Bro i never knew Psychogenic Aphonia is a thing, just searched about it, apparently it can happen quite suddenly, and also has a predominance in women. Learn something new everyday. Wishing the best for Iroha.
@@salmanrasyid5799 From what i read, it's similar but not the same to the fear-induced inability to speak. For Psychogenic Aphonia, the person afflicted might not even feel anything weird or wrong. It's similar to how one might be depressed but not realize it themselves. Then again, i can be wrong, i just read what i can find. If someone finds that i am wrong, please correct me.
If "psychogenic aphonia" is just another term for "functional aphonia", then I experience the same thing. Nothing is physically wrong with the mouth nor brain, but some part of the brain processing for speech isn't working properly. You can feel completely normal but still can't speak. Each person's experience is different, but when she tries to speak it's possible her mouth doesn't move at all or her jaw becomes very tense instead.
Can (sadly) confirm, the translation is accurate. She wrote 己が弱い ("I am weak"), with the lower statement, next to the arrow being これです (literally "it's this"). "It's because I'm weak" is a reasonable translation.
I'm hoping that 弱い doesn't have as much baggage as "weak" does in English, and that she means "In this moment, I happen to be in a weakened physical state" rather than "I am an inherently weak person"
@@sus_gus The word itself is pretty much the same in both languages, and carries the same implications (i.e. physical, emotional, and personal "weakness" all use 弱い ). That said, Japanese is pretty context-heavy, so it could be interpreted in a few different ways. She could have meant it as, "I have a weak physical constitution and am therefore prone to illness like this". She also could have meant it as, "I do not have the personal strength that I should." That said, taking personal responsibility for things - even things that are not really your fault - is very normal in Japan, so saying that you're a weak person is not necessarily as much of a red flag as it would be in the west.
@@sus_gusIt is heartbreaking that her meaning is actually closer to the letter😢 Iroha chan is a shy, kindhearted girl that always takes responsibility upon herself. The recent matter, her family, 1M subscribers goal, Chloe’s graduation, much really exhausted her😢 Hope her can take a good rest and recover herself.
For those who don't know, Iroha also had a family emergency not to long ago where she suddenly had to take a week or so off. A family emergency and a genmate graduating happening in such a short period, can only the mental stress she's been having.
Yes but not because she wasn't streaming that doesn't mean she was resting. Clearly she is over stressed and needs more time to recover. Imagine a runner couldn't be part of a sport event because they had to run to do other things, the runner is still going to be tired. Iroha's body is reacting that she is very stressed and tired either from streaming or personal matters, it clearly means she needs to slow down.
Poor girl probably feels so much extra pressire with all the recent departures. It's definitely an indirect even if inadvertent consequence from all the recent drama.
1:00 I just looked that thing up and it’s pretty interesting…what I saw said the voice comes out in strained whispers but the cough and laugh are usually normal…
Stress-induced ailments are rough. The most I've dealt with is not being able to finish a yawn and thus not being able to sleep. I can't imagine how much stress she must be carrying.
@@illuminati955 what ultimately solved it for me is to acknowledge what's making me anxious and then get it over with. Before I could do that tho, just being aware that stress and anxiety are the ones causing it helped me relax more. That's my limited experience with it. Wishing you all the best!
Honestly, it hits me like a truck. I just discovered this health issue with her and I was really sad when she said "because I'm weak." But no, Iroha, you aren't weak, everybody knows that all of you works very hard everyday and you could have just canceled your stream to heal yourself but you still had the strength to come and do a written stream. It's not weakness, it's proof that you're strengh.
Lets just say that she being too kind and blaming everything on herself is the main reason for this issue. And the short hair look is the cutest thing in the world.
I've been slowly learning to read Japanese, but man I could never see myself writing it by hand. Typing it on my phone is troublesome enough, lmao. I'm suprised places like Japan don't have a carpal tunnel epidemic.
@@GoodOleDFT I don't believe you, or rather, regardles of what I believe, you are objectively wrong. Hiragana and Katakana are already more effort than the English Alphabet, but then you get into Kanji and now you're doing nearly a whole word's worth of strokes for what could amount to a syllable that is already covered by Hiragana anyways.
@@flackenstien The cultural protagonism of yours shows like a nova on a telescope. And you talk with a lot of pose for someone that has zero practice in the matter. Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? For someone that says Kanji is unnecessary because kana would already cover them in writing, the key points should resonate with you. You remind me of university students that fail at using a simple keyboard from having grown with touchscreen typing...
On a serious note, I am impressed our nin nin is able to write all those kanji by hand. Its easy to input romaji into the keyboard and the computer just select the right kanji. Handwriting it also shows sincerity. Hope she gets well soon. her new outfit and hairstyle is beautiful
Iroha is a sweatheart. I hope she recovers thoroughly. We need to normalize no-talking streams anyways, as vtubers, especially those in groups like Hololive who do idol work, need time to rest their voice.
@DaimonAnimations Well, yes, but stuff like this can happen without being pushed to an extreme. Stress disorders aren't really measurable and are different for everyone. I agree that they should take breaks more often, but sometimes this stuff just happens. She may also have external factors or a predisposition leading to this outcome.
@@flackenstien Totally, I agree with you, still stress is clearly coming too from Cover, which is the reason why Aqua decided to step down and now Chloe too. Even Laplus added to the conversation that it has indeed increased the workload for them to the point that sometimes even if they are tired they have to push through, and that's with out adding, dealing with haters and antis just like what happened to Aqua for a long time and to Coco and / or more recently to Korone. Again, I'm not blaming Cover or accusing anyone but their jobs are def, increasing a demand and we know that Japan has a history of overwork too, I just hope Cover starts to put a little bit less of pressure on the girls.
It's definitely not because she's weak - she isn't. What the fuck is happening at Cover? 4 talents graduate in rapid succession, all of them because they disagree with the company direction and because the workload has been too much for them, leading to health issues for a lot of them. Most talents have been complaining about being exhausted and tired this year, far more so than normal. Now Gozaru is so stressed out she got fucking psychogenic aphonia? Do ya'll realize how serious of an issue that is? The IPO was a mistake. Cover should've never gone public.
i think because After A chan leaving, their only source of confort is gone, like A chan is the one who prefented talent graduating, like Suisei...but remember that Fubuki said She will leave Hololive If They Did Something Bad, so for me as long fubuki didnt graduate its still fine, but not that fine either
ya theres definitely smth going on i hate when ppl choose to be ignorant about stuff like this. i feel so bad for the talents who are pushed to this kind of state...
@@KerryFoxxo While Fubuki does give me SOME peace of mind (as well as the knowledge of how they did everything in their power to support Nenechi during her struggles), she's neither omnipresent nor omniscient - bad things CAN happen without her knowledge. I just hope Yagoo has the foresight to nip it in the bud before too late.
I was almost going to make a joke about the fact that she at least has legible handwriting, but I don't really feel like joking about her condition or Chloe's graduation right now and just wish both of them the best.
Thanks for the translation clip. I can read the hiragana and understand a little but the writing and kanji really are out of my league yet. I hope Iroha's able to recover soon and I hope she didn't push herself too much especially during the HoloX weeks. I want my oshi to be healthy and cheerful like always✨. She always puts her viewers before herself, that's why I hope she will get well soon❤️
From what I read this sickness also can makes the patient can't talk for about two weeks to two years. It's really saddening and I hope her the best for her recovery
Wishing a speedy recovery. Some comments did say there's family stuff that seems quite intense on her side so I want to add this comment on to that if concerned people are scrolling. On the contrary, there are also people calling it on bad management and though I don't want to immediately deflect the idea, it is too early to pull the trigger now. We don't know for sure and it is very rash to call out now. At best, staying on alert is best on this topic I think. Most likely, we will never know the trigger of this, or it might be a mix of things, and it's even possible for people to not know why they get ill. It sucks, but try to not get too sucked in for now if this is draining your sanity. At the very least, prioritize your own health(mental health in this case) please.
Dude, I think how much stress this girls has to take, haters, graduations of friends, strict laws of company, many people think is easy , just see iroha "smile" face while the "irl" people inside there is crying and suffering, hurts a little
I'm worried about Cover and the girls workload... Several of them are just not streaming anymore cuz too much "homework" and they say they are tired on their x accounts... Cover's new direction might not be it for many of the girls and we are seeing the results with 3 graduations and 2 of them stating "management/view point disagreement". Maybe Cover is a soft "black company"? I hope it's not the case
Look, I understand being a streamer and entertainer isn't the hadest job in the world (unlike some streamers said) but a reminder that voice is one of the biggest asset for streamers and Vtubers, especially the one working with corpo.
Having a similar condition, (though it doesn’t last nearly as long) I can understand how frustrating this can be. I just hope she’s getting a ton of love and support from those closest to her
Wow, I never knew that was a thing. That's terrible, poor old Iroha! I hope she gets better, shes very sweet. She must be going through a lot of stress at the moment, poor soul.
May all the affected HoloX member get well soon even to the sadly graduating Chloe... I hope Cover is doing something about this... Mental health issues has always been underestimated in healthcare around the world... It only has been getting more attention lately... Mental health affects the physical body quite strongly if underestimated.
What's worse is that Iroha's falling ill at the moment will make a lot of uninformed people think it's because she's working too hard at Hololive, when anyone who follows her knows that she's had to take time off a lot of times because of personal and family problems.
On the one hand, I kind like the idea of a Gozaru calligraphy stream, since it feels like the kind of thing she could do in general. Aside, everyone seems to be reacting way too strongly to it. She's had stressors for a while now, and the timing of all of this does suck but it's no one's fault. She wanted to celebrate with the fans and enjoy her anniversary. All this chatter is just gonna add more stress.
Iroha’s always cute but as someone who stayed up to watch her 3d Live as the stream was still titled, i wish she had changed the thumbnail or something, i could have gone to sleep earlier. i can’t read Japanese so 3D Live was literally all i could read 😅 hope she gets well soon, i swear i think Hololive is overworking these girls these days considering how many are either not streaming due to health or are just straight up quitting. i’m getting a little concerned.
Just believe in them, i know it's hard for the fans.. but yeah, the talent already said there's no one to blame. We don't know who accepts the jobs to make em like this (the talents/ manager/ someone higher? ) Just believe in them n give em some love is the best way we can do no need drama at all
Sometimes it's just difficult circumstance. As a hypothetical: You get someone coming to you saying they want HoloX for a project and you're one of the members with a lot on the plate already you're probably in a position where it'd be better if you turned it down, but you don't because you don't want to cause issues for the other 4 girls. The only thing that people should be doing in the end is listening to the talents. If they say don't spread rumors, don't blame anyone, etc then as a fan if you're not following their lead you're causing them problems.
1:46 is it bad that I think management has said this to her or have I just been reading too much twitter doom posts this weekend. wtf is cover doing to be letting her get like this in the first place.
I can't. This is too much. I don't even know what is hololive anymore. I ... I just can't. I quit. I don't want to engage with them anymore ... Goodbye forever, hololive ...
Hololive might be going down a bad hole honestly. So many influential members that carried a lot of JP and overseas viewerships are leaving and are all for a lot of the same reasons??? Now a lot of those members who left are now going indie??? Yea something's wrong here 🤔
I am aware of the company's growth. They have more work to do and must earn more money to keep the business going. But if they don't change their minds about part of their work and give their talents a break at least once a week, they will all dying
My goodness mental health awareness is so bad in Japan. The fact that she blames herself on being weak instead of accepting that her environment produced this response is crazy. There is no way its all on her.
@@cocoqtpi What truly astonishing is how the most mentally ill country in the world- who have elected old men with dementia to be president three times now- think they're so much better than everyone else.
Gozaru chan going through a lot of stress. I hope she can sit back and relax for some time until she fully recovers. She's been going through a lot.. She could have just typed it. But she really wanted to convey her words to us personally.
real talk, I can see the pattern of the graduation. It happen to talents that have been hiatus for a while and then suddenly getting mlittle bit more active in streaming... I wouldn't be surprised if Shion will graduate next year
Including Chloe, Hololive JP has only had 4 total graduations in it's 7 years of existence, of which 3 were members who were extremely close with Kanata & Shion: Coco, Aqua and now Chloe.. so I imagine both of them are not feeling that great atm
Isn't Hololive pushing it's talents a bit too much these days? 3 and now soon to be 4 graduations with a very short time in between. And all of those members except one hinting/outright stating that Hololive homework is the reason. Edit: Just found out Fauna's graduating too so that's 5 graduations. - Members taking long hiatus breaks some even taking two back to back like Gura. - All of the members talk about "homework" that they have to do even after streaming. And not in a positive way even though they take great pains to assure us that it's all voluntary. But more and more of the Holomems are stressed and facing health problems these days. I'd like to believe best girl Yagoo cares a lot about the people working under him. But all these cases of overworked physically suffering women in the company are sending bad vibes all around.
The way i see it. They need better support structures at this point. A Healthy Talent is something worth fighting for. Workloads need to be managed better as well. If you scale up your business: there will always be a lot of opportunities. 1. You hire more support. You let the talent focus on just doing what they do best, . 2. You start managing schedules with the intent of Project Managing the workloads and schedule in delegation to a specific administrative workforce.. 3. You re-evaluate your workflows and business processes with your talent in mind. Your talent is your lifeline. I'm sorry my brothers and sisters I'm just really frustrated, because what's happening is an effect of fire fighting what comes their way. and i've seen it all too well throughout my career in corporate structures with workloads never ending and sometimes these things break people stress i mean.
Yeah, I'm frustrated too and lash out at cover the moment the notice dropped. But after thinking it through, there is no reason to believe that they haven't done that, chloe also mentioned that her manager had been making adjustments to make sure she is fine, we also have stories of other talents like mumei when she was in JP and felt sick because she doesnt want to eat and staffs came in buying groceries for her. Graduation doesn't happen in a night, even if we assume cover is just another corporate, no corpo want one of their revenue source cut.
@@IrvineL1 Yeah i mean, for me i accept the graduation. What i don't accept is multiple talents getting sick being in and out of hospital, just earlier we can see it with Iroha with her silent stream. Clearly there is something wrong i prioritize their health and well being first and foremost. and that's something Cover should start working on.
There is no perfect business, things like that will always happen with any type of business structure. Lap+ just said last time that they are free to take workload as much as they want and this is aside from the mandatory workload which definitely related to idol work. Some of them definitely took more than what they can bite because let us face it they sometimes want to soar high, they want to reach the top quickly, they want to earn more and there are some people who are getting conscious and anxious seeing their genmates getting more numbers than them. Comparing this to the companies that ive been I can say that they are more aware and making adjustments for the talents.
I really hate these passive aggressive comments trying to blame the cover staff while under the guise of friendly nature and feedback. Time and time again, hololive talents have mentioned how easy it is for them to take much needed rests or breaks. They always make it clear that hololive and staff aren't to blame, and yet people still try to find a way to shift blame on them.
@@iDelayOnyeah it must've been particularly hard for her, holox is one of the gen with the most projects, and one of her genmates just graduated, it must've been a great mental toll for her. But like I mentioned before, multiple talents have come out on how particular staffs are with talents well being, so i just don't want to assume malice out of cover or anything like that, but i can see them oversighting something and I hope they can fix it
Best wishes and a sensible recovery for Iroha. Very considerate of her to stream just to not worry her fans even if she should be resting. Is it just me or as of recent this last year and a half Hololive has been plagued with their talent getting stressed out because of corporate pushing for talent to deliver on their obligations for work? It's almost as if corporate is the cause of the talents' stress demanding productivity so profits keep funneling into their account. It's like nearly every company really. Nearly all big companies are more interested in making huge profits rather than taking care of their talent (workers). That and all the red tape for permissions the talent has to deal with is too much. At this rate Hololive will end up where Nijisanji is at but via a different route. Nijisanji bled out talent. Hololive is suffering a slower internal bleeding of talent but the end effect is the same. Inevitably VTubers will end up going Indie all the way at this rate. There's nothing like being your own boss and setting your own schedule and responsibilities. The price for the benefits and perks of being a corporate VTuber seem to be too high now more than in the early age of VTubing.
PROTECT THIS GIRL AT ALL COST
Protect our captain!
Agreed.
"who bodyguards the bodyguard?" XD
We dont deserve Iroha
@@theonlymegumegu damn. Now i remember the scene in heroaka. Who's protecting the hero when they need it?
Bro i never knew Psychogenic Aphonia is a thing, just searched about it, apparently it can happen quite suddenly, and also has a predominance in women. Learn something new everyday. Wishing the best for Iroha.
Oh, is that the same disorder where Kasumi in Bang Dream loses her voice temporarily
@@o0...957 Oh, i haven't watch that show, but if what happened to Kasumi fits what is happening to Iroha, then yes, its probably the same thing.
It is the same case like when we in position of super scared and cant speak at all?
@@salmanrasyid5799 From what i read, it's similar but not the same to the fear-induced inability to speak. For Psychogenic Aphonia, the person afflicted might not even feel anything weird or wrong. It's similar to how one might be depressed but not realize it themselves. Then again, i can be wrong, i just read what i can find. If someone finds that i am wrong, please correct me.
If "psychogenic aphonia" is just another term for "functional aphonia", then I experience the same thing.
Nothing is physically wrong with the mouth nor brain, but some part of the brain processing for speech isn't working properly. You can feel completely normal but still can't speak. Each person's experience is different, but when she tries to speak it's possible her mouth doesn't move at all or her jaw becomes very tense instead.
0:06 GOZARU WAVE
So cute
1:46 I have never hoped that that's a mistranslation. If not, I want to give Iroha a hug.
That was the moment I teared up. Poor girl deserves only the best
Can (sadly) confirm, the translation is accurate. She wrote 己が弱い ("I am weak"), with the lower statement, next to the arrow being これです (literally "it's this"). "It's because I'm weak" is a reasonable translation.
I'm hoping that 弱い doesn't have as much baggage as "weak" does in English, and that she means "In this moment, I happen to be in a weakened physical state" rather than "I am an inherently weak person"
@@sus_gus The word itself is pretty much the same in both languages, and carries the same implications (i.e. physical, emotional, and personal "weakness" all use 弱い ). That said, Japanese is pretty context-heavy, so it could be interpreted in a few different ways. She could have meant it as, "I have a weak physical constitution and am therefore prone to illness like this". She also could have meant it as, "I do not have the personal strength that I should."
That said, taking personal responsibility for things - even things that are not really your fault - is very normal in Japan, so saying that you're a weak person is not necessarily as much of a red flag as it would be in the west.
@@sus_gusIt is heartbreaking that her meaning is actually closer to the letter😢
Iroha chan is a shy, kindhearted girl that always takes responsibility upon herself.
The recent matter, her family, 1M subscribers goal, Chloe’s graduation, much really exhausted her😢 Hope her can take a good rest and recover herself.
wishing miss gozaru a speedy recovery.
her health comes first!
For those who don't know, Iroha also had a family emergency not to long ago where she suddenly had to take a week or so off. A family emergency and a genmate graduating happening in such a short period, can only the mental stress she's been having.
Yes but not because she wasn't streaming that doesn't mean she was resting. Clearly she is over stressed and needs more time to recover.
Imagine a runner couldn't be part of a sport event because they had to run to do other things, the runner is still going to be tired. Iroha's body is reacting that she is very stressed and tired either from streaming or personal matters, it clearly means she needs to slow down.
I hope she gets well soon physically and mentally... I hate it when the girls (Holomem) get sick physically or mentally...
what happened?
@@bingsoy. If you want to know what happened just watch the video if you want to know what really happened no one really knows...
Iroha always has that healthy image in my mind, seeing her like this makes me feel so sad 😢
It's been like a year or a little more of struggles.
The last time I saw her "healthy" was during her 3D debut.
@@vvaleddystruggles like what? :
Poor girl probably feels so much extra pressire with all the recent departures. It's definitely an indirect even if inadvertent consequence from all the recent drama.
I hope she get well soon, thanks for the clip!
Aw, she's so caring.
1:00 I just looked that thing up and it’s pretty interesting…what I saw said the voice comes out in strained whispers but the cough and laugh are usually normal…
Stress-induced ailments are rough. The most I've dealt with is not being able to finish a yawn and thus not being able to sleep. I can't imagine how much stress she must be carrying.
@@Zengkoyshit I'm having that right now. Can't draw a full breath. Feels like shit haha
@@illuminati955 what ultimately solved it for me is to acknowledge what's making me anxious and then get it over with. Before I could do that tho, just being aware that stress and anxiety are the ones causing it helped me relax more. That's my limited experience with it.
Wishing you all the best!
Honestly, it hits me like a truck. I just discovered this health issue with her and I was really sad when she said "because I'm weak."
But no, Iroha, you aren't weak, everybody knows that all of you works very hard everyday and you could have just canceled your stream to heal yourself but you still had the strength to come and do a written stream. It's not weakness, it's proof that you're strengh.
Now i want chloe's version of handwriting live streaming before she leaves 😂
I didn't know you could take JLPT N0 😅
Whoa, calm down there
Bro... The insanity...
Lets just say that she being too kind and blaming everything on herself is the main reason for this issue.
And the short hair look is the cutest thing in the world.
her writing so good...
hope she getting better and can talk with everyone again ~
Damn... She write like a true ninja
A true hokage in that...
I've been slowly learning to read Japanese, but man I could never see myself writing it by hand.
Typing it on my phone is troublesome enough, lmao.
I'm suprised places like Japan don't have a carpal tunnel epidemic.
@@flackenstien It's nowhere near as difficult as you're thinking.
@@GoodOleDFT I don't believe you, or rather, regardles of what I believe, you are objectively wrong.
Hiragana and Katakana are already more effort than the English Alphabet, but then you get into Kanji and now you're doing nearly a whole word's worth of strokes for what could amount to a syllable that is already covered by Hiragana anyways.
@@flackenstien The cultural protagonism of yours shows like a nova on a telescope. And you talk with a lot of pose for someone that has zero practice in the matter.
Ever heard of the Dunning-Kruger effect? For someone that says Kanji is unnecessary because kana would already cover them in writing, the key points should resonate with you.
You remind me of university students that fail at using a simple keyboard from having grown with touchscreen typing...
I'm enjoying the irony that this clip is on a channel called "noises" XD
On a serious note, I am impressed our nin nin is able to write all those kanji by hand. Its easy to input romaji into the keyboard and the computer just select the right kanji. Handwriting it also shows sincerity. Hope she gets well soon. her new outfit and hairstyle is beautiful
Love her handwriting.
POV: This is your JLPT reading test
I'd cry for a lot of reasons
Iroha is a sweatheart.
I hope she recovers thoroughly.
We need to normalize no-talking streams anyways, as vtubers, especially those in groups like Hololive who do idol work, need time to rest their voice.
What needs to be normalized is they have more vacations, its not healthy they are being pushed to produce content to the point they can't talk.
@DaimonAnimations Well, yes, but stuff like this can happen without being pushed to an extreme. Stress disorders aren't really measurable and are different for everyone.
I agree that they should take breaks more often, but sometimes this stuff just happens. She may also have external factors or a predisposition leading to this outcome.
@@flackenstien Totally, I agree with you, still stress is clearly coming too from Cover, which is the reason why Aqua decided to step down and now Chloe too.
Even Laplus added to the conversation that it has indeed increased the workload for them to the point that sometimes even if they are tired they have to push through, and that's with out adding, dealing with haters and antis just like what happened to Aqua for a long time and to Coco and / or more recently to Korone.
Again, I'm not blaming Cover or accusing anyone but their jobs are def, increasing a demand and we know that Japan has a history of overwork too, I just hope Cover starts to put a little bit less of pressure on the girls.
It's definitely not because she's weak - she isn't. What the fuck is happening at Cover? 4 talents graduate in rapid succession, all of them because they disagree with the company direction and because the workload has been too much for them, leading to health issues for a lot of them. Most talents have been complaining about being exhausted and tired this year, far more so than normal. Now Gozaru is so stressed out she got fucking psychogenic aphonia? Do ya'll realize how serious of an issue that is? The IPO was a mistake. Cover should've never gone public.
i think because After A chan leaving, their only source of confort is gone, like A chan is the one who prefented talent graduating, like Suisei...but remember that Fubuki said She will leave Hololive If They Did Something Bad, so for me as long fubuki didnt graduate its still fine, but not that fine either
ya theres definitely smth going on i hate when ppl choose to be ignorant about stuff like this. i feel so bad for the talents who are pushed to this kind of state...
@@KerryFoxxo While Fubuki does give me SOME peace of mind (as well as the knowledge of how they did everything in their power to support Nenechi during her struggles), she's neither omnipresent nor omniscient - bad things CAN happen without her knowledge. I just hope Yagoo has the foresight to nip it in the bud before too late.
This feels like the japanese corp mindset of normalized overworking finally biting cover in the ass
This is the japanese corp overwork culture at it's finest. If you can't keep up with how insane it is you are seen as weak. It's sickening
Dang. Poor Iroha. I really hope she feels better soon. Yagoo, get this ninja a vacation!
The sadness on her face makes it more heartbreaking. Man, i hope she gets better.
I was almost going to make a joke about the fact that she at least has legible handwriting, but I don't really feel like joking about her condition or Chloe's graduation right now and just wish both of them the best.
Thanks for the translation clip. I can read the hiragana and understand a little but the writing and kanji really are out of my league yet. I hope Iroha's able to recover soon and I hope she didn't push herself too much especially during the HoloX weeks. I want my oshi to be healthy and cheerful like always✨. She always puts her viewers before herself, that's why I hope she will get well soon❤️
From what I read this sickness also can makes the patient can't talk for about two weeks to two years. It's really saddening and I hope her the best for her recovery
Using handwriting instead of TTS?
Truly a Gozaru - style stream.
She writes so well お大事に m(_ _)m
Wishing a speedy recovery. Some comments did say there's family stuff that seems quite intense on her side so I want to add this comment on to that if concerned people are scrolling. On the contrary, there are also people calling it on bad management and though I don't want to immediately deflect the idea, it is too early to pull the trigger now. We don't know for sure and it is very rash to call out now. At best, staying on alert is best on this topic I think.
Most likely, we will never know the trigger of this, or it might be a mix of things, and it's even possible for people to not know why they get ill. It sucks, but try to not get too sucked in for now if this is draining your sanity. At the very least, prioritize your own health(mental health in this case) please.
Ngl that got me a little teared up.. she's so sweet
Dude, I think how much stress this girls has to take, haters, graduations of friends, strict laws of company, many people think is easy , just see iroha "smile" face while the "irl" people inside there is crying and suffering, hurts a little
Wow she’s so expressive even with her handwriting! Hope she recovers soon
Awwwww ❤ cute
I hope she recovers soon ☺️
No screaming during Suisei's sololive for Iroha. :(
Get well soon, de gozaru!
Sorry for what happened. I didn't know about this. Get well soon, Iroha.
I'm worried about Cover and the girls workload... Several of them are just not streaming anymore cuz too much "homework" and they say they are tired on their x accounts... Cover's new direction might not be it for many of the girls and we are seeing the results with 3 graduations and 2 of them stating "management/view point disagreement". Maybe Cover is a soft "black company"? I hope it's not the case
Wishing for a speedy recovery to our cute samurai
Look, I understand being a streamer and entertainer isn't the hadest job in the world (unlike some streamers said) but a reminder that voice is one of the biggest asset for streamers and Vtubers, especially the one working with corpo.
It's pretty fucking hard when you have to work 16+ hours every day to meet your 'quota'
Hololive working environment not as healthy as we know
PRECIOUS GOZARU! 😭 Hoping the best for her health🫶🏻
Dear Santa,
For Christmas this year, I just want Miss Gozaru to be happy and healthy.
Thanks man. Or else i would have just staring at the words
Having a similar condition, (though it doesn’t last nearly as long) I can understand how frustrating this can be. I just hope she’s getting a ton of love and support from those closest to her
1:46 WHEN I FIND THE PERSON WHO DARES TO SLANDER IROHA BY CALLING HER WEAK!!! 🤬
🫂 Big hugs to iroha and HoloX girls!
Wow, I never knew that was a thing. That's terrible, poor old Iroha! I hope she gets better, shes very sweet. She must be going through a lot of stress at the moment, poor soul.
Suisei: Cast heal
Iroha: Healed
Thanks for the translation. I can usually get the jist of things when listening to Japanese, but reading it is a different story.
1:45 If Iroha-san counts as weak, I want to be weak too
Wishing speedy recovery to our beloved Gozaru!
I like Iroha's voice, hope she gets well soon
字が綺麗だし大人の文字。
Someone send Suisei there to headpat Ninja Samurai!!!
I hope our little Ninja gets well soon.
Awwww Iroha :(((((
This stress… probs a sign she’s one of the once next to go
I hope she gets well soon!
Hololive is facing another reckoning that could cause a significant change within the company
Overworked talents
1:48 no. it's because sickness happens to everyone. we're humans. No one is immune. Not your fault.
Hololive will be in a nijianji esque controversy by the new year. Mark my words
Ok, Hololive management and Mr. Yagoo, we need a talk!
cute iroha still streamed under all that take some rest soon... and imagine if that was chloe writing..😂
I know it has nothing to do with Chloe. But it's still not a good sign that the talents are stressed.
Poor Iroha 😢😢😢
I wish gozaru san a speedy recovery 😊
We need to Psync with Iroha, stat!
May all the affected HoloX member get well soon even to the sadly graduating Chloe...
I hope Cover is doing something about this...
Mental health issues has always been underestimated in healthcare around the world...
It only has been getting more attention lately...
Mental health affects the physical body quite strongly if underestimated.
it doesn't help that Japan, and Asian culture in general, doesn't believe mental health exists.
What's worse is that Iroha's falling ill at the moment will make a lot of uninformed people think it's because she's working too hard at Hololive, when anyone who follows her knows that she's had to take time off a lot of times because of personal and family problems.
PEople can get sick if they get too tired too, because their bodies are too weak.
On the one hand, I kind like the idea of a Gozaru calligraphy stream, since it feels like the kind of thing she could do in general.
Aside, everyone seems to be reacting way too strongly to it. She's had stressors for a while now, and the timing of all of this does suck but it's no one's fault. She wanted to celebrate with the fans and enjoy her anniversary. All this chatter is just gonna add more stress.
She's not a baby
@Arassar yep, my point exactly.
I was wondering what was going on with her. Appreciate the translation.
The 3rd anniversary for HoloX seems to be a disaster... Poor girls
Iroha’s always cute but as someone who stayed up to watch her 3d Live as the stream was still titled, i wish she had changed the thumbnail or something, i could have gone to sleep earlier. i can’t read Japanese so 3D Live was literally all i could read 😅
hope she gets well soon, i swear i think Hololive is overworking these girls these days considering how many are either not streaming due to health or are just straight up quitting. i’m getting a little concerned.
Props to the translator... i know a fair bit of Japanese but i can only read like 75% of this lol, her writing is a bit hard to read
Just believe in them, i know it's hard for the fans.. but yeah, the talent already said there's no one to blame.
We don't know who accepts the jobs to make em like this (the talents/ manager/ someone higher? )
Just believe in them n give em some love is the best way we can do no need drama at all
Sometimes it's just difficult circumstance. As a hypothetical: You get someone coming to you saying they want HoloX for a project and you're one of the members with a lot on the plate already you're probably in a position where it'd be better if you turned it down, but you don't because you don't want to cause issues for the other 4 girls.
The only thing that people should be doing in the end is listening to the talents. If they say don't spread rumors, don't blame anyone, etc then as a fan if you're not following their lead you're causing them problems.
1:46 is it bad that I think management has said this to her or have I just been reading too much twitter doom posts this weekend.
wtf is cover doing to be letting her get like this in the first place.
I can't. This is too much. I don't even know what is hololive anymore. I ... I just can't. I quit. I don't want to engage with them anymore ... Goodbye forever, hololive ...
man i mean what happen after sakamata chloe now this kazama iroha? really end of year of 2024 and the begining of 2025 is not really ok
Bro stress induced muteness. I think HoloX might go down another member if things don't ease up in Hololive.
Wtf is management doing that the amount of stress is giving talents aphonia
Hololive might be going down a bad hole honestly. So many influential members that carried a lot of JP and overseas viewerships are leaving and are all for a lot of the same reasons??? Now a lot of those members who left are now going indie??? Yea something's wrong here 🤔
This concept is actually quite interesting imo. Definitely wanna see more
I am aware of the company's growth.
They have more work to do and must earn more money to keep the business going.
But if they don't change their minds about part of their work and give their talents a break at least once a week, they will all dying
Gws miss gozaru !!
Wtf is going on over there bro?
My goodness mental health awareness is so bad in Japan.
The fact that she blames herself on being weak instead of accepting that her environment produced this response is crazy. There is no way its all on her.
how a country can be so advanced & so archaic at the same time is truly astonishing
@@cocoqtpi What truly astonishing is how the most mentally ill country in the world- who have elected old men with dementia to be president three times now- think they're so much better than everyone else.
Look at your own country first than judge others, kid.
@@darkwar232100 Little blud doesnt know that two wrongs dont make a right.
Gozaru chan going through a lot of stress. I hope she can sit back and relax for some time until she fully recovers. She's been going through a lot..
She could have just typed it. But she really wanted to convey her words to us personally.
real talk, I can see the pattern of the graduation. It happen to talents that have been hiatus for a while and then suddenly getting mlittle bit more active in streaming... I wouldn't be surprised if Shion will graduate next year
Including Chloe, Hololive JP has only had 4 total graduations in it's 7 years of existence, of which 3 were members who were extremely close with Kanata & Shion: Coco, Aqua and now Chloe.. so I imagine both of them are not feeling that great atm
Honestly I was expecting certain graduations this year related to health issues. But definitely not Chloe.
I'm worried about several talents rn.
@@deadbob5514 It is such an incredibly weird coincidence ngl.
Isn't Hololive pushing it's talents a bit too much these days? 3 and now soon to be 4 graduations with a very short time in between. And all of those members except one hinting/outright stating that Hololive homework is the reason.
Edit: Just found out Fauna's graduating too so that's 5 graduations.
- Members taking long hiatus breaks some even taking two back to back like Gura.
- All of the members talk about "homework" that they have to do even after streaming. And not in a positive way even though they take great pains to assure us that it's all voluntary. But more and more of the Holomems are stressed and facing health problems these days.
I'd like to believe best girl Yagoo cares a lot about the people working under him. But all these cases of overworked physically suffering women in the company are sending bad vibes all around.
And here comes the rats and doom posters, to talk about things they don't know at f'ing all and twisting facts
people are just concerned, any normal person would be especially given whats been going on
@cocoqtpi I can understand that, but it's not an excuse to spread misinformation and speculations
The way i see it. They need better support structures at this point.
A Healthy Talent is something worth fighting for. Workloads need to be managed better as well.
If you scale up your business: there will always be a lot of opportunities.
1. You hire more support. You let the talent focus on just doing what they do best, .
2. You start managing schedules with the intent of Project Managing the workloads and schedule in delegation to a specific administrative workforce..
3. You re-evaluate your workflows and business processes with your talent in mind. Your talent is your lifeline.
I'm sorry my brothers and sisters I'm just really frustrated, because what's happening is an effect of fire fighting what comes their way.
and i've seen it all too well throughout my career in corporate structures with workloads never ending and sometimes these things break people stress i mean.
Yeah, I'm frustrated too and lash out at cover the moment the notice dropped. But after thinking it through, there is no reason to believe that they haven't done that, chloe also mentioned that her manager had been making adjustments to make sure she is fine, we also have stories of other talents like mumei when she was in JP and felt sick because she doesnt want to eat and staffs came in buying groceries for her. Graduation doesn't happen in a night, even if we assume cover is just another corporate, no corpo want one of their revenue source cut.
@@IrvineL1 Yeah i mean, for me i accept the graduation.
What i don't accept is multiple talents getting sick being in and out of hospital, just earlier we can see it with Iroha with her silent stream.
Clearly there is something wrong i prioritize their health and well being first and foremost.
and that's something Cover should start working on.
There is no perfect business, things like that will always happen with any type of business structure. Lap+ just said last time that they are free to take workload as much as they want and this is aside from the mandatory workload which definitely related to idol work. Some of them definitely took more than what they can bite because let us face it they sometimes want to soar high, they want to reach the top quickly, they want to earn more and there are some people who are getting conscious and anxious seeing their genmates getting more numbers than them. Comparing this to the companies that ive been I can say that they are more aware and making adjustments for the talents.
I really hate these passive aggressive comments trying to blame the cover staff while under the guise of friendly nature and feedback. Time and time again, hololive talents have mentioned how easy it is for them to take much needed rests or breaks. They always make it clear that hololive and staff aren't to blame, and yet people still try to find a way to shift blame on them.
@@iDelayOnyeah it must've been particularly hard for her, holox is one of the gen with the most projects, and one of her genmates just graduated, it must've been a great mental toll for her. But like I mentioned before, multiple talents have come out on how particular staffs are with talents well being, so i just don't want to assume malice out of cover or anything like that, but i can see them oversighting something and I hope they can fix it
I know Holopro wants to capitalize on the success they're having, but it's starting to look like they're draining their talents way too much
Nah man that wasnt iroha
They need to work less.
Best wishes and a sensible recovery for Iroha. Very considerate of her to stream just to not worry her fans even if she should be resting.
Is it just me or as of recent this last year and a half Hololive has been plagued with their talent getting stressed out because of corporate pushing for talent to deliver on their obligations for work? It's almost as if corporate is the cause of the talents' stress demanding productivity so profits keep funneling into their account. It's like nearly every company really. Nearly all big companies are more interested in making huge profits rather than taking care of their talent (workers). That and all the red tape for permissions the talent has to deal with is too much. At this rate Hololive will end up where Nijisanji is at but via a different route. Nijisanji bled out talent. Hololive is suffering a slower internal bleeding of talent but the end effect is the same. Inevitably VTubers will end up going Indie all the way at this rate. There's nothing like being your own boss and setting your own schedule and responsibilities. The price for the benefits and perks of being a corporate VTuber seem to be too high now more than in the early age of VTubing.
Training her silence sneaking skills. Lore intensifies
Bro what's happening on hololive
Nah...this girls need to stop taking too much work i dont its either the girl own choice or cover force them...i hope its their own choice