The cartridge case at about 3 min in looks to be like a possible .17HMR. It's a rimfire cartridge, introduced in the early 2000s and is often used for shooting targets or small animals (think rabbits, foxes or critters of similar size and weight).
I thought it would be for critters and the like being such a small calibre, I'm intrigued as to how a rimfire round works now, will have to have a look, thanks for the insight once again! 👍
@@LostandFoundRelicCollecting Rimfire rounds are pretty simple technology and are among the first metallic cartridges to be designed and put into widespread use. This being so, .22 Short is the oldest metallic cartridge still in production-- it was introduced in the late 1850s-- and variants like .22 Long and .22 Long Rifle were introduced over the following couple of decades. The latter is possibly the most common and widespread cartridge in use, even today. The rims on these cartridges are hollow-- a small amount of primer compound is flowed into the gap in a liquid state and allowed to harden and when the rim is struck by the firing pin or striker of the firearm, it sets off the primer, which in turn sets off the main charge and sends the bullet hurtling down the barrel.
The bullet is pretty interesting, I think they’re called a “Minié Ball” and they were the first advancement in bullets after musket balls. Worth looking up if you have the time!
It could be a Minie bullet or it could be a shotgun slug (though the latter can very much operate like the former and is indeed derived from it). The easiest way to know would be to measure the diameter of the bullet-- a pair of calipers would be ideal though a ruler will also do in a pinch. If it is a rifle bullet, it is probably pre-Great War (the few metallic cartridges in production at that time that might have used a Minie bullet were relics of the 1860s and were no longer made once the war started). If it is a shotgun slug (again, diameter will tell us more) it could be any time from the late 1800s to the past few decades... though it does look like it has been in the ground quite a while. Incidentally, the grooves in the bullet are there to hold some kind of lubricant-- usually some kind of grease or wax (or a mix of both) that helps to ease the passage of the bullet down the barrel of a rifle without leaving smears of lead behind as it goes. This is necessary when one is using lead or lead alloy bullets without a more modern copper jacket. Minie bullets or similar do often possess these grease grooves, but solid based bullets (which lack the characteristic hollow that Minie bullets possess) will also often feature grease grooves too. Lead bullets with smooth sides are typically meant to be used with a paper or fabric patch, or some kind of sabot. If that bullet measures out to anything around .577" (1.4-1.5cm) it almost certainly came from a P1853 Enfield muzzle loading rifle or a Snider Enfield (a conversion of a P1853 to breech loading). These were standard issue to the British Army from 1853 to the late 1860s, though the Sniders remained in service well into the 1870s for artillery and engineers to almost the 1880s. They were also commonly shot in civilian marksmanship competitions during this time-- if you are interested, look into the Volunteer Movement in Great Britain and the influence it had on the development of small arms from the 1860s to the 1890s.
The cartridge case at about 3 min in looks to be like a possible .17HMR. It's a rimfire cartridge, introduced in the early 2000s and is often used for shooting targets or small animals (think rabbits, foxes or critters of similar size and weight).
I thought it would be for critters and the like being such a small calibre, I'm intrigued as to how a rimfire round works now, will have to have a look, thanks for the insight once again! 👍
@@LostandFoundRelicCollecting Rimfire rounds are pretty simple technology and are among the first metallic cartridges to be designed and put into widespread use. This being so, .22 Short is the oldest metallic cartridge still in production-- it was introduced in the late 1850s-- and variants like .22 Long and .22 Long Rifle were introduced over the following couple of decades. The latter is possibly the most common and widespread cartridge in use, even today. The rims on these cartridges are hollow-- a small amount of primer compound is flowed into the gap in a liquid state and allowed to harden and when the rim is struck by the firing pin or striker of the firearm, it sets off the primer, which in turn sets off the main charge and sends the bullet hurtling down the barrel.
The bullet is pretty interesting, I think they’re called a “Minié Ball” and they were the first advancement in bullets after musket balls. Worth looking up if you have the time!
I will do just that, thanks 👍
It could be a Minie bullet or it could be a shotgun slug (though the latter can very much operate like the former and is indeed derived from it). The easiest way to know would be to measure the diameter of the bullet-- a pair of calipers would be ideal though a ruler will also do in a pinch. If it is a rifle bullet, it is probably pre-Great War (the few metallic cartridges in production at that time that might have used a Minie bullet were relics of the 1860s and were no longer made once the war started). If it is a shotgun slug (again, diameter will tell us more) it could be any time from the late 1800s to the past few decades... though it does look like it has been in the ground quite a while.
Incidentally, the grooves in the bullet are there to hold some kind of lubricant-- usually some kind of grease or wax (or a mix of both) that helps to ease the passage of the bullet down the barrel of a rifle without leaving smears of lead behind as it goes. This is necessary when one is using lead or lead alloy bullets without a more modern copper jacket. Minie bullets or similar do often possess these grease grooves, but solid based bullets (which lack the characteristic hollow that Minie bullets possess) will also often feature grease grooves too. Lead bullets with smooth sides are typically meant to be used with a paper or fabric patch, or some kind of sabot.
If that bullet measures out to anything around .577" (1.4-1.5cm) it almost certainly came from a P1853 Enfield muzzle loading rifle or a Snider Enfield (a conversion of a P1853 to breech loading). These were standard issue to the British Army from 1853 to the late 1860s, though the Sniders remained in service well into the 1870s for artillery and engineers to almost the 1880s. They were also commonly shot in civilian marksmanship competitions during this time-- if you are interested, look into the Volunteer Movement in Great Britain and the influence it had on the development of small arms from the 1860s to the 1890s.
@@GEV646just measured with a ruler as I don't have calipers but I get it to 12mm ish 👍