@@sammencia7945 that’s not what I mean exactly, I know it came out in ‘68. I meant the trope of a future where social norms never progressed passed the 60s. Like in the movie, 2001 was neo-60s if that makes sense. I probably used the term wrong but I didn’t know else how to describe it
The Actors, the Performance, the casual pacing, the setting all so grand and perfect. Got to love how Mr. Miller just strolls in at about the right time. It's there in the fine details. 🍷Loved how the protagonist carries himself. He gives of a seasoned executive or official vibe that's almost too real. Classic remarkable acting in the way he treats space travel like a ever day thing.
Raw Engineer: That’s because our current time includes Democrats and Liberals. The future depicted in 2001 A Space Odyssey includes only Conservatives.
In the 1960s with the phenomenal pace of the Apollo project, space stations like this at the turn of the century were to be expected. Wow, how wrong we were?
It's because our politicians decided a pointless war was worth more than the future of humanity. Luckily, after half a century of wasted progress, we are finally touching the stars again
@@precariousworlds3029 Blaming Vietnam is the easy way out - but the REAL boondoggle that ruined the future was Lyndon Johnson's so-called War on Poverty.
@@precariousworlds3029 Yeah. What people don't realize is it's not a matter of technology, but of will/resources. And right now, the cost/return of space flight is basically zero, aside from commercial sats. Hopefully the upcoming American and Chinese missions to the Moon will re-invigorate our interest in space.
@@precariousworlds3029 I'd lay the blame, if blame is needed, at the feet of the American citizens themselves. After Apollo 11 was finished many people had the feeling we had now done what we set out to do and the rest of the Apollo program was fairly perfunctory. We lost interest. Politicians, whether or not they were personally behind the space program, were not about to spend enormous amounts of taxpayer money on a program there was little public support for.
I think Floyd does carry the confidence that the US still had at this point in the 60s. Kubrick and A. C. Clark expected the two superpowers to continue to grow more confident and stronger. Obviously, they expected massive leaps in spacefaring technology that did not occur.
@@stanleysdad Even if it could have been afforded, the desire to do it was not there. The desire to go to the Moon came from the fear that the USSR might get there first. Once we landed on the Moon, public interest in space flight declined.
@@stanleysdad the real issue was that the Soviets gave up. If the Soviets had done a moon landing and moved to established a base then the US would have countered
@@glouconx983That said, we have the moon landings and space race in general to thank for the advanced semiconductors technology that make our present world possible, it was given a massive kick start by the need to lighten the electronics payload sufficiently.
For the most part Kubrick's film has aged remarkably well for a movie made in the 1960s about the 21st century. It mostly doesn't look stupid even today. But I do get a strong 'sixties vibe of the woman in these shots, both as regards her hairdo and something more subtle having to do with her way of talking.
I think part if it is that at this time air travel was still something that mainly rich people did. The space station isn’t going to have common people on it, only people of a higher social and educational class. The stewardesses are there to serve them.
I would say it’s more of a tease to Pink Floyd. She is in pink, he is Floyd. They wanted to do the music for the film but Kubrick couldn’t work with them.
We could build a new space station such as this one, but it would take several nations to be involved in both the cost and construction of the station. But the way things are now it will never happen!
Possible flaw the perfectionist Kubrick didn't address: Women's clothing and hair-styles in the scene with the Russians and elsewhere is basically 60s fashions, while men's business dress did change, they dropped neckties.
What If fashions can return or reboot from time to time. Take the new James Bond, the suit Craig mostly sports even in the posters does looks more or less 60's like.
The lack of carpets anywhere was a remarkable foresight. Because at the time all most everywhere in the 60's and 70's floors where wholly carpeted sometimes even partially for aesthetics. Today its mostly outdated, heavy duty to maintain and unseen as shown rightly in the movie.
Costuming for the future is self-defeating. Once done, whatever was predicted becomes permanently tied to the era in which the prediction was made and by the time that future has arrived the predicted fashion is considered outdated no matter how forward-thinking it was to begin with.
We still have elevator attendants on industrial sites. I even had to take my turn as one of them, as our contract had us looking after several different types of equipment.
I love that neo-60s retro futurism aesthetic that this movie had
It wasn't "neo-60s". It was filmed in 1966. They took mod fashion and made it futuristic.
Thus the mini skirts.
@@sammencia7945 that’s not what I mean exactly, I know it came out in ‘68. I meant the trope of a future where social norms never progressed passed the 60s. Like in the movie, 2001 was neo-60s if that makes sense. I probably used the term wrong but I didn’t know else how to describe it
@@CoolDrifty
Ok got it.
Yes social behaviour was 60s with overlay of 2001 sci-fi tech over it.
It could also foreshadow our obsession with going back to past trends in the modern era.
@@CoolDrifty “it’s rather difficult to define”
The Actors, the Performance, the casual pacing, the setting all so grand and perfect. Got to love how Mr. Miller just strolls in at about the right time. It's there in the fine details. 🍷Loved how the protagonist carries himself. He gives of a seasoned executive or official vibe that's almost too real. Classic remarkable acting in the way he treats space travel like a ever day thing.
First line of the greatest sci-fi film of all time.
This can't be the future, everyone is skinny!
Raw Engineer: That’s because our current time includes Democrats and Liberals. The future depicted in 2001 A Space Odyssey includes only Conservatives.
eugenics...everyone is tall, skinny,intelligent, and good looking
Correction, it’s already the past, 20 years ago by the way.
...and they are reasonably intelligent and speak proper English.
@@highstepperARFis Trump a liberal?
In the 1960s with the phenomenal pace of the Apollo project, space stations like this at the turn of the century were to be expected. Wow, how wrong we were?
It's because our politicians decided a pointless war was worth more than the future of humanity. Luckily, after half a century of wasted progress, we are finally touching the stars again
@@precariousworlds3029 Blaming Vietnam is the easy way out - but the REAL boondoggle that ruined the future was Lyndon Johnson's so-called War on Poverty.
@@precariousworlds3029 Yeah. What people don't realize is it's not a matter of technology, but of will/resources. And right now, the cost/return of space flight is basically zero, aside from commercial sats. Hopefully the upcoming American and Chinese missions to the Moon will re-invigorate our interest in space.
@@precariousworlds3029 I'd lay the blame, if blame is needed, at the feet of the American citizens themselves. After Apollo 11 was finished many people had the feeling we had now done what we set out to do and the rest of the Apollo program was fairly perfunctory. We lost interest. Politicians, whether or not they were personally behind the space program, were not about to spend enormous amounts of taxpayer money on a program there was little public support for.
All space stations should look like this.
It was a trip when the movie switched from a space station floating in space to a shot of the elevator door opening. Very nice.
That voice in the back of my head.... HOLY CRAP THIS WOULD BE EXPENSIVE.
I think Floyd does carry the confidence that the US still had at this point in the 60s. Kubrick and A. C. Clark expected the two superpowers to continue to grow more confident and stronger. Obviously, they expected massive leaps in spacefaring technology that did not occur.
unfortunately
Clarke once said that the US could have afforded space technology like this if they hadn’t spent the money on Vietnam instead
@@stanleysdad Even if it could have been afforded, the desire to do it was not there. The desire to go to the Moon came from the fear that the USSR might get there first. Once we landed on the Moon, public interest in space flight declined.
@@stanleysdad the real issue was that the Soviets gave up. If the Soviets had done a moon landing and moved to established a base then the US would have countered
@@glouconx983That said, we have the moon landings and space race in general to thank for the advanced semiconductors technology that make our present world possible, it was given a massive kick start by the need to lighten the electronics payload sufficiently.
For the most part Kubrick's film has aged remarkably well for a movie made in the 1960s about the 21st century. It mostly doesn't look stupid even today. But I do get a strong 'sixties vibe of the woman in these shots, both as regards her hairdo and something more subtle having to do with her way of talking.
Yes. I agree the movie aged rather well. But the stewardesses would refuse to wear those silly hats LOL ;-) They got that wrong.
I think part if it is that at this time air travel was still something that mainly rich people did. The space station isn’t going to have common people on it, only people of a higher social and educational class. The stewardesses are there to serve them.
He's gonna find out,it was buried deliberately
My all time favorite SF movie.
Deliberately buried.
Deliberately buried.
Deliberately buried
Corporate brands appearing are: IBM on computers, Howard Johnson on the restaurant, and Pepto-Bismol on the dresses.
This is Kubrick's futuristic tribute to "Pinkie" a 1794 oil painting by Thomas Lawrence.
🍷Exquisite..
I would say it’s more of a tease to Pink Floyd. She is in pink, he is Floyd. They wanted to do the music for the film but Kubrick couldn’t work with them.
sorry but where is that paint in this scene?
The scene with the Zero Gravity Toilet was perfect!
This was the first line of the movie.
I've watched this movie dozens of times and that NEVER occured to me. Thanks for the trivia
We could build a new space station such as this one, but it would take several nations to be involved in both the cost and construction of the station. But the way things are now it will never happen!
Nothing has surpassed this!
Classic movie!
Possible flaw the perfectionist Kubrick didn't address: Women's clothing and hair-styles in the scene with the Russians and elsewhere is basically 60s fashions, while men's business dress did change, they dropped neckties.
What If fashions can return or reboot from time to time. Take the new James Bond, the suit Craig mostly sports even in the posters does looks more or less 60's like.
The lack of carpets anywhere was a remarkable foresight. Because at the time all most everywhere in the 60's and 70's floors where wholly carpeted sometimes even partially for aesthetics. Today its mostly outdated, heavy duty to maintain and unseen as shown rightly in the movie.
Costuming for the future is self-defeating. Once done, whatever was predicted becomes permanently tied to the era in which the prediction was made and by the time that future has arrived the predicted fashion is considered outdated no matter how forward-thinking it was to begin with.
Later, Rigsby and Helena think of an epidemic in Clavius, failure to report violates IAS agreements.......
At the top of a space elevator you're in free fall. You can't stroll around like this.
The elevator took Floyd from the central hub to the rim of the wheel, where rotation simulates gravity.
I just learned today that this guy is the same Dr. Floyd from 2010. They didn't event try to recast with a similar looking actor.
cool scene
I'm still waiting for a flying car,c'mon Elon get with the program.
I want Miss Turner’s job!
Elevator attendants in the 21st century? They were on their way out even when this movie came out.
Not in Japan. Still quite widespread here in luxury settings.
It is a space station, she's probably like a flight attendant/customs agent/ and guide for people transitioning from zero G to the space station.
We still have elevator attendants on industrial sites. I even had to take my turn as one of them, as our contract had us looking after several different types of equipment.
Hmm, Mr. Miller would probably have tased him as a "security threat" in our world!
why you post 27 seconds