Arena Club Grading is a SCAM!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Arena Club Grading is a SCAM!!! (The Worst Part About Card Party)
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I mean PSA just graded and authenticated a Pokémon card that had a penis drawn in it….how reputable is that?
I mean I am not a person that will talk good about PSA ever lol but I hope that it was at least a good drawing. I always recommend TCGC but if someone requires a big name then go with Beckett or SGC.
I am frankly tired of hearing about PSA and their inferior slabs, drab labels and ambiguous grading standards. Why the following? Nothing wrong with a company like this especially with the most trusted man in baseball, Derek Jeter
I can’t stand PSA and I mention that in the video. However, there is a lot wrong with this company with everything I explained and showed in this video. They are many other companies to use who are credible like Beckett, SGC, TCGC, HGA, and so on.
Derek Jeter is just there for sales.
My guess is a 10 and three 9.5s average out to a 9.6 and therefor rounds up to a 10. Had you got a 10, 9 and two 9.5s they would’ve slabbed it a 9.5 overall.
Yeah I get that part but just seems like a slimy way to give a card a 10. So that’s why I say don’t use decimals at all if you’re going to run it this way. This is exactly why CGC got rid of decimal scores and sub grades. That way they can give out more 10’s to bring money in.
They do, do 9.5s on the front.. I usually go PSA but I've sent in gem mint and got back 6s on ultra modern cards, multiple things that don't make sense..I think their all a money grab but it is what it is... I know your on tcgc but no different
@@jasonnicholson508I sent it four cards recently and got three tens and a six. The six dumbfounded me.
Exactly 💯
I'd look up grading rules before making a video and calling it a "scam". A 'gem mint' 10 is not a perfect 10 as per the grading rules explained on their site. It means at least 1 out of the four subgrades are a 10 and none of the other subgrades are under 9.5.
A 'perfect' 10 is the highest possible rating, all subgrades being 10s.
As others have commented, PSA is really dropping the ball and Arena club is poised to become the most reputable / reliable grader if the trends continue, given the fact they leverage AI and digital scanning so that human error is further minimized.
I’m not sure in what world one 10 qualifies a card being “Gem Mint”? I have not seen any other company grade by that standard. To tell people a card is Gem Mint but only have one 10 seems little scammy. It screams “we are going to do everything we can to give your card a 10!”.
Also, it’s incredibly funny that everyone that comes from Arena Club ignores the fact that they gave a card with multiple creases, messed up corners and edges, and non-perfect centering an 8! That the biggest SCAM of all and makes this comment laughable 🤡! You all seem to ignore that.
The biggest joke is that you think trends are showing Arena Club becoming the most reliable company. I’m still laughing about that. What trends? Where the heck is that research??
Lmao! How crazy can you be to think Arena Club will take over the grading card industry? These people coming to stand up for this company are most likely working for them. I'll never grade with this scam of a company. I've seen and felt their slabs in my hands. They do not have any business grading cards. ITS A MONEY GRAB! STAY AWAY!
They do have really nice looking labels though. Not a fan of psa label the white and red
They are better than PSA but most are to be honest. You should check out Precision Grades. They have the best in the game in my opinion.
It’s embarrassing how many people are trying to stick up for this company. Even more embarrassing if they watched the video. There is no justifying this. I will NEVER grade with Arena Club again…
People are just clowns 🤡
Wow that’s crappy Areana grading puts a name like that on small grading companies. Next time you’ll know just stick to a company you can trust. Someday I hope I can attend card party. Nice video
Thank you! All I hope with showing people this is to educate them!
I submitted 2 tester cards through Arena Club this past weekend at the Sacramento card show to give them a shot instead of PSA. Should get the cards back this week I’ll probably update my experience with them here ☝️
Give us an update! That would be appreciated.
@@PokeThrillzWill do!
@@PokeThrillz update ‼️
Cards just came in
Sacramento Kings Malik Monk 2022-2023 Panini NBA hoops
got graded a 9.5 Mint+
Centering: 10
Corners: 9.5
Edges: 9
Surface: 10
Next card
Sacramento Kings Harrison Barnes 2022-2023 Panini NBA hoops Teal Explosion
Got graded a 9.5 Mint+ as well
Centering: 9.5
Corners: 9.5
Edges: 9
Surface: 10
@@gwallabear8891 how do you feel about the grades? Do you think they were accurate?
@@PokeThrillz In all honesty I thought they are ok at best for now. The edges and corners looked like 10s to me 🤷🏽♂️.
But nonetheless i’ll take a 9.5 and say the price is good and the turnaround is pretty good too. Maybe i’ll try another card soon fresh out a pack soon and see
Just my opinion Ty, but cmon man your better than this. I still support you, but I just think it’s low hanging fruit. It’s EZ to call them out. But I’ve never heard of them…..Once I trust myself to mail cards to grading companies I’d like to get some TCGC slabs to show love.
I just don’t think you understand. But I respect your opinion. I watched my 10 year old get crushed by seeing what he gave up for these cards to just get screwed over. You also have to understand coming from someone who is minority owner for a smaller grading company who is busting their asses to put out a fair and great product. Just to be grouped with pop up shops doing stuff like this to make a quick buck. It makes companies like TCGC, Diamond Grading, HGA, and so on get put down and loose business. This is a much needed video to educate people and to stick up for the little guys. I am watching amazing people at TCGC trying to keep business afloat to just get passed on because companies like Arena Club are giving good smaller companies a bad name. It just takes kids who don’t know much about grading to use a cheaper small company like Arena Club and get a “9” and then be told to they got scammed and lied too and never trust a smaller company again. I want to prevent that.
Thanks, I’m beginning to understand where your coming from now. I’m pulling for you man.
Arena Club sucks! Seriously!Would rather just not grade a card versus use them. Cards hold more value raw than in an Arena Club slab.
Yup! Couldn’t agree more! A lot of 🤡 in here!
Come on Derek! What are they doing over there!
This was a cool video to see how TCGC does business. Legit grading company right there!
Derek needs to bust som heads
I was looking forward to this video bro. I still can't wrap my head around a damaged card getting a grade of 8. I loved the baseball stats comparison 😂😂😂. After hearing that Derek Jeter was backing this grading company, immediate red flags!
This video got even better after cracking out the card and finding more creases and damage. Ridiculous.
Yeah Arena Club is a joke! Saw them at card party last year. The people had no actual knowledge on cards. Anyways on the Pokemon side!I hope they are not back this year.
They could be who knows. I won’t be there this year, so I won’t have to deal with them. Good luck!
Do not listen to this guy, this company is not trying to be a money grab, they use AI and Machine learning to grade your cards, and will show you every blemish online in your account on why something was graded the way they were graded(This youtuber didn't want to show you this apparently). An if you're baffled on why 1 of your cards got a 10 because you got a 10,9.5,9.5,9.5, is because its not a perfect 10, but still counts as a 10. Look at how the other grading companies grade their 9.5's vs PSA's 10. If you are trying to say PSA is a better company, you are getting kickbacks from them, I have seen man people regrade and send the same card to PSA multiple times every time coming back with different grades. Yes PSA is the most well known, but if they do not catch up with this technique and getting your cards to you faster, they will lose market share. You have to be dumb if you would rather let a person with their eyes grade your cards over an intelligent machine that can actually see and learn everything wrong with your card.
Your AI machines must be terrible then. TCGC used machines as well. This is the biggest money grab if I have ever seen one. The card has 4 creases. It’s complete bullshit that this card would get an 8 other than it’s a money grab or the people working there are the dumbest people in the world and have no idea what they are doing. Nice try buddy but the proof is in the pooding on your shitty company.
We don’t have to listen to him…. He showed us… you’re a 🤡
This won’t age well
Did you even watch the video??? Tyler talks about working with TCGC. So, pretty sure doesn’t get any kickbacks from PSA… 🤡
You seriously think a card that is DAMAGED with obvious visible creases can get an 8 with any other grading company?? I don't think so man. Get your head outta your ass and work for legit company. This company is BAD for the grading card community, PERIOD!
They do use the .5 but cost extra.they willuse 8 subs when done the best way all acrds ive submitted have ben equall grades like psa or sgc and cgc i use allnow that ive watched your whole video your just an influence r knowin the tcg pres and havin him grade the card whatever
This was the hardest thing that I have ever had to read. God have mercy on all of us.
What dialect of the English language are you using? I've never seen it before.
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Bro! That’s embarrassing. TH-cam should ban you from commenting.
@pokethrillz I'm pretty sure they add the grades and find the average of all of them to get your score. At least they tell you. Lol
Maybe that just doesn’t make sense to me with sub grades they supply. But it’s not my company so I can’t change it 😂
@@PokeThrillz but like what about that doesn't make sense? How would you put a decimal grade on a card, without averaging the sub grades? Like I'm curious what actually doesn't make sense about how they score?
@@NtroVrt919 because if you take the average score (sub grades: 10, 9.5, 9.5, 9.5) it comes out to 9.625. With basic math rules you then round to the nearest value, which means you round down to 9.5 for the overall grade. The average would need to be 9.75 or higher to make sense by math standards, to round up to 10.
I know every company can be different but that is not a qualified 10 with any other company having those sub grades. It would either be a 9.5 or 9, if the company doesn’t use sub grades.
But with them not following basic math rules and giving it a 10, makes them shady in my opinion.
@@PokeThrillz I see the issue. They're (like many other) are using a 1-10 with a .5 increment decimal system to grade. Anything above that .5 gets rounded up by .5 anything below that get rounded down .5.
I mean that extremely basic, I don't see how that's any different than SGC, BGS, HGA. It makes sense, if they were to do what you're talking about, they would be giving out 9.7's and 9.85s. I'm not understanding the discrepancy, unless you know something about other companies that give .5 decimal grades I don't.
@@NtroVrt919 I wish I could upload photos but if you find any other company that use decimal points and shows sub grades and when the sub grades are 10, 9.5, 9.5, 9.5 not one of them has it as a 10 overall.