Dominant Formula 1 Eras EXPLAINED
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- Is Mercedes THAT dominant?? In this video I'll go comprehensively through the data and stories for each of these dominant eras ultimately ranking the Top 4 Constructors Performance. I don’t have the answers but I’ve made all the data available below for transparency so we can have an interesting conversation. Subscribe for more F1 Stories: bit.ly/2T3TGbK
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Here are the era dates for which each team is being compared. The minimum stipulations were they must have atleast three consecutive titles, have the WDC, and never lose the constructors championship in their respective stretch:
MERCEDES: 2014 - 2019
FERRARI: 2000 - 2004
MCLAREN: 1988 - 1991
RED BULL: 2010 - 2013
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TIMESTAMPS TO VIDEO:
Purpose: 0:30
Mercedes Analysis: 1:34
Available Points Methodology: 2:41
Ferrari Analysis: 7:24
McLaren Analysis: 14:43
Red Bull Analysis: 19:53
CYF1 Final Analysis: 23:04
Hey man, great vid as always. Just noticed at 22:47 it says Redbull's 2019 results. I'm just a bit confused if this was supposed to be 2013 as you were saying. Looking forward to more content!
watched this 30 times haha didn't catch that. always happens somehow. great eye and thanks for watching so deep!
@@CYMotorsport I'm still waiting for you to say that it was the Illuminati at the end of your videos.
Seriously, man, did you go to the "Conspiracy Theory School of Editing & Narration"? 😝
@CrankyYankeeF1 Confusing statement about the 1999 season. It was their first constructors' championship since 1983 and they hadn't had a double since 1979. Edit: correction from @LTLGamer1
@@CYMotorsport but you have forgotten the WILLIAMS F1 domination.
This shows how insane vettel was.He won 4 titles without his team being as dominant as mercedes or ferrari were
Yeah exactly, but people seem to ignore that part, they say it was his car not him, but they forget Webber had the same car and was way behind.
@Zulqarnayn Nadal as if only blown diffusers win titles, it's like saying hamilton is shit because he has the best car
I would disagree. The car was always dominant during those 4 seasons, there biggest issue was always reliability. The fact Fernando Alonso almost won in 2012 should tell you where vettels skills stack up against a Hamilton or an Alonso.
@@weignerleigner3037 yes the car was obviously dominant but because of the reliability issues and that there was more competition back then I just think that vettel's titles mean more than some of the ones hamilton got with mercedes
Tudor Andrei yeah I get what your saying. Especially since 2017 since Bottas came in Hamilton doesn’t even have a teammate like rosberg that can actually challenge him. I respect vettel he definitely deserved those titles but I never thought he had the skills of a Hamilton or an Alonso who could take a trash car and make it competitive and even win, as soon as vettel didn’t have the dominant car he never really was able to compete much. 2017 was his best shot and the team squandered it.
Senna 69% pole rate
*NICE*
Also Vettel's podium percentage 22:24
@@kidslovef1155 I'm still in 20 min:/
near impossible to not make the joke hahah but I held my tongue
Calculated
once that percentage is reached you have to lose future poles on purpose
There was a brief stretch from 1992-1993 where that Williams was so dominant that the FIA had to pretty much outlaw everything on that car just to provide competition. Without them intervening that ultimate dominance of winning virtually every race would have certainly gone for another 2-3 years. That being said from 1992 -1997 they won 5 wcc and came in 2nd in 1995. Should have been a worthy addition to this list. Good video tho.
My thoughts exactly. Was wondering why that stretch (and the 80s run they had) were left out)
They probably would have won every title from 1991 to 1997 if they had a consistent top- driver in his prime, let's say someone like Senna or later Schumacher.
that's why it's in the original survey remember? I had the same thought. there were far too many moving variables after inputting the data. they are in the original model. if that's the case, you should be arguing for honda with tag engines too. it gets wild haha. there's too many driver changes. there's multiple notable technical changes. they dominated for many reasons and none of them had much to do with eachother. but I made a 50 minute video about williams so I had zero qualms leaving them out considering just this month the extensive coverage i've given them
Daniel Araya sadly frank williams couldn’t care less about drivers. Any first rate top driver was somehow pushed out of the team if they were deemed too large of a factor. The only time he actually paid for top rated drivers is when he hired Prost then summarily pushed him out by hiring Senna who sadly passed away a few races into his Williams tenure. All others were pushed out of the team as they were approaching or were at the peak of the careers. SMH
Go watch his Williams Video, it's great too.
0:12 “Back, tabac, tabac, tabac, tabac” sounded like the Monaco corner 😂
hahahah I just tweeted about that too actually. Freudian slip
Back to tobacco sponsorship lol. Marlboro colours... drooooool
No one does F1 content quite like you do. Your videos are long, but every minute is worth it. Keep going strong mate!
i'm not going to lie. this one actually almost killed me. more than 100 custom animations. I know it's hard to have these conversations, but hopefully it keeps your attention but by now you know me well enough I don't want to convince you of anything. just give you a more powerful weapon to have more effective conversations. especially if its to disagree with me! thank you for your encouragement. Don't have any clue how this will do but I did my best to be robotic haha
@@CYMotorsport I appreciate the effort, I really do. This one is great, rest assured
True.
CrankyYankeeF1
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couldn’t agree more!
This video shows how good of a driver Vettel is, he pretty much won red bull 4 titles all by himself while fighting Ferrari and Mclaren, it's just baffling to see how people ignore that, they say "Vettel wasn't all that good, it was his car" but they forget he had someone else with the same car and still failed to produce the same results.
Yeah Webber couldn’t even finish higher than 3rd in the WDC. When Vettel was champion, Alonso and Button were runners-up
but lewis was worse than webber since he couldn't even reach the top 3
Vettel absolutely showed what an amazing driver he was from 2010-13. If there ever was another era of dominance, and if 2020 and 21 are, I'd want it to be like Red Bull's. Some of the most entertaining F1 championships ever!
I find it weird people can't admit how good vettel is. short term memory loss when schumi had the same tough time. car and confidence. but doesn't mean they are a different human than ran the grid. individually, I have a hard time putting vettel 2010 - 2013 much lower than anyone else in this video. he barely won BC the other cars were solid. i was also a little shocked when you really pour over the mclaren and ferrari timing. newey made a major errors and I feel like I know williams now after than hour long documentary I made better than anyone outside of grove haha. they were clueless in 2000's depending on the power. it was stronger and they still blew it. regardless, they all share the will to win and I happily celebrate that for seb
@@jrrosberg9324 Vettel's 2015 season was one of the most underrated in his carrer, winning 3 races with that Ferrari, being on the podium almost every race, only person to challenge Mercedes, plus first non-Mercedes powered car in hybrid era on pole position, that's how good Vettel was compared to Rosberg. Hamilton was so scared of him in 2015, if he had a bit better car, who knows what couldve had happen. Bottas is even worse than Rosberg, can't compare to Vettel, not even on Kimi's level. Ferrari in 2017 made a lot of mistakes which ruined his chances, Malaysia, Japan spark plug DNF, Great Britain, Belgium and Italy lacking power, only mistake Vettel had that season was Singapore. 2018 they put a lot of pressure on him, he was so good in the first half of the season till Germany mistake, even after in Belgium, Italy was unlucky with Hamilton going outside of him, and then they ruined the car till Mexico, which is 2-3 more races lost. People only remember his mistake, but how many times did he drive perfect races, British GP 2018 for example, he was destroying Mercedes that race. You would be surprised if Vettel was in Valtteri's seat.
@@FilipPCGaming Vettel also made mistakes in Azerbaijan, Mexico and arguably Canada though he was still very good in 2017. I am not sure about first half of 2018 considering he already made mistakes in Azerbaijan, France and arguably Austria before Germany - it was decent , but not as good as 2017.
And I disagree about Kimi, outside of 2018 he has been worse than Bottas in the hyvrid- era.
We have a saying, "talking about how great a farmer one once was does not fill the belly." Vettel was. Max is. Leclerc is. Lewis is. Why do we keep on talking about past glory and ignore current achievements of Lewis and Charles.
@Boris Posavec if he was great he would win 3 titles with Ferrari. Alas that is a wind tunnel dream for his fans. Charles Leclerc is the one to achieve that feat soon.
Even here, Mercedes is in the lead.
lol
The merc part of the video just shows how far ahead they have been during this era, and honestly that makes me want to see the next era focused on breaking the dominance of any team from being so potent. This is the definition of stagnating a sport.
bingo. problem is the engine regs don't deviate as much. not enough to change winners. williams went from 7th to 1 to 5th haha. honda to judd to renault. will never happen today. so unless they change aero, power is staying right where it is. and no one is magically going to sprout their works wings. unless it's aston. but customer teams are doomed. I personally see Renault and Ferrari as being positioned the best. the next regs are going to rely on basically spending nothing a year or goodbye williams./small teams. I'm so stoked to see how it plays out! thanks for checking it out Pman I love chatting with you all about where your brain goes on after. also tells me exactly the content to make haha
@CrankyYankeeF1 Too much emphasis is placed on the engines. Both mercedes and Williams run the same unit - one wins, while the other is off the pace. The same is true with renault powered redbull and the works team. Same thing with 2019 mclaren and renault. The difference in motor is less than a %, ferrari excluded... for reasons. Chassis and aero is much more important and mercedes has shown to be proficient at both.
@@Bahamuttiamat yep that's true
@@Bahamuttiamat this is very true. Look at the speed trap in Bahrain this past year Russell was 3rd fastest at 326km/h only qualified 14th. Lewis was 4th slowest with 319.9km/h set the pole time
@@Bahamuttiamat thank you for showing @CrankyYankeeF1 is talking without an understanding of this sports. Its Engine, Manufacturer, and driver. The F1 trinity. Sometimes with luck all three come together. Lack because getting a good driver is sometimes just luck.
It still breaks my heart to think about Senna actually tearing up when finding out about Honda splitting from McLaren
RedBull was something different with cool lovely engine sound!
in a super tough era. they were lightening over one lap too
Renault
Man... This actually just gave me a much deeper appreciation for Schumacher, Vettel, and Rosberg, lol. Seeing the difference of relative performance is pretty crazy for those achievements and drivers that many have seen as less impressive recently.
I know we're talking about eras here, so I get why the number of years of domination wasn't a large factor, but i think it's important at least to note how long Mercedes's domination has lasted, too. Consistency is definitely a factor in maintaining dominance, and the fact that Mercedes has dominated for the better part of a decade is huge when you consider how long (or short, by comparison) the other stretches noted in this video lasted. Good video, man. Love your work
baked into that is the opportunity for regulation change. dominance is like friction - when in motion, unless equal and opposite comes, not changing. i feel merc still staying on top is a product of no regs changes. and the breakdown reveals also just how good lewis is. but all in all, you are right it def factors. mclaren lost bc regs changed away from turbo. they were dominant before this with TAG engines. red bull, reg changes. ferrari - well you get it haha
RIP Sir Stirling moss
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legends never die
lmao bruh didn't realise it was season 9 of thrones out here
each GP missed has me becoming more and more dramatic hahah
@@CYMotorsport 14:36 i see xD
@@zachlee7945 that is literally the funnest shit on planet earth to me hahah maybe it's bc i make video and documentaries for a living but nothing makes me laugh quite as hard as 50% will see the comedy, 25% will actually get amped up, the other 25% will think I'm a lunatic haha
@@CYMotorsport I got amped up
my favourite will always be the Red Bull Years , the cars were great , racing was so much better . And vettel back then was such a joy to watch . much like Max is now
100% agreed. I originally had Williams on here but it was the wild west. can't even fairly assess the 100 plot lines moving all at once haha
Redbull fan😂😂🤣🤣
@@mpangaronald1497 😂😂😂😂😂 stfu
@@mpangaronald1497 Lyrics
ねぇ どれくらいたったのかなんて
本當は どうだっていい
ああなりたい自分に今日も
追いつけないまま
打ち寄せる明日に
僕らつま先濡らして
頂上に向かっては ちょっと
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言えないくらい澤山の痛みさえ
最近じゃ笑い飛ばせる
もう一回だけって何度も
遠回りしてる
誰の 眞似もしたくない
道なき道を行こう
頂上に 近づいてる? ちょっと
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Yes, ハッピ-ビバ-ク
@@mpangaronald1497welcome back
Mercedes are like a relentless machine. I don't see how the '22 rules are going to stop them from winning.
for the first time ever, I actually am struggling to see how the hybrid engine doesn't power them on. I'm not one to think like that and will gravitate toward the cynical side of this sport but I can't see it change unless there's even steeper aero doors opened to offset power
CrankyYankeeF1 if they tried to change the engine rules Mercedes will be the first to protest against it
@@user-zv8qg1co4z You cannot compare the V6 from a road car to the F1 Hybrid V6.
Well thats because the rules are Not to stop them. When the First started to discuss this rules it was clear thsz they wont chance a bit.
It is unlikely they stop winning in 2022, but there is a small chance that they build a car that has bad aerodynamics so they are probably a bit slower, but this chance is incredibly small
“There’s a pair of silver cars at the top of the pack” - Says that when the cars shown are ones that didn’t finish at the top of the pack, one retired and the other in 9th
lol THAT'S what you find in this video hahah I'll take it. It's not like the won the constructors. this year.
or last.
or the previous.
or the one before that.
and the one before that one too, I think.
oh... and the one before that.
Def not at the top of the pack, you're right Bill.
CrankyYankeeF1 I would pass it off as a late April Fools joke
He's talking about an over an era not just the German GP
Jacarri Meriwether Of course just thought it was a funny detail, that he chose those liveries
@@billobong9792 Very true! Lol
Redbull final 2013 slide is wrong, says 2019.
yeah im shocked I only missed one thing haha good catch
This past month I’ve been sucked into f1 racing and every Sunday my eyes are glued to the tv waiting to see the outcome and I just watch videos and videos learning more about the sport your in depth videos by far are my favorite keep it up
Glad you like them Caleb more to come
Hey I am technically a new fan of F1 but this Is my favorite F1 channel for sure! The best analysis and well thought videos rather than just guessing stuff, great job man!
I'll get a lot of shit for it ironically. But I think this will open doors to start blending major fan bases and have real conversations. Or so I hope haha. In the least, i hope it helps you form your own conclusions :) thanks for the feedback Ricardo I'll keep living up to that!
Analysis? Where's the analysis? It's just vomitting statistic after statistic!
Schumacher and the Ferrari V10's and a V8 were my favourite F1 seasons.
Dude as always, your information, research, audio and editing is all top notch. You've improved so much in the last few months!
it's almost painful to listen to my old videos haha I'm so thankful everyone's input. i know people say that shit a lot but I take it SO seriously. especially audio so thank you. left a lot more breathing room if I had to cut and slowed up. next is more equipment and more mogami. i'm a brand whore now you've enabled a monster haha
"Teams are able to battle Mercedes".... well that comment didn't age well!
Hahahaha right
Teams are certainly able to battle Bottas at least
@@deeznoots6241 *Verstappen.
Only Verstappen was able to do so this year.
Almost at 50k subs. I'm so happy for you dude.
as always head down - the numbers are what they are haha. but thank you of course that's a huge deal. I couldn't do it without you all
holy cow this has got to be the best f1 channel I have ever watched. The amount of detail that you show in each video is incredible. Keep up the good work and I really hope you get far with this channel
I'm a big Formula 1 fan and I am really glad I've found your channel. Haven't watched a lot of videos (yet), but what I found as the most appealing aspect of your videos so far is your unbiased approach. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Tamara! Absolutely will keep going
12:15 last time kimi smiled 😳😁
it's actually weird to see him smile so big haha he was like that with michael for some reason maybe when he was just the young finn still!
Mercedes getting less dominant.
2020: I'm gonna stop you right there
This is by far my favorite TH-cam channel these days.
I have been watching this video for two days now and cannot be more happy to subscribe!
Thank you for your videos and effort. Honestly one of the best F1 channels on TH-cam.
As long as you are entertained Urich I'm good with that. I learned a very long time ago can't want to please them all. Just focus on the best right in front of you. the rest will happen if I pay attention to you all
Remember when folk said Lewis had “ruined his career” in 2012 by going to Merc? 🤣🤣🤣
The great fat man going through his middle age crisis...... Jeremy Jezza Clarkson....
@@debanjanmukherjee4322 Wtf, is Jezza his middle name?
@@boltmix7294 no.... Lol...Jezza is his pet name
He was still at Mclaren during the 2012 season (4th place) before transferring to Mercedes in 2013 (4th place) pairing with Rosberg. He was at the right place and at the right time because of the turbo hybrid era. Imagine if he stayed at Mclaren
@@mannedi8665 Yep, don't wanna sound mean but Hamilton's success has been mainly due to the fact that he has had the right team at the right time, not to say that he wouldn't be an amazing driver, but he surely wouldn't have all those championships if he stayed with McLaren.
a whole quarantine later and i’m still rewatching your videos keep up the good work
You’re more than welcome Noah!
You’re making some of the best F1 content out there hands down. Can’t get enough of your videos, we all appreciate the time and effort you put into these for us. Stay strong Yankee
much appreciated Jake! every time I go to make a short video, it doesn't feel as good. I still would like to find a way to create more. selfishly, bc I enjoy it and hate waiting a week to show it off haha open to all ideas haha
Great work, WOW! I love those analytical videos you make. I would have liked to see a scoring system at the end though. Would be interesting to see a video about the different drivers' style of racing, racing lines etc. Driving styles in the wet maybe.
that's what that entire data sheet included is for haha. but I think I am going to be doing that kind of video soon. it takes a ton of work and analysis to find the trends but I think it's interesting. hopefully you all do too!
8:22 Ferrari actually won the constructors championship in 1982. So it wasn't quite that long a dry spell.
maybe the word long means something different to me haha
@@CYMotorsport I mean it wasn't quite as long as you say in the video. That's not to say that 17 years isn't a long time. Especially if you are Ferrari.
He did say last "double" though
@@johnnytopgun6414 He does? I must have missed it if that's the case.
They had a balanced lineup Andretti filling in for Pironi. Arnoux for Villeneuve.
Solid video!!!! I’m a brand new fan and I’m enjoying the hard work you put into production value and clean explanations 🤙🏼🙏🏼🤙🏼
Glad you enjoy them Ian :)
CY you simply make the best videos about F1. Thanks for them and keep up the great work.
Great video, took me a long time to do it, but i finnaly subscribed
You are officialy the only F1 related channel that i am subscibed to (despite watching a lot of them),
Keep up the great content
I've got a video suggestion: F1 alternate histories
Scenarios such as "What if Toyota stayed in F1?", "What if Hamilton stayed at McLaren for 2013?", or "What if tobacco branding was never outlawed?"
Did you read a comment about this somewhere on the channel? I’ve only said it like 3x in comments maybe ever. Eerily spot on with my dream content to produce. It’s been on my list for like a year hahaha. Maybe that’s a sign. But Lewis is literally the #1 thing I want to tackle. What if Prost stayed at McLaren? I think Ayrton would still be alive. Honda wouldn’t have left. The options are endless. Problem is when I write it, it requires a great deal of patience and benefit of the doubt from everyone . Until I did this very last video, I hadn’t produced enough proving my undeniable objectivity. I may be in a place now that I’ll be able to publish that in good conscious. It truly would be incredible content like no one has seen! Have you seen the alternative history TH-cam channel? I got that idea adapted from his content if Germany won WW2. I don’t think I moved after the video was done playing for 45 minutes just thinking hahaha
Actually, I got the idea from an article on F1.com which talked about the "Hamilton doesn't go to Mercedes" scenario.
I'll spare you the details, it ends with the 2018 and 2019 seasons being fierce title fights between Alonso at Mercedes and Hamilton at Ferrari.
I have seen the AlternateHistory channel, he has great stuff!
Thanks for leaving the comment it’s a cool reminder!
Another great video, keep it up! Been glued to F1 since 93 and have never come across analysis like yours.
Glad to hear Kreeky! I’ll do my best to live up to that
For the amount of research you've done .. this video deserves a 100M views.
The quality behind this video is INSANE, thank you for your huge effort! Also like your voice.
glad you are here :)
I think when people talk about dominance they mean in consecutive years on top. A team can win 100% of the races for two years straight, but a team that wins 60% of the races for 15 years and takes 15 constructors championship in a row will always be remembered more and will be clearly and deservingly named the most dominant era in F1. In any sport for that matter
Good perspective! It’s the key to all this so appreciate you leaving your thoughts
Quality as always, really enjoy the long videos, don't stop man ^_^
you got it!
Dude your videos are absolutely legendary.How do you only have 46k subs.Thank you from a new fan.
I'm just happy to have what I have and keeping you all entertained! thanks for your kind words :)
Great vid and totally agree. When Seb makes a mistake his name gets dragged through the mud. Keep that same energy when Leclerc does too!
Was this on the right video? Regardless haha I agree. People forget Seb was the same age as Charles just about and bet your ass he wasn’t given any leeway
2020 season is already decided
Just about haha
Very enjoyable & clear explanations of data. Thank You
glad you enjoyed it! my pleasure to make
Much respect! Amazing video!
20:10 This is such a good point that I hadn't seen fully until you mentioned it. 6 champion drivers, what a line up! Red Bull didn't seem as dominant as it could have been because the other drivers (mainly Hamilton, Alonso and Button) were able to give Red Bull a run for their money even in slower cars. I completely forgot how dominant Lewis & Nico were, I don't think people can see that Mercedes aren't as dominant as they used to be because of Hamilton, his performance hasn't dropped at all.
Do a video on the 2002 Red Bull Driver Search that led to Scott Speed being in F1.
fucking a Josh Revell asked me to do a collab maybe on this. I almost shit my pants laughing thinking of you haha. this MIGHT happen and of course of all youtubers it's Josh haha can't say no to that. we'll see if it plays out
Thanks for that interesting analysis. My time was well spent. I was watching formula 1 since 1997 but I love the way you research work work.
Thank you for your content. There's a dearth of quality F1 content on youtube and you more or less fill up that void.
I appreciate that! Challenging content takes times but it’s worth it. Working on a story that will blow the lid on the whole hybrid era. Taking forever but I’m really proud it . Keep your eyes peeled over the next week
Mercedes even dominated in 1954 and 1955
Ferrari can't win shit when Mercedes is in F1.
had the accident not happened, f1 would be entirely different
@@CYMotorsport you are absolutely right
@@CYMotorsport could you make a video about that?
seems an interesting topic considering the terror mercedes is now
@@saarangsingh3656 Really bruh?
Awesome Job! Can you do a video about the down time of these drivers ? For example hamilton 2009-2012, schumacher 1996-1999, senna 1984-1987, vettel 2014-2019.
oh like post/pre? hmmm could be interesting. let me think that over!
Senna was unhappy with only outpointing a brilliant F1 veteran De Angelis by 10% and being up 10-6 in qualifying with a 0.68 second margin. So they hired drivers nearly 4 seconds slower than him in Nakijama and Dumfries. Ayrton outscored them by 1100%! Warwick who would likely be a second slower and score half the points was too strong for Senna. Berger...though no Prost...was by far the strongest driver Ayrton had willingly brought to a team. Alain wanted Senna as he relished competition. Even Stefan Johansson(Prosts weakest teammate)was miles faster than Nakijama and the Earl of Bute(AKA Dumfries)
@@adampetten5349that's right. Apparently Senna said that he didn't want Warwick join Lotus. Not because he didn't like him, on the contrary, everyone liked Derek in F1. It was probably due to him being an established driver and would be very competitive in the right car. He would have won a lot of races when he was at Renault, if they'd had a reliable car.
Thanks for putting the effort in to make these videos so eloquently masterpieces of art.
Glad you enjoy friend
The effort put into this analysis and the fluency with which it was explained.....you really killed it brother. Accurate, detailed and microscopic evaluation. Great goin. Waiting for more such videos and I'm sharing this with everyone who enjoys Formula 1. Tc
Fellow TH-camr
This one almost broke me haha hard to really explain how difficult it was - glad you see it! And really appreciate the share. Almost done with the biggest video I’ve ever done then I’ll be posting significantly More often ahead of the start of the season :)
@@CYMotorsport Going great...your page deserves way more subscribers (in millions) for these excellent analysis. Continue
I have watched almost every race since 1994. IMO Mercedes is the most dominant car by far, nobody has been that quick for that long. I remember when Schumi put it on pole in Malaysia in 1999 and everyone was losing it because he was around 1s faster than anyone else - now Mercedes do that week in week out.
This is first time I am seeing video with no dislikes 😍 and then I thought that's typical CYF1😍🤷🏻♂️
don't get used to it. if it gets to 200 I'll dislike it myself haha such an unhealthy number. it's flattering but I fear people not wanting to be the first even if they use the dislike button incorrectly. but solely for this video I do use this as a positive metric bc it means schumacher, senna, hamilton, and vettel fans agreed one thing for once - atleast the video is fair haha
9 haters: *hold my beer*
These videos are such great quality. Keep it up mate
absolutely!
Excellent technical analysis
I hope this finally makes people understand that Seb didn't just win his titles because of the car...
Great research and vid as always! Keep it up 👌
there's a reason i chose him last haha. it's one of those questions I can never get someone to answer for me who says seb won bc of the car. we can agree mark is a great driver yeah? okay now imagine how good seb is for winning quads while his teammate couldn't win in equal tech haha. then they'll say "oh he got priority". for four years enough for competition to beat him? not picking on mark - or RB, or Bottas. But there's a reason I prop up Nico bc I don't like when people write drivers off on non sense. Merc, ferrari, idk the team . I just dont like lies. glad you enjoyed the content and see that side of it! I had to be gentle and data driven but I feel strongly about protecting all four of their performances. especially the latter two.
Hi CYF1 I would like you make a video in which countries more F1 should expand in the future and which ones should be removed
that would be interesting! Only issue is it's a commercial choice. I'd answer WAY different talking about it as a fan vs a business. Let me think it through a bit!
@@CYMotorsport cranky what's your thoughts on bringing back india or korea
I had a heart attack, Yank.
Am ok, am back at home, gently playing guitar.
Having a watch of some of my favourite channels & vids.
I have many, many subscriptions.
Yours is one of the best, I really mean that. Intelligent takes, with succinct & funky presentation. Even good graphics and editing can be obnoxious, what I mean is, it's not a certain plus. Your style is eminently watchable, its a good grounded sharp style.
Great channel brother, so good to see you grow. You've doubled or more in the time I've been subscribed. Bless you man.
On with the consumption of knowledge & art...
This next one will be a weird one for sure haha
Appreciate the channels that don’t scream stupid puns (Donut, among others) at the viewer. Thanks for the content.
not to be a dick to anyone else but I try to build an older audience. some channels have to jingle keys in front of their audience full of children. as an american early on most people wrote me off so the people that watch now I had to really convince which is beyond perfect for the content I make. Grateful for you all!
I’m curious if Schumi would win the title in 2007 & 08 if he stayed
Given his skill and leadership, I wouldn’t doubt it. Too bad Ferrari is their own worst enemy and that’s coming from a fan since those glory days.
He 100% would have won it.
Kimi and Massa were fast and on par with Alonso and Hamilton, but Michael when he retired in 2006 was still *UNDOUBTEBLY* the best driver on the grid, he possesed speed, car control, race pace, and he took better care of tyre/car then any driver on the grid
On top of this he had insane knowladge of the technical aspect of the car and how to set it up
He would have *NO* trouble beating Lewis and Alonso in 2007 and 2008
Schumi in his prime was simply a beast of pure talent, speed and *UNMATCHED* technical and enginering knowladge
@@boltmix7294 i wouldn't agree with that. for me his prime was over after 2004 and alonso took over.
@@boltmix7294 I doubt Schumacher would've beaten Hamilton and Alonso in 2007. Kimi in his prime was just as fast as Schumacher.
Kimi on Michelins yes. Kimi struggled far more on Bridgestones and Schumi probably would have won 2007 as a result. 2008 was such an inconsistent season for the title challengers that it is possible Schumi could have won it too.
Ferrari was my favorite dominance with Schumacher and the V10’s.
Such a good video. Thank you for your content
...am sure you meant "battle of attrition" on the 2 012 flyer for the vid...
Came back to watch this again. You're one of the only non- music channels where I'll watch vids over and over... Brilliant, the creative product you upload. Most 'content creators ' really aren't...
Thorough, very thorough. Incredibly difficult arguing with your conclusions but here we go. I feel the mercedes era should be split into two segments. 14-16 and 17-today. The sport has gone through significant changes during that time. They continue to win, but the margins are small.
Redbull is an interesting one. The car at times were dominant but it was mostly down to clever interpretation of the rules rather than holistically. First the blown technology, then the critical 2013 tire change rules post silverstone, which saw vettel disappeared over the horizon. Their unreliability can be traced directly to Adrian's uncompromising design philosophy. It was the same at mclaren with kimi. With a proper number 2, and better reliability, they would've been a force. The pairing of Daniel and max remains their strongest line-up, unfortunately unreliability destroyed what could have been.
Glad you pointed out of incredibly dominant the 88' mclaren was, often seconds faster than 2nd place over a lap. There's no doubt Prost and Senna were the drivers of the era but that car was insane.
Cannot comment on the Ferrari era, as I haven't watched it. What I do know, is they enjoyed significant budgetary benefits among other things.
Lastly, I don't think people adequate gauge just how good Bottas is. They also underestimate just how much Hamilton has improved over the years. Drivers are often seen as static entities, but in reality they grow, improve and change. Lewis has always been fast but technically weak. He relied too heavily on his talent rather than the engineers around him. The partnership of Nico, the tutelage of Niki changed that. Contrary to what many believe, he's much more Prost than Senna. He's also the trailblazer for the following generation of drivers. They're not only younger than ever, but are more outgoing, charming and willing to express themselves in ways once thought unacceptable. All have clothing lines, and outside interests. And though few admit it, they all look up to him.
In the end, I largely agree with you. Mercedes as an entity is the best team in f1 history. Like their star driver, they continual improve upon their weaknesses becoming stronger. I wouldn't hold my breath hoping the 2022 regs changes much. Such a well oiled organisation will be successful regardless of technical changes. Only infighting will see that team's demise. Judging from the testimony of John Owen, Aldo Costa, and James Allison along with Wolf, that's hardly likely.
Top job. Top Job. Excellent, exquisite. I enjoy every millisecond. Ravenous for more.
As always great going through your thoughts process. I don’t think it’s even possible to make this yet but you make a good point on era. There’s not enough room left in the technical ceiling to change enough for another team to exploit. The turbo to non turbo is drastic. The banning of ground effects is drastic. Going back to turbo since the MP4/ monster with hybrid was even drastic. Engines truly are at the whims of the global partner . F1 can’t make a power decision without political input. Merc is going to make a fuel hungry monster anymore considering their emphasis with road cars is environmentally conscious. The partnership of f1 to consumer cars has always been symbiotic. But if something had to give it feels like it’s F1 here. So then if power is going to be run by OEMs, customer cars are fucked. Unless you DRAMATICALLY change aero again. But doesn’t it feel we’ve cornered the teams into a box with the current business modes so that no matter what you change, the teams with the established teams will always adapt? I miss when Chapman was running and gunning or the true independents would pull a year out of their ass. I really do think major aero changes are needed. And not the sake ones that will never happen. They need to get more drastic. Otherwise limiting power and money, it only squeezes small teams further. Ironically I think this permanently cuts off Williams from recovering. The only third option is likely best but they won’t do it. Make the cars literally just about equal. Now that changes commercially everything I get it but what options do we have? Idk I’m cynical but you have your thoughts provoking comment to thanks for that haha cheers my friend
There's no clear path through this molasses because f1 is now world class. Any entity that dips into the billions automatically becomes a slave to the market and sadly politics. F1 is beholden to the car industry and that is currently a mess. Maybe this virus is the best thing for a radical shake up that our sport desperately needs. Finances has always been a mess because the sport has grown faster than it's governing body and the selfish needs of its various stakeholders.
If we go spec, we'll lose many manufacturers, the racing might improve but it wouldn't be an engineering challenge just a purely advertising business a la formula E. More show than go. That might be fine for some, but the engineer fascinates me.
Going radical with engines, aero or what ever will only incur new ever increasing expenses. Thankfully, the shutdown has given us and the stakeholders more than enough time to think it over.
I think this video settles the argument of " these drivers won the championship because of the car " ....
Thats because we can see from the data that all the championship winning drivers Ham , Seb , Michael and Senna were the consistent ones which actually made most of the teams points , though yes the second driver did contribute alot but saying that they won because of " the one who designed the car " is just bullcrap ... Like you said for ferrari and red bull that they did not always have the best car ( mercedes and mclaren maybe not so much ) but they always got the points and race wins and it was these drivers who did that .... I know the motive of this video is different but i think this is the best example for people to see stats wise why these drivers are considered greats and better than their teammates ....
Also the video and the statistical breakdown was incredible .. loved it and keep it up 👍
yeah I could't take it too far - but I've made it no secret what vettel did was one of the most impressive things we'll see. at times, he had the third worst car. when it was together, it was great. but perfect proof i posed on twitter and apparently broke it - how can it be ALL car AND webber also be considered such a good driver? for the record, mark is a great driver. but he never scored P2. in the same car. mostly the same. not once. yet vettel drove by himself to four titles. my 2012 and 2010 showcase I try to pay underhand tribute there but I think you have a good take. of course I can't say all of that but all these guys drove alone mostly. it's astounding how even michael fought kimi and montoya off. 2002 and 2004 were power years but I will remember michael most for his comeback in 2001 winning four straight. gave me chills bc seb had to do it in 2012 to beat alonso when he went 125/125 in asia. in the comments, that's something I can admit I want people to face square on but want to present it by the data. these drivers are other worldly talented
@@CYMotorsport thank you ...just thank you
Great video bud! Very interesting to see the statistics behind the dominance!
glad you enjoyed partner! was selfishly a fun one I've always wanted to do haha
@@CYMotorsport Well how dare you be selfish 😱😉 enjoyment for the topic def shone through!
You've done an incredible job explaining this data. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Saarang ! more to come!
Great Video as always (It cured my boredom and lack of F1, thanks!), but I feel this video more so compares the dominant drivers than teams... What I took away most from the video is that Sebastian Vettel is given less credit than he deserves for winning world titles in one of the most competitive seasons! If you look back into the video a key thing that was there with all the other constructor's dominant runs except Red Bull's is that their competition was either ill-prepared for regulation changes or the new drivers had just dropped in who lacked experience... which leads to an uncompetitive grid! The fact that amazes me is that Vettel single handedly beat not only his team mate but even the entire competition! and for 4 straight years (2013 saw one hell of a monster!)! I don't care if people believe that Vettel is now dead, but in my opinion, that era of Vettel (at least the 2013 year if not the other 3 years as well...) is the best driver the world has seen yet (I don't care if Hamilton wins a 1000 WDCs, the fact is he couldn't win against that Vettel)... And that is why I believe that someday we will once again see that Vettel again!
I got your back! yeah people downplay vettel so much for some reason. the grid was FULL of talent and he ran the table literally by himself
@@CYMotorsport Thanks so much, I thought I was going to get showered by haters! You are the best and most hardworking F1 TH-camr I know! It shows in your content! Always stay the same buddy! And keep bringing us more content like this... else we will die of boredom instead of the pandemic 🤣😂
@Prithvidiamond hmmm interesting comment. Vettel is a very narrow driver. He is very fast but like kimi, only in very specific dynamic cars. The blown redbulls fit him to a tee. That said, your "monster 2013" vettel was the result of a very specific regulatory change. Namely the changing of the tires post silverstone blow ups.
He barely beat Webber in 2010, in fact only led in the final race. The 2011 redbulls were absolute monsters, some of the most dominant cars f1 had ever seen. All bar 1 pole that year. IMO 2012 was his best season, it was close and he clinched it. That said, since the start of the hybrid era he's faulted. Why? Both Alonso and Hamilton have shined regardless of what they're driving. Vettel not so much, bested convincingly by Daniel and charles.
I feel the hate he gets is unwarranted. He's still an amazing drivers but even in his heyday was inferior to lewis and fernando.
@@Bahamuttiamat Hamilton also lost out to JB in his McLaren season (2011 I think), so you saying Hamilton is shit? No! Granted JB isn't a rookie but still, Loosing to your team mate no matter who it is, is not good for any driver, but that doesn't have to undermine their performance or skill...
There's a difference, both lewis and fernando lost to JB. It's not only the points score but how? Lewis had many dnf's that year, countless incidents with massa. He didn't lose because he was slower or JB out drove him. Daniel definitely outdrove Seb. It was embarrassing. The same thing with nico and lewis. Nico won the championship but by every measure he was the inferior driver of the two (less wins, poles, podiums while starting on the front row at every race bar one (austria).
Well yes, losing to your teammate does undermine your skill and performance because it the only other driver that shares the same car. Whenever Seb is partnered with a young hotshot, he loses.
2017-2019 Mercedes 1-2 rate with Bottas as same as Ferrari 00-04. Mercedes cars still dominant after 2017 rules change. Engine token system definitely hurt F1's competition
horrendously crippled it - you're spot on
well, in 2017, 2019 bottas performed pretty well compared to barichello
They were mainly dominant in 2019. Ferrari was more or less on par in 2018 and not far off (at least in terms of race pace) in 2017 - this is still miles better than what we had between 2014 and 2016.
@@ksfreestylers1146 2016 and 2018 are where Bottas and Nico diverge. Their other 4 seasons are remarkably similar, but Bottas outperformed Rosberg :as he had much stiffer opposition in an ascendant Max ;and a Vettel/Leclerc Ferrari that was far more formidable than the 2014-2016 RedBull and Williams Rosberg faced.
Awesome content mate. Love from down under🦘
Really like these videos :)
I apologize if this was mentioned in the video and I just didn't catch it, but the Hamilton/Rosberg dominance can also be attributed to that pairing of drivers occurring during the first three years of the hybrid era, which Mercedes was clearly more prepared for than every other team. In 2017, following Nico's exit from the sport, other teams had had plenty of time to catch up, and though I do believe Rosberg would've fared better than Bottas for the past three seasons, I think it's important to note (although it obviously does not change statistics).
Agreed. I feel this is a point not emphasised enough. The token system definitely gave mercedes an advantage in 2014, but by 2015 ferrari was vastly improved. Rosberg often appears statistically better than bottas because he drove in an era with stifling mercedes dominance. I don't think Nico would perform any better post 2017 relative to bottas.
100%, very surprised this isn't mentioned considering how much implied comparison is made between Bottas and Rosberg! For me, Rosberg is clearly the better driver of those two. But I think we would see the same diminishing-dominance trends with him still in the seat due to the diminishing returns in performance improvements they suffer compared to the rest of the field
that's anti the data, though. Lewis didn't decline. you'd have a point if they both did. they didn't. it seems as though you're adding information but it sounds emotional. that's perfectly fine if you add it, I personally can't do that for obvious reasons. I don't believe the start of the era had anything at all to do with it. For some reason, people apologize for Bottas failing to win a single race. not 1? that's not the other cars picking up. as far as data goes, it's clear as day. But if there's other information, you should factor it in! I just can't that's all but this isn't the end all be all analysis I hope you find places to input any relevant data that can prove what you just said!
@@CYMotorsport The Data would be the number of races won 2014-2016 where Mercedes didn't have shunts or Mechanical issues vs 2017-2019. 2018 was a poor season but arguably good enough for P3 in 2014-2016. Bottas was guaranteed P6 in 2018 but no more with an energized Raikkonen. Vettel and Ricciardo arguably outdrove Rosberg in 2014-2015 to finish a relatively close 3rd.
Can you imagine Senna in one of these modern rocket ships???
🤤🤤🤤
Excellent work
Glad you enjoyed it! Watch event horizon last night ps haha weird
The data is so good I forgot it was a 27min video! Damn I loved it!!
You want to make fall and rise of honda
that absolutely will be done!
Dark epic It’s more like a rise, fall, rise, fall, and another rise
0:11 tabacc tabacc tabacc tabacc
Lol I know right
Your channel is keeping me sane amidst lockdown
I got you Raymond. Cooking up a vid now though I’m struggling with it haha
Between you and Peter Windsor, I'm about to talk with my friends about stats and understanding of why, some guys are winners with or without the "best" car. Keep up the great work, I learn something new EVERY time, I watch your videos.
Couldn’t accept that compliment given I’m well aware of what Peter has seen with his own two eyes of this sport but I’m very thankful in your world that can be true haha and I’m happy to hear that your are challenged! That’s a really good topic - I’m a numbers guy so that’s nearly impossible but let me kick it around. All great videos start here
This is proof:
Schumacher made Ferrari.
Mercedes made Hamilton.
Mclaren, actually
I’m not even gonna watch the vid just cause I’m not interested lol. Anyway my opinion is that Shumacher is the most dominant racer in F1 history, but Mercedes turbo hybrid is the most dominant team. It’s funny cause without Brawn and Schumacher Mercedes would probably be the worst team still
I disagree SAB is SAB
don t cry, lol
Muchas Gracias!!!! eres un grande, dios te bendiga por el trabajo y el cariño desplegado hacia el periodismo y la máxima categoría
Man great video!!! Thanks for the awsome vid
Sincerely my pleasure
Mercedes might be more dominant but Ferrari will always be a more passionate and popular team❤️
that's for you to make up your mind! I bury in there based on these time periods, Michael was more dominant as a lone driver IMO. his car wasn't even the best at all times. the people underrate Montoya heavily bc he came from cart despite being a reserve driver first for Frank. but can't fight the passion - no arguments from me there regarding Ferrari!
CrankyYankeeF1 you think Michael Schumacher was a better formula 1 driver than Lewis Hamilton?
Lol if they were any passionate they would've built a better car than Mercedes, having put in more money than Mercedes.
They are absolutely overrated. Micheal was good. Ferrari wasn't.
@@lolboicam1711 excuse me but could you please show me the 31 championships won by Mercedes? Didn't think so
Lewis Hamilton For Life❤️
and for many more years! I think he'll welcome someone taking the crown. and I look forward to the battle :)
Love your videos keep it going
thanks sheldon! and you got it :)
Class video 🔥 you never disappoint
glad you like it George!
So far what these stats are showing is how trash Bottas is lmao. He's a key factor to why their dominance has declined after Rosberg left
I've never ever ever ever understand why no one said a damn word when he won ZERO grand prix and was off the podium half the races. I'm already getting a tad amount of heat for it but it's the data. I didn't make it up haha. everyone is just now seeing it. the second daniel left, one more spot to move up while ferrair tripped over themselves. its why I had him in my pre season prediction at P5 again. I hope he proves me wrong!
Worse than Barrichello but he was allowed to race Lewis though.
@@misterhistoryman2214 Replace Bottas with Nico you might see another intra team battle at Mercedes.
@@TheKestevon Aside from a few team order instances, Barrichelo was *100%* allowed to race Schumi, anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional
Aside from a few instances both of them were allowed to race Lewis and Schumi.
They simply weren't capable of doing a good job at racing againts them
Barichelo and Bottas are second drivers for a reason, because they are nowhere near the level of the 1st drivers
Fantastic Analysis!
Absolutely awesome video as always. Can't say I would change the rankings, very detailed. Williams shot themselves in the foot otherwise might of seen the longest reign of anyone, if you linked that mid 80's to early 90's phase. Damn, awesome stuff. Lastly, might I recommend the a video topic, per era, most underrated F1 driver. Currently Checo comes to mind but Jean Alesi and what not, might be interesting to dig through that data. Thanks again! :)
Dude, you make F1 interesting, even when there is no F1 at the moment. Top quality content.
glad you enjoy it!