One can't deny that Holdens are mostly "Bogan" cars, but considering that Commodore's have been the main cop car of choice for decades, you gotta love them.
Actually, the small wheels is something i've come to appreciate. Its so much more comfortable. I would never replace the 17" on my civic for 18 or larger. Especially since its not a japanese made accord. I'm going to have to de-rattle some of the interior panels soon. Its quite obnoxious. Cant imagine how bad it is with bigger wheels lol.
Haha yes! I purchased one some years back for $300. 2nd gear was missing in action and some fool had let rip with a shotgun into the back seat but with a bit of fiddling I got it to go ok. Ended up selling it for parts, so no regrets, made a few dollars on it. Cheers Greg.
I am not a car person BUT I came across this and watched it. Interesting and informative clip indeed. Im looking for a car as such and your channel gave me more insight into my search
@@bksniperguy The 3.0 Used the 6L45, slighly weaker than the others. Pretty sure it's mainly just ZF parts manufactured and built by a bunch of half asleep americans hahah
@@KiwiCarLife yep, long term contract with bulk orders. Source: [REDACTED] Holden knew GM were going to shut them down sooner or later, so the strategy was to sell as much product as possible even if there was little to no profit margin.
Citrus based cleaner works on film adhesive. I’ve just done this. White spirits is effective too. Great job on the cleanup and refinishing. Looks like a decent car. There’s a reason these were used by police in Aus and NZ for years. 👍🏻
Great video. I used to drive police cars daily, mostly XF Falcons and VK Commodores. Fleet cars are pretty much unloved by crews. I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any Australian police using the Evoke VFs. Most were either the 3.6 or, especially for Highway Patrol the 6.0L V8. What was once the backbone of police, salespeople and taxis are now pretty much just bogan or enthusiast vehicles. They're quickly disappearing from Australian roads, as are Falcons.
After 4 commodores over the years then a Camry i got a hybrid and 60 mpg plus seems like a good change to me. The Holdens were ok on a long trip but around town they're very thirsty so I don't miss them.
$3200 used to be crazy money for an ex-cop car in that condition. A few years ago that would wholesale for sub $1k. They aren't making any more with the engine pointing the right way though.
@@KiwiCarLife yeah, hence the "not making any more" qualification, the consequence of which is values of Australian-made cars are only going up from here on out.
@@2pintsofcremedementh I don’t think it’s that, I just think cars in general aren’t as cheap as they used to be. I don’t believe that a VF would have ever sold for sub 1k at auction. Maybe an old VE or VZ or something
Absolutely, one thing these and Falcons are known for is their longevity… of course with looking after but compared with the German equivalents super reliable.
I didn't have to rebuild the torque converter on any of my BMW's... And certainly not at 150,000km! The VE's can have timing chain issues too. VF's are pretty solid though. Overall great cars
@KiwiCarLife true mate, beemers are not as bad as a lot of people imagine! I think I was quite lucky with the commodore it was still on original timing chains at 325000kms lol
Had a mate turn up in a commy back in the early 2000s .. you could see were the police decals were as the under decal paint was newer 😂😂😂😂😂.. he got it at turners auction 😂……..instantly told to piss off out the drive way 😂
In the early 2010s I worked for the company that leased the police cars and did a project reviewing the repair bills. The cops (not all but deffo the majority) take pride in being hard on the cars + the job is hard on cars anyway. Overloaded, iding then flooring it then turned off hot etc.
@@petercreagh8797 Yeah, how many times they put a siren on and go for it, no doubt just for some fake response. Then vacuous cops who should be working for Inland Revenue pull you over and give you a $400 ticket for your 10 year driver licence being overdue, or for going 120km on the new Warkworth motorway, which is safe normal speed for those conditions. Stopping or warning cars for driving 100kph on a pot holed SH 1 in rain..when there's genuine safety risk....nah, never. They don't get rain pay .
For an alternative to thinners im wondering if you tried the product called Desolvit. Its citrus based and I've used it where I've needed to remove remaining sticky gunk stickers leave behind and doesn't seem to affect plastic or paint surfaces.
@@al6346 yeah I initially tried some citrus cleaner and it was a bit useless. Worked but was super slow. Needed something stronger. I’m sure it would work fine on stickers on windows and small stuff but this was like the whole car haha
very interesting, but as I imagined, cars like this would've been thrashed on the beat, I'd imagine them wheels would've met curbs at speed, hence why the tyre profile is fat like you pointed out, but after a bit of TLC, it came out great!
Yeah thing is they get driven hard but they also get really well serviced so so long as you fix the issues when buying it decommissioned, they’re probably no less reliable than a normal one
If you ever buy another car that has glue residue, degreaser/prepsol breaks the glue down. just make sure to wipe the vehicle with diluted isopropyl to make sure the degreaser doesn’t eat away at the paint. The vinyl glue you were dealing with is from reflective and it’s an extremely thick material so the adhesive is always a bit harder to remove
Turps is the best of all I’ve found, it dosen’t evaporate as quick as any other solvent yet soaks into the adhesive better than citrus to soften it up, leave for a few minutes to soak in and scrape using a sharp plastic scraper blade, diluted isopropyl alcohol to clean, paint degreaser is probably a close second but it’s all about the soak time
@@mikegalaxie2352 i’m sure turps is pretty good, however we just use degreaser as it’s less harsh and won’t strip the paint as fast as turps would, i’m sure a customer wouldn’t be too happy if we removed their paint aswell 🤣
@@WayneKerr69420 The last Holden was made in 20/10/17 or the 20th of October 2017....It was they're 7.7 millionth car;the name of this last Holden was the/a:2017 commodore ss-v redline sedan. :>) I also have studied heaps about Holdens and GM because I thought..'Since I've loved Holdens since I was little I MUST STUDY about GM and Holdens...I also l,I've in NZ soo...The NZ police have some skodas but still have some HOLDENS I said 'Phew' the NZ police still have some Holdens!!! :>) THANKS 4 READING THIS BRO! :>)😌💌🤟🏻🤟🏻
Yeah haha coz they just get all the leftover stuff that doesn't sell at dealers. A lot of the last of the VF's were SV6's because Holden obviously had a lot going spare as they introduced the ZB's, so the police got fully loaded ones with the spoilers, upgraded wheels etc. to use up stock. Quite cool
I went in a old mitsubishi v3000 ex police car that thing could really go esp when you consider was a 1988 model this would of been early 2000s and imagine my surprise with 2 of us in the car after a few attempts we got 0 to 100 in 7.7 seconds and 180 in 4th gear pulled really well
@KiwiCarLife hi mate yeah I agree , and the gearing helped a lot as well like they had 14 inch tyres and good gearing yeah ,and after that at the time lol.he had pit stop put extractors on and a 2.5 inch exhaust right through for most part lol from memory yeah and after that was bit quicker still but especially from 100 to 200 lol and got there powerfully especially for non turbo, a engine builder told my mate at the time lol those v3000 motors he had they cd be highly modified if you had the $$$ they were a really good motor he told him ,even though had no vtec or anything he was told they cd rebuild those v3000 motors and make another 40 hp which us huge for na they were about 150hp stock but app being a ex police one might of been about 165 hp my mate was told ,
@@KiwiCarLife I know it's illegal to have the lights but I wonder if it's illegal to have a siren. Heaps of people have the dukes of hazzard horn or those loudspeaker music cars, so even if it is what's the technical definition of a "siren" anyway?
Think the real sad thing is the older cop cars used to have police tunes on the ECU and some even performance mods beyond suspension or prior they had engine mods to make them go better. Its one of those things there are lots of good bargains out there if you have access to the right equipment or people to fix them but most don't. Keep having fun your only young once
Yeah they still do some things to them, but in all fairness by the 2010's they don't really need performance mods. Maybe back in the 90's when holden's 3.8 barely made like 140kW hahah
That is a good effort, especially when so much is only one lane either way. I'm used to driving Sydney to Brisbane or Melbourne which is basically 4 lane freeway all the way. Maybe that's what you need-freeway from Auckland to Wellington.
@@KiwiCarLife Of course kidding but after a hard life with the armed police force, I’d like to see what state the BMW would be like 😅 ready for the parts bin at that point. Though a more taken care of VF would be a solid a find in particular a V8 model.
@@KiwiCarLife 4 Beemers, various cooling system break downs and vanos going in a couple. The most reliable ended up being the 318ti with the 1.9L, gutless but fairly low maintenance. Comparing with the Toyotas, Holdens (commodores) and Hondas didn’t have any of those issues. Although in the CL9 the A/C compressor did go so can’t exactly leave the Honda as a perfect member either 😅 Toyota Landcruiser has been by far the most dependable ie owned and still own. Though it does like a drink thing just keeps going. The Holdens I’ve had mainly were the older 3.8 V6s and those things just keep going such low stress and low maintenance. The 3.6L V6s need a bit more work but if you look after them they’ll keep going. 😉
@@KiwiCarLife I’d still pick a Beemer over any VAG products. As for the police force, they stopped using BMWs in the UK due to numerous faults. Those were Diesels but still not good for the reputation.
You guys are crazy. I live just around the corner from that turners yard! I once went to the dark side and bought a ex police VE commodore ended up debadging it / cleaning it up and drove it around for a bit when fuel was $2.0 /l really nice comfy car for bigger guys / long legs. I kinda get it interior was a bit below what I expect from our nippon counterparts. One thing that bugged me was all the left over wiring all over the place and the hole / bung in the roof that was left over and the missing middle trim (I see the VF is the same). One thing that bugged me is NZ police moved onto Opel ZB that it was quite clear that was a waste of time those models did not last long at all, must have cost ages tooling those cars for the 2-3 years they used them. in AU / Queensland I see they use BMW 5 sedans, I thought they might be better suited as you get them in sedan wagons and all the RD must have been done by AU, however the servicing network here might be to limited. Keep up the great videos!
Owned an ex police au falcon (parents bought of trade me) with my influence and used it for a few years before I bought it off them, miss it and use to live by that turners too lol
I once said to a cop who pulled me over in her Ford Falcon, "Can't they aFFord to give you a Holden? She pulled me over because I had a bolted on ponga log for a bumper and flashing tape to cover roof rust holes from a removed roof rack, but it had a warrant so she was left scratching her head.
crazy to see someone else where I live, making similar content to me lol right behind your house in that field is also where I did a review of a WRX long ago[2014] and a short film called Drug Deal Gone Wrong both clips are on my channel, I'm just up the road and also use to live one one road beside you lol
They don’t even really remove stuff properly, still had all the wiring and cube lights in the grille. They usually just cut out the modules and call it a day. Very rough decommissioning
Just like our railroad,buy it for heaps,sell for f--k all lol I remember when they brought all these cars ,we used to take them off the ships and put them in storage to get there stickers done , good times, anyways all the best boys ❤❤
Nah Holden were selling these to the nz police for just 23k new apparently! Most sell for around 5-6k so given the use they get that’s about the cheapest running you’ll ever have. Latest Skoda now cost like 100k fully kitted out
Imagine the history ! The chases the takedowns the armed defenders in the back, the dents after pushing the Badie’s off the road, not to mention the throw up in the back 😱 😂 🗽❤️😎
@@KiwiCarLife I have a Holden Cruze SRi-V six spd manual, am hacked off with the reduction in speed limit between Masterton and Featherston. Only yesterday I followed someone doing 70 between Tauwharenikau and Featherston, talk about incompetence and it is people who are so distracted who plow into wire cheese graters
Try and find a old MOT Mitzi man they had some speed Ministry of Transport for the young ones who were not around in the day.... im 44 and own a R34 coupe for 18 years
Baaaaaaahahaha yeah bro I went in one 1988 mitsi v3000 ex police was chipped etc this was early 2000s ish ,there were 2 of us in the car we got a 7.7 sec 0 to 100 out of it and that was getting into 3d gear was bloody fast this car at the time , 180 in 4th gear lol, and it could keep up with a v8 holden vn Calais from 80 to 160 kph this car cd really go
Finally as Australian I found a channel I can kinda relate too... were neighbours so were buddies, you stole our Holdens but that's OK our dollar isn't really different....this flip is what I like to see because it's my level from budget to skill 😉
@@KiwiCarLife i get that, i was just curious with about how it is here in nz and i like this guy if ur doin flips: th-cam.com/video/mNlurNIddqA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Eshy1jJV0ockwFGM
@@KiwiCarLife Good result. The VFs are still quite modern, and though it's not up to date the tech is still flashy and at least bluetooth works, so good enough for the South Auckland set to black out and slam on ridiculous rims. But when you can get a VE SV6 in a nice colour and nice nick for that kind of money, they're a better proposition for the enthusiast, especially considering you only have to look at values of older Aussie cars to see where a lovingly cared for example of the more desirable VEs & VFs, as well as all the Barra era Fords, will be in the long term. But well done on the quick flip on the VF. It's a ballsy move, coming from an ex-Holden salesman who's seen what kind of bills they can unleash in the workshop!
i used to work at turners and we did a better job at the sticker removal at my branch 🤣 needs lots of heat to pull the glue off with the sticker. and yeah its much more like a colored reflective tape. to remove any glue left behind on the panels we'd reheat the remaining glue, then use a part of the sticker we had removed that had glue on it to dab at the panel and pull it off. this one being a DVA they wouldnt have had to do as nice of a job at it as ones going to standard thursday auctions as DVAs typically get sold for parts
@@KiwiCarLife yes, several factors. 2.5 - 2.7 tons bring one issue. Another was the low rev torque the 2.7L diesel put out. Apparently some harmonics would occur when the harmonic balancer started to fail - I’d have to recheck that to be sure. Oh and lastly, the idiots in Land Rover marketing specified that the gearbox was sealed for life.
I had an SV6 for a while then went to an E60 530i motorsport, handling wise the Commodore was every bit as good as the BMW, with ever so slightly slightly better steering feel. The BMW had more grip with wider tyres at the back, but the ride on the BMW could be a bit harsh. BTW I thought the commodore had a GM6L50 transmission?
With 45 yrs in the trade launching these suckers i can say with a fair bit of certainty that while the odd bogan ended up with ford or a holden they were generally on their last legs ....by far the market was a company car or farmers wifes car that was used to tow the boat or caravan with the sportier versions sold to successfull directors who could with a few pennies turn them into beasts that would often blow away the more fancied and more often than not euro that cost double or treble the amount. While you gen z ers are doing a reasionable job at this entertainment lark on the little screen a little humility and reverence shown to a brand that for the most was way better designed for the kiwi and aussie market than anything else and had a much more loyal following
@@KiwiCarLife not a bad flip, buy for 3k, spend a week on it and sell for 7k, but the motors obviously supercharged and pistons and displacement forged, i myself would change the rims and sell it for at least 15k, i mean it is cop fast, not factory
One can't deny that Holdens are mostly "Bogan" cars, but considering that Commodore's have been the main cop car of choice for decades, you gotta love them.
WTF are you talking about you 🤡 what cars did NZ produce ! Answer FUCK ALL
Yeah honestly they're good cars!
The Holden’s were awesome for our crumby roads and the daily abuse they endured. I’ve had a bunch of these cars and would rate them for sure!
Pretty sure half of NZ would have that comment the exact opposite way around 😂
@@nonrasputin9260 yes I’ve seen your videos, good content!
0:40 man I love that shot. Love driving in foggy ambient early mornings like those :)
It's nice aye
Actually, the small wheels is something i've come to appreciate. Its so much more comfortable. I would never replace the 17" on my civic for 18 or larger.
Especially since its not a japanese made accord. I'm going to have to de-rattle some of the interior panels soon. Its quite obnoxious. Cant imagine how bad it is with bigger wheels lol.
It's a balance between looks and comfort. 18's and 19's can still ride well if paired with the right suspension
Haha yes! I purchased one some years back for $300. 2nd gear was missing in action and some fool had let rip with a shotgun into the back seat but with a bit of fiddling I got it to go ok. Ended up selling it for parts, so no regrets, made a few dollars on it. Cheers Greg.
Wow is that all goodness me haha
I had a VF SV6 hire car in NZ nearly 10 years ago. Great cars. 220kph was seen a few times easy peasy lemon squeezy. Chur chur!
Goodness me the SPEED
Great content, something different, always liked our home-grown cars. Still having therapy that they aren't no more.
Thanks man1
I am not a car person BUT I came across this and watched it. Interesting and informative clip indeed. Im looking for a car as such and your channel gave me more insight into my search
Glad you enjoyed it!
Holdens didn't use ZF transmissions. They had a GM equivalent 6 speed, which probably explains the issue 😅
was gonna say this. I'm 99% sure they use the 6L50
I'll second that
Correct, the 6L50 is based on the ZF6. Internally they're pretty much identical
@@bksniperguy The 3.0 Used the 6L45, slighly weaker than the others. Pretty sure it's mainly just ZF parts manufactured and built by a bunch of half asleep americans hahah
@@jackturner990 The 6L45/50 was built in France.
Between you and Non Rasputin, I really enjoy these sort of ex Police car restorations
Haha good to hear!
Done the Hamilton to Wellington return trip many many times
Leave Hams at 2am, and be back by 2pm.
I love that drive 🎉
It's a good one!
Mate you must be one of those people who never goes over 80kph 🤣
@@Sam-go3mb 1030km from Hamilton to Wellington and back, 12h means average speed of 86kmh. He’s booking it!
@@KiwiCarLife yeah my bad I didn't read the 'back' part, I'm sure he kicked up some dust on Desert Road 😅
@@Sam-go3mb u got it!
has a nice mechanical feel to the sv6 suspension sticks to the road
Yeah I was impressed it goes well
Glad I stumbled across this, well done boys
Haha glad to hear!
Fun fact: Holden were selling these Commodores to NZ Police for just $23,000 (NZD)!
Wow is that all that's crazy
@@KiwiCarLife yep, long term contract with bulk orders.
Source: [REDACTED]
Holden knew GM were going to shut them down sooner or later, so the strategy was to sell as much product as possible even if there was little to no profit margin.
You should see what State Owned Enterprise get their 70 Series cruisers and Hiluxes for 😮 Toyota are really ripping people off 😅
My guess is they sell at cost or a loss, but make it back plus more for all the services and repairs. That’s where the big bucks are with dealerships.
They likely make their money via the stealerships anyway
Citrus based cleaner works on film adhesive. I’ve just done this. White spirits is effective too. Great job on the cleanup and refinishing. Looks like a decent car. There’s a reason these were used by police in Aus and NZ for years. 👍🏻
Yeah that first stuff I tried was citrus cleaner and it worked but was way too slow
Petrol works great
@@notsorare it does for sure. I got over the citrus PDQ and went to white spirits: basic gasoline. 👍🏻🙂
@@KiwiCarLife Depends on the percentage of limonene.
Great video. I used to drive police cars daily, mostly XF Falcons and VK Commodores. Fleet cars are pretty much unloved by crews. I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any Australian police using the Evoke VFs. Most were either the 3.6 or, especially for Highway Patrol the 6.0L V8. What was once the backbone of police, salespeople and taxis are now pretty much just bogan or enthusiast vehicles. They're quickly disappearing from Australian roads, as are Falcons.
Yeah sad times, they were great in their day but yeah now just being used as skid hacks
After 4 commodores over the years then a Camry i got a hybrid and 60 mpg plus seems like a good change to me. The Holdens were ok on a long trip but around town they're very thirsty so I don't miss them.
@@cantablocal6768 fair enough
Back in the late 90s Holden employeed a head engineer from BMW who designed the BMW e39 suspension. This is why Holdens started to handle properly.
Yeah certainly this VF is a nice handling car for 1700kg
$3200 used to be crazy money for an ex-cop car in that condition. A few years ago that would wholesale for sub $1k. They aren't making any more with the engine pointing the right way though.
Really? Most are selling for at least 3k
@@KiwiCarLife yeah, hence the "not making any more" qualification, the consequence of which is values of Australian-made cars are only going up from here on out.
@@2pintsofcremedementh I don’t think it’s that, I just think cars in general aren’t as cheap as they used to be. I don’t believe that a VF would have ever sold for sub 1k at auction. Maybe an old VE or VZ or something
@@KiwiCarLife $3k used to get a really tidy ex-cop car at auction, but yeah the market has changed since those days for sure.
@@2pintsofcremedementhYou're not wrong. My Aussie V8 has increased in value by over $8k in 12 months..
Great transformation!, I did 325000kms in a VE Omega, mostly reliable, so I am sure the VF has plenty left in it for a new owner.
Absolutely, one thing these and Falcons are known for is their longevity… of course with looking after but compared with the German equivalents super reliable.
I didn't have to rebuild the torque converter on any of my BMW's... And certainly not at 150,000km! The VE's can have timing chain issues too. VF's are pretty solid though. Overall great cars
@KiwiCarLife true mate, beemers are not as bad as a lot of people imagine! I think I was quite lucky with the commodore it was still on original timing chains at 325000kms lol
Had a mate turn up in a commy back in the early 2000s .. you could see were the police decals were as the under decal paint was newer 😂😂😂😂😂.. he got it at turners auction 😂……..instantly told to piss off out the drive way 😂
@@Mister_8tee7 classic haha
In the early 2010s I worked for the company that leased the police cars and did a project reviewing the repair bills.
The cops (not all but deffo the majority) take pride in being hard on the cars + the job is hard on cars anyway.
Overloaded, iding then flooring it then turned off hot etc.
@@getahanddown haha classic. Hey this one is still going just fine now!
I am sure many would have seen being able to drive a Commodore fast as a perk of the job.
@@petercreagh8797 Yeah, how many times they put a siren on and go for it, no doubt just for some fake response. Then vacuous cops who should be working for Inland Revenue pull you over and give you a $400 ticket for your 10 year driver licence being overdue, or for going 120km on the new Warkworth motorway, which is safe normal speed for those conditions. Stopping or warning cars for driving 100kph on a pot holed SH 1 in rain..when there's genuine safety risk....nah, never. They don't get rain pay .
i get old school top gear vibes good on you guys
Everyone does haha we’re not necessarily trying to, I guess we watched a lot of top gear when we were younger so the influence naturally comes across.
Ahh, there was something familiar I couldn't quite put my finger on what/why. This was it
@@KiwiCarLife definitely a compliment!
Keep up the great content. I would like to see some ZB Commodore videos
@@Fieldy971 hmm yes that could be a good video!
WHY have I not known of this channel??? SUUUBBBEDD! :D
Thanks!
Well done, a nice quick turnaround
Took a few weeks but yep all done!
For an alternative to thinners im wondering if you tried the product called Desolvit. Its citrus based and I've used it where I've needed to remove remaining sticky gunk stickers leave behind and doesn't seem to affect plastic or paint surfaces.
that shit is great. has worked better than many specific marketed cleaning products in my experience. i'm not surprised it works on that glue.
@@al6346 yeah I initially tried some citrus cleaner and it was a bit useless. Worked but was super slow. Needed something stronger. I’m sure it would work fine on stickers on windows and small stuff but this was like the whole car haha
Nice channel lads - just found you and will be watching. Thanks 👍
@@alman-world thanks man!
very interesting, but as I imagined, cars like this would've been thrashed on the beat, I'd imagine them wheels would've met curbs at speed, hence why the tyre profile is fat like you pointed out, but after a bit of TLC, it came out great!
Yeah thing is they get driven hard but they also get really well serviced so so long as you fix the issues when buying it decommissioned, they’re probably no less reliable than a normal one
Nice job guys, new sub!
As a Ford owner I resemble your remarks ; )
Haha good cars that sadly can sometimes be ruined by the owners
If you ever buy another car that has glue residue, degreaser/prepsol breaks the glue down. just make sure to wipe the vehicle with diluted isopropyl to make sure the degreaser doesn’t eat away at the paint. The vinyl glue you were dealing with is from reflective and it’s an extremely thick material so the adhesive is always a bit harder to remove
@@kylamurphy6201 yeah I used prepsol initially and paint thinners was better
Eucalyptus oil works well.
Turps is the best of all I’ve found, it dosen’t evaporate as quick as any other solvent yet soaks into the adhesive better than citrus to soften it up, leave for a few minutes to soak in and scrape using a sharp plastic scraper blade, diluted isopropyl alcohol to clean, paint degreaser is probably a close second but it’s all about the soak time
@@mikegalaxie2352 i’m sure turps is pretty good, however we just use degreaser as it’s less harsh and won’t strip the paint as fast as turps would, i’m sure a customer wouldn’t be too happy if we removed their paint aswell 🤣
@@kylamurphy6201 I’ve been a signwriter for 30 years and never had that issue…
I love Holdens and i'm 13 yrs old I've loved them ever since I was little :>)
@@BenDix-x7k good cars
both of my parents have commodores, one has a 2016 evoke, and the other has a 2014 SS
@@WayneKerr69420 The last Holden was made in 20/10/17 or the 20th of October 2017....It was they're 7.7 millionth car;the name of this last Holden was the/a:2017 commodore ss-v redline sedan. :>) I also have studied heaps about Holdens and GM because I thought..'Since I've loved Holdens since I was little I MUST STUDY about GM and Holdens...I also l,I've in NZ soo...The NZ police have some skodas but still have some HOLDENS I said 'Phew' the NZ police still have some Holdens!!! :>) THANKS 4 READING THIS BRO! :>)😌💌🤟🏻🤟🏻
When you find a glock in the glove box, you know you've done well
@@supaflask1275 HAHA that would be a cool find! But I’d be very surprised
It’s in a lock box under the seat
A number of these ex-police units I’ve encountered have had aftermarket spoilers, alloys and ‘GTR’ decals added
Yeah haha coz they just get all the leftover stuff that doesn't sell at dealers. A lot of the last of the VF's were SV6's because Holden obviously had a lot going spare as they introduced the ZB's, so the police got fully loaded ones with the spoilers, upgraded wheels etc. to use up stock. Quite cool
I went in a old mitsubishi v3000 ex police car that thing could really go esp when you consider was a 1988 model this would of been early 2000s and imagine my surprise with 2 of us in the car after a few attempts we got 0 to 100 in 7.7 seconds and 180 in 4th gear pulled really well
@@Davis-y8w that’s pretty quick
@KiwiCarLife hi mate yeah I agree , and the gearing helped a lot as well like they had 14 inch tyres and good gearing yeah ,and after that at the time lol.he had pit stop put extractors on and a 2.5 inch exhaust right through for most part lol from memory yeah and after that was bit quicker still but especially from 100 to 200 lol and got there powerfully especially for non turbo, a engine builder told my mate at the time lol those v3000 motors he had they cd be highly modified if you had the $$$ they were a really good motor he told him ,even though had no vtec or anything he was told they cd rebuild those v3000 motors and make another 40 hp which us huge for na they were about 150hp stock but app being a ex police one might of been about 165 hp my mate was told ,
Does the siren button still work or did they remove the siren box?
@@alexwelton6521 yeah nah all the siren and light controllers were removed
@@KiwiCarLife I know it's illegal to have the lights but I wonder if it's illegal to have a siren. Heaps of people have the dukes of hazzard horn or those loudspeaker music cars, so even if it is what's the technical definition of a "siren" anyway?
Think the real sad thing is the older cop cars used to have police tunes on the ECU and some even performance mods beyond suspension or prior they had engine mods to make them go better.
Its one of those things there are lots of good bargains out there if you have access to the right equipment or people to fix them but most don't.
Keep having fun your only young once
Yeah they still do some things to them, but in all fairness by the 2010's they don't really need performance mods. Maybe back in the 90's when holden's 3.8 barely made like 140kW hahah
great video keep it up 🇳🇿
@@bobstoned3818 thanks man!
Love it Boys!!!
Glad to hear!
Driven from Auckland to Wellington and back in a day! That was insane!
That would be insane! But it was Wellington to Hamilton and back in a day, around 250km and 3 hours less!
I used to do that every couple of weeks about 20 years ago. It's even easier now with the road improvements.
@DiscoFang you're right an easy drive now. Basically a straight line now.
That is a good effort, especially when so much is only one lane either way. I'm used to driving Sydney to Brisbane or Melbourne which is basically 4 lane freeway all the way. Maybe that's what you need-freeway from Auckland to Wellington.
loved this video!
Good ot hear!
I thought the VF had a different 6 speed transmission. I didn't know it had a zf6?
Pretty sure they used gm transmissions only. He must have got confused with the falcon using the zf
They’re not, they use a GM 6L50
It used a GM 6L50 these little boys need to do some research
If you look you'll see the GM 6L50 is based on the ZF6. That and the ford 6R used in the Falcons are all a much of a muchness.
@@KiwiCarLife That's interesting and good to know 👍
Nice one, should keep this and off load the BMW. Lot less issues with them and the TG/GT Trio love them 😉
Are you serious haha swapping an M135i for an ex-police commodore is craaaazy
Didn't have to rebuild the torque converter on my BMW!
@@KiwiCarLife Of course kidding but after a hard life with the armed police force, I’d like to see what state the BMW would be like 😅 ready for the parts bin at that point.
Though a more taken care of VF would be a solid a find in particular a V8 model.
@@keno88 BMW’s are used as police cars all over Europe and run just fine. How many BMW’s have you owned?
@@KiwiCarLife 4 Beemers, various cooling system break downs and vanos going in a couple. The most reliable ended up being the 318ti with the 1.9L, gutless but fairly low maintenance. Comparing with the Toyotas, Holdens (commodores) and Hondas didn’t have any of those issues. Although in the CL9 the A/C compressor did go so can’t exactly leave the Honda as a perfect member either 😅
Toyota Landcruiser has been by far the most dependable ie owned and still own. Though it does like a drink thing just keeps going. The Holdens I’ve had mainly were the older 3.8 V6s and those things just keep going such low stress and low maintenance. The 3.6L V6s need a bit more work but if you look after them they’ll keep going. 😉
@@KiwiCarLife I’d still pick a Beemer over any VAG products. As for the police force, they stopped using BMWs in the UK due to numerous faults. Those were Diesels but still not good for the reputation.
Good vid guys, thankyou
@@BlairGuinea glad to hear!
You guys are crazy. I live just around the corner from that turners yard! I once went to the dark side and bought a ex police VE commodore ended up debadging it / cleaning it up and drove it around for a bit when fuel was $2.0 /l really nice comfy car for bigger guys / long legs. I kinda get it interior was a bit below what I expect from our nippon counterparts. One thing that bugged me was all the left over wiring all over the place and the hole / bung in the roof that was left over and the missing middle trim (I see the VF is the same). One thing that bugged me is NZ police moved onto Opel ZB that it was quite clear that was a waste of time those models did not last long at all, must have cost ages tooling those cars for the 2-3 years they used them. in AU / Queensland I see they use BMW 5 sedans, I thought they might be better suited as you get them in sedan wagons and all the RD must have been done by AU, however the servicing network here might be to limited. Keep up the great videos!
@@richdog9000 thanks man and yep the VF definitely solved the interior problems. But correct the fitout on the nz police cars is pretty rough
Owned an ex police au falcon (parents bought of trade me) with my influence and used it for a few years before I bought it off them, miss it and use to live by that turners too lol
Haha that’s epic
I once said to a cop who pulled me over in her Ford Falcon, "Can't they aFFord to give you a Holden? She pulled me over because I had a bolted on ponga log for a bumper and flashing tape to cover roof rust holes from a removed roof rack, but it had a warrant so she was left scratching her head.
Well done guys 👍
@@stevo184 thanks!
Thanks for the content!
All good!
Where's the battery and plug in bit thingy go... haha ho ho 😂😊😊
Haha
crazy to see someone else where I live, making similar content to me lol right behind your house in that field is also where I did a review of a WRX long ago[2014] and a short film called Drug Deal Gone Wrong both clips are on my channel, I'm just up the road and also use to live one one road beside you lol
Wow how cool! Just found your Subaru video, recognised all the locations haha
Btw Liam they’re not ZF Boxes but GM 6L boxes, the with VF V6s having the 6L50.
The GM 6L box is related to the ZF6, in essence they are basically the same gearbox just the GM one is made by GM. Same with the Ford 6R transmission
@@KiwiCarLife related design sure but different ratios along with components and construction.
Ohariu valley rd is a good road for that kind of driving... go further out for even more fun lol
@@JamesTheobald-lh6wd yeah man driven it plenty of times
@@KiwiCarLife love it - freedom on the road 😁😁
There is a product called prepsol that works amazingly on sticky residue.
@@landfisho7941 yeah I tried that and honestly paint thinners was better
@@KiwiCarLife best stuff to use is Tar and Glue remover; as the stickers have Glue on them :
I wondered to what degree police removed all their stuff before sale, suspension included.
They don’t even really remove stuff properly, still had all the wiring and cube lights in the grille. They usually just cut out the modules and call it a day. Very rough decommissioning
Did you try a caramel wheel on the adhesive? That might have been the solution.
Yeah didn’t have one but next time I’ll get one
Just like our railroad,buy it for heaps,sell for f--k all lol I remember when they brought all these cars ,we used to take them off the ships and put them in storage to get there stickers done , good times, anyways all the best boys ❤❤
Nah Holden were selling these to the nz police for just 23k new apparently! Most sell for around 5-6k so given the use they get that’s about the cheapest running you’ll ever have. Latest Skoda now cost like 100k fully kitted out
Maaate, that Commode will have been thrashed, have you seen how the cops drive 😮
Honestly once we got it fixed it drove great
blessed by the argorithm gods with this one felt good to watch a fellow kiwi creator do things i love to do, good watch !
Haha yeah this one seems to be traversing the youtube space
Imagine the history ! The chases the takedowns the armed defenders in the back, the dents after pushing the Badie’s off the road, not to mention the throw up in the back 😱
😂
🗽❤️😎
I know man very cool. Would love to find out more about that particular car
@@KiwiCarLife 😊 sorry I’m not trolling, just using my sense of humour 😁
@@alistairmcdonald2382 nah genuinely though it would be awesome to hear stories from cops who used to drive it
Perfect 👍
@@lorimerneil67 yessss
@@KiwiCarLife I have a Holden Cruze SRi-V six spd manual, am hacked off with the reduction in speed limit between Masterton and Featherston. Only yesterday I followed someone doing 70 between Tauwharenikau and Featherston, talk about incompetence and it is people who are so distracted who plow into wire cheese graters
@@lorimerneil67 oh yeah man it’s so dumb aye
@@KiwiCarLife They still haven't resealed the stretch between Masterton and Claireville
Sounds kinda suss but honestly some tyre shine on the engine bay plastics go a long way and just wipe excess off with a cloth
Yeah it just tidies it up a bit aye
Try and find a old MOT Mitzi man they had some speed Ministry of Transport for the young ones who were not around in the day.... im 44 and own a R34 coupe for 18 years
That would be interesting to check out
Baaaaaaahahaha yeah bro I went in one 1988 mitsi v3000 ex police was chipped etc this was early 2000s ish ,there were 2 of us in the car we got a 7.7 sec 0 to 100 out of it and that was getting into 3d gear was bloody fast this car at the time , 180 in 4th gear lol, and it could keep up with a v8 holden vn Calais from 80 to 160 kph this car cd really go
Great video. Is the camaro on the same platform?
Don’t think so… similar perhaps? This is same platform as Chevy SS naturally as it’s the same car
Thats Churton Park. I live round the corner from there (the opening scene)
Yep haha you know it
Finally as Australian I found a channel I can kinda relate too... were neighbours so were buddies, you stole our Holdens but that's OK our dollar isn't really different....this flip is what I like to see because it's my level from budget to skill 😉
@@stevenloynds3691 haha good stuff glad you enjoyed it! I was impressed by your Aussie car!
kiaora pls say how much it sold for in the vid or it feels incomplete. also how much u put in pls
At the time of posting the car hadn’t sold. It sold for $7000. I don’t feel like I need to share personal details like profit on cars publicly
@@KiwiCarLife i get that, i was just curious with about how it is here in nz and i like this guy if ur doin flips:
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@@KiwiCarLife th-cam.com/video/mNlurNIddqA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Eshy1jJV0ockwFGM
Have you tried wd40 to remove glue residue?
@@WaffleCake-q7d yeah tried everything, it’s not really designed for that
Does the siren button do anything?
@@emilsecker7881 nah coz they pull all the siren controllers out of it
I’ll have the Nautech cube LED’s from it if they’ve been removed 😅
Haha Jack still has them I think
@@KiwiCarLife I’d be keen of them if Jack was willing to part with them!
Heres me thinking it came with the paintjob and lights.
Yeah added the photo of the actual car from its policing days
What do you reckon these should go for a decent cleanish example?
$5-7k...by which time you're well into VE SV6 territory. Those 3.0s are lame in comparison to the 3.6.
yeah we sold this for 7k
@@KiwiCarLife Good result. The VFs are still quite modern, and though it's not up to date the tech is still flashy and at least bluetooth works, so good enough for the South Auckland set to black out and slam on ridiculous rims. But when you can get a VE SV6 in a nice colour and nice nick for that kind of money, they're a better proposition for the enthusiast, especially considering you only have to look at values of older Aussie cars to see where a lovingly cared for example of the more desirable VEs & VFs, as well as all the Barra era Fords, will be in the long term. But well done on the quick flip on the VF. It's a ballsy move, coming from an ex-Holden salesman who's seen what kind of bills they can unleash in the workshop!
How much did you end up selliing it for?
@@whitt87 7 grand
Nice job , good buy
Thanks!
Im in hamilton, this car responded to a few car accidents outside my house before.
I’m sure yeah lots of people seem to say it was commonly seen
I was waiting for the siren test 😢
Haha no siren left in the car!
I seen one that had loose baked beans in the glovebox 😂
HAHHAHAHA
4.48 ha ha ...the box cutter - woopsie
Lol
Are those red n blue lights behind the grill?
They have white strobes behind the grills.
White cube lights yeah. Coloured ones are in the lower bumper, rear tails and light bar
Is this the same car used in the police car race challenge?
Nah different one that was JFJ227 this was JGN592
How fast is it. Turn removed
We timed it from 0-100 in 7.4s
i used to work at turners and we did a better job at the sticker removal at my branch 🤣 needs lots of heat to pull the glue off with the sticker. and yeah its much more like a colored reflective tape. to remove any glue left behind on the panels we'd reheat the remaining glue, then use a part of the sticker we had removed that had glue on it to dab at the panel and pull it off. this one being a DVA they wouldnt have had to do as nice of a job at it as ones going to standard thursday auctions as DVAs typically get sold for parts
Yeah normally they get the glue off but not this one as DVA. Man it was painful to get off
@@KiwiCarLife a caramel wheel could possibly be another way to get it off
Where can I buy this from?
Already sold sorry!
@@KiwiCarLife do u have a page where I can see cars you might be selling in the future?
Love to see how much you flip it for.
Sold it for 7 grand
How much are you selling or sold car for ?
@@wilddwill9892 it’s sold for 7k
Did you sold it?
Yeah ages ago
is this on trademe?
Was, but it sold months ago
@@KiwiCarLife 😁
$3200 is CHEAP for a newer car like this. Yes its crap but would make for a decent parts car or even a quick flip
Why is it crap?
Yeah I genuinely think it's a great car. Especially for the money
Perfectly adequate daily. Power comfort and reliability.
Are the ecu's chipped??
I don’t think so. Everyone “says” they are but I think that dates back to the 90’s ones
Hcity on topppp
@@kekeesegzz good town
@@KiwiCarLife just dont go southside or eastside or westside or central and you good
Sorry re do haha
Not going to lie I was hoping that you got the police lights working at the end of the video
Oh yeah you need a whole lot of modules n stuff
What's it worth normally?
We sold it for 7k
I know this is being pedantic 🤓 …
The Land Rover Discovery 3 diesel managed to cause lots of dramas for the ZF6.
@@markmcgrath9098 really? Never knew! They seem to be solid in BMW’s
@@KiwiCarLife yes, several factors. 2.5 - 2.7 tons bring one issue. Another was the low rev torque the 2.7L diesel put out. Apparently some harmonics would occur when the harmonic balancer started to fail - I’d have to recheck that to be sure. Oh and lastly, the idiots in Land Rover marketing specified that the gearbox was sealed for life.
Can anyone buy from turners or do you need a curtain license
Just gotta sign up
For removing the glue, grab a bottle of eucalyptus oil. You can pay me later.
@@GBCobber could give that a try
@@KiwiCarLife Won't regret it. Here's another tip. Aerogard is great for removing permanent marker ink. Just beware it will damage some materials.
I had an SV6 for a while then went to an E60 530i motorsport, handling wise the Commodore was every bit as good as the BMW, with ever so slightly slightly better steering feel. The BMW had more grip with wider tyres at the back, but the ride on the BMW could be a bit harsh. BTW I thought the commodore had a GM6L50 transmission?
Yeah the GM 6L is basically identical to a ZF6. And yeah the E60 was far from BMW's best 5 series.
With 45 yrs in the trade launching these suckers i can say with a fair bit of certainty that while the odd bogan ended up with ford or a holden they were generally on their last legs ....by far the market was a company car or farmers wifes car that was used to tow the boat or caravan with the sportier versions sold to successfull directors who could with a few pennies turn them into beasts that would often blow away the more fancied and more often than not euro that cost double or treble the amount.
While you gen z ers are doing a reasionable job at this entertainment lark on the little screen a little humility and reverence shown to a brand that for the most was way better designed for the kiwi and aussie market than anything else and had a much more loyal following
What enigne 3.0 LFW or 3.6 LFX
3.0L
@KiwiCarLife very underated engine heaps of power as long as you keep them in the high rev range
Slagging off Ford and Holden. That's a paddlin.
Well, he is a BMW owner after all.
Hey I'm entitled to an opinion. They serve their place but I think it's the stigma of owning one that turns me off
If only you feared the stigma of a paddlin more
Ima be the best rapper- Claim ur before the fame tickets now
I shall not
@@KiwiCarLife Evokes are trash. To all those looking to buy one you should spend a lil more to get the sv6. Evoke got 18in wheels with no body kit😂
how much did you get for it ?
@@ruditamati 7 grand
@@KiwiCarLife not a bad flip, buy for 3k, spend a week on it and sell for 7k, but the motors obviously supercharged and pistons and displacement forged, i myself would change the rims and sell it for at least 15k, i mean it is cop fast, not factory
did it sell?
Yep!
Shorts in winter its all for the content.
@@Tiger_Pawzzzzz you know it HAHA