As a single sided board - if you want to scan that at 1200dpi i can replicate the PCB. The inverter chips are still available and cost 70p each - so it would be easy and cheap to reproduce the interface as an open source project :)
I marvel at the incredible inefficient use of storage this way. A digital media, played as analog sound into a tape reader. I am so glad to see you use the "close" button to get the CD tray back in, instead of shoving it like many people do. I'm sure the latter is just a self protection mechanism.
I think it would be fun (and a nice alternative to a whole floppy drive) to store your games library on CD. You could burn your games to individual tracks and have a reference sheet as part of the package. Of course, there's be no saving data (easily) but a small discman or similar next to your c64 as a means to load software seems pretty cool to me!
Makes you wonder if they could have made it more into an actual dynamic-loading CDROM system by adding an IR transmitter to some C64 port. That would allow the C64 to send the track seek commands to the CD player itself, allowing for both transparently loading more CD data, as well as playing the correct CD audio track as BGM for a game level. Hmm, perhaps some indie retro-game house could pick up that idea nowadays?
Many years ago back in the 90s I had an old CD-ROM in an external enclosure back when they had a play, stop and next track button on the front. I had an old C64 datasette that didn't work anymore so I butchered it and converted an RCA cable for it. I dumped a whole heap of software from tape to CD just for an experiment and an actually worked really well. No more rewinding and fast forwarding I could access the track directly. I had 3 or so CDs with software loaded on it and used it for several years afterwards. Shame I didn't keep it really..
yes, i saw that also live, demoed in Denmark in one of our Club-meetings :) I dont know how stable it was and not really sure how much they speed up the loading, and how fast you could load from the tape port.
What an incredible retro video. So interesting to see software on CD to be audio fed into the c64. Such a tiny market could access a CD player and the dongle required to emulate the cassette drive it makes me think that this likely was a labour I’d love for someone rather than a serious commercial product. Thanks RMC! Another home run.
3:50 - That box has clearly been re-wrapped by the seller (or someone else after the fact to sell it as "in foil") given the crinkly sound and look of the material.
Yep. Can confirm this was rewrapped with aftermarket plastic wrap and a hot air gun. We used to do that all of the time back in the day to make it present as “new”. We had a machine that did it all too. I also see plenty of “new in box” disk drives and whatnot for the C64 on eBay. I sold commodore peripherals in the 80s and never did commodore ever shrink wrap a disk drive or computer. Caveat emptor.
i've had one of those from new, was sold in a typical german small city wholesale store with a decent selection of software back in the day; never thought they'd be that rare
Probably not. The CDTV (of which the Angry Video Game Nerd says is "a home computer and a CD-ROM drive crammed into an aluminum coffin") is based on the Amiga Advanced Graphics Architecture, which was more powerful than the C64 was, as Commodore repackaged a computer as a pricier games console (for the second time!) than their home computers.
I saw the advertising BITD in 64'er magazine. Later, 64'er magazine also released a CD, but a standard CD-ROM with all of their type-in-listings on one media. That was quite a revelation because we spent hours typing in some of those listings...
Wow. Just. Wow. Thanks for the video! This was wild. Kinda glad I never picked this up back then (and my mother was a professional singer so she had all manner of recording/playing equipment from the 50s through the 80s). I guess it was kind of an experiment rather than a feasible idea. Someone did it on a record. Multiple companies made a whole industry of it on tapes/disks. Today we have static RAM storage. Optical is SO last century (you know, when I was born). LOL!
It would be interesting to see, if one could make their own collection CDs compatible with this adapter. Burning the sounds from tape faster onto a CD should be possible. Only the menu would need to be reverse engineered
What I did discover is that if you select a game and try to load the wrong track from CD it doesn't work, so it's looking for the specific game to load
Outside of the Codies and this one, I’m not aware of any other CD packs for the 8-bits. This one feels weird because I’d have expected more of Rainbow Arts’ own catalogue in there, especially with its focus for a German release first. One item worth noting with Lode Runner is that it was probably based in the cartridge release which only offered a subset of levels instead of the full 150 offered in the OG disk release.
@RMC It seems great minds think alike! Peter over at NostalgiaNerd just did a video on this same subject, except he focused on the Spectrum version with the tape loader. Still good fun though!
That CD loader should be replaced with turbo 250 or something in the same size. It would take few seconds to load the loader. With mono tracks on the CD, it could contain twice as much data as well.
Whoever Duncan Evans is deserves a beating for saying "...10 music tracks by Chris Hulsbeck (who?)" in the Your Commodore review. A professional games journalist writing about C64 games really ought to know that name; if you ask me the 10 music tracks are the most exciting thing about the CD!
I bought a clone version of this may be 10 years ago on ebay. Took a while but I was able to load games via an mp3 player just had to be quick with the space bar when loading.
Wow these Cd packs are like London Buses. What are the odds of your good self and the Nostalgia Nerd dropping two of the C64 CD pack videos on the same day? Am looking forward to seeing your take on the more elusive games pack from the two packs. But still (for me) its a charming coincidence that's taken place.
Very jealous, would love to own this for my C64 collection. I remember the ZZAP article well - but I didn't even own a CD player back then. But in terms of C64 disk drive prices, new official Commodore drives were still over £140-50 then, as Commodore clamped down on the clones/unofficial drives.
I borrowed the Codemasters CD for the C64 from a mate. We'd both moved on to the 16-bits by this point, but it was enough of a gimmick for him to buy. After a bit of playing about with the Hi-Fi settings, I was able to get it working. If they'd tried it a year or 2 earlier, it might have taken off.
would it be the same chip, as in the commodores ,tape player, all it would have involved peeling the padded sticker off the back and taking a close up picture of the front and back, 🤷♂️☹
I remember seeing the Code Masters one in Woolworths, looked for it online a few times and not been able to find it. Cool that I wasnt inventing memories!
13:22 - I didn't know that! I actually never had tapes as a kid in the 80s... we had a 1541 disk drive from the get-go and disks were fairly cheap. It wasn't until years later getting back into retro gaming that I finally got to fiddle with a cassette adapter for a C64, and all I can say is OMG I'M SO SORRY FOR YOU ALL! 😂 Tapes were cheap and all, but my goodness what an awful experience!
Very cool :) Had Commodore 64 C in 1989, and also my parents had a JVC stereo system with CD player, so in theory, could've done this back then, if I had the cd game pack :P
Try number 4 at posting this comment. There is another games CD for 8-bits. I was browsing some issues of ACE magazine (Advanced Computer Entertainment, one of Future Publishing's titles originally, but EMAP by the time) when I happened across an undated supplement called The ACE CDROM Guide. It gave some details of the Rainbow Arts and Codemasters discs, then one by Cosmi called CD Top Twenty Solid Gold Developer (really), at £19.95 for the C64 only. Also using audio to store 20 games, those mentioned are Forbidden Forest, Caverns of Khafka (misspelled in the article), Slinky, Potty Pigeon, and Grand Master Chess. [Edit: it appears to have been supplied with the May 1990 issue, so some time after the first mentions of the Rainbow Arts disc elsewhere.] I tried to leave a link, but even leaving it out my previous attempts to post this comment have vanished.
I was thinking use the stereo channels to store two games on each track(one game on L, one game on R). But they weren't hurting for space, even after putting each game on the disk twice they still had room for five music tracks. So I guess it is a moot point.
The 4069 hex inverter IC is a CMOS logic chip, not TTL, so can handle an analog input better for this purpose. I've seen similar circuits using op amps and LM3900 quad comparators, but hey if it gets the job done... When you used the headphone output on the CD deck, I wondered if you'd need to play with the volume level to get it to reliably read the data, or if you could have used the line-level outputs instead since they're a fixed output level. I'm curious to know what the game documentation says about that. Thanks for the interesting video!
"Which means you could just as well have used tape or floppy.." Contemporary counter argument: "But it's on CD dude!" :) It was likely just way too early though. A CD player was still quite the expensive device at the time. So having one permanently attached for a non music playback use, or buying a dedicated one for a comparatively budget computer system were both market failpoints. Maybe it would have helped some if it at least included a convenient signal switch for those having the computer corner in proximity of the stereo rack. The amplifier could do this as well of course, but.. "sssskweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!" ;)
Turrican would've been a killer addition but it came out the following year. There was a demo available in 1989 under the name Hurrican, Rainbow Arts could've added demo's and previews. Are Chris Huelsbeck's pieces SID tunes or actual redbook audio?
I don't know the input impedance of that little adapter board, but you probably could have used the analog output on the back of the CD player. But yeah, very interesting video. Lifting on the new prospects on some new invention is something you still see even today.
Doesn’t this open up the idea of ripping the old cassette tapes through Audacity and burning them to CD? Not saying the load times would be quicker but surly would preserve your copy? I know it’s probably not worth the hassle
Please do a proper EAC rip of this disc with log and cue for preservation purposes. There still is no such equivalent rip of any of the Codemasters CD game packs, which are all rotting due to being late-80’s PDO UK pressings. At least this one was from Sonopress!
Good video, thanks. Somehow, I can't imagine the dongle being any different from the headphone socket on a CD player, just like the same socket on a cassette player.
I winced seeing you unseal it. Such a rare treasure to find, that I'd have kept it intact. I'm sure a used version would have come up sooner or later. Nice video nonetheless.
I'm so sorry and I feel your pain. My thoughts and prayers are with you, and my famiy kneels down every night, just before bedtime, to beg Our Lord to save such treasures from such a savage, wilful opening, and maybe to send some food to starving people, if he has any time left over.
just a thought for modern day usage could you use mp3 files, and is included port connecter available some where to reproduce as i would like to try this for my self plus would like to back up my games to cd thx
hehe @ 7:10 "like so". You have gone back to about the same era blue peter with that phrase, as the demo with breakfast on a CD. Edit.... a few TH-cam videos later and i saw Nostalgia Nerd do a very similar review but he answered a question i had in mind. Why not go straight to tack xx if you know what you want to load? Well as seen on that other video the menu track is also the turbo loader, makes perfect sense now :)
Would it have made more sense to include the code for the fast loader on each track, do away with the menu and rely on the user looking at the box for the correct track number?
@@mspeter97 I think it would have been helpful to have the directions narrated on the first track. That way if you forgot how to do anything you just play the first track.
This sounds like a PCBWay project :) someone could adapt this so you can load games off of a CD...might be pointless with the MicroSD options but a neat option either way.
I think for comerical product its a little cheap that the adaptor dont have a case, it looks like some homebrew project and not for something you will sell to the end user
As a single sided board - if you want to scan that at 1200dpi i can replicate the PCB. The inverter chips are still available and cost 70p each - so it would be easy and cheap to reproduce the interface as an open source project :)
hi where can i get a scan of the pcb is it available yet if so where from as id lie to try this thx
🎵🎵Are you keeping up with Commodore because Commodore is keeping up with you🎵🎵
Much as I've enjoyed the Cave-build episodes, it's great to have Old Skool RMC back :)
It's good to be back!
There are some amazing videos coming!
I had thought Mark a permanent fixture!
Defender of the Crown was released on CD for PC in 1990 in USA.
I marvel at the incredible inefficient use of storage this way. A digital media, played as analog sound into a tape reader.
I am so glad to see you use the "close" button to get the CD tray back in, instead of shoving it like many people do. I'm sure the latter is just a self protection mechanism.
Just found the old CD in my cellar. Had amazing load times for its time. But I was to young to appreciate the great games that where on the disc.
I am amazed by this as I had never seen CD for C64. A great retro video and love the Christmas Jumper!
Nostalgia Nerd also posted a video about this today. What a coincidence!
he mention the name of a 3rd audio cd compellation of spectrum/c64 games in that video as well
It's strange how after all these years I can still remember which Zzap magazines I had just from the cover.
No, it isn't.
I think it would be fun (and a nice alternative to a whole floppy drive) to store your games library on CD. You could burn your games to individual tracks and have a reference sheet as part of the package. Of course, there's be no saving data (easily) but a small discman or similar next to your c64 as a means to load software seems pretty cool to me!
Makes you wonder if they could have made it more into an actual dynamic-loading CDROM system by adding an IR transmitter to some C64 port. That would allow the C64 to send the track seek commands to the CD player itself, allowing for both transparently loading more CD data, as well as playing the correct CD audio track as BGM for a game level. Hmm, perhaps some indie retro-game house could pick up that idea nowadays?
If they wanted, they could have made a cd-rom-drive for the cbm-serialport.
Many years ago back in the 90s I had an old CD-ROM in an external enclosure back when they had a play, stop and next track button on the front. I had an old C64 datasette that didn't work anymore so I butchered it and converted an RCA cable for it.
I dumped a whole heap of software from tape to CD just for an experiment and an actually worked really well. No more rewinding and fast forwarding I could access the track directly.
I had 3 or so CDs with software loaded on it and used it for several years afterwards. Shame I didn't keep it really..
Nice companion piece to the Nostalgia Nerd video I just watched on the Codemasters cd.❤️
Nice. Just watched the Nostalgia Nerd video on early CD compilations and this pops up. th-cam.com/video/Ji00WTxoY7I/w-d-xo.html
i never would've thought they used a cd to play the audio like a cassette tape... wow!! you learn something new everyday
Ah. Dropzone. First game I played on my new Atari 800XL in 1985 and still one of my all-time favourite 8-bit games.
For MSX there is The Games Collection by Eurosoft, a CD with 33 games on it.
yes, i saw that also live, demoed in Denmark in one of our Club-meetings :) I dont know how stable it was and not really sure how much they speed up the loading, and how fast you could load from the tape port.
What an incredible retro video. So interesting to see software on CD to be audio fed into the c64. Such a tiny market could access a CD player and the dongle required to emulate the cassette drive it makes me think that this likely was a labour I’d love for someone rather than a serious commercial product.
Thanks RMC! Another home run.
I remember reading that CD article in that Zzap and thinking, "only 10 games in ~700Mb of storage?"
3:50 - That box has clearly been re-wrapped by the seller (or someone else after the fact to sell it as "in foil") given the crinkly sound and look of the material.
Yep. Can confirm this was rewrapped with aftermarket plastic wrap and a hot air gun. We used to do that all of the time back in the day to make it present as “new”. We had a machine that did it all too.
I also see plenty of “new in box” disk drives and whatnot for the C64 on eBay. I sold commodore peripherals in the 80s and never did commodore ever shrink wrap a disk drive or computer.
Caveat emptor.
Calendar ordered. Thanks Neil 😊
I found a schematic of the rainbow arts cd adapter we could make our own :) another possible revenue for the cave
It's a good job that this idea wasn't taken up by Cascade Games; just think: CD 500,000...
i've had one of those from new, was sold in a typical german small city wholesale store with a decent selection of software back in the day; never thought they'd be that rare
Wouldn't have been a CDTV be like a fitting choice for playing that CD?? :D
LGR's gonna do that : )
I'd have used a CD-WALKMEN
Probably not. The CDTV (of which the Angry Video Game Nerd says is "a home computer and a CD-ROM drive crammed into an aluminum coffin") is based on the Amiga Advanced Graphics Architecture, which was more powerful than the C64 was, as Commodore repackaged a computer as a pricier games console (for the second time!) than their home computers.
Great news - that loading sound cured my tinnitus! :)
The MSX has a collection CD as well, called 'The Game Collection' from Eurosoft, dated from 1988
One to hunt down thank you!
Nostalgia Nerd mentioned a 4th pack of games in his video. Something like "20 Golden Games" or similar.
I saw the advertising BITD in 64'er magazine. Later, 64'er magazine also released a CD, but a standard CD-ROM with all of their type-in-listings on one media. That was quite a revelation because we spent hours typing in some of those listings...
This would have been mindblowing for me and my friends at the time. Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it :). Good vid :)
Made an adapter similar to this one with phase swapping jumper, so i didnt have to visit an expert... XD Works great with tapdancer and similar apps
I purchased a calendar just now! Very excited! I hope it doesn't take too long to make it's way across the pond to Philadelphia.
Excited? Calm down. Have a cup of hot chocolate.
That Christmas sweater is epic!
Wow. Just. Wow. Thanks for the video! This was wild. Kinda glad I never picked this up back then (and my mother was a professional singer so she had all manner of recording/playing equipment from the 50s through the 80s). I guess it was kind of an experiment rather than a feasible idea. Someone did it on a record. Multiple companies made a whole industry of it on tapes/disks. Today we have static RAM storage. Optical is SO last century (you know, when I was born). LOL!
It would be interesting to see, if one could make their own collection CDs compatible with this adapter. Burning the sounds from tape faster onto a CD should be possible. Only the menu would need to be reverse engineered
I was thinking the exact same thing, unfortunately i don't have a c64 otherwise i would give it a shot
What I did discover is that if you select a game and try to load the wrong track from CD it doesn't work, so it's looking for the specific game to load
I say do away with the menu and have a nice 'tracklist' on your cd case instead
@@RMCRetro what if you tried to load straight from the specific track instead of loading the menu first (like you would with a cassette)
Heck, you could record in stereo and double amount of games that fit!
Using a CD to hold C64 games as audio data has to be the most inefficient use of CD space ever.
That's funny :D
When you consider how much data you can store on a CD you're not wrong!
Lode Runner for the C64 was first released on disk with 150 levels. Then a revised version with 17 levels in cartridge format.
Ah that adds a little meat to that story doesn't it, very interesting thank you
I would be curious to see the schematic for the adaptor. This could be useful for loading games from your PC, phone or ArduiTape.
You can etch a game on a CD surface the same way music is put on vinyl records. Play games from a record player. That's another way to do it.
The first cd is a collector’s item and therefore worth more. These days you can get all C64 games on a €2 stick.
Outside of the Codies and this one, I’m not aware of any other CD packs for the 8-bits.
This one feels weird because I’d have expected more of Rainbow Arts’ own catalogue in there, especially with its focus for a German release first.
One item worth noting with Lode Runner is that it was probably based in the cartridge release which only offered a subset of levels instead of the full 150 offered in the OG disk release.
There is another - 'Nostalgia Nerd - This era of CD Gaming was Bizarre | Nostalgia Nerd' which is released the same day as this video..
A CD reader for my C64! The future is here!!!
Regarding the calendar, in the US we typically show Sunday as the first day of the week.
I did a similar thing but played the tape over a fm transmitter lol
fascinating vid......outdone by the epic chrimbo jumper🤣🤣
Look up "The MSX Game Collection" It also came on CD
@RMC
It seems great minds think alike! Peter over at NostalgiaNerd just did a video on this same subject, except he focused on the Spectrum version with the tape loader. Still good fun though!
That CD loader should be replaced with turbo 250 or something in the same size. It would take few seconds to load the loader.
With mono tracks on the CD, it could contain twice as much data as well.
some cd-players don't play real stereo. it would not work with them.
cool, thats kind of a time capsule from 1989-90
The load screen looks (and sounds) very similar to OTLA's compressed audio for my ZX81...
Very cool to see these again! It's been a long while. Awesome video.
Fascinating! Love your work, Neil. I believe Nostalgia Nerd provided insight on the same, so good.
Whoever Duncan Evans is deserves a beating for saying "...10 music tracks by Chris Hulsbeck (who?)" in the Your Commodore review. A professional games journalist writing about C64 games really ought to know that name; if you ask me the 10 music tracks are the most exciting thing about the CD!
He also called the music "forgettable" in the last paragraph.
I so love your jumper
I bought a clone version of this may be 10 years ago on ebay. Took a while but I was able to load games via an mp3 player just had to be quick with the space bar when loading.
Wow these Cd packs are like London Buses. What are the odds of your good self and the Nostalgia Nerd dropping two of the C64 CD pack videos on the same day? Am looking forward to seeing your take on the more elusive games pack from the two packs. But still (for me) its a charming coincidence that's taken place.
Very jealous, would love to own this for my C64 collection. I remember the ZZAP article well - but I didn't even own a CD player back then. But in terms of C64 disk drive prices, new official Commodore drives were still over £140-50 then, as Commodore clamped down on the clones/unofficial drives.
Next pay day I am ordering that calander. the holidays might be a bit off for me haha
I borrowed the Codemasters CD for the C64 from a mate. We'd both moved on to the 16-bits by this point, but it was enough of a gimmick for him to buy. After a bit of playing about with the Hi-Fi settings, I was able to get it working. If they'd tried it a year or 2 earlier, it might have taken off.
Literally i was thinking about making a video about this product about a week ago.
Wow, loading software from physical media, how retro!
Had no idea C64 had CD support all the way back then learn something new everyday lol
It would be interesting to know how both the connectors actually worked from both of the boxes. So they could be rebuilt.
would it be the same chip, as in the commodores ,tape player, all it would have involved peeling the padded sticker off the back and taking a close up picture of the front and back, 🤷♂️☹
@@dh2032 Let's not forget the Spectrum version. 😀
They had games on vinyl back in the day.
They released a couple of games on magazine cover Flexi-discs....
Interestingly the CD has "CD-ROM" (a data CD format) written on the surface side, even though it is an audio CD.
Is it just a coincidence that both RMC and Nostalgia Nerd released a very similar video on the same day? (Both of which are excellent)
It is indeed a happy coincidence!
@@RMCRetro A response from the man himself! A very happy coincidence indeed! Keep up the good work.
I loved the simple 'nom nom nom', as the CD was eaten by the player. Made me laugh :D
I remember seeing the Code Masters one in Woolworths, looked for it online a few times and not been able to find it.
Cool that I wasnt inventing memories!
Maybe that's because Woolworths has gone. Except maybe in the antipodes.
13:22 - I didn't know that! I actually never had tapes as a kid in the 80s... we had a 1541 disk drive from the get-go and disks were fairly cheap. It wasn't until years later getting back into retro gaming that I finally got to fiddle with a cassette adapter for a C64, and all I can say is OMG I'M SO SORRY FOR YOU ALL! 😂 Tapes were cheap and all, but my goodness what an awful experience!
Ottima pensata quella di fare una interfaccia che consente il caricamento del software del cd rom nel C64 con un lettore CD HI FI,bel lavoro
Love the jumper
Very cool :) Had Commodore 64 C in 1989, and also my parents had a JVC stereo system with CD player, so in theory, could've done this back then, if I had the cd game pack :P
Try number 4 at posting this comment. There is another games CD for 8-bits. I was browsing some issues of ACE magazine (Advanced Computer Entertainment, one of Future Publishing's titles originally, but EMAP by the time) when I happened across an undated supplement called The ACE CDROM Guide. It gave some details of the Rainbow Arts and Codemasters discs, then one by Cosmi called CD Top Twenty Solid Gold Developer (really), at £19.95 for the C64 only. Also using audio to store 20 games, those mentioned are Forbidden Forest, Caverns of Khafka (misspelled in the article), Slinky, Potty Pigeon, and Grand Master Chess. [Edit: it appears to have been supplied with the May 1990 issue, so some time after the first mentions of the Rainbow Arts disc elsewhere.]
I tried to leave a link, but even leaving it out my previous attempts to post this comment have vanished.
As a child in the 80's with a C64, games didn't take minutes to load from tape...it took hours...well it felt like hours.
Interesting Video. If they would have use the expansion bus and used a stereo connector, they could have made the loading a whole lot faster.
I was thinking use the stereo channels to store two games on each track(one game on L, one game on R). But they weren't hurting for space, even after putting each game on the disk twice they still had room for five music tracks. So I guess it is a moot point.
'Nostalgia Nerd - This era of CD Gaming was Bizarre' - released a different take on this exact same topic on the same day. Weird coincidence.
Exactly my thought aswell xD
I had a boxed one of these devices a while back. I decided to swap/exhange it for something useless, wish I never let it go now.
The 4069 hex inverter IC is a CMOS logic chip, not TTL, so can handle an analog input better for this purpose. I've seen similar circuits using op amps and LM3900 quad comparators, but hey if it gets the job done...
When you used the headphone output on the CD deck, I wondered if you'd need to play with the volume level to get it to reliably read the data, or if you could have used the line-level outputs instead since they're a fixed output level. I'm curious to know what the game documentation says about that.
Thanks for the interesting video!
"Which means you could just as well have used tape or floppy.."
Contemporary counter argument: "But it's on CD dude!" :)
It was likely just way too early though. A CD player was still quite the expensive device at the time. So having one permanently attached for a non music playback use, or buying a dedicated one for a comparatively budget computer system were both market failpoints. Maybe it would have helped some if it at least included a convenient signal switch for those having the computer corner in proximity of the stereo rack. The amplifier could do this as well of course, but.. "sssskweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!" ;)
Turrican would've been a killer addition but it came out the following year.
There was a demo available in 1989 under the name Hurrican, Rainbow Arts could've added demo's and previews.
Are Chris Huelsbeck's pieces SID tunes or actual redbook audio?
They are redbook audio, good point on Turrican!
In 1990, i think a CD player would have cost more than the C64 disk drive?
I don't know the input impedance of that little adapter board, but you probably could have used the analog output on the back of the CD player.
But yeah, very interesting video. Lifting on the new prospects on some new invention is something you still see even today.
Doesn’t this open up the idea of ripping the old cassette tapes through Audacity and burning them to CD? Not saying the load times would be quicker but surly would preserve your copy? I know it’s probably not worth the hassle
Depend on the quality of the cd, some are terrible and only lasts a few years. (disc rotting)
Not really worth it when you can just get something like a tapuino
Maybe theTapeversion of Lode Runner is shorter than the Discversion!?
I need to try get this too, it's the Chris Hulsbeck part of it I'm interested in, it dont say what tracks he plays.
My 'expert' is on speed-dial.
Please do a proper EAC rip of this disc with log and cue for preservation purposes. There still is no such equivalent rip of any of the Codemasters CD game packs, which are all rotting due to being late-80’s PDO UK pressings. At least this one was from Sonopress!
aww remember when floppy discs were £3 a pop..
£125! Ouch! Cheers for taking the hit 😉👍💽
Good video, thanks. Somehow, I can't imagine the dongle being any different from the headphone socket on a CD player, just like the same socket on a cassette player.
I wonder if the world record turbo loader (Slushload) would work from an audio interface like this...
I winced seeing you unseal it. Such a rare treasure to find, that I'd have kept it intact. I'm sure a used version would have come up sooner or later. Nice video nonetheless.
I'm so sorry and I feel your pain. My thoughts and prayers are with you, and my famiy kneels down every night, just before bedtime, to beg Our Lord to save such treasures from such a savage, wilful opening, and maybe to send some food to starving people, if he has any time left over.
Stream nearly 9 MB of digital audio to load up to 64 kB of data... Cool 🙃
you just know you have to try mastering your own CD now.
just a thought for modern day usage could you use mp3 files, and is included port connecter available some where to reproduce as i would like to try this for my self plus would like to back up my games to cd thx
Exotic CD-PLAYERS .. Put a mango in the battery compartment and it's ready to go!
Also CD-WALKMEN, head-phones, CHINCH-CABLE, C-64. Were they paid per hyphen to make the instructions?
Oh, it's German, now it all makes sense. Das ist nicht schlecht.
hehe @ 7:10 "like so". You have gone back to about the same era blue peter with that phrase, as the demo with breakfast on a CD.
Edit.... a few TH-cam videos later and i saw Nostalgia Nerd do a very similar review but he answered a question i had in mind. Why not go straight to tack xx if you know what you want to load? Well as seen on that other video the menu track is also the turbo loader, makes perfect sense now :)
Would it have made more sense to include the code for the fast loader on each track, do away with the menu and rely on the user looking at the box for the correct track number?
Definitely yes.
But doing it like this ensures you don't need the manual or the box (in case you "lost" it) and it makes it more user friendly.
@@mspeter97 I think it would have been helpful to have the directions narrated on the first track. That way if you forgot how to do anything you just play the first track.
This sounds like a PCBWay project :) someone could adapt this so you can load games off of a CD...might be pointless with the MicroSD options but a neat option either way.
I've noticed your Codemasters Cd is the Speccy version and I've just noticed a C64 version on eBay if you're interested?
Nice video clip, keep it up, thank you :)
I think for comerical product its a little cheap that the adaptor dont have a case, it looks like some homebrew project and not for something you will sell to the end user