I’m so sorry for your loss. May God hold you close in His Loving Arms of comfort and compassion..during this first Christmas time and always my distant friend.
Ever since I watched this Paris performance, I have waited for Gardiner and his group to perform it again. He is doing again in April and I will be traveling to Europe to hear this glory life. The most beautiful Dona of all. Bach is the greatest!
Every time I hear this I am reminded how wonderful and magical life can be when someone can create a piece of music that is so perfect. What a giant among composers JS Bach was.
He did it believing he was creating or extending God's work. As an atheist, that is absolutely OK to me knowing that such magnificent work was the result of the complete sincerity of one man.
@@davidkariu That is true for me, as an atheist, as well. I feel the strength that believing in God can give in worst moments of life, lifting one up. For me, God would be the universe, and its greatness, beauty and glory are the same as God's.
It's been thrilling the several times I have sung this Mass. The Dona Nobis Pacem is like the opening of the heaven , and seemed appropriate to be sung when I leave this earth... unless, of course, I become an astronaut.
I am very envious that you have sung this utterly sublime music! I am desperate to sing it, in particular this Dona Nobis Pacem, which I truly adore. Ah, maybe one day! 🎵
Sublimely wonderful to hear on this last day of Advent, Dec. 24, 2022. Gardiner floats the music with his body and soul and communicates that to the singers. All such beautiful expression in the adoration of our Lord.
i remember singing this years ago in the SB Master Chorale, sent shivers up my spine even as i was singing it! Glorious! we surely need "dona nobis pacem " now
@@danvitco771 That was whom Bach was pointing to. The trumpet, before the final part of it, proves that he meant for people to look to Jesus. In the Bible, the trumpet of God, the last trumpet, is the voice of Jesus calling His people to be with Him forever. This is very much about Jesus. The drum at the end is like the footsteps of God, walking with his people, and in it, God even stops for a moment, like He is walking with babies, as if to let his children catch up with Him. This is one of the most incredible pieces of music, ever, and it is dedicated to Jesus the Savior. People, do not miss the salvation of God.
If there is one word that comes to mind when I hear this it is "potential". Such monumental potential and energy, like Bach is showing you how to bridge the gap between man and God. Incredible.
You make a very good point. Listening to Bach's religious music, I often find myself rocking gently from side to side. JS uses this rolling or gentle rocking rhythm frequently, as if lulling a baby asleep. It is very calming but also joyful, a deep sense of peace and feeling of oneness.
@@davetubervid Thankyou so much to your wonderful , spectacular, andmagnificent comment. In Tokyo Christmas is in the air The streets and houses are full of Christmas illuminations and lights and Christmas decorations Please live well I hope you are well Cheer up Hang in there By the way I am a Japanese Brucknerian andDebussyiest and Proustien
I got almost a lump in my throat. This is the most beautiful hartwarming music i ever heard 😢 this gives you the feeling of internal peace and experience you the after life 🪽☁️
Unbeliever that I am, I truly adore this astonishing music, and I am desperate to sing it. How I would love to have been a member of the Monteverdi Choir for that performance, under Sir John Eliot Gardiner's masterful direction. Sublime. ❤
Andrea Montefiori----Agreed! It is slower than I have heard it done, and at first I was dubious about that and almost turned it off. I'm glad I didn't; now I wonder how fast "give us peace" should be expressed. I am writing about a week and a half after the riots in the U.S. Capitol, the end of the Trump presidency, and a new year after a year of pandemic. I think slower.....today. It is good to be able hear the beauty of intertwining lines of voice and brass.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis. Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis. Angus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.
This truly is glorious. Just what I needed during Covid-19. A reminder of youthful joy singing this intricate music from one for whom faith was solid and soaring much like their wonderful cathedrals. Thank you to all the performers and technicians who made this available .
DONA NOBIS PACEM Herr gib uns Frieden Heute ist dies aktueller denn je. Herr Gib uns Frieden, Christus gib uns Frieden, wie du gesagt hast: Frieden lasse ich euch, MEINEN Frieden gebe ich euch. und wie es die engel in der Weihnachtsbotschaft sangen: Frieden auf Erden, und den menschen ein Wohlgefallen
This tempo and version seems proper for a prayer as we address Him - other versions Klemperer and even Shaw, while masterful and precise, seem more demanding, not the attitude I would expect as we ask for this blessing for ourselves and others. I believe this is from the performance at the new Cite de Musica, Paris?
It would be a great joy for me if as many people as possible wouldn've heard what I did of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Listz, Bortkiewicz, Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, Rachmaninov, and many more...
Excellent, excellent interpretation. I do wish the clarino would have brought his line out more, could hardly hear it and that's a major contrasting element to the work....the end was strong though.
Yes, I knew the notes at those points, and was wishing I could hear them more clearly. Maybe would have been if they had been using modern instruments. But yes, they were strong at the end.
There is "rising action" in this movement. The trumpets and timpani don't enter until the last pages. How common is this in Baroque Music? It would seem to be a 19th Century device.
I wan to prostrate myself before eternity when I hear this, but eternity is meaningless....still, Bach creates a dramatic something for humanity, and I am revived.
Sublime music: lovely ladies: beautiful voices: totally, totally WRONG. On your knees, you fools, and sing SOFTLY. No devotion, no humility, no beseeching here I'm afraid. To end so flamboyantly on the word "PEACE" would be hilarious, were it not so sad. The final entry of the trumpets above the sopranos , for me potentially the most moving moment in the realms of music, totally wrecked. When you can't hear the trumpets (!!!!), you know that something has gone seriously wrong. When you're begging God for a favour, it's rude, indeed pig-ignorant, to shout. Those with the subject should be slightly to the fore: everybody else should LISTEN, and support them softly. Elementary choral practice! But what do I know: I'm only a retired Professor, who, as a student, earned a fortune playing Bach's 3 solo violin fugues in West End arcades.
This is a tribute to my son, who died a few days ago.
I'm so sorry for your loss 💔
How devastating. You have this music to turn to in your grief. From a grieving mum.
I’m so sorry for your loss. May God hold you close in His Loving Arms of comfort and compassion..during this first Christmas time and always my distant friend.
I share your grief. May God give him and you peace! May your son enjoy eternal bliss!
❤
When we sang this at Peabody Conservatory back in the 1960's I choked every time singing this last segment.
I sang it in college too. Absolutely sublime music
Ever since I watched this Paris performance, I have waited for Gardiner and his group to perform it again. He is doing again in April and I will be traveling to Europe to hear this glory life. The most beautiful Dona of all. Bach is the greatest!
Dr Gardner is coming to Montreal in November, and the Si minor mass is on the menu!
I can listen to the Dona Nobis Pacem a thousand times and it touches my soul very deeply! Masterpiece and masterful performance ❤
A mi me pasa lo mismo me penetra el alma
Every time I hear this I am reminded how wonderful and magical life can be when someone can create a piece of music that is so perfect. What a giant among composers JS Bach was.
He certainly was.
He did it believing he was creating or extending God's work. As an atheist, that is absolutely OK to me knowing that such magnificent work was the result of the complete sincerity of one man.
@@davidkariu That is true for me, as an atheist, as well. I feel the strength that believing in God can give in worst moments of life, lifting one up. For me, God would be the universe, and its greatness, beauty and glory are the same as God's.
Lovely comment. This is so different from the Canon. This gives an ascending feeling of the Agnus Dei
Et quelle joie aussi de l'interpréter.
It's been thrilling the several times I have sung this Mass. The Dona Nobis Pacem is like the opening of the heaven , and seemed appropriate to be sung when I leave this earth... unless, of course, I become an astronaut.
I am very envious that you have sung this utterly sublime music! I am desperate to sing it, in particular this Dona Nobis Pacem, which I truly adore. Ah, maybe one day! 🎵
Well stated.
7 years ago...and now, are we lost as a " World"? Not as long as music lifts us up
Sublimely wonderful to hear on this last day of Advent, Dec. 24, 2022. Gardiner floats the music with his body and soul and communicates that to the singers. All such beautiful expression in the adoration of our Lord.
i remember singing this years ago in the SB Master Chorale, sent shivers up my spine even as i was singing it! Glorious!
we surely need "dona nobis pacem " now
Hearing this the last 4 minutes before dying, I truly would rest in absolute peace.
Rest in peace, this guy commented 4 minutes before he died.
Couldn't agree more!. This is the music to enter the Pearly Gates!
You will if you look to the One this points to. Jesus Christ.
@@danvitco771 That was whom Bach was pointing to. The trumpet, before the final part of it, proves that he meant for people to look to Jesus. In the Bible, the trumpet of God, the last trumpet, is the voice of Jesus calling His people to be with Him forever. This is very much about Jesus. The drum at the end is like the footsteps of God, walking with his people, and in it, God even stops for a moment, like He is walking with babies, as if to let his children catch up with Him. This is one of the most incredible pieces of music, ever, and it is dedicated to Jesus the Savior. People, do not miss the salvation of God.
@@lindajohnson4204 Well stated.
If there is one word that comes to mind when I hear this it is "potential". Such monumental potential and energy, like Bach is showing you how to bridge the gap between man and God. Incredible.
Musically, it points to Jesus Christ Himself…Who has bridged the gap between man & God.
It sure is true that Bach is great.
Singing this was an experience that always warms my soul.
This is a humanity's lullaby and the cradle of soul
You make a very good point. Listening to Bach's religious music, I often find myself rocking gently from side to side. JS uses this rolling or gentle rocking rhythm frequently, as if lulling a baby asleep. It is very calming but also joyful, a deep sense of peace and feeling of oneness.
@@davetubervid
Thankyou so much to your wonderful , spectacular, andmagnificent comment.
In Tokyo
Christmas is in the air
The streets and houses are full of Christmas illuminations and lights and Christmas decorations
Please live well
I hope you are well
Cheer up
Hang in there
By the way
I am a Japanese Brucknerian andDebussyiest and Proustien
@@shin-i-chikozima xxx
I got almost a lump in my throat. This is the most beautiful hartwarming music i ever heard 😢 this gives you the feeling of internal peace and experience you the after life 🪽☁️
Unbeliever that I am, I truly adore this astonishing music, and I am desperate to sing it.
How I would love to have been a member of the Monteverdi Choir for that performance, under Sir John Eliot Gardiner's masterful direction. Sublime. ❤
I love this version, slower than usual, which exalts the incredible beauty and harmony of Bach's work. Thanks for posting
It is not slow, it is the right tempo..
...the most divine time!
@@adfontesaquarum Thankyou! You may be interested to know that I lived asa a young teacher in a bungalow in East Horsley opposite Gardiner's parents.
Andrea Montefiori----Agreed! It is slower than I have heard it done, and at first I was dubious about that and almost turned it off. I'm glad I didn't; now I wonder how fast "give us peace" should be expressed. I am writing about a week and a half after the riots in the U.S. Capitol, the end of the Trump presidency, and a new year after a year of pandemic. I think slower.....today. It is good to be able hear the beauty of intertwining lines of voice and brass.
Bach es el artista mas grande de todos los tiempos
Für mich auch
Every time I watch and listen to this I feel uplifted and joyous even though my tears are falling like Niagara Falls.
Exactly!
Tears of joy they are the best!
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.
Angus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.
The baritone are just magnificent!
This truly is glorious. Just what I needed during Covid-19. A reminder of youthful joy singing this intricate music from one for whom faith was solid and soaring much like their wonderful cathedrals. Thank you to all the performers and technicians who made this available .
The greatest arrangement of sounds ever created! Pure bliss to the ears!
DONA NOBIS PACEM
Herr gib uns Frieden
Heute ist dies aktueller denn je.
Herr Gib uns Frieden, Christus gib uns Frieden, wie du gesagt hast: Frieden lasse ich euch, MEINEN Frieden gebe ich euch.
und wie es die engel in der Weihnachtsbotschaft sangen: Frieden auf Erden, und den menschen ein Wohlgefallen
Un baume pour l'âme. Merci mille fois
So powerful
Superb, certainly one of te best versions of dnp on Earth
Sublime, literally.
The best of Bach from a Wonderfull Choir
Sublime Serene Sacred
Es de una grandeza inconmensurable.
it is so beautiful, slower but incredibly expressive and the I loved way the ending was conducted!
perfection
The music is glorious. Did anyone send Sir John boxing gloves for his birthday?
Literally the best version I've run across
BACH, YOU GOT ME CRYING AGAIN!
bravo, bravissimo! Danke!
Great version. Love it.
*_I love your work_*
This is to great to describe, its beyond words, it is an expression of Truth 'sui generis'
Intenso, potente, superbo
Profoundly beautiful.
Superbo! Un vera supplica a Dio. (Superb! A real supplication to God)
directly from the heaven. excellent, reference class
Qué grande que eres "Jardinero"!!!!!!!
Danke ! ❤
All composers and musicians look up to Bach. Way up !
Heaven on earth.
I run out of words
Bach is God and God is Bach.
This tempo and version seems proper for a prayer as we address Him - other versions Klemperer and even Shaw, while masterful and precise, seem more demanding, not the attitude I would expect as we ask for this blessing for ourselves and others. I believe this is from the performance at the new Cite de Musica, Paris?
Yes, not demanding, but more humble and prayerful.......
Check out Karl Richter and the Munchener Bach Chor from the 60s. Even slower than this
Dona nobis pacem, dona nobis pacem.
Muy emocionante y bella version, gracias!
amazingly great, the slowest version ever seen!
This is so much better a way to end the mass than the quicker tempi often heard. Listen to Karajan's, just as slow if not slower!
John Niro Please take a look at Richter’s version.
In Gardiners recording of this mass from 1985 the tempo is faster too.
@@Jnirobrass You are right that the tempo really makes sense as the final statement of this oceanic work. The summation of a lifetime.
True to his name, Gardiner cultivates a florid aural landscape here in his 'Bach' yard.
😊
Clever you!
@@eloisehooper1801 Hints From H. Eloise?
It would be a great joy for me if as many people as possible wouldn've heard what I did of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Listz, Bortkiewicz, Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, Rachmaninov, and many more...
❤❤❤
Music from the throne of heaven itself. From the throne of Jesus Christ
Excellent, excellent interpretation. I do wish the clarino would have brought his line out more, could hardly hear it and that's a major contrasting element to the work....the end was strong though.
Yes, I knew the notes at those points, and was wishing I could hear them more clearly. Maybe would have been if they had been using modern instruments. But yes, they were strong at the end.
Kompliment! Wenn Sie dies lesen, haben Sie einen exzellenten Musikgeschmack.
There is "rising action" in this movement. The trumpets and timpani don't enter until the last pages. How common is this in Baroque Music? It would seem to be a 19th Century device.
What happened to the full length video of this performance? The Gloria was my favorite!
Alan Young o
th-cam.com/video/m7obnfrlP0s/w-d-xo.html recording only
The entire mass would be considerably longer! But I seem to remember hearing Bach's rendition of this donna nobis pacem in one of his contatas.
Please also listen to the version by Karl Richter. It's here on TH-cam.
I wan to prostrate myself before eternity when I hear this, but eternity is meaningless....still, Bach creates a dramatic something for humanity, and I am revived.
That desire to prostrate yourself is a religious response.
I feel the temp on the slow side.
CSODÁS !!!!!
Have someone the complete video of the mass? Thanks!
th-cam.com/video/CT6vRpmyiW0/w-d-xo.html
J'´aimerais voir la messe entiere comme avant L' ecouter ce n ´est pas pareil
Les hommes accélèrent à 0:30 ! Le chef on le voit essayant de les contenir mais il n’y arrive pas. Ils sont trop yeux rivés sur leur partition.
This is my design
A sinner in the hands of an angry god is saved. Don't know if anyone else ever expressed this before besides Bach
God is not angry, He is full of pity, lovingkindness, mercy, grace and a desire to heal his children.
His and Suzuki's recordings approach perfection. The only thing that could possibly improve this is a boys' choir.
Is this version in B minor?
This is the last movement of the mass which is in the key of D major, or the parallel key of the main key B minor.
Thus called Bach's "Mass in B minor"
Holy fk...i just had a super-o listening to this!
ummo
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Sublime music: lovely ladies: beautiful voices: totally, totally WRONG. On your knees, you fools, and sing SOFTLY. No devotion, no humility, no beseeching here I'm afraid. To end so flamboyantly on the word "PEACE" would be hilarious, were it not so sad. The final entry of the trumpets above the sopranos , for me potentially the most moving moment in the realms of music, totally wrecked. When you can't hear the trumpets (!!!!), you know that something has gone seriously wrong. When you're begging God for a favour, it's rude, indeed pig-ignorant, to shout. Those with the subject should be slightly to the fore: everybody else should LISTEN, and support them softly. Elementary choral practice! But what do I know: I'm only a retired Professor, who, as a student, earned a fortune playing Bach's 3 solo violin fugues in West End arcades.
So I'm the only idiot who's here cuz of hannibal 😅😅
BACH, YOU GOT ME CRYING AGAIN!