Appreciate your Great video. I've watched many TH-cam videos on the mini and you're the first person who actually did a Wi-Fi speed test at a distance. Everyone else performs their speed test right next to the mini dish and of course they're getting 100 and 200 download speeds.
Good review but I think you missed one major plus for the mini. You can only get the $ 50-a-month plan with the mini. It's not available with the standard dish. So for those of us using it in a remote area, on a roof but for sporadic use the $50 a month plan makes more sense. I can then buy a wifi router if needed and still be out less money than I would on the $ 150-a-month plan.
Thank you for the great review!! The tone of voice was perfect. Thank you for speaking not-too-fast, and thank you for speaking intelligible English! Perfect. Makes me wanna drop hughesnet and go out and buy one!!!
Great review! I would use POE Ethernet cable with POE spliter on the end with barrel connector. That should allow to use just one cable and third party router
just a note, the Mini will not power up on 12 volt power from my RV. I have lithium (13.2 volts) and the Mini would not power up with the 49' cable. I measured 12.7 volts at the end of the cable. I have seen videos on guys that have powered it up on shorter 10' 3rd party cables. I installed a 12volt to 24 volt booster to my lithium battery system and the Mini works great. I average 130-150 mbps.
I also have lithium. This is the first time I will be using anything like this. What would I be looking for specifically if I am to buy a 10' 3rd party cable? Thanks
Nice video, thank you! But I must disagree with you in one point, WiFi range / speed tests. You have performed the test with the Starlink mini Dishy placed directly on ground and facing you, i.e. in the worst possible scenario, as significant part of the WiFi signal is being blocked or at least greatly attenuated by the ground as well as front panel with Satellite phase array of the mini Dishy. Placing the Dishy a bit higher above ground (at least on chair, table, larger carton box or, preferably, about 2 m / 7 ft tall post) will greatly improve the WiFi signal of the built-in WiFi router, as it is at the bottom of the Dishy and blocked by the top panel. Even having the Dishy facing away from you while still being placed directly on ground will still give you a noticeably better WiFi signal. In conclusion, for the usage in the camp sites, where placing Dishy directly on top of or near the vehicle , under the front windshield or ceiling window, where the location will be more than few meters / ft from the vehicle, placing the Dishy higher above ground and (if posible facing it away from the vehicle as well) should still provide more than sufficient quality / speed of the WiFi signal for multiple devices while using the, built-in router, i.e. without the need to use of the additional router and / or running the extra Ethernet cable. Alternatively, it is also possible to use the new v3 Starlink mesh router with the mini Dishy, from the so far provided info by SpaceX likely even wirelessly.
Good points made. I did just read in the support FAQs that Starlink says the Wifi signal from the Mini is concentrated underneath and to the rear of the antenna. In my setup I was at the front of the dish. So basically, I did the worst case scenario test, and still got respectable Wifi performance at 50 feet. Set up better on a van or house roof (with devices underneath) or the dish facing away from your campsite (ground install), you should get much better performance.
By comparison, my home internet (Spectrum) speeds are: 4.44 Mbps DL, and 4.53 Mbps UL with 101 ms latency. So, the Starlink out performs my home set-up by a significant amount.
Thank you for a great review. Well done explaining everything to a new user. My question is if someone were to steal the dish could they actually use it? Should I be concerned about theft? I appreciate your thoughts.
I have struggled with two different USB-C to DC5521 cables. The first one did not work at all because I did not pay attention to the specs. Got another one that was 100W and I 20V. My Jackery 1000 Plus has a 100W USB-C. But it would work only for a few minutes and then reboot. Over and over. I'll wait for the Starlink USB-C accessory but I know some have gotten a cable to work. What did work for me was using the 10V auto plug on my Jackery, running to a 24V DC booster, and then to a DC 5521 to the dish. Works like a champ. Tested over a couple of days. But I want my USB-C to work someday!!! Open to any hints or suggestions. I bugged Starlink support big time and finally they told me their USB-C to Barrel accessory won't be out until next year:>(
I ordered a couple different cables. One didn't work on anything. Two worked with my newer Jackery and newer Anker power bank but not my 737s. One worked with all of them.
For flat mounting you just have to adjust the vehicle location to avoid trees. As far as alignment, no adjustment is needed when flat mounting. It has a wide enough field of view to see most of the sky without being properly aligned in the app.
Or at least even available in the shop. They have no power or RV accessories at the moment, just roof mounts. Pretty odd, but at least 3rd party is an option.
I'm looking to use this while traveling in my camper van. I'm concerned that having the router outside the van and my devices inside will be a problem. Any chance of you doing this type of test? Thanks for the great info!
Hi, Isn't it possible to plug the Starlink Mini directly into one of the DC Output barrel connections on your E600 instead of using the Starling Adapter to plug into the AC output? I do not own one but am considering and I thought that DC connectivity and lower draw was the a major selling point to the Mini. Thanks!
I didn't want to go into all the DC adapter cable options in this video, but yes, you could use the DC outputs to power the Mini. However, from reports online it seems like you can't use the included 50ft DC cable with a 12V source. The cable length causes too much voltage drop, even at 13-14 volts. You can use a shorter cable or add some kind of step up converter if you go this route.
@@StarlinkHardware Got it. Thank you for the quick reply. It would be interesting to see if it was more power efficient without using the built in inverter of the E600. Great video and best of luck!
I'll probably get the Starlink Mini when they increase the priority data. 50 GB is not enough to make it worth it for me. I do like the 4/20 Easter egg though. I guess Elon likes weed?
I’ll be trying this later this week. I’m going to modify a headrest tablet mount to mount it to the middle rear seat rest on my Model 3 and power it with a USB-C PD cigarette plug adapter. Someone has already tried it in-motion on a Cybertruck at very rapid speeds and it still worked.
Roughly 30 Mbps on a sunny day :) and thats gonna be almost halved when its rainin if not completely shut the interhet down for the time being and when storm gets even worse...for $1 per each gigabyte :) No thanks.
That's incorrect, there is no speed limitation to 100 Mbps (or any other speed) by design. The speed is primarily limited (or not if you are in non-congested cell) by the location it's being used as well as the type of the subscription. With the Roam subscription in the busy areas the speeds will be indeed significantly lower (even with normal "full sized" Dishy) compared to using the same mini Dishy in areas with less or no other users or using the Priority subscription.
I can't believe what kind of mobile internet is this? You have to carry two bags and a backpack on your back to use this internet.For me, mobile internet is not a device that you can put in your pocket and even go to the cinema or opera with.This Klon Musk has totally gone crazy, what just cosmic prices he has put on absolutely ugly, rude and unnecessary devices.
This isn’t for use in a city, where cell towers are best for internet. This is for remote areas where cell phone coverage is not available or is very low bandwidth. For campers, hikers, rescue personnel, researchers, etc.
@@dakoniart1 Starlink is the only company offering this technology at the moment, and Starlink is now SpaceX’s biggest revenue source. It’s definitely a success as a product and service. It’s hard to describe it as anything else when there is literally no competition at the moment. If you want high speed low latency unlimited internet anywhere on the globe, Starlink is your only choice. How much that is worth to you individually is a valid opinion. But for millions of Starlink users, it’s a small price to pay to be able to be connected anywhere.
@@StarlinkHardware I do not deny the success and innovation of the device, but with prices you cannot compete in the world with other Internet providers. However, the 5G network is growing and being managed in a new way everywhere and if Starlink wants to compete with the other providers, it just needs to drop the prices.
Appreciate your Great video. I've watched many TH-cam videos on the mini and you're the first person who actually did a Wi-Fi speed test at a distance. Everyone else performs their speed test right next to the mini dish and of course they're getting 100 and 200 download speeds.
Starlink should have sent one to you for review... You are doing great work out here .
Thanks, and that would be nice! Elon, make it happen if you are watching lol.
Congrats!
Happy to see it in your hands. Waiting to see the test videos.
Good review but I think you missed one major plus for the mini. You can only get the $ 50-a-month plan with the mini. It's not available with the standard dish. So for those of us using it in a remote area, on a roof but for sporadic use the $50 a month plan makes more sense. I can then buy a wifi router if needed and still be out less money than I would on the $ 150-a-month plan.
Excellent demo. Thanks Ideal size and power consumption for my Sail boat. SV Skoiern IV
Thank you for the great review!! The tone of voice was perfect. Thank you for speaking not-too-fast, and thank you for speaking intelligible English! Perfect. Makes me wanna drop hughesnet and go out and buy one!!!
Great review! I would use POE Ethernet cable with POE spliter on the end with barrel connector. That should allow to use just one cable and third party router
I've seen a few people mention the lack of POE issue...
It's very common to get POE-to-USBC power splitters with ethernet passthrough (Less than $20)
just a note, the Mini will not power up on 12 volt power from my RV. I have lithium (13.2 volts) and the Mini would not power up with the 49' cable. I measured 12.7 volts at the end of the cable. I have seen videos on guys that have powered it up on shorter 10' 3rd party cables. I installed a 12volt to 24 volt booster to my lithium battery system and the Mini works great. I average 130-150 mbps.
Thanks for the info! I’ve heard those reports as well, but good to know what the actual cutoff is.
I also have lithium. This is the first time I will be using anything like this. What would I be looking for specifically if I am to buy a 10' 3rd party cable? Thanks
Nice video, thank you! But I must disagree with you in one point, WiFi range / speed tests. You have performed the test with the Starlink mini Dishy placed directly on ground and facing you, i.e. in the worst possible scenario, as significant part of the WiFi signal is being blocked or at least greatly attenuated by the ground as well as front panel with Satellite phase array of the mini Dishy. Placing the Dishy a bit higher above ground (at least on chair, table, larger carton box or, preferably, about 2 m / 7 ft tall post) will greatly improve the WiFi signal of the built-in WiFi router, as it is at the bottom of the Dishy and blocked by the top panel. Even having the Dishy facing away from you while still being placed directly on ground will still give you a noticeably better WiFi signal. In conclusion, for the usage in the camp sites, where placing Dishy directly on top of or near the vehicle , under the front windshield or ceiling window, where the location will be more than few meters / ft from the vehicle, placing the Dishy higher above ground and (if posible facing it away from the vehicle as well) should still provide more than sufficient quality / speed of the WiFi signal for multiple devices while using the, built-in router, i.e. without the need to use of the additional router and / or running the extra Ethernet cable. Alternatively, it is also possible to use the new v3 Starlink mesh router with the mini Dishy, from the so far provided info by SpaceX likely even wirelessly.
Good points made. I did just read in the support FAQs that Starlink says the Wifi signal from the Mini is concentrated underneath and to the rear of the antenna. In my setup I was at the front of the dish. So basically, I did the worst case scenario test, and still got respectable Wifi performance at 50 feet. Set up better on a van or house roof (with devices underneath) or the dish facing away from your campsite (ground install), you should get much better performance.
I wish there was a STARLINK heat protector. I have concerns about how hot it can get.
By comparison, my home internet (Spectrum) speeds are: 4.44 Mbps DL, and 4.53 Mbps UL with 101 ms latency. So, the Starlink out performs my home set-up by a significant amount.
Thank you for a great review. Well done explaining everything to a new user. My question is if someone were to steal the dish could they actually use it? Should I be concerned about theft? I appreciate your thoughts.
It’s useless to anyone else if it is assigned to your account. Once you cancel service they won’t be able to do anything with it.
@@StarlinkHardware awesome news. Thank you.
I have struggled with two different USB-C to DC5521 cables. The first one did not work at all because I did not pay attention to the specs. Got another one that was 100W and I 20V. My Jackery 1000 Plus has a 100W USB-C. But it would work only for a few minutes and then reboot. Over and over. I'll wait for the Starlink USB-C accessory but I know some have gotten a cable to work. What did work for me was using the 10V auto plug on my Jackery, running to a 24V DC booster, and then to a DC 5521 to the dish. Works like a champ. Tested over a couple of days. But I want my USB-C to work someday!!! Open to any hints or suggestions. I bugged Starlink support big time and finally they told me their USB-C to Barrel accessory won't be out until next year:>(
I ordered a couple different cables. One didn't work on anything. Two worked with my newer Jackery and newer Anker power bank but not my 737s. One worked with all of them.
ok i see the option to screw it on the van so my question is what if u need to ajust it ? how to ajust it if its screw it down ?
For flat mounting you just have to adjust the vehicle location to avoid trees. As far as alignment, no adjustment is needed when flat mounting. It has a wide enough field of view to see most of the sky without being properly aligned in the app.
Would you know if the mounting poles are all the same size? Also will it work internationally? Thanks!
I already bought a 3rd party DC to USB PD adapter, but honestly it should have come with the unit.
Or at least even available in the shop. They have no power or RV accessories at the moment, just roof mounts. Pretty odd, but at least 3rd party is an option.
Just discovered that here in Britain it's going to cost £85 ($115) a month for the "Roam" package.
$150 a month in America
can u plug cable in to the barrel ports under the car connector on the pecron
I'm looking to use this while traveling in my camper van. I'm concerned that having the router outside the van and my devices inside will be a problem. Any chance of you doing this type of test? Thanks for the great info!
Shouldn’t be an issue with the router in close proximity, but the metal vehicle will hurt the WiFi signal a bit.
When I purchased the mini I'm already considering buying a TP link Wi-Fi booster to plug in to boost the signal into my motorhome.
Hi, Isn't it possible to plug the Starlink Mini directly into one of the DC Output barrel connections on your E600 instead of using the Starling Adapter to plug into the AC output? I do not own one but am considering and I thought that DC connectivity and lower draw was the a major selling point to the Mini. Thanks!
I didn't want to go into all the DC adapter cable options in this video, but yes, you could use the DC outputs to power the Mini. However, from reports online it seems like you can't use the included 50ft DC cable with a 12V source. The cable length causes too much voltage drop, even at 13-14 volts. You can use a shorter cable or add some kind of step up converter if you go this route.
@@StarlinkHardware Got it. Thank you for the quick reply. It would be interesting to see if it was more power efficient without using the built in inverter of the E600. Great video and best of luck!
I hope starlink mini available in indonesia
does this hardware supports something like modem mode? so u can proper use a own router?
Yes, it has bypass mode which disables the internal router, allowing you to hook up and use your own external router.
I'll probably get the Starlink Mini when they increase the priority data. 50 GB is not enough to make it worth it for me. I do like the 4/20 Easter egg though. I guess Elon likes weed?
can you please test it though a glass window? I am wondering if it works though a glass window
I will be doing an in-motion demonstration out of the window of my car in a future video.
I’ll be trying this later this week. I’m going to modify a headrest tablet mount to mount it to the middle rear seat rest on my Model 3 and power it with a USB-C PD cigarette plug adapter.
Someone has already tried it in-motion on a Cybertruck at very rapid speeds and it still worked.
Yes, it does, people are using it in the car under the windshield or glass roof without any problems.
Wish it had poe
Holyshit its small.
Roughly 30 Mbps on a sunny day :) and thats gonna be almost halved when its rainin if not completely shut the interhet down for the time being and when storm gets even worse...for $1 per each gigabyte :)
No thanks.
170mbps is not in the design. it’s a 100. and that’s what you get.
i do receive between 70 and 94 over the last four days.
That's incorrect, there is no speed limitation to 100 Mbps (or any other speed) by design. The speed is primarily limited (or not if you are in non-congested cell) by the location it's being used as well as the type of the subscription. With the Roam subscription in the busy areas the speeds will be indeed significantly lower (even with normal "full sized" Dishy) compared to using the same mini Dishy in areas with less or no other users or using the Priority subscription.
@@h.e.c. ok. Then it’s the design of the contract….. doesn’t make any difference to me.
I can't believe what kind of mobile internet is this? You have to carry two bags and a backpack on your back to use this internet.For me, mobile internet is not a device that you can put in your pocket and even go to the cinema or opera with.This Klon Musk has totally gone crazy, what just cosmic prices he has put on absolutely ugly, rude and unnecessary devices.
This isn’t for use in a city, where cell towers are best for internet. This is for remote areas where cell phone coverage is not available or is very low bandwidth. For campers, hikers, rescue personnel, researchers, etc.
@@StarlinkHardware I know this, and despite everything the prices are cosmically high, if he cuts the prices in half maybe he will have more success.
@@dakoniart1 Starlink is the only company offering this technology at the moment, and Starlink is now SpaceX’s biggest revenue source. It’s definitely a success as a product and service. It’s hard to describe it as anything else when there is literally no competition at the moment. If you want high speed low latency unlimited internet anywhere on the globe, Starlink is your only choice. How much that is worth to you individually is a valid opinion. But for millions of Starlink users, it’s a small price to pay to be able to be connected anywhere.
@@StarlinkHardware I do not deny the success and innovation of the device, but with prices you cannot compete in the world with other Internet providers. However, the 5G network is growing and being managed in a new way everywhere and if Starlink wants to compete with the other providers, it just needs to drop the prices.
.. i'd just get the regular starlink outfit .. 💯📡🛰️