busses that are stuffed with people would be nice to have after this as well.

    • @Ritaaw1
      @Ritaaw1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wouter vanR Jay Foreman made videos about the houses in London, it’s somewhere in his channel

    • @woutervanr
      @woutervanr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ritaaw1 If it is I've already watched it, haha. No that I think of it, I'll go and watch some mapmen again.

  • @marjoleindelange4128
    @marjoleindelange4128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    For clarity: Jokinnens plan was not commissioned by the city of Amsterdam, but by the car industry and car drivers organisation.
    And Amsterdam did build highways.... not through but around the central part of the city. This helped to reduce cars within the city.

    • @GaertnerJan
      @GaertnerJan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      They started building them through neighbourhoods as well. You can see that in parts of Oost, where the poorest people lived in the 60’s and 70’s (after the original inhabitants had been murdered in the holocaust). Almost nothing remains today of the Weesper/Waterloopleinbuurt as a result of the car-centric modernizations that happened then.

  • @runarandersen878
    @runarandersen878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    It is similar in Trondheim, Norway. They planned replacing “Bakklandet” a central district a long the river with highway, removing many old buildings. Luckily they didn’t, and now it is almost the most popular part of the city with cafes and almost no traffic.

  • @ricardobarrera7245
    @ricardobarrera7245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    Very contrasting with what happened to Brussels, where they actually built those ‘city highways’ haha. Now Brussels is trying to get rid of it...

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

      Yep. I lived in Brussels for two years. I always think it's what Amsterdam would be if people hadn't protested in the 70s. It's amazing how car-centric Brussels still is today.

    • @luxembourger
      @luxembourger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@NotJustBikes Somehow, overall, I still prefer living in Brussels over Amsterdam because of the food, people, culture, authentic nightlife, but the traffic is terrible.

    • @davidderuiter726
      @davidderuiter726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@luxembourger Most people prefer Amsterdam over Brussels. And especially because of the unfriendly nature of Brussels. But if you like the people more that is your right.

    • @luxembourger
      @luxembourger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@davidderuiter726 I understand what you wean. I love the (alternative creative) nightlife in Belgium, something what is mostly missing in Amsterdam. Amsterdam has become, how strange it may sound, too conservative and commercial mainstream for me.

    • @GoogleGebruiker
      @GoogleGebruiker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@luxembourger I've lived in Brussels, and I honestly would prefer to live in Amsterdam. I've lived in other places in the Netherlands before as well.

  • @CepheusTalks
    @CepheusTalks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    "So the dutch looked to the Americans for inspiration"
    *oh no*

    • @Leopold5100
      @Leopold5100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      they were "doomed, dooomed I say"

    • @Bluefox1978
      @Bluefox1978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sidste sted at kigge med mindre du vil ha en lorteløsning

  • @CrazyKraut20
    @CrazyKraut20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    They tried to pull this shit in the city of hamburg as well. In the late 1960s, the city was planning to build a network of inner city highways that would have plowed through historic living quarters. Many of the inner city rivers would have been filled with concrete. Thank God these plans where never realised.

  • @Welgeldiguniekalias
    @Welgeldiguniekalias 5 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    The plan for these motorways in built-up places always cites "fast and easy access" as the main reason for building them. But when you think of it, all these plans achieve is A) ensure anybody who can drive there, will drive there, and B) Introduce a bottleneck for road traffic. It's a recipe for gridlock.
    You want to build those ugly interchanges outside of town. This also helps to avoid local traffic getting on the motorway. Because they are very expensive to build and maintain, you'll want through traffic only on the motorways.

    • @me-it9jn
      @me-it9jn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welgeldiguniekalias and by doing that it will free up potentially overcrowded public transit, or allow more people to even have an option into the city in places without either public transit or highways. It’s ultimately going to free up some “traffic”

    • @Welgeldiguniekalias
      @Welgeldiguniekalias 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@me-it9jn Are you joking? www.safe-tiny.io/4lvcKNcb3
      It's much easier and cheaper to buy some more buses than to build more lanes. In Amsterdam proper, there are no places without public transit. There's trains, trams, the metro, and buses all over the place, and an estimated 38% of all trips in Amsterdam are by bicycle. More cars would only get in the way and disrupt the flow of traffic.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "Fast and easy access" to what, if everything is being demolished in favor of highways.
      I can't comprehend how people ever deemed plans like this a good idea.

    • @disklamer
      @disklamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@lonestarr1490 Fast and easy access to the parking lot of course ;\

    • @jintanarawdsukumaal3000
      @jintanarawdsukumaal3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fast and easy access was more like slow , hard and depressing access by now

  • @neutronpixie6106
    @neutronpixie6106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I was about 9 is when scientists started of warning of global warming. I pretty much decided around then that I was never going to own a car and add to the problem. I'm 45 now and the only times I've ever driven was because it's better to have someone that may be a little overly cautious behind the wheel instead of someone that's been drinking, but, I have kept my word and never owned a car. Anyway, I went to Amsterdam for the first time in November of 2019...and I cried. A 43 year old man crying because he realized he's lived his entire life in a country that seems to go out of it's way to accommodate something that sits in a parking spot 99% of the day and not the population. I went into more businesses in two days in Europe than I did in two months in the US. And that's not because I was a tourist. Henk's Comics was just a short walk from where I was staying. I stopped in a coffeeshop, in a bakery, got a few supplies from Albert Heijn, and went into a few stores that looked interesting. I went into all those places because I actually had the option to. If I wanted to do those things in Texas, well, closest dispensary is 2 states over. There's a tortilla factory nearby which doesn't sell to the public, but the closest thing to a "bakery" is at the supermarket, which is over an hour walk. I know of a few interesting businesses here I'd like to check out, but they're on opposite sides of town, at least 3 hours just to get there by foot. I dunno... It just kind of hit me at once how Americans don't even get the option to have that kind of community aside from a few pockets here and there. "Oh, you own the building and you want to live upstairs of your business on the bottom floor? Don't be ridiculous. You're not ZONED for that!" Dufuqyo?!
    Sorry for the rant. Thanks for taking the time to doing these. Informative and masterfully put together. Makes me want to become a city planner and use your videos as reference guides.

  • @Blaze6108
    @Blaze6108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    Name something more American than bulldozing a poor district to make room for a giant highway.

    • @Urlocallordandsavior
      @Urlocallordandsavior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Or historical sites.

    • @nicky9499
      @nicky9499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      using every big occasion as an excuse to fire lethal weapons into the sky

    • @RyanTaylor2000
      @RyanTaylor2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yanks

    • @showmemo3686
      @showmemo3686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Bulldozing "several" poor districts to make room for giant highway(s). And a giant stadium for a professional sports team that pays it's players absorbent salaries to not perform; all funded by tax dollars. Now that is more American!

    • @shuandoyle7871
      @shuandoyle7871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Urlocallordandsavior ok name two times that happen since you said sites

  • @Gottrahmen
    @Gottrahmen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +565

    people in the 60's really were on one. some of the worst examples of urban planning and architecture, combining to produce one big Hellcity™. I'm glad the damage was mitigated in this case at least.

    • @Kiluei
      @Kiluei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Some of the houses/flats that were built in the 60s are so damn terrible.

    • @luxembourger
      @luxembourger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I think a lot of ideas of the 60ies/70ies were total failures, it was the time of academic madness.

    • @luminosaevents6591
      @luminosaevents6591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nothing of this plan passed the aproval, yes their may have been buildings that got broken down but it was for normal projects that where needed to keep the city alive same as every other city in the world

    • @davidderuiter726
      @davidderuiter726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Modernism is a cancer that still endures in todays cities

    • @davidderuiter726
      @davidderuiter726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Kiluei Modernism yeah yugh

  • @jatterhog
    @jatterhog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Sadly, my home city of Stockholm had its central districts completely demolished in favour of wide streets and highways, and the beautiful old houses were demolished in favour of ugly 1960s houses despite massive protests. It’s called “Norrmalmsregleringen” in Swedish. Hopefully we can completely restore how it was once upon a time :/

    • @yogajedi3337
      @yogajedi3337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They should have destroyed all the sick 60:s suburbs full with criminals and parallel society.

  • @l.c.8475
    @l.c.8475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    There's a prime example of car planning destroying pedestrian spaces not by taking up that space but by making them unpleasant close to where I live at the train station, there is a walkable cyclable shopping area close to some apartment buildings and student housing, it's surrounded by 6 lane roads (3 lanes each way) and getting there requires crossing or walking along one of those roads for a while, even with wide pedestrian and cycling paths it's unpleasant, the only shop that manages to thrive in this area is maybe somewhat ironically a bicicle store that has expanded and now takes up over 50% of the shopping area and currently makes up over 80% of the store fronts that are still being used.

  • @dpsdps01
    @dpsdps01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    There were similar plans for Vienna, some of them partly implemented. What brought them to a halt, was not really protest (people were in favour in the 1960s) but lack of funds - thankfully.

  • @xJonnaax
    @xJonnaax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I literally gasped for air when you said 'demolishing de pijp'. \OoO/

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      No kidding! De Pijp is the best neighbourhood in Amsterdam now!

    • @Foxesandbelts
      @Foxesandbelts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NotJustBikes There are nicer neigbourhoods in Amsterdam, like Plantagebuurt/Kadijken. Thanks for the vids :)

    • @davidderuiter726
      @davidderuiter726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Foxesandbelts To live maybe but they are not vibrant as a whole, Living around a zoo is nice i guess but there is not a lot to do in that neighbourhood. De Pijp used to be a poor place now a lot of Young Urbanned People live there.

    • @1995pianofreak
      @1995pianofreak 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidderuiter726 YUP = young urban professional ;)

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@1995pianofreak Ah, so gentrification happened, I see.

  • @MaximeBouveron
    @MaximeBouveron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Love your videos so far, they’re short, to the point and very informative! Keep up 👍

  • @rileysmith9843
    @rileysmith9843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They planned to do the same thing in Greater London, but protests eventually stopped any big highways from ever being built in London. Many big highways stop at the M25, and the four that penetrate through stop before reaching London proper.

  •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    With the ongoing coronavirus crisis, many cities are encouraging bikes as a stopgap measure, especially for those who used to use the public transportation network. The popularity of PT is plummeting for obvious reasons (kinda hard to keep 1.5 meters in a Petri-dish-on-wheels) and if those people would all start driving, the number of cars would pretty much double overnight which would basically suffocate the cities in exhaust gasses and keep the roads in a constant state of gridlock.
    Budapest, for example, finally got the bike lane on the Grand Boulevard and the Üllői street (after literal decades of cyclists demanding them). And while they are supposedly temporary... well, as the Russian proverb goes: Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution. This and a more widespread acceptance of telecommuting might be the silver lining in this pandemic.

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It will be interesting to see how cities change after the pandemic, but cities have had pandemics before, and Taiwan (for example) maintained a very good control of the coronavirus while never reducing public transit usage (as I talked about in my coronavirus vide), so I'm not sure too much is going to change in the long-run. Still, now is the time to install better walking and cycling infrastructure for sure, because your Russian proverb is completely correct.

    • @eriklakeland3857
      @eriklakeland3857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@NotJustBikes In the United States, I can see big money groups that oppose transit ballot measures, like auto industry funded Americans for Prosperity, weaponizing Covid. Your Taiwanese example will become very important, too bad the minor inconvenience of a face covering is seen as a deal breaker and freedom issue for countless selfish Americans.

  • @lehit7961
    @lehit7961 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    To me the most interesting thing about this is how the inhabitants of Amsterdam fought back and didn’t allow this to happen. This car-centric faux-futurism seems to have affected “younger” cities the most, as opposed to centuries-old cities in Europe and Asia, almost like people in these newer cities were less attached to them somehow.
    Also, while this might be a tough subject to tackle, segregation also played a role in the suburbia landscape of the US, as they were seen as “white havens”. I’m curious as to why this didn’t seem to play the a similar role in the Netherlands, as the Dutch also have a history of colonization and enslavement.

  • @petertraudes106
    @petertraudes106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    You touched upon grass root resistance but it has been the driving factor that made Amsterdam into the city it now is. I suggest you look into the history of the squater movement in the Nieuwmarktbuurt, that is where Amsterdam (and the Netherlands in general) found its tipping point concerning urban development.

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Yup, that's totally true. It's a topic that's worth its own video some day. Along with the metro protests in the 70s.

    • @petertraudes106
      @petertraudes106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@NotJustBikes yes, and the anti city circus against the stopera (we lost that one) and het witte fietsenplan van Luud Schimmelpennik. It is remarkable however that all these ideas from the seventies really started to bloom in the last decade and if i am not mistaken will lead to really big and revolutionary changes in the next years to come. 50 years after the epic Nieuwmarkt struggle, who would have guessed?

    • @ArmageddonAfterparty
      @ArmageddonAfterparty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ..and how the "liberals" betrayed the movement up to this very day with Femke Halsema.

    • @ArmageddonAfterparty
      @ArmageddonAfterparty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@petertraudes106 The trend is erasure, of all that the squatters have achieved, throughout the Netherlands.

    • @petertraudes106
      @petertraudes106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ArmageddonAfterparty Please explain, i don't quite understand your point. What i wanted to say is that the squaters movement changed the way people and politics thought about urban development, away from suburbanisation towards the compact city with room for residential, educational, recreational and commercial and retail functions, all mixed together in a small scale people friendly public space. You can see this now in allmost all neighbourhoods of Amsterdam. It is contrary to the modernistic ideas of separation of Urban functions as propagated by Corbusier and realised on a grand scale in the USA. An example in the Netherlands can be found in the Bijlmer neighbourhood but even there you can see a rethinking of the original context.

  • @SebastianPeitsch
    @SebastianPeitsch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The answer is: Paris! Car-free city starting 2022! I'm going there this Christmas to check it out (again). I'm there every three to five years and it's bee great to see the changes!

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah.. I wish them good luck with that. It's not happening.

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nyx_2142 While it would be good, Paris singing the praises of doing next to nothing aside from a few central routes feels predictive: "yes we did it, we don't need more".

  • @krestovozdvizhenskiy
    @krestovozdvizhenskiy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Now you can have a look at Moscow. It is a car-centric city where tube and road network grow rapidly , but a lot of people live inside the city. It could be a bike-city , but a car is a symbol of wealth here, and one half of the year bikes are extremely uncomfortable and dangerous to ride due to extreme weather conditions ..

  • @roberthuron9160
    @roberthuron9160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    New York had Robert Moses,who destroyed transit,and neighborhoods,with a meat ax,and never took responsibility for his displacement of people,and businesses,and the almost dissolution of New York City,and parts of Long Island! That's one major reason why,now,New York is so hard to get around in,and the dearth of public transport! Thank you for your attention ☺!

  • @victotronics
    @victotronics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    There is a similar video about London. There it partly happened. And in San Francisco the Embarcadero was actually built; fortunately they had an earthquake and then they decided not to rebuild it.

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Toronto, too, with the Gardiner Expressway. They bulldozed the neighbourhood of South Parkdale, for instance. Most cities have a story like this. And most cities weren't able to stop it.

    • @victotronics
      @victotronics 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Andrew Smith 1. If they had made ringways you'd still have congestion. 2. You have a public transportation system many times better than most American cities.
      I sometimes travel to Houston. The "Katy Freeway" has if you count everything 24 or so lanes. And they all stand still. Really, more roads are *not* the solution.

  • @Paul-ng3xn
    @Paul-ng3xn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    In Tilburg in the 60's a lot was actually demolished by the mayor Cees Becht, nicknamed locally as Cees den sloper. Or Cees the demolisher.
    The city was actually pretty before, as can been seen in the Tilburg archives. After not so much. In an American tourguide it was compared to east Berlin even.
    Nowadays they are renovating and rebuilding a lot, esp in the old railway area. Keeping as much of the original buildings as possible. Wich is really nice. Hope they keep it up.

    • @RustOnWheels
      @RustOnWheels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lots of cities in Noord Brabant and Limburg were demolished in the sixties to accommodate cars because of the industries closing down.
      Just look at Roermond, Eindhoven, Helmond. God awful what they did there. Helmond is absolutely the worst off. There’s an overpass next to the castle close to the city center. If you see older pictures of Helmond you will cry.
      I think the sixties demolished more beautiful cities than WW2.

  • @ameerf.2390
    @ameerf.2390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I wish my country can be like this, aesthethic, modern and liveable at the same time.

  • @Sapharone
    @Sapharone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Watching your channel makes me feel so happy and fortunate to live in Amsterdam.

  • @rolyars
    @rolyars 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fortunately the old center was not sacrificed, suburbanisation still happened though. After the 60s Amsterdam lost almost 200.000 inhabitants to suburbs like Almere only to be regained by newcomers in 2020. Even the ring road was still built, just much further outside the old center. This is the A10, a mostly 6 to 8-lanes highway and connects the suburbs within city limits such as Nieuw West and also directs traffic out and into the city.

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, there was still a push in those times for people to live outside of the city and drive in. Instead of bulldozing the centre they focused on Park and Ride.
      Unfortunately today all the people who live in those suburbs now expect easy access to the city by car and are constantly demanding more expensive highway expansion.

  • @spinni81
    @spinni81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    In Germany we call this "autogerechte Stadt" ("city adapted to cars") and many big cities in Germany (West more than East) were more or less rebuild that way after the World War II.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I like the inner city of Leipzig much for this. The city center is an all pedestrian and bicycle area and the neighboring areas are easily accessibly by foot, bike, or public transportation. The TRAM system they have there is almost perfect.
      But at the same time, traversing the city by car is also not too huge a struggle. The city highways are far from as crammed as those of Berlin or Hamburg and the layout is really straightforward and easily navigable.

    • @kastner6777
      @kastner6777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Martin Schulz Ok "Martin Schulz"

    • @SuperPepecharlie
      @SuperPepecharlie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Frankfurt

  • @habib6499
    @habib6499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It’s such a shame Algiers wasn’t lucky enough to avoid the highways that have now destroyed our city and making it regionally known for traffic

  • @JulesOfIslington
    @JulesOfIslington 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This brings to mind Plan Voisin, Le Corbusier's idea for turning Paris into a modern urban hellscape.

  • @pollutingpenguin2146
    @pollutingpenguin2146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A similar thing was proposed for Copenhagen, luckily the country could not afford it and what was planned to go ahead was heavily protested against.

  • @belltond1527
    @belltond1527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Motorways are good outside cites basically connecting cities but inside cites they are a nightmare

  • @RomainPellerin
    @RomainPellerin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video, very educational. Thanks!

  • @Abcflc
    @Abcflc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Concise, great quality videos that everyone can understand. Bravo!

  • @Lillith.
    @Lillith. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It made me nervous even though it was over fifty years ago and didn't happen.

  • @doedsstierna
    @doedsstierna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Stockholm was completely destroyed by similar modernisations in the 50s and onwards. It makes me wonder what currently modern ideas will be seen as crazy in 50 years.

    • @BikeHelmetMk2
      @BikeHelmetMk2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm guessing it'll be something healthcare related, that'll make this look like the dark ages. I have studied the stock market and economics for a while - pharmaceuticals seem to be the only industry where the highest cost producer of a treatment continually wins. Small drug companies must partner with bigger ones and charge more to become successful. It makes me think there's a bit of backroom dealing going on, plus lots of politics/oligarchies behind the scenes - and politicians/government won't tackle it because if they reigned in spending and called out companies for obscenely inefficient ways of doing things, people would die.
      I fully expect to look back in 20 years and be like... "Yeah, we could've spent $100b on that COVID thing and saved more people, rather than tens of trillions worldwide." It'll be stupidly obvious with the benefit of hindsight.

  • @Joost2510
    @Joost2510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like your content! Its nice to see someone from a foreign country telling what they think about what is “usual” for me.

  • @adimaselsar855
    @adimaselsar855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Indonesia as The Dutch former colony, right now many cities in Indonesia trying to copy Amsterdam as they were like in 60s. Many cities and towns more become car & motorbike-centric, the government are more likely to build wide road & tolls across the island instead doing reactivation of The Dutch Railway Network.

  • @ozzert
    @ozzert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This was pretty bad, good that most of it didn't happen!
    In the 1960's, anything seemed possible, and there seemed to be no limits. Rotterdam, a city that likes to brag about having the biggest, the tallest, the fastest, etc., had a plan for its port that even dwarfs this one. Look for 'Rotterdam 2000+' (select images) , the most megalomaniacal and devastating plan ever designed for anything in the Netherlands. The plan was, to more than double the port's industrial area, sacrificing all of the island of Voorne-Putten and part of Hoekse Waard; on top of that, a whole new city for half a million inhabitants was projected on the isle of Goeree-Overflakkee, basically ruining that island as well.
    Needless to say, this plan also met a little resistance after its presentation ;)

    • @on-the-pitch-p3w
      @on-the-pitch-p3w 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And they call every new building an icon.

  • @Sidetracked_in_Macau
    @Sidetracked_in_Macau 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm hooked on this series!

  • @willjfang
    @willjfang 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As a fellow Canadian now loving life in Amsterdam, I can't believe this almost happened! Just discovered your channel...great work!

    • @andrewmartin9995
      @andrewmartin9995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You don’t look very Canadian

    • @willjfang
      @willjfang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewmartin9995 That's pretty racist of you. 🙄

    • @qraqrjak8010
      @qraqrjak8010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willjfang playing the race card are we? Just be happy we tolerate you here so you don’t have to live under oppressive communist rule. We’ve had about enough in Richmond

  • @theblackhand6485
    @theblackhand6485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    After The Joker plan Amsterdam realized a ring highway system around the boundaries of the city called Ring Amsterdam. It forms so to speak a wheel around the city and there a many roads like spokes of a rim, that leads to the main city center.
    The mono rail mentioned in the video became a metro system which rises above and underground.
    In the video the so called 'boulevard' is indeed a part of a highway that never got realized. It suppose to connect Amsterdam North thru the IJ tunnel via Jonas Daniel Meyer Square to the south/east part of the city.
    It is indeed a strange site to see old neighborhoods cut in half by a modern lay out of roads and new modern tall buildings. Actually it is a awful site to see.
    To good part is that traffic inside the city does no longer go thru the small and narrow streets of good old Amsterdam. It's functions as a ring inside a ring.

  • @Inc1neRyu
    @Inc1neRyu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:22 This is literally where I walked past for a few years to go to college. Behind the camera is the Hogeschool van Amsterdam, the main College in the city,

  • @antoinecanazzi5141
    @antoinecanazzi5141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Rotterdam was rebuild with a modern plan (the Basic Plan) which like all plan end up failling and open up toward less car oriented approach. However, it also create a very comfortable and integrated car and bicycle network. This basic infrastructure, for me, are today the carriers of real densification in the city centre, fighting the urban growth and the growing lack of housing. I feel sometime that is what Amsterdam lack. Those infrastructures also decide how a city can adapt to problematic of big cities. Amsterdam today suffer from a dramatic lack of housing and the city is totally unaffordable. Densification is quite difficult, so they develop new neighborhood quite far from the city centre. Amsterdam Noord has a real potential, but its lack of adapted infrastructure has let it unable to suffice the need of housing development. Without going to the extrem of north america's road infrastructure, I do believe that Amsterdam need to start changing scale in their answers.

  • @KennethBDone
    @KennethBDone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a long time resident this is shocking and fascinating to see. I wasn't born here but my city is certainly one of the most liveable. Fortunately, Amsterdam did get a chance.

  • @RandomRabbit007
    @RandomRabbit007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Plz dont stop the content. IT IS EXCELLENT!! From the Central Valley of California

  • @nutyyyy
    @nutyyyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The same situation almost happened in Edinburgh here in Scotland.

  • @Iamwatchingyou75
    @Iamwatchingyou75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    These plans do sound absolute ridiculous in today’s standards. However they had a valid point back in de 60’s. De Pijp for example was a place nobody wanted to live. Small, badly build houses, often without even a shower where whole families lived in. As welfare grew in the 50’s and 60’s those houses in the Pijp and other working class neighbourhoods needed major renovations due to the increased welfare. People who could afford moved to more spacious environments like Almere, Zaandam or Hilversum. That one area that was demolished after all, was demolished to build the old Metrotunnel which eventually gave space to buid the 4 lane Wibautstraat.

  • @bl4ckth0rn39
    @bl4ckth0rn39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Something similar happened in Prague (Czech Republic).
    And because the communist regime was in power, they succeeded.
    Now we have giant, oversized, multi-lane roads in Prague, which often cannot even be passed from one side to the other. And people here literally have to lay down their lives in order to make a difference for the better. One example for all. The death of cyclist Jan Bouchal in 2006, an ecologist and promoter of bicycle transport.
    The intersection was not rebuilt until 2012.
    A link to a Czech website describing how Prague got rid of the crossroads of death. Please use Google Translate.
    ekolist.cz/cz/zpravodajstvi/zpravy/praha-se-zbavila-krizovatky-smrti-cykliste-ji-uz-projedou-bezpecne
    Jan Bouchal
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Bouchal
    North-South highway in Prague
    wikipage cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severoji%C5%BEn%C3%AD_magistr%C3%A1la

  • @marcelmoulin3335
    @marcelmoulin3335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Impeccably executed! Your videos are brilliant. I, however, must express utter sadness that the Americans did inspire the Dutch to build motorways, and they are ubiquitous. In addition, there is no dearth of traffic queues, urban sprawl, strip development, and ugly development. All of these aforementioned elements did not appear until the late '70s and '80s. I was fortunate enough to see The Netherlands in the early '70s when it was a veritable open air museum.

  • @lifestain
    @lifestain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Makes me think of Quebec City. There are beautiful places around the Chateau Frontenac but many of the working class neighbourhood who looked great too have been partly destroyed. Most of the city is a pain to look at and to live in without a car.

  • @megamaximpie
    @megamaximpie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    2:53 looking for traffic inspiration in america was a wrong choice to begin with. Looking at their "cars only" city plans. Even nowadays.

  • @Weissenschenkel
    @Weissenschenkel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here in Brazil we have some cities where the main way of commuting is the bicycle. One of them is a city named "Campo Bom" (Good Camp) in Rio Grande do Sul. But despite the fact that bicycles are better for the environment, the citizens use them because most people are too poor to afford cars.
    In the state's capital people commute with things like Uber because public transportation is too expensive, depending on the trip's length. Not only that, but Uber and its similar services destroyed the ecosystem of public transportation. We had buses, microbuses, cabs and even electric trains. They weren't perfect but at least we didn't have a lot of congestion as we have now.
    Before March 2020 I used mostly public transportation, my car was (and still is) only used for trips outside the metro area. Now I'm walking as much as possible, because the city is too hostile towards bicycles and scooters.

  • @abo31007
    @abo31007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    We had very similar plans here in Helsinki, Finland in the 1960's called Smith-Polvinen. Not sure if there's much material of it in english, but as they say ''picture is worth a thousand words'' . If you'd like can link you a great 3D visualization of it.

    • @marcvanderwee
      @marcvanderwee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess you live in (or near) Åbo ( or Turku in Finnish)....

    • @boldvankaalen3896
      @boldvankaalen3896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Please post the link!

    • @ixlnxs
      @ixlnxs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And wasn't Jokinen a Finnish-American too?

    • @seneca983
      @seneca983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ixlnxs At least his surname is Finnish.

  • @LetsGoGetThem
    @LetsGoGetThem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Us Europeans really looked to America on how to do this stuff, then we were like "hang on, lets not"

    • @MainMite06
      @MainMite06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      China + Japan: *"Ok, I'll copy America by 20% of what they told me!"* 🤣😂

  • @RaphaelHythloday8
    @RaphaelHythloday8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    did I just get subliminal stimulation to get the Simpsons reference? 😂👌

  • @tyfon4429
    @tyfon4429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice video. Love from Amsterdam 🇳🇱

  • @christophervlaskamp7462
    @christophervlaskamp7462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If this happend I would be living next to a gigantic highway.

  • @DM-ol9ne
    @DM-ol9ne 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ironic that the Advert that played before this was for a petrol engine Kia SUV (I know it’s TH-cam that chooses ads)

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I suspect any video about "highways" and "cars" will get car ads. Pretty funny. I wish I could choose which ads to show (or not show), but I am at the will of Google! 😁

    • @cees-janmeijning5831
      @cees-janmeijning5831 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      KIA IS kust a geest dat. Planning to but a Sorento. Love SUV's

  • @brianwheeldon4643
    @brianwheeldon4643 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jason, A Great explanation of what happened in the '70s in Amsterdam. This needs to be shown around the planet to all city councillors who have grandiose ideas about themselves and super-highways. Auckland NZ is one such example of the disaster that ensues when wrong thinking is followed. Of course it helps to not have self regulation and hard line selective neoliberal economics running the show.

  • @clarence5211
    @clarence5211 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    all that wibautstraat footage takes me back to my days studying there, and all the walking we did just reach the AH!
    looking back it’s such a different experience compared to studying in the city centre. i still do plenty of walking while there, but by choice, since it’s much more fun than the treks through the dreary, cold wintunnel that is the wibautstraat

  • @dascandy
    @dascandy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wow, I'd never realized why it works so well here and so badly in the US. If you build stuff around cars, you have huge N-lane roads and giant parking lots, moving all buildings far apart, so people will want to take a car to get anywhere because it's too darn far to walk. No way to fix it, because people expect the distances to remain the same when cars are removed, and you can't fix the distances before the cars are gone.

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That is exactly right. Unfortunately once you've bulldozed your walkable neighbourhoods, and given all of the space between buildings to cars, it's extremely difficult to go back.

    • @dascandy
      @dascandy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NotJustBikes Not just that; if you were to propose a walkable neighbourhood in the US now you wouldn't get any traction - where would you park your car so people won't want to move there, nobody will come to the shops so no shops will go there, nobody thinks it'll be a success so nobody will want to fund it.

  • @gerardscheffer8848
    @gerardscheffer8848 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, never new that. Thank you for the interesting video.

  • @keravavantaa2886
    @keravavantaa2886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    AS A FINNISH PERSON U SAID ”JOKINEN” REALLY GOOD. it’s a finnish surname

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's entirely because I grep up in Canada and Olli Jokinen was a famous hockey player, so I heard his name a lot.

  • @ageoflove1980
    @ageoflove1980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funny that the left most plan at 00:51 is pretty much exactly how the highway system turned out. A highway aroud the city rather than through it, fortunately.

  • @radicalphil1871
    @radicalphil1871 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So awesome as your second video!!!

  • @ArjanTigchelaar
    @ArjanTigchelaar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I dread every time I have to go into the center of Amsterdam with a car. It's madness and chaos. And parking costs an arm and a leg.

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Yes, it's great!

    • @on-the-pitch-p3w
      @on-the-pitch-p3w 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No not true. Use park and ride. Pay less then 8 euro’s for a whole day. ArenA, Olympic stadium etc. (unless of course you have carry a lot of stuff)

  • @simonhorner6471
    @simonhorner6471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg, imagine this all has happen. I would cry if I saw old photos of old Amsterdam, so lifeable, and now inefficient city structure... I think these old structures from the car-free time are the best in the world

  • @MichaelHamstra
    @MichaelHamstra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice shot if Oxford and Wonderland. I hate driving in London and I drive for the LTC.

  • @rutgerkuus3577
    @rutgerkuus3577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Utrecht the Catharijnebaan (nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharijnebaan) was build to prioritise the car. Now it is converted back to a canal...

  • @Leopold5100
    @Leopold5100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the reverse to Amsterdam is Dubai, hideous urban design, and very very unfriendly towards predestrians

    • @marcoroberts9462
      @marcoroberts9462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      oh and don’t forget the lack of sewage system

    • @blitzn00dle50
      @blitzn00dle50 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dubai is a contender for the worst city on earth

    • @Volcano4981
      @Volcano4981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, Dubai. The 'city' that failed to be. The single most artificial and soulless 'settlement' to ever exist and only made to be a playground for people with more money than sense.

  • @charles3840
    @charles3840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God, could you imagine how far back we would have been set back in terms of infrastructure if we didn't have a model infrastructure country like the Netherlands?

  • @RotorPrankster
    @RotorPrankster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What are the bikes with the kid pod in the front? Are those available in the US?

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's a bakfiets, usually just called "cargo bikes" in English, but that's confusing. They are available in many US cities. Just search for a bike shop near you that sells cargo bikes. They can be expensive though, as most are imported from Denmark or the Netherlands.

    • @RotorPrankster
      @RotorPrankster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NotJustBikes Thanks!

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wish I lived in Amsterdam.

  • @Ritaaw1
    @Ritaaw1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:19 those look like the houses that an El Al flight once hit, I wonder if they are the same

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, they are. It's the Bijlmermeer.

  • @JSnow2013
    @JSnow2013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Jason, loving the videos -- just heard about you on The War on Cars and I think I just binged your whole channel over the weekend. Are you slowly working up to some recommendations for American and Canadian cities? The Armchair Urbanist roasted you pretty good with a summary of your channel (paraphrasing): "Frustrated by American infrastructure? Just give up and move to Amsterdam." I hope you took his joke lightly, he seems like a good fella, but he brings up a decent point. How do we help change this? Is it cultural? Is it political? I watched your episode on zoning and still don't know what I can do about it. Is zoning something I vote on? Is it something elected officials vote on? How does it even work? I'm not a homeowner (I'm an American millennial after all) so I don't really **need** to understand zoning and can't really afford a car because of student loans (I'm an American millennial after all) and the existential climate crisis can't really afford me to have a car, either.....so how do we fix this?
    Looking forward to more videos! Thanks!

  • @bramdeheus718
    @bramdeheus718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:19 That is exactly the same place as in the picture at 2:05. Judging from the corner building in about the top right.

  • @AlexJon83
    @AlexJon83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just notice....why is there a scene of the Simpsons hidden in the video around 1:28???? XD

    • @edwardmiessner6502
      @edwardmiessner6502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't know Shelbyville was in Holland! 😆😆

  • @TregMediaHD
    @TregMediaHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've now watched any and all content of yours

  • @Michael._The_Storyteller
    @Michael._The_Storyteller 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I found a few of your Videos over some time,
    in the last couple of days I saw a few more, and as a Wanna be Channel My self, Subscribed ( I know how important it is
    👍) I have a Himiway E-Bike and just got into the Bike Culture and like your Content and as I saw some very recent Videos,
    have gone back to your beginning,
    I was in film classes in college and like the style of video you produce.
    Much Love from Vancouver,,,,,,,,,,,WA.

  • @Coccinelf
    @Coccinelf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know what it's like, I've lived 4 years in the city with the second highest ratio of km of highway per habitant in Canada. Scooters and cars with spare tires were completely blocked by highways. Scooters used bike bypasses all the time. Now imagine being a pedestrian? It's so sad.

  • @petrfedor1851
    @petrfedor1851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is plan to build basicly roof over one major highway in Prague with parks and sports grounds and even tram over it.

  • @sjorsvanrijswijk358
    @sjorsvanrijswijk358 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn insane... good example how renovation and renewal needs to be tested against the needs of the people, and not against a futuristic view that hasn't been proven, only in the mind of the project manager.

  • @antonsamsonov9752
    @antonsamsonov9752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, nice video, I'm glad I watched it. I am just curious now if there are have been any other well-documented stories like this Plan Jokinen in Amsterdam and Hague?
    Anywhere else across future European Union that the sprawled car-dependent suburbia was gonna rise?

  • @RoyMcAvoy
    @RoyMcAvoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seoul is slowly adapting this into thier city

  • @hedgehog3180
    @hedgehog3180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tons of European cities had plans like this that were carried out more or less but many were thankfully stopped by fierce protests and resistance and since roughly the 1990s the history of European cities has really just been undoing the damage of the 20th century. It was back when people in Europe still thought that America was an ideal to follow and the vision of the future because of the Marshall aid, interacting with American troops, media and a hefty dose of propaganda. Europe slowly became disillusioned with America though and at this point most Europeans either feel uneasy with the US or see it as an example of what not to do and have some amount of contempt for the country.

  • @jordi1090
    @jordi1090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same in Rotterdam.
    Unfortunately beautiful buildings were demolished for big roads in the 60s.

    • @hendrikdependrik1891
      @hendrikdependrik1891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rotterdam was already flattened by the Germans in 1940. The first architect that had the job to reconstruct Rotterdam was Witteveen. He designed Rotterdam with respect to the historical architecture of Rotterdam, but the Nazis weren't satisfied with it and in 1942 it was completely halted. This meant Rotterdam wasn't rebuilt at all until the war had ended and that it had urban farming like medieval Rome, and today Detroit. In the meantime, Witteveen got a burn-out in 1944 and was succeeded by van Traa that came up with the _Basisplan_ , that had Nazi infrastructure, but the plans for architecture crystallised a year after the liberation in 1946. That's why after the war Rotterdam was rebuilt as the modern, car-friendly city as we know it. It could have been worse in the 1970s, but people woke up and stopped the megalomaniac plans.
      wederopbouwrotterdam.nl/artikelen/wederopbouwplan-witteveen
      wederopbouwrotterdam.nl/artikelen/basisplan-van-traa/
      versbeton.nl/2018/05/historische-besluiten-nee-tegen-het-rottetrace/

  • @inesalag
    @inesalag 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I met Herman Feddema yesterday at Huis de Pinto. He participated in the social movement against the highway. I think it would be great for you to meet him.

  • @speedzero7478
    @speedzero7478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Expressways are great, and they get a lot of criticism. The main problem with American cities isn't that expressways exist, its that they go through the urban center instead of staying at the periphery. Trains and bikes are obviously superior for the urban core.

  • @spartan0x75
    @spartan0x75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is actually really similar to how San Francisco stopped the freeway plan around the same time period, which is interesting as Market St is currently transitioning to a car-free street and part of it is already only accessible by bikes and public transit. Let's hope we can see a similar future of SF then, providing that people are willing to get e-bikes. Let's face it, those hills can kill even the most badass cyclist 😂

  • @foobarbazbaa5598
    @foobarbazbaa5598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Let's hope it stays that way. Our VVD overlords are still to this day pushing for more roads as the solution to traffic congestion.

    • @S1rWakka
      @S1rWakka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With them winning every election I totally see that happening

  • @toekkababy5329
    @toekkababy5329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Try driving a car in istanbul,you need super human powers to do that

    • @S1rWakka
      @S1rWakka 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So the locals have super human powers there?

  • @Kartoffelliebhaber
    @Kartoffelliebhaber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How are you not famous yet

    • @NotJustBikes
      @NotJustBikes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Because people forgot to share, like, and subscribe. 😢

    • @Kartoffelliebhaber
      @Kartoffelliebhaber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@NotJustBikes 😂😂😂