I am 91 - US Air Force - was stationed on a island off the Korean coast - amazing story - Australian Sea Fury could not get to carrier just off our island - Dead Engine - made a "Dead stick landing on our "curved sand beach ! We got to the plane to see the pilot sitting on the wing "Hello Mates- Got any beer?" He said. We shared some brew- had laughs - he looked like he was about 16 - Plane was put on a barge back to carrier - Amazing Plane - Amazing Pilot !
Imagine a race of savage people, originating mainly in the North East Atlantic, transported as shackled outcast to a natural hell-hole in the South Pacific and they STILL create the BeeGees and win every sport the British invented! No worries!👍
I saw a fury at an airshow probably 25 years ago now and the thing was an absolute beast, coming down in a shallow dive it was whistling and at ground level easily as fast as any of the modern jets so it doesnt surprise me that inexperienced Mig pilots completely underestimated the fury which was probably the pinnacle of piston fighter design and whatever aircraft you are in if you got in the sights of 4 x 20mm cannon you're in big trouble regardless of whether you're past or present, worth a mention as well was one of the ultimate high performance aero piston engines, the Centaurus was a masterpiece, great video
I saw a Sea Fury in flight and on display about 10 years ago on a small flightshow here in Germany. That was a very stunning experience for me. The clean look, the feelable power and, most of all, the sound of the engine was awesome. A great plane
Uncle Peter Sqibb was an engineer on Theseus, he was a rocket expert who worked on the Saunders Roe dual power interceptor. When a Sea fury went U/S in Korea and had to divert to a US airfield with engine trouble he flew out in a Firefly backseat and repaired the plane in a tent in the snow, 60 years later he got a letter from one of the Yanks with a photo of himself working on the engine. Later on he worked with Martin Baker on the cancelled ejection system for the lower deck boys on the Vulcan. Quite a guy.
Theseus..God that takes me back along with the WW2 Illustrious..(still had a couple of dips in her flight deck from Kamikazes)..Used to "pond" with the rain..bit of a twist to her hull as well from all the Stuka near misses (and some that didnt miss)🤣🤣
@@asicXpertI see the resemblance, but the SF is bigger and due to being built for rough carrier use, far sturdier. In person they are freaking tanks….but beautiful, elegant ones😂.
It was based on the Typhoon/Tempest. The wing design was nothing like the FW, but most late radial engine designs converged on a similar overall shape with a bubble canopy.
There is an Airworthy Seafury still flying here in Australia. Formerly owned by Guido Zucolli (rest his sole), it is now owned by his widower and she does indeed fly it. It's amazing to see it in flight and the roar of that engine- beautiful.
In 2019 I saw a Sea Fury in a museum in Cuba. They were proud of how their few Sea Furies had helped protect them against the American Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961. There’s a good Wiki article about it under Sea Fury Cuba.
Yes, I saw one in the museum at the Bay of Pigs. Given the era and the role, the Sea Fury was probably the best attack aircraft in the world for the Cubans and decimated both the landing ships and positions of Brigade 2506.
Museo de la Revolucion in Havana ? That's also the place where they have the remains of a shot down U-2 with a placard identifying it as belonging to the "Fuerza Aerea Norteamericana" (*North American* Air Force) or words to that effect, which as a Canadian I found rather surprising...
As. Cuban it was free Cubans who attempted the landing s it was not an invasion Castro has destroyed my home country people are starving and have lost all they had while the Castros live like millionaires which they are stealing from the Cuban people. People like you who continue to go to Cuba help to continue the enslavement of the Cuban people you should be ashamed of yourself. The so-called invasion failed because democrats like Kennedy refused to help after they promised they would.
My Dad worked on these in the Royal Navy😊 still have his manuals and diagrams for the Sea Fury and Firefly! Great video! (He was in 705 Squadron!) I might have seen him in this video😄
@@michaelsmith8060 They are, there's a lot of "place hold" footage in this video as I'd imagine there isnt a great deal of accessible Fury footage available.
@@michaelsmith8060 If you know the square root of f*ck all Smiffy, it’s best to keep quiet as I’m sure you’ve been told throughout your life (not that it’s stopped you)
RAF and RNAS squadron numbers are normally expressed as individual numbers. For example, 785 Naval Air Squadron would by Royal Navy convention be referred to as "Seven Eight Five Naval Air Squadron." Great work highlighting an absolute monster of a piston engined fighter. Thanks.
About 35 years ago I worked with a gentleman that owned and flew a P51. He also had a Sea Fury in his hangar that he and his son were restoring. Airspeed indicator was in knots.
@@peabase BULL$HIT !!!! P51's are credited with 120 jets destroyed in WW II and most were in the sky dog fights and of course if caught at a base landing or taking off. Plenty of gun camera video here on you tube to verify !!! The Tusgegee air men got 4 in one aerial dog fight defending a bomber attack. 156 of the less that 200 Me262's ever in service were destroyed by prop fighters !!!
There's just something so raw and primal about the sound of piston planes. Jets are amazing machines, with truly stunning performance, but those old prop planes just had a SOUL I guess you could call it. Perhaps its simply that back then pilots actually had to dogfight instead of locking on from miles away and firing a missile, but those birds were true fighters.
One of your better videos! The narrator doesn’t speak so quickly these days so it’s less stressful/more relaxing to listen to. The moving images coordinate with the narration which is great, (unlike the old days). No mispronunciations either. 👍 Well done. Happy New Year! Keep up the higher standards! Very best wishes.
There are actually 17 examples of both Hawker Furies & Sea Furies still flying, 4 of them with the Bristol Centaurus radial engines. This is one of my all time favorite fighter aircraft; and although they were superceded by jet powered fighters, I still prefer the elegance & power of piston-engined aircraft from all countries. I absolutely love going to an air show early in the morning just to hear the engine checks, and I've volunteered many times to assist in pre-flight procedures.
@@spawnof200 I beg to differ, the order from the RAF was cancelled shortly before the end of WWII, and at that time the order from the Royal Navy was halved, but it was not the end of the line for the land-based Fury, it was only delayed. Both Iraq & Pakistan ordered the land-based Fury I models along with several of the two-seat trainer versions in 1946, with Pakistan being the largest foreign operator acquiring close to a total of 100 Fury models based on the second prototype; and a total of 9 two-seat trainers. Egypt bought 12 Furies in the early 1950's. I could go on with countries that bought the land-based Fury models, however I believe that I made my point. The "Fury" might not have seen service in WWII or Korea (unlike the Sea Fury, which had a very distinguished service record, even managing to down several Mig 15's), but it did see service & combat with other countries; in some cases, right up until 1968, just as the North American P-51 Mustang saw service with Argentina until they were retired in 1978.
@@spawnof200 = Then you clearly DON'T know very much about the late Hawker Fury (you're clueless) FYI = your statement of "𝙣𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙜𝙤𝙩 𝙥𝙖𝙨𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙩𝙤𝙩𝙮𝙥𝙚 𝙥𝙝𝙖𝙨𝙚" is complete & utter bollocks Explain to us ALL then, as to "why" the Iraqi A.F used FIFTY-TWO (52) non prototypes operationally ??? Next time mate, do a bit of elementary basic research, before talking bollocks on the internet** ** & thereby embarrassing yourself with your latent lack of knowledge
Great video mate, thank you for sharing it. Something that may be of interest or use to you(?) The Squadron numbers of UK, AUS, NZ, & Canada air arms, are generally said as individual numbers, not 100’s. For example, 845 Squadron would be said as, eight four five, not 8 hundred & forty five squadron👍 Hope that makes sense🙏
Charles Hartman and B. Johnson of VA-25 flying A-1 Skyraiders shot down two Mig 17's in June 1965. I joined this same squadron in November 1966 and people were still talking about these air victories. VA-25 was the last of the Navy Skyraider squadrons receiving the new A-7a jets in 1968.
I actually used to know Commander (as he was then) Carmichael in the late 1980's through to his death in '97 - he was a sound guy. Even back in the late '80's he was a little dismissive of the 'kill' - which since 2018 is in doubt - and said it was a 'team effort'.
I listened to an interview with the pilot who shot the Mig down, it wasn't Hoagy but one of the pilots under his command on that day, however it was a Protocol (Policy ?) of the Fleet Air Arm that the flight leader would get the credit for the kill. The pilot in question was not in the least bit bitter about Hoagy getting the credit, it was the done thing at the time and he was OK with it.
It’s now considered that “smoo” Ellis was the pilot who brought down the MIG not Carmichael. I remember seeing the Sea Fury take part in the air races down in Tasmania, and they were awesome to see and hear.
My neighbor has 2 flying and works on many other ones to get into flyable condition. Love to hear them fire the seafurys and the other war birds that they own or the ones that fly in to visit or get serviced. Nothing sounds the same as the huge roundies going over 440 mph.
On Sep. 10, 1952 Capt. Jesse Folmar flying a Corsair from VMA-312 also joined the select club of pilots who shot down a MIG using a propellar driven aircraft.
Don't forget about the countless ones still flying because of their legacy, either restored properly or for air racing! Dreadnaught, with an R-4360, in 1985 I witnessed doing 452mph at Reno. That engine past away last year with a main road bearing failure, aircraft and pilot survived due to its clean lines, which traded the speed for altitude, and landed safely.
This is one of the best from this channel! Information pretty accurate, and every picture relates to the narration I think. Except at 6.12, where that is not a Sea Fury. Unless it was an in-line engine conversion! Otherwise, very good. Must have listened at last to all the comments!
I'd heard of this story before but this is the first time I've ever heard it in full. I've heard that the pilots who flew them were well pleased with the type.
The only recorded air victory by a Skyraider in the Korean war was in June 1953, when one downed a Soviet built Polikarpov Po-2, which was a biplane - I suppose it could possibly have been a jet powered biplane...
i may be mistaken but i remember reading up on "The Night Witches" the all women Soviet bomber force in WW2 - who flew these Polikarpov Po-2. German fighter ace in ME109 said they were very difficult aircraft to shoot down as their top speed was slower than the 109's stall speed!! so the Germans constantly overflew them-and they could easily outturn the German planes @@chrisaskin6144
I worked in the next office to Carmichael. (at NAS Brawdy UK back in the 50s).. his boss was mine..."Winkle" Brown.. Next office down was one of the Swordfish pilots on the Bismark effort...and the Commander of the Air Station was Cameron VC.(X1 midget subTirpitz...) .In civilian life I worked at a civilian radar unit with the ex Navy piot that hold/held the record for a flight UK/Malta..in a SeaFury.. - Harry Seeks..(not sure if its still his record).
There's an inference (at 7:10 ish) that only US ground troops were involved. Quite a few other countries had troops on the ground too (UK, AUS, NZ, CAN and more) - possibly not quite as soon as the US (I dunno) but definitely there. I got talking to one at remembrance day last year 🙂
Including the South African Airforce (SAAF). Although we rarely get credited with anything from WW1, WW2 and the Korean war: "While equipped with Mustangs, the squadron flew 10 373 sorties and out of a total 95 Mustangs acquired, no fewer than 74 were lost due to enemy action and accidents. Twelve pilots were killed in action, 30 missing and four wounded. In January 1953 the squadron received USAF F-86F Sabre jet fighter-bombers. Pilots and ground crew had to undergo courses in Japan to adapt to the aircraft. The first Sabre mission was flown on 16 March 1953. This marked the entry of the SAAF into a new era of jet warfare. Operating from K-55, the Flying Cheetahs took part in fighter sweeps along the Yalu and Chong-Chong rivers as well as ground targets. The squadron flew a total of 2 032 sorties in the Sabres. Only four Sabres were lost out of 22 supplied. The war ended on 27 July 1953. 34 SAAF pilots had lost their lives and eight taken prisoner of war, including the future Chief of the Air Force, General D Earp. 74 Mustangs and 4 Sabres were lost. Prior to returning to South Africa, the Sabres were returned to the USAF."
OK, "Specification N.7/43 was for a naval interceptor, but the video states that this was combined with "Specification F.2/43," but didn't state what role that was for. I kept rewinding the video trying to make sense of, "Camm decided both...."
There used to one that at EAA in oshkosh. It's been years since I've gone but it was a cool plane! If I am remembering correctly, the plane had smoke dispensers on the wingtip to demonstrate wind vortices on the runway.
Not the only one. F4U corsair shot down another Mig15, P-51, P-47 shot down ME-262. A-1 skyraider shot down 3 mig 17, a B29 shot down 5 mig 15s in Korea, and so on. So it wasn't that uncommon.
Great story. Being a post war prop plane many people (including aviation geeks like me) were unaware of how successful it was and it's long service life. The fact that they were still being used into the 1960s stands as testament to it's prowess
Trivia HMAS Sydney Korean war :-"Sydney began her first patrol of the Korean War on 4 October in the western theatre, transferring four days later to the east coast for special operations on 10/11 October. On 11 October, operating against troop concentrations and suspected store dumps on the east coast, Sydney created a light fleet carrier record by flying 89 sorties, making a total of 147 sorties in two days of operations."
Hawker did build a version of the Tempest with the Centaurus engine, so it was not a great stretch to use that as the basis for the Fury/Sea Fury. Kudos for stating that this interception was one of a relative few cases of a prop fighter taking down a jet fighter. Many times one reads incorrect statements that this was the FIRST (or only) case of this happening. It happened in WWII, Korean War ... AND VIETNAM where the prop aircraft responsible was not even a fighter but a Skyraider attack aircraft!
Interesting to see the Fairey Firefly in a number of those shots. It was originally intended as a two seat reconnaissance fighter but was later used as a ground attack and anti submarine aircraft. The Firefly was reportedly used for ground attack in the Korean War.
...and there is FINALLY a decent 1/48 scale kit of the F-82. How and why the "major players" in the 1/48 scale modeling industry ignored this aircraft for the last 60 or so years is beyond me.
i consider the Sea Fury and the F8F Bear Cat the last of the ww2 prop fighters that, if they'd come just in time for the end of the war, would have out classed anything else in the skies, only thing to come close might have been the Lagg 9
It took many years for it to come out but apparently Carmichael WASNT the pilot who shot the Mig down, it was his wingman, ....... but as Carmichael was the section leader of the sortie naval convention credited HIM as senior officer present with the kill, a fact Carmichael actually admitted many years later .......the guy who DID shoot it down was never mentioned again......such a shame.
Good video, but I have a couple of observations. The first one is that the British used Imperial measurements at that time (and still do in some cases, IE: MPH, not KPH) and the second observation is that you were showing video of Fairy Fulmars of the FAA, but calling them Seafires, which are very different aircraft built by Vickers.
One is still flying in South Africa - saw it at an airshow about 15 years back and that beast was LOUD, made every other prop aircraft around look weak
The Sea Fury and it's land based equivalent the Tempest ii were incredible fast,agile fighters for their time. incidentally, an A-1 skyraider shot down a MiG-17 during the Vietnam conflict.
@@lynnpreuninger5050 One, those were Chinese MiG-15's and they show no losses that day. The Marine Pilot, Jesse Folmar, was shot down by a MiG-15 after he made his claim. Two, a North Korean Yak-9 shot down a USAF F-80 for the first prop vs jet kill in the Korean War, and that is extremely overlooked.
The first WWII allied claim for Me262 to be brought down by "aerial gunfire" (direct fire due to aerial combat - not the ME262 flying into the ground due to pilot error in dogfighting as in some cases or fire from the ground as in AA fire) goes to No 401 Sqn RCAF when on 5th October 1944 12 Spitfires from 401 Sqn performing CAP over Arnhem/Nijmegen area saw an Me262 diving towards Nijmegen at 14.45 hrs. 5 pilots from 401 shot at the Me262 which was observed to crash into the ground. According to his "Encounter Report", Chuck Yeager shot his Me262 down when the type was coming into land a month or so later on 6th November 1944. And you are correct it was a North American P51 Mustang he was flying. IIRC (I can't find the source just now) but the very first Me262 was brought down by a Bofors AA gun belonging to the RAF Regiment. Not such a feat as the "Rocks" were very experienced by this time after shooting down quite a few of the worlds first cruise missile, the V1 flying bomb!
The Typhoon was excellent!! Anything you have to start with a shotgun cartridge is alright in my book!!! Yes, it did have a tendency to go on fire a bit, whilst starting, but hey, fire extinguisher, bucket of sand on stand by, all good!!!
They raced these if I'm not mistaken. There was a guy out of Hamilton Ontario airport that owned Sea Fury in a private collection which he flew quite far distances. I suspect it was sold or perhaps donated to the warplane Heritage Museum at the same airport.
A really interesting vid, but could i make one request? When referring to British (and some Commonwealth nations) could you please take care to pronounce "lieutenant" as "lef-tenant" rather than the French "loo-tenant". The history of this goes back to medieval times but very much continues today. By all means continue to call US, French etc officers "loo-tenant" but I'm sure many Brits, Aussies, Kiwis etc would appreciate you using our pronunciation when talking about our own forces. Thanks.
The Sea Fury represents the peak of this technology, the super-props. There were some fantastic designs around but the jet age kill them all like the dinosaurs they now were. Lots of Spitfire production shots. Large formation of P-51s. Lots of Fairy Fireflies. The RAF cancelled its order because it had enough Spitfires and Tempests. The Hurricane was already obsolete. '1300 metres' is a distance, not a rate of climb. As this was a British aircraft produced in the 1940s all data was in imperial units. The number you want is 4500 ft/min. I'm sure the Sea Fury was designed to take up to 16 3" rockets rather than 12. Incorporation of radar and other novel avionics doesn't make an aircraft smaller, stronger or faster. Bizarre wording. 'The 7-Seventy-Eighth' is an Americanism. In the FAA it's just '778 Sqn' or 'Number 778 Sqn'. So many shots of Firflies!! The aircraft at 5:19 and 10:42 is a Blackburn Firebrand; you must have worked to find those rare clips. The Firebrand was contemporary with the Sea Fury but proved a bit of a dog and few were built. They did not go to Korea. And more Fireflies. I see the rocket load-out has increased to 16. Doesn't Korea look a lot like 1944 Northern France? That would explain the Hawker Typhoon at 8:51. The jet-powered aircraft being destroyed at 9:51 is a V1 Buzz Bomb. No V1s were deployed to Korea. Wikepedia has 8 Sea Furies on display around the world. However, there are also at least 13 still flying, albeit some are somewhat modified in their new role as air racers. They are still competitive. Given the title, I'm surprised you didn't say more about the Mig15 kill. The FAA indeed credited it to Carmichael, who was always slightly reticent about the incident. However, later investigation amongst those involved awarded the victory to his colleague Lt Ellis. I know this channel is all about monetarisation but with a bit more care with the script and someone picking the clips who knows what they are looking at it could be so much better!
Seafury is still fairly fast, while quite a bit slower than the Mig, its still very fast for a prop fighter. It have much lower wingloading, its manufable, and also have much better view than the mig. There never really been a situation where pure speed won the day. Sure if you put a Mig 15 against a Sopwith that might be the case, but when the diffrance in speed is not that huge other factors are still very important
@@lancerevell5979 Well that is of cause true. But it no quite the whole story. While the mig is probobly the better fighter in theory, there is other aspects. Ask the simple question why the British pilot was better. Of cause, he had more others, but why. This is of cause partly down to training doctrine, but also down to that the sea fury is (for a fighter) pretty cheap to fly, the mig, less so. And that kind of boils it down why nato pilot have 200 hours of standard a year, while USSR/Russian pilot got 50. That is quite a large gap. Often its claimed that Russian airplane are cheap to fly. That is only true in vacuum. When considering cost of work its not really true.l
Biplanes in WW2 scored plenty of victories against much faster and more modern fighters, if their pilots were stupid enough to engage in a dogfight. A Gloster Gladiator couldn’t get anywhere near a 109, Mitsubishi Zero or Macci C200s all of whi were much faster - but scored victories against each of these monoplanes when their pilots threw away their speed advantage to get an ‘easy kill’ of a Gladiator- and found the biplane could run rings around them.
I was lucky enough to stand next to one. Didn't want to touch it just pose. Badass. Same with the Corsair, mustang and alot of my favorites the texan was pretty good at aerobatics.
Tell your video editor to turn on auto ducking if they're not going to lower the volume of the background music track. They keep making videos where the 'background' music competes with the narration.
I am 91 - US Air Force - was stationed on a island off the Korean coast -
amazing story - Australian Sea Fury could not get to carrier just off our island - Dead Engine - made a "Dead stick landing on our "curved sand beach ! We got to the plane to see the pilot sitting on the wing "Hello Mates- Got any beer?" He said. We shared some brew- had laughs - he looked like he was about 16 - Plane was put on a barge back to carrier - Amazing Plane - Amazing Pilot !
Thanks for sharing Ivan, great story!
Imagine a race of savage people, originating mainly in the North East Atlantic, transported as shackled outcast to a natural hell-hole in the South Pacific and they STILL create the BeeGees and win every sport the British invented! No worries!👍
Cool story
@@Original50the BeeGees were born in Manchester England, emigrated around 8 yrs of age 🤔
@@danielHogan-yv3hg Hang's around aviation-porn and knows their BeeGees? I'm genuinely humbled. 🙏 So, the choice is Vulcan or Lightning?
I saw a fury at an airshow probably 25 years ago now and the thing was an absolute beast, coming down in a shallow dive it was whistling and at ground level easily as fast as any of the modern jets so it doesnt surprise me that inexperienced Mig pilots completely underestimated the fury which was probably the pinnacle of piston fighter design and whatever aircraft you are in if you got in the sights of 4 x 20mm cannon you're in big trouble regardless of whether you're past or present, worth a mention as well was one of the ultimate high performance aero piston engines, the Centaurus was a masterpiece, great video
Supercharger whine was very noticeable on this aircraft, particularly after the aircraft passed the listener.
I saw a Sea Fury in flight and on display about 10 years ago on a small flightshow here in Germany. That was a very stunning experience for me. The clean look, the feelable power and, most of all, the sound of the engine was awesome. A great plane
From memory it was an unusual sleeve valve engine which also used in the Bristol Freighter. Saw one 1971 Gulf of Carpentaria Queensland Australia
Uncle Peter Sqibb was an engineer on Theseus, he was a rocket expert who worked on the Saunders Roe dual power interceptor. When a Sea fury went U/S in Korea and had to divert to a US airfield with engine trouble he flew out in a Firefly backseat and repaired the plane in a tent in the snow, 60 years later he got a letter from one of the Yanks with a photo of himself working on the engine. Later on he worked with Martin Baker on the cancelled ejection system for the lower deck boys on the Vulcan. Quite a guy.
Theseus..God that takes me back along with the WW2 Illustrious..(still had a couple of dips in her flight deck from Kamikazes)..Used to "pond" with the rain..bit of a twist to her hull as well from all the Stuka near misses (and some that didnt miss)🤣🤣
Sea Fury’s are AWESOME. One of the most handsome/pretty aircraft ever made.
Looks like a Fw 190 tho
@@asicXpert . I can see your Point , and yet No . The FW was considerably smaller too .
@@asicXpertI see the resemblance, but the SF is bigger and due to being built for rough carrier use, far sturdier. In person they are freaking tanks….but beautiful, elegant ones😂.
Durability must be inherent to the design. But yes beautiful at both scales.
And still popular at the Warbird air shows! 😎👍
Beautiful airplane! Clean lines, bubble canopy and loads of lethality!
Reminds me of the FW190.
@@Gorilla_Jonesnot by coincidence. The FW190 was such a good design, several planes of that era took their designs from it
A good engineering idea is always copied. 😎👍
It was based on the Typhoon/Tempest. The wing design was nothing like the FW, but most late radial engine designs converged on a similar overall shape with a bubble canopy.
Sir Sidney Camm at he's finest.
Hawkers design team were world beaters. Legendary stuff. 👊💛👍
There is an Airworthy Seafury still flying here in Australia. Formerly owned by Guido Zucolli (rest his sole), it is now owned by his widower and she does indeed fly it.
It's amazing to see it in flight and the roar of that engine- beautiful.
*soul and widower is usually attributed to men. Women are called widows
Two of those engines were in one of the most beautiful-looking airliners ever built - the Airspeed Ambassador - well, most of the time anyway.
In 2019 I saw a Sea Fury in a museum in Cuba. They were proud of how their few Sea Furies had helped protect them against the American Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961. There’s a good Wiki article about it under Sea Fury Cuba.
Cool story.
Yes, I saw one in the museum at the Bay of Pigs.
Given the era and the role, the Sea Fury was probably the best attack aircraft in the world for the Cubans and decimated both the landing ships and positions of Brigade 2506.
Museo de la Revolucion in Havana ? That's also the place where they have the remains of a shot down U-2 with a placard identifying it as belonging to the "Fuerza Aerea Norteamericana" (*North American* Air Force) or words to that effect, which as a Canadian I found rather surprising...
As. Cuban it was free Cubans who attempted the landing s it was not an invasion Castro has destroyed my home country people are starving and have lost all they had while the Castros live like millionaires which they are stealing from the Cuban people. People like you who continue to go to Cuba help to continue the enslavement of the Cuban people you should be ashamed of yourself. The so-called invasion failed because democrats like Kennedy refused to help after they promised they would.
Did communist Cuba get the Fury from the old Cuban airforce?
My Dad worked on these in the Royal Navy😊 still have his manuals and diagrams for the Sea Fury and Firefly! Great video! (He was in 705 Squadron!) I might have seen him in this video😄
One of the most beautiful aircraft.
Many of the 'Sea Furys' in these clips are actually Fairey Fireflies, which served concurrently in the FAA.
Bullshit
@@michaelsmith8060 They are, there's a lot of "place hold" footage in this video as I'd imagine there isnt a great deal of accessible Fury footage available.
Fury had a radial engine
I think I saw a Bristol Brigand and a Firebrand in there too
@@michaelsmith8060 If you know the square root of f*ck all Smiffy, it’s best to keep quiet as I’m sure you’ve been told throughout your life (not that it’s stopped you)
RAF and RNAS squadron numbers are normally expressed as individual numbers. For example, 785 Naval Air Squadron would by Royal Navy convention be referred to as "Seven Eight Five Naval Air Squadron."
Great work highlighting an absolute monster of a piston engined fighter. Thanks.
I have already beaten that drum, but the Dark SKies people seem not to have listened.
Yep. They’ll read Wikipedia to us all day, but never read anyone else’s comments
It's because the videos are almost entirely done by AI.
I have learned to auto-translate.
It can still cause confusion though, especially if I am speaking to anyone who is not making allowances.
Yip, I’ve told them umpteen times and it’s getting worse @@20chocsaday
About 35 years ago I worked with a gentleman that owned and flew a P51. He also had a Sea Fury in his hangar that he and his son were restoring. Airspeed indicator was in knots.
The P-51 Mustang took down German jets in WWII.
@@xtbum3339 Yeah, when Me-262s came in for landing. When the Germans installed flak along the approach lines, the losses diminished considerably.
@@xtbum3339 And a couple Migs in Korea also !!!
@@peabase BULL$HIT !!!! P51's are credited with 120 jets destroyed in WW II and most were in the sky dog fights and of course if caught at a base landing or taking off. Plenty of gun camera video here on you tube to verify !!! The Tusgegee air men got 4 in one aerial dog fight defending a bomber attack. 156 of the less that 200 Me262's ever in service were destroyed by prop fighters !!!
Of course it was in knots - that's what all aircraft speed instruments measure.
There's just something so raw and primal about the sound of piston planes. Jets are amazing machines, with truly stunning performance, but those old prop planes just had a SOUL I guess you could call it. Perhaps its simply that back then pilots actually had to dogfight instead of locking on from miles away and firing a missile, but those birds were true fighters.
Lovely aircraft and a very honourable successor to the Hurricane, Tempest and Typhoon.
One of your better videos! The narrator doesn’t speak so quickly these days so it’s less stressful/more relaxing to listen to. The moving images coordinate with the narration which is great, (unlike the old days). No mispronunciations either. 👍 Well done. Happy New Year! Keep up the higher standards! Very best wishes.
Probably taking less "Speed" 😅
There are actually 17 examples of both Hawker Furies & Sea Furies still flying, 4 of them with the Bristol Centaurus radial engines. This is one of my all time favorite fighter aircraft; and although they were superceded by jet powered fighters, I still prefer the elegance & power of piston-engined aircraft from all countries.
I absolutely love going to an air show early in the morning just to hear the engine checks, and I've volunteered many times to assist in pre-flight procedures.
both? the hawker fury (the proposed land based variant) never got past the prototype phase
@@spawnof200 Land based aircraft sold to Iraq and Pakistan, as well as the FB60's sold to the Netherlands, were apparently described as Furies.
@@michaelmclachlan1650 huh, i did not know that
@@spawnof200 I beg to differ, the order from the RAF was cancelled shortly before the end of WWII, and at that time the order from the Royal Navy was halved, but it was not the end of the line for the land-based Fury, it was only delayed.
Both Iraq & Pakistan ordered the land-based Fury I models along with several of the two-seat trainer versions in 1946, with Pakistan being the largest foreign operator acquiring close to a total of 100 Fury models based on the second prototype; and a total of 9 two-seat trainers.
Egypt bought 12 Furies in the early 1950's. I could go on with countries that bought the land-based Fury models, however I believe that I made my point.
The "Fury" might not have seen service in WWII or Korea (unlike the Sea Fury, which had a very distinguished service record, even managing to down several Mig 15's), but it did see service & combat with other countries; in some cases, right up until 1968, just as the North American P-51 Mustang saw service with Argentina until they were retired in 1978.
@@spawnof200 = Then you clearly DON'T know very much about the late Hawker Fury (you're clueless)
FYI = your statement of "𝙣𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙧 𝙜𝙤𝙩 𝙥𝙖𝙨𝙩 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙩𝙤𝙩𝙮𝙥𝙚 𝙥𝙝𝙖𝙨𝙚" is complete & utter bollocks
Explain to us ALL then, as to "why" the Iraqi A.F used FIFTY-TWO (52) non prototypes operationally ???
Next time mate, do a bit of elementary basic research, before talking bollocks on the internet**
** & thereby embarrassing yourself with your latent lack of knowledge
Great video mate, thank you for sharing it.
Something that may be of interest or use to you(?)
The Squadron numbers of UK, AUS, NZ, & Canada air arms, are generally said as individual numbers, not 100’s.
For example, 845 Squadron would be said as, eight four five, not 8 hundred & forty five squadron👍 Hope that makes sense🙏
I have already beaten that drum, but the Dark SKies people seem not to have listened.
Robbie Robot - still dim as a Naafi candle. I think I prefer it that way.
Charles Hartman and B. Johnson of VA-25 flying A-1 Skyraiders shot down two Mig 17's in June 1965. I joined this same squadron in November 1966 and people were still talking about these air victories. VA-25 was the last of the Navy Skyraider squadrons receiving the new A-7a jets in 1968.
I actually used to know Commander (as he was then) Carmichael in the late 1980's through to his death in '97 - he was a sound guy. Even back in the late '80's he was a little dismissive of the 'kill' - which since 2018 is in doubt - and said it was a 'team effort'.
I listened to an interview with the pilot who shot the Mig down, it wasn't Hoagy but one of the pilots under his command on that day, however it was a Protocol (Policy ?) of the Fleet Air Arm that the flight leader would get the credit for the kill. The pilot in question was not in the least bit bitter about Hoagy getting the credit, it was the done thing at the time and he was OK with it.
@@number1genoa Quite
Fury's still winning races in Reno up until last year when the races were abandoned...
It’s now considered that “smoo” Ellis was the pilot who brought down the MIG not Carmichael.
I remember seeing the Sea Fury take part in the air races down in Tasmania, and they were awesome to see and hear.
Probably the best video you’ve had yet!..probably the best mass produced piston fighter ever to see service!!..
I sure wish I could get a ride in one. I’d take a ride in any of those old prop planes. Fantastic pieces.
My neighbor has 2 flying and works on many other ones to get into flyable condition. Love to hear them fire the seafurys and the other war birds that they own or the ones that fly in to visit or get serviced. Nothing sounds the same as the huge roundies going over 440 mph.
I love videos like this! And the story and the story telling is amazing!
On Sep. 10, 1952 Capt. Jesse Folmar flying a Corsair from VMA-312 also joined the select club of pilots who shot down a MIG using a propellar driven aircraft.
I witnessed Sea Fury demonstrations at air shows. Impressively fast and nimble.
Same for me at Duxford. The two planes that impressed me the most were the Sea fury and the Bearcat
I would have loved to see those formidable Sea Fury flying around...
Excellent vid. First time seeing the Sea Fury properly. BEAST.
What a beautiful airframe.
Don't forget about the countless ones still flying because of their legacy, either restored properly or for air racing! Dreadnaught, with an R-4360, in 1985 I witnessed doing 452mph at Reno. That engine past away last year with a main road bearing failure, aircraft and pilot survived due to its clean lines, which traded the speed for altitude, and landed safely.
I don't know how many are in museums, but there are 19 Sea Furies that are air worthy in the world right now and four more that are under restoration.
This is one of the best from this channel! Information pretty accurate, and every picture relates to the narration I think. Except at 6.12, where that is not a Sea Fury. Unless it was an in-line engine conversion! Otherwise, very good. Must have listened at last to all the comments!
That was a Firefly, they operated alongside the Sea Fury in the ground attack role from Royal Navy carriers at the time.
@@mrjockt Thought it might be, but wasn't sure. But defo not a Sea Fury!
The Seafury was the ultimate in piston driven prop aircraft.
I'd heard of this story before but this is the first time I've ever heard it in full. I've heard that the pilots who flew them were well pleased with the type.
Next to the A-1 Skyraider, this is one of the coolest airplanes ever.
2 Mig 17's were shot down by Skyraiders during the Korean war
The only recorded air victory by a Skyraider in the Korean war was in June 1953, when one downed a Soviet built Polikarpov Po-2, which was a biplane - I suppose it could possibly have been a jet powered biplane...
@@Snake-ms7sj I think you meant to say the Vietnam war. The Mig-17 wasn't created until after the Korean conflict.
i may be mistaken but i remember reading up on "The Night Witches" the all women Soviet bomber force in WW2 - who flew these Polikarpov Po-2. German fighter ace in ME109 said they were very difficult aircraft to shoot down as their top speed was slower than the 109's stall speed!! so the Germans constantly overflew them-and they could easily outturn the German planes @@chrisaskin6144
@@keithallver2450 My bad you are right. Korean war was Mig-15
Great video,such an incredible aircraft 👌😀👍
The things you learn on youtube, fantastic.
I worked in the next office to Carmichael. (at NAS Brawdy UK back in the 50s).. his boss was mine..."Winkle" Brown.. Next office down was one of the Swordfish pilots on the Bismark effort...and the Commander of the Air Station was Cameron VC.(X1 midget subTirpitz...)
.In civilian life I worked at a civilian radar unit with the ex Navy piot that hold/held the record for a flight UK/Malta..in a SeaFury.. - Harry Seeks..(not sure if its still his record).
And you met these heroes. I am frankly envious.
Thank you. Enjoyed this. 👍🏻
There's an inference (at 7:10 ish) that only US ground troops were involved. Quite a few other countries had troops on the ground too (UK, AUS, NZ, CAN and more) - possibly not quite as soon as the US (I dunno) but definitely there. I got talking to one at remembrance day last year 🙂
Including the South African Airforce (SAAF). Although we rarely get credited with anything from WW1, WW2 and the Korean war:
"While equipped with Mustangs, the squadron flew 10 373 sorties and out of a total 95 Mustangs acquired, no fewer than 74 were lost due to enemy action and accidents. Twelve pilots were killed in action, 30 missing and four wounded.
In January 1953 the squadron received USAF F-86F Sabre jet fighter-bombers. Pilots and ground crew had to undergo courses in Japan to adapt to the aircraft. The first Sabre mission was flown on 16 March 1953. This marked the entry of the SAAF into a new era of jet warfare. Operating from K-55, the Flying Cheetahs took part in fighter sweeps along the Yalu and Chong-Chong rivers as well as ground targets. The squadron flew a total of 2 032 sorties in the Sabres. Only four Sabres were lost out of 22 supplied.
The war ended on 27 July 1953. 34 SAAF pilots had lost their lives and eight taken prisoner of war, including the future Chief of the Air Force, General D Earp. 74 Mustangs and 4 Sabres were lost. Prior to returning to South Africa, the Sabres were returned to the USAF."
Micheal Caine was in the Korean War......Not a lot of people know that....
@@brianperry The second movie that Michael Caine was in was ''A Hill in Korea'' made only four years after Caine had served in Korea.
@@mrjockt
The scene of the attack by the F-84 Thunderjets was amazingly done !
AT 10:43, YOU ARE SHOWING A BLACKBURN “FIREBRAND” , NOT A “SEA FURY”.!!!
OK, "Specification N.7/43 was for a naval interceptor, but the video states that this was combined with "Specification F.2/43," but didn't state what role that was for. I kept rewinding the video trying to make sense of, "Camm decided both...."
Another great video on an aircraft that I didn't know had such a distinguished career.
I came for the seafury. I stayed for the soundtrack.
...great post, our Mark!...
There used to one that at EAA in oshkosh. It's been years since I've gone but it was a cool plane! If I am remembering correctly, the plane had smoke dispensers on the wingtip to demonstrate wind vortices on the runway.
One of the best ever built piston-engined Propeller Fighters!!!😎👍
Not the only one. F4U corsair shot down another Mig15, P-51, P-47 shot down ME-262. A-1 skyraider shot down 3 mig 17, a B29 shot down 5 mig 15s in Korea, and so on. So it wasn't that uncommon.
An ex flight instructor of mine used 4:25 to fly one of these warbirds at airshows. The pinnacle of piston engined fighters.
Sometimes, I'll watch these at 1.25× Playback Speed, to relieve the old _Dark_ channel days! 😊
Great story. Being a post war prop plane many people (including aviation geeks like me) were unaware of how successful it was and it's long service life. The fact that they were still being used into the 1960s stands as testament to it's prowess
Trivia HMAS Sydney Korean war :-"Sydney began her first patrol of the Korean War on 4 October in the western theatre, transferring four days later to the east coast for special operations on 10/11 October. On 11 October, operating against troop concentrations and suspected store dumps on the east coast, Sydney created a light fleet carrier record by flying 89 sorties, making a total of 147 sorties in two days of operations."
Hawker did build a version of the Tempest with the Centaurus engine, so it was not a great stretch to use that as the basis for the Fury/Sea Fury. Kudos for stating that this interception was one of a relative few cases of a prop fighter taking down a jet fighter. Many times one reads incorrect statements that this was the FIRST (or only) case of this happening. It happened in WWII, Korean War ... AND VIETNAM where the prop aircraft responsible was not even a fighter but a Skyraider attack aircraft!
More than 150 Me-262 German jet fighters were shot down by Allied piston-engined fighters during WW2, the majority by P-51 Mustangs.
Nice video, nicely informative, thank you.
Interesting to see the Fairey Firefly in a number of those shots. It was originally intended as a two seat reconnaissance fighter but was later used as a ground attack and anti submarine aircraft. The Firefly was reportedly used for ground attack in the Korean War.
Just mention: also we know a similar case when La-11 droped down F-86 Sabre during Korea War in 1951.
A wonderful sound and a wonderful aircraft
The F4U got a MiG in Korea also.
I remember walking the Dorset clifftops in 1959 and one seemingly dive down on me. I guess it was still a service a/c.
Quite possibly one of the aircraft belonging to the Fleet Requirements Unit based at Hurn Airport.
Great aircraft. Service trajectory sounds similar to the F4U in the USN. Thank you for highlighting this excellent warbirds!
The Sea Fury was a 3-4 year newer design than the F4U. Both performed the same mission in Korea.
An F4U-5N piloted by Capt. Jesse Folmar shot down a Mig 15 on Sept. 10, 1952😁
I thought he was flying and F4U-4.
Well done again.
How have I never heard of this plane I thought I heard of it I thought I knew about every plane in World War II great video👍
In my opinion, it was the best piston-powered fighter ever produced. By the way, an F-82 "Twin Mustang" also shot down a MiG-15.
...and there is FINALLY a decent 1/48 scale kit of the F-82. How and why the "major players" in the 1/48 scale modeling industry ignored this aircraft for the last 60 or so years is beyond me.
As ever with Dark Skies productions, there are all manner of extraneous aircraft shown in the clips, including a Fairey Firebrand!
Another propeller driven aircraft that downed a MiG 15 was a Vought F4U Corsair flown by USMC Capt. Jesse Folmar.
Nice video! Between 2:22 and 6:55 you are playing a pretty cool background music. What´s its title?
i consider the Sea Fury and the F8F Bear Cat the last of the ww2 prop fighters that, if they'd come just in time for the end of the war, would have out classed anything else in the skies, only thing to come close might have been the Lagg 9
The F4U-5 was its equal.
Wow I did not know they flew up against Jet fighters. They worked well with American planes too thank you.
Little late for WW2. But a stunning war machine. Reminds me of the Bearcat who was also late but a equally stunning aircraft.
There are way more than half a dozen still around. There is more than that still flyable
During WWII, Tuskegee Airman shot down early German fighter jets with the P51 Mustang.
What an aircraft, awesome.
Seafury is probably the best piston engine fighter of all time
Except for the Bearcat!
It took many years for it to come out but apparently Carmichael WASNT the pilot who shot the Mig down, it was his wingman, ....... but as Carmichael was the section leader of the sortie naval convention credited HIM as senior officer present with the kill, a fact Carmichael actually admitted many years later .......the guy who DID shoot it down was never mentioned again......such a shame.
For 1 aircraft to hold such an amazing record for the amount being built during conflict(s), I'm Very amazed this bird is not hold a world record.
US Navy Skyraider downed a MiG in Vietnam
I wonder if the cockpit was pressurised for the high altitude ? Thanks a lot, great history.
To think if the Tempest II made it to the front line in early 44, wouldve been a clean sweep!
Good video, but I have a couple of observations. The first one is that the British used Imperial measurements at that time (and still do in some cases, IE: MPH, not KPH) and the second observation is that you were showing video of Fairy Fulmars of the FAA, but calling them Seafires, which are very different aircraft built by Vickers.
One is still flying in South Africa - saw it at an airshow about 15 years back and that beast was LOUD, made every other prop aircraft around look weak
Beautiful aircraft!
The Sea Fury and it's land based equivalent the Tempest ii were incredible fast,agile fighters for their time. incidentally, an A-1 skyraider shot down a MiG-17 during the Vietnam conflict.
No, A-1's claimed two MiG-17's in Vietnam. An OV-1 Mohawk has a confirmed probable kill over a MiG-17 in Vietnam as well.
The F4U Corsair got a Mig in Korea, it’s over looked.
@@lynnpreuninger5050 One, those were Chinese MiG-15's and they show no losses that day. The Marine Pilot, Jesse Folmar, was shot down by a MiG-15 after he made his claim. Two, a North Korean Yak-9 shot down a USAF F-80 for the first prop vs jet kill in the Korean War, and that is extremely overlooked.
@@rElliot09 still prop killing a jet
A-1s shot down their MIGs head to head in one pass. No dog fight.
One of the hottest things ever to ride on pistons and a prop. Lovely beast.
Its American in cool and its class. Gorgeous!
It's British.
@@ColinBarrett001 I was needling you guys. I would love to see it racing. Cheers!
Chuck Yeager was the first pilot to shoot down a ME-262. He was in a P-51 Mustang.
When it was landing.
The first WWII allied claim for Me262 to be brought down by "aerial gunfire" (direct fire due to aerial combat - not the ME262 flying into the ground due to pilot error in dogfighting as in some cases or fire from the ground as in AA fire) goes to No 401 Sqn RCAF when on 5th October 1944 12 Spitfires from 401 Sqn performing CAP over Arnhem/Nijmegen area saw an Me262 diving towards Nijmegen at 14.45 hrs. 5 pilots from 401 shot at the Me262 which was observed to crash into the ground.
According to his "Encounter Report", Chuck Yeager shot his Me262 down when the type was coming into land a month or so later on 6th November 1944. And you are correct it was a North American P51 Mustang he was flying.
IIRC (I can't find the source just now) but the very first Me262 was brought down by a Bofors AA gun belonging to the RAF Regiment. Not such a feat as the "Rocks" were very experienced by this time after shooting down quite a few of the worlds first cruise missile, the V1 flying bomb!
Hawker =manufacturer of best aircrafts !
If that was true? they would still be around
@@sandervanderkammen9230Clearly not true. They were the victim of government interference and incompetence.
What a Beauty
The Typhoon was excellent!! Anything you have to start with a shotgun cartridge is alright in my book!!! Yes, it did have a tendency to go on fire a bit, whilst starting, but hey, fire extinguisher, bucket of sand on stand by, all good!!!
FYI:L a loo-tenant is someone who rents your out-house; a lef-tenant is a commissioned officer.
😂😂😂 I guess it's a Robot that's doing the talking, with that breathless delivery style.
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Not when ur talkin freedom language 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
It's "loo-tenant" here in the USA. And we don't put that silly second 'i' in "aluminum". 😊
I love how the country that has historically hated the French defends pronunciations derived from French words so much.😂😂😂
They raced these if I'm not mistaken. There was a guy out of Hamilton Ontario airport that owned Sea Fury in a private collection which he flew quite far distances. I suspect it was sold or perhaps donated to the warplane Heritage Museum at the same airport.
He owned a Baghdad fury, purchased by the Saudis and modified to operate in desert conditions.
A really interesting vid, but could i make one request? When referring to British (and some Commonwealth nations) could you please take care to pronounce "lieutenant" as "lef-tenant" rather than the French "loo-tenant". The history of this goes back to medieval times but very much continues today. By all means continue to call US, French etc officers "loo-tenant" but I'm sure many Brits, Aussies, Kiwis etc would appreciate you using our pronunciation when talking about our own forces. Thanks.
He's American, what do you expect?
They ARE American you know🤣
Good plane n the training made the difference
The Sea Fury represents the peak of this technology, the super-props. There were some fantastic designs around but the jet age kill them all like the dinosaurs they now were.
Lots of Spitfire production shots.
Large formation of P-51s.
Lots of Fairy Fireflies.
The RAF cancelled its order because it had enough Spitfires and Tempests. The Hurricane was already obsolete.
'1300 metres' is a distance, not a rate of climb. As this was a British aircraft produced in the 1940s all data was in imperial units. The number you want is 4500 ft/min.
I'm sure the Sea Fury was designed to take up to 16 3" rockets rather than 12.
Incorporation of radar and other novel avionics doesn't make an aircraft smaller, stronger or faster. Bizarre wording.
'The 7-Seventy-Eighth' is an Americanism. In the FAA it's just '778 Sqn' or 'Number 778 Sqn'.
So many shots of Firflies!!
The aircraft at 5:19 and 10:42 is a Blackburn Firebrand; you must have worked to find those rare clips. The Firebrand was contemporary with the Sea Fury but proved a bit of a dog and few were built. They did not go to Korea.
And more Fireflies.
I see the rocket load-out has increased to 16.
Doesn't Korea look a lot like 1944 Northern France? That would explain the Hawker Typhoon at 8:51.
The jet-powered aircraft being destroyed at 9:51 is a V1 Buzz Bomb. No V1s were deployed to Korea.
Wikepedia has 8 Sea Furies on display around the world. However, there are also at least 13 still flying, albeit some are somewhat modified in their new role as air racers. They are still competitive.
Given the title, I'm surprised you didn't say more about the Mig15 kill. The FAA indeed credited it to Carmichael, who was always slightly reticent about the incident. However, later investigation amongst those involved awarded the victory to his colleague Lt Ellis.
I know this channel is all about monetarisation but with a bit more care with the script and someone picking the clips who knows what they are looking at it could be so much better!
Had it been ready earlier,it would have been a good match for the FW190.
Seafury is still fairly fast, while quite a bit slower than the Mig, its still very fast for a prop fighter. It have much lower wingloading, its manufable, and also have much better view than the mig.
There never really been a situation where pure speed won the day. Sure if you put a Mig 15 against a Sopwith that might be the case, but when the diffrance in speed is not that huge other factors are still very important
As was said once in a rather cheesy movie, "It's the man, not the machine!" The British pilot was the better, and won the day. 😊
@@lancerevell5979 Well that is of cause true. But it no quite the whole story.
While the mig is probobly the better fighter in theory, there is other aspects.
Ask the simple question why the British pilot was better. Of cause, he had more others, but why.
This is of cause partly down to training doctrine, but also down to that the sea fury is (for a fighter) pretty cheap to fly, the mig, less so.
And that kind of boils it down why nato pilot have 200 hours of standard a year, while USSR/Russian pilot got 50. That is quite a large gap.
Often its claimed that Russian airplane are cheap to fly. That is only true in vacuum. When considering cost of work its not really true.l
"manufable"?
"diffrance"?
What are these neologisms?
manouverable for manufable. difference for diffrance.
Biplanes in WW2 scored plenty of victories against much faster and more modern fighters, if their pilots were stupid enough to engage in a dogfight. A Gloster Gladiator couldn’t get anywhere near a 109, Mitsubishi Zero or Macci C200s all of whi were much faster - but scored victories against each of these monoplanes when their pilots threw away their speed advantage to get an ‘easy kill’ of a Gladiator- and found the biplane could run rings around them.
I was lucky enough to stand next to one. Didn't want to touch it just pose. Badass. Same with the Corsair, mustang and alot of my favorites the texan was pretty good at aerobatics.
Tell your video editor to turn on auto ducking if they're not going to lower the volume of the background music track. They keep making videos where the 'background' music competes with the narration.