Mission Models Paint - In Depth Review.
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In this Video I Take an in depth look at Mission Models Acrylic Paint.
My goal for this video was to provide an unbiased review on Mission Models Paint, and put them through their paces, testing the sprayability, durability, coverage and reactivity.
Most of the builds on my channel use Mission Models paints so for more in depth tips on spraying please feel free to check those out .
Some of the paints were supplies by:
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Good review of this specific paint. I'd like to see a thorough review, side by side, of all the major paints. I know that would be a big job, but I also think a lot of people would like that and you'd see a big following. Thanks.
Hi Paul, I may be able to do a roundup in the future but as you said, it would be a lot of work. Also it would probably run into the hours instead of minutes !
LPJ Models Just split it up by range/brand. If you send an email to every major brand with a link of this video and tell them that you’d also do an in depth review if they send you a sample, I’m sure almost all of them would.
These are some of my favorite paints. They just cover and flow so nicely while rarely giving me dry tip. Super nice.
I guess their like Tamiya and mr aqueous.
First off, another well done video! Second, I’ve been using Mission Model Paints for a while and I love them. They go down really well, and like you said, have a nice selection of paints.
Thanks John ! I think they are a great paint too. Very easy to get what effects you want !
Thanks for the review, James. I haven't used Mission Model paints as yet but your review has given me the impetus to give them a go sometime. Congratulations for achieving 10K subs....it's well deserved....your channel is a must for all modelers!
I use Mission Model Paints and I like them lots but there are two BIG problems:
1. The Polyurethane additive has a VERY short shelf life. With the bottle properly closed and stored in a dark cool drawer mine quickly turned to a thick gloop.
2. You can wash dry paint off your model with WATER. Seriously, try doing that swatch test with water (instead of MMP thinner) on an old brush, give the paint a little scrub and see what happens.
My conclusion is they are lovely paints, but flawed.
Hi Mr Models Man, I think all paints have a trade off of some description. Tamiya for example, when using tamiya I always get texture from bouncing paint particles, like on the side of a fuselage when spraying the wing root. And if you see my other videos I spray very close so it's not drying in the air !
Mig and ak are very weak I have found, they dont like oil thinners and I always had them lift when weathering.
Laquers are great but you have the stink and you need a booth or a mask.
With mission models I have found they work well for me, I have heard about the poly going bad but this hasn't happened to me, I dont keep it in the fridge, we'll see what british summertime does to it !
I always clear coat between major layers so water affecting the paint doesnt give me much issue !
Thanks for the comment it's good to talk paint
@@lpjmodels I agree that there's always a trade off - no paint 'has it all'.
The issue of MMP being easily compromised by mere water is just an inconvenience really. Now I am aware of the weakness I can accommodate it and work around it.
On the other hand, the abysmal shelf life of the poly additive angers me. MMP suggest on their website that the product will deteriorate if left in bright light and in the heat (and so are aware of its limited shelf life) but say it will last if stored and cared for properly. From my experience, that's nonsense. The product is not fit for use and, quite frankly, I feel ripped off by Mission Models. From the comments in this video alone, I'm clearly not alone in having shelf-life problems with this additive.
I was considering Mission Model paints fir the reason that they are non toxic. This review was helpful and informative. As acrylic paints go I see no reason why I wouldnt use Mission. Ty.
Thanks Ryan !
I would love to see a review on Vallejo!
I have been using this paint for about a year and I do like it. Chipping it has it's challenges but it can be done. I have been more than pleased with the color and finish of the paint.
I found adding more poly makes HS chipping a bit easier, I'm still working towards getting the right result and I think I'll make a video if I ever get there !
@@lpjmodels I think you'll be ok. This paint is tricky when doing this. I just go slow and don't use a lot of water to do it.
If you're chipping the Dunkgengelb you'll notice a discoloration from the water. Not to worry thought it kinda gives it a neat effect. But will go mostly go away when dry and with filters and weathering it's hardly noticeable.
I would like to see your results when you get another video up.
Good luck and enjoy.
New sub to your little cult! Great review, I might just give these paints a try. Looking forward to your future projects.
Excellent! I really learned a lot from this video. Thank you.
I use either Mission Models or AK Real Color Lacquers depending on my mood and I have to say I like the AK real colors better. I don't have anywhere near the faffing around that I have to do with MM and the AK Real colors spray on beautifully
Great shout-out to Domino. You should pay a visit to their warehouse on the Belgian-French border if you ever get the chance. It's a steel & concrete modelling paradise with rows upon rows of every possible brand's boxes stacked 3 meters high. Plus they also sell fine liquor and cigars on the ground floor 😁
It sounds like a dream ! They have a stunning range of stock and are nice to deal with .
Howdy James, I just found your channel and enjoyed watching all your videos. Your presentations are joy to watch and very informative. I have learned several new skills after watching your use of oils and chipping. Thank you. Please share more of your skills and great builds.
I may give Mission Models Paint a try. Although, here in the U.S. their paint, thinner and poly combination are rather more expensive than say Tamiya or Vallejo. But after watching all your videos I plan to give Mission Models Paint a try. Thank you and best regards from Dallas, Texas.
Thankyou Robert ! Mission paints have just under twice as much in them hence the slightly more expensive prizes. I Hope you enjoy them, there is a Facebook group for help and good chats; mission models fan page , if your on Facebook that is ! Take care
James
VERY interesting video with a lot of useful comments - never tried Mission paints yet but may well give them a go soon based on your video.....
Thank you for the video. Is the Poly really necessary? Many people say the bottle get useless after being used just after a few months. I hope the paints can last longer on the shelf.
Fortunately the poly is not necessary. From their site:
"MMP Polyurethane Intermix is an acrylic non-solvent based paint additive. After reducing your paint with MMP Thinner add one or two drops of MMP Polyurethane. Less is more! MMP Poly will increase flow from the airbrush , slower drying times , added blending times for fine brush painting , durability and increased leveling properties. In addition you will find a durable finish with a slight eggshell finish which is perfect for washes eliminating the need for further clear coating."
I have had their paints for over a year and they are still fine. The poly though I found out the hard way after not using them for about 3 months that it had just hardened in the bottle. The cost isn't bad up front but if you have a bottle and only use about 1/5 before it goes off then it's a expensive investment.
My issue with these paints is poly additive. The first bottle I bought dried out shortly after I opened it. The second bottle I bought was dried to the consistency of Elmers Glue when I opened it. Fool me twice...
Good review James. I haven't used Mission yet but they appear to be pretty good. The only thing I don't care for is having to add all the extra products like The Poly and having to use they're specific thinners. What I like about Tamiya, Ak, Mig and Vallejo is they can be mixed with other brands of thinners and spray great... and I have a mountain of them. I thought the metallics looked best with the gloss black under coat as well. Congrats on getting to 11,000 now. Cheers M8!
MMP can be thinned with UMP, I have done so in my last project and the result are very good.
blacklupos oh that’s good to know. MMP just seems more complicated to use than other paints from what I’ve seen anyway. I’d have to try them to be honest.😉
Thanks Scott ! I know what you mean in regard to using their thinner and the optional poly, I think like any paint, once you get used to it it's all second nature!
Thanks for the congrats ! It's awesome to see people subbing and generally giving good feedback I didn't think my work was worthy but there you go!.
Take care mate !
Excellent review mate. I've been using them for a year or so and they would overall have to be my favourite acrylic. That said, I can get the metallic's to work, but I think Vallejo have them beat on this with their Metal Color range which is easier to use and gives the same or better finish and is acrylic based. I love their primer, but its very expensive compared to other brands when you consider the size container it ships in, but then again, it sprays beautifully as you demonstrated. I've had one bottle of paint from them that seemed to be mixed wrong from the factory. It was supposed to be tire black, but had a distinctly green shade to it, even when I thoroughly shook the bottle before using. I've found they spray with the poly, nearly as good as lacquers and they are a very controllable paint. I also love the white paint for its coverage and control. With the clears I've have only used their gloss clear, but found it easy to work with and very tough once it had dried. I was able to wet sand it with a fine sandpaper and then use a scratch remover car polish on it and got a nice gloss finish. I've also sprayed the gloss over plastic I tinted and its smoothed out the finish very nicely on the clear parts. You can apparently dip clear parts too in the gloss, but I haven't tried that yet. I've found their thinner also works really well with Vallejo and Life Color paints and really improves how they spray too. Basically if you can mix a brand of paint with Vallejo thinner, you can use Mission Models thinner and poly with it. Overall the poly additive has been a mixed bag for me. While it works great, I've had it start to go off with two bottles I've owned, long before I had finished either. When it starts to go off, it seems ok in the bottle, but actually makes spraying the paint worse. I've ordered some more only a couple of days ago and plan on leaving this in the fridge when not in use, to see if a more consistent temperature helps with its life span. So overall my experience is its not a perfect product, but when you learn some of its quirks, you can get a great result from it. Dan
Thanks Dan, I think like with most products there are always things to learn and every paint has its downside, like vallejo and its tendency to clog, tamiya ( I always get surface texture). Mig comes up with white spirit e.t.c
Thanks for your feedback and support !
Seems to be a really good paint line, strong and resistant, with it seems a good range of color
Coolest camo ever the caunter scheme!
I haven’t been able to use my trove of MMP once on a build. Being a smart enough modeler I test spray it on styrene. Every time I get sputtering. Yes my brushes are clean. Yes my psi is per spec as are my proprietary thinners and poly they require. And don’t let it near water..
Nice color range. Your use of MMP will get me to try them. But I'm not sold on their Metalics and clear coat. You got me sold on VMS varnishes and I'm a diehard fan of Metalizers, R.I.P., and Alclad. Thanks again for your wonderful and informative videos.
Thanks John !
Maybe one of the most honest review i saw on this subject, thank's !
That's great to hear thankyou !
A pretty objective overview thanks. Would like a comparison beside another major brand. Also very interested to a vid on completion of the armored car, as this is going to be one of my next models. Great work as always.
Hi Nick, the Armoured car may feature in a technique video in the future but it wont be a full build video unfortunately.
I'm a huge fan of the MMP paints. I only spray with the poly. You can really knock that sheen down with ease using the matte clear top coat they make.
Nice review. Appreciate your time, effort, and objectivity.
I've yet to find an acrylic primer that works (i.e., doesn't "roll" when sanded). I use them because I care about my brain and lungs, but compared to a ntirocellulose-based lacquer, acrylics are pretty poor. All of them.
Still, I've managed to adapt. It's what we modelers do.
Hi Darrell, I have been using styrylnrez of late and thats pretty solid, I havent had a rolling but I havent needed to sand much
@@lpjmodels I use stynylrez as well (black, white, and grey), plus some other brands. I've just adapted. During the build phase, after filling and sanding, I hit problem areas with Mr. Surfacer. Once I'm confident everything is as it should be, I prime.
I miss a spot or two on occasion, but it works well enough and my lungs are happier for it. Always open to learning new techniques, as well!
gotta say, I'm interested in trying these paints out now! I'm not really a die-hard fan of any particular brand and i use all sorts of stuff, but mostly vallejo and life colour, but i will sometimes use hataka red line acrylics and humbrol enamels. Compared to the above, these mission models paints seem a little more resilient than the vallejo or hataka, and life colour seem to be pretty bullet proof until enamel thinner is brought into the equation, but they are temperamental to spray sometimes, and the humbrol enamels honestly spray quite nicely and leave a very smooth, super flat finish (unless its a gloss colour) but without a booth, them smell is........I would say 'bad' but honestly, without a booth or mask, i think 'deadly' is probably closer to the mark, but then lacquers are not far different in that regard!
Thanks for a great review. I will not be trying MMP due to their "special" system and their high startup cost (almost 22€ for 1 bottle of paint, poly and thinner). But it is good to have different brands to choose between.
Great review.........Mission Model paints looks like good product. Polyurethane is the key, I add it to all my acrylic paints I airbrush.
Thanks Benny!
Very thorough and well thought out review - the durability and light/dark coverage properties are things tests seldom touch on.
Also, thanks for holding right back on the music. You're a quietly spoken chap and the quality and structure of your commentary makes it worth hearing above any background noise.
Thanks Paul ! I have been going through microphones to try and get one that has enough volume to give me more presence and be able to sit in the mix correctly. Working on a phone I cant yet mix things with great accuracy, if i had an app that gave eq setting and maybe a compressor I could give better commentary.
also I'm not very good at public speaking, I try very hard to make my wording crisp and coherent maybe it will get more confident with time !
Thanks for the feedback on the review, when asked to do the review I wanted to show thing that I would want to know about the paint. Whilst I like subtle shading fx it would be good to know if you could cover a model to a solid colour with minimal passes .
I wasnt initially going to have the reactivity section in the video either, but near the end of editing I thought it would be to everyone's benefit to have it in there. I think it would have been a bad decision to leave it out.
Thanks again Paul !
I really love the MM primers. Use the white on figures, and the red on tanks.
They are a pretty good primer !
This was fantastic. Thank you. I just picked some of these up and then saw this video. Because of this video I know I’m going to return the clear flat I bought but not the primer. Even though I’m not thrilled that you need the thinner to make the primer work. I didn’t know that at the time I bought it. So that was a happy accident. I would love to know how these paint work with other primers and top coats. Unfortunately these paints are extremely expensive.
Thanks Norman,
They work over any good primer, mr surfacer, styrylnrez e.t.c and for a matt coat I highly reccomend vms matt varnish or winsor and newton artist acrylic.
They work out similarly priced to tamiya ( just if you brought 2 pots ) there aren't a lot of companies who give you paints in 30ml pots and they last a while .
Thanks mate
@@lpjmodels no thank you for the feedback. This helps
One thing I like about this paint is the pigmentation. It's a lot higher than other paints so a little goes a long, long way. It sprays smoothly too. I'm a die hard Tamiya guy, but I will definitely use mission model paints.
Great review. You did not mention these paints do not smell at all !!!
Great video, thank you and best of all? None of that background music that seems to be everyone's obsession these days that does nothing but serve to irritate and fight the narration.
So thank you for that, and thank you for a great review,, although I am a diehard Mr Aqueaous and Tamiya (including their new lacquers) man.
Thanks for the feedback!
On my build videos I do use a soundtrack, sometimes I dont have much to say and it pads out the experience.
I quite enjoyed your video and am a big fan of Mission Model paints. However, I run into a problem with them running/lifting after applying Tamiya or Mr. Hobby mark fit. I suspect my coat of matt finish wasn't thick enough so I will try a couple of coats next time before applying decals. Thank you again!
Hi Gregory B, I haven't used mr Mark fit. Is that stronger that the other solutions ?
@@lpjmodels It seems to be. I am just new back in the hobby after 35 yr absence but am discovering mixing and matching paint products doesn't work too well. ;-)
Great and thorough review, thanks very much for posting. I have been using MM paints for some time, and I agree with all your conclusions, both positive and negative. I do however feel a bit uncomfortable with the sensitivity of the paint-thinner ratio and sometimes I do not get it completely right, resulting in sputtering and sometimes clogging. I guess it's down to experience with these paints (I still need more practice), and the dire warnings of MM that we should follow their recommended ratios to the letter (which is good advice, of course). But this can make you reluctant to experiment with different ratios and that's the thing: this paint makes you worry all the time about thinning rations. But when you get it, it sprays so beautifully and a tiny quantity lasts for so long, that you forgive all the intricacies of getting it right :-)
One more thing, a small detail, but so important: MM Paints not only last for very long time due to their heavy pigmentation and low recommended thinning for spraying, but MM designed their bottles' labels leaving a small vertical gap - so the label does not cover the whole bottle, 360 deg, but leaves a small "window", through which you can actually see how much paint remains. Most people may find this insignificant, but I find it ingenious, as an extremely useful, practical and easy to implement design choice. I don't think any other brand of any modeling product does this (perhaps with the exception of the Alclad Metallics, although there the gap is extremely narrow). It's actually much easier for a manufacturer to have the label wrap around completely and stick to itself, than design it with a small gap on purpose.
I have one question though: what do you do with any remaining paint after you are done airbrushing? I do not dare to put it back in the original bottle, since I worry about the effect that the thinner (and the poly when I use it) will have on the rest of the paint. So I developed the habit of considering it "activated" and using a new, empty plastic bottle to store it from the airbrush. This led me to actually using that second bottle of "Activated" paint, to add new paint and new thinner (and poly) for all subsequent uses of that paint. But the whole process is obviously too laborious, and you need lots of empty paint bottles... Does this make sense? I have not asked the manufacturer about that yet, but I wonder if others have the same concern.
This was never an issue with any of the other brands of paint (acrylics or lacquers) since adding any remaining paint with extra thinner into the original bottle is not a problem, and none of the other paints are so sensitive to the thinning rations anyway. Any thoughts?
Hi Manos, I think some wastage is the down side of having the paint and activator as separate products. Since I mix all my paints in disposable medicine cups anyway, it hasn't bothered me. If I'm not sure how much I need, I go for less then I think I will need and mix up a new smaller batch later if I need it, when I can more accurately estimate what I need. Since the paint ratios are so easy to understand, it doesn't take long to mix up more paint if required. Dan
@@DansModelBench Thanks for the reply Dan, yes this is a good practice. I guess with experience most of these problems can be resolved.
Best regards, Manos
How well do these paints handbrush for detail painting and big base coats?
I have just bought a few of these to try out great review on them leart alot on them before starting with them but think I have to high hope's for them but will see after this review when get them going in the nato colour's! They are the hardest by far to get right I'm finding just now! I love my ww2 model's but I love all the bergepanzers and Bordor model's new kodiak etc so need nato alot at the moment! I got the US interior green for the oshkosh trucks and the new HB man German trucks but its more an OD than an interior green! Don't like that one but will try s few different primers to see if can get it right!
This was a very helpful video. I started using mission models paint and I like the finished results but have been having issues with it clogging my airbrush where.ive had to mix more thinner. Has this been an issue for others? What is also the ideal needle size to use this paint?
Thanks, very thorough and timely for me, I've been looking to buy their luftwaffe set, think I may proceed. Do you happen to know if it reacts with isopropyl alcohol or other paint brands?
I'm not sure about IPA I think i have heard that it reacts badly but it might be worth checking out the MM website !
My 2nd favourite paints after AK Real Colours. AK Real Colours is much easier to use, more durable and has a wider range but being lacquers they are much harder to clean and are pretty smelly.
Mission Models is probably my favourite Acrylic, I've been impressed with the finish and the range is pretty good, but are a real faff to get right but once you get used to it they are brilliant
First of all I want to say thank you for this exceptional good review. I use myself Mission Colors and never tried other brands. I'm almost novice with airspraying and I must say they are easy to use. The consistency of the paint however is quite different from a bottle to another and I had to learn on how thin them correctly. One thing I learnd is that it is easier for me to add a little too much thinner and turn down the spray pressure. I just need to build up the painting in several layers until coverage and opacity looks great to me.
The only issues I have is with the clear coats. I have already ruined a model because I ended up with a «frosty» finish, and it was not smooth at all (it was rough when touching it). Of course I assume I was responsable and not the product itself. Could you please give me some advices to help me use these clear coats correctly. Or maybe a little tutorial on your TH-cam on this subject would be great 😁😁.
Also I found this video released by MMP : th-cam.com/video/bOGST-eRRws/w-d-xo.html
Again thank you for sharing your experience.
Alain.
Alain hi ! Pigments all vary in size and this will contribute to the different viscosity of paint. Colour like white and some earth colours using tradtional oil paint for example are more bodied, whilst pigments like prussian blue and sap green are a lot fine in pigment size, this carries over to most hobby paints as well, if you mill certain pigments too fine they just become ultra transparent.
The clear coats seem to be tricky to get to grips with, the gloss needs to go on wet and maybe with a little poly to help self level a bit better.
The matt needs really dusty light coats, almost as if you're not putting paint on. Matt can go frosty with most brands of varnish if applied too heavily.
So really keep a low pressure and a bit more of a distance perhaps for the matt.
I would stay at about 17-20 psi for the gloss coats.
Very nice video! Mate, I've followed for almost a year already and I'm glad to see you got sponsorized, keep it up!
BTW, the song that starts around minute 26 is part of Interstellar's BSO, am i right?
Hi Carlos ! I'm not sure about the song, I use epedemic sound so it's from their catalogue. I'm not sponsored per se, but I have now a good relationship with Dominomodel.be .
Great review 👍 I wonder if you can use Mr color levelling thinners to thin the paint? Also, the best Flat varnish I have tried is Windsor and Newton UV Matt varnish mixed 50/50 with Ultimate (UMP) Thinners. I only use this now, thanks to the review by Gennesis Models . Subscribed!👍
Thanks ! I dont think MLT would work well with this paint being a true (not resin based) acrylic.
Winsor and newton varnishes are fantastic I completely agree, they were my go to before I tried the VMS Matt and Satins.
What is the consistency of the paint out of the bottle compared to vallejo? I'm looking for a replacement for a Model Masters color that I'll be using to brush on.
Depending on the pigment, medium to thick. I find them easier to spray than brush although many people have great success brush painting them.
Hi James a couple of years ago I did a review of Mission Models Paint for Military Modelling Magazine I must say your review here backs up everything I found and further. One problem I did encounter was with the Poly additive, after about 3 months it had set solid in the bottle. I was wondering if you had any such issues at all. Excellent review and well demonstrated.
Hi Gaz, the poly additive seems to be a bit of a mystery.
I have 2 bottles, Both a year old and both purchased within a few months of each other.
One is "turning" the other is fine.
One thing I do find is with some pigments it is trickier to get a complete mix. Sometimes you'll see little microbeads of poly in the paint. And this can lead to a spluttery mess. ( this is on the bottle that is on the way out)
I havent kept them in the fridge and my workroom gets very warm with our English summers.
Perhaps the issue surfaces quicker when the poly encounters extreme cold during transit?
I appreciate the kind words as well as you reaching out .
Many thanks mate
James
@@lpjmodels Thank you for your quick response James as soon as I can get to a show I'll pick up another bottle and give it another go. Although saying that I manage to get good results with just the thinner. Thanks again.
Very nice review. I would like to switch to MMPaints from Vallejo but I keep returning to them because MMP range is quite poor so far...
Thanks ! The range is expanding and new colours are being added all the time. I do mix a lot of colours but this is usually for variation or if a colour is not available, it's not very often I use something straight out of the bottle!
Why are you wanting to move away from Vallejo? Just curious.
I have checked the website from domino and I do believe they are fine paints, however what should I do with my modelcolor, tamiya, vallejo, andrea collection? There are so many reviews about paint that once you select one and it does the job why change? Your video’s are great by the way! Thanks for that!
Thanks Gerry ! If you run out of a colour give it a go. I know there are so many brands on the market and if you have a stash of colours this can make things tricky, I have a lot of brands lurking about on my bench and some now dont get used anymore unless I need a lot of colour for a diorama or something. Anyway thanks for your feedback !
Great review. I have been wanting to try them. Would you happen to know if there is a color chart comparison? Like equivalent colors to tamiya for example.
Theres a great app on android ( maybe apple I dont know) called the hobby colour converter. This has a lot of the main brands and if a colour doesnt match you can change the degree of accuracy and get as close as you need.
LPJ Models I use Model Color from the Apple store, it’s just a fantastic app
One problem I’m having with my MMP paint is find it very easily reactivated and completely dissolved with water. I have run into this problem while using Ak pencils or using hairspray chipping. I contacted MMP they advised I’m doing something to loose adhesion like spraying to far away or at too low of pressure. I don’t believe this is the case as I went with MMP paint because I couldn’t achieve those things with other paints with out spiderwebbing it all over the model. Curious if you have any thoughts or similar experience.
Hi Casey ! Are you sealing them ? They can be agitated with water unless you use a higher ratio of poly in the mix, if you don't use poly I would clear coat the previous layers.
LPJ Models thanks for the help! I had not been sealing them and not using a high rate of poly. I guess I incorrectly assumed since they were so durable against everything else what shouldn’t hurt them. I ordered some the W&N matte varnish I see so many people using so I hope that’s helps.
la vidéo est géniale
I was wondering if you have ever tried to use Tamyia X20A thinner with mission model paints.
Hi Rob, the tamiya thinner is alcohol based so I don't think it would work. Might gum it up.
@@lpjmodels Hmm, so they are not acrylic? I guess I need to get some more paint info? Kind of like coke and 7-up are water based but different binding agents
@@inmybox2023 hi Rob, the tamiya acrylics are an Alcohol based acrylic laquer, that's why they don't layer very well when brush painting. Its exactly like the cola conundrum, same with oils and enamels. The pigments are both suspended in an oil, but ones an alkyd based drying oil ( enamel ) and the other is linseed or sunflower vegetable oil. Those however have a bit more thinner compatibility.
Is it ok for me to use Mr hobby levelling thinner with these paints?
No they don't mix well with it
@@lpjmodels ok thanks I'll get the mission models one
>says he will add 2 drops of thinner
>adds 6
better overthinned than underthinned!
Just wondering if the paint is usable with MLT? I tried using Vallejo colours and was thoroughly disappointed with them, so I'm looking to replace my RLM range.
It is not.
@@pglx68 ah, 'tis a shame
MLT? (sorry, I'm a noob)
@@spencernorcross5370 No worries. It's Mr. Color Levelling Thinner
@@ThrowawayModeller thanks. good to know so I don't try and use them together.
Finaly for sale at domino’s Belgium 🙏(Tim van vooren)
Just don't use water to weather over it. Brushes right off.
In most cases the paint seem to be really too thick, too many oversprayed paint spitted around (29:53, turret ring). Metalizer paints pigment is very grainy, isn't even close to the unbeatable smoothness of Gunze SM paints.
Hi James, good review. Found this interesting and have been considering Mission Models paints for a while now as I have only ever used Tamiya. I do like the Tamiya paints and yes need thining before air brushing but a fresh bottle mixed straight away has a shelf life of, well, forever almost. One reason for Tamiya is that it's readily available locally but will check out M M paints online. Tamiya can be susceptible to knocks, scuffs and scratches if you're not careful before you get a good couple of clear coats on.
As for clear coats, I use off the shelf matt, satin and gloss from DIY stores as I haven't have much success with Tamiya or any other protective coat in the model paint range.
After watching your recent Takom 1/16 Panzer 1 build I have subed to your channel and MM paints may be a contender for the 1/16 Tiger (still waiting for it to arrive). I have a couple of kits to do before so will get a bottle or two and have a go and a practice and will let you know. All in all, looks good. 👍🏻
Thanks Rob ! Tamiya paints were my go to in the past but I kept getting texture which was a pain.
I think most paints, even the airbrush ready ones need some tweaking as not every set up is the same. I found myself needing to thin model air and ammo before and they are "airbrush ready".
It's all part of the process, it would be worth trying MM out, when applied correctly they are very tough! Thanks for the comment !