Ep 07: Grip and Electric explained

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  • In this video I show the differences between a Grip and a Gaffer along with other positions like Best Boy and Key Grip and how they all come together to light a scene.
    This hierarchy changes from set to set but here are some basics.
    Dave on Twitter: @dave_donaldson
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    5.8.2016 (101 subs)
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  • @torroforthewin5791
    @torroforthewin5791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7years later and this is on point. Came looking for a refresher and found this gold. This was entertaining and well taught.

  • @dslrvideoshooter
    @dslrvideoshooter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Dave, can't get enough of these videos. Keep up the stellar work!

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      DSLR Video Shooter thanks man, will do after I get off this shoot

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +thanks homie, there will be more. I just gotta get through this shoot I'm on first. DSLR Video Shooter

    • @cinema-q
      @cinema-q 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. Awesome channel 🤙🏾🤙🏾

  • @YashAditya
    @YashAditya 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Love the videos, Mr. Gosling

  • @GroupSoliloquy
    @GroupSoliloquy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the videos. You mention Gaffer as an old theatre term, in truth the profession goes all the way back to whaling ships. When hemp and counter weight rigging systems became common in theatres they would employ sailors as they were experienced with rope and rigging. The sailors also re-purposed several tools from sailing for use in theatre. The "Gaff" is a tool used by whalers to bring the carcass of the whale close to the ship.
    I sometimes laugh to myself what a strange thread of history has brought me to the mid-bridge of a theatre poking at battens with a hooked painter's pole.

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      GroupSoliloquy hahaha yea, what’s been really great about starting this channel is all the history I sometimes learn when I go to research what I’m talking about. Thanks for the history man. I’m sure the viewers will love seeing this information. I know I did!

  • @AdamBogan
    @AdamBogan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for the breakdown. Your video is packed full of info. I subscribbled.

  • @cinema-q
    @cinema-q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Happy to have found this after combing through some confusing and conflicting articles. Excellent stuff. 👌🏾👌🏾

  • @ReelPassionBemidji
    @ReelPassionBemidji 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thanks for making these videos. I'm glad I found you. I always thought the G & E stuff was industry secrets that had a secret society to keep competition away. Being a lone wolf in my backwoods town of Bemidji, MN and not working on sets with a proper crew I appreciate learning some of the industry language and tips. Wanting to being a DP I have to learn to shape light by myself. I like the dry humor.
    Thanks a lot and hope you keep making videos. Hope we can connect sometime.

  • @CineBaker
    @CineBaker 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In the UK we generally have Gaffers and Sparks in charge of both stands, rigging and electric. 'Grips' are in charge of rigging for camera movement- so dolly, jib etc.

    • @Rasmusleophoenix
      @Rasmusleophoenix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sam Baker Yeah the same here in Denmark. I wouldn’t trust a grip with one of my lights were I’m from😁

  • @danielmckendrick1371
    @danielmckendrick1371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super helpful, man thanks. I'm sharing a bunch of your videos with people trying to get into film. You've created a magnificent learning resource.

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      much appreciated man. Love hearing that. Super rewarding. Glad I could help

  • @alex0589
    @alex0589 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man that animation was genius. Excellent work.

  • @juicyi3ig
    @juicyi3ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome visuals fellas :)

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      fellas? its just me hahaha. thanks man

  • @_cameraboy
    @_cameraboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Woof is pretty much universal to every department.

    • @Rasmusleophoenix
      @Rasmusleophoenix 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      _cameraboy Never ever heard of that before now.

  • @thecitizenjoan
    @thecitizenjoan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “Woof” 86 that

  • @emilvonschwartzenberg4339
    @emilvonschwartzenberg4339 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome, man!

  • @bryanalcantarfilms
    @bryanalcantarfilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Loved it!

  • @luisfg1990
    @luisfg1990 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job with you channel im an aspiring dp/c and ill love seeing more of your episodes they are really helpful , thanks a lot for your time and effort

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      no prob ;)

  • @SherryHackneyCade
    @SherryHackneyCade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a location owner, I highly recommend these!

  • @toddwmac
    @toddwmac 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great use of your sound track! Keep it up.

  • @HeartAeneas
    @HeartAeneas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love it

  • @RiskyRabbit
    @RiskyRabbit 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    REALLY great video!

  • @holdersteven
    @holdersteven 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well presented Gratful;ly yours!

  • @airfox
    @airfox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    loved it!

  • @rebekahlloyd6335
    @rebekahlloyd6335 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful.

  • @mounthideaway4225
    @mounthideaway4225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "WOOF" comes from old RCA radio and television engineers. It is an homage to "Nipper the Wonder Dog", the dog on the RCA Victor logo. The RCA/NBC building used to have a giant statue of the dog and the record player at the top of the building.

  • @tqaproduction
    @tqaproduction 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWSOME!

  • @ASSADZMANFILMS
    @ASSADZMANFILMS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome

  • @alexisradlmaier6858
    @alexisradlmaier6858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video!

  • @NomadOverNormal
    @NomadOverNormal 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! Question: So if I'm the DP and I'm lighting the dinner scene on a giant movie set. I bring my gaffer and Key grip aside and I tell them "So we're looking for a warm tungsten, warmer than 3200k. Our key will be motivated by a chandlier over the dinner table, the edge light on this side of the table will be coming from the kitchen, and the edge light from that side will be motivated from the window/moonlight."
    What comes next? They know my vision. I'm assuming they'd ask me something like "Do you want Mikel blue or white?" But after that, then what? How do the Gaffer and Key grip interact at that point?

  • @mitchell2820
    @mitchell2820 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such great video's

  • @unknownflapjack7O7
    @unknownflapjack7O7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    dope! 👌

  • @jeremyhle
    @jeremyhle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's usually the differences between a grip package and a lighting package in terms of stands? Like are the majority of the stands on a set supplied by the grip package or does the lighting package come with its own stands for all of its fixtures?

  • @TripleTSingt
    @TripleTSingt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In German, a "Gaffer" roughly translates to "someone who watches", but in a naughty way. Like watching women undress through binoculars. And growing up, I always read "Gaffer" in movie credits and was really confused.

    • @LostProphet195
      @LostProphet195 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol. that's pretty funny. But in all seriousness, the movie industry practically has it's own language. There's a book called Movie Speak by Tony Bill (he worked on the movie Flyboys.) It helps explain the phrases and terms used in the industry. Also, it's not that expensive.

    • @lightrecordsentertainment9720
      @lightrecordsentertainment9720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Deutschland Gaffer ist ein Oberbeleuchter

  • @steelbluesleepR
    @steelbluesleepR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    your intro music and graphics reminds me of Film Riot's, but I'm not complaining at all.

  • @katojuakhil9277
    @katojuakhil9277 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was best video 😂🔥

  • @ELJIII_
    @ELJIII_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great channel but consider a playlist with the episodes in order

  • @danallen7107
    @danallen7107 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On large productions grips don't touch electric, but most of those people aren't looking for advice here, they're gone through union training or have years of experience. On indie production it is Very common for grips to touch electric and vice versa.

  • @benmcphee4401
    @benmcphee4401 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thanks for the explanation. :) Was just wondering if you know about this subject in the "British System"? (I'm in Australia).
    I've been a stills photographer for a bunch of years, and am moving in to motion. But in the stills world, we operate the camera, as well as position, AND modify the lights. So I was just wondering where someone like me would best fit in on a motion shoot. I feel like I could be handy in any department (but there's definitely gaps in my knowledge in the film world - mostly to do with the electric side of things, and also just procedures and best practice).

  • @DENZELINAFRICA
    @DENZELINAFRICA 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woof haha lol 😂 thanks for the Advice 😋 Buddy 👌

  • @tastefulmusic6920
    @tastefulmusic6920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    subbed bro

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TastefulMusic thanks bro

    • @tastefulmusic6920
      @tastefulmusic6920 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GripTips კახაბერი im this and i add u on facebook amazing man !

  • @OMA0816
    @OMA0816 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. . You saved my life by this tiny informative video! Is there a similar channel runs by a gaffer for people who want to learn more about lighting? Thank you so much :)

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oum look up some of my friends. “Meet the Gaffer” with Luke Seerveld, “Burnies Apple box” with Craig Burnie Burns, www.gripsupport.com, and Matthews studio equipments channel with Martin

  • @devPunks
    @devPunks 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Must know the name of the song in the background during the "football play" on the set you described. LOL. Everytime I hear it nobody around me knows the name. Feel like the world is playing a big joke on me. Help...PLEASE! lol
    Great video by the way! You've gained a new subscriber.

    • @520bert420
      @520bert420 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Carmen habanera is the name

  • @terrahumphrey9455
    @terrahumphrey9455 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank u

  • @BigJonMCT
    @BigJonMCT 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best Boy should be called "Light Chief" IMO. Buzz...your best girl...woof. Nice insight into the COC.

    • @thanelovers
      @thanelovers 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well that would be quite confusing because another name for a Gaffer is a Chief Lighting Tech.

  • @simonrabeder1599
    @simonrabeder1599 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gaffer in German is similar in meaning to peeping tom or creep. Pronunciation: “Guffah”

  • @Martynn-wo4rn
    @Martynn-wo4rn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    In England(UK) a Gaffer is a boss of a company (slang ) Also a coach/manager of a soccer team

  • @afraentertainment_
    @afraentertainment_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Thz zbrooo

  • @xpurexheartx
    @xpurexheartx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing, industry level content in this channel. Congratulations!

  • @shanepikelin
    @shanepikelin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats a stipple?? Love the vids! Watching through all of them right now!

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its a lens that you throw in front of a light that spreads the light rays (for lack of a better term) in a wide spread. almost like the knob on the back of a tungsten light. spot to flood. stipple is basically a flood.

  • @JeroenZwart
    @JeroenZwart 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool channel!
    So when the lighting technicians put the light in its place, do they also place the stand? Lets say its a combo stand with the 1200.

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeroen Zwart in a perfect word yes but sometimes it doesn’t always happen that way.

    • @JeroenZwart
      @JeroenZwart 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aha thanks. Just curious, how would that work? Will the lighting crew bring their own stands in their truck? Or do the grips bring them? Or is it just 1 whole equipment package that grips/electricians use?
      Here in The Netherlands we do everything as an electrician. Power, fixtures, stands, rigging, sand, condor work, etc. And we bring our own truck(s) and generators. The grippers mostly do dolly/crane stuff and bring that with them in their truck.

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeroen Zwart in my experience, it varies from set to set. In LA it’s very divided as to who brings what on what and does what. Grips have their truck, electricians have theirs. This is more of a Union way/ bigger budget kind of way. But everything else will vary per production. Which means less budget for labor and consolidating for budget. I’m very use to that style but would love to be on more of the bigger budget stuff just so that I’m not killing myself doing everything and the safety of the crew is better because their isn’t a haul ass for cheap feel. At the same time?... the day goes by quicker ☺️

    • @JeroenZwart
      @JeroenZwart 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good insights, thanks for the info and good luck with the channel!

  • @fernandoquant
    @fernandoquant 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahahaha, "no, it is not a guy with a bunch of tape" xD, i seriously thought that at the beggining, xD

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fernando Quant RS hahaha so did I

  • @moyosorejimba
    @moyosorejimba 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    SUSBCRIBED!!!!!!

  • @linusreuer3289
    @linusreuer3289 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun fact: in german gaffer is the expression for someone who looks at something or someone constantly in a very inappropriate situation :)

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Linus Reuer ha!

  • @skatepark02
    @skatepark02 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is like film riot for grips. Are you guys affiliated in anyway?
    I love this channel and you’re making me want to be a grip instead of a DoP

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaha I appreciate that. We’re not affiliated but they definitely inspired me but I think our humor is similar, I think I get my delivery inspo from Ryan.

    • @skatepark02
      @skatepark02 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GripTips i thought it was an extension to the channel at first, it’s perfect! Keep the videos coming I love it!

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skatepark02 workin at it when I can

  • @philderp3326
    @philderp3326 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I doubt I'll get an answer to this but, Would the key grip be in charge of safety set alongside the first AD.
    Also let's say a camera operator is walking backwards handheld with the key grip be responsible for the safety of that operator through guidance and an extra set of eyes
    And of course everyone is in charge of safety.

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes and yes.
      For example, I was working on a show where we were using pneumatic canons on set and we were trying to protect our dolly grips from being blasted with lexan.
      The key can also be part responsible for spotting an operator as well as we are not just lighting, but we also are camera support. We literally protect them from wind. Like when a steadicam is shooting outside we use a double net to protect the operator for wind, while another grip watches the operators back.
      Also fun fact, most people think the AC does these things, but when an operator is using a camera on their shoulders, Dolly grips are who hold the camera between takes. If the operator drops the camera off their shoulder due to miscommunication of handing the camera off, it falls on the dolly grip.
      Hope this helps

    • @philderp3326
      @philderp3326 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @GripTips This helps out tremendously. I'm on smaller indie film sets, so I haven't gotten to that caliber of something similar to what you're speaking of.
      But things like making sure the camera operator is safe for steadicam, handheld, etc., I understood to be a part of being the key grip. But from your explanation, it seems more of yes, it's the key grip's responsibility, but it extends over to other grips in the event that the key grip is also participating in some sort of camera support.
      I also didn't know that grips were an extension of support for the camera team, and the tip you provided with using a double to knock off wind from the operator is great, thanks.
      I didn't realize that grips would take the camera from the operator between breaks, especially since, at least within the sets that I've been on, the 1st AC would keep from their chairs to the camera.
      Thanks

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@philderp3326 sure thing, if you have any other questions or wanna chat, hit me up on Facebook and I’ll answer ☺️

  • @MrArtiisan
    @MrArtiisan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I have some more sir.

  • @305kubrick
    @305kubrick 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grip Tips.
    Rib Tips.

  • @phenyospace
    @phenyospace 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    the rock song that startedthe video

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Phenyo Motalaute my buddies disbanded band. “Making moves” - Andreyka

  • @egodreas
    @egodreas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm just going to go with Gripper and Key Gaff. I like that better, I think.

  • @jaturk40
    @jaturk40 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wrong in the first statement. Gaffer and Key Grip.

  • @jordansteffen
    @jordansteffen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey I'm your tape guy I got white tape pink tape black tape.... I'm your tape guy.... with a bunch of tape

  • @cartoune
    @cartoune 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shoulda been called "I Dream of G&E".

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eugene Ivashchenko ......damn it

  • @electricraf
    @electricraf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have never seen a grip handle a scrim. That's strictly a juicer's job.

  • @alex0589
    @alex0589 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    woof?

    • @alex0589
      @alex0589 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      woof.

  • @thecitizenjoan
    @thecitizenjoan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why you look like Ryan Gosling?

    • @GripTips
      @GripTips  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      J. Montrice somebody has to

  • @malkamartz
    @malkamartz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We're not sexist"

  • @AdamBogan
    @AdamBogan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nobody watches new movies or shows anymore so there''s that. Pretty soon the director will have to grip and gaff while directing. That's what I do when my wife and I make "movies". 😅

    • @AdamBogan
      @AdamBogan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Disney, Amazon, Pixar, everyone is laying off people right now. Not to be negative, but its a fact jack.

  • @hipstershep
    @hipstershep 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "we're not sexist here"... but, the director, the dp, the gaffer and the key grip are all men. No shade just pointing out unconscious biases. love x

  • @thedude4795
    @thedude4795 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do movies even get made... barely

  • @clhound
    @clhound 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Christian Bale needs to watch this video.

  • @Jamesrgwright
    @Jamesrgwright 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You say you aren’t sexist, yet every other role you mention contains a male pronoun. The little pink bow on Best Girl doesn’t really support your claim either.
    I only point this out because I teach on a Film Degree with a pretty even split of male and female (with a few non-binary students thrown in)
    Watching videos claimed “not-sexist” and seeing all roles male-ified - this would most likely alienate a female cinematographer student.
    Shame though, because your descriptions and illustrations are apt and clear.
    Just food for thought.