You may have noticed that in certain shots the GTO has a red pinstripe, and other times not. This is because the drag race was filmed last year, and the B roll filmed this year. The owner put the red stripe on in between those times.
My dad was a Plymouth guy, bought a 64 Sport Fury brand new with a 426 wedge in it, sold it a year before I was born in 69. Then in 2012 he bought a 70 AAR Cuda clone built on a 73 Cuda. Then in 2015 he found the twin to his 426 Sport Fury and bought that. In 2017 he bought a 36 Plymouth business coupe street rod. He had Mopar on the brain, with a Plymouth bent. He left me the eye searing green Cuda when he passed earlier this year, my siblings got the rest of the vehicles he had. You should not go robbing a bank while driving that Cuda. I am a hardcore Pontiac man, four GTOs, four Trans Ams, six Formulas, six LeMans/Tempests, a Ventura, and more. I absolutely adore the Pontiac V8, so easy and cheap to make them haul ass, plus nobody other than Pontiac guys can tell a 326 from a 455 or a 540 built on an aftermarket block. So dad and I both own(ed) and are(were) fans of the orphans.
@@fast03vette4me I really like the Olds engine, the 403 is one of my favorites, decent power and surprisingly good mileage. I am not too broken up about losing Pontiac and Olds though, they stopped building the good engines and replaced them with the orange lumps 40 years ago. Olds and Pontiac died in 1979. At least we can still find them out in the wild.
I bought my 1969 GTX from the first owner when it was 1& 1/2 years old. The Owner had installed a Carter Competition AFB, AC, power steering, power brakes, torque flight & 3.23 posi. Wonderful car. I also had a 1968 440 Charger RT, 1970 440 Challenger RT/SE and 1972 340 Challenger.
@@bradconway6111 Hi. All of them had a console shifter, AC, power steering and power brakes. Oddly, they all were green except the 72 which was brown. They all ran and operated perfectly. The GTX was my favourite. That's the one that I wish that I still had. I also had a 1968 Dodge Coronet station wagon with a factory 383 in it. MOPAR guy
I noticed that the Goat ran the fastest time of 13.45, which was never seen again by either car...and it had extra weight almost equivalent to having Rosie O'Donnell on board...with a smaller engine...with less HP/TQ, etc.!
GTX had less than performance gearing...3:23 rear end to get some gas mileage. Just think what would have happened if it had the same gears as the pontiac.
3:45 That was one of the best toots ever while announcing the weight of the GTO. Literally could write a song and that would take the place of the lead guitar.
I would like to say one I love your sense of humor. Started cracking right up right from the get. Secondly I found it very educational I like your style of giving the history of both cars. Thank you. Killed me with new kids on the block!!😂😂
Man watching this was really exciting. I grew up in Nashville TN when Darrel Waltrip and others were racing, we would walk around the corner to the Fairgrounds and watch the races at the Speedway. Thanks for this video.
Sad both companies are gone now. I am a Pontiac fan. The GTO Judge (orange) is my dream car. I will never live long enough to have one BUT... we can all dream
My grandmother bought my uncle a new 1968 Plymouth GTX for helping her with the farm after he graduated high school that year. My grandfather had died in 1966. It was silver with a dark vinyl top. It had a 440 Commando 4 barrel carb, auto transmission.
I owned and ran the crap out of nearly every Mopar from a 68 Coronet R/T built 440 to a 70 R/T 440 six pack Charger. Loved them all and still do. But damn, I was messing around on street tires practicing 0-60 runs and did an 1/8 mile for fun. I coasted to a 13 second 1/4 mile. The factory has returned to the good old days. Of course there are more bells and whistles. Just like between a 36 Chevy and a 70 R/T Charger. We just need to accept it and love the new horsepower wars.
Nice twist to add Bub Lindemann to your video. I remember watching Bud on Car and Track when it was new. He died young at 58. Not surprising since he always that pack of cigs in his shirt pocket.
Absolutely, you think we're gonna catch him in a dog pie chevy, takes a mopar to catch a mopar. Maybe the best line ever in a movie ! At least for us mopar nuts. For those of you unfamiliar, it's from Vanishing Point, 1970. A 68 Charger chasing a 70 Challenger!!!
@@donjennings9034I think it is more impressive to see these cars run good times with highway gearing. Back in the day cars like the GTX were your everyday transportation. Not many people were going to have 4.11s or 4.56s in their everyday driver. Plus a car like this would top 140mph with 3.23 gears.
Two beautiful cars . The iconic Pontiac GTO, and Plymouths philosophical clone of the GTO. The GTX. It was clear the GTO is making some serious horsepower as indicated by the trap speed in the first round. The GTX demonstrated the torque is king with some really impressive E Ts while running 3.23 gears. Good match up. Both cars are well tuned. The GTO was clearly off its game in round 2 and 3.
Yeah I was a bit surprised, given the gear ratios, that the GTO didn't do better out of the hole. I was also surprised that the GTX didn't have the higher trap speed, with those long legs.
Goodday C & Z, Love the GTX, which you called a coupe 😢. Anyway Mopar or no car. Only 10 Ibs of torque less than a Hemi. Great times from both muscle cars, love the Body lines on those B Bodies. Your number 1 Fan in Australia Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
@@gregbrooks3577 I want to 428 or 455 Pontiac (400- 500 hp, Slightly tuned with EFI In my 1980 Grand Prix. Grand National Rear end and Beefed up 200r4 Transmission.
My neighbor found a '66 charger with a 383 also. Love the styling and the 383! I remember my Dad looking for a new car in 1966 ( he was a dodge guy) and seeing a new charger on the show room floor. We couldn't talk him into buying it, but my brother and me sure tried!!
Not sure what the GTX owner did between rounds 2 and 3 but he picked up over 3 mph over his first two runs. According to the calculators it takes about 25HP for a 3800 pound car to pick up 3 MPH in the 1/4 mile. Hidden nitrous bottle? 🤣
If they had time between rounds he probably did some timing & jetting adjustments which are easy to do on the Mopar big blocks being the distributor is in the front & changing jets on the old carter AFB were quick & easy as well .
Yes, I wonder what the GTX would have done with the 3:54 gears in the 9¾ Dana 60 rear-end. My neighbor traded his '68 Corvette with a 427 for a '68 GTX with a 426 Hemi because the GTX was faster. I have salivated over that model car ever since...
Mopars may be fast but in this round the GTX never touched the GTOs 13.45 e.t. I have gained respect for GM small block 400. In Chevy and Pontiac. I have 1 in my 76 Laguna.
@@ScarlettFire341 no it ain't. Pontiac NEVER made a big block or small block. They used the SAME block for all their engines.. Back in those days. But research it. You'll see.
@@Shannon102611 you be right - thx ! Pontiac’s engine program took a different route however as they do not have a small- and big- block, but one engine architecture. Introduced in 1955, like Chevy’s small-block, the “Strato-Streak” displaced 287-ci and made 180 hp with a two-barrel carburetor, and 200 hp with a four-barrel carburetor. Over time, this engine grew all the way up to 455ci by the late 1960s without any changes to its external dimensions. Thus, Pontiac only has a single V-8 block as it was more than capable of competing with Chevrolet’s entire lineup.
had a 68 gtx 383 six pack vetical gate 4 speed did 148 mph none of my freinds would ride in that car also had three darts @ the same time 68 340 six pack blk/blk vertical gate four speed a fast and fun driver gtx was kinda a train off the track in the curves even wit both hands on wheel lubbed the vid thanks fo sharin scooter d p.s. i love anything 68
Hey RONALD back then I could buy 2 cheeseburgers + FRIES + soda and still get 16 cents back, enough for more. But now $2.19 for JUST your soft greasy little bag of fries SUCKS! And a cheeseburger for $1.79 each now. The meat patty is thinner than the pickle! WTF CLOWN!
I couldn’t really see what was going on when they both launched but I can promise you that with these cars being as close as they are..... fists would’ve been thrown before money was paid. I saw this movie a hundred times on Gratiot and Woodward in the early seventies.
You could never find either of these cars that cheap on the car lots. You had to factory order one to get one at those low prices. I turned 19 the summer of ‘68 !!!
Even though the GTX won 2 of 3 races, the GTO had the best time at 13.45 and the best MPH at 101.79 This indicates to me the GTO is a bit faster the rest is just driver error or the driver not getting a good start!
I have doubts on the GTX running a 3:23 gear. I’m with you on the first run of the GTO: being faster: It.doesn’t make sense & doesn’t look like wheel spin or the trap speed would likely be up from the first run….. unless he is out of gear in the traps,
If you wanted a "sealed deal" type race, you should've replaced the GTX with a Roadrunner from that era... RRs were bare-boned emphasis on drivetrain with all of the gingerbread removed (console, bucket seats, sport steering wheel, radio/8track, a/c, etc) for weight reduction, and were strictly 4 on the floor with a nice rear-end ratio...Roadrunners in 68 and 69 were degraded cars meant for modifications or bare-boned racing on the track or strip, while you went for the GTX for all the "goodies"... Trim and gingerbread package options didn't appear on the RR until 1971, when the car utilized a Satellite body, and the Belvidere body had been discontinued in 1970... The GTX had only one final year in 71 with a Satellite body, in which the gingerbread was standard, along with the 383 magnum as standard, with the 440 as an option...
Road Runner's even early one's could be optioned as pig's too, and GTX's were never available with 383 from the factory, and always shared the satellite body.
@@kimmorrison9169 didn't all 68-69 GTO,s have Ram Air ? And the Ram Air IV is a totally different beast than a Ram Air III quite a bit different engine parts Cam, Heads, Intake, and what not.
All the talk here about the GTX being the faster car seems to neglect the fact that the GTO ran the quickest time and fastest trap speed. With a 200 lbs weight disadvantage to boot. Pontiac's are fast, even with gm trying to give all the better parts to chev.
You had 3 races and lost 2....other side of the coin would be you got lucky once...or with the GTX , the best was yet to come. I like both cars, but not excuses. The Pontiac lost, get over it! 😆
In 1969 i totaled my 64 GTO , took the $ 900.00 the insurance company gave me and ran with my fiancee to Roth Pontiac in Toledo Ohio where i purchased a.............baby blue LeMans ? Arrggghhhh !
Just pointing out you don't necessarily need 4.10 gears to run quick times....they should match your engines powerband. Doubtful many of these cars are running a 60's spec cam or stock stall converter.....why would they? Nobodys tearing down their engine to check....lol It's just for fun / bragging rights.
@@TheJMan1K I know I had a 1969 dodge coronet super bee hemi and I thought I was hot shit back then now I’ve had a dodge challenger hellcat redeye they could probably beat that car in going in reverse LOL
@@hellraiserx9490 That is exactly what I was thinking. I had a 68' GTO with a bigger cam and bigger carb with 373 gears and a turbo 400 slap stick tranny... thought it was pretty bad ass. Today I have a 2017 Charger Hellcat. My guess is, the Hellcat would leave my old GTO in the dust by 20 cars or so!
Well the GTO has 3.9-1 drag gears and the GTX has a normal street rear end ,there is a big advantage there .The GTO would be a pretty terrible street car with a TH400 3 speed
Damn, Do I love watching this videos. Even better that you always have some of my favorite movies thrown in for some always welcoming crude sexual humor. Keep on motorboating! 🚗 🚢
Awesome cars! Always love the GTO's no matter what year but any old Mopar is cool in my book too. Anyone else notice in the first race from half to two thirds track on the GTX made the GTO look like it was tied to a stump. You think he let off?
Pontiacs aren't known for high rpm engines most low end torque . I knew guys who had them & tried to over rev them & it usually ended up not good with blown head gaskets & I have seen harmonic balancers break the crank shaft stub off of the crank where it bolts on & I have seen on my fathers 69 Pontiac Grand Prix 400 the harmonic balancer busted off .
@@peteloomis8456 HAD AN L78 69 CHEVELLE AND THAT THING COULD GET PUSHED TO 7000 NO PROBLEM .... THE POWER MAY HAVE DROPPED OFF WAY BEFORE THAT BUT YOU COULD DO IT ....
@@peteloomis8456 My buddy had a ram air 4 400 in his 67 GTO, and the kid couldn't drive it for shit. Always revving it to 7000 when the tires broke loose. He couldn't pedal a burnout for shit. Never blew it up though.
@Domino YOU KNOW WHEN IT ALL COMES DOWN TO ONE THING!!!!! THE LOVE FOR A PARTICULAR CAR AND THE JOY OF JUST DRIVING IT ON AN OPEN ROAD WITH NO ONE AROUND !!!!!
It would have had a thrown rod at 6300 rpms!!! The 068 cam in the Ram Air 3 had 212/225 duration at .050 and around .407 valve lift. Combine that with the small port factory heads (#48's) and the engines nose dive after about 5200 rpms. An L78 Chevelle running a mechanical cam and huge rectangular port heads could breathe even through the crappy exhaust manifolds. Pontiac had low and midrange power and it worked very well. I'm betting with a taller gear like a 3.73 or 3.55 this car would run just as quick and probably faster trap speeds.
I'm not a MoPar guy but I can't stand it when someone calls a GTX a "Get-X" like that old time spokesman the short film clip. To me it's like putting ketchup on a hotdog. Just curious. Do you MoPar fans cringe when you hear "Get-X" yes or no???
My old ramir 1v. Was a rpm screamer 6750 limiter Pontiac could out run the 375 hp 396 every day. Ratted at 366 hp. With 0val port heads. Or the firebird trans am. Ram air 5.
Ah Geez.... the 400 equipped Goat doesn't stand a chance. Been there did this on the street throughout the 1970's.....the "porky" 400 Goats just weren't competitive outa the hole equipped with the Automatics.... where most street races were won and lost in the first 100 feet. Now substitute the 455 in the GTO(Get Tools Out) and the Loser role would be reversed onto the rattelite GTX
I respectfully disagree sir.. I owned a 1968 GTO 400ci Ram Air, 373gears Hurst (His&Hers) Duel Gate shifter. And "on the street" I used to eat um up!! Not sure what it was but that lil 68 GTO was a killer. It drug cars that it should have never beat. My best buddy had a 69 Judge and I whipped his ass every time. We even swapped cars a couple times & my 68 won almost every time. It was the craziest thing. I could uncap the headers & it ran consistently in the low 13s hi 12s. I did have a wider tire on it. Maybe a 60 .
Obviously you ain't never daily drove one and run the lips off of it. Them junk GM rear difs and garbage coil springs. Them GM cars were designed to ride nice not to be flogged.
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You may have noticed that in certain shots the GTO has a red pinstripe, and other times not. This is because the drag race was filmed last year, and the B roll filmed this year. The owner put the red stripe on in between those times.
I almost went this year to mid Michigan but I couldn’t get a straight answer if they were going to be open or not due to the coof
@Cars And Zebras. You keep saying "pounds feet of torque". " It's "foot pounds of torque." You're welcome.
@trickdodge Will the Mustang II weigh the same with a 302 than it will with a 5.4L or whatever engine you quoted at 370 hp?
I don't think so.
So sad that both Plymouth and Pontiac now gone.
My dad was a Plymouth guy, bought a 64 Sport Fury brand new with a 426 wedge in it, sold it a year before I was born in 69. Then in 2012 he bought a 70 AAR Cuda clone built on a 73 Cuda. Then in 2015 he found the twin to his 426 Sport Fury and bought that. In 2017 he bought a 36 Plymouth business coupe street rod. He had Mopar on the brain, with a Plymouth bent. He left me the eye searing green Cuda when he passed earlier this year, my siblings got the rest of the vehicles he had. You should not go robbing a bank while driving that Cuda.
I am a hardcore Pontiac man, four GTOs, four Trans Ams, six Formulas, six LeMans/Tempests, a Ventura, and more. I absolutely adore the Pontiac V8, so easy and cheap to make them haul ass, plus nobody other than Pontiac guys can tell a 326 from a 455 or a 540 built on an aftermarket block.
So dad and I both own(ed) and are(were) fans of the orphans.
Don`t forget about Oldsmobile! Even the loss of AMC breaks my American car heart.
@@fast03vette4me I really like the Olds engine, the 403 is one of my favorites, decent power and surprisingly good mileage. I am not too broken up about losing Pontiac and Olds though, they stopped building the good engines and replaced them with the orange lumps 40 years ago. Olds and Pontiac died in 1979. At least we can still find them out in the wild.
I know, especially Plymouth
@@fast03vette4me me too
Awesome race between two great car's. The GTX is my dream car. I hope to find a '68 that I can afford before I die. Good thing I can still dream.
I bought my 1969 GTX from the first owner when it was 1& 1/2 years old. The Owner had installed a Carter Competition AFB, AC, power steering, power brakes, torque flight & 3.23 posi. Wonderful car. I also had a 1968 440 Charger RT, 1970 440 Challenger RT/SE and 1972 340 Challenger.
Which one do you wish you still had- only pick one.
What color was the Charger?
@@bradconway6111 Hi. All of them had a console shifter, AC, power steering and power brakes. Oddly, they all were green except the 72 which was brown. They all ran and operated perfectly. The GTX was my favourite. That's the one that I wish that I still had. I also had a 1968 Dodge Coronet station wagon with a factory 383 in it. MOPAR guy
I didn’t think Isla Fisher could be any hotter.. and then I saw her as a 426 Hemi. My dreams have been answered.
Ha!
Yeah she's a hottie haha
She's a Hemi Head hottie :D
Love the GTO. Such a Badass Car
Neat car, very clean!
My first car was a 1968 GTO - 400/ 4 speed. Mopar made some fast cars but Pontiac and Oldsmobile made much more refined products.
@@wahsatchtraining4302 cool man. Love the 68s
I love the GTX, but I've always had a soft spot for the GTO.
Both pretty cool 😎
I wouldn't kick either one of them out of my garage
Sad day when I let mine go.
@@CarsAndZebras I'm looking for either a 70 runner or a 71 challenger. Both are my favourite cars. I grew up with them. My father was a Mopar mechanic
Fantastic video as always, brother. A very tight battle. I love that GTX!
thanks for watching 👍
I noticed that the Goat ran the fastest time of 13.45, which was never seen again by either car...and it had extra weight almost equivalent to having Rosie O'Donnell on board...with a smaller engine...with less HP/TQ, etc.!
GTX had poor gearing though too
@@tl5108 I run a 3.23 in my 455 cars. With torque, you don't need a bunch of gearing. plus that carb on that 440 aren't that big.
GTX had less than performance gearing...3:23 rear end to get some gas mileage. Just think what would have happened if it had the same gears as the pontiac.
@@martinblack7086 lmao watch Pontiacs with a equivalent gear or lower still be faster
Lol 😂
Both cars are awesome. I would be proud to have either one!!
Me too!
people really underestimate these classic mopars. which is why I love em'
The GTX is probably my favorite old mopar.
@@bunk-bn9eo honestly, next to the roadrunner, 1970 Charger R/T and the Cuda', same. I love classic mopars more than almost any other pre-90s car
Not anyone whos had thier ass handed to them by a mopar
Love these videos watching these old muscle cars battle it out
Just stumbled across this channel and man am I sure glad I did
3:45
That was one of the best toots ever while announcing the weight of the GTO.
Literally could write a song and that would take the place of the lead guitar.
Very musical 🎶
I would like to say one I love your sense of humor. Started cracking right up right from the get. Secondly I found it very educational I like your style of giving the history of both cars. Thank you. Killed me with new kids on the block!!😂😂
Only good things more to come for this Mopar line. Motor Trend Car Of The Year Award- 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner. Meep! Meep!
Man watching this was really exciting. I grew up in Nashville TN when Darrel Waltrip and others were racing, we would walk around the corner to the Fairgrounds and watch the races at the Speedway. Thanks for this video.
Sad both companies are gone now. I am a Pontiac fan. The GTO Judge (orange) is my dream car. I will never live long enough to have one BUT... we can all dream
Awsome vídeo as always CnZ!!!!!!!!
Loved the GTX..
Thanks for watching 👍
My grandmother bought my uncle a new 1968 Plymouth GTX for helping her with the farm after he graduated high school that year. My grandfather had died in 1966. It was silver with a dark vinyl top. It had a 440 Commando 4 barrel carb, auto transmission.
Hear the GTX hit third almost at the 1/4 mile end, with those tall 3.23's. It was headed for a fast mile....
Word is he’s still accelerating to this day...
THIS IS A DAMMMMN GOOD MATCH UP TALKING GUY!!!
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..And the winner is the GT......
X! Mopar or no car
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Hell yeah 💪🏼😎
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@@countryboy6767 is that a dumpster
It didn't have the quickest ET so that's on the driver nothing to do with your slow car
I owned and ran the crap out of nearly every Mopar from a 68 Coronet R/T built 440 to a 70 R/T 440 six pack Charger. Loved them all and still do. But damn, I was messing around on street tires practicing 0-60 runs and did an 1/8 mile for fun. I coasted to a 13 second 1/4 mile. The factory has returned to the good old days. Of course there are more bells and whistles. Just like between a 36 Chevy and a 70 R/T Charger. We just need to accept it and love the new horsepower wars.
2:23 Poor Mustang II got levelled. LOL These videos are always fun.
Nice twist to add Bub Lindemann to your video. I remember watching Bud on Car and Track when it was new. He died young at 58. Not surprising since he always that pack of cigs in his shirt pocket.
Always interesting watching his video clips. At certain times you can hear him shuffling his notes while he is narrating. 👍
Good job as always C&Z
Thanks again for watching! I’m sure I’ll catch you at an event in the spring
It looked like in the other two races that the GTO struggled to get out of the starting line.
The driver just slept on the lights.
@@1972Ventura455ho yep, the GTO was actually the faster of the 2 cars, it had the best MPH of the two and the best Qtr mile time of the three races.
Takes a mopar to catch a mopar
I can appreciate the dedication
Buick GSX: Hold my beer
Absolutely, you think we're gonna catch him in a dog pie chevy, takes a mopar to catch a mopar. Maybe the best line ever in a movie ! At least for us mopar nuts. For those of you unfamiliar, it's from Vanishing Point, 1970. A 68 Charger chasing a 70 Challenger!!!
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The GTO had the lower ET of the match. Both cars were all over the place as far as ET and MPH went.
The GTXs always run hard even with conservative gearing.
That GTX needed some 411's.
@@donjennings9034I think it is more impressive to see these cars run good times with highway gearing. Back in the day cars like the GTX were your everyday transportation. Not many people were going to have 4.11s or 4.56s in their everyday driver. Plus a car like this would top 140mph with 3.23 gears.
That GTX really carved out that quarter mile
The GTO had the best time and the fastest MPH... even though the Mopar won 2 of 3...
A straight Ram Air 400 c. i. GTO. I don't think it could beat a GTX.
But if we're talking Ram Air IV then that's a different story.
Another different story would be the GTX with better gearing!
@@martinblack7086 and another story would have been the GTO with 3.55s...
GTO with 355 would be faster. Ram Air 2,3,4 will give any Mopar a race.
Now the Ram Air 5....
With the proper driver that pontiac would perform much better..Enough said!!!!
I love those old Budd vids! They beat the snot outta everything they tested!
Two beautiful cars . The iconic Pontiac GTO, and Plymouths philosophical clone of the GTO. The GTX. It was clear the GTO is making some serious horsepower as indicated by the trap speed in the first round. The GTX demonstrated the torque is king with some really impressive E Ts while running 3.23 gears. Good match up. Both cars are well tuned. The GTO was clearly off its game in round 2 and 3.
Yeah I was a bit surprised, given the gear ratios, that the GTO didn't do better out of the hole. I was also surprised that the GTX didn't have the higher trap speed, with those long legs.
Any time you lose you could say your off your game!
That is one sexy GTX and it performed Great with 3.23 gears
GTO, GTX AND Wedding Crashers in the same video? Big W
I’d take the GTO.
Good man
Goodday C & Z,
Love the GTX, which you called a coupe 😢.
Anyway Mopar or no car. Only 10 Ibs of torque less than a Hemi.
Great times from both muscle cars, love the Body lines on those B Bodies.
Your number 1 Fan in Australia
Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
I like the GTX as well! One of my favorites 👍
@@CarsAndZebras
Have you had the pleasure of owning one ?
Both cars ET and MPH were all over the place.
Guess that rear gear didn’t matter much after all with all that torque 😂
Reaction time means alot
Don't see many 428 Grand Pix's. Those things are sleeper.
There’s usually a ‘69 428HO 4-speed that usually shows up
I had a 69 SJ 428 automatic. Hideous dark green grandma car, but fast for the day.
@@gregbrooks3577 I want to 428 or 455 Pontiac (400- 500 hp, Slightly tuned with EFI In my 1980 Grand Prix. Grand National Rear end and Beefed up 200r4 Transmission.
I love both cars. I just bought an all original 66 383 Charger. Probably my favorite car I've owned.
My neighbor found a '66 charger with a 383 also. Love the styling and the 383!
I remember my Dad looking for a new car in 1966 ( he was a dodge guy) and seeing a new charger on the show room floor. We couldn't talk him into buying it, but my brother and me sure tried!!
Did the shifter on the GTO have L at the top an P at the bottom? It looked upside down?
Plymouth driver had excellent reaction time.....that made difference n crossing finish line first. Both cars equally matched.
I'm still take the GTO over the mopar
GTO AWESOME NICE CAR
I'll take the Plymouth....and the win!
To each his own, but if that GTX had some better gears, lights out.
Not sure what the GTX owner did between rounds 2 and 3 but he picked up over 3 mph over his first two runs. According to the calculators it takes about 25HP for a 3800 pound car to pick up 3 MPH in the 1/4 mile. Hidden nitrous bottle? 🤣
If they had time between rounds he probably did some timing & jetting adjustments which are easy to do on the Mopar big blocks being the distributor is in the front & changing jets on the old carter AFB were quick & easy as well .
Maybe if you tried to actually race that shit instead of googling shit you'd find your answer
but the GTO's trap speed and Qtr time in the first race was the best of the 3 races
That was a really good race really good matchup but I believe the GTO should have won with that gear ratio
it did win... had the best time and the best trap speed.
Nice. Isla was killer in that movie.
That was a great pairing. That GTX really pulls hard at the top. Some slightly steeper gears would help the numbers out even more.
Yes, I wonder what the GTX would have done with the 3:54 gears in the 9¾ Dana 60 rear-end. My neighbor traded his '68 Corvette with a 427 for a '68 GTX with a 426 Hemi because the GTX was faster. I have salivated over that model car ever since...
Mopars may be fast but in this round the GTX never touched the GTOs 13.45 e.t. I have gained respect for GM small block 400. In Chevy and Pontiac. I have 1 in my 76 Laguna.
GTO 400 Ram AIr is a Big Block (NOPE I"M WRONG- See below)
@@ScarlettFire341 no it ain't. Pontiac NEVER made a big block or small block. They used the SAME block for all their engines.. Back in those days. But research it. You'll see.
@@Shannon102611 you be right - thx ! Pontiac’s engine program took a different route however as they do not have a small- and big- block, but one engine architecture. Introduced in 1955, like Chevy’s small-block, the “Strato-Streak” displaced 287-ci and made 180 hp with a two-barrel carburetor, and 200 hp with a four-barrel carburetor. Over time, this engine grew all the way up to 455ci by the late 1960s without any changes to its external dimensions. Thus, Pontiac only has a single V-8 block as it was more than capable of competing with Chevrolet’s entire lineup.
I had a Mopar and a Pontiac at the same time great days.
had a 68 gtx 383 six pack vetical gate 4 speed did 148 mph none of my freinds would ride in that car also had three darts @ the same time 68 340 six pack blk/blk vertical gate four speed a fast and fun driver gtx was kinda a train off the track in the curves even wit both hands on wheel lubbed the vid thanks fo sharin scooter d p.s. i love anything 68
Gto driver reaction was pretty slow
Nursing that junk GM rear dif
Depends on the drivers reaction in this case.
What gears.
I’d like to climb in the backseat of that GTX and eat some fries.
Hey RONALD back then I could buy 2 cheeseburgers + FRIES + soda and still get 16 cents back, enough for more. But now $2.19 for JUST your soft greasy little bag of fries SUCKS! And a cheeseburger for $1.79 each now. The meat patty is thinner than the pickle! WTF CLOWN!
Don't stain the upholstery dipping into the "ketchup".....
Good race
I couldn’t really see what was going on when they both launched but I can promise you that with these cars being as close as they are..... fists would’ve been thrown before money was paid. I saw this movie a hundred times on Gratiot and Woodward in the early seventies.
ha! which town?
@@Elite59 Detroit
You could never find either of these cars that cheap on the car lots. You had to factory order one to get one at those low prices. I turned 19 the summer of ‘68 !!!
Sad to see the GTX in movie Tommy Boy get ruined by the deer! But I only imagined it if it was "real life!"
Those 440s are beasts! Hard to beat, even for a hemi.
426 has a LOT more potential than the 440.
@@donjennings9034 yep. I agree. But on the streets, 440 was king.
Just watched a 396 chevelle devour a hemi
Even though the GTX won 2 of 3 races, the GTO had the best time at 13.45 and the best MPH at 101.79 This indicates to me the GTO is a bit faster the rest is just driver error or the driver not getting a good start!
You are right but most of these armchair racers don't know that and want the GTX to win anyway. Facts don't matter to these bench racers.
I have doubts on the GTX running a 3:23 gear. I’m with you on the first run of the GTO: being faster: It.doesn’t make sense & doesn’t look like wheel spin or the trap speed would likely be up from the first run….. unless he is out of gear in the traps,
If you wanted a "sealed deal" type race, you should've replaced the GTX with a Roadrunner from that era... RRs were bare-boned emphasis on drivetrain with all of the gingerbread removed (console, bucket seats, sport steering wheel, radio/8track, a/c, etc) for weight reduction, and were strictly 4 on the floor with a nice rear-end ratio...Roadrunners in 68 and 69 were degraded cars meant for modifications or bare-boned racing on the track or strip, while you went for the GTX for all the "goodies"... Trim and gingerbread package options didn't appear on the RR until 1971, when the car utilized a Satellite body, and the Belvidere body had been discontinued in 1970... The GTX had only one final year in 71 with a Satellite body, in which the gingerbread was standard, along with the 383 magnum as standard, with the 440 as an option...
Road Runner's even early one's could be optioned as pig's too, and GTX's were never available with 383 from the factory, and always shared the satellite body.
I noticed how quiet these 2 cars were. It seems they both had stock mufflers and maybe resonators as well.
I love this👍🐎🐎🐎
jesus christ i feel like i just watched the whole fuckin wedding crashers how many cuts ??!
I like cars
Said Garth from Wayne's World!
why is it every gto u feature loses the race??
If that was a Ram Air IV - it would have been a different story.
because most GTO’s were not that fast compared to many others during the muscle car era. You had to buy a ram air model to get a decent one
@@kimmorrison9169 didn't all 68-69 GTO,s have Ram Air ? And the Ram Air IV is a totally different beast than a Ram Air III quite a bit different engine parts Cam, Heads, Intake, and what not.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 no, Ram Air 3’s were an option and your right about the Ram Air 4
Because Pontiac didn't get their shit together till they built Super Duty 455s
Both beautiful old school muscle cars!! I'll take either one.....
All the talk here about the GTX being the faster car seems to neglect the fact that the GTO ran the quickest time and fastest trap speed. With a 200 lbs weight disadvantage to boot. Pontiac's are fast, even with gm trying to give all the better parts to chev.
You had 3 races and lost 2....other side of the coin would be you got lucky once...or with the GTX , the best was yet to come. I like both cars, but not excuses.
The Pontiac lost, get over it! 😆
In 1969 i totaled my 64 GTO , took the $ 900.00 the insurance company gave me and ran with my fiancee to Roth Pontiac in Toledo Ohio where i purchased a.............baby blue LeMans ? Arrggghhhh !
My 02 SS runs 3.23's ...12.3 @ 112
26" tire thru traps at 5000 rpm
Not stock, like these two are.
It's not a GTO or GTX.
Just pointing out you don't necessarily need 4.10 gears to run quick times....they should match your engines powerband.
Doubtful many of these cars are running a 60's spec cam or stock stall converter.....why would they? Nobodys tearing down their engine to check....lol
It's just for fun / bragging rights.
Who cares they cast that pos in Mexico from Chinese metals. I wouldn't piss on that commie shit if it was on fire.
It’s amazing how slow these cars actually were compared to todays generation two muscle cars.
But they were hella fast for their time
@@TheJMan1K I know I had a 1969 dodge coronet super bee hemi and I thought I was hot shit back then now I’ve had a dodge challenger hellcat redeye they could probably beat that car in going in reverse LOL
They are still fast for their caliber
@@hellraiserx9490 That is exactly what I was thinking. I had a 68' GTO with a bigger cam and bigger carb with 373 gears and a turbo 400 slap stick tranny... thought it was pretty bad ass. Today I have a 2017 Charger Hellcat. My guess is, the Hellcat would leave my old GTO in the dust by 20 cars or so!
There are no muscle cars now days. Turbocharged mini cars ain't muscle cars.
Driver error
I'd say those two cars were pretty much even up...
like i've said before if you can't beat a big block Mopar out of the hole then you aren't going to catch him on the other end
I'll give the GeTX a slight edge due to Cubes..
Well the GTO has 3.9-1 drag gears and the GTX has a normal street rear end ,there is a big advantage there .The GTO would be a pretty terrible street car with a TH400 3 speed
Too heavy!!!
Damn, Do I love watching this videos. Even better that you always have some of my favorite movies thrown in for some always welcoming crude sexual humor. Keep on motorboating! 🚗 🚢
Awesome cars! Always love the GTO's no matter what year but any old Mopar is cool in my book too. Anyone else notice in the first race from half to two thirds track on the GTX made the GTO look like it was tied to a stump. You think he let off?
Lol that's where a 440 really starts turning on. You better hard gap a 440 car at the beginning. That big end pull was no joke.
That was the torque kicking in on the Mopar!
If not for the 3:23 rear end GTO wouldn't have squeaked by....
Hey.... waiting to see the BOSS 429...😏😏
I pray too, you know what I mean 😆
YT plops this oldie, but a goodie in my recommended.
Sometimes the algorithms get it right!
Hope yer well, C&Z.
GTO HAD 366HP AT
5100 RPM .... SO WHAT DID IT HAVE AT
6300RPM
Pontiacs aren't known for high rpm engines most low end torque . I knew guys who had them & tried to over rev them & it usually ended up not good with blown head gaskets & I have seen harmonic balancers break the crank shaft stub off of the crank where it bolts on & I have seen on my fathers 69 Pontiac Grand Prix 400 the harmonic balancer busted off .
@@peteloomis8456 HAD AN
L78 69 CHEVELLE AND THAT THING COULD GET PUSHED TO 7000 NO PROBLEM .... THE POWER MAY HAVE DROPPED OFF WAY BEFORE THAT BUT YOU COULD DO IT ....
@@peteloomis8456
My buddy had a ram air 4 400 in his 67 GTO, and the kid couldn't drive it for shit.
Always revving it to 7000 when the tires broke loose.
He couldn't pedal a burnout for shit.
Never blew it up though.
@Domino YOU KNOW WHEN IT ALL COMES DOWN TO ONE THING!!!!!
THE LOVE FOR A PARTICULAR CAR AND THE JOY OF JUST DRIVING IT ON AN OPEN ROAD WITH NO ONE AROUND !!!!!
It would have had a thrown rod at 6300 rpms!!! The 068 cam in the Ram Air 3 had 212/225 duration at .050 and around .407 valve lift. Combine that with the small port factory heads (#48's) and the engines nose dive after about 5200 rpms. An L78 Chevelle running a mechanical cam and huge rectangular port heads could breathe even through the crappy exhaust manifolds. Pontiac had low and midrange power and it worked very well. I'm betting with a taller gear like a 3.73 or 3.55 this car would run just as quick and probably faster trap speeds.
It’s something about the left lane most but not all of the wins are in the left lane
Remember mopar gains horsepower the higher the rpms and its a himi
Bud called that GTX a Gittix.. 😄
and some people back in the day called the GTO a Gee Toe
@@ScarlettFire341 the great one.. The goat
The GTO does look a lot more sexy and mean
I'm not a MoPar guy but I can't stand it when someone calls a GTX a "Get-X" like that old time spokesman the short film clip. To me it's like putting ketchup on a hotdog. Just curious. Do you MoPar fans cringe when you hear "Get-X" yes or no???
Yes lol
Nah, that one doesn’t bother me. The one I hate is calling a Challenger a ‘Chally’. The real question is, what’s wrong with ketchup on a hot dog!? lol
@@rong4189Chally,.. sounds like something Mike Brewer would call it.
@@richcar3434 😂
you forgot to mention the pontiac 366
Niiiiiiiiiice
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
Mopar!
Lol slight oversteer
Just a little 😎
That's what he told the tow truck driver, that pulled him out of the ravine!
My old ramir 1v. Was a rpm screamer 6750 limiter Pontiac could out run the 375 hp 396 every day. Ratted at 366 hp. With 0val port heads. Or the firebird trans am. Ram air 5.
gto had a bad driver
His ET and MPH was all over the place.
Yeah he didnt do it justice
Are you !...a 330 R-Gear is death in straightline ! ! 360 & up is a Mopar !
Ah Geez.... the 400 equipped Goat doesn't stand a chance.
Been there did this on the street throughout the 1970's.....the "porky" 400 Goats just weren't competitive outa the hole equipped with the Automatics.... where most street races were won and lost in the first 100 feet.
Now substitute the 455 in the GTO(Get Tools Out) and the Loser role would be reversed onto the rattelite GTX
Even the RAIV?
I respectfully disagree sir.. I owned a 1968 GTO 400ci Ram Air, 373gears Hurst (His&Hers) Duel Gate shifter. And "on the street" I used to eat um up!! Not sure what it was but that lil 68 GTO was a killer. It drug cars that it should have never beat. My best buddy had a 69 Judge and I whipped his ass every time. We even swapped cars a couple times & my 68 won almost every time. It was the craziest thing. I could uncap the headers & it ran consistently in the low 13s hi 12s. I did have a wider tire on it. Maybe a 60 .
All i hear are excuses
Obviously you ain't never daily drove one and run the lips off of it. Them junk GM rear difs and garbage coil springs. Them GM cars were designed to ride nice not to be flogged.