I’m not entirely sure if those could be called MARPAT clones, as a lot of them are just the original MARPAT pattern entirely unaltered, that or civilian bought variants
Some bizarre trend of Middle Eastern countires using darker green/brown woodland camo with black colors, eventhough their environment is light/moderately brown with some light olive green.
@@Nathan-jh1hoUnfortunately, many of us here in the West are still under the assumption that the entire Middle East is one huge, uninterrupted desert. It's simply not true. At all. There are many places in the Middle East where there are wooded area. Not lightly wooded, either. Just look at Lebanon and parts of Iraq, just to name a few examples.
@hewhoplugwalks I've bever seen a combat footage in Syria or Iraq where the M81/Marpat woodland would be best suitable compared to multicam. I know there are some places that they would be, but those are the minority by far. Even in the Midwest temperate woodland here in the US those camo tends to be too dark unless laying on the ground. And it's much geener (in summer) and darker here that probably 95% of the region.
Oh it’s also possible nobody really tries to share cadpat because the Canadian forces have always been real specific about not letting anything in cadpat sell onto the civilian market , like that was love when they shared it with the Marines
@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial Probably repro but that looking at the latest CGCM (which deems what is and is not protected) couldn't find it anywhere in it anymore.
ROKPAT is a small cutout tile of CADPAT/MARPAT (you can see how often it repeats on the back of jackets). It's colored similarly to MARPAT, but with a lighter base and the green and black reversed.
The Marines really did end up with the best camouflage patterns/using coyote brown as their LBE color. Even now their patterns still work very well. I don’t like multicam; it only works in arid/fall backgrounds.
I remember reading that the Marines spent somewhere in the couple hundred thousand dollar range developing their uniforms that were widely well received. The Army and Air Force spent in the couple million dollar range developing their uniforms that were famously hated.
Exactly, especially when you watch footage from Ukraine. Multicam is so easy to see, it’s essentially a tan-dominate pattern. I basically only run ATACS variants, I think they’re the best in terms of tactical camouflage hands down.
Another MARPAT inspired camo is the one developed for the Royal Canadian Army Cadets. It came out sometime in the mid 2000s and colour and pattern wise, it's practically indistinguishable from MARPAT (sans EGAs, of course). It never really caught on so they still continue to use the OG uniforms.
Brazilian BOPE, from Rio, made famous by the Elite Squad movie, has adopted a clone of MARPAT too, since 2012-2014. There are a number of variants, some looking very close to the USMC version, some very different. Suggest people interested in looking into that.
@@BassFlapper it's curious too because before that, BOPE standard camouflage/uniform was black, which is well known for not being a good camouflage and being specially hot in warmer climates, which was the case. It was mostly adopted because of the psychological aspect of a police force wearing an all black uniform. But then they adopted MARPAT for actual practicality.
In Panama Senafront (Frontier police) adopted Marpat around early 2010's ditching out the old M81 woodland BDUs, all those uniforms are original but you can purchase a cheap copy in local surplus stores
I just tested MARPAT and in the description I made sure to mention CADPAT. That knowledge was thanks to your videos btw, even as a Marine I had no idea it was basically a stolen, or what we Marines call "acquired", camo pattern =)
I think Georgia also had some copy of MARPAT back in 2008. I remember when they were being attacked by russia the news photos showed guys in what looked like MARPAT.
@@mike-yn3mn I just remember being confused because I saw the uniforms in the news. Then I saw their rifles and realized they weren't US Marines in Georgia (the state). Mind you I was half awake when I first heard about it.
The Georgians also had Interceptor body armor in the same MARPAT-like camo vs. the Marine's solid coyote brown. It was interesting to see what the USMC would have looked like if they had gone with pixelated body armor covers.
Russia also used MARPAT, made by SRVV and Emerson, but it was more on an individual basis and they've used nearly every pattern at some point, so it's not that spectacular. It was both seen with FSB and SSO special forces in Russia and Syria, and in some random instances by regular troops in Ukraine too.
Amazing video and presentation as always. Is there any plans to go over the history and variants of US FROG equipment? and the variants and contracts between major producers to distinguish between them?
2:27 that blue tape is written in traditional Chinese (Blue army artilleryman) and it just happens in the Taiwanese Army, your job title is on a blue tape above your name tape While Taiwan also used a digital pattern it was dark green dominant
I love how when Canada has good equipment ; the marines are happy to just copy it , lavs; cadpat s etc American army? Nah they gotta change the whole thing lol and then break it
@@elevenb6967 the one that chose to buy nukes Canada, doesn’t have nukes If you mean like in a given battle depends are we put up equal numbers of soldiers Or is it the entire us militsry against the entire Canadian
@@ShmuckCanuck Yes, by all means, let's call that logic. The U.S. Army doesn't have nukes, genius. "Equal number of soldiers"? LMAO! Can you just see it? Yeah, we'll fight you. But only if the numbers are equal. Only that's decidedly not how war works. So, there goes your 'logic'. If China invaded you, do you think your CADPAT would save you? No sir. It would be the United States ARMY. Show some respect, nuck.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a video on The experimental Tiger camo that was competing against MARPAT rhat apparently was better received than marpat itself
As a Canadian, I'll make a couple of observations. 1. The USMC improved upon CADPAT, which shows in the newish CADPAT MT. 2. Most countries shouldn't even try to wear berets because they don't know how to shape them. As a result, they either look like chefs or like they have pie plates on their heads. Either way, they look ridiculous.
CADPAT for some reason is hard to replicate because 1. the Government would destroy any extra uniform not being issued to there are less of those on surplus stores. And 2. For some reason it's hard to see someone on nods when they wear it. ( Sorce: th-cam.com/video/hwzubPWavqs/w-d-xo.html )
bruh when i went down to China recently i saw tons of Chinese Army and Chinese Air Force personnel wearin these digital camo patterns wherever i go! i was down at Guangzhou! 👍🏽
Try standing in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba in CADPAT TW. :D Even the Canadian Forces are switching to CADPAT MT (Multi-Terrain) which as a Multi-cam like color palette.
MARPAT clones have and are also very widely used in Syria, particularly by the YPG and SDF where the woodland pattern is practically standard issue
I’m not entirely sure if those could be called MARPAT clones, as a lot of them are just the original MARPAT pattern entirely unaltered, that or civilian bought variants
@ohnoes3084 the Kurdish marpat uses o
a more bright mint green shade of green
Some bizarre trend of Middle Eastern countires using darker green/brown woodland camo with black colors, eventhough their environment is light/moderately brown with some light olive green.
@@Nathan-jh1hoUnfortunately, many of us here in the West are still under the assumption that the entire Middle East is one huge, uninterrupted desert. It's simply not true. At all.
There are many places in the Middle East where there are wooded area. Not lightly wooded, either. Just look at Lebanon and parts of Iraq, just to name a few examples.
@hewhoplugwalks I've bever seen a combat footage in Syria or Iraq where the M81/Marpat woodland would be best suitable compared to multicam. I know there are some places that they would be, but those are the minority by far. Even in the Midwest temperate woodland here in the US those camo tends to be too dark unless laying on the ground. And it's much geener (in summer) and darker here that probably 95% of the region.
Oh it’s also possible nobody really tries to share cadpat because the Canadian forces have always been real specific about not letting anything in cadpat sell onto the civilian market , like that was love when they shared it with the Marines
oof well i got a uniform sitting in my collection so someone fucked up
Dude go to any canadian army surplus store, yes it's illegal to sell buts it's everywhere
They even have knock off cadpats now like milspex
@@ASlickNamedPimpback is it real or repro
@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial Probably repro but that looking at the latest CGCM (which deems what is and is not protected) couldn't find it anywhere in it anymore.
The ROK Army's special forces uniform uses a woodland MARPAT inspired pattern too. A little more green dominant but pretty similar
ROKPAT is a small cutout tile of CADPAT/MARPAT (you can see how often it repeats on the back of jackets). It's colored similarly to MARPAT, but with a lighter base and the green and black reversed.
@@MrDK0010yeah it seems to have more brown than green on the korean ones. I also love the korean marines
The Marines really did end up with the best camouflage patterns/using coyote brown as their LBE color. Even now their patterns still work very well. I don’t like multicam; it only works in arid/fall backgrounds.
I remember reading that the Marines spent somewhere in the couple hundred thousand dollar range developing their uniforms that were widely well received. The Army and Air Force spent in the couple million dollar range developing their uniforms that were famously hated.
It's only ok in desert/ really arid areas too. Idk, I think the idea of a "universal" camo is self defeating.
Exactly, especially when you watch footage from Ukraine. Multicam is so easy to see, it’s essentially a tan-dominate pattern. I basically only run ATACS variants, I think they’re the best in terms of tactical camouflage hands down.
@@judelarkin2883I thought the army spent like close to a billion between the ACU and Multivam uniforms.
@@huasohvac the couple million was just the research and development cost. It doesn’t include the actual purchase of any issued uniform.
S tier camo
The patterns can be bigger, turns into a solid color at farther distances.
Solid green or tan in marpet woodland? @@Nathan-jh1ho
@@lil__boi3027they mix into some olive color
Another MARPAT inspired camo is the one developed for the Royal Canadian Army Cadets. It came out sometime in the mid 2000s and colour and pattern wise, it's practically indistinguishable from MARPAT (sans EGAs, of course). It never really caught on so they still continue to use the OG uniforms.
You forgot some of the biggest users of MARPAT Woodland copy: Bosnia-Herzegovina & Chile
Pencott did a spin-off of Marpat too. Called Pencott Leatherneck!
Please do a video on the Chinese Type 65 uniform an its later variants, the Type 71 and 78.
Brazilian BOPE, from Rio, made famous by the Elite Squad movie, has adopted a clone of MARPAT too, since 2012-2014. There are a number of variants, some looking very close to the USMC version, some very different. Suggest people interested in looking into that.
Just googled it looks really interesting. Looks almost the dame but has more vertical elements.
i know them because of R6 Siege
@@BassFlapper it's curious too because before that, BOPE standard camouflage/uniform was black, which is well known for not being a good camouflage and being specially hot in warmer climates, which was the case. It was mostly adopted because of the psychological aspect of a police force wearing an all black uniform. But then they adopted MARPAT for actual practicality.
In Panama Senafront (Frontier police) adopted Marpat around early 2010's ditching out the old M81 woodland BDUs, all those uniforms are original but you can purchase a cheap copy in local surplus stores
I just tested MARPAT and in the description I made sure to mention CADPAT. That knowledge was thanks to your videos btw, even as a Marine I had no idea it was basically a stolen, or what we Marines call "acquired", camo pattern =)
The US military really developed the three best camo patterns in the world, so much so that alot of friendly and enemy forces use marpat and multicam
Could you do an episode about COD MW II/III's Shadow Company Uniform/Kit?
Awesome & Fascinating video
Thank you for another great video!
I think Georgia also had some copy of MARPAT back in 2008. I remember when they were being attacked by russia the news photos showed guys in what looked like MARPAT.
I definitely remember seeing the same. Georgian soldiers wearing digital camouflage with much bigger pixels.
@@mike-yn3mn I just remember being confused because I saw the uniforms in the news. Then I saw their rifles and realized they weren't US Marines in Georgia (the state). Mind you I was half awake when I first heard about it.
The Georgians also had Interceptor body armor in the same MARPAT-like camo vs. the Marine's solid coyote brown. It was interesting to see what the USMC would have looked like if they had gone with pixelated body armor covers.
They did have a MARPAT clone. I saw one of their officers at the chowhall wearing MARPAT in Ft. Sill in 2008
I would love to see an episode on the history of Hungarian uniforms or camo
Awesome Video!
Russia also used MARPAT, made by SRVV and Emerson, but it was more on an individual basis and they've used nearly every pattern at some point, so it's not that spectacular. It was both seen with FSB and SSO special forces in Russia and Syria, and in some random instances by regular troops in Ukraine too.
Finally a new video!!!!
Thanks! :D
What about the Jamaican Defence Force copy of the woodland MARPAT/CADPAT uniforms?
Amazing video and presentation as always. Is there any plans to go over the history and variants of US FROG equipment? and the variants and contracts between major producers to distinguish between them?
Can people please stop confusing MARPAT and AOR2? If you aren't sure if it's MARPAT, it probably isn't MARPAT.
Very interesting, good video
2:27 that blue tape is written in traditional Chinese (Blue army artilleryman) and it just happens in the Taiwanese Army, your job title is on a blue tape above your name tape
While Taiwan also used a digital pattern it was dark green dominant
Will we see the same video about woodland and multicam or any other like flecktarn?
Isn’t the UPDW green variant in your video actually Digital DPM? In any case you should do a video on Digital DPM
You make a video on North and South Vietnamese Camo make it cool video
I love how when Canada has good equipment ; the marines are happy to just copy it , lavs; cadpat s etc
American army?
Nah they gotta change the whole thing lol and then break it
Okay, but whose army is stronger?
@@elevenb6967 the one that chose to buy nukes
Canada, doesn’t have nukes
If you mean like in a given battle depends are we put up equal numbers of soldiers
Or is it the entire us militsry against the entire Canadian
@@ShmuckCanuck
Oh brother. -___-
@@elevenb6967 what? You seem upset by me applying logic
@@ShmuckCanuck
Yes, by all means, let's call that logic.
The U.S. Army doesn't have nukes, genius.
"Equal number of soldiers"? LMAO! Can you just see it?
Yeah, we'll fight you. But only if the numbers are equal. Only that's decidedly not how war works. So, there goes your 'logic'.
If China invaded you, do you think your CADPAT would save you? No sir. It would be the United States ARMY. Show some respect, nuck.
Jamaica also has their own
Last time I was this early the US was wearing solid green!!
I believe one of Greece’s maritime special operations units was using a MARPAT clone for a while.
Can you do a video on the Russian gorka suit or the new emr camo they've been using that's kinda has the same shades as multicam?
Would you do a video on S2000?
Uganda’s may be an upgrade. I think that brown is a good addition
Do you have any Marpat?
👍👍
All of those countries have had multi year training events with the USMC
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do a video on The experimental Tiger camo that was competing against MARPAT rhat apparently was better received than marpat itself
As a Canadian, I'll make a couple of observations. 1. The USMC improved upon CADPAT, which shows in the newish CADPAT MT. 2. Most countries shouldn't even try to wear berets because they don't know how to shape them. As a result, they either look like chefs or like they have pie plates on their heads. Either way, they look ridiculous.
MARPAT in itself is a clone. Leave it to the 911 clowns to think they own digital camouflage. CADPAT was first.
What camo has the most clones?
CADPAT for some reason is hard to replicate because 1. the Government would destroy any extra uniform not being issued to there are less of those on surplus stores. And 2. For some reason it's hard to see someone on nods when they wear it.
( Sorce: th-cam.com/video/hwzubPWavqs/w-d-xo.html )
bruh when i went down to China recently i saw tons of Chinese Army and Chinese Air Force personnel wearin these digital camo patterns wherever i go! i was down at Guangzhou! 👍🏽
Wow
Its bc marpat covers more a broad range of environments
Was I right in thinking there was a nation in central America or the Caribbean that wear a MARPAT clone?
Talkin about marpat clones when marpat and ucp are cadpat clones...marpat has a cool color scheme, though, but still less effective than cadpat, tbh
Try standing in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba in CADPAT TW. :D Even the Canadian Forces are switching to CADPAT MT (Multi-Terrain) which as a Multi-cam like color palette.
Doesn't Armenia have their iteration of MARPAT?
Bananas how that fad took off with so little evidence for effectiveness.
Do they all come with free crayons too?
"Hello my fellow soldiers-- I know your little joke. Im one of you. Im in on it"
@@zgSH4DOW
Wait. Isn’t marpat a clone of cadpat?
Inspired is better way to put it.
Don’t you mean CADPAT clones? MARPAT was a derivative of CADPAT………
other than the fact that are both pixelated the patterns are not the same
@@Mr2greys That is incorrect.
All from cadpat roots