This is exactly what my instructor make me to practice at the beginning of my tailwheel training. Super helpful to get familiar with the rudder control and remember the sight picture. Great video!
Great content. I’m a rusty pilot returning to flying after a 27 year absence and having trouble landing a Cessna 177 Cardinal. My problem is simple. I’m trying to flare instead of transitioning in ground effect and the stabilator doesn’t like my technique. I’m looking forward to my next trip to the airport to apply the lessons learned from watching several of your videos. Updates coming.
When learning to fly... Exactly like you 😅😅 then it clicks, and now I'm an ok'ish pilot landing 😆 Great you're going to the air again. All good to you.
I had this demonstrated to me thirty years ago in primary flight training when I was having trouble with landings. My instructor growled at me "Give me the wheel and let me show you what you can do." Then he did a go around, back into the pattern, and just as we were about to set wheels down on the runway, he gave it a little throttle, set us up in near stall, and then we went down about a 4000 foot runway six inches off the surface. He would tap the right wheel on the pavement, then the left, then the right. We danced all the way down... It was magic. And it taught me how much control you had in landing.
I learned in a Warrior and when I joined a flying club we have a 172. I had a hard time with the landing due to a different sight picture. I watched your video awhile back and Ace them now. I now have a super cub and had the same issue went back to what you taught and am getting really good at landing on a dime and short. I also practice slow flight just about every time I take it up. Was the best advice I ever received. Thanks
This is also helpful for learning crosswind landings. You correct for the wind, get the wheels aligned with the runway, go as far as you can, flying low and over the center line, but not landing. (Gives you more time/experience in that critical phase, versus actually landing) Thanks for the video.
22/22 - I hate to admit this but even after being member of MZA for 3+ years I have yet to do this simple but effective exercise. I'm making a commitment to do this the very next time I fly.
I do this with my learners that have hit the wall in landings. Some hit the wall, some don’t. Everyone takes a while to figure out landings, but some hit a plateau that I call the wall, and no matter how many pattern lessons, or slow flight lessons you do will break it, slow flight down the runway does the trick. CFII in NC
I learned slow flight down the runway from a CFI that went to the airlines 2 months later. I appreciated his experience and surprised the other two CFIs I flew with did not teach that.
22 for 22. Did this with my CFI to help improve my crosswind landings. He simply had me fly down the runway cross controlled holding the nose on centerline. We did it 3 times, then made a full stop. Since then, I think my crosswind landings are better than my no wind, or no cross wind landings.
I recall seeing this video previously and it was super helpful in improving my landings !!! Thanks again for a great refresher 🇨🇦👍👍. I’m all for 22 for 22!!
22 4 22 hello Jason, after I have a quick glance at my peripheral views I have learned to train myself to keep those eyes focussed looking for the end of the runway where before I was too busy looking out the sides to judge my height into the transition. When it’s possible for me to get permission from the Air Traffic Controller I enjoy the odd time doing high-speed taxi with the front wheel off the Ground and applying Rutter and small applications to align myself with the centreline. Low approaches are done slightly higher than yours which enables me to get used to the application of power on enough to stop my sink rate and still maintain enough air speed to be ever so slightly above stall speed. This was all done shortly after I acquired a older Cherokee 180 C from transitioning over from a 172R . Made the world a difference as the Hershey bar Cherokees require a little different finesse. As always I so much appreciate your enthusiasm and great tips to help us keep flying safer
22 for 22. Made it through Lesson 9 with lots of notes and several more review sessions needed. Slow flight down the runway is high on my list of things to practice and perfect.
I practiced slow flight over the runway and loved it. It improves you confidence flying a few feet over the runway. Request low pass with the option. The other maneuver a CFI taught me that improved my confidence was stalling the airplane with coordinated rudder to demonstrate that the airplane will stall but will not spin if the ball is centered. The plane stalls the nose only drops. Great videos B TW.
🛑🛫📖🛬🛑 Hanging in there with you all the way, Jason. Remember back when I first spoke with you and told you how much I hated the word "flare!" That word really messes with the mind of the student in their learning phase and presents an unnecessary obstacle for them to deal with. Transition transition transition! And you are absolutely correct that slow flight down the runway is an immense breakthrough maneuver to teach not only the struggling student but also the old hand also. Btw: Speaking about slow fight; Do you ever use the Grease pencil dot on the windscreen while configured for slow, flight at altitude, and practice drawing the different patterns like box, rectangle, ect.??? Best regards always 📖🛐✈️🐆
Yep, got made to go down the entire length of a Class C airport's runway multiple times in the three point attitude few feet to few inches off the ground. Definitely helped.
Another good one is practicing slow flight descents (at a safe altitude). Helps tremendously when doing short field landings and makes you a safer pilot because you will know the envelope of your plane in both descending and landing configurations without the help of ground effect. My piper 140's final approach speed is around 75 MPH (full flaps), but it is still very flyable on a 500'/ min decent at 55 to 60 MPH.
Best way to learn to land when learning to fly...my instructor told me to see if I could fly down the runway 6" off of the ground the plane settled slightly and I made my first perfect landing...after that it was easy to do perfect landings (at least low wind landings that is)...48 years ago and it seems like yesterday.
22 for 22: I did slow flight down the runway for last year's safer pilot challenge. And yes, it was a game changer for my landings!!!! I recommend everyone add this to their practices sessions.
My instrucctor would not let me fly slow. Had some training with a bush pilot he wanted me to feel the stall at altitude of course. The controls will tell you. Feel it cause sneaking into a small lake you may be to busy to check airspeed. Was a great lesson to learn.
With the nosewheel connected to the ridder a recipe for disaster. If you let the nosewheel drop - easy to do - and you have the rudder and nosewheel pointed off the runway (because you’ve said the rudder is so effective so it’s being used) standby for an fast exploration of the airfield boundary or ground loop. Ok for skilled pilot but a rubbish idea for beginners.
My instructor had me land on the mains, upwind wheel first on crosswinds, then keep the nose wheel off the ground without letting the mains leave the pavement for as long as I can or we run out of runway. Really helped dial in stick, rudder and throttle control. Improved all my landings but dramatically helped with my crosswind landings.
Another great exercise (at least for me) - "wheelie" (not sure if right name, as I'm not native speaker). Just riding on main wheels only down the runway. Not sure if it is good idea with concrete rwy, I was practicing my on soft field.
With 7 hours of flight time, I'm getting ready to solo. We did slow flight down an 8700 ft runway on my last lesson. Runway 35 with winds 090 at 9 knots. Game changer for sure.
Your videos are great if I could I would look you up for private license. But I’m a big guy at 390 lbs and I don’t think I would fit in them training planes.
If there is a crosswind and the ailerons are so sloppy, does your ability to stay over the centerline get affected? I heard you say the rudder still works, but it would seem you'd need both aileron and rudder to maintain centerline. I'll give this a try, but just curious about how a crosswind affects slow flight down the runway.
Hey Jason I’m very close to going on my PPL checkride, I’m part of a 141 school. In your opinion does a 141 school prepare you better for a check ride since I have to take a EOC before it?
Student, or a rusty pilot that now believes he can't land for shit. Tell them they are to do a low pass, a foot or two above the runway, to their best judgment. If they touch the runway with wheels, that's OK. Constraint you give them is that whatever power setting they had on final, they are to keep above the runway. Do not touch the power. It is impossible to keep the plane flying at that power setting. Instructors job is to make sure they lift the nose only so high that nose wheel is above mains, and not so high to have a tail strike. And to really be a couple of feet above runway. In some cases, a bit of coaching may be needed. Lower, still too high... It is impossible to keep the plane flying like this, and it will gently settle to the ground on them. Then tell them to CUT POWER. You have eaten away plenty of runway, and unless you are at JFK, it is a taxi back, rinse, repeat. At this point, I usually tell them "what do you mean you can't land? This was the best landing I ever saw!". A confidence builder. From here, have them cut power when they are a foot above runway, then a bit higher, then above the numbers, then middle of roundout, then before roundout, and make sure they have that hand on throttle, and that they know they can always prop up the plane with a bit of power if things go wonky, or just plain go around. Even if they are wheels on ground, they can go around. As long as there is runway left that is.
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In the Air Force, we call that a Landing Attitude Demo (LAD). It is very useful to get your landing picture. Thanks Jason 22/22
22 for 22. I have not tried slow flight over the runway yet, so I'll definitely will be adding this to my list to practice. Thanks Jason.
This is exactly what my instructor make me to practice at the beginning of my tailwheel training. Super helpful to get familiar with the rudder control and remember the sight picture. Great video!
Great content. I’m a rusty pilot returning to flying after a 27 year absence and having trouble landing a Cessna 177 Cardinal. My problem is simple. I’m trying to flare instead of transitioning in ground effect and the stabilator doesn’t like my technique. I’m looking forward to my next trip to the airport to apply the lessons learned from watching several of your videos. Updates coming.
Don’t stop flying the airplane bob. Keep it up and fly with a good instructor.
When learning to fly... Exactly like you 😅😅 then it clicks, and now I'm an ok'ish pilot landing 😆
Great you're going to the air again. All good to you.
Excellent exercise to do!!!
Amazingly overlooked as a necessary training procedure….
This is what one I’ll definitely do when I feel better and the weather is good.
This video had me on the edge of my chair. It seems like this procedure take some finesse.
I had this demonstrated to me thirty years ago in primary flight training when I was having trouble with landings. My instructor growled at me "Give me the wheel and let me show you what you can do." Then he did a go around, back into the pattern, and just as we were about to set wheels down on the runway, he gave it a little throttle, set us up in near stall, and then we went down about a 4000 foot runway six inches off the surface. He would tap the right wheel on the pavement, then the left, then the right. We danced all the way down... It was magic. And it taught me how much control you had in landing.
I learned in a Warrior and when I joined a flying club we have a 172. I had a hard time with the landing due to a different sight picture. I watched your video awhile back and Ace them now. I now have a super cub and had the same issue went back to what you taught and am getting really good at landing on a dime and short. I also practice slow flight just about every time I take it up. Was the best advice I ever received. Thanks
22 for 22. cant wait to get out and try this. Thanks
22 for 22, I've done a bit of slow flight down the runway, but never felt 100% confident doing it. Something I need to do again, thank you MzeroA!
22 for 22! Love this series. Airport in my area has an 11,440ft runway
22 for 22. Haven't done this yet, but want to. Thank you.
Oh yeah I'm trying this. Thanks for the tip! I'll find a long runway
This is also helpful for learning crosswind landings. You correct for the wind, get the wheels aligned with the runway, go as far as you can, flying low and over the center line, but not landing. (Gives you more time/experience in that critical phase, versus actually landing)
Thanks for the video.
I appreciate you Jason!! All of your videos are so helpful and informative! Keep up the great work. Thank you!
That was EXCELLENT!!! Thank you for this tIp.
Glad it was helpful!
22 for 22. You ROCK!!!!!
22 for 22! I can’t believe how fast January is going!!
22/22 - I hate to admit this but even after being member of MZA for 3+ years I have yet to do this simple but effective exercise. I'm making a commitment to do this the very next time I fly.
I do this with my learners that have hit the wall in landings. Some hit the wall, some don’t. Everyone takes a while to figure out landings, but some hit a plateau that I call the wall, and no matter how many pattern lessons, or slow flight lessons you do will break it, slow flight down the runway does the trick. CFII in NC
I learned slow flight down the runway from a CFI that went to the airlines 2 months later. I appreciated his experience and surprised the other two CFIs I flew with did not teach that.
22 for 22, nice meeting you and your lovely wife at OSH21! See you both again and keep up the great videos, thanks
22 for 22. Did this with my CFI to help improve my crosswind landings. He simply had me fly down the runway cross controlled holding the nose on centerline. We did it 3 times, then made a full stop. Since then, I think my crosswind landings are better than my no wind, or no cross wind landings.
I recall seeing this video previously and it was super helpful in improving my landings !!! Thanks again for a great refresher 🇨🇦👍👍. I’m all for 22 for 22!!
Hey Jason, I am 22 for 22! 😊
22 4 22 hello Jason, after I have a quick glance at my peripheral views I have learned to train myself to keep those eyes focussed looking for the end of the runway where before I was too busy looking out the sides to judge my height into the transition. When it’s possible for me to get permission from the Air Traffic Controller I enjoy the odd time doing high-speed taxi with the front wheel off the Ground and applying Rutter and small applications to align myself with the centreline. Low approaches are done slightly higher than yours which enables me to get used to the application of power on enough to stop my sink rate and still maintain enough air speed to be ever so slightly above stall speed. This was all done shortly after I acquired a older Cherokee 180 C from transitioning over from a 172R . Made the world a difference as the Hershey bar Cherokees require a little different finesse. As always I so much appreciate your enthusiasm and great tips to help us keep flying safer
22 for 22. Made it through Lesson 9 with lots of notes and several more review sessions needed. Slow flight down the runway is high on my list of things to practice and perfect.
Thanks Jason. It was as if this video was speaking directly to me lol. Thank you! Hopefully my instructor will be cool with us practising this.
Interesting concept. I have never done it but will try it on my next flight.
I practiced slow flight over the runway and loved it. It improves you confidence flying a few feet over the runway. Request low pass with the option. The other maneuver a CFI taught me that improved my confidence was stalling the airplane with coordinated rudder to demonstrate that the airplane will stall but will not spin if the ball is centered. The plane stalls the nose only drops. Great videos B TW.
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Hanging in there with you all the way, Jason.
Remember back when I first spoke with you and told you how much I hated the word "flare!"
That word really messes with the mind of the student in their learning phase and presents an unnecessary obstacle for them to deal with.
Transition transition transition!
And you are absolutely correct that slow flight down the runway is an immense breakthrough maneuver to teach not only the struggling student but also the old hand also.
Btw:
Speaking about slow fight;
Do you ever use the Grease pencil dot on the windscreen while configured for slow, flight at altitude, and practice drawing the different patterns like box, rectangle, ect.???
Best regards always
📖🛐✈️🐆
Yep, got made to go down the entire length of a Class C airport's runway multiple times in the three point attitude few feet to few inches off the ground. Definitely helped.
22 4 22. I have done this before, will bring it back to my current flight bag of tricks
Another good one is practicing slow flight descents (at a safe altitude). Helps tremendously when doing short field landings and makes you a safer pilot because you will know the envelope of your plane in both descending and landing configurations without the help of ground effect. My piper 140's final approach speed is around 75 MPH (full flaps), but it is still very flyable on a 500'/ min decent at 55 to 60 MPH.
Landing are a masterpiece of flying
22/22 heading for 31/31. Great lesson!
22:22. Thank you Jason for the tips!
Best way to learn to land when learning to fly...my instructor told me to see if I could fly down the runway 6" off of the ground the plane settled slightly and I made my first perfect landing...after that it was easy to do perfect landings (at least low wind landings that is)...48 years ago and it seems like yesterday.
22/22 can’t wait to practice this just for fun!
22 for 22: I did slow flight down the runway for last year's safer pilot challenge. And yes, it was a game changer for my landings!!!! I recommend everyone add this to their practices sessions.
Great video, I´ve practice slow flight over the runway and it help me so much, I learned on your channel, so thank you
My instrucctor would not let me fly slow. Had some training with a bush pilot he wanted me to feel the stall at altitude of course. The controls will tell you. Feel it cause sneaking into a small lake you may be to busy to check airspeed. Was a great lesson to learn.
22-4-22/Never did slow flight down the runway. Might try it soon. Gets better everyday 😉
With the nosewheel connected to the ridder a recipe for disaster. If you let the nosewheel drop - easy to do - and you have the rudder and nosewheel pointed off the runway (because you’ve said the rudder is so effective so it’s being used) standby for an fast exploration of the airfield boundary or ground loop. Ok for skilled pilot but a rubbish idea for beginners.
My instructor had me land on the mains, upwind wheel first on crosswinds, then keep the nose wheel off the ground without letting the mains leave the pavement for as long as I can or we run out of runway. Really helped dial in stick, rudder and throttle control. Improved all my landings but dramatically helped with my crosswind landings.
Great practice! 22/22
Another great exercise (at least for me) - "wheelie" (not sure if right name, as I'm not native speaker). Just riding on main wheels only down the runway. Not sure if it is good idea with concrete rwy, I was practicing my on soft field.
With 7 hours of flight time, I'm getting ready to solo. We did slow flight down an 8700 ft runway on my last lesson. Runway 35 with winds 090 at 9 knots. Game changer for sure.
Slow flight down the runway as well as a high speed taxi down the runway is my favorite way to learn my sight picture.
Go around procedure, Hand always on power rather than flaps. Please correct me if I’m wrong! Many thanks.
Thank you Jason. Great info as always.
God bless, Chaplain Billy
Ps Where do you instruct out of?
22/22... Well, it's on my list now....
22/22 This will hone your landing skills
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I used power when landing because of being sloppy on the landing and it allowed me to make a near perfect touchdown. Another use of power.
22 for 22, My CFI did this with me.
Your videos are great if I could I would look you up for private license. But I’m a big guy at 390 lbs and I don’t think I would fit in them training planes.
How about side-slips down the runway to practice for crosswind landings as well?
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Thank you so much
22:22, great!
Enjoying your videos! 22 for 22
We do these regularly on an 11K foot runway. It's a ball.
22/22 it been so awesome 😎😎😎😎😎.
Slow flight down the runway also allows for practicing cross control for crosswind landings. Left or right wheel down
You're exactly right!
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22:22 good practice tip.
Great tip.
If there is a crosswind and the ailerons are so sloppy, does your ability to stay over the centerline get affected? I heard you say the rudder still works, but it would seem you'd need both aileron and rudder to maintain centerline. I'll give this a try, but just curious about how a crosswind affects slow flight down the runway.
22 for 22 Slow flight down a long runway helps a lot.
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Lindberg reference as they say .
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Agreed
Hey Jason I’m very close to going on my PPL checkride, I’m part of a 141 school. In your opinion does a 141 school prepare you better for a check ride since I have to take a EOC before it?
22/22....not yet for slow flight
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22 for 22, and I'm just a part 107 guy.
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I call these "float and go's"
Day 22 of 22 of the 31 day safer pilot challenge.
They won't let me :/
I did this once so far. It was embarrassing.
Student, or a rusty pilot that now believes he can't land for shit.
Tell them they are to do a low pass, a foot or two above the runway, to their best judgment. If they touch the runway with wheels, that's OK.
Constraint you give them is that whatever power setting they had on final, they are to keep above the runway. Do not touch the power. It is impossible to keep the plane flying at that power setting. Instructors job is to make sure they lift the nose only so high that nose wheel is above mains, and not so high to have a tail strike. And to really be a couple of feet above runway. In some cases, a bit of coaching may be needed. Lower, still too high...
It is impossible to keep the plane flying like this, and it will gently settle to the ground on them. Then tell them to CUT POWER. You have eaten away plenty of runway, and unless you are at JFK, it is a taxi back, rinse, repeat.
At this point, I usually tell them "what do you mean you can't land? This was the best landing I ever saw!". A confidence builder.
From here, have them cut power when they are a foot above runway, then a bit higher, then above the numbers, then middle of roundout, then before roundout, and make sure they have that hand on throttle, and that they know they can always prop up the plane with a bit of power if things go wonky, or just plain go around. Even if they are wheels on ground, they can go around. As long as there is runway left that is.
Dude either green screened this or he doesn't age.
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Slow flight down the runway.
Loss of alieron authority; slow airspeed?
Rudder control 🤔
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