@@andys4971 try playing in the middle range. Probably from f to b. It takes more air, but make sure you don't clench. Also, hum a different note than the one that you're fingering. Id recommend between a major 3rd to a perfect fifth above or below the note you are playing. And make sure that you're relaxed in your embouchure and airflow. Strong yet light.
Hey Jeff! I've been watching a lot of your videos and wanted to let you know that your tips are really helpful and inspire me to try out some new stuff on the sax. Keep up the great work!
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! I had to play Snarl by John Mackey in my band and I suck at growling. You have much improved my playing experience. THANK YOU!!!!!!
This is a good tutorial on how to growl. I stumbled upon the way to do it but the difference with mine was that I was also letting air out through the sides of my mouth instead of forcing it all through the horn. Thank you.
I've been playing sax for 5 years and this is kind of off topic but I've managed to have a good tone but I've been seeing things about sax embouchure and ive noticed they want your top teeth touching the mouthpiece and I realized I've always put my upper lip over my top teeth as well as putting my bottom lip over my bottom teeth of course. Is there a right way to do this and am I doing something wrong because I've managed to play like this and improve for the last 5 years and it's strange I'm seeing things like this now. I've never remember hearing from my teachers that I was doing something wrong in terms of embouchure
Anthony Diecidue ..hi, just my two bits worth - hopefully I'm understanding your question - having your top lip slightly under/ curled for top teeth - reckon Jeff will tell you that different strokes for different folks. There's some greats who preferred to curl top lip under top teeth, very slightly, and if you try both, ie curled top lip under teeth, and then teeth resting on top of mouth piece, the sound will be different. Some people can swap depending on the sound they are looking to achieve. I tend to rest the teeth on the mouth piece top, I have tried the curled lip under (top), it's neat sound too. I was having some lip problem after playing/ practicing too long with new reed, so I got bunch of cotton wool and rolled up and put inside my mouth, along the gums, both bottom and top. Wow, turned out fun, and I understood why so many black Americans can play so well perhaps, the fleshier lips surely do help! Ha!
Michele Pippen thanks. I was just wondering if it was wrong playing like that because another guy on TH-cam said the way I was playing in terms of my embouchure was incorrect and my band teacher taught me differently.
That sort of embouchure is just fine and dandy as far as I know. It's more common among double reed players and clarinet players. Stan Getz, Paul Desmond, and Johnny Hodges are some saxophone players that were known to play with a double lipped embouchure. Pretty good club to be in if you ask me.
This is somewhat late, being a month later. The double embochoure is something that I struggled to fix when I got into high school years ago, it's technically acceptable, and I even use it every now and then on gigs to create a softer, subtone, effect on ballades. But unless you're a professional with experience with the "correct" embochoure, like the musiciand mentioned above, using a double style can hold a beginner/intermediate player back drastically in terms of tone and range growth. It's an extremely common 'mistake' amongst beginners that goes unnoticed a lot of the time until you work with a teacher with saxophone or clarinet experience. In closing, I reccomend working to correct your embochoure and after doing so, experiment with the double embochoure and see what works for you either as a permanent embochoure, or situational embochoure.
If that works for you it works. What is important is that you put the pressure on the mouthpiece with your top and sides of mouth but the bottom has to be as loose on the reed as you can, just enough pressure to seal the air. As far as the outside of your mouth is concerned that is what matters. Learning to keep the back of your tongue up is another battle entirely.
Very simple and very clearly explained ! I liked the cow image !! Will try to keep this image in mind next time I try to growl ! I agree that it is not the most appropriate sound for the lower register. MexSax
Trust me, a good neck strap is amazing. I used to use a strap that would make my neck red after playing. It takes some getting used to at first, but after a while, it's a lot better.
I've only watched a few of your videos but they are wonderful. You are a good teacher and an incredible player. Much appreciate your tips and wisdom. Keep it up!
I will have to try this "humming" method. Historically, and I do mean the last 40 years, I've done my "growling" differently.... I actually do a "gargling" which gives me a very raspy rough and ruggard sound, which works well with the old bluesy and rock and roll sax sound.
I've always wanted to growl because I know somebody else who can growl, but he does it differently than from this. I think. I think it's also a really good technique also if you're soloing in the 12 bar blues or whatever you want.
Nice vid again, Jeff.! This one is something easy enough for a beginner like me can understand. Even most of your videos are something sound difficult, but i tried to learn a lot from you!! thanks!!
Hi Jeff, thank you. It helps a lot & I've started to practice the growling piece by piece easily. My question is, 'Growling' does it have (will have) negative impact on our vocal chord (Vocal/Voice)? Just a bit worried. Let me know Thanks Again
Hi Jeff, another Hemke user, please post up your comparison of the Select Jazz to the Hemke after you have tried out a few of the D'Addarios if you would or mention it. I haven't tried the select Jazz yet, but I've been using Java greens with the jazz set up. Thanks..
Ive been playing for over a year alto and now tenor, and I use mouthpiece patches because I have sensitive top teeth and they reduce vibrations. They do mellow the sound though.
OMG This helped me so much... but I am getting a warbling on the low notes any advice?...I have been trying to get a growl now for about a year.... thank you!!!
Luv that scream/growl! Yes, I'm not a saxophonist, but a frustrated keyboard player, who actually plays very authentic sax solos(I can hear you laugh!), yet that growl sound eludes me. Still using the Roland U-20's "FF Sax" (which is quite good), but would prefer using real multisamples, like these of yours. Would you consider sampling 4sec long notes, at intervals of say, every fourth note and selling them, so I can use them on my Roland Fantom X6 sampler? Of course you'll get mentioned when using them!
Hello Jeff Schneider! I was wondering if you could make a video about how to work and develope patterns in one scale... Im not into jazz.... I play electronic music and normally this music just work in one scale... I hope you understand what I mean. , thanks a lot for your straight videos about saxophone lessons!
Im a guitar player and I watch your stuff always as Im a huge Parker fan..did Parker ever use the growl? When I think of the growl I think the Stones Brown Sugar..thankxx!
I use mouthpiece cushions, destroyed my first mouthpiece by biting on it :/ It also helps me to keep the tone consistent, as I tend to shift the position of my mouth more often while playing.
I’ve seen a lot of like saxophone cover videos and I was wondering r they constantly growling? At first I thought it was because they just have a really expensive saxophone
Thanks a lot I have went thought many many videos on how to growl and your video tough me and I will show this to my sax teacher and I will also subscribe and like this video
I accidentally growled once because I like to randomly hum and sing into my sax all the time (mostly to annoy friends but it also sounds cool) and I was like "I'm a genius" and then just continued to growl for the whole day😂
Okay, I can manage a growl for like half a second but I can't sustain it b/c of my vocal cords refusing to keep vibrating... any tips from someone who can do it at least better than I can? lol
I gotta wait until I'm home alone to try this cuz when I do I'm about to sound like a fool yelling into my sax
OMG I’M GONNA DIE 😂😂SAMEE
Chase Lanier this is exactly what I’m doing
Chase Lanier my brother walked in on me...
Took me 2 hours to make my first short growl. Don't give up in the first minutes, time is the key!
*slowly starts screaming in the sax
Sheen Zhou same...
Lol I’m dead now 😂
*Starts coughing becouse I didn't do it right* DA- *COUGH* DAMNIT *Keeps coughing*
Literally what i did
SHEENSHINESUN screams, coughs in saxophone then sneeze
Every time I try to growl, my humming gets cut off as soon as my air flow is strong enough to make a sound. Help?
i guess u can growl now but if not try an easier/beginner mouthpice. Had the same problem
I play Bari and I had to put a ridiculous amount of air behind the hum to growl
@@andys4971 try playing in the middle range. Probably from f to b. It takes more air, but make sure you don't clench. Also, hum a different note than the one that you're fingering. Id recommend between a major 3rd to a perfect fifth above or below the note you are playing. And make sure that you're relaxed in your embouchure and airflow. Strong yet light.
I have the same problem and none of these replies help lol. If you still use this account, have you found it out?
Sammeeee😭😭
Part of me feels like the joke is that I’m making cow noises into my saxophone at 10:30pm at night
Yours truly, the Classical Saxophonist
lol
Great tip, Jeff. Thanks for your time, knowledge and instructions.
Hey Jeff! I've been watching a lot of your videos and wanted to let you know that your tips are really helpful and inspire me to try out some new stuff on the sax. Keep up the great work!
omg Thank you. After all those other videos of teaching me how to growl, this was the only one to properly teach me how to growl.
Bro, wtf this actually works, best sax lesson I’ve had ever.
Excellent class with a lot of technique and joy. Great tips.
I REALLY enjoy your videos because you get RIGHT to the point and TEACH. Yes!
Bro this video helped out so much! I know I am a few years late, but I am finally able to growl! Thanks!
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! I had to play Snarl by John Mackey in my band and I suck at growling. You have much improved my playing experience. THANK YOU!!!!!!
The cow at 0:46 was the best
This is a good tutorial on how to growl. I stumbled upon the way to do it but the difference with mine was that I was also letting air out through the sides of my mouth instead of forcing it all through the horn. Thank you.
I've been playing sax for 5 years and this is kind of off topic but I've managed to have a good tone but I've been seeing things about sax embouchure and ive noticed they want your top teeth touching the mouthpiece and I realized I've always put my upper lip over my top teeth as well as putting my bottom lip over my bottom teeth of course. Is there a right way to do this and am I doing something wrong because I've managed to play like this and improve for the last 5 years and it's strange I'm seeing things like this now. I've never remember hearing from my teachers that I was doing something wrong in terms of embouchure
Anthony Diecidue ..hi, just my two bits worth - hopefully I'm understanding your question - having your top lip slightly under/ curled for top teeth - reckon Jeff will tell you that different strokes for different folks. There's some greats who preferred to curl top lip under top teeth, very slightly, and if you try both, ie curled top lip under teeth, and then teeth resting on top of mouth piece, the sound will be different. Some people can swap depending on the sound they are looking to achieve. I tend to rest the teeth on the mouth piece top, I have tried the curled lip under (top), it's neat sound too. I was having some lip problem after playing/ practicing too long with new reed, so I got bunch of cotton wool and rolled up and put inside my mouth, along the gums, both bottom and top. Wow, turned out fun, and I understood why so many black Americans can play so well perhaps, the fleshier lips surely do help! Ha!
Michele Pippen thanks. I was just wondering if it was wrong playing like that because another guy on TH-cam said the way I was playing in terms of my embouchure was incorrect and my band teacher taught me differently.
That sort of embouchure is just fine and dandy as far as I know. It's more common among double reed players and clarinet players. Stan Getz, Paul Desmond, and Johnny Hodges are some saxophone players that were known to play with a double lipped embouchure. Pretty good club to be in if you ask me.
This is somewhat late, being a month later.
The double embochoure is something that I struggled to fix when I got into high school years ago, it's technically acceptable, and I even use it every now and then on gigs to create a softer, subtone, effect on ballades. But unless you're a professional with experience with the "correct" embochoure, like the musiciand mentioned above, using a double style can hold a beginner/intermediate player back drastically in terms of tone and range growth.
It's an extremely common 'mistake' amongst beginners that goes unnoticed a lot of the time until you work with a teacher with saxophone or clarinet experience.
In closing, I reccomend working to correct your embochoure and after doing so, experiment with the double embochoure and see what works for you either as a permanent embochoure, or situational embochoure.
If that works for you it works. What is important is that you put the pressure on the mouthpiece with your top and sides of mouth but the bottom has to be as loose on the reed as you can, just enough pressure to seal the air. As far as the outside of your mouth is concerned that is what matters. Learning to keep the back of your tongue up is another battle entirely.
Very simple and very clearly explained ! I liked the cow image !! Will try to keep this image in mind next time I try to growl ! I agree that it is not the most appropriate sound for the lower register. MexSax
Trust me, a good neck strap is amazing. I used to use a strap that would make my neck red after playing. It takes some getting used to at first, but after a while, it's a lot better.
0:48 *I'm crying*
Baritone Saxophone you’re like the Justin y of saxophones
I see u everrwhere
@@nou6990 lol
Me too! XD
@@nou6990 Legit dude. Every single video about sax I see, he is in the comment section.
I've only watched a few of your videos but they are wonderful. You are a good teacher and an incredible player. Much appreciate your tips and wisdom. Keep it up!
I'm supposed to be playing Game of War but this one player keeps kicking my ass
Fermentation - XD
The legend 57?
Is it TheLegend27?
The Rumour95?
It's an older meme sir, but it checks out.
I will have to try this "humming" method. Historically, and I do mean the last 40 years, I've done my "growling" differently.... I actually do a "gargling" which gives me a very raspy rough and ruggard sound, which works well with the old bluesy and rock and roll sax sound.
Thanks for the videos Jeff. You have helped my tone and technique. You deserve many more good surprises.
I've always wanted to growl because I know somebody else who can growl, but he does it differently than from this. I think. I think it's also a really good technique also if you're soloing in the 12 bar blues or whatever you want.
Glad it makes sense!
WHY DID I JUAT FIND OUT ABOUT YOU NOW?!?!?! I already can growl pretty well but your other vids are fantastic new sub here!
I actually use the reed case, its super useful for living in the high altitude and dry climate in CO.
Nice vid again, Jeff.!
This one is something easy enough for a beginner like me can understand.
Even most of your videos are something sound difficult, but i tried to learn a lot from you!!
thanks!!
Thx Jeff!
I hope your lesson could help me to increase my skill
Omg I’ve been trying for so long and this video finally helped me
Hi Jeff, thank you. It helps a lot & I've started to practice the growling piece by piece easily.
My question is, 'Growling' does it have (will have) negative impact on our vocal chord (Vocal/Voice)?
Just a bit worried. Let me know
Thanks Again
Damn 4 years and this dude still has no response
@@chrisrse.7458 Ikr
Only if you overuse it and do incorrect technique will it damage your vocal chords
The ad for this was Légére reeds
same for me
Same
you blew me away to the 90's
This video really helped me out! I've been trying to get this kind of sound for quite a while, since my altissimo sounds kind of strange without it.
I have a D'addario mouthpiece. I lIke it quite a bit and they seem popular with the folks in Montreal.
Hi Jeff hope you're doing well thank you for all your tips is been helping me a lot making me play more I thank you happy holidays 🎷🎷🎷🎷🎷
i highly recommend the medium size 3 unfiled select jazz reeds. theyre nice
Hi Jeff, another Hemke user, please post up your comparison of the Select Jazz to the Hemke after you have tried out a few of the D'Addarios if you would or mention it. I haven't tried the select Jazz yet, but I've been using Java greens with the jazz set up. Thanks..
Excelente ¡¡¡,, Jeff, eta tecnica daña las cuerdas vocales??? gracias por tu ayuda,, saludos desde Chile¡¡¡
I use jazz select and they’re pretty good.
Really great tip to growl! Awesome video
Ive been playing for over a year alto and now tenor, and I use mouthpiece patches because I have sensitive top teeth and they reduce vibrations. They do mellow the sound though.
Could you have a video about "SLAP TONGUE" ?
try 3 and a half reeds, it really helps improve tone
Thanks, Jeff!
OMG This helped me so much... but I am getting a warbling on the low notes any advice?...I have been trying to get a growl now for about a year.... thank you!!!
Luv that scream/growl! Yes, I'm not a saxophonist, but a frustrated keyboard player, who actually plays very authentic sax solos(I can hear you laugh!), yet that growl sound eludes me. Still using the Roland U-20's "FF Sax" (which is quite good), but would prefer using real multisamples, like these of yours. Would you consider sampling 4sec long notes, at intervals of say, every fourth note and selling them, so I can use them on my Roland Fantom X6 sampler? Of course you'll get mentioned when using them!
Hemkes are beasts. I use them for my bari sax.
wow!! I can do it only 1 mins. you are great!
Hello Jeff Schneider! I was wondering if you could make a video about how to work and develope patterns in one scale... Im not into jazz.... I play electronic music and normally this music just work in one scale... I hope you understand what I mean. , thanks a lot for your straight videos about saxophone lessons!
omg got this instantly thanks !!!
I GOT IT ON MY FIRST TRY!!!!!
THANK YOU
Thanks Jeff...was having hard time growling
what mouthpiece would you recommend for growling?
hey. You did! nice. Thanks man. Sharing with my students.
not all sax players have an adams apple OAN: that's a really nice shirt...cool vid
DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ADAMS APPLE TO GROWL WHAT
@DarkVoid No, everyone has a Adams apple
@@randomtimesrandomthings9394 yeah but I mean. Men's addams apple helps their case alot more.
@@darkvoid3781 maybe, but idk if it really matters.
Hey Jeff! Could u please talk about Fx efects, like reverb, delays and others, u also use? U rock, man! Hugs from yours brazilian super fan!!!
Baby goat sound (like Uni from the Dungeon & Dragons cartoon) will make it growl super easy, just like when starting out with throat singing.
Im a guitar player and I watch your stuff always as Im a huge Parker fan..did Parker ever use the growl? When I think of the growl I think the Stones Brown Sugar..thankxx!
love your videos...you are the best
Yes! Thanks Jeff!
I can't believe I missed this XD great timing though! Trying this for soloing :D
How long does it take to develop a good growl?
36 years
Legend27 MOTHER OF GOD 😲
Ok, its like 2 years later and it took probably like 6 months idk
what would be a really cool jazz lesson video would be triad pairing
Very nice sir
Finally! :) Thanks a lot Jeff :)
Hi Jeff, any tips for growling on a soprano(the straight one)?
Thanks a lot, Woody Allen.
I play Hemke 3's too. Bit woodier than Jazz Select?
Is that your room mate snooring at 3:17 ??? 😂😂😂
Oh wait, I just finished his video...its his cute pug🤩
I use mouthpiece cushions, destroyed my first mouthpiece by biting on it :/ It also helps me to keep the tone consistent, as I tend to shift the position of my mouth more often while playing.
Thank uuu broo it's working
do you lower the pitch of your humming ? or do you humm/sing the same note as you play??
Can I ask what pillinger mpc you use please? (the link is broken)
Fantastic vids! currently binge watching them!
Can you do comparison of Growl by humming and by tongue rolling?
Nice ligature
I’ve seen a lot of like saxophone cover videos and I was wondering r they constantly growling? At first I thought it was because they just have a really expensive saxophone
The Eb texture by bumble and bumble should suit you better!
I looooooove this video. And you.
I too am a Sax and Pug owner(2 actually).Yes,Pugs are beautiful.
A winning combination, for sure!
gr8 vid thanks
Thanks a lot I have went thought many many videos on how to growl and your video tough me and I will show this to my sax teacher and I will also subscribe and like this video
the cow killed me :D :D :D
i'm playing on selected jazz with my meyer 8m, they are great! they are adding some "zz" to sound :D jaZZ
I accidentally growled once because I like to randomly hum and sing into my sax all the time (mostly to annoy friends but it also sounds cool) and I was like "I'm a genius" and then just continued to growl for the whole day😂
Hmm... Just tried out hemke maybe will stick with those lol
I love growling on the low end of my bari. But I love growling on all my saxes.
Yo...that cool bruh...thanks
How come when I hum while playing a high G a really bad wavy sound comes out instead of a growl (on Alto)
aye them the reeds i use (exept im on tenor and have a hardness of 4)
Mine sounds like fluttertounging instead of a meaty growl. Any advice?
What mouth piece do you use
Can you talk about voicing through a note?
This is how I learned to growl, just hum into the sax while you play, easy
BRUH. As soon as I start humming and then blowing to where a note comes out. My humming goes away!!!! UGGH IM SO CONFOOSED
Should you use a softer reed for starting out?
Johannah Amos I would, it allows you to play with less air so you can get used to it
what number is your new mouthpice?
Do you give lessons
"Moooooo" That cow though
Lol
I have trouble growling on my high notes any help?
How do I stop doing this on accident
Okay, I can manage a growl for like half a second but I can't sustain it b/c of my vocal cords refusing to keep vibrating... any tips from someone who can do it at least better than I can? lol