The Mystery Of The Impossible World Record (A Breakdown)
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- One of the greatest & most controversial world records is in danger.
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In reference to the information in the datasets regarding the overall split times, it's cited through various sources and mostly has reliable information, but there are some discrepancies regarding the validity of certain finishes. If you want to take a closer look make sure to follow each source next to the finishing time. Thanks for watching!
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2023 World Champion? 2024 Olympic Champion? Will She Break the WR?
It all depends on if we get 2021 Elaine Thompson again, and if Shericka keeps making improvements in the 100m so that they can all keep pushing each other to break that WR!
Elaine Thompson Hera!
Nobody will beat the GOAT
Yeah, no one will break that record this decade. Sorry but true. I’d love to see it go, but not yet. :/
If you look at Flo-Jo’s technique and her height, even she herself never reached her peak. She could have gone faster than the 10.49sec clocking if she stayed and carried on running to improve!
Now Fraser-Pryce’s only deficit is her lack of stride length. She is running as fast as Flo-Jo if not faster in certain parts of the 100 meters (the first 50 meters) but isn’t able to maintain through the top end to the finish line. Flo-jo had mentioned that she needed to improve her start; so you see the difference? If Fraser-Pryce could improve her stride length and speed maintenance from 60 meters to the finish then yes, should would break the World Record (but I doubt that she can just simply because of her lack of stride length. She needs to be a few inches taller)
Flo Jo's height at 5'7 vs Shelly Ann at 5'0 is the clear difference between the world records. It proves how amazing Shelly Ann is to get so close to Flo Jo's record with a stride length 7 inches less
It doesn't quite translate from height to stride length like that, but I get your point
If you all think Flo Jo won without drugs, you should quit your jobs and start selling refrigerators to Eskimos, I hear there's money to be made
Here are the facts ;
- She has never won an individual gold medal in any event all her career before 1988.
- She was so poor at winning, she left track and went to work in a bank to make ends meet before 1988.
- She returned to track only a little over a year before breaking the record, all doctors and specialists say, there is no way any individual could improve their physique or performance in such leaps in such a short period.
- She actually had a moustache in 1988 and she looked more manly, a byproduct of steroids and testosterone.
- Out of competition drug testing was not available before 1989, therefore, athletes could use drugs during training and get it's effects, before the competition and not get caught when a test was done during competition
- Her best time before 1988 in the 100m was 10.96 in 1987, and before that, she ran 10.99, all her other 100m results were above 11.00, there is no way an athlete in 12 months could reduce a 10.96 to 10.49 without performance enhancement drugs .
- She died from epilepsy, a condition she never had before, 1988, this sickness is heavily associated with people who abuse steroids.
- She suddenly quit track when it was announced that mandatory drug testing would be introduced while athletes were in training and out of competition.
She was no champion, she was drug cheat.
Every single world record holder in track and field, has won events leading up to their record breaking achievements, except Flo Jo
That's much overlooked and at 5'7" she was taller then many other sprinters from her time and even today.
Sha'carri Richardson is 5'1" and the current World Champion 2023 and much smaller then Flo Jo had been.
@@hman2912Just look at Bolt he had been slow at the start but is having great speed at about 60 to 80m. He is very tall too for a sprinter.
@@hman2912 I agree with you. But we can not overlook the fact that both the female and male 100m world champions are both taller than average and not consider the possibility that it's an advantage.
Well, the replay clearly shows that Flo-Jo actually increased her stride length towards the end, whereas most modern athletes either keep the same length, or shorten it, thinking that they will go faster if they can push off the ground more often.
Jonathan Edwards used the same technique for his Triple Jump WR, using longer, flatter strides to maintain speed rather than the usual technique of jumping higher to increase distance in the Hop/Stop phases, but doing so reduces your lateral velocity at the Jump stage making it shorter.
Someone else who uses the same technique as Flo-Jo/Edwards .... Usain Bolt.
Oh please stop, it's drugs what did this nothing else.
Anyone that knows her circumstances surrounding that year and that race, an improvement so profound over just six months, knows theres gonna always be an asterick with that WR.
*asterix
*asterisk
@@laurencewainwright
*ostrich
@@irresistablejewel *obelix
Random fact: this record was set in the peak of the 80s doping boom.
Of course she was doped to the max. That's normal. But why were the others so much slower?
@@Palestrina-us8sv Blood doping has zero effect on 100m times. None whatsoever. It's entirely anaerobic. Many of them don't even breathe for the whole race. How much oxygen your blood can carry is irrelevant.
Random fact: Everyone has been on gear up to this day and will continue to be, in every sport
@@jer.milasot95who
The Operative Word Is>"Random".
With Flo Jo's running style, it didn't look like she was trying. Just trotting along. That's what's so captivating.
That is how it is when you are juicied up.
@@donbaxley5530 Not really. There's a lot of juiced up people who run like gorillas.
@@lookinforthe70s have a look at her from the year previous when she had a weak finish and her legs didn't look like they'd come off Ben Johnson
@@snoopythedog3266 I'm saying that whether you do steroids does not automatically make your running style look better.
Yes we get it, y'all want to make the point she did steroids.
I'm specifically talking about, doing steroids does not translate to better running style.
@@lookinforthe70s she had a great style before the peds, she just didn't have that power on the run in
Like someone else said, I think if anyone breaks 10.49, it will be Elaine Thomson-Harah. Not only is her PB 10.54 (wind = +0.9, age = 31), faster than Fraser-Pryce's 10.60 (wind = +1.7, age = 37), Thompson is also six years younger.
Seems like she slowed up this year not even a top contender …it will never be broken
Why hasn't she broken the record yet? What is she waiting on? Christmas?? for Santa to come around. That record has been standing for a long time and it will remain that way
No one can atm. Unless they use drugs
The 10.60 is a false reading .. go to the race and hit stop the moment u see her cross look at the time..
She is much taller then the others too at 168 cm
Flo Jo was a total drugs cheat; she was no more than slightly above average and within a short space of time her physique changed and times came dramatically down, Her husband was her coach and was banned for drug cheating. She died young from a massive heart attack. Says it all.
Lies, lies, and more lies...God Is Not Mocked. As You Sow So Shall You Reap.
@@ronniejohnson196 - stay off the funny cigarettes
I remember watching Flo Jo run as a kid. My whole family was jumping up and yelling “Go Flo Jo, Go!!” Such beauty and grace.
Beauty and grace is so right! She had a hidden heart condition that made her stop running. Never tested positive
You forgot the dope.
I really enjoyed looking at the two runners by comparing their times every 10 meters. I didn't think I would ever see this record fall in my life time, but now I have hope it will. Thank you for making this video.
For Flow Jo to retire straight after the ‘88 games makes it very dubious. Her massive improvement. If you also study her times 12 months prior to ‘88, her improvement was over 0.6 of a second in time for the games, and then she quits. It too suspect to ignore… and then she dies prematurely in her late 40’s. Pretty much what happens routinely in body building. It raises a lot of questions…
late 40s? she was 38.
@@teevee7678 Ooops, That’s even worse
Indeed
Strange isn't it that Flo-Jo retired just before random out of completion testing was to be come the norm.
Correct (apart from the age). With those gains, her suspect retirement and early death, she doped harder than anyone else at the 'drugs olympics'. People who think she was a clean athlete are mugs
It's interesting that her fellow athletes had a few things to say about that record. I am going along the lines of Ben Johnson and what was discovered about him later on.
She was tested numerous times
@@yearo77 The East Germans proved it was an era where it was easy to get away with cheating. No question in my mind that she was a cheat, given the chain of events.
Not only was she using PEDs ( verified by the teammate who sold it to her and Carl Lewis) but that wind reading was ridiculous. You can see the flags blowing like crazy and the reading is 0? The other races that day were wind aided but miraculously the wind disappeared for FloJo? No one goes from bank teller/ hair stylist to buff world record holder without some "medication". Her husband was also a confirmed PED user. Too many coincidences not to declare her guilty of steroid use.
Evidence?🤔
@@lalib.53 there is none, just as there was none with East Germans who later admitted to mass doping that they know would be undetected.
Join the dots…it’s no coincidence she improved so dramatically in a way no athlete in history has done at that time of her career, in an era rife with doping, and her sister-in-law, using the same coach, also so happens to have drastically improved and suddenly posted times snd records that have been untouchable for 35 years, which, again, is unheard of.
Flo Jo’s track rise is the biggest scandal never told in sports.
Except for the Lie You just told.
Flo Jo wasn’t even near those times in 1984. Then in 1988 she is running almost 1 second faster than the same competition. Plus she is 4 years older approaching her 30’s? Come on please don’t drink the Flo Jo kool aid.
@@ronniejohnson196 her autopsy had many signs of drug abuse
@@hotdog9262FloJo's death was caused by an epileptic seizure due to a congenital brain disorder, sadly drowned RIP❤
DYOR
Where's this proof or is this your wishful thinking.
This is by far the best T&F channel I've ever witnessed.
It’s no secret that this record is dope!
It is a great record and like but like all the rest of them it will go down and I guess they'll say whoever breaks the record is on steroids too
Lol she must have been juiced to the gills xD
Since Flo jo passed every drug test given to her in my mind her records are legitimate.
@@richardplantan4375 so did Lance Armstrong lol
If you have a professional doping team around you to help you evade / obfuscate the tests, it's way more difficult to get caught.
Armstrong was already well retired when all his crap came out.
Prove It Or STFU.
This was such a great video. Have you done one on "wind"? I'd love to learn about all the things about running and wind.
I love Flojo as much as any one but I am not afraid to say these records were not honestly broken . I remember watching her in her early days when she was a regular third or fourth place finisher and she had a womanly body without all the muscle . All of a sudden she starts winning races and the physical changes were also noticeable . Going from one extreme to the other is only done by steroids . I remember the moment they started testing the athletes she retired immediately , which in itself was very telling to me .
Exactly! All the focus was shifted toward Ben Johnson to divert attention from her.
@@rocco... Yes. Ben was made the example while the Americans got a free pass.
Since she's passed away, there's no one to argue you.
They are still juicing now, don't be fooled.
@@Patthis67 Probably, but they're micro-dosing by comparison in order to avoid detection. Same with cycling. The benefits aren't as extreme.
drugs, wind reading or whatever you wanna call it, Flo jo was MOVING!!!!! and that technique was textbook like
I am not even a professional sprinter but did compete in my younger years. I can tell that Flo Jo last 50m with the drive , knee height and stride length with turnover is the most perfect technique/execution of running i think i have ever seen. It would be near impossible to replicate but if you want to beat her time you will need the exact same finish because i don't think it can get better plus a monstrously good start.
@@BobCharlton ofc top track athletes are enhanced but I think it’s ana exaggeration to say you have to put your life at risk. From what I know they use moderate doses compared to strength athletes and it can be done relatively safely
Afraid it had little to do with her perfect technique - hope it was worth it / dead at 38.
Lol, especially if you are juicied up!
@@donbaxley5530 So who here wasnt ????? Tell me who today isnt...
I heard that the mentor 1 2 3 has it right on the head
She improved from an average runner to unbeatable, which is just questionable in itself. She paid the price for her lifestyle in achieving these times with a massive heart attack.
A runner should have the healthiest of hearts. Suspsicious...
She died from an epileptic seizure.
She had chemical assistance for sure, but her death from a seizure was entirely unrelated.
@@50PullUps apparantly it is likely related
Why Lie? Her World Records Still Stand The Test Of Time.
Incredible video! Thank YOU!
I notice nobody is mentioning performance-enhancing drugs in their comments. Plenty of people were mentioning them when Flo-Jo was racing. I remember at one point in her career just when she started setting records you could look at pictures of her from a couple of years before and the change in muscular development made her look like a different person. It was suspicious.
Plus there was no out of season testing back in the 80s
And her premature death could be a symptom of that. I always suspected....
Flo Jo was 5'7" 126. It was 1988. Put those two facts together with performance enhancing drugs and make them make sense. We're talking about the time frame of anabolic steroids not the time frame of Balco. Truth of the matter is Flo Jo is just the fastest. Track and field is about times. You beat the times, you get the record. You don't beat the times you don't get the record. You make excuses, you finish second. Her form was perfect, her athletic ability was the best. She's the fastest woman athlete of all time. She's even faster than Marian Jones took PEDs in a time where peds could do all the things you're talking about and Marion still didn't beat the times. Stop slandering a dead woman and just give her the credit for being the best female 100m track runner of all time.
@@brownstonecustomcabinetry5309 Show me two pictures of any other elite female track runner taken two years apart that show the differences you can see in Flo Jo and I might believe you.
Lol , I’m sure it was , especially when she never tested negative.
Just like Pryce , Thompson, and Jackson.
Fast is fast.
Sha Carri Richardson don’t look the same from 2 years ago , look it up . Is she on something.
I’d love for Abby Steiner to start winning and we’ll all see these allegations disappear.
Shelly will never break it. She's too short which restricts her turn over per meter/feet ratio. Elaine in good health has a better chance because of her height.
Oh! Shelly max out, Shelly can't run faster no more, she can't run 10.5, Shelly will never break the world record, Shelly too old, she too short. Oh! Shelly this, Shelly that but wait mon, don't be surprise when she shock all of you naysayers.
@@damelia6250 Fair enough. Let's just wait and see.
Interesting that many people are not questioning the dramatic improvement that Flo-jo made between the 1987 world championships and the 1988 US trials and the Olympics. She finished second in the 1987 200m barely getting under 22 secs (2.96) and was barely getting under 11secs for the 100. Suddenly, less than 10 months later she shows all muscular and blazing the 100 in 10.49 and then 21.34 to win gold in Korea. Unheard of improvements for a 28 year old sprinter. I put it to you that she took a page from Ben Johnson and his surprising success in 1987 and started using steroids in prep for the upcoming Olympics. don't forget that back then athletes were only being tested during competitions so all they had to do is to stop using 3 weeks before the event thus avoiding discovery. Ben Johnson was busted because he did not follow the system his coach Charlie Francis had for him. As Ben was concerned about his injury earlier in the season and felt he needed more help went to see a doctor who claimed he knew how to mask the steroids. He didn't.
Ya'll used roids and STILL lost. Stop complaining. She won. It's done.
Even with drugs, that’s an amazing time!
I’m 46 and Athletics was my first love. I’ve been obsessed with this record for 30+ years (and the 200) and desperately need someone to break it so we can move on once and for all. So many modern day sprinters admit they don’t even consider it a world record as it wasn’t clean. They know. Jackson seems in the driving seat 🙏🏻
She definitely was on roids in 88 Olympics. Look at her PB’s before and after. Nowhere close. All of the other female sprinters at the time knew it. Look at what the great Evelyn Ashford has said about it
It doesn´t matter. The average joe will praise these people over and over again even if they´ve been convicted drug abuseres. Human beings are a product of their genetic dispostion and the right training. The rest comes with performance enhancing drugs and growth hormones. The average joe lives his or hers day to day live thinking they´ll become equally as sucessful and famous until the bubble burst and they´ll realise, nope. In the meantime they compensate their own pointless existence and follow these cheaters steps. Every major athletce has been convicted of using forbidden substances. Those who haven´t, well, ask why - not that they didn´t use anything. Only a deluded fool would say otherwise - for the mentioned reasons.
People need heros to reevalute themselfs. Every form of criticsm against that concept lets their fragile egos crumble. In today narcistic - sick soceity even more than ever before. @@corrieroozee6479
She was so dang fast. I had a picture of her in my locker back in the late 80s. She was amazing to watch.
I remember when I saw her run that race, it was amazin how she just ran away from the rest of these women. The last 40 meters was like she was on overdrive or something she was moving so fast.😄 Some men can't run that fast, FloJo was incredible.
so you like doping. shame on you!!!
@@holgerpetersen445 😂😆 whatever man. I was like 15 years old at the time. 😁
@@holgerpetersen445 Back then it wasn't considered doping, man, nowadays it is, yeah. But Flo Jo probably just thought she was taking something that made her body healthier, she and others had No Clue of how dangerous Peds were.
@@holgerpetersen445 So You Like making Accusations and Judging Without>Facts Or Proof>Shame On You!!!!! Very Sad and Pathetic.
Great video. One big difference between Flo Jo and Fraser Pryce is their height. I think we often forget to add this factor into the equation. I am not a mathematician, but I would love to see this incorporated. Usain Bolt's height definitely added to his dominance. If a tall runner can turn over as quickly as a shorter runner, the win will always go to the taller runner (given strength and distance traveled per stride). When shorter runners hit their top speed, Usain Bolt and Flo Jo would still be accelerating. Slower starts, yes, but faster finishes.
I think she was heavy on steroids, some type of experimental drug not yet classified and detectable; her muscles was not real, and also her death is highly suspicious; you should also take into account the political motivations in that era of strong ideological struggle between usa and ussr, with reciprocal olympics banning, and the specific coincidence with fake victories coming from obviously doped soviet athletes
The really big difference is SAFP runs clean, while FloJo's times were PEDs driven.
Right i tought about that too.
That's why i find all those bad press against her even more awful.
@@HH-mw4sq You don't know that. Safp is most likely on peds. Athletes and coaches have become expect at beating testing. Which is highly flawed and limited. This is evidenced across most if not all professional sports. A cursory search will highlight this.
@@baronvonhoughton - SAFP is definitely not on PEDs. PED users don't have longevity, and SAFP might be sprinting in her 5th 100m Olympic final next year. Unlike FloJo who was forced to retire from sprinting immediately after the Seoul Olympics.
Your breakdown of the splits was great, as it shows that Flo-Jo isn't even the fastest over the first 60m in the world. However, it was her speed endurance that enabled her to continue her speed over the whole 100m and get the record. And while I know all about the question marks that are over this record, I am perfectly happy to accept it as a valid time, even more so after this break down.
I agree with everything you said.
@@trackgrad08 FACTS!!!!!!!!! And people also like to leave out Flo Jo was literally a 400m runner before who doubled in the 200m who then moved to 100m
Just as Jackson has done and I find it ironic how her times dramatically improved during Olympics for the 100m and now she’s is expected to break the WR over the 200m
If she wasn't American would you still be impressed?
@@jonathonjubb6626 I'm not American, so does your point still remain valid in your mind?
lol gimme a break, her massive roid intake contributed to speed endurance, her body changed unmistakably between the 86 and 1988
Flo Jo's run is just beautiful.Perfection. Nothing else matches it's majestic moment in time.
If it was the wind that caused her to run that fast then the other runners would have also had better times instead getting blown out😊
Got That Right! One Of A Kind Is Just That.
That's a moot point though.
For all we know there could've been significant wind assistance helping everyone, but she was
only one who had her act together/was already the best out of all sprinters there in that particular sprint
Exactly.
@@tappajaav Every runner in this race ran extraordinarily fast. Dianne Williams in second place ran 10.88, also by far the fastest she ever ran. Five of the runners in this race ran in the semi-finals the next day and the all ran much slower, which is virtually unique in sprinting history. The triple jump was being held at the same time as this race, right next to the track. The wind reading there was +4.3 m/s. The wind reading for this race was simply incorrect, and the record books carry a footnote to this time acknowledging this. FloJo was probably the fastest woman ever, but even she could not run 10.49.
@@johnclark9437 Very good.
Her turnover is amazing, but her stride length due to her height holds her back. This hurts her topend. I don't think she will break it. Bolt is a good example of what I mean. Plenty of people with faster legs, but no one could overcome the stride length. The records are approaching a point now that not only do you have to have the talent/mechanics, but you must also have the best possible body type as well.
Good point as i was constantly watching her stride and wondering how someone shorter could run faster.
@@dahbajanman7044more power
Until someone without that body type breaks the record.
All body types have proven people wrong. There was a time when the 4 minute mile was considered impossible
It is the nature of sports
@@hman2912no 400lb man has ever run a four-minute mile and ever will
Flo Jo's stride was immense
I had not realized this record was set so close to my hometown (which is less than 3 miles outside of Indianapolis/Marion County).
I've BEEN to that track!
Pretty much every WR still standing from the 1980s needs to be expunged
Why?
@@niradnagrom2356 drugs son
I would agree with the WR set by the athletes from Eastern Europe, particularly East Germany, as even retired athletes from that country have stated that various stimulants were used to improve performances and not just in athletics.
@@kurman4749 Plenty of doping went on the West also. The 1984 Olympics are well known to have been a complete joke with widescale cover up by the US labs.
1995 scientific study for the 1,434th time - There is only a 5% chance of the 10.49's wind being lower than +3.5m/s and on average it would most likely have been +5.0m/s.
FGJ wasn't slow though, she ran a 10.61 that was wind-legit so she still had the 1988 -> 2021 WR till ETH got her 10.54
So if SAFP (or ETH) can hit 10.53 or faster that should be the WR.
I don't think SAFP will get to 10.48, nor will she get to 10.53 - She might get 10.59 but that's it, age will creep in, while ETH who is 6 yrs younger should make a comeback and run 10.5x again.
Completely agree with all of this.
Sorry but 10.49 is the record to beat. You can't just go around claiming old records don't count because we think x and y might have been badly measured, otherwise people in the future might start doubting Usain bolt's records for similar reasons.
Sometimes unbelievable things happen.
@@motherofallemails For this particular race you can do this though. It's general knowledge that the Long Jump Pit in the same direction read 4~5 m/s throughout the LJ competition (LJ in the same direction as the 100) & during the same time the wind gauge read 0.0 on the track. It would be one thing if the track gauge had an actual reading, whether it be 2.0, 2.9, 3.5, 5.0, 1.4, etc. However a straight up 0.0 when it felt super windy just shows that it wasn't working.
@@richardgallimore5976 sorry but you can't do that, otherwise in the future people will find their reasons to say various records from our time don't count just like you're doing.
Remember that Flo Jo did not use the modern technology we now have to polish every aspect of her race, otherwise maybe she might have hit a 10.35 or something. Also nobody was even close to her pace to push her to go faster.
Sorry but you just can't go around doing that, it's pretty outrageous actually.
@@motherofallemails We'll have to agree to disagree. 10.54 is the fastest wind-legal time ever run, Elaine TH is the true record holder, SAFP in 2nd at 10.60, & Flo-jo in 3rd in 10.61.
The way FloJo just glided through the last 50 looks like something from a dream.
impeccable technique
More like something wind aided. No way the wind was zero at that time of the year.
@@Headonwriter I think it is likely the wind gauge malfunctioned. However, her form and power is still sublime. Her opponents were world class and had the same wind conditions and were still walked. She still would have set the record in this race. And yes I am aware of the ped allegations, too.
@@Headonwriter If that race was wind aided then the other 7 women must have all ran a personal best time too. And if not then how was she able to benefit from the wind and her competition did not? The 2022 USATF Championships 100m finals was wind aided and it was said that all of them ran under 11 seconds. Now that's evidence of a race being wind aided.
@@Headonwriter So you are saying and deducing that the “Wind” that aided Flo-jo was miraculously only blowing in her Lane and that wind was hell-bent on following only her and pushing ‘She Alone’ in her Lane to that Fabulous World Record?? Let’s shift our focus to Seoul Olympics also in 1988 when she broke the 200meters World Record (21.34sec). She run the last 100meters in under 10 seconds and there was no issue or debate about ‘Some Weird Wind’ blowing behind only in her lane to push her!! So that performance alone was evidence that her 100 meters World Record is Legitimate. Flo-jo had actually planned to continue running and improve her start which she thought needed some work for the next season however endorsements and business deals worth Millions of $$$ particularly international ones that took her away from home (USA) to places like Japan then eventually caused her to decide to retire because she wasn’t finding the time any longer to train, let alone harder to improve on her World Record!! At that point she said she felt she had done it all and there was nothing more to prove!
Flo Jo park is in Mission Viejo CA. While my kids are at the playground I'm still in awe of Flo Jo
FLo Jo form and speed was crazy.
Bruh. At the rate you keep uploading videos. TH-cam will run out of storage in their database
By far the best channel for track n field.... he's a beast
There is a dude with 2 million videos posted
@@jraykotheanomaly2365 He's the best.
He's awesome, keep the videos coming
Dude look at t-series lmao
I don't know whether she'll break FloJo's record or not. It'd be great if she did. I think she has a decent chance if she has at least another couple of seasons without age or injury catching up with her. However every single human is living on borrowed time, and Shelly is no exception. It's magnificent that she was able to have such a peak season this year, and I hope she's able to continue next year, but each additional year is just icing on a cake.
No mystery, it was PEDs driven. To all you FloJo aficionados, FloJo's last competitive sprint race was in Tokyo on October 6th, 1988, very shortly after the Seoul Olympics. She NEVER ran another official sprint race after that. In 1989, she announced her "retirement" from sprinting to focus on the 5K, the 10K, and the marathon. Distances over which she could never be competitive. I mean if a sprinter wanted to go up in distance (something practically unheard of), why not the 800 or the 1500 races? Why 5K? Think of all the money she missed out on with that decision. The European track and field circuit would have paid her whatever she demanded, because they knew she could fill stadiums with her appearances. She had the glamor, the looks, the fashion, everything in one package. Yet she "retired" from sprinting so abruptly. Note she didn't retire from athletics, just sprinting the one thing she was good at, while at the peak of her prowess. FloJo's records need to be expunged. It is unfair to the women who are competing clean.
I’m Guessing (like YOU are GUESSING) that you were there in 1988 to Supply Flo-Jo with those PEDs!!!(??)
You sit on your throne in your little corner of the World in 2023 and assume something that happened in 1988!! How old are you?? Were you there????
You haven’t even bothered to explore why Flo-Jo retired from Athletics therefore you are moving about busily in your little mind and putting 2 & 2 together and arriving at 5.
You Don’t Know The Facts About The Reasons Behind Her Retirement!!!
I suggest you go and learn more about Flo-Jo the ‘Person’ and explore her Athletics Career and STOP making FOOLISH allegations about someone you don’t really know and who is no longer with us and so can’t defend herself. Don’t join the FOOL’s Bandwagon but Please be Wise and Be Kind ❤️🙏🏾
Would need to expunge the womens 400m World Record, which has been held by Marita Koch since 1983 as that has definitely be proved to be drug assisted. When Germany re-unifiwd the GDR's athleyics records were seized and it showed systematic doping. It didn't name actual athletes, codes were used, but the Championship results of one particular athlete matched Kock's exactly.
@@stevored1989 - yep. Marita Koch's 400m record also needs to be expunged.
Tokyo.... lol...
She would never sprint again because....."I choose not to run!"
Flo-Jo paid the ultimate price for her "extreme" performance. May she rest in peace.
Care to elaborate
@@tappajaav He's talking out of his rear end...Flo Jo was undoubtedly a drug cheat but she was reported by the coroner to have died of suffocation during a severe epileptic seizure in her sleep...aged only 38.
She died of an epileptic seizure due to abnormalities of the blood vessels in her brain.
Right>Years of Continuous False Accusations.
@@tappajaav Just watch the video. All the elaboration you need.
I was in HS running track when she broke those records. May she rest in peace.
Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce is 36, that's just crazy and unbelievable to be that competitive in this sport at that age.
I want her to break that record, but at the same time I also don't want Flo-Jo's record to be broken.
The Jamaicans and Flo Jo's American opponents want to erase her official world records. I understand the reason for this: It is hard for them to bear that there was such an excellent athlete who achieved such fantastic results without doping. The envy, jealousy, anger that they may feel because of this becomes palpable to those who can sense it. It's easier for people to make accusations, find excuses, smear someone (Flo Jo) if their goal is not to acknowledge the wonderful achievements of a certain person. Such is human nature...
Back in the day, I was a fan of Flo Jo, but now it is pretty obvious that there was major PED use involved.
i) Rapid muscle gain.
ii) Deeper voice
iii) Facial hair (hence heavy makeup)
iv) Dying at age 38 of the same cause that many WWF wrestlers of the same era died from.
v) She retired immediately after a stricter testing regimen was going to be implemented.
Witness Flo Jo's form at the last 50 meters of the race. It's almost as if her feet barely touch the surface. It's almost unexplainable how she gracefully established such a sprint without it appearing that her strides were definitely not heavy. Until another runner perfects the right type of stride with power, Flo Jo's record will still stand. I do believe Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce has an opportunity to break Flo Jo's record if she pushes herself to her upper limits from 70 meters-to-100 meters. It's almost mind boggling how fast Flo Jo was powering through during the last 30 meters. Power combined with a near perfect form toward the end of the race.
Todd Sands - you’ve said it best! Flo Jo’s stride & form is flawless. She used her long legs like Usain Bolt does. She just flew ☮️
@@GaiaCarney Pretty Much!
Shelly-Ann Fraser-Prycе , too fat and too short. IMHO, if she could lose like 10 lbs at least, she could run faster.. Steroids? Regardless, look overweight still.
First thing I noticed was her gazelle-like strides. Especially in the second half of the race. It was like each stride equalled a stride and a half for the other competitors. Long, bounding strides with the same turnover of the others.
In an interview immediately after the race she wasn't even excited, merely pleased. She immediately stated she had run faster. In an interview with her and her husband, an Olympic 110m high hurdler, he stated she held the family record. He said, I wouldn't let any women beat me, when she did, I knew no women could beat her.
To get a realistic estimate of Flo Jo's speed, her relay time of 10.15 should be used.
I spent a week on the same floor at a hotel as Flo-Jo in the early 90's, riding the elevator with her every morning with my young charges. The kids would play around where she was running and were fascinated by her outrageous nails. She was warm, funny and tremendously kind. At the time she talked to me a lot about arm strength in her technique and how having huge arm strength allowed her to increase her leg speed but looking at these clips I am impressed by how her leg extension is so incredible in her stride. I looks as if her feet a literally grabbing the track way out in front of her and reeling in. It was sad era of Olympics where there really was a dark doping underbelly in almost every sport at the time but Flo-Jo was indeed a mind blowing athlete and incredible competitor.
Thanks for this. 💯
Flojo was and will always be my favorite runner. She was the only barbie doll I ever wanted and owned. Too many people think she was dopping..and she was tested constantly..so much so that it could easily be considered a bias. And it should be, because to this day people are under the false belief that she tested positive. That's defamation of character! And the best testing official at the time has openly said repeatedly, she never tested positive!
Other woman are just jealous they can't accomplish what she did. And even regarding the wind arguement for the 100m, she still holds the world record in both the 100 and 200m runs. The same argument can't be applied twice. She was just a godess and a beast. Just natural talent beyond what others can defeat at this point.
@@lonetiger1000 There is little doubt that Flo-Jo got her WR because of doping. At the time of the 1988 olympics, growth hormone or HGH was not an illegal PED in sports and there was no standardized doping test for it. Flo-Jo's post mortem results showed enlarged internal organs including her heart which is a clear sign of HGH abuse. Darrell Robinson also said he had talked about HGH with Flo-Jo and purchased some for her. The olympics only started HGH testing in 2006. Flo-Jo's heavy makeup use was also speculated to cover up acne which is another side effect of anabolic steroids.
Arm strength allowed her to increase her leg speed?
@@lonetiger1000 Well Said And Greatly Appreciated!!!!!
No one talks about how she died from mucus in her lungs caused by dairy allergy, not PEDs. Such a beautiful woman and fine athlete. Put respect on her name.
I understand there is a lot of controversy with Flo-Jo and her record. However, look at the running style, it looks like she is almost floating, it was simply perfect!
steroids
They only controversy is people making unfounded claims.
@@Kay-fv7cwThe only controversy are from drug-deniers. There is absolutely no question that she used drugs. Her improvement was sudden, she retired just before mass drug testing was to be instituted, and she died at 38. There is no controversy around it among reasonable people, because we absolutely know without question she used drugs.
Totally!!!!!
@@cuthbertallgood7781 Again, unfounded claims.
We Jamaicans have no doubt whatsoever that SFP can and will smash that world record because she has all that it takes. We stand with you pocket rocket. #OneLove🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I Love SFP, and believe it or not her leg speed is faster in certain parts of the 100 meter race than Flo-Jo’s. What Flo-jo has over SFP is excellent technique through relaxation and maintenance of speed at the top end. Flo-Jo’s advantage is the ability to run her own race throughout the 100m distance without focusing on the other competitors. The other difference is her height which produces the stride length which SFP unfortunately doesn’t have (now Elaine has the height that’s why with good technique plus the relaxation she came close to equalling the record but she’s then she’s inconsistent! But time will tell)
I love Shelly and will never doubt her but she and Elaine will have to fight it out. Elaine’s form is pretty close to that of Flo so it’s up for debate.
My non-Jamaican self will happily behind her country persons if allowed. I’m here for the greatness in athleticism and will not let my birthplace keep me from fully appreciating her talent. Break that record!
@@prestonmatthews725 Let’s not put too much pressure on poor SFP & Elaine T. The world is full of wonders and no one knows exactly what’s around the corner!! For all we know, there’s another Flo-jo (even better) brewing out of sight who will be unexpectedly faster, more dashing, a real fabulously good-looking Avatar-like Female athlete and more of a phenomenon than all these girls who are dominating now (who can predict the signs of the times??) Let’s face it Elaine & SFP are amazing athletes but they don’t have that ‘Show-stopping’ Star Quality that Flo-jo had (just by appearance) and the World needs to see that!! It’s been too long.
@@kojoharrison630 Flo Jo wasn't consistently great either before 1988 her PB was 10.49, Elaine doesn't have to be consistent she just has to be fast.
I remember the summer of 1988 so clearly and the reason behind that is Flo Jo. Her impact was immeasurable. I hope she’s at peace.
True brother I was a teen by that time here in Africa but I remember her very well she ruled that era in track and field
She’s at peace knowing she was juiced to the gills
@@patrickphokoane641 u have tv-s in africa??....cool
“I hope she’s at peace” - she’s dead 🤦♂️
@@Simon1985_ What do you think “ rest in peace “ stands for? My comment is an abbreviation. I actually find it a touch odd you’ve not heard it used in this way 🤷♂️
It’s so interesting that this is a video when boys in high school run this. I know it’s different, but it’s not like it’s so impossible, especially based on the steroids going down in the 80s crazy.
that also reminded me of the bolt run tbh. they were able to keep the pace until the last bit of the race.
I believe the technology of breaking down the race to determine what areas need improvement I guess is such that Shelly has within her reach the knowledge of how to achieve world record status. The question is whether or not she has enough time left for her body to continue to perform at such a level.
Flo Jo didn't even have a drive phase so there's nothing that Elaine or anybody else can do to break it unless they cheat.
@@ronald8792 WHAT WAS THE WIND SPEED?
@@wildoutrudeboy 2 mph coming directly at her.
Knowing what needs improvement doesn't mean you CAN improve or everybody would be breaking a world record.
@@aldopedroso6212 Well said Aldo
I would definitely love to see that and i think she has a good chance of doing it. Last year 2 of her races showed that Shelly is capable of running 10.5; In Monaco she ran 10.62 with +0.4 and in Zurich she ran 10.65 wind a headwind of almost 1m/s.
Elaine has ran faster than Shelly, but her inconsistency is what i think will prevent her to break the WR. While Shelly showed that she can run 10.6 in back to back seasons, Elaine couldn't even get close to what she ran last year.
Love this analysis. Elaine’s form is pretty similar to that of Flojo. If she is to be consistent then we are in for a treat.
@@prestonmatthews725 Yes agreed. If she can stay injury free and consistent, she definitely has a chance to break that WR.
@@prestonmatthews725 Flo Jo has only ran sub-11 ten times throughout her career. Elaine doesn't have to be consistent, she just needs to be fast.
All you're talking about is consistency ignoring the fact that Flo Jo was not consistently great in any sense of the word. She literally has only one great season which was 1988, she's only ever ran sub-11 a total of 10 times in comparison to Shelly-Ann's 75 times.
Honestly speaking; I think deep down we all know that Elaine is the only woman right now that has 10.4 in her legs. Shelly's leg stride frequency is arguably the fastest of any woman in history, and she almost pulled her hamstring trying to get in the 10.5 range. Elaine is the best bet of the 100m World Record broken (unless you want to count DSD athletes like Mboma). Elaine doesn't have to run sub-11 a hundred times to break the record all she needs is one great season....if Olympic Elaine is unleashed again in any season; it's curtains for the rest of the world.
Note: I forgot to mention that Elaine has been dealing with achilles and a shoulder injury this season which is why she didn't ran as fast as she could.
@@augustusfreeman4032 Where did you got that tale from she injured her hamstring she didnot just aoar from running multiple races that is in your bias mind only Elaine is capable There is no 10:40 in her legs l am sure you said the same thing about the 200m Shericka will go lower in the 200m Elaine was not injured whenever she looses she make excuses she herself said she was Ok
I would have loved that step frequency chart for Fraser-price and Thompson-Harah overlayed in comparison. 3:04
Flo Jo's greatness is proven by the fact that her world records still stand after more than 35 years. The men's 100 and 200 meter world records from 35 years ago have already been broken several times. If she used performance enhancing drugs, if not, what are her records, she is definitely the greatest sprinter in the world.
Let's add, no one has ever proven the accusations.
In 35 years, athletics, nutrition science, and the design of running shoes have developed a lot, but she is still the greatest. All credit goes to Flo Jo for the best running performance in the world.
I don't see it happening. It's such a shame that the women's 100, 200, 400, 800 and 1500 WRs are still under a cloud after decades. We must never get complacent. A good few years back I can remember rejoicing about the raw natural speed of Marion Jones, and then along came the THG scandal. It's going to take a once in a generation freak to do it and we may have to wait a while. Look where the women's triple jump WR is now as a result of somebody with enormous natural talent, has worked at her technique, eg to make a longer step phase, and BANG: she's out of sight! And she is a freak of nature, just like Bolt and, in swimming, Phelps or the UK's Peaty.
especially the 800
If Mboma isn't banned soon, she's gonna shatter both the 100m and 200m records.
DSD Athletes aside: Give a fit Elaine and Shericka some time and watch the magic happen.
I hope that 100-1500 all go down. 100-800 are all from the roidal era. 1500 also has some question marks, plus I love Kipyegon and hope she can finally do it. She's so close. I think that Athing Mu has a chance at the 800. I think this was an awkward transitional year for her, and she seemed like she was afraid of losing, got sick, etc. She's still only 20. Judging from how she looked in 2021, I think she can get down below Pamela Jelimo's 154.01 if she has a decent year and manages to maximiz her potential, and then she can start going after those crazy 80s records.
The 400m record suddenly looks vulnerable with the news that Sydney McLaughlin will be going after it. Salwa Eid Naser will also be coming back, but we don't know if her 48.11 was PED aided in the first place, or if she'll be able to get back to where she was.
There is no reason for the women's 100 and 200 meters records to be under a cloud. Flo Jo was tested constantly and was found to be clean of all PEDs every time, even after death. Now if you are talking about non women holding women's records that is problem.
@@augustusfreeman4032 I tend to agree about Mboma. When she appeared and it became clear that she was DSD, the apparently arbitrary event limit post Catser Semenya was immediately looking too weak. After all, both sprints favour explosive and sustained power. Maybe the medics should test fro speed endurance advantages over the springs too......
In the world record run, how did the other athletes do on their times compared to past races? You can say she had the wind advantage, but she smoked the rest of the field. If there was a wind advantage, the whole group would have great times.
That is an eye opener fact!
I read sometime, that some of the other athletes run PB in this race. (I did not checkes if its true)
She's was the only one on drugs.
@@Tom-xh8yj .....When you have no evidence to back your claim and she wasn't caught for doping, then it's unfair to label her a drug cheat. Remember, evidence is key. Propaganda, witch hunting and framing an individual because of suspicious media report help no one. Michael Johnson in his days, despite his staccato running style, lost several races, broke and set records. He wasn't labelled a cheat. It's not a perfect world and the rule is you are innocent until proven guilty. Take good care for now.
I believe the majority of the field had run improved times as well.
Sherika is knocking on the door! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
This is a bogus record, as the wind blowing directly behind the runners was way over the legal limit.
Spectators and commentators at the time commented on the gusting winds and fast times.
The wind equipment had readings showing the breeze was considerably over the limit, both before and after the race, but it malfunctioned during the race itself. This was not uncommon in the 80s and has improved markedly since.
It has been largely accepted by the track community that FloJo got a break with the equipment issue and that the resulting women's 100m record was wind-aided.
Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce is saying the exact same thing that Florence Griffith Joyner said in her interviews when asked what was the secret to running so fast ? Along with proper running form she would always say relaxation is the key.
yeah and PEDS.
@@xpat73 only the clueless to proper sprinting mechanics and relaxation speak as you do. 🤔
I'm beginning to suspect that "relaxation" is a euphemism for drugs. There's basically no way that a sprinter can go even faster after 65 metres than they did at 40-60m. It's very hard to maintain top speed as muscles get tired... Unless you're on drugs.
@@tazaman2009 Are you saying she was clean lol?
@@xpat73 yes I'm saying she was clean. You'd have to be blind to look at her sprinting form compared to the other women in the race and not see Florence Griffith-Joyner's sprinting mechanics are far superior then her competitors.
If Shelly or Elaine are to break this record it will require near perfect weather conditions plus a increase in their speed endurance but I fear it may too late in Shelly’s career for such improvement.
Not saying she can break it or not, but Shelly has the best chance of breaking the record currently.
Shelly-Ann is already a great; for her longevity, consistency and beautiful technique. Unfortunately, she's physically a tad too small to take the record from the unique Flo-Jo, who has been unfairly vilified ever since. Flo-Jo's technique is what made her fast, not wind or substances and she competed in a games where drug cheats were being caught en mass. She remained clean. That's irrelevant. It's no coincidence that Elaine and Shelly-Ann both study Flo-Jo's running technique and seek to draw from it. Drugs don't give you technique. Give it up .....
@@SearchBucket2 they weren't testing like that until just before she retired. Go look it up.
@@trackgrad08 Out of season no, but Ben Johnson and many others tested positive for steroids at that games. Your claim is a non sequitur btw.
It's clear technique was the secret of Flo-Jo's speed, not "muscles". That's why she was called "Flo Jo". The modern top women sprinters try to copy her. You can gripe all you like, there is NO evidence she won by anything other than fair means. Contemporary athletes don't have a right of way to hold records. Sometimes the best have been and gone. The men's high jump and triple jump records are "ancient". Going forward more and more records will stand unmatched. I don't need to look it up, I watched and followed athletics and those games live. Get over it ...
Shelly? ETH already came the closest with 10.54, however I think Tina Clayton will break it and Mboma will break the 200m record.
You can't compare splits with other runners. It is an extremely short race and what's going on in the mind of the runner in those final 20 meters on that day can change times drastically. The fact that Pryce is older, she can easily let the gas pedal go in the last 20m if she feels the race is secured. Hence the slower time in the last 20m.
Flo Jo was gliding on that track with her long legs. Her technique, talent, and form was unmatched. There are some extremely talented sprinters out there but none like Flo Jo.
She used PEDs, so she is a cheater.
Newsflash: she was using dope
Stop trying to tarnish this woman’s legacy with your unfounded accusations and propaganda. She was an Olympic star and no drug use was ever found or proven. Her exceptionalism is beyond your comprehension. Just be thankful you were able to behold her greatness in your lifetime.
@@mysteryof7 The rumors linking Griffith-Joyner to drugs are not at all unfounded. In the year leading up to the 1988 Olympics, her body underwent a conversion as if in the hands of a sculptor.
In 1987, she looked like a normal woman athlete; by the following year, almost miraculously, her body was strong and rippling. In her tight designer leggings and long brightly painted fingernails, she was like an aerodynamic racing car.
Ben Johnson was stripped of his gold medal and 100-meter world record after testing positive in the 1988 Olympics at Seoul.
Flo-Jo went out much more quietly. Her retirement was an unfathomable decision. Griffith-Joyner, at 28, her athletic peak, vanished from professional competition.
Jean-Pierre de Mondenard, a French sports doctor and drug expert, described Griffith-Joyner's breath-taking muscular development before the 1988 Olympics as "humanly impossible."
Griffith-Joyner will probably remain as controversial in death as she was in the most brilliant moments of her life.
@@mysteryof7 It's asinine to think she was legitimate, lots track field stars of the 80's and 90's have been found to be using PED's, it took a long time for testing to catchup to the sophistication of doping during that time, I not denying her athletic ability and if I'm honest I still think she would've been a champion but there's no way she was clean especially if you look into her performances prior to 88, her improvement in performance was staggering almost .6 or .7 seconds, even today with our knowledge of physiology, biology, and diet, to get that sort of gain from an already established world class athlete is impossible. Track and field is competition at its most basic all improvements are in technique are down to the physical and biological attributes of the athlete, all equipment is tightly regulated and any changes are generally very rare so it's all about picking the right person for the discipline as it's all too important not to. Joiner was a great athlete, not denying it, but she wasn't clean.
"The ONLY World Record that nobody can break?" Javier Sotomayor's World Record for the Men's High Jump has stood at 8 feet and 1/4 inch since 1993, and despite the advances in shoes, equipment, training surfaces, and nutrition, no one has even come close to breaking it.
No one will!!
You forgot the one for Daniel komen!!
@@imutimwiti7606 Good call, no one will break that one also
Both the Womens 400m World Record and Womens 800,m World Record have stood for longer than Flo=Jo's. The were set by 400, Marita Koch (GDR) in 1983 and 800m Ludmila Kratochvilova (CZE)1985, and yes as you can see they are both Eastern European athletes.
@@stevored1989 All of your statements are correct, my friend, but in my opinion, Koch's WR in the women's flat 400m has a reasonable chance of being surpassed within the next few years. The women's 800m and Sotomayor's men's high jump WR's will both probably take much longer.
Thanks for the video upload. In my estimation, SAFP is still the GOAT in women's sprinting (W100 meter). Why? She has been the most consistent in the shorter sprint, with the most 10.7 or lower times. And has the most number of victories in World Championships and the Olympics.
I'll go with Thompson-Herah
Are the track surfaces the same from 1988 to 2023? Have they been improved to produce faster times?
No and Yes.
Flo Jos technique and last 40 were and remain unmatched. Her lean figure also aided her in her win. It looked easier for her to run than it does Fraser-Pryce. What an amazing record to hold this long. Imagine the day someone breaks it!!!
That strong masculine jaw line did wonders for her aerodynamics.
I honestly think that Flo Jo’s WR times were…. “Pharmacologically” assisted. I therefore see Shelly Ann Fraser and Thompson as the top female sprinters in track history.
Yea sure, and Katrin Krabbe
Of course but she was no more enhanced than anybody else
@@HkFinn83 yes, she was much more enhanced than today's athletes and than most of her contemporaries. Athletes that new her noticed strange things about her and the changes in her body from one year to the next.
Well she died for it…destroyed herself
It's obvious she was enhanced chemically...allegedly
Flo Jo had such a beautiful technique.
drugs
The mens javelin WR has stood since 1996, so it shows that records can last for decades. Bob Beamon’s long jump also stood for a long time. The only sad part was Flo Jo’s passing at such a young age.
Different piece of equipment: they changed the design so that it could not be thrown so far. Totally different set of circumstances.
That was the old javelin. They changed its design as they were throwing it out of the field. It's impossible to break that record with the new javelin
@@jonesnax Wrong, the javelin hasn't been redesigned since 1986, 10 years before the current world record from 1996
Drugs caught up with her
I remember the Olympics before her times exploded she was just an also-ran-she had been training for many years at that stage-how do you think she found such an astonishing improvement ?
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@@troy8613Evidence?👀
Best statisticians in the world have Elaine at 6.87/3.67 in 10.54 (PJ Vazel, LR Jeffrey, and Speed Analysis Channel).. Shelly 6.81 in Doha rather than 6.82.. and 3.79 60-100m is her fastest from Lausanne 10.60.. Athletefirst has been a great database but there are many errors there and inclusion of USATF splits which are pretty much denounced
Thank you for this comment. I looked throughout the website for sources and they did cite PJ as well as Brüggemann from the 90's, Ferro from the early 2000's, and Takashi from the 2010's, but there was never any mention of sources being measured incorrectly. It's very dense information with certain races having different and sometimes "better" measuring equipment than others it appears, so I'll make sure to mention all of that in the description. Thanks for the information and thanks for watching
@@TotalRunningProductions I enjoy the videos. You can only go on the data you find of course.
The length of Flo-Jo’s stride in the last part of the race, along with her turnover, is otherworldly. No other woman runs like that.
No other woman can runs with + 5 m/s wind assist
Stride length was unbelievable. With such a stride it's easy to see that her start would not be the best, but there was no way she wasn't running away from the field at the end. Like Secretariat, "ordinary" start, incredible finish. I did not follow her after her career was over. But I just now Googled it and when I found out how she passed, I cried. It 's so damned wrong..
@@artartek7854 so it pushed her 10.49? You never ran track before obviously 😂😂😂😂
Drugs don't produce this. It was a Beamon-esque day.
Elaine Thompson has great stride length. I think that's the part that's most tricky. Shelly's compact stride + top end speed, vs Elaine's long stride + top end. That said, I don't think Flo Jo's record is carved in stone anymore. One of these ladies, or maybe Sherika Jackson will break it.
I haven’t seen comments on her right leg covering.
Is it feasable that it would reduce friction in her strides?
Combined with her perfect technique, it could have given a tiny bit extra.
Q: How much dope do you want?
A: Yes
Would be interesting to break down the other athlete's performances in Flo-Jo's record race. Were there any huge PRs? If the wind really was +4.0 m/s or even higher you'd expect some of the field to run the fastest race of their career or to atleast PR.
Agree
Agree why didn’t the video compare other runners in Jo’s race. There is no evidence she was a cheat other than envy.
Actually thats what happened. Most of the athletes made PRs that day because of the wind: www.brunel.ac.uk/~spstnpl/Publications/IAAFReport(Linthorne).pdf
@@ochoymedio78 Name them and the amounts in her heat, beside that a lot of people set PB's and PR's at the Olympic Trials they train all year to peak at that meet.
@@phoebus Don;t be lazy, Page 47. The runners of quaters I and II did ALL PERSONAL BESTS for that year 1988 (Olympic year). That means they ALL outperformed their times of semis and finals. ALL. And most did their PR, like Williams 10.86, Echols 10.83 and Brown 10.92. Do you want to be right or get some knowledge?
Read the paper, is fascinating and conclusive.
If you look in the background of FloJo's race you see the long jump approach and pit, like a couple minutes before the race and another minute or so after the wind at the long jump was +4 and +5 and FloJo recorded her race at 0.0 (the only event during the whole track meet to register 0) and study was done and it was determined scientifically that the wind was probably at +4 to+5 at the time and that is not even saying anything about PEDs. So unless someone gets a chance in perfect conditions a +1.9 and everything else perfect you are right the odds are pretty long that the record gets broken.
This, exactly.
Well, Elaine Thompson did 10.54 under legal conditions...so can't say it's impossible.
@@grobin3745 Elaine is the only active woman who can break it Shelly is too short and Shericka start is too horrible for the 100m.
If Mboma isn't banned soon, she will shatter both the 100m and 200m records.
DSD Athletes aside: Give a fit Elaine and Shericka some time and watch the magic happen.
The 10.62s of Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce of this year was into a headwind, with +2.0m/s she might have broken the World Record.
I am not an athlete at all but I want to say that Flo Jo's style is just marvellous. Such elegant long strides!
If you do something great, you must expect people to think you cheated, because it will look abnormal.
I like the constant allegations of drug use about FloJo but nothing is mentioned about Frazier’s impossible speed elevation in her mid 30s. It’s laughable to think these athletes are drug free.
Testing is far better now than 40 years ago, ofc we're gonna trust being drug free in this era vs flojo
She’s using performance engineering drugs.
Didn't even have out of competition testing then. When it was implemented she retired promptly
Agreed but that's not the question here
FloJo cheated - "but so do other people"
I would love to see it but watching FloJo's performance, it looks impossible.
Joyner died at only 38. She had epilepsy and died in her sleep from suffocation in 1998.
Flo-Jo was tested, retested, then tested again in '88, then her blood samples were tested decades later using modern tests, and she her blood was clean. She was just perfect. Starr testing Abby Steiner.
She did roids.
It would have been easy for Flo-Jo to avoid detection if she stopped taking before the race, because they weren't doing random testing through out the year like they now do. The fact that Flo-Jo suddenly became so good at the age of 28 and then she quickly retired after that indicates to me that she was probably cheating. It is very odd to see that much improvement at a time when most sprinters have already passed their peak, especially when she wasn't that good at age 24.
Flo Jo was a definition of elegance,speed and beauty in 1988 and beyond.
She was a monstrous thing, not elegant, not beautiful and a total cheat. Cost her her life.
Definition of the price you pay for abusing your body.
@@chalkandcheese1868 WTF?
@@ronniejohnson196 roids
@@chalkandcheese1868 You got them huh? Sit on a pillow then.
Running 10:60 or faster is so rare, that it's possible that the woman to break Flo Jo's record hasn't been born yet.
correct!! a mathematical statistical azimtote... the number will exceed the number of people on earth ...8 billion...
Super dope record!
@todd
Yes, always was amazed at how Flo Jo’s feet just barely touched the surface as she ran!!👀
I've got minimal knowledge on sprinting and the history of it, but Flojo's incredible top speed seems to be coming from her long strides and endurance - similar to Usain Bolt. I think Shelly-Ann is at a serious disadvantage just due to the height difference. But for a top level athlete to be winning events and somehow STILL be improving just proves there are still adjustments to be made. It's fun to watch them compete
To add to your minimal knowledge, the incredible speed comes from drugs which give her "long stride and incredible endurance."
Jeremy king put some respect on her name it's Dr Shelly Ann u mumah never tech u if u naw nothing good fi say shut yu Mouth Bway
You think the worlds fastest woman is at a major disadvantage physically? Man, people are stupid.
Give someone 3 meter long legs and see how fast they start. Swings and roundabout you mongaloid.....thousands of factors come into play and you have diluted it down to height. # go home
@@aldopedroso6212and a greatly reduced lifespan.
@@aldopedroso6212 It depends on the drugs. Drugs that will enhance an athletes strength and power (which contributes to an increase in stride length), would/could not increase anaerobic endurance as well. Those are the two different types of drugs.
As a Jamaican, the one thing I see Flo Jo and Usain Bolt have in common is HEIGHT ..that to me helps with a much longer stride than say of SFP 5ft stature. That's why I think what SFP has accomplished to date is remarkable.
In swimming the rule is the rule is maximum speed is proportional to the square root of height.
@WendyPendy26 FloJo wasnt tall
@@christiansoldier77 just so you know the average height for a female sprinter is 5ft 2 to 5ft 5. Flo Jo was 5ft 7. Not tall by your standards but by sprinting standards
@@WendyPendy26 the average height for a woman is 5'4" so no way is the average track star below that height so 5' 7" is not unusual
Significant number of women's world records have remained untouched since the 1980. The 800mtrs is even more unbreakable.
I just saw something that explains her time. At around 50 meters FloJo's stride lengthened until the 85 meter mark then shortened to the finish. That's what kept her speed even.
She came out of relative middle-of-the-pack status, suddenly exploded in 1988 shattering records in a sport where records are normally moved in microscopic increments, with preternatural muscularity, then faded quickly and died young. Hmmm. "How could that have happened." Pretty much only one explanation.
Only if you believe that no elite sprinter has ever taken PEDs, since. Otherwise, the record would have been broken long before now, especially given all the other advancements in equipment, track surfacing, training, nutrition etc.
@@petewest3122 the mid-late 1980's, into the 1990's (plus or minus), was sort of the heyday of PED's. Balco and its peers were one-step-aheading testing technology. Athletes faced a "use or die" environment. Lance Armstrong is possibly the highest profile example. Records in the 100m don't get shattered like FloJo shattered them. Simply doesn't happen. Unless there is some non-human element to the performance, such as PEDs.
@@TheZipeedoo Usain Bolt took 0.16s off the previous 100m world record in the space of 1 year. And there's no comparison between 2009 men's and 1988 women's 100m in terms of over all competitiveness and standard.
@@petewest3122 FloJo's record was nearly 1/2 second faster than her previous PR. She retired from running on the eve of the institution of mandatory random testing in track & field.
@@TheZipeedoo 0.4s is a massive PR, no doubt. Sometimes everything just comes together for an athlete. Just look at Bob Beaman or Kevin Young.
I'm not saying that Flojo was 100% natural, only that steroids weren't the definitive factor in her WR. Even after 34 years, no one has matched Flojo's near flawless running technique, and that's something that doesn't come from taking PEDs.
It's like when Jonathon Edwards jumped 18.29m. He wasn't the most powerfully built jumper, but on that day he achieved near perfection in energy transferal. Flojo achieved something similar on the track.
Was the wind only gusting in lane 4?
Cool video. Too bad you could not find music to play in the background.
10.47 will be her record, but it won’t last long because one of her Jamaican teammates will break it within 5 years of her breaking it.
As great as Shelly is she's not getting anywhere near that at this stage in her career
It was the transformation on her strength and speed over a short period of time later on her career that was the most deeply, deeply suspicious thing.
I and many others believe she was juiced. It matters not. She died many years ago.
We can all debate the obvious stuff, but you can't argue against the technique - it's pretty incredible, so fluid
Off course is hard to beat Flo Jo 1988 records , since 1989, growth hormone can be detected in anti-doping tests. , coincidentally, he retired from professional competition a month before the tests began.