Mark Gatiss learns about discrimination against his Irish ancestors...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2023
- Mark travels to Ireland, where he untangles a tale of rags to riches and descrimination.
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Co. "Londonderry" he didnt learn much on this journey of dicovery...😂
That's exactly what I thought too.
He’s also not vegan so agreed
Step one alienate the entire nation.
😂😂😂😂
There is no county londonderry only County Derry
The suffering endured by the Irish and the lies and propaganda heaped on them by the English is quite extrodinary and what is more surprising is the absolute ignorance if the english on the matter.
Before the creation of “communists”, the spirit worked through Cromwell.
Eh the county is called Co. Derry, there's no controversy around the name of the county, it's only the city that goes by both Derry and Londonderry depending on who you ask.
I recently found my grandfather came to America in 1873. He was described as a 5 year old Irish mulatto from London. Still shaking my head 🎉
Mulatto 🤦🏼♀️
Londonderry has 6 silent letters.
And dont blame the irish for what the jacobites did , i wish that freaking battle was conducted on the shores it belonged to , if there was irish envolved in the seige of derry it was because we were dragged into it by an idiotic scot ..irish town names dont necessarily need to be anglicised ...
Deep sigh when this guy said he was heading to County 'LondonDerry'
Easy to explain how his ancestor increased his land- 1845 to 1850 Great Potato Famine. The potato was the main food of poor Catholic land leasers and holders until a fungus wiped out the potato crop across these years. Many died, many fled to America, Britain etc. Those who remained often had to sell their holdings and also wealth British landlords also sold up once they were forced to look after their tenants by government acts (because why would the British government care about their Irish citizens). The son probably bought out this land at reduced rates and, if you want to be generous, looked after the people who were left. Or maybe he was just an opportunistic vulture grabbing land that was depopulated by starvation. Who is to know? Am surprised at the historian, that he did not make the connection. Then again,this is just speculation.
“It’s sort of like Highland Clearances!” Yes. If bum”sort of” you mean with far more death.
Co Londonderry, seriously...even us Scousers call it by one word, it's Derry....end of.
Who cares? You scousers probably nicked the London part. The Irish will never move on and will always play the victim of what happened. Prob blame the English for Bobby Sands.
Thank you Liverpool ☘️🇮🇪🇪🇺
My family (Farrell’s) left Slieveroe in Frenchpark, Roscommon,Southern Ireland 🇮🇪 in 1870. Emigrated to Widnes, Lancashire England 🏴 and to this day 2023 the family still live in Widnes that’s now in Cheshire. And also the Farrell family, still live in Slieveroe Frenchpark today 2023.
Any relatives called Andy Farrell Owen Farrell Sean o'loughlin 😀
My family are also Farrell’s but from Co. Kildare
Republic of Ireland. There is no such thing as 'Southern Ireland'.
Thank you, I’ve been waiting for more of Mark’s journey.
It is Co.Derry with Derry City as the capital. Simple as that.
Johnroche Stroke City -Derry/ Londonderry !!!!!
DirraColumcille
County londonderry? Jaysus.
County Derry,end of.
There's the history you do not learn in school GB.
Tenants on their own land which was stolen with brute force
Ulster is still Ulster, it's a Provence of Ireland and doesn't represent all of Northern Ireland. City of Derry is in Co. Derry also. Shows like this which are about finding information should really do a small bit of fact checking before going out to air.
London Derry my hole
Interesting stuff
it is not London derry it is Derry..
Jayzus County Londonderry ffs 😂
Derry ☘️🇮🇪🇪🇺
It's sort of like... Gaza and the West Bank.
County London derry are you joking like ffs
Mark Gattis is an absolute darlin'!
It's derry BTW check the maps
The Irish never forget and the English never remember m
It is unlikely anyone will forget what happened to their grandparents or great-grandparents. It is not just a national history, it is very personal and recent. Families are still living with the legacy of dispossession and impoverishment.
@@bunyip5841 oh give it a bloody rest.
@@sugarkane4830your touchy response suggests it needs to be said more often.
@@bunyip5841 Not at all my “touchy response” is because we are sick of hearing about it. The Irish are only happy when they are sad. And they certainly don’t have the monopoly of suffering.
@@sugarkane4830 You don't suppose the Irish aren't sick of the old saws like 'only happy when they are sad' or long memories etc? Never claimed a monopoly on suffering. From Canada to the Caribbean, Ireland to Africa, Asia, Australia and NZ, and even to the poor of Britain, the Empire on which the sun never set brought a lot of suffering to a lot of people and they won't be silenced anymore. You know what really baffles me is why you could be bothered defending a few obscenely wealthy people who didn't care whether you lived or died. The poor of Britain didn't benefit from the Empire, did they?
Plantation 3:35 of Ulster.
Livery, remove, eradicate, etc.
Lachamoor mountain,
The son clearly bought the land after the great hunger and the land was sold off at cheaper rates
200 kjngs and every man a king in his home. So much better than one king
Well that’s ironic/hypocritical even…
I am learning about the discrimination of English people. All big estates are the result of theft.
And?
Give Ireland back to the Irish
gatiss,you sound like a brit.
He is.
He obviously is. Doesn't even have the sense to refer to Co.Derry by its proper name. His ancestors would be so proud of him.
The way its goin in Ireland, these days it will soon be County Dehli.
County Londonderry 🙈😂
Co Londonderry he says. Clown
21.12.23.
Who is this guy ? FFS get someone famous on !
That's why to this day the Irish don't like Britishness incidentally the obsequiousness of the historian is nauseating. Academics?
LONDONDERRY ???? There is no such place.
Anything about Irish slavers raiding Britain or anti Saxon discrimination under the Normans?
Oh
How surprising!
Or discrimination against S Irish volunteers after returning home from WW2 regarding housing and jobs?
Thought not..........
Did he just say Londonderry 🤔😡😡
Israel and Palestine again
What’s being done to the ‘native Irish’ today? 😮
According to the Irish government today Ireland should have open borders & the term ‘native Irish’ is a bad word.
So what was the problem with the Ulster Plantation in the 17th & 18th centuries? It was all about embracing diversity.
Nonsense
You’re right the Ulster Plantation did enormous good. Land was given to these poor immigrants. It created a more diverse culture, instead of the native Irish monoculture that existed before. 😊
@@thomasreilly6362no, he's spot on Thomas. This a new Plantation. Drastic change in the islands demographics against the will of the people. The last Plantation led to a bitter division.
Well if you vote for Sinn Fein who support open borders and mass immigration, then that’s what you are going to get.
@@barra6709 No its not, Irelands second language is Polish and has been for 20+years. Ireland is not anyone's final destination. Some will stay but most will leave. Ireland is an acquired taste like many small countries in Europe. You either get it or you don't.
Who are these ‘native Irish’?
They’re a mixture of Gaels - originally themselves invaders from Spain - & descendants of Vikings, Normans, English etc.
As a descendant of Ulster Scot planters we were constantly told we were not Irish, we were foreign usurpers. We didn’t belong. Brits out!
Now today we are told immigrants from any where in the world are as entitled to be here as anyone & to receive housing & benefits.
So what was all that nonsense about planters being unwelcome?😮😮
You understand there is a difference between immigrants being invited to fill jobs we won't do and an invasion ( .ie forced plantation). 😂. Nobody is saying you are not Irish except yourselves.
One key difference, immigrants coming here nowadays are not trying to dominate the native population, forcing us to lose our language, customs, culture, forcing us to lose our irishness to be english! U wave a foreign English flag on our island, u are marking territory and still trying in your own way to dominate the locals.... its simple really, when u start respecting the natives, u will get respect back!!! Knowing yer mentality ghats not likely to happen is it planter??
Well, probably because you always put the British identity before the Irish if you do identify as Irish at all and wave a foreign flag.
I mean there was plenty of Protestant, Ulster Scots that solely identified as Irish, like the founders of the Society of United Irishmen.
The genetic profile of Irishmen was established in the Bronze Age.
The loyalist community themselves are the most vocal in claiming that they are not Irish. Pretty much everyone else in Ireland knows they are Irish and would be happy if they realised that they could be part of a United Ireland.
He didn't learn that the six silent letters in the English language word for Londonderry were "London". London has eff all to do vwith it except when colonised by the Sassanachs. Did he learn about the land taken by the londoners for their London Derry, from Donegal on the other side of the River Foyle.