Yeah...I mean you first get your land wrecked by some demons, then dragons, then giants then you cant go into your forest anymore because some weird mist fills the woods and after that gets dealt with for some reason you dont know a frickin deathcurse destroys nearly all of civilisation and depending on what ending you choose for Avernus either a giant City disapears and reappears or just stays in hell so now you can be terrified of that randomly happening. To be honest, this would work perfectly as the backstory for a human ranger or human fighter or maybe even paladin and cleric. Like he is so annoyed by the stuff that just keeps happening around him that he takes up adventuring. Maybe even for a evil human Warlock BBEG. Like someone who feels threatened by all this stuff that he called out to some dragon, fey, lich or demon or even Cthulhu/King in Yellow/Yog Sothoth/etc. to get enough power to feel safe, only to be so utterly corrupted by his new power that he becomes the new thing that happens to the World - maybe even beeing the reason for some other normal everyday joe to become an adventurer to defeat him! This is starting to intrigue me enough to write some NPCs
Imaginary histories give us the sweep, the grandeur, the act of becoming something awesome. Real history nags us for mistakes, slow periods, shows us obstructionist b∆$+@®ds , who slow us, steal from us, poison the world we live in, break our 💕, etc. Then it says we should have done better, seen the pitfalls, and transcended everything, NO MATTER WHAT. Frankly, I like History, but I'm with you🤔👍🗣️🔥
After binging all 38 of the Drizzt audiobooks recently, I came to the conclusion that it’d be a nightmare to be a common person living on Faerun. If your semi-rural family’s innocence isn’t getting brutalised by Orc / Troll / Goblin raids (or wars), then your city-dwelling family is being preyed on by vampires / devil-worshippers / demon-possessed nobility. That said… I’d still probably take living in Faerun over living our current (and oh-so-obviously darkest) timeline here on Earth.
@@qzbnyv not to mention the constant groups of adventurers coming through and interrupting your life (for good and bad) I wonder how many times Phandelver has been used.
I love the lore and timelines of Forgotten Realms, but as a player and DM I always loved the openness of Mystara setting, because it gave you so much leeway to carve out and shape the world in different ways each time you started over.
Although I've never played in Mystara setting, the way the players and DM's of today, i feel, want more spoon fed content, than being creative and "carving out" the world themselves. :(
Dungeons and dragons is like legos. Yeah the lego kits have very complex instructions, but creating your own stuff has always been the original way to play with them. I have always treated it like Marvels comics. My adventures take place in my diminsion, the books take place in a different diminsion, similar but different.
I remember having to make a timeline for our home games, we've run all the modules in a shared Fearun. My roommate and I realized there was probably a Canon timeline but what is more important is the characters interaction with the world, plot serves the players stories IMO.
Because it’s a timeline for the entire world (setting). It’s not meant to be played as one campaign, so the levels of each story is irrelevant to the timeline
@@JAG19d I imagine if people did this like that it would either require leveling down or using different characters each time the level drops to 1. That could be fun though do LMoP and then do DoIP with new characters only to hear about you old characters.
For real though I feel like what most book writers make and what most players want to play in and do are very different things. Which sucks because goddammit there are some things I like to homebrew as a GM (lore and story mods) and I was hoping the book would help me avoid the stuff I don't want to do (maps, finishing 5e mechanics, designing fun dungeons)! It kind of ends up the other way around, which is annoying. Seriously, paying for the book and then paying again for usable maps makes me wonder why I bought the book!
Dragon of Icespire Peak (essentials kit, DoIP) actually takes place much longer ago because of one reason. In Storm King's Thunder (STK), in the frost giants lair (I can't remember the name of the lair), there is an adult white dragon named Cryovain and in DoIP the young white dragon, that acts as the 'villain', is called Cryovain as well, which could suggest DoIP takes place long before STK, maybe a few centuries or so.
Younger dragons are known to take an older dragon's name to sound more threatening. So the SKT Cryovain and the DoIP Cryovain could very well be two different Cryovains.
At 7 minutes you state that CoS is sort of "out of time" but it's not really true because Mordenkainen is the mad mage in CoS, and we know that he escaped Barovia because he is free and is an NPC in Descent into Avernus, placing CoS firmly in the past of DiA.
I’m currently doing this with my group and am interpreting the order of events kind of loosely. My opinion is that these things are all such earth shattering events all happing within a (relatively) short 4-5 year time period that it totally makes sense for them to overlap each other. In my spin it goes like this: LMoP and DoIP (and subsequent expansions revolving around Leilon) all happen at roughly the same time leading into HotDQ/RoT and SKT all happening at the same time. My guidelines are that as long as this combination of modules happen AFTER OotA and BEFORE ToA and AI, it works with some light tweaking to create an awesome “2nd Giant-Dragon War” Saga for one party. Then adventures like RotFM and PotA are handled by other separate parties WHILE that main party is dealing with the Giants and the Dragons. Also I include Dragon Heist as an “evil characters only” campaign since in my timeline, the heist is part of the Dragon Cult’s plan to build Tiamat’s horde.
This is a very interesting idea. I very much enjoy continuity and timelines, but it's a bit rough, because WotC wrote the adventures almost like every adventuring group to be it's own diverging storyline. For groups that stick together for a long time, I think that's an exciting prospect, because maybe folks ran Frostmaiden together, then did Stormking's Thunder. Since they both have parts set in Icewind Dale, it'd be fun to hear about the brave adventurers that did...so and so, or to even meet the characters, if maybe one of them retired to run an Inn or became an elected official. I'm not sure if it's the group that I play with, but the year has never really come up in most stories, other than for minor character backstory things (Pre-hotenow Neverwinter, etc), so I've never thought about it. Until my group played Frostmaiden, the books never really had much of an impact either. I suppose our group in general has preferred to keep to our own timeline, and sprinkle in fun little easter eggs and callbacks when we can.
I was going to run these in order. It was going to be a faction of some type that sent members to different missions. So my players would have multiple PCs that all knew each other and were in the same faction/organisation.
Personally, I like to run Tomb Of Annihilation (ToA) after Waterdeep Dragon Heist. Although Dungeon Crawls can be fun, Dungeon of the Mad Mage was too much of a dungeon crawl. On the opposite side, ToA is too much of a Wilderness Exploration, thus I made sure to insert some dungeon crawls into it.
I used a character in Murder in Baldur's gate and use it again in Decent into Avernus, being all washed up and depressed (and leveled down) and by the end they end up all restored because of shenanigans in the campaign and now I used it again in Baldur's gate 3 because it fits so good.
That'd be like 17 years worth of sessions minimum with how often my group meets but i'd love that. Currently we're running SKT and ToA in parallel. The characters in each game are unaware of each other and we're being a bit loose with the time line because of the Mcguffin a certain ex-Harper has and the interested parties.
Have you seen that the next Magic: The Gathering set will be set in FORGOTTEN REALMS? Would you like to Record a collab video about what cards to expect?
Months later, this video is still in my mind. Now I have started my first proper 5e Adventure with a happy little group of beginners, so we started with lost mines of Phandelver. I want to keep the Timeline, and there is some new adventures that you talked about. Im thinking about starting in Phandelver and then taking them to Chult for the tomb or to waterdeep. Im not quite sure yet, but i either want them to travel back in time to get to the events leading up to phandelver or start a second adventure that starts with the earlier timeline.
i now really wanna work with some ppl to adapt the list of main adventures into a single 1-20 adventure, that could honestly be so fun, even if it takes years to complete
So, one thing I do know about the timeline is that Dragon of Icespire Peak should happen shortly after Storm Kings Thunder, since Cryovain is supposed to free himself/be saved from the Frost Giants in STK and then head to Phandalin to establish a layer in DoIP. Doesn't fit in nicely with that timeline though.
I'd say that those are different dragons that just got the same name in common, since one is an adult white that's had it's kids stolen and the one in DoIP is a young one.
It makes me wonder why they didn't release them IN ORDER. I mean, they claim that LMoP is the starting adventure for nearly everything, yet, it did not occur until the middle of the timeline. It's just another reason to walk away from the Forgotten Realms. So far: -Dragons and Giants everywhere yet there is zero repercussions for how much these creatures consume/destroy -Nations without natural borders who apparently either openly or secretly war yet nothing changes. -There are apocalyptic events every few years yet the world never changes. Each even could potentially end the world...yet never does. It's like living in a comic book. -Somehow there are potentially super high level characters wandering everywhere...so heroes aren't really exceptional. Yay. -In a world where magic seems required to exist, and resurrection is a joke, Tomb of Annihilation would kill THOUSANDS. Yet did not. Imagine the effect on faiths and religions that use their power to resurrect to gain favor. Imagine the possible religious upheaval. Did anything change? No? Right. -Out of the Abyss SHOULD have triggered either an incursion of Angels, or the Devils would have taken a hand in altering the Blood War. After all, either their support in the FR would have been in danger, OR the major leaders of the Demonic side would have been in the material plane and not supporting the attack on Avernus. -Curse of Strahd is another plane of existence with it's own weird timeline, so it's appearance is irrelevant. It's timeline is cyclical. -And as far as Acq Inc being canon, the players encountered and played through these events when they were released, not when this list references it. It's seriously out of order - a completely separate timeline. It makes NO sense. Watch the Acq Inc TH-cam series. It completely smashes this timeline. So which is it? Is Acq Inc canon, or this list...despite it's own clear contradictions either way. FR is a mess. It's literally written like some hackneyed soap opera where the actions of some evil twin half-brother's best friend are presented in a way that they will change the world...and then are just as quickly forgotten. Even the insanity and dread of Barovia makes more sense. Avernus makes more sense. Ed Greenwood drank his own Kool Aid.
If you read the comments on that blog there are errors and disconnects wrt LMOP and DOIP. Specifically, they occur around the same year due to NPC descriptions and ages. Further, the follow on Beyond Icespire Peak trilogy that follows DOIP has Leilon in the early phases of rebuilding. I believe that means in happens before SKT because of some description of Leilon therein. The justification of AI and dates, I'd take more with a grain of salt due to the tone of that adventure. IIRC there were other oversights in the blog too.
currently DMing for a acquisition incorporated into Rime of the Frostmaiden. it is neat to know the timeline but how I'd do things if i did chronologically I would likely have players make fresh character each campaign and allow older characters to return if the new character died. possible have the old PC's Family member/student join if that PC retired. either way I want to create a sense of legacy
I have a suggestion for a "part 2 video", if you're interested to continue talking about the timeline of events: this same article details the names of future years after the events of Avernus/Acquisitions. Like, 1494 DR is called "The Year of Twelve Warnings" and we know it's the same year Elturel is pulled into the Nine Hells. Maybe this is one of the warnings. What about the other eleven? 1499 DR is the "Year of the Desperate Gambit"... what gambit is this and how can it be connected to a previous module? What do future years' names might mean and how do they connect with the already published adventures? Maybe the obelisks that keep appearing on the adventures might have some sort of connection. It'd be interesting to see you talking about it.
Same characters as a main line group with a B squad doing Tomb of Annihilation and Waterdeep: DotMM. Main line group doesn’t do Rise of Tiamat right away though, but when they are 20th level, they go and stop Tiamat at near full power
Oh man, this is something that I try to do all the time, can't wait to hear your take. Edit: Yeah, it's the same one. I have one big gripe with this. Connerad Brawnavil appears in Rise of Tiamat but he dies before 1489 because Gaultgrym was taken in 1486 and he died in battle. In the end I put RoT in 1485. Basically the author of the post decided published organized play material has precedence over novels. I decided to put the novel first because it's how the 5e timeline starts.
The reason for this is that HOTQ and ROT were written a year or more before the book Archmage, where connerad was killed. Its more than likely a mix up between RA Salvatore and WOTC/Kobold Press. The previous books of Rise of the King and Vengeance of The Iron Dwarf also mention the Rise of Tiamat in their dealings with Old White Death.
@@Cosmic1444 oh I see. Welp too late for my table now 😅 Salvatore is known for breaking lore. I got really sad at the state he left the world in the last book. Maybe for the future people should replace Connerad with Dagnabet then.
Thanks for the video! I don't remember, but have you done a video in which you review the modules? Or maybe you tell us your experience with the modules you've played. That would be dope to watch.
Or perhaps a parallel timeline? A year after all is split into 12 months of exactly 30 days for a 365 calender year...so, nine months for one and 3 for another? Food for thought.
I wanna create a timeline for my Wizard PC/NPC who the party gets scrolls and stuff from, and figure out what she's been doing during each of the adventures
The problem with Phandelver being simultaneous with Princes is that it must be before Hoard, since the Cult of the Dragon is in Thundertree attempting to recruit Venomfang. Also, I love how they placed something at a certain place on the timeline because they arbitrarily decided that it's "not likely" to be when it says it was, lol. I'll just stick with release order for the sake of my sanity. Last time *I* looked, there were hints and hooks to line them up in release order, so...
We actually have our own timeline. Characters from the previous games still exist in the same world as the characters in the current games. Some of our characters are sometimes the children of previous characters. We also have two different timelines Dimension 1 and Dimension 2.
So I've been DMing RotFM since October. One of the party members died and they travelled to Baldur's Gate to try to rez her(RIP Tippy Tealeaf). My party got too big, so I split the party and the other half is going to run through (scaled up) HotDQ abridged and then RoT parallel to the second half of RotFM. Not sure what the complete game plan is, but I think it would be really cool to have a team up at the end where they all fight a full powered Tiamat Avengers style. xD
I'm wondering when Mordenkainen wrote and published his Tome of Foes within the timeline. It definitely was after Curse of Strahd when he was rescued from Barovia, and after Storm Silverhand nursed him back from his insanity. According to the FG wiki, he travelled through the multiverse through the Tower of Urm in 1494, so unless I'm missing something, he must have wrote it sometime after 1494.
It's funny I actually made my own timeline a while back, not based off of anything as detailed as in the books, but thematically setting these all together in an MCU Style format as I knew them. Hopefully using the same players, they would create at least 3 characters that after the first adventures they would begin picking to mix and match for all subsequent adventures. First one party would tackle the Tyranny of Dragons adventures. This is Team A. Once that is over, Team B would be introduced they would start in Phandalin playing a Mix of Lost Mine of Phandelver and Dragon of Icespire Peak, then move on to Princes of the Apocalypse only to be captured by drow at the end! Team B would then do Out of the Abyss (the main tie here is the drow priest of Tharizdun). Next we're introduced to Team C (though maybe one member of team A is involved), and they become aware that because of what happened with the Cult of the Dragon, the Ordening has been broken and Storm King's Thunder happens. Now things begin to cross-over because some, if not all, of Team A have gone off to Thay to investigate the Red Wizard's influence and the Doomvault adventure is used. Next some if not all of Team C decides to look into the Ring of Winter and they follow rumors to Chult and to Tomb of Annihilation. They return to Baldur's gate afterward. But first a comedic interlude where all of the leftover characters or maybe some fun new ones run the Waterdeep adventures as the Guardians of the Galaxy of this scenario. "Finally" we come to the climax of the first stage as members of all 3 teams find themselves in Baldur's Gate for the events of Descent into Avernus, fighting devils, demons (from OotA) and an angry Tiamat who knows at least Team A. The day (and maybe Zariel) is saved, but a cry for help comes from the sealed off North of Icewind Dale. First there is a flash-back to Legacy of the Crystal Shard with a "new" team D and then an open mix of all four teams goes on to run Rime of the Frostmaiden. This would be chaos with so much continuity to keep track of and characters of high and mixed levels in any given adventure, but boy would it be fun.
Not exactly how I pictured the timeline, kinda cool. So baring the sword coast, where in the Realms would you like to see an adventurer? I am missing Cormyr and the Dales.
I think it would be fun to run these all in order, with a different DM each time, with characters tangentially related to previous groups. Children, Spouses, Relatives, Friends, Mentors, etc
There are some other issues with the timeline due to other events in several of the campaign books...Lost Mines and Icespire kind of end up in an odd place because of some of that where there are specific things in various campaign books intended to tie them into it for various purposes.
I see a problem with Rime of the Frostmaiden being before Storm King’s Thunder. It says in Rime of the Frostmaiden that Auril has been set up in Icewind Dale for two years and that it hasn’t seen a summer in those two years. We see no evidence of Icewind Dale suffering the effects of the Everlasting Rime during Storm King’s Thunder (granted it came out after.) In Storm King’s Thunder there are several businesses open in Bryn Shander that make no appearance in RotF. Presumably this is because the long winter drove them out of business. In SKT, Bryn Shander has stone walls, in RotF it has a wooden palisade. This is probably because the Frost Giant siege in SKT knocked down large portions of the old stone wall. All in all, there’s a lot of evidence that SKT already happened in RotF.
If you set your Storm King's Thunder after your Rise of Tiamat, you might have difficulty getting your players to accept a balloon ride from some friendly Cult of the Dragon members. I definitely think those two modules might go better in the other order. That way, you can have a low-level flunky of the cult running this balloon errand, and the players bond with her a little, and then she turns up later commanding a raiding party attacking Greenest.
Jorphdan could you or have you done a video on say the top 10 DM toolkits or things that's a must for DM'S. From a specific type of battle mat. To organizers for campaigns etc....
@@Jorphdan That would be a good idea. The things you've found that help a DM run efficient but immersive campaign. Ive been a DM since 2nd edition. And have alot I do already to accomplish that. But you may have insights that could help. I've been asked to run a LotR campaign taking place in 2nd age. About 500 years before rings of power created.
As for instance, I found a set of 6" Hexagon puzzle pieces (Dry or wet erase) with 1" hexes on each. Made by "Roll 4 Initiative". Allowing for a fog of war map, instead of covering parts of map with black paper.
Would be great to have him Remember all of the cycle at the end of the adventure just to have him begin the cycle anew. Could really add to his sentence in the domain of dread.
I love how inadvertently the domians are like the world of dark souls because of this mechanic. The lands that shift around and subtly change as the lords fueling them die or are usurped and cycling history repeating itself eventually either way. Not to mention the grey mist being the true state of the plane, the literally soulless hollow people, and people praying to a sun god in a place with no sun.
Also food for thought, could go with the route that he has vague memories jumbled together in deja vu. Like he knows he's fought thousands of would be heros even though he only killed his brother two centuries ago and hasn't actually fought more than a few groups in that cycle.
Heres the thing most people dont notice about lost mines and dragon of ice spire.Lost Mines takes place 30 years after the eruption and Icespire takes place 50 years after..BUT! all the NPC's are the exact same and are the same age in both stories!! I think theres something going on with people not aging that were all not paying attenion to!
@@jacobjensen7704 more than likely they just copy and pasted them over from one adventure to the next since there both beginner sets. But, its a need hook if anyone wants to use it lol.
I don’t play them in Chronological order - but for each table I DM for all FR games happen in the same Universe and their previous characters have a chance to appear. Of my current table, the only living survivor of my tomb of annihilation campaign is now chief of security to one of the Lord of Waterdeep and lives next door to the Trollskull Tavern in Dragon Heist. The survivors of Dragon Heist are now split in a joint campaign between Rime of the Frost Maiden and Storm Kings - my players have separate characters for both campaigns and love the rivalry - the Storm Kings table has a paladin of Auril who is trying to proselytize the frost giants away from Thrym. He claims Auril can remove the great glacier and restore the lost giant kingdom of Ostoria. The Rime campaign - they are working against Auril and very aware of the other groups machinations and reduce Aurils influence. (They actually love working against themselves lol)
Had this list existed back when I started play 5E, it would have looked totally different. I like how 1493 DR is mostly ignored in this list, for me it became the most bussy year. Different groups tackled Storm King's Thunder, Tomb of Annihilation, Waterdeep Dragon Heist and Mad Mage, with some adventures from Yawning Portal.
At first glance, It seems weird that Storm King's Thunder is showing as starting after Icewind Dale when in Icewind Dale Adventure it references things that happened in Storm Kings Thunder as happening 10 years earlier. It rreferences the Giant attack of 89' as well as the capture of Weevil 10 years ago when he was caught coming back to town for the famous firebrandy. I know because in my own timeline, Storm King's Thunder story hasn't happened yet and I was reading that to the players and was like.well actually this is news that has not yet passed yet, haha
Cool video :) You can do legacies, children's of children's - all from the same family but make it in the serious way and not the same character in different clothe
It's not the 'good old days' (I started running 1st ed) where you can just keep levelling them up forever. With each new major adventure, it would have to be reset and roll up new characters.
Here's where I'm to include both 5e and D&D Next (which was prototype 5e) The Diamond Staff of Chomylla [Vault of the Dracolich and Search for the Diamond Staff] (1479) Murder in Baldur’s Gate (1482) Ghosts of Dragonspear Castle (1484) Legacy of the Crystal Shard (1484) Reclaiming Blingdenstone (1485) Out of the Abyss (1485) Dreams of the Red Wizards [Scourge of the Sword Coast and Dead in Thay] (1486) Confrontation at Candlekeep (1487) Tyranny of Dragons [Hoard of the Dragon Queen and Rise of Tiamat] (1489) Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden (late 1489) Storm King’s Thunder (1490) Curse of Strahd (early 1491) Lost Mine of Phandelver (1491) Princes of the Apocalypse (1491) Tomb of Annihilation (late 1491) Waterdeep [Dragon Heist and Dungeon of the Mad Mage] (1492) Dragons of Icespire Peak (1492) Candlekeep Mysteries (1492) Descent Into Avernus (1494) Acquisitions Incorporated (1496)
What i think would make it interesting is playing related characters and doing some ester eggs with pcs from other advetures, maybe to do something akin to item trading from AL.
i did this about a year ago for my group campaign but I say the lost mine and the hoard run at the same time as in Thundertree you have cultists trying to buy a green dragon to the side of C O D this is how I am running mine anyways both happen to start in 1489 dr
Did it ever occur to you that whoever wrote the adventures just mentioned stuff from other publications without really thinking about the timeline? For example, I really don’t think that the writers of ToA thought of the timeline when they put in Volo writing Vgtm, nor that the WD:DH writers thought of the time line of ToA when they mentioned the book...
Not when it's Chris Perkins listed as the story writer and half of his job seems to be being the lore nerd who actually knows what's happened in the world and how all the events line up.
And for ur game, that can b perfectly ok! Just roll with it & shift some of the dates accordingly (if the ur pc's r super into keeping track) when they come up for continuity sake.
I think I forced my games to play differently, but thats ok. Theyre still mostly in the same order, just the times are a bit whacky. I've been playing an entire family of adventurers sequentially starting at ToA, then we jumped to Avernus some 20 years later where I played her daughter and were having waterdeep now running parallel. I like that the books dont really state the times as a solid thing so that I can do whacky things like that. :)
I think using the ad&d 2nd edition rules set would work good for this. Or the slow progression of pathfinder 1st edition. Alternatively you could just use story mode to level. Bring in some old school rules like the characters have to find time to train to gain levels as well as spend time training and money on that training would make it interesting.
Yea.... this is news only to those who aren’t also a fan and avid reader of the novels. Every chapter of almost every Novel tells you the year and sometimes even the month the events too place in.
Nice Forgotten Realms Chronological Order to add an interesting twist to the Published Order. Large enough library to organize play of DnD 5e. So Ghosts of Saltmarsh and Tales is excluded because unofficially Greyhawk-ish and what about the Tales from the Yawning Portal construction of the inn?
Saltmarsh and Yawning Portal are both taken directly from older editions. Therefore, while official 5E versions exist I'd say that the adventures therein would probably predate the 5E timeline. Tales from the Yawning Portal literally contains Against the Giants, which is G1-2-3 from AD&D 1st Edition, and The Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan which is C1. Saltmarsh contains U1-2-3. They are all set in Greyhawk, which also puts them outside the Faerun timeline.
That'd be a fun idea to have 3-4 people doing the different adventures in order with a few created characters. Perhaps some overlapping and even party swapping? Would take some DM wrangling to connect them all together, but I'm sure it could be done.
Would be fairly easy if the DM made it a requirement that the PCs are all connected to the main factions (Harpers, Zhents etc) and just have the previous party appear as npcs in future adventures.
playing each in order with different parties but talking about what happened in the last ones sounds like so much fun!
playing once a week, it'll only take you 6 years! (assuming you can finish a book in like 6 months?)
@@chaoko954 hah! that sounds like absolute chaos & I love it :P although knowing my party & how I gm... give us a decade I guess :P
I think Critical Role does that with Their own campaigns too
Oh man... just imagine being a mortal everyday joe in Faerun during the end of the century...🤣
Yeah...I mean you first get your land wrecked by some demons, then dragons, then giants then you cant go into your forest anymore because some weird mist fills the woods and after that gets dealt with for some reason you dont know a frickin deathcurse destroys nearly all of civilisation and depending on what ending you choose for Avernus either a giant City disapears and reappears or just stays in hell so now you can be terrified of that randomly happening. To be honest, this would work perfectly as the backstory for a human ranger or human fighter or maybe even paladin and cleric. Like he is so annoyed by the stuff that just keeps happening around him that he takes up adventuring. Maybe even for a evil human Warlock BBEG. Like someone who feels threatened by all this stuff that he called out to some dragon, fey, lich or demon or even Cthulhu/King in Yellow/Yog Sothoth/etc. to get enough power to feel safe, only to be so utterly corrupted by his new power that he becomes the new thing that happens to the World - maybe even beeing the reason for some other normal everyday joe to become an adventurer to defeat him! This is starting to intrigue me enough to write some NPCs
I'm kind of embarrassed that I'm much more interested in the Forgotten Realms' history than my country's 🤕
Imaginary histories give us the sweep, the grandeur, the act of becoming something awesome.
Real history nags us for mistakes, slow periods, shows us obstructionist
b∆$+@®ds , who slow us, steal from us, poison the world we live in, break our 💕, etc.
Then it says we should have done better, seen the pitfalls, and transcended everything, NO MATTER WHAT.
Frankly, I like History, but I'm with you🤔👍🗣️🔥
After binging all 38 of the Drizzt audiobooks recently, I came to the conclusion that it’d be a nightmare to be a common person living on Faerun.
If your semi-rural family’s innocence isn’t getting brutalised by Orc / Troll / Goblin raids (or wars), then your city-dwelling family is being preyed on by vampires / devil-worshippers / demon-possessed nobility.
That said… I’d still probably take living in Faerun over living our current (and oh-so-obviously darkest) timeline here on Earth.
@@qzbnyv not to mention the constant groups of adventurers coming through and interrupting your life (for good and bad) I wonder how many times Phandelver has been used.
I love the lore and timelines of Forgotten Realms, but as a player and DM I always loved the openness of Mystara setting, because it gave you so much leeway to carve out and shape the world in different ways each time you started over.
Although I've never played in Mystara setting, the way the players and DM's of today, i feel, want more spoon fed content, than being creative and "carving out" the world themselves. :(
Dungeons and dragons is like legos. Yeah the lego kits have very complex instructions, but creating your own stuff has always been the original way to play with them. I have always treated it like Marvels comics. My adventures take place in my diminsion, the books take place in a different diminsion, similar but different.
I remember having to make a timeline for our home games, we've run all the modules in a shared Fearun.
My roommate and I realized there was probably a Canon timeline but what is more important is the characters interaction with the world, plot serves the players stories IMO.
I saw when you posted this timeline. My first thought was, wait the low level adventure is almost in the middle
Because it’s a timeline for the entire world (setting). It’s not meant to be played as one campaign, so the levels of each story is irrelevant to the timeline
@@JAG19d I imagine if people did this like that it would either require leveling down or using different characters each time the level drops to 1. That could be fun though do LMoP and then do DoIP with new characters only to hear about you old characters.
@@JAG19d it was merely my initial thought upon seeing the timeline written out.
Props to Waterdeep: The campaign my players LOVE, even though 75% is my invention, 20% from reddit, and 5% from published material
For real though I feel like what most book writers make and what most players want to play in and do are very different things. Which sucks because goddammit there are some things I like to homebrew as a GM (lore and story mods) and I was hoping the book would help me avoid the stuff I don't want to do (maps, finishing 5e mechanics, designing fun dungeons)! It kind of ends up the other way around, which is annoying. Seriously, paying for the book and then paying again for usable maps makes me wonder why I bought the book!
It’s how I play: the book serves better as a guide not a story. Use what works drop what doesn’t and sprinkle in whatever you want :)
As the best campaigns should be.
That described every module made lol
a Tombstone fan my good man
Dragon of Icespire Peak (essentials kit, DoIP) actually takes place much longer ago because of one reason. In Storm King's Thunder (STK), in the frost giants lair (I can't remember the name of the lair), there is an adult white dragon named Cryovain and in DoIP the young white dragon, that acts as the 'villain', is called Cryovain as well, which could suggest DoIP takes place long before STK, maybe a few centuries or so.
Spoilery?
Younger dragons are known to take an older dragon's name to sound more threatening. So the SKT Cryovain and the DoIP Cryovain could very well be two different Cryovains.
@@genghisgalahad8465 Cryovain is not that relevant in SKT's plot, and its name isn't that important in DoIP either.
Man. Can you please give a "spoiler alert" before you do this?
To be an adult Dragon it need 300 years
This is awesome! Thank you Jorphdan!
At 7 minutes you state that CoS is sort of "out of time" but it's not really true because Mordenkainen is the mad mage in CoS, and we know that he escaped Barovia because he is free and is an NPC in Descent into Avernus, placing CoS firmly in the past of DiA.
I’m currently doing this with my group and am interpreting the order of events kind of loosely. My opinion is that these things are all such earth shattering events all happing within a (relatively) short 4-5 year time period that it totally makes sense for them to overlap each other. In my spin it goes like this: LMoP and DoIP (and subsequent expansions revolving around Leilon) all happen at roughly the same time leading into HotDQ/RoT and SKT all happening at the same time. My guidelines are that as long as this combination of modules happen AFTER OotA and BEFORE ToA and AI, it works with some light tweaking to create an awesome “2nd Giant-Dragon War” Saga for one party. Then adventures like RotFM and PotA are handled by other separate parties WHILE that main party is dealing with the Giants and the Dragons.
Also I include Dragon Heist as an “evil characters only” campaign since in my timeline, the heist is part of the Dragon Cult’s plan to build Tiamat’s horde.
This is a very interesting idea. I very much enjoy continuity and timelines, but it's a bit rough, because WotC wrote the adventures almost like every adventuring group to be it's own diverging storyline. For groups that stick together for a long time, I think that's an exciting prospect, because maybe folks ran Frostmaiden together, then did Stormking's Thunder. Since they both have parts set in Icewind Dale, it'd be fun to hear about the brave adventurers that did...so and so, or to even meet the characters, if maybe one of them retired to run an Inn or became an elected official.
I'm not sure if it's the group that I play with, but the year has never really come up in most stories, other than for minor character backstory things (Pre-hotenow Neverwinter, etc), so I've never thought about it. Until my group played Frostmaiden, the books never really had much of an impact either. I suppose our group in general has preferred to keep to our own timeline, and sprinkle in fun little easter eggs and callbacks when we can.
I was going to run these in order. It was going to be a faction of some type that sent members to different missions. So my players would have multiple PCs that all knew each other and were in the same faction/organisation.
Personally, I like to run Tomb Of Annihilation (ToA) after Waterdeep Dragon Heist. Although Dungeon Crawls can be fun, Dungeon of the Mad Mage was too much of a dungeon crawl. On the opposite side, ToA is too much of a Wilderness Exploration, thus I made sure to insert some dungeon crawls into it.
I used a character in Murder in Baldur's gate and use it again in Decent into Avernus, being all washed up and depressed (and leveled down) and by the end they end up all restored because of shenanigans in the campaign and now I used it again in Baldur's gate 3 because it fits so good.
That'd be like 17 years worth of sessions minimum with how often my group meets but i'd love that. Currently we're running SKT and ToA in parallel. The characters in each game are unaware of each other and we're being a bit loose with the time line because of the Mcguffin a certain ex-Harper has and the interested parties.
it takes a year of real-time to play 24 of game time with my group
I really love your new format by the way
Have you seen that the next Magic: The Gathering set will be set in FORGOTTEN REALMS? Would you like to Record a collab video about what cards to expect?
Months later, this video is still in my mind. Now I have started my first proper 5e Adventure with a happy little group of beginners, so we started with lost mines of Phandelver. I want to keep the Timeline, and there is some new adventures that you talked about. Im thinking about starting in Phandelver and then taking them to Chult for the tomb or to waterdeep. Im not quite sure yet, but i either want them to travel back in time to get to the events leading up to phandelver or start a second adventure that starts with the earlier timeline.
Nice! You might think about combining all the 5e Forgotten Realms adventures into one mega adventure. I made a video on that too~
Was kinda curious what your take on this would be. Excited to see what you think!
@Jorphdan Alphastream (Teos Abadia) is a friend, he actually was one of the Acq Inc book writers and one of the DMs from D&D Virtual Weekends.
Thanks Jorphdan! Appreciate the timeline!
i now really wanna work with some ppl to adapt the list of main adventures into a single 1-20 adventure, that could honestly be so fun, even if it takes years to complete
I have actually been working on this exact same thing for about a year would love to collaborate sometime
So, one thing I do know about the timeline is that Dragon of Icespire Peak should happen shortly after Storm Kings Thunder, since Cryovain is supposed to free himself/be saved from the Frost Giants in STK and then head to Phandalin to establish a layer in DoIP. Doesn't fit in nicely with that timeline though.
I'd say that those are different dragons that just got the same name in common, since one is an adult white that's had it's kids stolen and the one in DoIP is a young one.
It makes me wonder why they didn't release them IN ORDER. I mean, they claim that LMoP is the starting adventure for nearly everything, yet, it did not occur until the middle of the timeline. It's just another reason to walk away from the Forgotten Realms. So far:
-Dragons and Giants everywhere yet there is zero repercussions for how much these creatures consume/destroy
-Nations without natural borders who apparently either openly or secretly war yet nothing changes.
-There are apocalyptic events every few years yet the world never changes. Each even could potentially end the world...yet never does. It's like living in a comic book.
-Somehow there are potentially super high level characters wandering everywhere...so heroes aren't really exceptional. Yay.
-In a world where magic seems required to exist, and resurrection is a joke, Tomb of Annihilation would kill THOUSANDS. Yet did not. Imagine the effect on faiths and religions that use their power to resurrect to gain favor. Imagine the possible religious upheaval. Did anything change? No? Right.
-Out of the Abyss SHOULD have triggered either an incursion of Angels, or the Devils would have taken a hand in altering the Blood War. After all, either their support in the FR would have been in danger, OR the major leaders of the Demonic side would have been in the material plane and not supporting the attack on Avernus.
-Curse of Strahd is another plane of existence with it's own weird timeline, so it's appearance is irrelevant. It's timeline is cyclical.
-And as far as Acq Inc being canon, the players encountered and played through these events when they were released, not when this list references it. It's seriously out of order - a completely separate timeline. It makes NO sense. Watch the Acq Inc TH-cam series. It completely smashes this timeline.
So which is it? Is Acq Inc canon, or this list...despite it's own clear contradictions either way.
FR is a mess. It's literally written like some hackneyed soap opera where the actions of some evil twin half-brother's best friend are presented in a way that they will change the world...and then are just as quickly forgotten. Even the insanity and dread of Barovia makes more sense. Avernus makes more sense. Ed Greenwood drank his own Kool Aid.
If you read the comments on that blog there are errors and disconnects wrt LMOP and DOIP. Specifically, they occur around the same year due to NPC descriptions and ages. Further, the follow on Beyond Icespire Peak trilogy that follows DOIP has Leilon in the early phases of rebuilding. I believe that means in happens before SKT because of some description of Leilon therein.
The justification of AI and dates, I'd take more with a grain of salt due to the tone of that adventure.
IIRC there were other oversights in the blog too.
Volo’s Guide to Monsters is not being written during Tomb of Annihilation, it is already published. Player characters can buy a copy for 50gp
currently DMing for a acquisition incorporated into Rime of the Frostmaiden. it is neat to know the timeline but how I'd do things
if i did chronologically I would likely have players make fresh character each campaign and allow older characters to return if the new character died. possible have the old PC's Family member/student join if that PC retired. either way I want to create a sense of legacy
I have a suggestion for a "part 2 video", if you're interested to continue talking about the timeline of events: this same article details the names of future years after the events of Avernus/Acquisitions.
Like, 1494 DR is called "The Year of Twelve Warnings" and we know it's the same year Elturel is pulled into the Nine Hells. Maybe this is one of the warnings. What about the other eleven? 1499 DR is the "Year of the Desperate Gambit"... what gambit is this and how can it be connected to a previous module?
What do future years' names might mean and how do they connect with the already published adventures? Maybe the obelisks that keep appearing on the adventures might have some sort of connection.
It'd be interesting to see you talking about it.
Same characters as a main line group with a B squad doing Tomb of Annihilation and Waterdeep: DotMM.
Main line group doesn’t do Rise of Tiamat right away though, but when they are 20th level, they go and stop Tiamat at near full power
Oh man, this is something that I try to do all the time, can't wait to hear your take.
Edit: Yeah, it's the same one. I have one big gripe with this. Connerad Brawnavil appears in Rise of Tiamat but he dies before 1489 because Gaultgrym was taken in 1486 and he died in battle.
In the end I put RoT in 1485. Basically the author of the post decided published organized play material has precedence over novels. I decided to put the novel first because it's how the 5e timeline starts.
The reason for this is that HOTQ and ROT were written a year or more before the book Archmage, where connerad was killed. Its more than likely a mix up between RA Salvatore and WOTC/Kobold Press. The previous books of Rise of the King and Vengeance of The Iron Dwarf also mention the Rise of Tiamat in their dealings with Old White Death.
@@Cosmic1444 oh I see. Welp too late for my table now 😅 Salvatore is known for breaking lore. I got really sad at the state he left the world in the last book.
Maybe for the future people should replace Connerad with Dagnabet then.
Thanks for the video!
I don't remember, but have you done a video in which you review the modules? Or maybe you tell us your experience with the modules you've played. That would be dope to watch.
The Rise of Tiamat book references Storm King's Thunder - it has to come after it.
Or perhaps a parallel timeline? A year after all is split into 12 months of exactly 30 days for a 365 calender year...so, nine months for one and 3 for another?
Food for thought.
Amazing, informative. Thank you and the article writers for this!
I wanna create a timeline for my Wizard PC/NPC who the party gets scrolls and stuff from, and figure out what she's been doing during each of the adventures
The problem with Phandelver being simultaneous with Princes is that it must be before Hoard, since the Cult of the Dragon is in Thundertree attempting to recruit Venomfang. Also, I love how they placed something at a certain place on the timeline because they arbitrarily decided that it's "not likely" to be when it says it was, lol. I'll just stick with release order for the sake of my sanity. Last time *I* looked, there were hints and hooks to line them up in release order, so...
Anymore vids about the world you created? Really enjoyed those vids a out world building. Rock on Jorphdan 😁🥂😁
Excellent content, Thanks for the hard work!
We actually have our own timeline. Characters from the previous games still exist in the same world as the characters in the current games. Some of our characters are sometimes the children of previous characters. We also have two different timelines Dimension 1 and Dimension 2.
So I've been DMing RotFM since October.
One of the party members died and they travelled to Baldur's Gate to try to rez her(RIP Tippy Tealeaf).
My party got too big, so I split the party and the other half is going to run through (scaled up) HotDQ abridged and then RoT parallel to the second half of RotFM.
Not sure what the complete game plan is, but I think it would be really cool to have a team up at the end where they all fight a full powered Tiamat Avengers style. xD
I'm wondering when Mordenkainen wrote and published his Tome of Foes within the timeline. It definitely was after Curse of Strahd when he was rescued from Barovia, and after Storm Silverhand nursed him back from his insanity. According to the FG wiki, he travelled through the multiverse through the Tower of Urm in 1494, so unless I'm missing something, he must have wrote it sometime after 1494.
Just today I wandered the web for FR timeline for my LMoP group's calendar. Coincidences don't happen! Thx for the video
Lets be honest, not officially setting up a timeline of events gives lore hounds something to dig into.
It's funny I actually made my own timeline a while back, not based off of anything as detailed as in the books, but thematically setting these all together in an MCU Style format as I knew them. Hopefully using the same players, they would create at least 3 characters that after the first adventures they would begin picking to mix and match for all subsequent adventures.
First one party would tackle the Tyranny of Dragons adventures. This is Team A.
Once that is over, Team B would be introduced they would start in Phandalin playing a Mix of Lost Mine of Phandelver and Dragon of Icespire Peak, then move on to Princes of the Apocalypse only to be captured by drow at the end! Team B would then do Out of the Abyss (the main tie here is the drow priest of Tharizdun).
Next we're introduced to Team C (though maybe one member of team A is involved), and they become aware that because of what happened with the Cult of the Dragon, the Ordening has been broken and Storm King's Thunder happens.
Now things begin to cross-over because some, if not all, of Team A have gone off to Thay to investigate the Red Wizard's influence and the Doomvault adventure is used.
Next some if not all of Team C decides to look into the Ring of Winter and they follow rumors to Chult and to Tomb of Annihilation. They return to Baldur's gate afterward.
But first a comedic interlude where all of the leftover characters or maybe some fun new ones run the Waterdeep adventures as the Guardians of the Galaxy of this scenario.
"Finally" we come to the climax of the first stage as members of all 3 teams find themselves in Baldur's Gate for the events of Descent into Avernus, fighting devils, demons (from OotA) and an angry Tiamat who knows at least Team A. The day (and maybe Zariel) is saved, but a cry for help comes from the sealed off North of Icewind Dale.
First there is a flash-back to Legacy of the Crystal Shard with a "new" team D and then an open mix of all four teams goes on to run Rime of the Frostmaiden.
This would be chaos with so much continuity to keep track of and characters of high and mixed levels in any given adventure, but boy would it be fun.
Not exactly how I pictured the timeline, kinda cool. So baring the sword coast, where in the Realms would you like to see an adventurer? I am missing Cormyr and the Dales.
I set my character in the Great Dale, specifically the Forest of Lethyr- the lore there seems so cool it could be a campaign of its own!
I think it would be fun to run these all in order, with a different DM each time, with characters tangentially related to previous groups. Children, Spouses, Relatives, Friends, Mentors, etc
That is legitimately a fantastic idea.
Thank you, I have always wanted to do a staggered storyline series of games like that, and this would be a great opportunity
I Wish I could play in a Campaign like this vs running it. It sounds amazing!
There are some other issues with the timeline due to other events in several of the campaign books...Lost Mines and Icespire kind of end up in an odd place because of some of that where there are specific things in various campaign books intended to tie them into it for various purposes.
I see a problem with Rime of the Frostmaiden being before Storm King’s Thunder.
It says in Rime of the Frostmaiden that Auril has been set up in Icewind Dale for two years and that it hasn’t seen a summer in those two years. We see no evidence of Icewind Dale suffering the effects of the Everlasting Rime during Storm King’s Thunder (granted it came out after.)
In Storm King’s Thunder there are several businesses open in Bryn Shander that make no appearance in RotF. Presumably this is because the long winter drove them out of business. In SKT, Bryn Shander has stone walls, in RotF it has a wooden palisade. This is probably because the Frost Giant siege in SKT knocked down large portions of the old stone wall.
All in all, there’s a lot of evidence that SKT already happened in RotF.
I was looking for something like this!!!!! Huzzaaaahhh!!!!
I shudder to think how long it'd take to play these all back to back with the average group
If you set your Storm King's Thunder after your Rise of Tiamat, you might have difficulty getting your players to accept a balloon ride from some friendly Cult of the Dragon members. I definitely think those two modules might go better in the other order. That way, you can have a low-level flunky of the cult running this balloon errand, and the players bond with her a little, and then she turns up later commanding a raiding party attacking Greenest.
You can always introduce a madman in a box to take the PCs from adventure to adventure. ;-)
Jorphdan could you or have you done a video on say the top 10 DM toolkits or things that's a must for DM'S. From a specific type of battle mat. To organizers for campaigns etc....
Not directly. It would be a good video topic though, I could do it with a walk around my game room
@@Jorphdan That would be a good idea. The things you've found that help a DM run efficient but immersive campaign. Ive been a DM since 2nd edition. And have alot I do already to accomplish that. But you may have insights that could help. I've been asked to run a LotR campaign taking place in 2nd age. About 500 years before rings of power created.
As for instance, I found a set of 6" Hexagon puzzle pieces (Dry or wet erase) with 1" hexes on each. Made by "Roll 4 Initiative". Allowing for a fog of war map, instead of covering parts of map with black paper.
Quick sidebar: deos Strahd retain his memory from each cycle and defeat?
Depends on the edition, the individual module and writers. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. If you want him to then go for it and enjoy.
Would be great to have him Remember all of the cycle at the end of the adventure just to have him begin the cycle anew. Could really add to his sentence in the domain of dread.
I love how inadvertently the domians are like the world of dark souls because of this mechanic. The lands that shift around and subtly change as the lords fueling them die or are usurped and cycling history repeating itself eventually either way. Not to mention the grey mist being the true state of the plane, the literally soulless hollow people, and people praying to a sun god in a place with no sun.
Also food for thought, could go with the route that he has vague memories jumbled together in deja vu. Like he knows he's fought thousands of would be heros even though he only killed his brother two centuries ago and hasn't actually fought more than a few groups in that cycle.
@@mattmoseley6429 I like this.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing this!
Heres the thing most people dont notice about lost mines and dragon of ice spire.Lost Mines takes place 30 years after the eruption and Icespire takes place 50 years after..BUT! all the NPC's are the exact same and are the same age in both stories!! I think theres something going on with people not aging that were all not paying attenion to!
Or they just messed that up when designing it :P
@@jacobjensen7704 more than likely they just copy and pasted them over from one adventure to the next since there both beginner sets. But, its a need hook if anyone wants to use it lol.
I don’t play them in Chronological order - but for each table I DM for all FR games happen in the same Universe and their previous characters have a chance to appear. Of my current table, the only living survivor of my tomb of annihilation campaign is now chief of security to one of the Lord of Waterdeep and lives next door to the Trollskull Tavern in Dragon Heist. The survivors of Dragon Heist are now split in a joint campaign between Rime of the Frost Maiden and Storm Kings - my players have separate characters for both campaigns and love the rivalry - the Storm Kings table has a paladin of Auril who is trying to proselytize the frost giants away from Thrym. He claims Auril can remove the great glacier and restore the lost giant kingdom of Ostoria.
The Rime campaign - they are working against Auril and very aware of the other groups machinations and reduce Aurils influence. (They actually love working against themselves lol)
Had this list existed back when I started play 5E, it would have looked totally different. I like how 1493 DR is mostly ignored in this list, for me it became the most bussy year. Different groups tackled Storm King's Thunder, Tomb of Annihilation, Waterdeep Dragon Heist and Mad Mage, with some adventures from Yawning Portal.
I have been so hyped for this I saw the community post
At first glance, It seems weird that Storm King's Thunder is showing as starting after Icewind Dale when in Icewind Dale Adventure it references things that happened in Storm Kings Thunder as happening 10 years earlier. It rreferences the Giant attack of 89' as well as the capture of Weevil 10 years ago when he was caught coming back to town for the famous firebrandy. I know because in my own timeline, Storm King's Thunder story hasn't happened yet and I was reading that to the players and was like.well actually this is news that has not yet passed yet, haha
8:03 never trust a cleanly rounded number
It would be kind of cool to play LMoP as the sidekicks/retainers your party had in the higher level adventure you went through first
Cool video :)
You can do legacies, children's of children's - all from the same family but make it in the serious way and not the same character in different clothe
In Curse of Tiamat you are sent to the north to fight a white dragon so that could be the segway into rime of the frostmadien
The zombie plague came ten years after the erruption of mount hotenow when they where created as a result of the Thayan dread ring?
Love the new intro
Around here we don't even play the Adventure League modules in order.
If you figure out how to run all the adventures with one group of characters let us know!
I'm working on it now ^^
It's not the 'good old days' (I started running 1st ed) where you can just keep levelling them up forever. With each new major adventure, it would have to be reset and roll up new characters.
Play each of these games in order and each group of charters come together. Then do like a big event type game like at conventions.
Here's where I'm to include both 5e and D&D Next (which was prototype 5e)
The Diamond Staff of Chomylla [Vault of the Dracolich and Search for the Diamond Staff] (1479)
Murder in Baldur’s Gate (1482)
Ghosts of Dragonspear Castle (1484)
Legacy of the Crystal Shard (1484)
Reclaiming Blingdenstone (1485)
Out of the Abyss (1485)
Dreams of the Red Wizards [Scourge of the Sword Coast and Dead in Thay] (1486)
Confrontation at Candlekeep (1487)
Tyranny of Dragons [Hoard of the Dragon Queen and Rise of Tiamat] (1489)
Icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden (late 1489)
Storm King’s Thunder (1490)
Curse of Strahd (early 1491)
Lost Mine of Phandelver (1491)
Princes of the Apocalypse (1491)
Tomb of Annihilation (late 1491)
Waterdeep [Dragon Heist and Dungeon of the Mad Mage] (1492)
Dragons of Icespire Peak (1492)
Candlekeep Mysteries (1492)
Descent Into Avernus (1494)
Acquisitions Incorporated (1496)
What was the song that you used for the intro ?
What i think would make it interesting is playing related characters and doing some ester eggs with pcs from other advetures, maybe to do something akin to item trading from AL.
I'm in way over my head I dm'd lost mine of phandelver once and now I want to know about all of the 5e adventures
Anyone know what the intro music is?
what about TotYP and Candlekeep Mysteries or are they agnostic timeline events?
They are collections and not full adventures in the forgotten realms
This is a great review of the timeline
Thanks!
i thought Horde of the Dragon Queen happened at the Sametime as Decent into Avernus
i did this about a year ago for my group campaign but I say the lost mine and the hoard run at the same time as in Thundertree you have cultists trying to buy a green dragon to the side of C O D this is how I am running mine anyways both happen to start in 1489 dr
They're trying to recruit the dragon to become a dracolich iirc, which wouldn't really fit with the cult that appears in hoard.
Start with one party and replace members as characters die or leave. Place bets on how long each character will survive.
Acq. Inc. Chapter six mentions that it is 5 years in the future of prince the apocalypse.
What's DND Next? The precursor to 5e?
It was the playtest before 5e was released.
how would you play this all in a single campaing?
i was wondering about timelines pre 5th edition
Did it ever occur to you that whoever wrote the adventures just mentioned stuff from other publications without really thinking about the timeline?
For example, I really don’t think that the writers of ToA thought of the timeline when they put in Volo writing Vgtm, nor that the WD:DH writers thought of the time line of ToA when they mentioned the book...
Not when it's Chris Perkins listed as the story writer and half of his job seems to be being the lore nerd who actually knows what's happened in the world and how all the events line up.
Huh. My group is going from LMoP to Icewind Dale... That kinda screws with the timeline
And for ur game, that can b perfectly ok! Just roll with it & shift some of the dates accordingly (if the ur pc's r super into keeping track) when they come up for continuity sake.
@@Lngbrdninjamasta Very true!
Curse of Icewind Dale only needs to take place in 1489 DR or later so you should be good
I think I forced my games to play differently, but thats ok. Theyre still mostly in the same order, just the times are a bit whacky. I've been playing an entire family of adventurers sequentially starting at ToA, then we jumped to Avernus some 20 years later where I played her daughter and were having waterdeep now running parallel. I like that the books dont really state the times as a solid thing so that I can do whacky things like that. :)
So are the Spelljammer and Planescape reboots not canon?
I think cause these adventurers level pretty quickly you'd have to roll down the xp so you don't reach level 25 by book 4
I think using the ad&d 2nd edition rules set would work good for this. Or the slow progression of pathfinder 1st edition. Alternatively you could just use story mode to level. Bring in some old school rules like the characters have to find time to train to gain levels as well as spend time training and money on that training would make it interesting.
Yea.... this is news only to those who aren’t also a fan and avid reader of the novels. Every chapter of almost every Novel tells you the year and sometimes even the month the events too place in.
That sounded amazing. I love the idea of same PC running through all of most of the adventures.
Nice Forgotten Realms Chronological Order to add an interesting twist to the Published Order. Large enough library to organize play of DnD 5e. So Ghosts of Saltmarsh and Tales is excluded because unofficially Greyhawk-ish and what about the Tales from the Yawning Portal construction of the inn?
Saltmarsh and Yawning Portal are both taken directly from older editions. Therefore, while official 5E versions exist I'd say that the adventures therein would probably predate the 5E timeline. Tales from the Yawning Portal literally contains Against the Giants, which is G1-2-3 from AD&D 1st Edition, and The Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan which is C1. Saltmarsh contains U1-2-3. They are all set in Greyhawk, which also puts them outside the Faerun timeline.
This would have been a useful video for my current module game I’m running... made my own timeline I guess lol
Is this the dnd Snyders cut?
This was awesome random trivia to have.
That'd be a fun idea to have 3-4 people doing the different adventures in order with a few created characters. Perhaps some overlapping and even party swapping?
Would take some DM wrangling to connect them all together, but I'm sure it could be done.
Would be fairly easy if the DM made it a requirement that the PCs are all connected to the main factions (Harpers, Zhents etc) and just have the previous party appear as npcs in future adventures.
What happened to ph is silent ?
It's still silent
I still don't get the 'ph is silent' thing...
nothing really to get, just being weird.