The Little 4X4 That You NEVER Heard Of! 1968 Puch Haflinger
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- Here is my 1968 Steyr Puch Haflinger 700ap. Didn't know these existed until just a few months ago! It's built in Austria and less than 450 made their way to North America. Only 112 were sold in Canada! Under the hood is a 27hp, 650cc air-cooled twin cylinder. Very capable little off road machine with full locking all wheel drive as well as portal axles. 65 degree Incline capabilities and a fairly low centre of gravity. I found this one online and had to have it. Needs some work but it's a fun little machine! Thanks for watching!
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Greetings from Austria, The "Haflinger" was used by the Austrian military for troop transport and supply in difficult terrain, the farmers took the small one because it was cheaper and easier than horses in the Alps. The larger and stronger version is called "Pinzgauer", also after an Austrian horse breed
@Soma Ranjit Der Haflinger ist nach einer Pferderasse, der Pinzgauer nach einer Rinderrasse benannt.
Same here in Switzerland.
The "Haflinger" was used by the Swiss Army from 1961 until 1994.
It's still used by some farmers, especially in the alpes.
The Pinzgauer is not the stronger brother of the Haflinger, but to a certain extent the successor ...
Recognized it straight away, an absolute cracking little vehicle, the Pinzguaer was the larger brother, also available in a 6X6 configuration, when Austrian production ceased I believe it was transferred to the UK and the six was used by the British army. Our 4X4 club hosted a meet with the owners club a good few years ago, a very capable vehicle.
@@CrusaderSports250 Haflinger years of construction: 1959-1974, Pinzgauer was built from 1971 ... So one can definitely speak of the successor...
Best offroad-capable Vehicle we had in Swiss Military. Older ones hat a carrying capability of nearly 0.6 tons, newer ones were less. 1st gear is so low speed that you can easily float within a walking troup without overrunning anyone. In 1992 in my Military training I was trained a driver of Haflingers. The vehicle is so low in width and is so extremely offroad-capable that we had a unwritten rule among us drivers: Where a man could go on his two legs, we would drive with the Haflinger :-) (And it really worked out). The vehicle has no heating - so using it in winter is more for the hard guys - But driving it in sommer is really - really fun. Brakes are 4 drum brakes - so a bit special. Also the wheels have negative camber (I don't know how to translate this to english. What I mean is that the wheels on top are more to the outside than the bottom - like this: \---/.
This has some funny effects if you take a curve a bit too fast- If you have one of these, try it out ;-) - but only if on the outside of the curve you have some free space where the car could come savely to a halt.
In the 1970s I had a moped made by Puch. Even though it only had 1HP, 50cc, 20 MPH, I put 3000 miles on it!
They were sold by Sears in the 60's.
ive got three of them, absolutely love them!
I've worked on those before, nice design and nice to ride. Currently own a Kreidler (made in Germany, similar design)
how many pistons does it have?
I had a Maxi that I used to ride all through the winter here in Milwaukee Wisconsin, eventually put skis on the pedals so I could lean into turns on the ice. Broke down constantly but never failed to get me home.
Greetings from Austria! I have also 1 1/2 of these Haflingers
Geil 👍
Na dann .. 3-Achser draus basteln. quasi "Pinzgauer micro"
@@martinb.770 den Zweiten baue ich gerade wieder zusammen
@@thomasp.9506 Kulturgut
Verlaufst einendavon?
The Australian army used to use these back in the seventies, they were a fantastic little go anywhere machine. We had ours fitted with pipe bumpers front and rear so if you ever did get one stuck four people could pick it up at carry out of trouble.
The Austrian (!) army still uses them today!
I thought they had the Mini Mokey and the LJ80/Jimny down there?!?
@@martinb.770 we had the Moke at one stage but they weren’t any good off base roads, the little Haflinger could literally go anywhere.
@@peterbuckley3877 I didn't doubt about this fact (coming from AT + growing up with our brands + products, even knowing someone owning a restaurated one)
Just surprised, the Haflinger really made it around the world, against the competition of Suzuki, Jeep, Landcruiser etc..
@@martinb.770 I think because it filled a niche that the others, as good as they are couldn’t fill. Unless you were in the Australian military in the seventies you’d never of heard of these versatile little vehicles.
The original ATV, there were still some around doing 4x4 trials in the 80's here in Wales. Great little trucks. About the only thing to stop them was deep ruts where it would belly out. The old enemy rust was the killer.
Nice greetings from Austria and thank you verry much for sharing our automotive heritage!
When I was a teenager in the early 1970's, I rode in one of these as we explored our very rugged farm here in Australia. It was very slow but would go just about anywhere.
I almost bought one in Adelaide when I was 17. Decided on an EH wagon instead...dont know if thats a good or bad decision?
as a kid mid 70s game keeper on large country estate in dorset England had one of these and it went everywhere I thought it was great at the age of 11 look after it mate, brilliant
Drove one is South Africa about 45 years ago, made a handbrake turn and rolled it, got out we rolled back and just kept on playing with it. Good old days. Nico Ras
A friend of mine has an ex Austrian army model formerly used as a radio truck. Great vehicle, hardly ever gets stuck even in the worst of terrain.
Looks like a grand-baby Unimog. Love those 'air-conditioning' vents in the floor!
These won't break unlike many of the today's toys ( UTVs) ! The old UTVs like haflinger has a simple utilitarian design to offer durability ! Today's razors on the other hand would break !
Someone left their unimog in the wash for too long and it shrunk....
or an allspark-infected wrist watch paired with a bobby car
As a Slovenian (Country south of Austrija) I sure have heard of Puch. Our police and firefighters used a lot od Puch and Stayer vehicles. Some are still in use. Great engines!
Believe it or not these were sold in Canada as well in the mid ‘60s. Imported by Canadian Motor Industries (CMI) that eventually became Toyota Canada. CMI also sold Alfa Romeo, Checker Cabs and Suzuki snowmobiles, Isuzu cars, Toyota and the Haflinger that came in a big wooden box for assembly. Thanks for the video👍
With double lockers too! Looks like a lotta fun. Nice job young lady. Thanks for posting!
Never heard of it? I drove this amazing car in the Austrian🇦🇹 Army in 1978 and 1979. Not one got scrapped after their time in the Army because people bought this car and restored them perfectly. We have some clubs here too. The last ones in the army I saw in the nineties which served in some mountain ranger units. Greetings from Austria 🇦🇹🏔⛷🍺🥨🛶😺💪🌻🐺 Europe!
Greetings from Guatemala Central America I have a 1963 Steyr Puch Haflinger and I tell you it is an excellent vehicle for 4x4 adventure
I had one of these in the 80'S. If you dropped it off a cliff you could get it up to 50 miles an hour. I really loved it.
Hi guys Yeh these little trucks were incredible a farmer near us had one, also one featured on Dr who in the 70's. steyr-puch made all sorts from tractors, maxi mopeds, and the power units for the little 3 wheeler invalid carriages with a variomatic drive which incidentally was a smaller version of the units in the DAF cars of which we had 3, amazing power from 2 cylinder engines, hope you have lots if fun with it, Simon B, UK.
From the U.K. late to mid seventies my uncle had one on a north wales farm this bloody thing would go anywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Definitely heard of them. They were used by UK forces in the '70s. Very good off-road capability. Not as versitile as the Alvis Stalwart, but more practical. Great little vehicle.
Only my second time seeing one , hope you restore that baby . There is some really old guy who collects his fire wood with one 😉👍👍🇺🇸
This vehicle was used as "tractor" in the steep hill farms on Norway's west coast. Driving ordinary tractors is too dangerous due to the incline.
As an austrian who loves puch i have to say I`ve seen them before
Hallo Jakob. Bei uns steht auch einer im Schuppen. Amis sind eben nich die hellsten unter der Sonne. Gruß, Steph
Hey, nice Video. I live in Germany and daily drive a Puch moped and my father has a Steyr tractor, so I always enjoy watching videos about other models from the Steyr Daimler Puch brand.
wow. my friend's dad had one of those in early 80's in Quebec...used to have a blast with that thing driving it in the field on the ranch. first time i see one since then
That’s so much cooler than a regular side by side, especially because of the manual transmission
honda talons are manual
@@countryboyforlife2921 paddle shifters or actual manual?
@@noahgullion2 pretty sure pattles but it has like 5 gears
That's easy to do though because there's literally nothing cool about side by sides, they're the worst.
@@pjm204 bruh sxs are the best all around vehicle
Wow, I worked on these back in the early 70's . I believe it's was 3 of them showed up one morning at the shop I worked at in Burnaby , BC. A local resource company wanted them serviced before they were hauled back out into the field . I hadn't seen one since they were great little machines.
Lots of people in the UK who were around n the 1960s know about the Haflinger. There were televised competitions between the RAC, the AA and the Army where Haflingers often featured and frequently gave very good account of themselves. In conditions where Land Rovers and Austin Champs couldn't exploit their higher top speeds the Haflingers often won.
My dad worked on aircraft carrier in the 70s, they used to have these on board
Really? Cool, never seen any footage. What Navy was it?
@@signorpippistrello the austrian alp Marine. Hahaha
British Royal navy.
On the hermes.
@@thomasschafer7268 Long gone are the times when Austria had U-Boats....!
Thanks for the video and pleasant memories. One of my hunting mentors here in southern BC had one exactly the same color and condition. He'd run it on the local roads too by the way. It absolutely would go anywhere it seemed. Thanks again and stay well.
I haven’t seen one of these since 1978. A buddy of mine from football had one! Loved it! It’s such a chick magnet believe it or not.
One of my school mates had an old Haflinger as his first car here in the UK. It was only a 2 seater version with no provision for rear seats, but it was a pretty interesting thing to have as someone's first real transport.
His was apparently something pretty rare because it had a large box behind the seats that containedamphibious
I love these little tonka toys, I have a mk1 haflinger 1963, it’s just such a great little beast it makes me smile every time I drive it or even just open the garage to look at it. Geoff from the UK
That’s awesome!
Awesome man! Growing up in Nova Scotia we had a family friend that owned a couple Haflingers. I loved going for rides as a kid and when I was old enough to drive he let me take it out a few times. This brought back some fond memories, thanks!
No way! This one came from a family in Nova Scotia with a few. I guess the guy sold them at a Honda dealership back in the day. You likely saw this very machine!
@@davidsgarage That's really cool, I know for sure he still had the best one in 2014. I was back in NS at his youngest daughter's wedding and the old Haflinger was prominently featured lol. I'm going to get in touch and find out if he sold them. I'll keep you posted.
WHO has NOT heard of a HAFLINGER, has simply never been serving for the Swiss or Austrian Army!
Your Haflinger how ever is in dire needs for a total rebuild.
A Haflinger probably can be considered the grand-grand father of the quad, but still more versatile and useful!
Congratulations that you got your hands on one,
Steyr Puch also designed (and built I believe) the AWD system and front suspension for the VW Vanagon Syncro (T3/T25-UK). The Haflinger shown in this video is much closer to a Vanagon Syncro than it is to a G Wagen. Some Vanagon Syncro models carry the Steyr Puch badge.
The original FIAT Panda 4x4 also used a Steyr Puch four wheel drive system. It had a Steyr Puch badge on the back.
The Swiss army has (at least they did have in the late 1990's when I served) Halflingers, Pinzgauers and Puch badged G Wagens.
To this day the factory in Graz does awd/4wd/4x4 devellopment and manufacturing for numerous car manufactures. (BMWs X-drive for example) Since Magna bought it some years ago, the Puch badges are gone, but the knowledge still is there.
Ineos wcontracted them for the supsension devellopment of their grenadier. (I have no clue why they went for the suspension but not the awd systems.)
I live near the Austrian Border on the german side and have never seen one of these. Looks really fun, thank you for sharing.
Dann muasd besser schaun
I can remember a garage in the UK near where I lived when I was a child owned one it was a horrible green colour, I later owned a fiat panda 4x4 with the 4x4 system made by stayer puch
Worst thing about about the vehicles that say fiat on is usually they rot away before your eyes while the engines are really good
i must say : every 4x4 guy (and gal) in europe has heard of the puch haflinger,they are famous !!! used by austrian bundesheer and many civil people,they are outstanding and very well known in the alps and around the world just like the puch g (mercedes g)...
My buddy had one of those years ago, spent a lot of time working on it. It was amazing at where it could go
its the best offroad vehicle ever built!
Seen 2 of these on the Alps between Austria and Italy.
Awesome video
Low gears ,lockers fully independant suspension and portaldrive!They built also a few 6x6.Malcolm Douglas a australien adventurer put one on his sailboat for expedition to uninhibated islands.
The intro alone is worth a sub. Heckin great!
Hubnut brought me here, his British made invalid carriage uses the same nifty little Austrian engine and whilst tinkering he mentioned it was also used in a micro 4x4. Looks like great fun!
Hello from the UK 🇬🇧 when I was a child I attended many Country Fairs were these would often be seen, think their uber cool 😎. Many thanks for sharing 👍
My dream 4x4. It makes the most beautiful music.
I have two Puch E50 bikes. ❤
Too bad Puch wasn't still building the awesome Haf/Pinz, Ukraine could make great use of them.
Great video!
These were used in the Swiss military, they have been replaced with Puch G-wagons basically, which are now getting a facelift too. Nowadays you'd see one or the other Haflinger in the hands of enthusiasts or veterans / shooting range caretakers etc. There are 6x6 versions too.
Idk If in Switzerland it's like this too, but my dad bought an old G wagon professional from the Dutch military, it was in very good condition cause it didn't see any action just hauling stuff around (my dad was in the military in the 80's)
I think people who served in the military should be allowed to buy used and old military vehicles. To take care of them and keep them running. Otherwise whenever they renew their fleet, the old vehicles are just dumped somewhere and rot away in the weather
I love those cars... and yes, I've heard of then but then again I'm Swiss.... so Austria is not that far away.
This is a bit of a tangent comment but I once had a Steyr Puch 3 speed bicycle...it was (I think I'm remembering right) a 1967 100th anniversary year model... Had a nice decal to that effect...Wish I still had it...Didn't know until right now that they made a 4x4 car...!...Wow..!
Steyr Puch developed a number of 4wd systems for other car companies. They were regarded as world leaders in the field, and in addition to the Gwagon system, they also developed the original 4matic system for Mercedes road cars. One of the things that most people don't know is that Subaru contracted them to develop an AWD system to use on snow roads in Japan, where they needed additional traction, but didn't need the reduced gearing of a transfer case, or 4wd offroad ability. This system has formed the base of all Subaru's subsequent AWD systems. I'm not sure if there was an official connection to Nissan's Skyline system, but I think Nissan at least borrowed ideas from the Subaru system, making Steyr Puch at least partly responsible for the Nissan AWD system.
Interesting! I did not know that
@@davidsgarage I was traveling in Europe (from Australia) in 2000, and was looking at a couple of military trucks I was thinking of buying. One of them was a 60's 6x6 Steyr 5 tonne truck. A very interesting piece of kit, and hugely capable, but as is very common in trucks from that era, the cab was pretty cramped. The truck was in Graz (where the Steyr Puch factory was), and the owner was a retired former worker at the plant. He told me about some of the companies contract development work for other car manufacturers. I remember there were others, but it's a while ago, and they didn't stick in my mind. I think I remembered Subaru because I was so surprised by it, and it's something that Subaru never mentions in company history. I guess there is Japanese pride at stake, although I'd be proud to have a system designed by legends like Steyr Puch. I ended up traveling to Brno in the Czech Republic, and buying this Haflingers older, bigger brother, a Tatra 813. The same retired factory worker told me that after world war 2 there was a father and son who were both engineers and were responsible for these designs. This was Tatra's legendary engineer Hans Ledvinka, he was Austrian, and designed the original tube back bone chassis for Tatra in the 20's with a rear mounted air cooled engine. Ferdinand Porsche later 'borrowed' the design and produced the Volkswagon which was almost identical. If you search for pictures of the early Volkswagon 'prototype', and the earlier Tatra, you will see they are almost identical. After the war Volkswagon paid a huge settlement to Tatra for copying their design. His son Erich also worked for Tatra, and later went to work for Steyr Puch where he was responsible for designing the Pinzgauer, and the Haflinger.
@@davidsgarage So if anyone ever tells you, that you have a 'copy' of a Volkswagon, with it's rear flat engine and swing axles, you can tell them you have the original, and that the Volkswagon is a copy of yours.
That’s very interesting! Thank you for sharing. I knew about Tatra but understood they copied Volkswagen. Cool to know it’s the other way around! Mercedes also had a “beetle” I believe. Mercedes 170H. Was rear engined and had a tube chassis but wasn’t air cooled. Would love to see one! Definitely rich automotive history in those parts of the world.
@@davidsgarage before the war, there was a Steyr try a "Peoples Car" the Steyr 50 or "Baby" - close your eyes and imagine a more beautiful VW, and you are there......
Puch made awesome mopeds too! Fascinating company great vid as usual my man
They looked like choppers and in Holland there was a whole subculture around it. People who would ride them look like... well, David.
Lot of weed smoking going on as well so they would be like a magnet to the police. Then there was Tomos, a Czech company who made them as well in licence and there was always a bit or rivalry between the Tomos and Puch riders who would be effectively two factions of the same sub culture.
Those where the days.
Here is a picture of one:
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In Holland they where usually in black, and sometimes the Tomos was Bordeaux red metallic. They where always souped up and customized and the first thing to go where the stock handle bars to be replaced with something preferable taller than the shoulders of the rider.
That’s interesting! Here in Canada we never got those bikes. Sounds like quite the time! I need a time machine I think
@@davidsgarage Definitely. They also made some motorcycles and dirtbikes but they're very rare in the states. I think you need one of the mopeds for your collection though, it doesn't take much to make them rip!
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Puch designed very interesting and unique engines for their bikes, the "Puch Doppelkolben" engine. It's a two stroke, single cylinder engine with a second, smaller piston attached to the crankshaft for pre compression. A weird, fascinating design but worked really good.
@@janoleschwarz2131 I think youre talking about the "Ladepumpen Puchs", because the newer ones like in the 250sg i think had the same sized pistons
Hafling is actually a town in northern Italy...great video keep it up!!
Drove one of these doing catchment research in Wales. very handy and exciting, turned over easily. I believe that there was also a six-wheel version.
That is super cool. Kinda reminds me of the old military utility they called the goat. I would have loved that on the farm and for hunting Elk.
Wow if it wasn’t such a rare classic I would say it needed an upgrade to the engine but I guess that would be sac religious to do to this. Very very cool little rig for sure.
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In Perthshire in the 1970s there were a number of these used by gamekeepers and some farmers. I can remember the extreme heat sitting on the the engine cover when working as a 'beater' and being transported between pheasant drives..
😂 too funny! Looks like a blast! Your eclectic fleet just keeps getting weirder! Love it!
That thing is cool! And that's the biggest damn hayfield I've ever seen in my life.
When I worked as a motorcycle mechanic in Pennsylvania. The owner had on of these in the garage where we stored and built the bikes.
I offered to buy it a few times, but he never budged. His was a military version with a full canvas back and was street legal.
I'm jealous. Thats a badass little Rig.
Actually I have heard of this beast. When I was in the Coast Guard one of the senior officer cadets had one. Unfortunately I never got to ride in it. This was 40 years ago.
This truck also has a very good turning radius, can get out of really tight spots. They're really popular as a tractor for farmers in Scandinavia, cause they can go where a tractor can, like steep mountains
People might be put away by the looks and size of this truck, but it's incredibly capable
This thing is actually pretty cool. Its like an ATV car.
I remember these on Grandstand ! Black and white.
It was a sort of Rallycross but up and down hills.
I have heard of the little puch, there’s a mechanic near me who runs one, great little four wheel drive..
great durable car, extremly durable and quality. And expensive to buy, Not expensive to drive! Made in Austria by Puch (Magna Steyr).
It's honestly a cool little unit. You can sleep in it. Have a tent trailer fabricated onto the back..
We had them in the Swiss army.
Went all over the Alps with them bringing supplies.
Prices of the surplus ones have gone absolutely bonkers here.
The perfect hunting or camping rig!
In the '70s a neighbour had one and would sometimes give me a lift to the farm where I kept my horse. Sitting in the back my main impression was how loud it was - the little air cooled motor was deafening at road speed - a bit like a Citroen 2CV which is also air-cooled and of similar capacity. However, I also saw it embarrass much bigger vehicles off road because its lightness meant it didn't bog down very easily. Great vehicle to keep on a farm, but not much good for roadwork.
I was in Italy in the 70s I saw one or two of these. Yep, I HAVE heard of Puch Halflingers 8-))
I can see how many circles you keep going in at the very end of the video as if you keep getting bigger circles with every pass Pahahahaaa I FRIGGIN LOVE THIS TING
1968 so it is a early series 2 haff the serie one had the fueltank in the rear ( just before the right rear wheel) , jep its the Canada version ( no phatfinder badge and no rear backups light in the engine lid you opened) it runs in the 5 fth gear top 47m/ ph ( 70 k/ hr ) and that is becouse it has the biggest gearing in the portal case ( the different final gears are those who gives the high speed) , in Europe the civillians are max 75 k/ hr. Yes this is the pre- sessor of the Mercedes G wagon. Nice car.
Thank you!
If you ever want to sell it please contact me .
The Swiss army had these as well. One version had a battery of Bantam anti tank missiles mounted which looked just precious.
I miss the stg77 in this car its also an Austria master piece that was build in Austria 😁 it was also build by the same factory as the haflinger and the pinzgauer, but its a rifle😉
The design genius of Erich Ledwinka (son of legendary Tatra designer and father of the Volkswagen Beetle Hans Ledwinka) was utilized by the Austrian firm Steyr-Daimler-Puch to produce and field test prototypes. Its extensive similarities with the larger Tatra all wheel drive trucks are obvious, it has even been referred to as 'A little Tatra'.
Wow what a great little workhorse, It's a shame they didn't make more of them.
Super cool!!!! Like a mini uni-mog
I should add that they would toboggan on snow --quite an experience.
So rad!!! Now I want one of those too!
The original side by side hahah.
Basically! Haha
A new side by side cost more than a new car and isn’t road legal!
If Volkswagen and Jeep had a baby
i did use this in swiss as hunting car it was great. we and the austrian military had this.the swiss military have more some brandnew in boxes.
I saw one in Tapolca in Hungary on a car meet 2019, An exiting little car
I can see in your face you're trying to keep the clutch in it but being ever so slightly lol
Anywayz This thing is Amazing!
I want one like yesterday!
Love at first sight!
I’ll take that glove! Been looking for a right my man.
Like an army mule with a cab
So cool
Nice video and cool vehicle! :)
I've heard of it but only because I have a puch moped, never seen one on video though, super cool.
what kind of moped you got?
Remember seeing one when new in the main Ford Dealership in Canterbury in the late 1960’s.
NEVER Heard Of! 1968 Puch Haflinger, living in Austria we are very familiar with the Haflinger and as Bertl Bam wrote with his bigger brother Pinzgauer. Heavy-duty workhorses.
Show us more of the drive train. Trans front axle transfer case and things
Cool rig. There was one in my hometown of about50;000 people. Never saw it in action but word was they are Germans LJ50SUSUKI and more.
I’m just starting the video. Looks amphibious
Very cool.....I want one so bad now