Why Drake Gave up On Conscious Rap
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When discussing the career, legacy and future trajectory of Aubrey Graham, you’ll face an uphill battle finding a rapper that’s been as successful & consistent. Where artists such as Eminem and Jay Z are widely celebrated for shifting hip-hop’s commercial boundaries, Drake has found himself with everything a man could want besides the love and support of a genre he’s helped elevate. Instead, his pursuit of chart-topping has meant his status in hip-hop comes with an asterisk beside it.
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Written by: Robert Blair
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if this is Drake sabotaging his career I’d hate to see what boosting looks like 💀
STRAIGHT UP!! 😂😂😂🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
All these dudes use writers!! Check the publishing!! This is stupid!!
@@2philly7venz they don’t you just dosnt understand writer credits
@@2philly7venz how can I check the publishing ??
@@2philly7venz You don’t understand writer credits do you lol
The crazy thing is that Drake has actually written for other artists which puzzled me hearing about him taking submissions of fully written songs.
The even crazier part is Drake trying to hide it. If Drake had just come out from the beginning saying the song was written by someone else but “felt like his own” no one would have thought twice about it being ghost written but I guess then the writers have to be in the spotlight
Drake writes for TONS of artists. Which is so funny why ppl keep saying he can’t write. I think it’s just haters but hey I could be wrong.
Two things can be true it goes both ways creatives bounce ideas off each other just because he wrote songs doesn’t mean he can’t accept song either.
@@donnyx1236 true
@@donnyx1236 yes! But they be tryna make it seem like Drake whole career written by somebody else and every song he do ain’t him. That’s always been weird to me. Drakes biggest song ever is Gods Plan, he wrote that for trippie but he didn’t know what to do w it so Drake just released it on an EP, he wrote for Ye several times. Just weird seeing ppl acting like the man can’t write
He didn’t sabotage his career, he sabotaged his legacy
True
Unfortunately, you're asking these guys to know the difference between the two. And, there's two things most media outlets ostracize: The truth and definitions.
Best comment I've seen on this video
@@tommyscarlet I’m flattered
@@michaelsoares5908 Drake is a legend tho.
He’s in a lane that’s bigger that just being a rapper he’s battling pop stars who literally have hundreds of writers on they staff helping them day in and day out
@@Alphaaple54 Bc POP and Hip Hop are different cultures with different standards
@@anonbeanman7938 Nobody cares. They're pretty the same where Drake's at.
Yes but pop songs need people to dance on them, be radio viable, rap doesn’t. Different genres have different standarts
Writing is the talent in hip hop that. Singing is hard enough by itself so the standard is different rappers dont have to practice notes just write so if you not writing you just talking over a beat? Atleast singers have a talent their throat is the instrument rappers instruments are their pens
But that’s one major difference between Hip Hop and pop music. Fans of real Hip Hop only have respect for those who actually have the skills to write their own music. Hip Hop is too competitive to have ghost writers and think you’ll be respected in the culture.
I think a lot of people are really missing the point of the video, no one is saying can't rap or drake in a failure. The point instead of that Drake has diverted from his early ambitions of becoming the best pound for pound rapper and hip hop artist to instead becoming the biggest artist/pop star and hitmaker. That's the point.
Drake is big as a pop star but he isn't a pop star
Don't get that twisted
@@mrsolodolo33 He literally calls himself a pop star….
But then dont say "sabotage" bc it can be argued that the "pound for pound" artist didnt do nearly as much for rap. Ask a random person if they've ever heard of Pusha T....they respond "Who?" How can you do so much when no one knows you...when musical success is judged on mainstream adoption?
@@kylethomas8655 musical success isn’t purely rated on mainstream adaptation. Flo rida sold more than Tupac life time wise but how many people think Tupac is worse than Flo rida?
@@waynesmith7746 Flo Rida whack 2pac better 😩🚮
Nothing Was The Same is a classic in my eyes
His best album
@@tdotwitz Definitely not his best but it’s definitely a classic. Take Care was obviously number one and it’s a tie between NWTS and IYRTTL at number 2 aside from the 👻 ✍️.
@@stephordless8876
No. NWTS is better than Take care. Even Drake said that's his fav album he ever made
@@puertoricanprince7690 Just because it was Drake’s favorite doesn’t mean that it’s number 1.🤣🤣. Because it’s still not number 1.
@@stephordless8876
It is
Tuscan leather > Any take care track
Wait a minute... the guy that goes aiiiight in hiphop dx is white ?!? 😳😳😳
I thought he would be darker lmao
Ya and the same dude that said “lock” instead of “lok”! No wonder. I’m white but in the culture and know what “LOK” is but this dude?? He should not be doing the voice overs
Thats what i was thinking😂#🇩🇴 Dominicano, 🇨🇺#cubano#🇵🇷#Boricua#AfroLatino
Right? lol
This Murs ,check the video on the 3 lane theory
2013/2014 Drake was at his lyrical peak. That was the greatest version of Drake in my opinion.
The wild part is some of the best songs Q Miller had a hand in
@@ruggerREL uh not on his best songs
Especially when he dropped 0 to 100 that song still goes hard lyrically and beat 🔥💯
Yeah 0-100 and The Catch Up put him on top
@@ruggerREL the wild part is u cappin talkin like you kno wat u talkin bout
Drake in his own lane, the lane which has a mainstream appeal just like Kanye and many others. Everyone is going the same lane now, there are very few artists like Kendrick and Cole who keep their game intact and yet are also successful in the mainstream
Like Kanye ? Ppl like to hate on Kanye
no one knows Kanye's songs
@@pawellukas8202 lmao u god damn lie...he made huge singles thst ppl like drake col kendrick n every rap artist know
The problem with Cole is that all his albums are the same.
@@encouraginglyauthentic43 nigga what!?
Drake is good for the culture. No one realizes it, but he bridges the gap between pop and Hip Hop.
This has been done many times by multiple prior artists...?
Drake is doing that for sure but Kanye was doing that before Drake; Graduation & 808s & Heartbreak are key examples of that
Andre 3k was the og
@@anti-socialprogramming2203Speakerboxx/Love Below, even Stankonia
Loads of artists have done this but Drake has done it the best.
People be saying that they miss the old Drake but Drake has always been making the type of music that he has been making, I mean “Best I Ever Had” was the song that gave him recognition and he wasn’t really rapping on there but it was a melodic song
Yeah it was a melody. But it had soul. It has feeling. You could feel it. You can’t feel his music now. He is detached from his former self. Which is ok. He just gotta rap like he does now because what was once was, is no longer more
@@YardratZ you can't feel lemon pepper, gold roses ? okay mate clean the wax in your ears fr
@@ayandasikithi nope. Can’t feel them. Drake is an amazing rapper. Just not feeling his new stuff. Guess I prefer take care and most things before “if you’re reading this now it’s too late” because for me, his older stuff is just more relatable. I’m glad you still enjoy his music though !
@@YardratZ i hear you but, if you telling me you cant feel Gold Roses, Deep Pockets,Losses or Lemon Pepper than you werent a Drake fan coz to me thats Drake to the core b4 he started doiny any of the pop stuff
@@YardratZ Please go listen to every song on his last few projects. Drake literally makes hella personal and deep songs it's just that they don't get the commercial success that his hits do.
But Drake said he's a POPSTAR.
He’s being sarcastic
@@capalottyslimalini2878 he is a popstar though, there’s nothing wrong with that
He made a song called POPSTAR and was being sarcastic, dude rapped on that song
@@MoMilly96 so what his friend Nicki still raps on her pop songs and the black commmunity still say she pop so guess what Drake is pop too TF.. there nothing wrong with that.. Pop is short for popular and Drake and Nicki are popular stars = Pop Stars
And not a doctor
Drake was exactly good at conscious rapping From to 2006 to 2008 in his early days then he changed his style in 2009
Fax.. 07' Drizzy goated
@@OracleEND FACTS FACTS 💯💯💯💯
👀👀👀👀 seeing this after everything is crazy especially since this is 3 years old
Drake is a better RECORDING artist than most. Songs like The Calm, Successful, and Fear was what made me listen. He had a honesty that was missin in rap. But to me he just got a good voice and knows how to pick hits.
And a nice team of ghost writers 😭😂
You stopped paying attention then.. He took that honest rap to make honest statements about the game like 0/100, 30 for 30, 4pm in Calabasas, is verse on 100 with game and is verse on Big amount with 2 chainz.. Dude never stopped and always told us how fickle some of these so called "rap fans" in America can be.. The industry man.. y'all can't take him down He the GOAT and I pick offense to anything less Respectful and deserving of this man's hard work
@@dereomiebi977 I dont think it is that serious
@@zamirvelazquez4968 Denzel Washington never wrote a word he spoke. If you go read for his part, with the same script, who would get
the part? It’s not about what you say it’s who people wanna hear it from (who delivers it best).
Better recording artist that most! Realz.. got swag, bars, flow, feelers.. but the ish he say don't hit home unless u a middle class or broke mofo tryna get rich.. Gimme some basic life lessons.. This why i miss underground rap... couple bars that slap you across the face like yo mama and make you flip your life upside down.. Drake never did that for me.. Grouch.. living legends 4life!! #mybestteacher
the title says RAP career. not career as a whole. he’s a pop star now
No drake is a rnb artist who uses different genres
@@YoungRiaz you clearly never listened to rnb if you think he rnb
@@gidd I have listened to some
@@gidd but I a grime and hip hop fan I have stuff myself in the old head lane for too long plus I grew up listening to pop music
He’s more a mix of R&B and pop but your point is right. Hip Hop doesn’t respect him at all anymore. Unfortunately, his fanbase of basic white girls the past 5 years aren’t gonna stop him from being commercially successful, even if his credibility is completely gone in rap.
Lil Dicky is not an enemy to hip hop. He’s an enemy to his fans cause we’re still waiting for that second album like clowns
That man rather be a TV star now
Yeah like wtf going on
Bruh so pretty much King Kendrick was the poison that eventually spread to everything. 🙌🏾 I love it
Ok but Kendrick hasn’t put out an album since 2017. And even Travis Scott’s Astroworld was better than DAMN. DAMN was a boring ass album. Dude can’t even come up with a single, put the writers block voodoo on that boy lmfaooooo.
@@lethalspecter when Kendrick drops everybody will listen including you so I don't know why your hating on kendrick
Kam Scott Kendrick is boring af and musically I don’t care for him. He’s a great lyricist but in terms of music he’s just not that good.
@@lethalspecter damn was boring to you but it was the fastest selling album of that year and won him a Pulitzer, I don’t think it’s fair to say “musically he’s not good” with all the acclaim he gets from credible musicians
@@lethalspecter LOOK TRAVIS SCOTT IS A CHILL RAPPER THAT MAKES GOOD MUSIC BUT EVEN HE HIMSELF WOULDNT COMPARE ASTROWORLD TO DAMN BECAUSE DAMN IS MORE SERIOUS THAN HIS ALBUM
The sabotage is saying he isn’t the Hip Hop Golden child that achieves critical acclaim while staying commercially successful as he set out to in the beginning of his career. He over time say that the acclaim wasn’t his way of dominating.
He’s elite in bar status on his own and has ghostwritten for others (that’s why do many songs sound like drake featuring drake. -4am in Dallas) but Being a successful artist numbers wise is higher priority that the recognition from hip hop purists. Through the moves he’s made it wouldn’t seem that he would trade any of his chart topping albums in for a historic classic hip hop album. He knows if he does so he would lose much of his audience. So the best play is to stick to his strength and make hits.
The truth is Drake on his own has never been lyrically weak at any point of his career. I personally believe references tracks were used as a volume play than a lack of creativity play. To make the song creation process quicker he signed artists to give him references to give him something to work with, tweak it and go on to other things.
I think he takes time on his introspective songs like “March 4th” and more lyrical song such as tracks like the “lemon pepper freestyle”. When he gets features I believe he uses references for the sake of productivity. He tweaks them then goes on to other lucrative ventures.
The volume of quality music is his long term play. No one will have more _____ than him. Kendrick can have a greater album(s), Justin can have bigger hits, but no one will have more of both than drake. Drake’s ability to juggling both pop success and hip hop supremacy awards him to be today’s most culturally dominant figure.
Facts
This was incredible. Please explain this to all his bandwagon haters.
Lmao...🤣this is the longest bullshit I've ever read!
...bruh!!😆 Drake makes club music!!!... he's a hit maker now!!!...😁
Don't bring him in the same convo as kendrick...😆 don't get me wrong i have all his albums
He'll always sell records ofcourse...
But hip-hop!?!...nahhh... drake's a popstar nowadays...simple flows on jumpy beats!!!....which is cool...
he's out of hip-hop greats conversation... let's be honest
@@sabrinaamuis8279 well said!! 👏🏾 also on a human level, drake is a brand, with employees. He made himself so big, to sacrifice all that and take food out of people’s mouths who helped him get to where he is only to appease hip hop enthusiasts who would criticize him would be a selfish move. If u wanna look at it like that. But at the same time the point I just made could be argued too. But drake has proven his pen enough. Not gonna be able to make everybody happy when you’re they big
Drake does deserve the moniker “King Midas” simply because everything he touches turns gold. For the past ten years maybe more if Drake was on your track it boosted your notoriety and exposure.
Bro fr! I literally have never seen anyone have a better run than drake aside from Wayne. And I think he even alluded to having the Midas touch in one of his songs 😂 goat fr
@Tererayishe G Mtendereki facts. That wanna know remix in 2016 put me onto Dave.
Bros last 2 albums were doo doo tho
@@-kdot-2332 That's your opinion and respectfully you're entitled to it no matter how wrong it is. His last two albums went certified platinum and stayed in the top five on the Billboards.
@@GodkingHD yeah record sales don't equate to quality my dude
I hope people don't actually believe he wasn't taking care of his kid.
Financially, but I think the “drake not taking care of his kid” thing is more of an emotional thing. Like drake not being there emotionally for his baby and bm is the issue that I had. I don’t doubt he’s sending checks
@@ToeMoss0612 the fact that you take issue with that is just weird 😂 you don’t know the actual Facts are just looking at it from a ignorant view point
Pusha didn't lie on anything he said in the diss. If he did, someone would've exposed it by now. It was clearly stated he didn't take care of his BM or his baby AND he had more dirt. Anybody that believes Drake wasn't being a deadbeat is a diehard dickrider
@@TreyDZd but who really gives a shit... y’all be so worried about a entertainers personal life it’s so weird and lowkey gay 😂😂
@@LetMeEatDem I also talk like this 😂😂
Y’all really care he had a kid that much?
Fr😂 tbh if he really only has one kid then that’s impressive considering his body count
Nah
@@ayandasikithi Who are we his mom? Drake is a grown man who can make public what he chooses to make public. Literally every celebrity lives secret lives, the difference is that most of them aren't as scrutinized as Drake, so often times things that were part of his secret life go public and people lose their minds.
It's the damage to the 'Drake' brand that is the issue. Pusha bodied him and Young Money on Infrared and..... Drake responded with an ok effort. Pusha's next track buried him for:
A. Being ripped off by Baby.
B. He knocked up an ex porn star.
C. And revealed he was either actively hiding or abandoning a child he never wanted in France.
It's not that he had a kid. It's that Pusha told us.
It's not that Drake had a significant other who was an ex-sex worker. Its that he didn't acknowledge it.
It didn't hurt him monetarily. It hurt his authenticity. It hurt his carefully crafted image.
It's amusing how so many people in the comments don't understand or refuse to understand that this is about his hip hop career not his music career.
but who decides that his hip hop career is over? He's still making hip hop tracks
Based on who's definition? By that standard there's very few actual rappers then. Or just accept that "rap" has changed and it's y'all ages that are showing. This isnt 1995 anymore
So is anyone else noticing that hate on Drake keeps growing each year on TH-cam/Twitter.
AS A PRODUCER, I assure you, he did not sabotage his career lol
What have you produced!?
His careers amazing, but it could’ve been so much better without the ghostwriting and disreputable decisions he made. He’s my favorite artist but I constantly see people bashing him.
He already eliminated himself as the greatest rapper since he had ghost written material, even a lil bit. His credibility is gone, we’ll never know how lyrically skilled he really is.
@@akvalues plenty
@@itsjaize nah fam IMO he was never the greatest. Ghostwriting is not such a big deal, plus I’m sure he writes a decent amount of his own lyrics. He still sells the most or holds close to that record.
His lyricism is still top notch. Singing doesn’t make you less lyrical.
I actually met drake at a cheese cake factory in Canada i asked him about Rihanna and he shouted at me i cried all the way home ripped down my degrassi posters and put the vhs's in the bin worse birthday ever true story if you believe it
Roadhouse
Come man. This really happened?
@@IllDawgable dude really... god y’all are so gullible
This is a true story.... I was there that day.
I was there ctoo
@@LetMeEatDem hahahah
he had to change his lane because he was never going to beat Kendrick. we knew it then and we know it now
I think most people still talking bout the ghost writing allegations and all are just dimwits...when meek accused Drake of ghost writing and even called QM the ghost writer...we forgot QM came out to deny it and was jumped by meek mill eh??
Y'all just tripping cause he be doing more than you Favs
Drake all the way
fax
@22歪んだ guessing you have proof of that?
@@az636 you gullible af or clueless if you haven't figured this out. Must be your first day in hiphop. I forgive you.
Quintin admitted to the reference tracks. PND had reference tracks for him as well. This isn't a lie or exaggerated. Drake is a great artist but he has writers. There's a reason they call it the OVO sweat shop.
@@VENGEFULHEXX the fuck are you talking about, I simply mentioned that if he has proof of all these supposed ghostwriters, drake doesn’t use ghostwriters, he’s quite evidently credited Quentin Miller on songs he co-wrote and PND on songs he was on, plus drake has made reference tracks for pnd as well 😭
Good kid maad city should of got best album of the year that was a classic .
Drakes NWTS came out the day before i deployed, and that was my go to album on my IPOD . and "hold on were going home" music video used to play in the DFAC because over seas MTV is actually Music Television. Still to this day that's one of my favorite Drake Albums, i think it aged well.
Who is here after Drake became the first artist in history tp chart #1 and #2 on the Billboard hot 100?
1,2 and 3
Forgot 3
He literally has like only two songs from 2015 that are “ghostwritten” and they’re just ideas. 10 Bands was just a hook lol. And then there’s just the one Rico verse that literally only uses a few bars from Quent that Drake changed majority of. That’s ONE verse out of his 10 plus year career. He been active since 2006. You tryn tell me Drake had a ghostwriter wit him since 2006? And y’all know how Drake was rappin early on. You tryn tell me he been willin to give writing credits up to someone else for 10 plus years? Bullshit.
Where do you get your information from?? So off. That’s just what you know about. And who are you? You some big time investigator? You in the industry or are connected to people it? Oh, maybe you’re the guy that everything in the rap game goes through to even happen. Why are you so sure of yourself and your sources. You type of cats baffle me. You’re so off base.
@@belated5 Man sit ya dumbass down lol. You can literally look up all the reference tracks thas been released and see there’s only 2 official ones. And if you just use your ears and listen, you’ll see everything I’m talkin bout. All I did was state my opinion at the end o the day. I think it’s bullshit for Drake to have a writer for 10+ years cuz who wants to give writing credits to someone else allatime? Chill out yo lol.
@@majestymxnt7384 🤦🏾♂️
@@belated5 Yea take it how you want it nigga lol
Literally the first song I checked on his album he released today he has 5 writers on it.
Why is nobody keeping the same energy for Kanye
Drakes time is coming to an end... But his music will live on for generations.
not coming to an end if he’s still breaking records and going #1 and still maintaining quality
Lol what u talking about?
They say he done but he keep waking up
@@TheBoyJA it just seems like he doesn’t want to do music as much Cant you tell?
I feel like drake is going to put ALL his time into building other artists careers because he has always been good at introducing new blood to the game... That’s why I say his time in the spotlight is coming to an end. I’m sure he still gonna be working around the game for years to come just not at the front of the scene you feel me?
I feel you, good video. Just one thing tho: we can’t act like Drake is the first Top Artist to bite other people’s styles....not gonna shit on anybody by name, but a few of the Legends that had the throne before he did bit just as much as, or more than, Drake. It’s not an indictment solely on Drizzy
Oh you trying to cap on kanye and jay huh
@@wodedagawd9328 it’s not even Ye & Hov, it’s too many to name which is why I ain’t even start the list. But Hov & Ye did, Em admitted to mimicking AZ & then Cage, then there’s Wayne, and 50 straight up admits to it. That’s my point: you can view it as “biting” like everyone wants to, or you can view it like 50 put it: “you work with these new artists & new sounds to maintain relevance & stay hot, but you have to be able to keep yourself hot on your own too, to even be relevant enough for them to work with” all the dudes I just named, plus Drake, can keep themselves hot Dolo. But mfs act like being heavily influenced is a new concept, or growing & developing new sounds as the landscape changes sonically, is all of a sudden an indictment on drake. Literally everybody does it. Everybody considers it biting, I see it as being a talented artist who also makes smart career moves
The whole “biting someone’s flow” narrative is something only haters use. If you want to survive for along time like drake has you have to diversify. It’s not biting a flow when literally so many people over time have used said flow. Just stupid and something haters will always say.
@@LetMeEatDem here you are again defending a man that don't know you 😭
@@gidd and here you are attacking a man that don’t know you 😂😂 I’m just keeping it real 🤧 funny how being a hypocrite works huh?
Well I don’t care cause at the end of the day, Drake is gonna be remembered in 10 years and more for making so many hits and undoubtedly has 3 classics under his belt
He has no classic albums 1 or 2 great songs isn't a classic album
classic songs that is not a classic album , relax .
His one classic album had all the best songs stolen from ‘The Weeknd’
Das a L.
@@smhgaming3259 his first 3 . That’s it
No he has no classics. Hit songs that people use on tik tok don’t count
I like how ppl completely ignore the word "Rap" in the title of the video when discussing it
Self-conscious rap is self-sabotage.
They won’t play that on the radio unfortunately, and it will hurt your pockets.
Drake the goat in this era
Stop lying to yourself
@@ojvic7297 lol you're a clown
@@kofiboakye6173 😂feel so sorry for you bruh😂
@@ojvic7297 feel sorry for yourself 🤣
@@kofiboakye6173 nahh man ...I ain’t the person who thinks someone who steals other people’s art is the best in this era😂
most recent drop had a trendy pop song a regular drake song w baby on it and a female rnb sample beat with rick ross that he rapped for 4 minutes straight on and the small project ended up selling 930k it’s first week. I don’t think he sabotaging his career i think he’s showing how versatile and how far he can push his music that’s why all of his projects have a distinct and different sound Lol
Ye imo N 2 Deep is a very underrated song, I see the first half as the old drake, and then after the beat switch is new drake
How has he sabotages his career , this man literally can’t miss, hip hop madness this the dumbest narrative
He hasn’t missed numbers wise but he’s missed album wise with Scorpion
He got 2 classics in my book being take care NWTS & IYFTITL
Frfr! So dumb
Agreed. Dumb as hell
Every recent drake album there is like 1 song that reminds me how great he can be. But that same album would be filled will filler and trend chasing. Drake is undoubtedly among the greatest if only for how he managed to push hip hop forward in the mid 2010 to become the dominant pop genre in the world. He has enough classics to keep him in that conversation. But he can never be the GOAT.
One of the most successful rappers of all time....definitely. One of the best rappers of all time.....not even close.
Nothing was the same and if you’re reading this it’s too late are both classics. Had the radio play and every song went crazy
Drake is like Kobe or Lebron, no matter what greatness he achieves no matter how many times he proves he the undisputed GOAT, there will always be a faction of people with something negative to say
Give the man his flowers while he’s here
Drake changed hip hop forever
Face doesn't match the voice.
Lol
Right?!!! 😂
I like him better as a pop star but when I found out about the extra help and stealing it didn't feel right
Same im still a huge fan but im not gonna act like it doesn't bother me
@@kabelotshita4510 Everyone does it.
@@thebabbler8867 THERES A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CO WRITING AND GHOST WRITTING.
This know it all content creators on TH-cam are tryinn so hard to undercut drakes success
I don’t see where Drizzy sabotage his career because it ain’t slowed down 😂
I don't know if people are dumb or what in the comments section. Sabotaging was clickbait the geast of the video was about drake being more commercial and less bars and more popish
But every Hardcore drake fan doesn’t fw the commercial songs. Drakes best songs are when he’s rapping. Every Ross track, 5 am in Toronto etc etc Drake still one of the best pure rappers out here rn
@@Colormomey556 it’s true he’s hit or miss these days I thought Scary Hours 2 was good and IYRTITL will always be one of my favorite albums but shit like Toosie Slide🤮
@@Htiy yeah he can have them mainstream songs. But u also gotta remember. His fan base isn’t like the normal rapper. He gotta cater to all ages and demographics. So toosie slide went #1 but not bc his hardcore fans like it bc the tiktok crowd loved it. And that’s apart of his fanbase too. If he had J. Coles or Kendricks fanbase, he wouldn’t make a Toosie Slide bc the fanbase doesn’t demand it. He also has a huge female following so he has to make tons of R&B. He’s a different artist, but when he does rap like NWTS or IYRTITL he one of the best rappers out
And you're wrong bro... he's still breaking records, his own as well...check the billboard bro
Right. The numbers don't lie. People don't understand, all Drake's beefs were fake. The only real beef Drake has is with Kendrick.
Between king kendrick and Grandmaster j.Cole I don't count drake as a Hip hop figure that idea died a long time ago...but he's definitely the pop king of party playlists tho
Nobody gives a fuck about who's the "goat". Its all about numbers, and Drake wins every time.
@@thebabbler8867 lol! Vanilla ice did number....pop smoke did numbers....fuckin 69 did numbers...no it's the actual content that truly matters because that's what lives forever...real hip hop isn't about numbers leave that to the pop charts
@@thebabbler8867 numbers? When you lose your credibility, bite off flows, take word for word lyrics, and call yourself a popstar the numbers go out the window.
@@thebabbler8867 nobody cares about numbers in hip hop it’s about who the greatest Mc.
And yet Drake has won more rap beefs than Kendrick and Cole. Drake been battle tested, they have not. Kendrick the one with songs with Taylor Swift, Sia and Maroon 5. Your whole opinion is a joke
First song I ever heard by Drake, I was about 15 or so and my sister was driving me to school before she went to work. She asked if I had heard this dude named Drake and up til that point, no I didn’t. So she played a song called “Say What’s Real” off of one of his old mixtapes. To this day you can’t tell me he dropped anything harder than that song. Like that song is insanely good to this very day and you cannot change my mind that that’s the hardest shit he’s ever dropped. Very first song I ever heard by him is my absolute favorite song of his ever.
Some people still trash with ghostwriters😭😭😭
Say what you want about the man, most of you have at least one song you like by Drake or that he is featured on throughout the years. He's a presence you can't really ignore. Even if you don't listen to him, you'll hear something with him on it playing while walking outside, in the store, at a birthday party, etc. He might not be a hip hop GOAT but he is definitely having a GOAT run, still as relevant as ever. I was 14 when "Forever" dropped and now I'm 27 and he's still going. Shit crazy.
"Sms triple X, thats the only time i ever shoot below the neck"
u do realiz ehe was talking about sex not xxx look at the context of the bar its not that complecated
If you watch with no sound it looks like the narrator is Rapping when hes shown
The hood doesn’t respect Drake because his bars is simple plus he don’t rap about the struggle. We can’t relate to him but he is a great artist
Im guessing because thats not the person he is, hood rapping is something you can do if you have been in that situation biggie and pac were goated at that because they went through it If Drake went around talking about drugs growing up in the hood noone would take him seriously because that isnt him, and he says that all the time.
@@ajiteshsharma9840 Biggie and Pac were fucking posers; they weren't hood at all. They're just actors. Pac literally was a ballerina before he started rapping dude. 😂 Drake never made the mistake of selling himself as someone he wasn't; that's why he is the GOAT.
‘’Because he’s bars are simple’’ we all know that’s cap 🙄
Why be just the king of hip-hop when you can be a king of the world?
As a day one fan and older millennial, this sums up my feelings accurately. The take on how the beefs play into his route-taking tho, was an angle I hadn’t considered.
i think people fail to realise how meek calling drake out affected quentin miller,
Drake’s career is fine, his Hip Hop legacy is tarnished though
Who gives a fuck about a legacy if you're already a Legend.
Drake is a great artist 1. He’s making the music he wants to make 2. He’s the most successful hip hop artist ever still 3. He took and L and he’s still the top artist on the planet of what ever you said sabotaged his career I can’t imagine what I would look like without all these allegations but .... 🍵 I’ll wait
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"Most successful hip hop artist"
Eminem : understandable, have a great day!
@@ponvishwesh5907 who gives a fuck about eminem. After revival and music to be murdered by, he should just retire for good. I'm tired of woke eminem and his brain dead fans holding onto numbers and titles he received years ago. Give it a rest and let that 50 year old go
@@tiwaanawo816 he can absolutely no drop music and still be on trending. But youre asking "who gives a fuck about eminem". The irony. Literally everybody including people like you who are yelling "who gives a fuck" are also closely watching him. Is eminem gon be like "oh my god! A guy called Bystander on TH-cam says that I should retire!! I think that's the best idea!!"? Nah fam. Sorry. He got no plans to retire. We are braindead for being Eminem fans yet we're catch every single bar that he puts out, and blaming us for holding on numbers and titles? That's the proof that Eminem is still relevant and successful. You can slap the "corny" sticker on anybody and titles and numbers get slapped on you back. If you don't like him, just don't listen to him. It's just simple as that. Consider he's making music for us now. Try something better than that "50 years old" insult. That doesn't work anymore
@@ponvishwesh5907 lol okay "Pon", you ranting on TH-cam also doesn't change the fact that he's a washed up has been. Music to be murdered by sucked and hearing Godzilla for the first time was pure cancer. He managed to say so much, yet nothing at all. I don't hate eminem, but what he is producing is nothing like he used to. Maybe retiring or at least taking another break will do him some good
You can't have ghostwriters if you gave them credit for all of the songs you worked on together (which Drake did). Drake has written HIT records for other artists and got his start in the industry working at writing camps for Dr. Dre - a lot of times artists use reference tracks because they simply don't have the time to sit down and brainstorm ideas.
Artist meaning pop artist not rap artist RAP ARTIST SHOULD HAVE NO REFERENCE TRACKS
@@hexagonoctogon3140 Do you keep that same energy with Kanye West?
@@KIAS1 I do
@@DontfuckwithdaGunslinger420 Good for you.
@@KIAS1 but I still like Kanye more than Drake.
holy shit prothedodge is behind HipHopMadness what the GOAT
I get it, Drake might have gotten to the top but it seems soulless compared to the more introspective non sale out lane Kendrick and Cole is in they have a more organic crowd that sticks with them no matter what, Drake on the other hand have a crowd that’s more into the sound of the moment that don’t really listen to content for depth. However I suppose Drake is still a needed balance in hip hop, because he kinda fills the void when Cole and Kendrick is on a hiatus. Personally I like organic music and I don’t equate a good song or album to numbers or how the masses feel about it.
if this what "sabotage" means then shitttt I need that
I need some mf sabotaging
Seeing this guy talk is like seeing VladTv for the first time 😂😂 no disrespect just putting a face to the voice
Wow I always thought this a was a black guy voice
Ikr
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bro prolly grew up in the hood
nah allways sounded white
edit: meaning, I always thought he was white due to his voice but I dont know what background he has, looking at him. might be white, might be "mixed" might be latin. only he can clear that up for us.
Wait till Drake drops CLB his Career isn’t going anywhere😂 he had the biggest streaming numbers in 2021 even before dropping scary hours
Why y'all act like he ain't drop a tape last year tho lol
@@jonathanhernandez2986 a tape full of already released song sand leaks
This is just a reincarnation of the dynamic between Rakim and Kane, which was then found in Jay-Z and Nas and now Kendrick and Drake. Rap game really just Naruto at the end of the day.
Way off jay did commercial music but he wasnt pop rakim and nas may be more purist but bad comparison
@@rightouskofi7861 : from a mid 2000's king of ny standpoint, yes jay was doing pop. we can look back on it today and say it was purist, but them pharrell songs, big pimpin, all the, features was poppy for the time. even jay admitted he went in a less purist direction.
I agree but drake hasn't done anything like reasonable doubt or blueprint jay is a lyricist that did pop music drake is not a lyricist thats where the comparisons go off Jay and kane are lyricist
@@rightouskofi7861 : you gotta go off the times. there's people who will tell you jay aint touching kane. drake isn't a pure lyricist but he definitely can be when he wants. its more of the image: the popular guy who can rap his ass off but chooses to make mainstream records vs the lyrical ace who sometimes is too purist for his good. drake fits in that first lane with jay and kane even though he not on their level.
But Rakim, Kane, Jay-Z, Nas, and Kendrick are a million times better than Drake
The first hip hop song rapper’s delight was ghost written that dq’s sugar hill gang as goats to though
It wasn't ghost written it was stolen and it wasn't the first hiphop song tf?
@@vigilantstranger6130 no I mean in a mainstream sense and first recorded song in hip hop history
Let's be honest Drake since day 1 was the Pokémon Mr Mime. Or ditto
Ayo its the doge guy LMAO
Screw being the GOAT. Get your money and run. Once your times up, being the GOAT won’t help you.
Drake stole the chorus of my song on chris brown song "No guidance" My song came out 2016 "You got it" look it up on Facebook "Cellus - You got it ft DP" 150,000 views. I love drake but Man i wish i would have got credit sheesh.
Should start uploading to TH-cam
Damn bro
@@bernardobila4336Yeah! ish crazy🤦🏾♂️ aint nothing can be done about it with out money money.
WAIT A MINUTE!? ARE U EVEN SERIOUS!?
@@jameshamilton5947 unfortunately I am smh
Drake is a once in a lifetime talent period
People have tried for so long to take down and cancel Drake and it just hasn't worked. Even before 2013, so many people hated the fact that Wheel chair jimmy was running the game. Becoming the biggest new attraction in Hip--pop despite not being a drug dealer or ex con, born in Compton or Harlem and not claiming to be the hardest nigga ever. People hated that so much. that Drake was just a normal and relatable guy with a shit ton of talent.
Now the focus is on Ghostwriting (as if Nas, Snoop Dogg and Kanye to name a few didn't have ghost writers) whilst trying to forget and discount that Drake is number one because he can also really sing the way most rappers can't, his vocals on tracks are distinctly melodic the way other rappers aren't, he can both rap and flow the way many rappers can't or don't which is why his Ghost writers couldn't turn those songs into hits even if they rapped their own lyrics.
He's been a threat since 2009 and a lot of rappers and people in the hip-pop industry hate that as mentioned by Drake himself on "Emotionless". At the end of the day Kendrick is hailed as Hip-pop's chosen one yet most artists in the industry strive for a Drake feature over a Kendrick one. I still think J. Cole has a better voice for rapping than both of them though.
THEY NOT LIKE US .. well “He not like us “ 🫠
Bro wtf are u talking about ?
Stop playing with Drake bro you embarrassing yourself 😭 this whole video made no sense cause Drake’s career and respect from the hip hop community is far from dead.
Has anyone ever thought about how ppl bite drake?
What are y’all even talking about he sold 3 songs and got counted as album based on streams lol...
If we are being honest Drake is the most unappreciated and underrated artist of our generation 💯😤
What?! He's literally on top of the rap game and has been for years! Rappers like scarface are underrated, Wale is underrated. Drake is a legend and gets his credit, he's literally breaking records and everything he drops goes AT LEAST Platinum, and I think he has like 10 grammies far from underrated 😂
@@ensightanime man I guess he deserves way more😅🤣 in my point of view
Bro u be killings it with the vids
This is why platforms like this don’t speak for the culture. People do not care about drake’s kid and the pusha t diss was good but not able to kill his career. He’s a pop culture icon that dabbles in rap. Fans make it so corny when they do all this
Drake is in the GOATS list. Right after Kanye 🔥🔥🔥
Drake isn’t a G.O.A.T. And Kanye makes great beats and can rap a little. But neither Drake or Kanye have the skills to actually battle any of the elite emcees. And most elite emcees are underground
Also you can’t be a pop singer and be considered a G.O.A.T. You should also study more Hip Hop before you come to that conclusion
Listen to Hip Hop that came out before the 2000’s
When Drake is gone people will finally realize we will never get anyone like Drake ever again...
The GOAT 🐐🔥
Facts x 100 🦉
He's an artist, he can make whatever music he wants and it slaps. goat
Lie again
Dear Lord Jesus, I know that I am a sinner, and I ask for Your forgiveness. I believe You died for my sins and rose from the dead. I turn from my sins and invite You to come into my heart and life. I want to trust and follow You as my Lord and Savior. In Your Name. Amen.
fva
Amen
Amen
My issue with Drake is he sounds caucasian when he talks on interviews... but hes hood when he raps. I never got that 🤔🤷
He speaks intelligent you mean😏
Drake is the goat
Hell nah
This is a man who has 4 FUCKING MANSIONS. He never has to rap, tour, or leave the crib again. So say what you will, I think he won.
You should make a video of the battle between Ice Cube a d Cypress Hill
Skillshare! Drakes number one source for his lyrics.
Drake was never a conscious rapper
0:54: Is this what you looklike? I would never have thought
I consider drake a legend as a mainstream artist but certainly not a hip hop legend and I think if he would’ve just come clean about the ghostwriter rumors he could have still been better accepted in hip hop culture
Loved your video man. Very informational.