Crown of tempest does the same but also buffs your super and you get it back on every arc ability or arc weapon kill without having to rely on ionic traces. It also looks a million times better
@@hatchell18 it does not give you the cooldown reduction with arc weapon kills, only if the target is jolted. Also Crown Of Tempest buffs only 1 super if I'm not mistaken, so if you use the other one (that lightning laser, I don't remember how it's called) Fallen Sunstar is way better. Crown of Tempest is more like an ad clear exotic.
shadebinder main here, if you use grim harvest or whatever it's called to make shards on frozen enemies instead of ice flare bolts you can pair it with two grenade kickstarts, a charged up, an elemental charge mod, and a stacks on stacks mod to get close to the old turret build. Also with whisper of rime you can heal off of those shards and get an overshield constantly.
Lorely got majorly nerfed, I’d put synthoceps on it for increased damage, just stand in the sunspots you make for restoration, it’s just a better build overall generally.
It's situational but Phoenix cradle paired with ember benevolence since the buff is super fast abilities return, allies gain restore 1x @ 25secs. A warlock can also pair their enhanced heal nade (restore 2x) to sunspots for the WHOLE TEAM,, resetting the timer each time they reenter the sunspot. Titan and warlock using ember benevolence will get all ability returns in 8secs thru sunspots n nades
@@natcoo8153 so what you’re saying is essentially infinite regen for the whole team, amazing idea, I’ve thought about ways to use phoenix cradle, but never like that. 10/10
I feel like Caliban's Hand would've been a much better fit for solar hunter, it causing easy ignitions would've made easy amounts of firesprites which feed into grenade cooldown, causing an addicting loop of ability spam
I once tried to wipe during the Caital boss fight in Duality while I had Lorelei on. I literally couldn't die even with nearly every enemy in the room shooting at me
I think whisper of shards is pretty useless on a shadebinder since the frozen targets don't count as stasis crystals. Unless you specifically use something like verglas to make them.
Correct. This has been a thing since Stasis was introduced, yet so many Osmiomancy builds I see still use Whisper of Shards despite not using headstone weapons nor Verglas.
As a hunter main, the solar and arc builds shown are quite bad, young ahamkara spine and calibans hand are so much better for solar considering restoration and cure exist and these exotics allow you to nuke entire rooms if you really just want be invisible that much ,use void gryfalcons since the invis will actually be useful. Assassin's cowl arc hunter is also miles more efficient than liars handshake considering that most things will die due to combination blow x3 anyway and you get invis for reviving teamates on top of the healing.
Truer words have only been spoken few times, my friend. Hunter main here, and I totally agree on this. Even though I don't really use solar that much because I find arc assasin's cowl to be better & funnier, if I'm going to be using solar, Caliban's hand is my way to go. Healing nades plus nuking entire rooms with knives is just too fun to pass out
personally i like an osteo striga poison build with necrotics for warlock its great for wiping ads and can do pretty good damage to champs and other types of powerful enemies
Love the video, but I do wish you organized em into separate sections for Titan, Warlock, and Hunter, respectively to make it a lil easier so ya didn't have to jump to each charater for each subclass at a time 😅
I would recommend not to use the Thread of Warding with this Titan build. One of Abeyant Leap effects is that you get Woven Mail when you suspend an enemy (see the description at 15:26). I'm using this build myself and have Woven Mail up almost all the time. I use Thread of Isolation or Thread of Wisdom instead. Maybe Thread of Propagation next season to get Unraveling Rounds, but thats dependant on the Artifact Perks
Personally I find a strand suspend build more viable for end game content. Simply don't do enough damage compared to other add clearing builds whereas a good suspend build can crowd control entire rooms and give your team great survivability. Most of your boss damage comes from mag dumping power and special weapons anyway
I know not everyone has the availability to get a gun from the duality but the smg from there is a no brained for me I have feeding frenzy repulsive brace I think that’s the role I get volitile kill someone and get a overahield and the final perk on it gives you faster reload it’s like funnelweb just with less ammo in the mag and a slower fire rate
Quick add up to the hunter void build, use a void weapon with repulsor brace, it makes it so all your kills also gives you an overshield. combined with the invis and devour it makes you unkillable
On the void hunter build, Hero Burdens submachine gun is really good with feeding frenzy and destabilizing rounds. Destabilizing rounds cause surrounding enemies to be volitile. Which fuels the build even more. It is a crazy difference. It's from Iron Banner, which is here this week!
@@freed2519 I had no idea it could be built like that. with those two perks you don't even have to be on void and you can still get volatile/shielding. that's bonkers
I made a Pseudo Sun Bracers build for fun and it surprisingly works really well. Just throw your grenades at a group of enemies to get your melee back thanks to momentum transfer. This way, you get your melee back and still have a good dodge ability.
@@BDupp2well jokes on you cus he was obviously playing warlock in the video and everyone is bound to trust his words over yours since you know he knows what he’s talking about and your just some guy
Im someone who mains behemoth and i gotta say that cadmus lancecap is probably the worst exotic for it. I usually run hoarfrost to spam ice. I use rally barricades, glacier grenades, the aspects howl of the storm and tectonic harvest. The fragments i use are whisper of chains, hunger, rime and shards. I usually also use cerberus to destroy the crystals easier so i can get overshields and health from rime and get grenade energy from shards.
Some of these are definitely not "the BEST" build for each subclass but still pretty good. Sunstar and arc soul out does geomags by a longshot. Throw on cold heart and you have one of the strongest high end builds in the game.
for lorely id reccomend 2 utility kickstart mods so when you do get low on health, you get a boost of ur barricade back so u get it quicker, in case its needed
If you can get your hands on an Age Old Bond with Repulsor Brace and Destabilizing Rounds, it's great for void builds but the Hunter build with Gyrfalcon and that gun is just *chef's kiss*
Great video! Everyone is all about the gyrfalcons, but honestly, I've got an orpheus rig build that will literally get my teether back while there's still a tether on the field. It's insane. I pair that with the osteo submachine gun and bro, mayhem ensues. So fun
It may be fun to use your build, but Gyrfalchon's dominance in high-end content is just incredibly noticeable. I've always liked to use void for hard content, and I have never felt so safe and powerful since I use Gyrfalchon's with my void pulse with repulsor brace. I'm still looking for my god-roll Duality smg, but the pulse rifle does the work
Well, sure, being able to stay invisible is a huge plus for survival, but dangit, that 3 - 6 seconds between tethers is just so fun. Agreed, void is way better suited for that high end content regardless if your running the rigs or gyrfalcons.
@@jedinova67 another really interesting build is with Omnioculus. I was recharging my ult in 3 minutes or less, and being invisible all the time with reistance ×4 is huge. But it doesn't really clear as well as gyrfalchon's. Maybe if I used a weapon with destabilizing rounds it would've cleaned better, so I'll test it out and I'll let you know. But certainly a fun build overall
Crown of Tempests or Fallen Sunstar for Arclock, and Weaver’s Trance for Warlock are better. Weaver’s trance bursts are even effected by Death Throes from Thrall Butt Helmet, and it can DEMOLISH a room with one shot. I use quicksilver storm or Taraxippos to quickly kill a red bar, and the resulting chain of high damage suspending explosions leaves everything add tier dead, and everything not completely unable to fight back. Then a quick tap with a power weapon or fusion rifles cleans up what’s left.
this video to me is just a reminder of what subclass builds i should be using, cause while i have fun with the phantom fister build back before it became popular in season of the plunder, liar's does in fact give better results (especially when it comes to dmg)
For the Stasis Hunter build two exotic weapons that pair perfectly with it are the Aegis Scepter (wich i use for boss fights to melt them down using the catalyst) and the Stasis Bow makes 1 crystal up to 5 at a time with each arrow kill (and sometimes shatter kills its a bit inconsitent with that) making you able to grenade mobs all the time while doing good damage
For the Arcstider melee build, a recommendation for a weapon is none other than Monte Carlo for melee energy, more damage off of melee kills, and practically no reloading. Since you're gonna be punching everything.
Osmiomamcy have extreme value without the turrets. The ice flare bolts from the grenade itself give half your grenade back for every enemy frozen. You can infinitely freeze a target by hitting the enemy with the grenade directly, then the freeze will give you a full grenade back.
for PvE assassin's cowl is goated on arc and stasis, I'd say better than liar's handshake or frostee5. It's also pretty good on strand but it's just barely kept from being pretty much an upgrade to cyrtarachne's facade by one weird quirk which is that your melee just gets lost while you're invisible, so you can't catch it for the extra energy. On solar it's still good but you can definitely do better, and on void it's more or less just a downgrade from gyrfalcon's hauberk.
Young ahamkaras spine > Assassin's Cowl for Solar Hunter and Assassin's Cowl > Liars Handshake for arc hunter. Fun fact, liars handshakes 200% damage buff drops down to 80% when paired w/ One-Two Punch. And since Assassin's Cowl has better healing and overal survivability its clear which option you should stick with in any type of content Like Gms, Raids and dungeons
Little extra for the stasis and strand hunter (At this point it’s basically being said everywhere I go fo builds) but if you happen to have Radian Dance Machines you have infinite dodges so long as you keep getting kills. With this in mind you have unlimited melees with stasis and so many more suspends with strand. Mactics and Plunder have builds regarding this in greater detail, but your builds are also effective in what you want to achieve (that being quick duskfield grenades or plenty of suspends. Don’t take this as me dissing your content, this video is very helpful for people who are returning or are making progress and are looking for good build templates!
for strand, if you mean ensnaring slam, it takes the radiant dance machine buff away after you use it, if you meant something else than sorry for my stupidness
@@andreisebastianmihailescu8021 nah, you right. I finally got it just the other day and found out the hard way during a spire run that the buff it gives doesn’t work with the suspend aspect unfortunately. But still really effective in most if not all melee abilities because of gamblers dodge, though it may not be as effective as the class specific exotic (ex: Ahamkara spine for solar trip mine grenade builds, Gyrfalcons or Omnioculous for void builds, and finally it’s pretty much useless in arc builds as long as the punch and roll build exists with liars handshake or assassins cowl builds). Despite those specific builds it is and could be very versatile, but specific builds will (maybe/ most likely) be more effective than RDM builds { I am not a pro by any means, I have a little over 500 hours so more experienced players probably have more experience and gameplay knowledge than I do to make my judgement irrelevant. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what you use, as long as you have fun with it that’s what matters} ((Final note, sorry for probable misspellings of exotic names or any of the sort, this is just me typing this on my phone, and I’m just to lazy to search it up to be accurate))
Thanks for the most part I was able to pivot into "DO THE MAIN THING" if I was lacking an Exotic. or like my statis titan meh, I don't need one if I have another on rotations. Great info!
Definitely a very interesting set of builds, solar titan build was kinda outdated since lorely got a pretty big nerf so syntho is still best, for void armenumtarium and hoil is best (hoil just requires more mods to get it working but still is good) but no back up plans is definitely really interesting and probably pretty damn good and arc i mean wouldnt fallen sunstar just be better in general and alsopretty sure you can still swap exotics so just run hoil with pulse grenade and your good than switch to curaiss so yes, hoil never actually died
People say fallen saunstar should be here but I disagree. First I would like to mention that a higher api alternative would be crown of tempests. Second it is only usefully in situations where you are actively taking arc damage, so either against fallen, or some specific enemies from other races. Although it is my favorite build for warlock, so much so that I use it as my base build for gm's, sunbracers have the variability that arc warlock does not. Edit: this is just being compared to all warlock builds, not solely arc. If in such case, it does infact beat geomags by leaps and bounds.
For arc hunter assassins cowl is better than liars handshake in my opinion. Invisibility is one of, if not THE best defensive tool in the game. And once you have combination blow stacked, the melee damage compared to liars handshake is very close. Plus, assassins cowl is a full hp heal on kill where as liars handshake is a partial hp heal on hit. Just my opinion, fun video. :)
Idk about that hunter sol build since this would only work for normal dif game activities, anything in master and above and even in dungeons you might not get the kill since of the high hp some mobs have, it only works for normal game modes dont except this to work on high end activities
I have a sentinel build that is centered around grenades. Melee kills give nade energy, void ability kills make targets explode, and grenades weaken enemies. Pair this with any spa method and it melts
Assassin’s Cowl for Hunter, Heart of Inmost Light for Titan, and Fallen Sunstar for Warlock are far superior builds (outside of Master/GMs, but if you’re watching this video, you’re probably not too concerned about Master/GM content). For Hunter, the constant melee approach works with Cowl, for Titan, ability spam and ionic traces give you better ability regen (plus, melee kills activate HOIL even if uncharged), and for Warlock… well, let’s just say it’s ability regen on steroids. Granted, you want the right mods and seasonal mods for it, but in my experience, Arc doesn’t benefit from its super as much as it does from the pure chaos of unlimited ability regen and stomping ads into the ground. Under the right context, you can always switch to the exotics that boost super damage, but consistent use is better than occasional use.
Swarmers strand warlock with rocket hits 3m rn in most activities with a well and g horn active. No div no tractor. Making it s tier (in my opinion) for DPS.
On titan loreley is overkill and is not needed 99% of the time. Synthoceps would be my recommendation. Loreley is only really needed when doing a day 1 raid or solo dungeon maybe. You coukd also use precious scars, hollowfire heart, hoil, or phoenix cradle. On hunter for solar id run Young Ahamkaras spine or radiant dance machines. And then assassins cowl for arc. Liars handshake is also really good though. Arc titan id use armamentarium, point contact cannon, eternal warrior, or possibly hoil before just using cuirass. If cuirass did something on topmof buffing tcrash damage then sure but it doesn't. So its more of a swap to exotic. Arc warlock fallen sunstar or crown of tempest is the way to go. With Crown of tempest you can still use chaos reach but you get so much ability regen ots great but fallen sunstar is better. Void warlock i actually really like nothing manacles. I do think contraverse with vortex nades is better i just prefer nothing manacles or the pocket nova magnetic grenade contravese build. Stasis titan. Stasis titan kinda sucks but hoarfrost is good or hoil is okay. Cadmus ridge lancecap is kinda trash. Stasis hunter renewal grasps are being slept on but frostees are alright. Bakris on the other hand is really good.
Solar Titan : Loreley has been nerfed and it's not even an interesting exotic to use anymore since in every content that the build is interesting (Dungeon/Raids/GM), the heal output is nowhere near enough to not be outgunned. And running the bonk hammer is fun 5 min but is way too dangerous otherwise. It's good as an emergency tool but that's about it. Solar Hunter : Interesting Idea to use Cowl on Solar instead of Arc. It does give you the opportunity to get 3 kills instead of 1 so you get higher chance to go invis. It's not a bad choice by any mean but I think we do have more interesting options. Solar Warlock : Do we even have anything solar based outside of Sunbracers, now that Starfire Protocol has been buried? Also, wasn't it bug with no extended grenade effect? And why using the snap which require you to be close, instead of the celestial fire which has longer range? Arc Hunter : Of course, you used Cowl on Solar so your "only" option was Liar's Handshake. Barely more damage for far more danger. As much as it's "fun" to deal damage with, most of your burst damage will be eaten by the jolt. Also a reminded that 1-2P has been heavily nerfed when used with Liar's. Not with Cowl. Arc Titan : How original, Falling Star. Yeah it's good. Does it require a build? Absolutely not. It's the equivalent of SES for Hunter though even this one require orbs to work better. Falling Star is literally, equip > Super > Profit. But as fun as it is, it has the same issue. Either the super is overkill or not doing enough for you. Of course it's enough to kill raid bosses, it would be the same for SES Hunters if Gathering Storm would Stack. or BB. It's a burst dps build. Arc Warlock : Seriously? Geomag? The exotic that no one use anymore because it has zero interest as the super itself isn't even that good? Fallen Sunstar will be a much better option overall with uptime on everything. Void Titan : NBP? As much as I'm struggling to find an interesting exotic for a Void Titan, NBP is not in my list. It locks you into a Shotgun usage which cannot always be a good thing. Something with more versatility would be more interesting like Second Chances maybe. Void Hunter : Yeah, Gyrfalcon, impossible to argue. For weapons to pair with : Wavesplitter which will also get boosted when getting orbs of power, Collective Obligation, letting you absorb the debuffs and can be used with Suppressor grenades (the only suppression effect CO can take since Tether isn't technically suppression) Void Warlock : Choices are either Contraverse or Nezarec. Sorry but Contraverse won't cut it at higher level. It's powerful for sure but the overall utility of Nezarec boosting every abilty with void Kills (including those with abilities) is not negligible. Also Contraverse force you to use Chaos Accelerant. Any exotic that force you to something is to take with a pinch of salt. Stasis Titan : No. Cadmus is not a good exotic. It barely improve the Diamond Lance that already no one I'm aware of is using. You're also heavily focusing the build on shatter damage which is pitiful on higher difficulty. While Titan doesn't have much Stasis focused exotic, I would still prefer Hoarfrost Z to make a much bigger barricade and provide crystal to use. Stasis Hunter : Frostees is one of the two exotic I consider for a Stasis Hunter, the other one being Radiant Dance Machine. My only issue with Frostees is having to run around like an idiot to get the buff going. RDM can prolong its effect by getting kills after getting the buff started. Stasis Warlock : Yep, Osmiomancy Gloves Stasis CC, no surprise. But no, Whispers of Shards is not a good idea since it only work on CRYSTAL breaks, and enemies do not count in there. It's sad but there is no point running Shards, unless you use a SPECIFIC weapon for it, like either a Headstone weapon or Verglas Curve. Since I tend to run Ager Scepter instead (for the instant freeze effect), I prefer to use super energy on enemy shatter. Strand Titan : No surprise because no other exotic come close to be interesting. It's good, that's for sure. Strand Hunter : 6th Coyote was my option as well, using the clone as decoy. Considering our only Strand options aren't really good for PvE anyway. Strand Warlock : After seeing the Verity's Brow build, I'll be taking it off my list because it's not that interesting. Being forced to a weapon type and specific perks to make the build shine is too much. And if you compare it to Nezarec, remember that Nezarec works with ANY void kills, not just weapon. Maybe Necrotic with Striga or Swarmers for the build. Also, testing builds in low end activities?. I think half the footage was done on either patrol, Lost sectors or low end Nightfall. That's not showing a build work. Even places like dungeons aren't very that scary outside "MAYBE" The Ghost final area? And even then it was a VERY short clip. The only place with some decent respect is the Strand Titan was the Corrupted nightfall on higher difficulty. Not GM, but higher.
As a warlock main your arc warlock build hurts me. Chaos reach is definitely the best arc super for warlock however it's not really worth spec-ing into your better off spec-ing into fallen sunstar and ionic trances, because you can have constant up time for your abilities allowing you to become an add clearing god
Could you make a build to enhance the lucky pants/crimson combo cause its my go too nightfall loadout for melting bosses, and i feel like it has more potential but im not good enough at making builds to do it. any subclass works for me, love the content keep up the great work man!
For solar hunter young ahamkara spine is better (yes for pve). For stasis hunter there's a new RDM build that melts. and I can't believe you didn't choose it for arc hunter but assassin's cowl is a wayyy more powerful pair
For the shadebinder build, you’re wasting a fragment slot by using whisper of shards. That buff only happens when you destroy a stasis crystal, not an enemy.
The warlock threadling build is good but the suspend build with weavers trance and the wanderer aspects alongside necrotic grips and osteo striga is way better
Im gonna be honest with you bro as a die hard titan main the best endgame build you can use right now is armamentarium with double shackle nades. Its WAY more versatile than ab-leap is dont get me wrong the woven mail is good but there are way too many spots where drenger's last is completely useless
They can go invis on any subclass with Assassin's Cowl. But that exotic is exceptional with melee Arcstrider, due to how much melee dmg you deal. As a Hunter main I found the Solar and Arc builds suggested in this video to not be as good as they can be.
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Thank you! I was hoping he had posted specific class builds but I guess not! You saved me some playback time!!
Thanks bro
I just made an absolutely broken add clear build for strand titan. It's soooo good but also really dumb.
Thanks for this..the dude making the video should have done this from get go
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Fallen sunstar arc soul warlock blows geomag out the water
That’s my favorite build. Not great for endgame but endgame will always be solar for a warlock anyway.
@michaelmanley81 I used it in grandmasters and it slaps.
I’ve been running sunstar and vesper in gms and it’s been doing wonders
Likes the others said, Arc slaps GMs this season. Big ups to the Seasonal Artifact
Tempest is also pretty underrated as well. I always say, Tempest for solo, Sunstar for Fireteam
I would have put the Fallen Sunstar Warlock build over the Geomags one, its way more effective with higher ability uptime
Crown of tempest does the same but also buffs your super and you get it back on every arc ability or arc weapon kill without having to rely on ionic traces. It also looks a million times better
@@hatchell18 it does not give you the cooldown reduction with arc weapon kills, only if the target is jolted. Also Crown Of Tempest buffs only 1 super if I'm not mistaken, so if you use the other one (that lightning laser, I don't remember how it's called) Fallen Sunstar is way better. Crown of Tempest is more like an ad clear exotic.
@@giovanninunes3838it extents the Stormtracer but gives super energy to unleash Chaos Reach so it's a good all rounder
@@ChadWarwick0 Wait Crown of Tempests gives super energy for Chaos Reach?
This comment didn't age well xD
shadebinder main here, if you use grim harvest or whatever it's called to make shards on frozen enemies instead of ice flare bolts you can pair it with two grenade kickstarts, a charged up, an elemental charge mod, and a stacks on stacks mod to get close to the old turret build. Also with whisper of rime you can heal off of those shards and get an overshield constantly.
A shadebinder main that doesn't even know the aspects names... Sure thing buddy lol
@@S2condHeartbeatyou think I as a main hunter know the names of the aspects? Yeah, keep dreaming buddy
@@venatorgd5099 ok buddy
@@S2condHeartbeati main hunter and dont know any of the aspects by name. Im sure many do but most people just look up builds and use them.
Thanks for this i screenshotted. I'm a hunter main and am getting my warlock up@@venatorgd5099
Good only one observation.
In the stasis warlock, whisper of shards is useless unless you use a headstone weapon or an exotic that can do crystals.
I use the same arc build for hunter but I found it works better with Assassin’s Cowl. Infinite invis as well
Assassin's Cowl is top tier on arc/solar/stasis (and not bad on strand). Definitely my most used exotic because of that versatility and survivability
It's the best pick because liars handshake doesn't stack with 1 2 punch, so if you have a 1 2 punch shotty then 100% use cowl
@@reinacraneo since when does 1-2 punch not stack with Liar's Handshake?
@@juhaojanpaait does but you only gain like 10% over Assassin so its just not worth it unless you need that smal extra
@@jackthelin5175 ah okay. I don't have a good roll on the Cowl so it's nice that both are good
Fun fact: you don't need the diamond lance aspect for lancecap to function.
Lorely got majorly nerfed, I’d put synthoceps on it for increased damage, just stand in the sunspots you make for restoration, it’s just a better build overall generally.
Use tractor with that and you can deal ~100k damage per throwing hammer in the right situation
It's situational but Phoenix cradle paired with ember benevolence since the buff is super fast abilities return, allies gain restore 1x @ 25secs. A warlock can also pair their enhanced heal nade (restore 2x) to sunspots for the WHOLE TEAM,, resetting the timer each time they reenter the sunspot.
Titan and warlock using ember benevolence will get all ability returns in 8secs thru sunspots n nades
@@natcoo8153 so what you’re saying is essentially infinite regen for the whole team, amazing idea, I’ve thought about ways to use phoenix cradle, but never like that. 10/10
@@TheOGCoocl and restore 2x non stop as the warlock spams it at allies
I feel like Caliban's Hand would've been a much better fit for solar hunter, it causing easy ignitions would've made easy amounts of firesprites which feed into grenade cooldown, causing an addicting loop of ability spam
Nah ahamkara for me 🤷♂️ but both are amazing for when you just wanna 1 tap with ability’s a lot 😂
@@Blacklungs-Sanji That's also a very viable option, honestly either is very good but the one he presented really caught me off guard
I use Caliban's hand with my solar hunter build. Never actually realised that Ember of Mercy grants restoration!!! Might have to rejig my build.
@@nuffseb9299the restoration is the main reason to use Mercy🤦
I once tried to wipe during the Caital boss fight in Duality while I had Lorelei on. I literally couldn't die even with nearly every enemy in the room shooting at me
That's when u just have to jump off the nearest ledge. Been there. It's kinda funny. Good option for some1 super good at dying
Arc Titan should use HoIL instead. You can still get 100% uptime with Pulse Grenades and Thrusters
I think whisper of shards is pretty useless on a shadebinder since the frozen targets don't count as stasis crystals. Unless you specifically use something like verglas to make them.
Correct. This has been a thing since Stasis was introduced, yet so many Osmiomancy builds I see still use Whisper of Shards despite not using headstone weapons nor Verglas.
@@SunSun-sk4si Wasn't 100% sure of it cause I rarely remember what they change and what they don't, but thank you for confirming it!
As a hunter main, the solar and arc builds shown are quite bad, young ahamkara spine and calibans hand are so much better for solar considering restoration and cure exist and these exotics allow you to nuke entire rooms if you really just want be invisible that much ,use void gryfalcons since the invis will actually be useful.
Assassin's cowl arc hunter is also miles more efficient than liars handshake considering that most things will die due to combination blow x3 anyway and you get invis for reviving teamates on top of the healing.
Truer words have only been spoken few times, my friend. Hunter main here, and I totally agree on this. Even though I don't really use solar that much because I find arc assasin's cowl to be better & funnier, if I'm going to be using solar, Caliban's hand is my way to go. Healing nades plus nuking entire rooms with knives is just too fun to pass out
I would suggest a point-contact cannon brace build for arc titan for an ad clear build as it absolutely decimates everything below a full on boss.
That and switch out storm for pulse grenades
@@TheEvilways81 for real. i currently use a PCCB build to ahnialate all the ads that exists
personally i like an osteo striga poison build with necrotics for warlock its great for wiping ads and can do pretty good damage to champs and other types of powerful enemies
Love the video, but I do wish you organized em into separate sections for Titan, Warlock, and Hunter, respectively to make it a lil easier so ya didn't have to jump to each charater for each subclass at a time 😅
I would recommend not to use the Thread of Warding with this Titan build. One of Abeyant Leap effects is that you get Woven Mail when you suspend an enemy (see the description at 15:26). I'm using this build myself and have Woven Mail up almost all the time. I use Thread of Isolation or Thread of Wisdom instead. Maybe Thread of Propagation next season to get Unraveling Rounds, but thats dependant on the Artifact Perks
Personally I find a strand suspend build more viable for end game content. Simply don't do enough damage compared to other add clearing builds whereas a good suspend build can crowd control entire rooms and give your team great survivability. Most of your boss damage comes from mag dumping power and special weapons anyway
I know not everyone has the availability to get a gun from the duality but the smg from there is a no brained for me I have feeding frenzy repulsive brace I think that’s the role I get volitile kill someone and get a overahield and the final perk on it gives you faster reload it’s like funnelweb just with less ammo in the mag and a slower fire rate
Quick add up to the hunter void build, use a void weapon with repulsor brace, it makes it so all your kills also gives you an overshield. combined with the invis and devour it makes you unkillable
If you run Phoenix dive with the heat rises you can get restoration 2x and can be extended
On the void hunter build, Hero Burdens submachine gun is really good with feeding frenzy and destabilizing rounds. Destabilizing rounds cause surrounding enemies to be volitile. Which fuels the build even more. It is a crazy difference. It's from Iron Banner, which is here this week!
or you could craft an age old bond and add repulsor brace on TOP of destabilising
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@@freed2519 I had no idea it could be built like that. with those two perks you don't even have to be on void and you can still get volatile/shielding. that's bonkers
@@freed2519 da hell?! I did not know that was a thing. Wut he said. Do that.
No the god roll trials SMG (SHAYURA'S WRATH Submachine Gun
Season of the Risen Season 16, Year 5) or GTFO
Pairing legend of acrius and NBP for titan is something i did not think about lol
I made a Pseudo Sun Bracers build for fun and it surprisingly works really well. Just throw your grenades at a group of enemies to get your melee back thanks to momentum transfer. This way, you get your melee back and still have a good dodge ability.
I would say that caliban's hand is better for hunter because of the absolutely nuclear proximity knives you get
Or Young Ahamkhara's spine for grenade spam.
@@phantasmalflight3896I felt the same but ahamkaras provides very little survivability compared to calibans because u can then run healing grenade
POV: you’ve never played warlock before
Bro it’s his opinion you’re allowed to disagree without telling him
@@mrbluefyre87 I’m also allowed to tell him I disagree
@@BDupp2well jokes on you cus he was obviously playing warlock in the video and everyone is bound to trust his words over yours since you know he knows what he’s talking about and your just some guy
Im someone who mains behemoth and i gotta say that cadmus lancecap is probably the worst exotic for it. I usually run hoarfrost to spam ice.
I use rally barricades, glacier grenades, the aspects howl of the storm and tectonic harvest. The fragments i use are whisper of chains, hunger, rime and shards. I usually also use cerberus to destroy the crystals easier so i can get overshields and health from rime and get grenade energy from shards.
Surely one of the exotics used is Radiant Dance Machines, right?
Some of these are definitely not "the BEST" build for each subclass but still pretty good. Sunstar and arc soul out does geomags by a longshot. Throw on cold heart and you have one of the strongest high end builds in the game.
Really enjoyed this video 👏
for lorely id reccomend 2 utility kickstart mods so when you do get low on health, you get a boost of ur barricade back so u get it quicker, in case its needed
If you can get your hands on an Age Old Bond with Repulsor Brace and Destabilizing Rounds, it's great for void builds but the Hunter build with Gyrfalcon and that gun is just *chef's kiss*
Great video! Everyone is all about the gyrfalcons, but honestly, I've got an orpheus rig build that will literally get my teether back while there's still a tether on the field. It's insane. I pair that with the osteo submachine gun and bro, mayhem ensues. So fun
It may be fun to use your build, but Gyrfalchon's dominance in high-end content is just incredibly noticeable. I've always liked to use void for hard content, and I have never felt so safe and powerful since I use Gyrfalchon's with my void pulse with repulsor brace. I'm still looking for my god-roll Duality smg, but the pulse rifle does the work
Well, sure, being able to stay invisible is a huge plus for survival, but dangit, that 3 - 6 seconds between tethers is just so fun. Agreed, void is way better suited for that high end content regardless if your running the rigs or gyrfalcons.
@@jedinova67 another really interesting build is with Omnioculus. I was recharging my ult in 3 minutes or less, and being invisible all the time with reistance ×4 is huge. But it doesn't really clear as well as gyrfalchon's. Maybe if I used a weapon with destabilizing rounds it would've cleaned better, so I'll test it out and I'll let you know. But certainly a fun build overall
Yeah, my first attempt at making a solid void build was with omniocculus. From what I remembered it was pretty legit. But also super fun
Zou don't need Diamond Lance to create Lances with the Cap. Makes it more flexible.
dude love the builds, but where are the dim links
Crown of Tempests or Fallen Sunstar for Arclock, and Weaver’s Trance for Warlock are better. Weaver’s trance bursts are even effected by Death Throes from Thrall Butt Helmet, and it can DEMOLISH a room with one shot. I use quicksilver storm or Taraxippos to quickly kill a red bar, and the resulting chain of high damage suspending explosions leaves everything add tier dead, and everything not completely unable to fight back. Then a quick tap with a power weapon or fusion rifles cleans up what’s left.
this video to me is just a reminder of what subclass builds i should be using, cause while i have fun with the phantom fister build back before it became popular in season of the plunder, liar's does in fact give better results (especially when it comes to dmg)
For the Stasis Hunter build two exotic weapons that pair perfectly with it are the Aegis Scepter (wich i use for boss fights to melt them down using the catalyst) and the Stasis Bow makes 1 crystal up to 5 at a time with each arrow kill (and sometimes shatter kills its a bit inconsitent with that) making you able to grenade mobs all the time while doing good damage
For the Arcstider melee build, a recommendation for a weapon is none other than Monte Carlo for melee energy, more damage off of melee kills, and practically no reloading. Since you're gonna be punching everything.
It’s also really good with Caliban’s Hand. That build is WAY more fun than knife trick spam
The melee regen from Monte Carlo is entirely unnecessary for arcstrider
man seeing them sunbracers makes me miss my warlock days 😔 🙁🥲was good times
Osmiomamcy have extreme value without the turrets. The ice flare bolts from the grenade itself give half your grenade back for every enemy frozen. You can infinitely freeze a target by hitting the enemy with the grenade directly, then the freeze will give you a full grenade back.
for PvE assassin's cowl is goated on arc and stasis, I'd say better than liar's handshake or frostee5.
It's also pretty good on strand but it's just barely kept from being pretty much an upgrade to cyrtarachne's facade by one weird quirk which is that your melee just gets lost while you're invisible, so you can't catch it for the extra energy.
On solar it's still good but you can definitely do better, and on void it's more or less just a downgrade from gyrfalcon's hauberk.
Young ahamkaras spine > Assassin's Cowl for Solar Hunter and Assassin's Cowl > Liars Handshake for arc hunter. Fun fact, liars handshakes 200% damage buff drops down to 80% when paired w/ One-Two Punch. And since Assassin's Cowl has better healing and overal survivability its clear which option you should stick with in any type of content Like Gms, Raids and dungeons
Calibans Hand is also a way better option for Solar Hunter and is way more fun just igniting everything
Little extra for the stasis and strand hunter
(At this point it’s basically being said everywhere I go fo builds) but if you happen to have Radian Dance Machines you have infinite dodges so long as you keep getting kills.
With this in mind you have unlimited melees with stasis and so many more suspends with strand.
Mactics and Plunder have builds regarding this in greater detail, but your builds are also effective in what you want to achieve (that being quick duskfield grenades or plenty of suspends.
Don’t take this as me dissing your content, this video is very helpful for people who are returning or are making progress and are looking for good build templates!
for strand, if you mean ensnaring slam, it takes the radiant dance machine buff away after you use it, if you meant something else than sorry for my stupidness
@@andreisebastianmihailescu8021 nah, you right. I finally got it just the other day and found out the hard way during a spire run that the buff it gives doesn’t work with the suspend aspect unfortunately. But still really effective in most if not all melee abilities because of gamblers dodge, though it may not be as effective as the class specific exotic (ex: Ahamkara spine for solar trip mine grenade builds, Gyrfalcons or Omnioculous for void builds, and finally it’s pretty much useless in arc builds as long as the punch and roll build exists with liars handshake or assassins cowl builds). Despite those specific builds it is and could be very versatile, but specific builds will (maybe/ most likely) be more effective than RDM builds
{ I am not a pro by any means, I have a little over 500 hours so more experienced players probably have more experience and gameplay knowledge than I do to make my judgement irrelevant. At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter what you use, as long as you have fun with it that’s what matters}
((Final note, sorry for probable misspellings of exotic names or any of the sort, this is just me typing this on my phone, and I’m just to lazy to search it up to be accurate))
With stasis warlock you can also throw the coldsnap normally and if it bounces off an enemy you get it refunded.
only partially. more powerful more energy. Champions give full refund
Also refunds energy if the bleak watcher hits an enemy before landing
@@Joseph__Leonard better to put those on elevated positions though, as they can get destroyed
For the melee solar warlock build, I use Monte Carlo to constantly have melee
I had a blast with that on the moon doing altars of sorrow.
Little fun fact that a lot of people don't know, casting your chaos reach in an empowering rift increases it's damage. Probably a bug, but it melts.
Noted
thank you
Came back to destiny recently and this helped thanks!
Thanks for the most part I was able to pivot into "DO THE MAIN THING" if I was lacking an Exotic.
or like my statis titan meh, I don't need one if I have another on rotations. Great info!
Definitely a very interesting set of builds, solar titan build was kinda outdated since lorely got a pretty big nerf so syntho is still best, for void armenumtarium and hoil is best (hoil just requires more mods to get it working but still is good) but no back up plans is definitely really interesting and probably pretty damn good and arc i mean wouldnt fallen sunstar just be better in general and alsopretty sure you can still swap exotics so just run hoil with pulse grenade and your good than switch to curaiss so yes, hoil never actually died
Assassin's Cowl for the Arcstrider melee Hunter build and use Caliban's Hand, instead, for the Solar Hunter.
People say fallen saunstar should be here but I disagree. First I would like to mention that a higher api alternative would be crown of tempests. Second it is only usefully in situations where you are actively taking arc damage, so either against fallen, or some specific enemies from other races. Although it is my favorite build for warlock, so much so that I use it as my base build for gm's, sunbracers have the variability that arc warlock does not.
Edit: this is just being compared to all warlock builds, not solely arc. If in such case, it does infact beat geomags by leaps and bounds.
For arc hunter assassins cowl is better than liars handshake in my opinion. Invisibility is one of, if not THE best defensive tool in the game. And once you have combination blow stacked, the melee damage compared to liars handshake is very close. Plus, assassins cowl is a full hp heal on kill where as liars handshake is a partial hp heal on hit. Just my opinion, fun video. :)
Idk about that hunter sol build since this would only work for normal dif game activities, anything in master and above and even in dungeons you might not get the kill since of the high hp some mobs have, it only works for normal game modes dont except this to work on high end activities
I have a sentinel build that is centered around grenades. Melee kills give nade energy, void ability kills make targets explode, and grenades weaken enemies. Pair this with any spa method and it melts
Assassin’s Cowl for Hunter, Heart of Inmost Light for Titan, and Fallen Sunstar for Warlock are far superior builds (outside of Master/GMs, but if you’re watching this video, you’re probably not too concerned about Master/GM content).
For Hunter, the constant melee approach works with Cowl, for Titan, ability spam and ionic traces give you better ability regen (plus, melee kills activate HOIL even if uncharged), and for Warlock… well, let’s just say it’s ability regen on steroids.
Granted, you want the right mods and seasonal mods for it, but in my experience, Arc doesn’t benefit from its super as much as it does from the pure chaos of unlimited ability regen and stomping ads into the ground.
Under the right context, you can always switch to the exotics that boost super damage, but consistent use is better than occasional use.
How to not build arc titan: A tutorial
What’s the void smg your using all the time?
Swarmers strand warlock with rocket hits 3m rn in most activities with a well and g horn active. No div no tractor. Making it s tier (in my opinion) for DPS.
conduction rime durance and fissures are the fragments i run on shadebinder, that with elemental charge and 2x kickstart means turret spam for days
Thanks Marshix. Quality video as usual! Keep up the great work
Cadmus ridge lancecap mentioned WOOOO
Do you need a void weapon for Void Warlock or any weapon will do?
On titan loreley is overkill and is not needed 99% of the time. Synthoceps would be my recommendation. Loreley is only really needed when doing a day 1 raid or solo dungeon maybe. You coukd also use precious scars, hollowfire heart, hoil, or phoenix cradle.
On hunter for solar id run Young Ahamkaras spine or radiant dance machines. And then assassins cowl for arc. Liars handshake is also really good though.
Arc titan id use armamentarium, point contact cannon, eternal warrior, or possibly hoil before just using cuirass. If cuirass did something on topmof buffing tcrash damage then sure but it doesn't. So its more of a swap to exotic.
Arc warlock fallen sunstar or crown of tempest is the way to go. With Crown of tempest you can still use chaos reach but you get so much ability regen ots great but fallen sunstar is better.
Void warlock i actually really like nothing manacles. I do think contraverse with vortex nades is better i just prefer nothing manacles or the pocket nova magnetic grenade contravese build.
Stasis titan. Stasis titan kinda sucks but hoarfrost is good or hoil is okay. Cadmus ridge lancecap is kinda trash.
Stasis hunter renewal grasps are being slept on but frostees are alright. Bakris on the other hand is really good.
Solar Titan : Loreley has been nerfed and it's not even an interesting exotic to use anymore since in every content that the build is interesting (Dungeon/Raids/GM), the heal output is nowhere near enough to not be outgunned. And running the bonk hammer is fun 5 min but is way too dangerous otherwise. It's good as an emergency tool but that's about it.
Solar Hunter : Interesting Idea to use Cowl on Solar instead of Arc. It does give you the opportunity to get 3 kills instead of 1 so you get higher chance to go invis. It's not a bad choice by any mean but I think we do have more interesting options.
Solar Warlock : Do we even have anything solar based outside of Sunbracers, now that Starfire Protocol has been buried? Also, wasn't it bug with no extended grenade effect? And why using the snap which require you to be close, instead of the celestial fire which has longer range?
Arc Hunter : Of course, you used Cowl on Solar so your "only" option was Liar's Handshake. Barely more damage for far more danger. As much as it's "fun" to deal damage with, most of your burst damage will be eaten by the jolt. Also a reminded that 1-2P has been heavily nerfed when used with Liar's. Not with Cowl.
Arc Titan : How original, Falling Star. Yeah it's good. Does it require a build? Absolutely not. It's the equivalent of SES for Hunter though even this one require orbs to work better. Falling Star is literally, equip > Super > Profit. But as fun as it is, it has the same issue. Either the super is overkill or not doing enough for you. Of course it's enough to kill raid bosses, it would be the same for SES Hunters if Gathering Storm would Stack. or BB. It's a burst dps build.
Arc Warlock : Seriously? Geomag? The exotic that no one use anymore because it has zero interest as the super itself isn't even that good? Fallen Sunstar will be a much better option overall with uptime on everything.
Void Titan : NBP? As much as I'm struggling to find an interesting exotic for a Void Titan, NBP is not in my list. It locks you into a Shotgun usage which cannot always be a good thing. Something with more versatility would be more interesting like Second Chances maybe.
Void Hunter : Yeah, Gyrfalcon, impossible to argue. For weapons to pair with : Wavesplitter which will also get boosted when getting orbs of power, Collective Obligation, letting you absorb the debuffs and can be used with Suppressor grenades (the only suppression effect CO can take since Tether isn't technically suppression)
Void Warlock : Choices are either Contraverse or Nezarec. Sorry but Contraverse won't cut it at higher level. It's powerful for sure but the overall utility of Nezarec boosting every abilty with void Kills (including those with abilities) is not negligible. Also Contraverse force you to use Chaos Accelerant. Any exotic that force you to something is to take with a pinch of salt.
Stasis Titan : No. Cadmus is not a good exotic. It barely improve the Diamond Lance that already no one I'm aware of is using. You're also heavily focusing the build on shatter damage which is pitiful on higher difficulty. While Titan doesn't have much Stasis focused exotic, I would still prefer Hoarfrost Z to make a much bigger barricade and provide crystal to use.
Stasis Hunter : Frostees is one of the two exotic I consider for a Stasis Hunter, the other one being Radiant Dance Machine. My only issue with Frostees is having to run around like an idiot to get the buff going. RDM can prolong its effect by getting kills after getting the buff started.
Stasis Warlock : Yep, Osmiomancy Gloves Stasis CC, no surprise. But no, Whispers of Shards is not a good idea since it only work on CRYSTAL breaks, and enemies do not count in there. It's sad but there is no point running Shards, unless you use a SPECIFIC weapon for it, like either a Headstone weapon or Verglas Curve. Since I tend to run Ager Scepter instead (for the instant freeze effect), I prefer to use super energy on enemy shatter.
Strand Titan : No surprise because no other exotic come close to be interesting. It's good, that's for sure.
Strand Hunter : 6th Coyote was my option as well, using the clone as decoy. Considering our only Strand options aren't really good for PvE anyway.
Strand Warlock : After seeing the Verity's Brow build, I'll be taking it off my list because it's not that interesting. Being forced to a weapon type and specific perks to make the build shine is too much. And if you compare it to Nezarec, remember that Nezarec works with ANY void kills, not just weapon. Maybe Necrotic with Striga or Swarmers for the build.
Also, testing builds in low end activities?. I think half the footage was done on either patrol, Lost sectors or low end Nightfall. That's not showing a build work. Even places like dungeons aren't very that scary outside "MAYBE" The Ghost final area? And even then it was a VERY short clip. The only place with some decent respect is the Strand Titan was the Corrupted nightfall on higher difficulty. Not GM, but higher.
Very nice video, straight to the point for every class, and gives you every bit of information that you need !
Thanks with these crazy builds! So much to try on & so little time!
See, chaos reach us good and all, but stormtrance/riskrunner will always take the cake for me
That stasis hunter build looks fun
Ah frosties…such an underrated exotic. Thanks for putting it in the video!
I used to enjoy frost33z with the solar knife return & multiplier & see how many kills I could get b4 I died or lost the multiplier. Good x's.
Dim links for these Builds? Thank you. Great video.
What is the white and gold shader on riptide when showing lorely splendor
Gonna get back into destiny after a year long break so this vid is a great help, perfect timing 👍
would weighted throwing knife work with the gunslinger build?
Young ahamkaras spine is good for solar hunter with gunpowder gamble, you can chain them almost infinitely
Depending on how good the buff to threadlings are that Strand Warlock build might be nutty for ad clear.
As a warlock main your arc warlock build hurts me.
Chaos reach is definitely the best arc super for warlock however it's not really worth spec-ing into your better off spec-ing into fallen sunstar and ionic trances, because you can have constant up time for your abilities allowing you to become an add clearing god
This was incredibly informative and helpful. A pvp version of this would be amazing
Any chance you can show my the armour build and mods for the warlock void, also artifact mods
Could you make a build to enhance the lucky pants/crimson combo cause its my go too nightfall loadout for melting bosses, and i feel like it has more potential but im not good enough at making builds to do it. any subclass works for me, love the content keep up the great work man!
Should I use arc or void for warlock
if you have your armor builds saved in DIM can you link it so that it's easier to copy
what helmet is he using at 0:14
For solar hunter young ahamkara spine is better (yes for pve).
For stasis hunter there's a new RDM build that melts.
and I can't believe you didn't choose it for arc hunter but assassin's cowl is a wayyy more powerful pair
if on the sun-bracers build you swap your well for phoinx dive you can get infinite cure and restoration X3
Bungie, please nerf Assassins cowl so people can stop suggesting it in builds.
I can't be the only hunter main that feels this way
Young ahamkaras spine is slept on… and doom fang pauldrons
I'm surprised you didn't include the Orpheus Rig/Wish Ender hunter build.
Helpful, thanks!
For void titans HOIL is still the best exotic for ability builds. No backup plans is just used for boss dps. Not actually useful in high end pve
For the shadebinder build, you’re wasting a fragment slot by using whisper of shards. That buff only happens when you destroy a stasis crystal, not an enemy.
The warlock threadling build is good but the suspend build with weavers trance and the wanderer aspects alongside necrotic grips and osteo striga is way better
Im gonna be honest with you bro as a die hard titan main the best endgame build you can use right now is armamentarium with double shackle nades. Its WAY more versatile than ab-leap is dont get me wrong the woven mail is good but there are way too many spots where drenger's last is completely useless
Would you consider a PvP one of these? sometimes wana do checkpoints on other characters but builds on classes i dont play is rough haha
Pulse grenade better then storm now. More damage and on titan you get ionic traces. More nades more damage
Any Dim links?
I really thought hunters can only go invisible wit the void subclass
They can go invis on any subclass with Assassin's Cowl. But that exotic is exceptional with melee Arcstrider, due to how much melee dmg you deal. As a Hunter main I found the Solar and Arc builds suggested in this video to not be as good as they can be.
Very good Video thanks!
Is ist possible that you can do this for PvP?
Try to put that Warlock boots that enhances Threadlings and create Tangles and you're gonna see a master of Threadling causing chaos. It's too fun 😂