I cant tell you how many times Ive met people who said "I wish I was homeschooled" because I was able to do my own curriculum and do advanced math from a young age.
It's not just that, its learning it in a casual way with no stressful test environment or peer comparison. The experience of just doing the math, shaping your approach to the subject
@@gilgameschvonuruk4982 While this is true to an extent, I think a lot of people are not willing to give up some convenience for the sake of their children. I don't say that as an attack, because we are all so conditioned by our modern context. I just also know some folks who have chosen to live within lower means and be a single income household purely for the sake of their children's education (both in academics and in faith) -- and I think its a discussion a lot of folks should be open to at least exploring in their families.
I'm 18, nearly 19, and grew up on the south side of Chicago my entire life. I've been homeschooled since 1st grade since my parents disliked the public schools around here. Never had enough money for private school. I graduated earlier this year and couldn't be more thankful for being homeschooled
@@danshakuimo Lol there was an Andy Griffith episode where they just let out the one guy in jail because it was Sunday. "Alright be back here Monday morning!" or something like that.
It all depends on the public school. My daughters went to a Bay Area public school (wealthy leftists) and they are fine. During the height of the transgender bathroom issue, one of the school officials brought it up and got shot down pretty quickly. Most liberals/leftists in the Bay Area live conservative lifestyles while promoting liberal ideologies outside of their school districts or neighborhoods. They are all about "as long as it's not in my area".
Yeah this definitely changed in the last couple of years. Transgenders were taught to be treated as a protected class and I was also taught the HIV rates for Homosexuals being higher was just coincidence. At least down in San Diego
@@wild_burn There are "head leftists" and "body leftists". These "heads" are very well-to-do leftists and they live very conservative lifestyles (like Zuckerberg). The "body" leftists are "cannon fodders" or "idiots" like you see rioting. These "body" leftists are similar to mindless zombies. The same principle applies to conservatives. There are many "zombie" conservatives.
@@wild_burn HIV rates for homosexuals being higher is just a coincidence? I press X to doubt. I've been deep in the LGBTQ+ community before, I've seen some dark stuff... I think the HIV rates are actually higher than the CDC says they are.
Will forever maintain that being an atheist in highschool made me a better Christian because I'd read the Bible with the most critical eye and studied it on a much deeper level than anyone else in my family. Because of that I'm much more knowledge on Scripture and church history than most people I meet. It's true what they say "The best Christians are converts" and I somehow managed to get the best of both worlds. Truly he loved me before I knew him.
I think it is an interesting effect that needs scientific study. It seems to me that people who are uneducated but learning something will switch their views when confronted with evidence they are wrong (perhaps you saw some highly convincing philosophical arguments?) and will then continue learning the objections to that new view until they can defend it. It seems to be true in both directions, like for instance the most convincing atheist aren't people like Dawkins but rather people like Ehrman who came from a background of Christianity and believed in a literal interpretation of the Bible becoming Atheist once a literal interpretation was shown objectively wrong.
Thanks for the insights, Zoomer. Over the last decade, I have, as an Orthodox Christian, worked for a public school district, a LCMS Lutheran University, and a Catholic 7-12 private school doing educational IT administration. Over six years working for an urban school district, I saw a lot of good and bad, and let me tell you one thing: just because a school may be run by Christians or run by "secular" governments doesn't necessarily mean much. For instance, at the LCMS university, when I first started and until I left, there was an environment of political leftism that was much more identifiable than at the public school district with an entirely blue school board in a blue state. It's important for parents to consider every educational path that would be viable for their child's success. I've seen a lot of success among homeschooled individuals who were maybe a little ackward, but they tend to grow out of it fast. Sometimes public schools might be the only option financially or reasonably available. It's very important for parents to be present in their child's educational journey, no matter what label the school is associated with, and to try to make the best of what educational resources are available.
As a person who went to public school, I agree. Current public schools are really cesspits (especially schools in the ghettos where I went) and you can get really tempted by the social environment. I unfortunately got tempted and ended up going to a school program in Texas called DAEP (Disciplinary Alternative Education Programs). The environment was 10 times worse than in regular public school. Students there would have some of the vilest things come out of their mouths. Some would break things, kick doors open, attempting escape to "go to the strip club", and jump on desks it was an actual circus. Majority of them were in that place for drugs, assault, home invasion, and other wrongful things and in the most severe cases they would be sent to juvie. I was a sinful kid but even then that made me realize I did not want to go down that path. I matured and changed some of my ways but it wasn't until this year when I found my Christian faith that I looked back on the things I did and the environment I was in and thanked God for making me see the light. While my past was not good, I do not regret it since I experienced what living in the world is like and realized I did not want to partake. Learning about God reinforced that view and on top of that he taught me the ultimate consequence of following the world. Praise the Lord!
I (23M) teach public high school in Texas and I've never met anyone who went through the DAEP and came back in a better place. First was my old middle school bully who got sent there for his MANY transgressions against girls (upskirting, slap ass Friday, the whole nine yards). I've heard only whispers but supposedly he only got more aggressive as time went on. Second was my ex. I haven't kept up with her but she's mentioned wanting to become a stripper (yes, SERIOUSLY). And third was one of my chemistry students. She dropped out within a week of returning. Whereabouts unknown but probably not good. Pray for everyone in the DAEP. They need Jesus and the Holy Spirit more direly than most.
I am a millennial who I went to public school my whole life. I always used to scoff at homeschooling. Now? I feel pretty confident that my hypothetical future kids will be homeschooled. It's not even about Christianity. If school was the same as it was when I went to school, that would be one thing. As a Christian, I think it's actually very good to be exposed to kids of alternative viewpoints and religions. However... I just know that if I had been in school today rather than 20 years ago, I would have absolutely started identifying as non-binary. Probably even a trans man eventually. Who knows what sort of damage I would have done to myself? I was gender confused from age 8 all the way through college (not anymore, thank goodness). And the only reason why I didn't end up doing something I regretted was because this trans nonsense was not in schools yet. And I'm just not willing to risk that sort of thing happening to my kids. Gender confusion is a very common thing for children, and there's no way I'll put a gender confused kid in a position to be exploited by the alphabet brigade if I can help it. EDIT: Because there appears to be some confusion, I am a woman, not a man. :) Also, to the people replying who are upset over some random internet stranger feeling and thinking and living differently to you, you'll be in my prayers.
@@colebacca1369 imagine what this person will say if their child is gay? do you think they will be accepting? I'm queer and regardless of how my parents feel about it I will still be queer. imo the purpose of parenthood is to raise a well adjusted, healthy person, not to pass on a religious doctrine, and a child should be encouraged to explore their identity, including gender. trans people will continue to exist regardless of if they are accepted.
@@violeteyes they will probably love them. I’d love my kid even if he was gay. Shoot I love my brother to death, who IS gay. And no, they should not be encouraged to to “explore their identity” at a young age, that’s preposterous. Kids need firm guidance in the truth, not being pushed to be delusional. Sweet. You continue to exist as a trans person, and we will continue to not accept that identity, sounds like a great compromise. That’s what a lot of people want anyways.
I myself grew up in a private Christian school back in Hong Kong. I went to the same school from kindergarten all the way to high school. Christian schools in Hong Kong have high academic standard. In fact a lot of the best schools in Hong Kong are either Catholic or Protestant. I am now living in the Bay Area, one of the most liberal metros in the US. My daughter will be getting to school age and I am debating if I should send her to a Christian school. Your video is very useful for me. The percentage of my classmates being Christians after graduating is certainly higher than people from public schools. Even for those who don't believe, all of them respect the Christian teachings. Another question would be, how early should we expose our kids to liberal teachings? Should we go with public school all the way, Christian school all the way, or start with a Christian school and switch to a public school when they are older?
Blessings! I’m not a parent but do hear a lot of these conversations at my local church. Familiarize yourself with the curriculuma of the Christian schools in your area and compare it to scripture and also your education you had back home. Pray about it with your spouse and family. I don’t know how else to help you but that’s all I got 😅 Prayers for you all !
I went through both K-3rd grade I went to a private Calvinist school and they made us read the KJV in ye olde English. I noticed when I switched to public school in 4th grade I was so far ahead of the rest of my class. I could do algebra before anybody else and my reading level was insanely high. 6-11th grade was miserable and I went through a lot of the same things that Redeemed Zoomer did. 12th grade I was homeschooled but I had a super cool youth group at this Baptist mega church and it was the first time I made new friends in years (I was a loner most of my life). I loved my youth group friends so much I looked forward to going to church on sundays and Wednesdays
I didn’t think I was that smart compared to the other kids in my class, until a fraction of the kids in my class argued that a butterfly was a bird(might I ad that this was in 10th grade, the school education system has fail us)
I heard that a Catholic nun can teach Spanish way faster than a public school teacher can. I think it's because the Catholic schools are always so harsh and very fast paced, but yeah it is true.
@@charles21137I remember in the mid 2000s I was in 5th grade in public school, and math was really boring to me. That’s because I was pretty good at math, and I wasn’t learning much. Went to private school the next year, and they had me take a placement test. Was immediately put a year ahead in math
From my experience, public school literally threw me in the worst course possible. Their way of handling situations just hurt me more than helped. Maybe not all public schools are bad, but i found it easier going to a Christian school. Besides, i get to learn Greek so thats neat. 👍
I can’t stress enough how important school board elections are. Since most people don’t care about these races, they are very easy to take control of electorally. Even if you don’t send your kids to public schools, you still need to be invested in these races
No system with more Hypocrisy than Democracy. If the results turn out in to be “undesirable”, it could always be changed or ignored. No what matters is public pressure and demonstration. That’s how leftist revolutionaries had their way.
I feel very lucky now, here in Romania (a mainly orthodox country) public schools are very frendly with religion, most of the students are religious, basicly all teachers are religios and it is great, i had a teacher that was so religious she went to church every sunday and friday at the night liturgy, she took lent everytime it sayed to, she was awesome, i also had a history teacher who was so religious, she had a big cross neckles and always talked about how important and beautiful christianity is.
Something similar occurs here in (the western part) of Puerto Rico. Our culture is infused with the Catholic Church and so most people (even Protestants) have a large notion of Catholic holidays and traditions.
in spain catholic religion is mandatory until primary school, then it's optative. in secondary school instead of having philosophy for those who don't go to religion the mfs added a class of doing nothing so people go to there, and in bachillerato (7th and 8th grade for you) you literally go home if you don't go to religion. I love your videos so much. I converted to catholicism thanks to you.
I'm reminded of Ken Ham's comparison to Peter's ministry to the Jews versus Paul's ministry to the Greeks: Christian parents don't properly prepare their children for what the world has to offer, send them out into the "Greek" institutions to preach the Gospel they never really learned, and are then shocked to find that their children come back "Greek" themselves. I went to a Christian middle school and it was easily worse than anything high school had to offer. The curriculum was weak and disciplinary action towards troublemakers was shockingly lax. Public high school definitely gave me a stronger metric to test my own beliefs against just when modern progressivism was really starting to take off.
Man, this hits home, the catholic school I went to for 13 years has completely started do decline academically at a worrying pace, and yes, the problem is inadequate cathechesis in the familial enviroment, also I have seen a declin in the religiousness of adults in the last decade, sad to see.
As a Reformed Christian who attends a private Fundamentalist Christian school, I find it very accurate how Redeemed Zoomer made his impression of the staff at those schools. At those kind of school, everyone is indoctrinated into the theology of the person who owns it. Basically, my school adheres to Fundamentalist Pentecostal theology, and they are all strongly Young Earth Creationist. There really isn't a lot of room for disagreement when it comes to matters of the age of the earth and evolution.
Unfortunately, neither YECs, OECs, nor unbelievers tend to really understand the epistemology of the situation. The point of disagreement is on assumptions that cannot be empirically proven and that must be chosen before any empirical conclusions can be drawn. Miracles, by definition, result in a situation where what appears to have happened if you take the present situation and run the laws of physics backward to a time before the miracle is *not* the same as what actually happened. An unbeliever must be convinced that miracles can occur before any debate on specific miracles (such as creation) is possible. For believers, YEC vs. OEC is strictly a matter of the interpretation of Genesis and must be answered before any scientific interpretation is possible. I'll also note that even in a YEC scenario, processes that have not had time to occur since creation can still be relevant: just because Adam and Eve had not been born the usual way does not mean that on day 7 the specifics of human reproduction were irrelevant to them!
All I know is that I was homeschooled mostly and partly public school, and I will DEFINITELY be homsechooling my own kids if God ever grants us any. It's not just the problem of political and anti-christian indoctrination. It's just the worst model for education imaginable, poor learning environment, moves at the pace of the slowest kid, and your "socialization" is with a bunch of unruly kids that don't respect authority.
I started out in public school until 10th grade, then finished our high school at a Christian private school. Honestly the damage to my mental health from public school was horrible, I hated everyone and everything, I was deeply racist (my public schools were… diverse…) and I was super lonely. Genuinely in the 5 years since graduating high school, I am still friends with my Christian school friends, we even went to college together and are still best friends now. Long story short, I will never send my kids to a public school, those places are Godless cesspools that breed misery and confusion on a degree that’s absolutely mind boggling.
As someone who went to public school for 13 years, I can confirm that yes public schools are very bad! Public schools do produce strong Christians like what Redeemed Zoomer said, and I think it overall is a good experience to be in a public school just to be strong mentally, but yeah. There were so many mean people in public school. Sex ed was basically just saying to use protection and briefly going over the organs without talking about the urges, it barely said anything about abstinence or having self control. There was so much sex at the public schools that I went to, the teachers didn't really teach self control. Public schools are just pools of hormones, revealingness, and impulsiveness. I met a few friends but there but there were so many groomers and abusers. Literally all of the groomers and abusers that I encountered were atheists, and some of the nicest people that I met were Christian!
While I do think homeschooling can be great. Not everyone can homeschool and not everyone should. If you want public schools to be better people shouldnt be running away.
@@wild_burn honestly, I feel like America in general is kinda crappy, regardless of which area you're at, it's just that the South is more chill After I get my Master's in Game Design, I might move to another country
@@kyosuke181 For all of American’s flaws, at the very least it’s not against the law to have the wrong opinion (yet). Though it’s your decision at the of the day, and if you can truly find a better life then go for it.
My first experience with being close to a sexual predator (proximity wise) was my 6th grade female swim teacher, so i always had trouble listening to feminist garbage in public school because i knew how flawed we all are. I think it lead to my faith now
My first encounter with a sexual predator was in 9th grade, I didn't know he was one until the news came out that he went to jail! I think he will be out of jail soon sadly, but yeah he was an atheist and I think very anti-religious. I swear, it's always the groomers who are atheists. I think this all has also helped my faith grow, especially since I've seen how bad the LGBTQ+ super far left liberal atheists can be. Don't trust when people say it's perfectly normal to act on one's urges... it is a huge red flag.
As a person who has always been in a Christian private school, I've been to schools with very high focus on catechizing and education. I have had very good teachers and all the classes aren't just sermons. I don't know if my schools are outliers but I haven't seen a Christian school that teaches the faith but not actually teaching. I know some "Christian" schools that are pretty non-Christian but none with that problem.
To the contrary, I would say even just a few dozen hours of reviewing high quality debates with Christian apologists is a better inoculation against anti-christian argumentation than a dozen years of public school. I think the issues you correctly raise regarding sheltered cradle Christians are to be solved by deliberate study of apologetics, philosophy, deeper theology, and historic dialogue, rather than increasing their daily secular influence. Much respect, RZ, God bless.
I'm getting a degree in education and truly want public schools to succeed. Most people don't have another option and we have to live, drive, and vote among the people public schools educate. Personally, I directly benefited from public school as my parents are poor and not well-educated. Christian parents, being more concerned and involved with their children's growth than many other parents, often raise good students. Well-prepared students and involved, supporting parents are more the cornerstone of education than anything else so it is generally a blessing for teachers and other students to have Christian classmates. The schools also benefit from guidance of decent parents who are often Christian. That said, schools have become intolerable. The quality is in decline, standards falling, students misbehaving with impunity, and teachers and administration unwilling or unable to even slow down the problems. Even under prudent management, the problems of the modern world leaking into schools may be too much. Teachers cannot even discipline students over clear misbehavior without being screamed at by parents. The matter of enabled or encouraged radical students and teachers will only worsen as well. If I were to send my own child to a public school now or in the near future, I would think I'm laying stumbling blocks ahead of them - all for a potentially subpar education.
I wish I was homeschooled. The public schools screwed me up when it comes to math and I have to take the SAT next month and I’m struggling with what should be easy math.
I work in schools supporting teachers to improve practice. I think there's a massive misunderstanding about just how poor teacher training is now, and how much that explains the current situation. You're given crap training, under supported, things get worse, and you get jaded and hopeless. Any ray of hope, however ineffective, becomes like a life saver. And, even when we know better and pilot new means with significantly improved strategies, the degree of institutional resistance (from habit, fear, or apathy from one useless initiative after another) is tremendous. But we are improving in my region. I'm glad I was put in a place to be part of an effective solution. Every day I'm watching capacity build, kids improve, and teachers come to life.
Yes. It is vital for socializing and culturally acclimating any child to the rest of the world. Regardless of belief or faith, if a child is unmoored from their peers and equals, they're going to find themselves isolated and unhappy. School is the easiest, cheapest, most useful and utilitarian safeguard against that.
I'd recommend reading John Taylor Gatto's book Dumbing Us Down, it's an exploration of all the complex and unrecognized ways public school harms children, written by a long time award winning public school teacher who saw it from the inside. Also you should watch God's Not Dead, it's so bad it's absolutely hilarious!
ngl everything this man has said in this vid is so true and im legit experiencing all of what he said in this moment, even when im in england , it still appiles.
As a high school senior (public school) I have absolutely loved high school. My sister (who went to the same school) also loved high school and she now hates college. All this to say not everyone has the same opinions on high school. (Of course in my high school almost everyone says they are Christian. Still lots of degeneracy but less.)
The worst thing school did for me was tell me that masturbation and porn was "healthy" and "normal". Sucked me into a fapping addiction when i was 12 and it SUCKED. Only recently have I converted from agnosticism to baptist Christianity at the age of 15 and I've been doing good since, but Lord please forgive those who got me into that stuff, it always causes me a bit of anxiety that my past will cause me problems finding a wife and such in the future. God bless yall 🙏 ✝️
I was unknowingly somewhat catechised by my parents, believers but not church goers. I visited the dark side and in the last 10 years have been drawn towards the light. Thanks for all your great videos!
As some others that went to public schools from the south have said that it wasn’t that bad at all for me. A lot of the teachers that I had throughout my education went to church every Sunday, were devout,faithful Christians, & you could tell it too. All the Christian teachers were the most beloved & the most personable & by far students who had personal issues would go to those teachers for counsel & advice. I know it differs in the other parts of the country so i guess my opinion on the matter would be 1). If you can afford private Christian school go for it 2). If the current public school(s) you’re child is zoned for aren’t teaching woke anti-Christian & aren’t hiring woke anti-Christian teachers then your kid will be fine more than likely
I went to a public middle school for a brief time. My faith was never challenged, even in science class; my emotional wellbeing was (Though not as much in science class. Good teacher). This was my main concern with sending my (future, theoretical) kids to public school. And when I hear about the mania around public schooling (including from my mom, a newly minted teacher herself), I don't want my kids getting thrown into that. Even my mom, a public school teacher, supports me in this. My mom didn't become a teacher because anything about it was good; I get the feeling it had more to do with making things good, if only a little more. Really, social media was a bigger hurtle for my faith, but it only made me stronger. As for the "it's good because it's Christian" thing, yeah, I get that. It might be safe in some ways but it isn't of good quality. I'd really like more Christian creatives to be able to let loose and make things which are glorifying to God both nominally and effectually.
I grew up attending portland public schools, as well as an Catholic school I got kicked out of. Portland public schools are a joke, but I was surprised that even liberal values were taught at Catholic school. We had a social worker come into my health class and explain that racism does not exist towards white people, that there are infinite genders, etc. A lot of my close friends from Catholic school are as degenerate as my public school friends (not saying I’m holier than thou, I’m degenerate as well). But yeah portland is ridiculous, plenty of public school teachers openly expressing anti Christian opinions.
The wokes have hijacked Catholic schools too. Catholic schools used to be rigorous in education but the quality is decreasing due to the woke crowd coming in after destroying public schools. They cause intellectual rot everywhere they go.
The fact that American schools teach gender theory scares me tbh Here in Greece (strictly Orthodox) we barely had Sex. Ed. and like what we did have is just how the genitals work lmao? Not any gender theory or whatever? History is mostly just giving a non-religious view of the world but we still have the Christian mind-set when talking about history so it's pretty good, and we also have a pretty strict religion class where we got Bible verses and we just study the Christian faith! Meanwhile the kids are just all Christian, although like most of them aren't that "strict" about it if that makes sense? Like they are Christian but don't care much, some of them are not following tranditional values but that's just because they aren't educated or don't care about it, others are pretty Christian and like go to Church and stuff it's a mix but there's no Christian shaming and the people who do that are in the minority
Well, in my public high school in the mountains of Tennessee biology teachers refused to teach macro evolution as a fact, as none of them believed it themselves. Multiple teachers have crosses and verses of scripture on their classroom walls, and religion is frequently talked about with the teachers to the students. We have no sexual education classes, and never have had them in my county. There is also still public prayer before athletic events in certain parts of the region. I guess it just depends on what part of the country you're in.
As someone who was homeschooled till fifth grade, went to a small (non-Christian) charter school in fifth and middle school, did my whole freshman year in a public high school, and now am doing a Classical Christian homeschooling program while attending the high school for choir and sports, I have a unique perspective to bring to this discussion. My childhood was blissful, sheltered, stable, and pure. When I started at the charter school I enjoyed it, though the beginning of my "corruption" did occur that year. 6th was also good, until the pandemic cut off all social interaction. Coming back partway through 7th I was exposed to a lot of horrid, nasty stuff due to kids coming in who had been attending the public middle school. I was depressed, had no true friends, was miserable and learning nothing in most of my classes, and had no solace. 8th grade was essentially the same. When I started high school it began as a breath of fresh air, as I finally had friends again and could do extra curriculars. But the academics were still immensely lacking, and I had my greatest crisis of faith so far-- I brought it to confession multiple times but was just no longer believing in God. He had mercy on me, though, and by Pascha I was holding on and am again secure in my faith. Now being mostly homeschooled, but still going to the high school for choir, it's really the most wholesome alternative for me. I can interact with people of differing beliefs and learn to interact with that respectfully, but I am taking challenging courses and also having conversations with several hardcore evangelical baptist types in the homeschool community. It's encouraged me to continue studying my faith, and try to pray more. Thinking about my future children, I don't want them exposed to the stuff I was as early as middle school, through the students. I would rather carefully instruct them from a faith-based perspective-giving the facts, but not glamorizing any of it. I'd likely homeschool to really focus on education, because the main reason I got by in middle school was having a lot of knowledge and credit I retained from my homeschool days that got me through. Sorry to anyone who reads this that it's essentially an essay. Just wanted to share my experience.
Public Schooling in SoCal is a mixed bag for me. I graduated when the District just stated to put in New Gender theory, and some of the points in CRT were just starting to creep in. The final years of school felt like pulling teeth, and I could confidently say that 50% of what I learned in school has no use in the “real world” I believe public schools are the place we’re tradition goes to die, any “celebration” of different customs is superficial, since it’s the school’s job to create more workers, not scholars or professionals Fortunately I did have few great teachers that encouraged learning outside of school. One of them was my US history teacher who although was a liberal, allowed me to explain my views and didn’t try to silence me. I’ll have the utmost respect for him because of that.
I went to a Lutheran elementary & middle school before going to a public high school. We did have to take some classes at the local middle school. In hindsight, I'm glad my parents sent me to a private over public, mainly because the latter allowed poor behavior that wasn't conducive to learning & imo the education was better & expectations were higher. I'd often score in the top 10% on those standardized state tests. And contrary to what many people today think, we learned all parts of history: the good, the bad, the ugly (slavery, Jim Crow etc, Trail of Tears). They didn't sugar coat it. Also at my high school, I could tell my chemistry teacher was a christian. So many physical fights would break out at the public school though & other misbehavior was tolerated. No accountability. I think most of my classmates at the Lutheran school went on to do well. My sis did have a rebellious stage in high school /college but she found her way back & is now sending her kid to a Christian school. That said, if I grew up in an area that had top-rated public schools, I would consider sending them there if cost was a factor.
Not a Christian but state schooling is generally garbage. The quality and environment are awful even outside inner cities. They serve to advance the interest of the state not to genuinely educate people or teach them how to think for themselves or prepare them to pursue their own goals.
As someone who went to Catholic school for 5 years, there’s two main differences I found in terms of my faith. One is the fact that they were sort of able to hold my faith in check and keep it in order. We did daily prayers, weekly masses, and other stuff. The second is all this opportunity and talks in my religion class really helped me take that step in pursuing my faith and growing in my relationship with God. I switched back to public this year and it gave me that responsibility in keeping my faith in check as it was now my own responsibility to stay close in all terms with God like this is part of his plan he has for me. Bottom line is, you don’t have to but if you think it will help you, definitely give it a shot. Quick note, make sure you find a good Christian school you can trust, cause there are so many Christian schools everywhere driving people away from God.
Religious values are one thing but another very practical disadvantage of going to public schools in the US is just that the quality of the education isn't very good.
I went to a small private Christian(specifically WELS) school in the rural Midwest. I really believe in Christian education particularly for defense of the faith. We had classes talking about other denominations, unbelievers and the defense our faith. We had exellent teachers, I definetly think you should vet christian schools on what they teach and how they teach. The whole landscape of education is begining to change. Montesorri, Classical education, and alternative education methods are becoming popular because there is this slow shift happening.
I want a follow up to this video when you and Mrs. Zoomer have middle-schoolers and then again with high-schoolers. I am a father of 5. We home school but our kids do public school sports. To not consider the cultural and religious impact on your kids when making the decision about school is foolish. Of course you should consider that. Yes the education is also very important but its a whole package. My oldest was in public school up until her first year of middle school. We watched in one year her soft and gentle heart start to get hard and her attitudes shift dramatically. She is now a junior in highschool and thanks us all the time for pulling her out.
I went to a public school in a southern small town. The society around me was generally conservative so it was common to be a "christian." Of course, being in high school all the "christian" people went out and got wasted and kept fornicating with each other. I never got invited to parties because I wasn't in the popular crowd. Though at some point in my time in high school I started engaging with atheist ideas online a lot, and that sent me into a sort of agnostic ideology while still barely clinging on to Christ. I constantly prayed for a sign from God that he was there, but he never gave me a sign. I decided to go to a Church summer camp one year and as I was listening to one of the sermons, it hit me all at once. In an instant, my confusion was wiped away and was replaced with clarity. Then I finally knew who Jesus Christ was. Since then I've been growing in him, and it's not without setbacks. Since I graduated high school and have gone to college, my faith is stronger than ever. It certainly helps when I discuss with the atheists around me and I realize they are extremely theologically illiterate. They hate a religion that they don't even understand. I think that's the most unfortunate thing.
It's kinda wild to see how radically different our high school experiences were. We're not that far apart; I graduated in 2014. Of course, I also went to public school in Texas, so that helps. I became atheist in high school, but I was very much in the minority. I engaged in all kinds of debauchery that makes me cringe to this day; well, really everything about my high school self makes me cringe, but w/e. Even so, there was some of this stuff creeping in back then, but the environment and culture were much more friendly to traditional values, and I had friends who were at peast ostensibly, if not overtly, Christian, and even my most staunchly atheist friends wouldn't disrespect their religion to their face. Vocally disagree, sure, but not socially ostracize them. Probably a matter of social power, given the atheists and leftists were the minority. Had it been the other way around and the atheists and leftists were the majority, we definitely wouldn't have been as respectful toward them. I don't even want to think about how much things have drifted at my public school in the nearly ten years since I left.
Through random circumstances, I find myself back on your videos. Even though this video topic is school, the foundation of any human community has to do with what I wrote on a previous video of yours. These next words are my comment on your video titled "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft" 6:247:27 (on the video "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft") This example helped give me something to work with that I hadn't had the ability to phrase before. I'm starting to feel like the phrase "take back the church", especially in the context of conversation you've chosen is missing something important. For all my life, I have been one of the oddballs in my community, even in churches. As I grew, I wanted to truly understand more, whether it be within me or outside of me. In the mix that life is, it wasn't exactly pleasant to come to the realization that the majority of people I interacted with had little-to-no care for who I am or what I find interesting. This stings, especially, when the people in a church are constantly talking about community, love, wisdom, and responsibility. The truth is that there is a venom hidden within the human condition, no matter what your philosophy is. That venom is superficiality, otherwise known as apathy or laziness. The more I've grown, the more I've become familiar with it. The greatest examples were slightly mentioned in your History of Christianity video, with Jesus' mission being easily misinterpreted by people who wished for him to conquer the very tangible Roman Empire instead of seeing that he was freeing them from the slavery within their hearts; even more so emphasized by the fact that Jesus had come at a time where the Jews were not in literal slavery, but social slavery where they bent and broke their own good potential to bargain their meager impulses from the largest human construction the world had ever known. And after Christ ascended, superficiality was continued by the perceived certainty that the Roman mess was surely the end times, and things like the crusades that were certain in saving a specific piece of tangible earth being a God ordained destiny. The tragedy is the human choice to so clearly abandon the chance of reflecting just a bit more to open up to that truth that God sees INTO you, and does not give you quick answers for your earthly cares. Back to 6:24 (on the video "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft") What strikes me here is not your focus on a general mechanism of retreating, but instead, asking why that is the case. It doesn't take long to peel back what's to blame. It's the same thing I've struggled against my whole life, to see people resign themselves to be blown away by the wind of their comfort zone. People do all sorts of things because they aren't comfortable. Even when people aren't explicitly uncomfortable, something foreign to their experience can be far too confusing to authentically engage in, unless they are the type of person who naturally wants to explore that unknown. The people in your given example had a specific motive in their hearts. Although they had won a vote within that communal body, they were like so many other people in the world, that they didn't wish to exist in something where they might have to make concerted effort to consider what to do. Consideration takes time, and can be uncomfortable, because God has told us that very thing about doing something right in the eyes of God, and how it either turns a house against each other, or catches their attention and rouses curiosity. The people in that church who retreated, in their hearts, were so disgusted by things they found uncomfortable, that they took the easy way out. The church I currently attend has a slightly different version of this apathy, as people sit in their chairs on Sunday, saying what they think is the right thing when they're socially expected to provide feedback, but otherwise sit and stare in their passively comfortable spectacle of rinsing and repeating a reliable schedule. There's potlucks, and cake, and all the fun little activities you can think of, but the clock is ticking and you won't ever find the majority going into longform discussion about God's word while being vulnerable in how God is shaping them through their individual testimony. That's the thing. Vulnerability. Beyond any narrative a person gives behind what they don't like and why they're doing something, the answer is that they're afraid to think of what will happen after they put themselves out in the open of stating who they really are and how they really feel. There isn't even a beginning of a hope to motivate being vulnerable there; even in a simple exchange of words. I use this illustration to show WHY people are running away, instead of just addressing the symptom that "conservatives have a problem of running away"-- actually going into the heart of why the problem exists. In this way, assuming the term "Christian" means "everyone who goes to church has the same understanding and connection with God" limits the ability to see these kinds of problems. I believe that you should move beyond slogans and describe the direction and tools God gave us to know the detail of what things are, why they function in that way, and articulate what the good potential is that we should chase. Here are some thoughts about what I've experienced that have repeatedly emphasized themselves as being from the wisdom of God, beyond any of our mundane thoughts. I'm thankful that the Lord has been letting me reflect on things I've been seeing, like what true kindness means. It's like how the modern world bastardizes the term "love" by trying to make it synonymous with unrelenting acceptance for everything and anything. True care also means that you want someone to avoid harm and negatively impacting others around them. It's the same reason why we want our friends and family to regularly bathe; it's best for their health, it's best for the people around them, and when it's properly understood it shows that they are mature enough to move beyond their impulsively prideful judgements on what they want in the matter. There's a book called Tactics by Greg Koukl: it has been one of the more influential studies in my mind of how to speak with anyone about a belief they hold. The greatest truth within it is something the author doesn't necessarily recognize in an articulated way: the true way to disarm someone and have a truly productive and vulnerable connection with someone is to be kind in having the most authentic curiosity in getting to know what they believe and the reasons they believe it. This also means that with the amazingly complex individuality we all have within The Body of Christ, one person may not be the exact person to help another break through their prideful understandings, but they can help plant a good seed in their minds. That is true kindness, that is true love, and it can be painfully clear in ability to be articulated. This is why, when you kept voicing this idea of retaking the church, but merely saying the abstracted phrases of "retake institutions", "be as bold as them while not being sinful", and "show people how Christianity can improve society" is not enough to illustrate. I felt disappointed that you didn't take time to reveal the grounded tools of how to do that. Answers are abound, just as much as God is present in every moment. One thought I did find right is thinking of the duality of Conservatism and Progressivism, and where that is true within God's plan. What is a true progressive Christianity, if the opposite of that is conservatism that veers towards stagnation? It is truly allowing God's word to pierce and overwhelm the vulnerable truth about who you are, how you've sinned, and the potential of who you can become because of God's love and strength. It's also the fulfillment of reaching out to others in that same sacrifice of personal comfort. What is The Great Commission about? That same kind of vulnerability in getting to know someone and walk with them as Jesus walked with the disciples. Only through that discernment, responsibility, accountability, and loving motivation can anyone hope to make disciples and build a true community. I am still trying to find ways to break through with the people around me. I am forever thanking God that I have found at least one soul who wishes to be in my presence and share these hopes with me. I pray that we can all be more brave in facing these parts of ourselves, bringing our daily worries to God, and also making the bold request that God continually puts his wisdom within our thoughts instead of thinking of 'waiting on the Lord' as a passive state. - So, to conclude, it doesn't matter what school you put your kid in, or what school your parents put YOU in. What matters is whether you succeed in being authentic and vulnerable with other people, as well as be peacemakers in conversation with anyone. Christ did not build the church so that people can passively sit next to one another for 40 years and fail to know the person next to them for all that time. It's not about get-togethers and worship nights. It's about making as deep and meaningful of connections as we can, and YES, that involves having conversations that are conflicting. Romans chapter 14 is clear about how we should speak to one another about things, be certain in our own mind, and find peace in either agreement or acceptance of the difference between people's non-essential beliefs and habits. Verses 22 and 23 state how not having conviction in your heart about a discipline is a sin. THAT'S LITERALLY CALLING SUPERFICIALITY AND WEAKNESS FOR PEER-PRESSURE SEPARATION FROM GOD. A similar topic, but not necessarily about superficiality, is Matthew 18:15-20. That deals with how believers should deal with a fellow believers sin against God's commandments.
1:40 i have a question on this because in my skl it teaches that the church oppressed and reduced the changes in medicine and treaments throughout medival periods. But if its actually false that it isnt the case then this quote rlly is true. (i go to a public skl in uk )
Perhaps you read different books and went to different schools, but never in my education did I get the impression the European colonists were so terrible to the natives of places they colonized because they were Christian I got that impression because the colonists were racist.
It's actually kind of funny, of all my teachers, (at public school btw) the only one to say they're Christian is my CHEMISTRY teacher. And I know students taking his class who say Christianity is anti-science.
I had en encounter with Jesus Christ when covid started. He is coming soon. He died 2000 years ago for our sins and rose again on the third day so we can be made right with God. Jesus: I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life, no man comes unto The Father but thou Me. May God Bless You!
Please stop saying he's coming soon because it's been 2,000 years now and with all the predictions made in the past by people who said to have had "visions" and "encounters" of jesus christ or God and turns out to be wrong and also did you experience an physical/objective encounter with this jesus christ or was more of a fuzzy hallucinogenic kinda of experience
I think that all Christian students should go to a Christian school, especially if it’s operated by their denomination. I’m Catholic and I spent most of my time in Catholic schools. I did go to a public school for a couple years and it was fine, but Catholic schools are way better. I also went to a Catholic high school. No regrets whatsoever going to Catholic schools. I think you get a better education there, especially in this day and age and for the 2 years I went to a public school I’m glad I did it then and not now. I wouldn’t want to do it now and I wouldn’t want my future kids to go there either.
@@jdotoz That’s a shame. Unfortunately not every school is perfect, but some our better than others. I went to a Co Ed High School, which in my opinion is better than an all male or all female school, especially these days.
Considering driving truck for the rest of my life so my wife can homeschool. Voddie Baucham has a good speech/sermon abou the whole subject. It’s your obligation as a Christian to give your child a Christian education.
I'm 16, christian and going to a public school. I don't want anything to do with the degenerate garbage I hear constantly but it's because I have a framework to figure out what degeneracy is in the first place. Ultimately I think it's up to parents to give them that framework and good reasons to believe, and if they have that they should be fine. I definitely agree that we should expose ourselves to opposing views, if I didn't expose myself to atheist talking points I wouldn't know what's wrong with them for example
Great video! My son is going to a christian school right now. He finished kindergarten and is now in the first grade. I definitely think he needs some exposure to the outside world as he gets older, but I want him to learn the foundations of Christianity first. I need to do my part at home also.
I did all forms of schooling. Public, private, homeschool, and some traveling. It helped me expand my perspective and I think out of all of them I preferred traveling. If you can’t do that I suggest homeschooling. My least favorite was probably private school despite being religeous. You can love God and still go to other places!
Tell you my experience which is different on many levels. First, most of my school years were spent in Ukraine till I moved to Spain in 2009. The school was private, just a standard, not Chtistian one. The majority denomination of Ukraine is Orthodox, and we had prists coming talking about religion. I remind you, it wasn't Orthodox Christian or else school. Then for some reasons we were going to local church to kiss icons instead of been studying ethics at Ethics class. Later we had a homeclass teacher/ literature teacher who preached that Orthodoxy is paramount even though we had a Lutheran guy as a classmate. Instead of literature we studied how religion and Bible were important in lives of the writers... God forbid show interest in other religions... We had few Satanists from a year above and she was furious. I am sure she would try to expell them if they weren't in their last year. So I came to school as to some extent liberal Christian, maybe not devoted, but believing in God, end moved to another school at age of 14 as Atheist. I am 29 this month and my Atheist views got even stronger though years. But hey, I am not here to fight. You do you. Sadly, from my experience overexposure and this overpreaching actually makes people go away from God. Maybe I wouldn't be Christian but I would still believe in God, but in the end I am an Atheist. And look, once again, for some reason Atheist don't try to convince or fight others over their worldview. But believers: Christian, Muslim, Jews would fight and quiet often kill over religion. (Another turn-off of religion actually)
I respect your point of view- but a lot of atheists DO in fact try to convince and attack others, mainly on the internet. I can't tell you how many times I've seen one in a comment section randomly harass people with 'God's not real', even if the video has nothing to do with religion. Also I believe Richard Dawkins, a prominent atheist, actively urged his cult to harass and mock religious people in general. Humans, regardless of their worldview, can always find a way to hurt each other. It's not unique to any one group.
I went to a very diverse but good public high school with an IB program. We had a lot of Ethiopian immigrants, so learning about their church was actually pretty cool.
In my health class in 8th grade, the teacher did a true or false game where true was at one wall, and false was at the other wall. So basically you walk over to the side you think is true or false. And the questions were: "A transgender woman is still a woman." If you said false... it was over for you...
As a parent of 3 kids in their 20s, my advice is to actively discuss the fundamentals of your faith with your kids on a daily basis, and to teach your kids critical thinking skills. Do not rely on any school to teach critical thinking, and do not rely upon you church to properly teach the faith. There are some very terrible sunday school and church youth curricula!!! This would be a good topic for a video in the future, Redeemed Zoomer.
Hey Redeemed Zoomer, could you do a video on Mary being a perpetual virgin. I always found this claim to be a bit strange, yet the orthodox, catholics, Lutherans and maybe calvanist hold the view that she remained a virgin throughout her life.
@@wild_burn Those were his stepbrothers, Baptist. Joseph was significantly older than Mary, as attested by the fact he died before even Jesus did, and would have been married before.
i went to public school up until this year. going to catholic school was one of the best choices me and my parents have made. public school isn’t terrible but christian is much better.
You will by God's grace and love. Surround yourself with believers (church, small group, etc.) who support you in your walk with Christ. I survived public school, in my country we dont have the option to be homeschooled
I was homeschooled my entire life, and have never attended a public school and personally even though i dont agree with everything he said i would to a large extent agree with his thoughts on homeschooling for quality. One of the main reasons my mother decided to homeschool us was so that we could all learn at our own paces, i ended up being very ahead in reading and i enjoyed reading a lot and even now (although my mom was really concerned when 8 yr old me would ask for a middle school text book to read for fun lol) and being in a position where i was able to read things that were on my level for school and not be stuck in a curriculum just because of my age was very helpful because i was average in some subjects and ahead in others so even though she let us focus on what interested us she also made sure that we were taught everything and that we knew it from a Christian perspective. I also think that it is important for kids to have some form of catechizing. I didnt grow up with that and even though my church has taught me a lot about the bible i am finding catechisms to be an extremely helpful tool for me as a teenager now, and wish that i grew up with it. So i do disagree with some of his points i definitely enjoyed hearing about this and i definitely agreed with these parts of this video🙂
Redeemed Zoomer, can you make a video on different Bible translations? You are no stranger to controversial subjects. Also, use scaffolding instead of wood!!!!!!!
KJV ESV and NIV good. RSV, NASB, NJKV are fine too. NRSV, NABRE, are ok but have a couple sus stuff. NLT, MSG, and any other "translation" that are just paraphrases are not good. Then there's heretical translations like the jehovas witness and Mormon Bible.
It really just depends on the school and the area, I go to a public school in Indiana and it seems fairly unbiased except some of the teachers you can tell are conservative. Also I have never had religion challenged at public school
I currently attend a public school in semi-rural Indiana. If you are not taking any nationally standardized classes, what is taught is very unbiased and it only displays just the facts. However, if you are like me and are taking several AP classes, you will notice a heavy bias towards certain political beliefs. As a result of these political beliefs being taught, there tends to be quite a lot of anti-Christian rhetoric, specifically in History class. Taking APUSH is just my teacher dissing on Christians for 45 minutes.
As a Vietnamese, I am very suprised by how much flak public schools have in the US. Here in Vietnam, for much of my life, private schools as been the byword for failure. It was a pay-to-(not-even)win versus hard work, basically. Now private schools are radically catching up, but the best resources and personnels are still dominated by public institutions for the most parts.
I knew one girl who was homeschooled but went to my high school for a few subjects like and other electives. I'm probably going to consider a hybrid solution for my kids. I was bored throughout school and doing a few classes self paced might have been a better option.
The issue is that parents are not raising thier children. They allow the school system to mould their children. If someone is homeschooling then there is a higher chance that they are the ones raising their kids.
In England we have church funded schools which are just as easy to get into as state schools and the only difference is that it’s more Christian focused. It was amazing you get good Anglican theology and you’re surrounded with people who grew up in the same neighbourhood as you.
My main spiritual leader at the moment did not want to send her son to public school. But then she felt God telling her to do so anyway, because there is a mission field there. How can we reform the school back to the healthy teachings, if there are no parents or family to be an example? This is in Norway though, I have a feeling it is still less of a problem her than in the US.
as a homeschooled teenager, ive went through public school from 3-13 and i learnt worldly things amongst that, ive never been a christian until a year ago. I found Christ through the struggles and became homeschooled. I still expose myself to atheist arguments whilst also learning. There can always be balance.
I was in public school my whole life, graduated in 2018 and I'm glad I went to public school. Granted, I went to school in the south, so generally less liberal than northern states. For the most part, I never got opposition based on my faith from teachers, it was mostly other students. I learned a lot about living at peace with my friends and other students who did not share my beliefs and when to push back and stand up for myself. If I encountered something that went against my beliefs, I spoke with my parents about it and we discussed it. Because of my parent's parenting style and being in public schools, I never felt sheltered to a fault and I was able to develop a faith that was my own, because I had to learn how to critically analyze my faith when surrounded by a lot of unchristian behavior. I was also aware that to a lot of my friends, I was their only exposure to God and Christianity, so I had to learn to hold myself to a higher standard and show them Christ through my actions and speech. In my opinion, the devil wants Christian influence out of the public school as much as possible, and we're doing it for him by convincing ourselves that the public schools will corrupt our children and they have to be isolated away from the world.
I and all my siblings were homeschooled for most of our lives (and we all loved it and learned well). My little sister attended a Christian school from Year 9 to Year 12 so she could do VCE (basically like a high school diploma in my state). In Australia, Christian schools have a reputation for providing a good education - not necessarily as good as a grammar school or some well-known private schools, but definitely better than public schools. While there is generally an expectation that students are Christians, many non-Christian parents want to send their children to Christian schools because the education quality is good. So there will be students that have no interest in Christianity, including some that outright hate it. One of these attempted to bully my sister for a while (because bullying is still a thing in Christian schools), which is a story in itself, but even in a Christian school my sister was not sheltered from her faith being challenged. I think her experience at that school, both the good and the bad, was a part of her journey to professing her faith a few years later. That said, I think the reality of teenagers and young adults "jumping ship" from their Christian upbringing is INDIRECTLY linked to Christian schools. You make a very good point about the kind of teaching that has to shoehorn the most basic common denominator "sermon" into every class, and that has some responsibility. Expanding on what you said about parents, I think parents need to still have an attitude of raising their children, not just letting schools do it and assuming it will be a solved problem. In my state, the government is mandating more and more about education from daycare to TAFE and university, even in private and Christian schools, so now more than ever, Christian parents NEED to step up and teach their children about the faith, but also to love learning. That is how we will be able to break down the image that Christians are not intellectual, or that faith and science are mutually exclusive, and that is how we will save our children.
I spent 12 yrs in the public education system as someone on the Spectrum. Let's just say there's good and bad, but didn't abandon my set of principles from an early age to this day.
Public schools in general are just bad and don't pay teachers that much, that is why I plan to teach in private schooling once I get my Bachelors Degree in History.
Looking back I'm glad I went to a scientific school in Continental Europe where faith wasn't discussed because over 90% were Atheists. But later British University shocked me with their low standards and disregard for scientific truth.
I graduated high school 2 years ago but I personally decided to switch to online homeschool for my last 2 years. Best decision I’ve made. I don’t live in the best area. Not the worst, but definitely not the best, so hs was awful. I was pretty much one of the only students who did not do weed or any other drug. I felt like an outcast because of this. My friends started getting into that so I distanced myself from them and basically had no friends. When I switched to online school, I stopped seeing all of that. I did not have to be in that environment to start with. Homeschool for my hypothetical future kids it is.
I cant tell you how many times Ive met people who said "I wish I was homeschooled" because I was able to do my own curriculum and do advanced math from a young age.
not all parents can afford to homeschool, but homeschooling is nice
It's not just that, its learning it in a casual way with no stressful test environment or peer comparison. The experience of just doing the math, shaping your approach to the subject
There's something called Agora in the Netherlands basically the same thing
@@gilgameschvonuruk4982 While this is true to an extent, I think a lot of people are not willing to give up some convenience for the sake of their children.
I don't say that as an attack, because we are all so conditioned by our modern context.
I just also know some folks who have chosen to live within lower means and be a single income household purely for the sake of their children's education (both in academics and in faith) -- and I think its a discussion a lot of folks should be open to at least exploring in their families.
@@CameronChunnTheOriginal I believe it when I see it
I'm 18, nearly 19, and grew up on the south side of Chicago my entire life. I've been homeschooled since 1st grade since my parents disliked the public schools around here. Never had enough money for private school. I graduated earlier this year and couldn't be more thankful for being homeschooled
Congrats on graduating!
I hope you will stay a strong Christian. This world is tough!
If chick-fil-a workers ran the world we'd probably solve all the world's problems in 6 days
And rest on the seventh
@@madisonmeyers5493 Imagine the world government closing down on Sundays so everyone just has to behave
@@danshakuimo Your government doesnt????
@@danshakuimo Lol there was an Andy Griffith episode where they just let out the one guy in jail because it was Sunday. "Alright be back here Monday morning!" or something like that.
@@robwhite3241you just brought back a whole lot of good memories
It all depends on the public school. My daughters went to a Bay Area public school (wealthy leftists) and they are fine. During the height of the transgender bathroom issue, one of the school officials brought it up and got shot down pretty quickly. Most liberals/leftists in the Bay Area live conservative lifestyles while promoting liberal ideologies outside of their school districts or neighborhoods. They are all about "as long as it's not in my area".
Yeah this definitely changed in the last couple of years. Transgenders were taught to be treated as a protected class and I was also taught the HIV rates for Homosexuals being higher was just coincidence. At least down in San Diego
@@wild_burn There are "head leftists" and "body leftists". These "heads" are very well-to-do leftists and they live very conservative lifestyles (like Zuckerberg). The "body" leftists are "cannon fodders" or "idiots" like you see rioting. These "body" leftists are similar to mindless zombies.
The same principle applies to conservatives. There are many "zombie" conservatives.
@thomasc9036 exactly
@@wild_burn HIV rates for homosexuals being higher is just a coincidence? I press X to doubt. I've been deep in the LGBTQ+ community before, I've seen some dark stuff... I think the HIV rates are actually higher than the CDC says they are.
Will forever maintain that being an atheist in highschool made me a better Christian because I'd read the Bible with the most critical eye and studied it on a much deeper level than anyone else in my family. Because of that I'm much more knowledge on Scripture and church history than most people I meet. It's true what they say "The best Christians are converts" and I somehow managed to get the best of both worlds. Truly he loved me before I knew him.
Absolutely true
I think it is an interesting effect that needs scientific study.
It seems to me that people who are uneducated but learning something will switch their views when confronted with evidence they are wrong (perhaps you saw some highly convincing philosophical arguments?) and will then continue learning the objections to that new view until they can defend it. It seems to be true in both directions, like for instance the most convincing atheist aren't people like Dawkins but rather people like Ehrman who came from a background of Christianity and believed in a literal interpretation of the Bible becoming Atheist once a literal interpretation was shown objectively wrong.
So true! Some of the best Christians that I know are converts from atheism!
Welcome to Christianity, btw! ✝❤
100%! I just found Jesus last month after being agnostic for the first 15 years of my life, never been better!
Thanks for the insights, Zoomer. Over the last decade, I have, as an Orthodox Christian, worked for a public school district, a LCMS Lutheran University, and a Catholic 7-12 private school doing educational IT administration. Over six years working for an urban school district, I saw a lot of good and bad, and let me tell you one thing: just because a school may be run by Christians or run by "secular" governments doesn't necessarily mean much. For instance, at the LCMS university, when I first started and until I left, there was an environment of political leftism that was much more identifiable than at the public school district with an entirely blue school board in a blue state. It's important for parents to consider every educational path that would be viable for their child's success. I've seen a lot of success among homeschooled individuals who were maybe a little ackward, but they tend to grow out of it fast. Sometimes public schools might be the only option financially or reasonably available. It's very important for parents to be present in their child's educational journey, no matter what label the school is associated with, and to try to make the best of what educational resources are available.
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As a person who went to public school, I agree. Current public schools are really cesspits (especially schools in the ghettos where I went) and you can get really tempted by the social environment. I unfortunately got tempted and ended up going to a school program in Texas called DAEP (Disciplinary Alternative Education Programs). The environment was 10 times worse than in regular public school. Students there would have some of the vilest things come out of their mouths. Some would break things, kick doors open, attempting escape to "go to the strip club", and jump on desks it was an actual circus. Majority of them were in that place for drugs, assault, home invasion, and other wrongful things and in the most severe cases they would be sent to juvie. I was a sinful kid but even then that made me realize I did not want to go down that path. I matured and changed some of my ways but it wasn't until this year when I found my Christian faith that I looked back on the things I did and the environment I was in and thanked God for making me see the light. While my past was not good, I do not regret it since I experienced what living in the world is like and realized I did not want to partake. Learning about God reinforced that view and on top of that he taught me the ultimate consequence of following the world. Praise the Lord!
I (23M) teach public high school in Texas and I've never met anyone who went through the DAEP and came back in a better place. First was my old middle school bully who got sent there for his MANY transgressions against girls (upskirting, slap ass Friday, the whole nine yards). I've heard only whispers but supposedly he only got more aggressive as time went on. Second was my ex. I haven't kept up with her but she's mentioned wanting to become a stripper (yes, SERIOUSLY). And third was one of my chemistry students. She dropped out within a week of returning. Whereabouts unknown but probably not good.
Pray for everyone in the DAEP. They need Jesus and the Holy Spirit more direly than most.
I am a millennial who I went to public school my whole life. I always used to scoff at homeschooling. Now? I feel pretty confident that my hypothetical future kids will be homeschooled. It's not even about Christianity. If school was the same as it was when I went to school, that would be one thing. As a Christian, I think it's actually very good to be exposed to kids of alternative viewpoints and religions.
However... I just know that if I had been in school today rather than 20 years ago, I would have absolutely started identifying as non-binary. Probably even a trans man eventually. Who knows what sort of damage I would have done to myself? I was gender confused from age 8 all the way through college (not anymore, thank goodness). And the only reason why I didn't end up doing something I regretted was because this trans nonsense was not in schools yet. And I'm just not willing to risk that sort of thing happening to my kids. Gender confusion is a very common thing for children, and there's no way I'll put a gender confused kid in a position to be exploited by the alphabet brigade if I can help it.
EDIT: Because there appears to be some confusion, I am a woman, not a man. :) Also, to the people replying who are upset over some random internet stranger feeling and thinking and living differently to you, you'll be in my prayers.
you can't even pretend not to be bigoted... 'alphbet brigade'? are you serious? i feel bad for your future children...
@@violeteyeswhat’s wrong with what he said? Sounds like his kids are gonna be awesome and based
Nah I doubt it, or your gendef identity is not very strong. Public school didn't have any such effect on me. None
@@colebacca1369 imagine what this person will say if their child is gay? do you think they will be accepting? I'm queer and regardless of how my parents feel about it I will still be queer. imo the purpose of parenthood is to raise a well adjusted, healthy person, not to pass on a religious doctrine, and a child should be encouraged to explore their identity, including gender. trans people will continue to exist regardless of if they are accepted.
@@violeteyes they will probably love them. I’d love my kid even if he was gay. Shoot I love my brother to death, who IS gay.
And no, they should not be encouraged to to “explore their identity” at a young age, that’s preposterous. Kids need firm guidance in the truth, not being pushed to be delusional.
Sweet. You continue to exist as a trans person, and we will continue to not accept that identity, sounds like a great compromise. That’s what a lot of people want anyways.
I myself grew up in a private Christian school back in Hong Kong. I went to the same school from kindergarten all the way to high school. Christian schools in Hong Kong have high academic standard. In fact a lot of the best schools in Hong Kong are either Catholic or Protestant. I am now living in the Bay Area, one of the most liberal metros in the US. My daughter will be getting to school age and I am debating if I should send her to a Christian school. Your video is very useful for me. The percentage of my classmates being Christians after graduating is certainly higher than people from public schools. Even for those who don't believe, all of them respect the Christian teachings. Another question would be, how early should we expose our kids to liberal teachings? Should we go with public school all the way, Christian school all the way, or start with a Christian school and switch to a public school when they are older?
Blessings! I’m not a parent but do hear a lot of these conversations at my local church. Familiarize yourself with the curriculuma of the Christian schools in your area and compare it to scripture and also your education you had back home. Pray about it with your spouse and family. I don’t know how else to help you but that’s all I got 😅 Prayers for you all !
I went through both K-3rd grade I went to a private Calvinist school and they made us read the KJV in ye olde English. I noticed when I switched to public school in 4th grade I was so far ahead of the rest of my class. I could do algebra before anybody else and my reading level was insanely high. 6-11th grade was miserable and I went through a lot of the same things that Redeemed Zoomer did. 12th grade I was homeschooled but I had a super cool youth group at this Baptist mega church and it was the first time I made new friends in years (I was a loner most of my life). I loved my youth group friends so much I looked forward to going to church on sundays and Wednesdays
I didn’t think I was that smart compared to the other kids in my class, until a fraction of the kids in my class argued that a butterfly was a bird(might I ad that this was in 10th grade, the school education system has fail us)
I heard that a Catholic nun can teach Spanish way faster than a public school teacher can. I think it's because the Catholic schools are always so harsh and very fast paced, but yeah it is true.
@@charles21137I remember in the mid 2000s I was in 5th grade in public school, and math was really boring to me. That’s because I was pretty good at math, and I wasn’t learning much. Went to private school the next year, and they had me take a placement test. Was immediately put a year ahead in math
From my experience, public school literally threw me in the worst course possible. Their way of handling situations just hurt me more than helped. Maybe not all public schools are bad, but i found it easier going to a Christian school. Besides, i get to learn Greek so thats neat. 👍
Greek is my ancestors language.
@@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded cool. 😎
I can’t stress enough how important school board elections are. Since most people don’t care about these races, they are very easy to take control of electorally. Even if you don’t send your kids to public schools, you still need to be invested in these races
No system with more Hypocrisy than Democracy. If the results turn out in to be “undesirable”, it could always be changed or ignored.
No what matters is public pressure and demonstration. That’s how leftist revolutionaries had their way.
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart.
@@amany247
If God is all powerful then why would he only let Man have a son, but he himself couldn’t?
I feel very lucky now, here in Romania (a mainly orthodox country) public schools are very frendly with religion, most of the students are religious, basicly all teachers are religios and it is great, i had a teacher that was so religious she went to church every sunday and friday at the night liturgy, she took lent everytime it sayed to, she was awesome, i also had a history teacher who was so religious, she had a big cross neckles and always talked about how important and beautiful christianity is.
Something similar occurs here in (the western part) of Puerto Rico. Our culture is infused with the Catholic Church and so most people (even Protestants) have a large notion of Catholic holidays and traditions.
Foarte bine, așa trebuie
in spain catholic religion is mandatory until primary school, then it's optative. in secondary school instead of having philosophy for those who don't go to religion the mfs added a class of doing nothing so people go to there, and in bachillerato (7th and 8th grade for you) you literally go home if you don't go to religion. I love your videos so much. I converted to catholicism thanks to you.
I'm reminded of Ken Ham's comparison to Peter's ministry to the Jews versus Paul's ministry to the Greeks: Christian parents don't properly prepare their children for what the world has to offer, send them out into the "Greek" institutions to preach the Gospel they never really learned, and are then shocked to find that their children come back "Greek" themselves.
I went to a Christian middle school and it was easily worse than anything high school had to offer. The curriculum was weak and disciplinary action towards troublemakers was shockingly lax. Public high school definitely gave me a stronger metric to test my own beliefs against just when modern progressivism was really starting to take off.
Man, this hits home, the catholic school I went to for 13 years has completely started do decline academically at a worrying pace, and yes, the problem is inadequate cathechesis in the familial enviroment, also I have seen a declin in the religiousness of adults in the last decade, sad to see.
As a Reformed Christian who attends a private Fundamentalist Christian school, I find it very accurate how Redeemed Zoomer made his impression of the staff at those schools. At those kind of school, everyone is indoctrinated into the theology of the person who owns it. Basically, my school adheres to Fundamentalist Pentecostal theology, and they are all strongly Young Earth Creationist. There really isn't a lot of room for disagreement when it comes to matters of the age of the earth and evolution.
That was my school too. I had no idea there were other ideas outside of that until I was like 14-15 years old.
Unfortunately, neither YECs, OECs, nor unbelievers tend to really understand the epistemology of the situation. The point of disagreement is on assumptions that cannot be empirically proven and that must be chosen before any empirical conclusions can be drawn. Miracles, by definition, result in a situation where what appears to have happened if you take the present situation and run the laws of physics backward to a time before the miracle is *not* the same as what actually happened. An unbeliever must be convinced that miracles can occur before any debate on specific miracles (such as creation) is possible. For believers, YEC vs. OEC is strictly a matter of the interpretation of Genesis and must be answered before any scientific interpretation is possible. I'll also note that even in a YEC scenario, processes that have not had time to occur since creation can still be relevant: just because Adam and Eve had not been born the usual way does not mean that on day 7 the specifics of human reproduction were irrelevant to them!
I would agree that the neodarwinist form of evolution is wrong but also that the earth and univrse are old
All I know is that I was homeschooled mostly and partly public school, and I will DEFINITELY be homsechooling my own kids if God ever grants us any. It's not just the problem of political and anti-christian indoctrination. It's just the worst model for education imaginable, poor learning environment, moves at the pace of the slowest kid, and your "socialization" is with a bunch of unruly kids that don't respect authority.
I started out in public school until 10th grade, then finished our high school at a Christian private school. Honestly the damage to my mental health from public school was horrible, I hated everyone and everything, I was deeply racist (my public schools were… diverse…) and I was super lonely. Genuinely in the 5 years since graduating high school, I am still friends with my Christian school friends, we even went to college together and are still best friends now. Long story short, I will never send my kids to a public school, those places are Godless cesspools that breed misery and confusion on a degree that’s absolutely mind boggling.
Are you not racist now??
No god but Allah
Islam way for peace and real monotheist
Search about the truth with honest heart.
@@amany247Muhammad said if he was a false prophet that Allah would cut his aorta. Allah did just that. Muhammad is a false prophet.
@tedcruz212 "It is quite legitimate for nations to treat their differences as a sacred inheritance and guard them at all costs" - Pius XII
As someone who went to public school for 13 years, I can confirm that yes public schools are very bad! Public schools do produce strong Christians like what Redeemed Zoomer said, and I think it overall is a good experience to be in a public school just to be strong mentally, but yeah. There were so many mean people in public school. Sex ed was basically just saying to use protection and briefly going over the organs without talking about the urges, it barely said anything about abstinence or having self control. There was so much sex at the public schools that I went to, the teachers didn't really teach self control. Public schools are just pools of hormones, revealingness, and impulsiveness. I met a few friends but there but there were so many groomers and abusers. Literally all of the groomers and abusers that I encountered were atheists, and some of the nicest people that I met were Christian!
While I do think homeschooling can be great. Not everyone can homeschool and not everyone should. If you want public schools to be better people shouldnt be running away.
"13 years surrounded by fellow children and government employees" = "seen it all"
hilarious
This man has never had a bad day in his life and it shows
@@diegob2018lol dont act like you're oppressed just because you are a sex pest in a way too tolerant society
@@diegob2018lmao that comment makes no sense
As a Baptist your analogy of a vaccine is the best way to explain this
I’m in public high school down south, and I can say that it is not as bad down here as people say it is
Same, here in SC, it's really chill here
Praise God you weren’t born in the East or West coast
@@wild_burn honestly, I feel like America in general is kinda crappy, regardless of which area you're at, it's just that the South is more chill
After I get my Master's in Game Design, I might move to another country
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For all of American’s flaws, at the very least it’s not against the law to have the wrong opinion (yet).
Though it’s your decision at the of the day, and if you can truly find a better life then go for it.
The ability to play Minecraft and commentate at the same time for 26 minutes is astounding, I'd lose my words in not even a minute. God bless!
My first experience with being close to a sexual predator (proximity wise) was my 6th grade female swim teacher, so i always had trouble listening to feminist garbage in public school because i knew how flawed we all are. I think it lead to my faith now
My first encounter with a sexual predator was in 9th grade, I didn't know he was one until the news came out that he went to jail! I think he will be out of jail soon sadly, but yeah he was an atheist and I think very anti-religious. I swear, it's always the groomers who are atheists. I think this all has also helped my faith grow, especially since I've seen how bad the LGBTQ+ super far left liberal atheists can be. Don't trust when people say it's perfectly normal to act on one's urges... it is a huge red flag.
As a person who has always been in a Christian private school, I've been to schools with very high focus on catechizing and education. I have had very good teachers and all the classes aren't just sermons. I don't know if my schools are outliers but I haven't seen a Christian school that teaches the faith but not actually teaching. I know some "Christian" schools that are pretty non-Christian but none with that problem.
To the contrary, I would say even just a few dozen hours of reviewing high quality debates with Christian apologists is a better inoculation against anti-christian argumentation than a dozen years of public school. I think the issues you correctly raise regarding sheltered cradle Christians are to be solved by deliberate study of apologetics, philosophy, deeper theology, and historic dialogue, rather than increasing their daily secular influence.
Much respect, RZ, God bless.
I'm getting a degree in education and truly want public schools to succeed. Most people don't have another option and we have to live, drive, and vote among the people public schools educate. Personally, I directly benefited from public school as my parents are poor and not well-educated. Christian parents, being more concerned and involved with their children's growth than many other parents, often raise good students. Well-prepared students and involved, supporting parents are more the cornerstone of education than anything else so it is generally a blessing for teachers and other students to have Christian classmates. The schools also benefit from guidance of decent parents who are often Christian. That said, schools have become intolerable. The quality is in decline, standards falling, students misbehaving with impunity, and teachers and administration unwilling or unable to even slow down the problems. Even under prudent management, the problems of the modern world leaking into schools may be too much. Teachers cannot even discipline students over clear misbehavior without being screamed at by parents. The matter of enabled or encouraged radical students and teachers will only worsen as well. If I were to send my own child to a public school now or in the near future, I would think I'm laying stumbling blocks ahead of them - all for a potentially subpar education.
I wish I was homeschooled. The public schools screwed me up when it comes to math and I have to take the SAT next month and I’m struggling with what should be easy math.
I work in schools supporting teachers to improve practice. I think there's a massive misunderstanding about just how poor teacher training is now, and how much that explains the current situation. You're given crap training, under supported, things get worse, and you get jaded and hopeless. Any ray of hope, however ineffective, becomes like a life saver.
And, even when we know better and pilot new means with significantly improved strategies, the degree of institutional resistance (from habit, fear, or apathy from one useless initiative after another) is tremendous.
But we are improving in my region. I'm glad I was put in a place to be part of an effective solution. Every day I'm watching capacity build, kids improve, and teachers come to life.
Thank you for your work
Yes. It is vital for socializing and culturally acclimating any child to the rest of the world. Regardless of belief or faith, if a child is unmoored from their peers and equals, they're going to find themselves isolated and unhappy.
School is the easiest, cheapest, most useful and utilitarian safeguard against that.
I'd recommend reading John Taylor Gatto's book Dumbing Us Down, it's an exploration of all the complex and unrecognized ways public school harms children, written by a long time award winning public school teacher who saw it from the inside.
Also you should watch God's Not Dead, it's so bad it's absolutely hilarious!
ngl everything this man has said in this vid is so true and im legit experiencing all of what he said in this moment, even when im in england , it still appiles.
Every other kids Christian film: 🤓
Veggie tales: 😎
As a high school senior (public school) I have absolutely loved high school. My sister (who went to the same school) also loved high school and she now hates college. All this to say not everyone has the same opinions on high school.
(Of course in my high school almost everyone says they are Christian. Still lots of degeneracy but less.)
The worst thing school did for me was tell me that masturbation and porn was "healthy" and "normal". Sucked me into a fapping addiction when i was 12 and it SUCKED. Only recently have I converted from agnosticism to baptist Christianity at the age of 15 and I've been doing good since, but Lord please forgive those who got me into that stuff, it always causes me a bit of anxiety that my past will cause me problems finding a wife and such in the future. God bless yall 🙏 ✝️
12??? It should be illegal to even mention such things to people this young.
I was unknowingly somewhat catechised by my parents, believers but not church goers. I visited the dark side and in the last 10 years have been drawn towards the light. Thanks for all your great videos!
As some others that went to public schools from the south have said that it wasn’t that bad at all for me. A lot of the teachers that I had throughout my education went to church every Sunday, were devout,faithful Christians, & you could tell it too. All the Christian teachers were the most beloved & the most personable & by far students who had personal issues would go to those teachers for counsel & advice. I know it differs in the other parts of the country so i guess my opinion on the matter would be 1). If you can afford private Christian school go for it 2). If the current public school(s) you’re child is zoned for aren’t teaching woke anti-Christian & aren’t hiring woke anti-Christian teachers then your kid will be fine more than likely
I went to a public middle school for a brief time. My faith was never challenged, even in science class; my emotional wellbeing was (Though not as much in science class. Good teacher). This was my main concern with sending my (future, theoretical) kids to public school. And when I hear about the mania around public schooling (including from my mom, a newly minted teacher herself), I don't want my kids getting thrown into that. Even my mom, a public school teacher, supports me in this. My mom didn't become a teacher because anything about it was good; I get the feeling it had more to do with making things good, if only a little more. Really, social media was a bigger hurtle for my faith, but it only made me stronger.
As for the "it's good because it's Christian" thing, yeah, I get that. It might be safe in some ways but it isn't of good quality. I'd really like more Christian creatives to be able to let loose and make things which are glorifying to God both nominally and effectually.
I grew up attending portland public schools, as well as an Catholic school I got kicked out of. Portland public schools are a joke, but I was surprised that even liberal values were taught at Catholic school. We had a social worker come into my health class and explain that racism does not exist towards white people, that there are infinite genders, etc. A lot of my close friends from Catholic school are as degenerate as my public school friends (not saying I’m holier than thou, I’m degenerate as well). But yeah portland is ridiculous, plenty of public school teachers openly expressing anti Christian opinions.
The wokes have hijacked Catholic schools too. Catholic schools used to be rigorous in education but the quality is decreasing due to the woke crowd coming in after destroying public schools. They cause intellectual rot everywhere they go.
In my opinion homeschooling should become more mainstream.
The fact that American schools teach gender theory scares me tbh
Here in Greece (strictly Orthodox) we barely had Sex. Ed. and like what we did have is just how the genitals work lmao? Not any gender theory or whatever? History is mostly just giving a non-religious view of the world but we still have the Christian mind-set when talking about history so it's pretty good, and we also have a pretty strict religion class where we got Bible verses and we just study the Christian faith! Meanwhile the kids are just all Christian, although like most of them aren't that "strict" about it if that makes sense? Like they are Christian but don't care much, some of them are not following tranditional values but that's just because they aren't educated or don't care about it, others are pretty Christian and like go to Church and stuff it's a mix but there's no Christian shaming and the people who do that are in the minority
I was publicly educated and wouldn't wish it on anyone
Well, in my public high school in the mountains of Tennessee biology teachers refused to teach macro evolution as a fact, as none of them believed it themselves. Multiple teachers have crosses and verses of scripture on their classroom walls, and religion is frequently talked about with the teachers to the students. We have no sexual education classes, and never have had them in my county. There is also still public prayer before athletic events in certain parts of the region. I guess it just depends on what part of the country you're in.
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As someone who was homeschooled till fifth grade, went to a small (non-Christian) charter school in fifth and middle school, did my whole freshman year in a public high school, and now am doing a Classical Christian homeschooling program while attending the high school for choir and sports, I have a unique perspective to bring to this discussion. My childhood was blissful, sheltered, stable, and pure. When I started at the charter school I enjoyed it, though the beginning of my "corruption" did occur that year. 6th was also good, until the pandemic cut off all social interaction. Coming back partway through 7th I was exposed to a lot of horrid, nasty stuff due to kids coming in who had been attending the public middle school. I was depressed, had no true friends, was miserable and learning nothing in most of my classes, and had no solace. 8th grade was essentially the same. When I started high school it began as a breath of fresh air, as I finally had friends again and could do extra curriculars. But the academics were still immensely lacking, and I had my greatest crisis of faith so far-- I brought it to confession multiple times but was just no longer believing in God. He had mercy on me, though, and by Pascha I was holding on and am again secure in my faith. Now being mostly homeschooled, but still going to the high school for choir, it's really the most wholesome alternative for me. I can interact with people of differing beliefs and learn to interact with that respectfully, but I am taking challenging courses and also having conversations with several hardcore evangelical baptist types in the homeschool community. It's encouraged me to continue studying my faith, and try to pray more. Thinking about my future children, I don't want them exposed to the stuff I was as early as middle school, through the students. I would rather carefully instruct them from a faith-based perspective-giving the facts, but not glamorizing any of it. I'd likely homeschool to really focus on education, because the main reason I got by in middle school was having a lot of knowledge and credit I retained from my homeschool days that got me through.
Sorry to anyone who reads this that it's essentially an essay. Just wanted to share my experience.
Public Schooling in SoCal is a mixed bag for me. I graduated when the District just stated to put in New Gender theory, and some of the points in CRT were just starting to creep in.
The final years of school felt like pulling teeth, and I could confidently say that 50% of what I learned in school has no use in the “real world”
I believe public schools are the place we’re tradition goes to die, any “celebration” of different customs is superficial, since it’s the school’s job to create more workers, not scholars or professionals
Fortunately I did have few great teachers that encouraged learning outside of school. One of them was my US history teacher who although was a liberal, allowed me to explain my views and didn’t try to silence me. I’ll have the utmost respect for him because of that.
I went to a Lutheran elementary & middle school before going to a public high school. We did have to take some classes at the local middle school. In hindsight, I'm glad my parents sent me to a private over public, mainly because the latter allowed poor behavior that wasn't conducive to learning & imo the education was better & expectations were higher. I'd often score in the top 10% on those standardized state tests. And contrary to what many people today think, we learned all parts of history: the good, the bad, the ugly (slavery, Jim Crow etc, Trail of Tears). They didn't sugar coat it. Also at my high school, I could tell my chemistry teacher was a christian.
So many physical fights would break out at the public school though & other misbehavior was tolerated. No accountability. I think most of my classmates at the Lutheran school went on to do well. My sis did have a rebellious stage in high school /college but she found her way back & is now sending her kid to a Christian school.
That said, if I grew up in an area that had top-rated public schools, I would consider sending them there if cost was a factor.
There are ways to do homeschooling without sheltering them. Like have them watch Dr. James White or William Lane Craig debates.
Not a Christian but state schooling is generally garbage. The quality and environment are awful even outside inner cities. They serve to advance the interest of the state not to genuinely educate people or teach them how to think for themselves or prepare them to pursue their own goals.
As someone who went to Catholic school for 5 years, there’s two main differences I found in terms of my faith. One is the fact that they were sort of able to hold my faith in check and keep it in order. We did daily prayers, weekly masses, and other stuff. The second is all this opportunity and talks in my religion class really helped me take that step in pursuing my faith and growing in my relationship with God. I switched back to public this year and it gave me that responsibility in keeping my faith in check as it was now my own responsibility to stay close in all terms with God like this is part of his plan he has for me. Bottom line is, you don’t have to but if you think it will help you, definitely give it a shot. Quick note, make sure you find a good Christian school you can trust, cause there are so many Christian schools everywhere driving people away from God.
Religious values are one thing but another very practical disadvantage of going to public schools in the US is just that the quality of the education isn't very good.
The schools are so bad in some areas they don't test the students. They just pass them from one grade to the next.
I went to a small private Christian(specifically WELS) school in the rural Midwest. I really believe in Christian education particularly for defense of the faith. We had classes talking about other denominations, unbelievers and the defense our faith. We had exellent teachers, I definetly think you should vet christian schools on what they teach and how they teach. The whole landscape of education is begining to change. Montesorri, Classical education, and alternative education methods are becoming popular because there is this slow shift happening.
I want a follow up to this video when you and Mrs. Zoomer have middle-schoolers and then again with high-schoolers. I am a father of 5. We home school but our kids do public school sports. To not consider the cultural and religious impact on your kids when making the decision about school is foolish. Of course you should consider that. Yes the education is also very important but its a whole package. My oldest was in public school up until her first year of middle school. We watched in one year her soft and gentle heart start to get hard and her attitudes shift dramatically. She is now a junior in highschool and thanks us all the time for pulling her out.
Atheism Vaccines… I relate to that on so many levels
Can you do a review of "God's Not Dead." I'd love to hear you shred it to bits.
I went to a public school in a southern small town. The society around me was generally conservative so it was common to be a "christian." Of course, being in high school all the "christian" people went out and got wasted and kept fornicating with each other. I never got invited to parties because I wasn't in the popular crowd. Though at some point in my time in high school I started engaging with atheist ideas online a lot, and that sent me into a sort of agnostic ideology while still barely clinging on to Christ. I constantly prayed for a sign from God that he was there, but he never gave me a sign. I decided to go to a Church summer camp one year and as I was listening to one of the sermons, it hit me all at once. In an instant, my confusion was wiped away and was replaced with clarity. Then I finally knew who Jesus Christ was. Since then I've been growing in him, and it's not without setbacks. Since I graduated high school and have gone to college, my faith is stronger than ever. It certainly helps when I discuss with the atheists around me and I realize they are extremely theologically illiterate. They hate a religion that they don't even understand. I think that's the most unfortunate thing.
im so glad my history classes have taught actual history
It's kinda wild to see how radically different our high school experiences were. We're not that far apart; I graduated in 2014. Of course, I also went to public school in Texas, so that helps. I became atheist in high school, but I was very much in the minority. I engaged in all kinds of debauchery that makes me cringe to this day; well, really everything about my high school self makes me cringe, but w/e. Even so, there was some of this stuff creeping in back then, but the environment and culture were much more friendly to traditional values, and I had friends who were at peast ostensibly, if not overtly, Christian, and even my most staunchly atheist friends wouldn't disrespect their religion to their face. Vocally disagree, sure, but not socially ostracize them. Probably a matter of social power, given the atheists and leftists were the minority. Had it been the other way around and the atheists and leftists were the majority, we definitely wouldn't have been as respectful toward them. I don't even want to think about how much things have drifted at my public school in the nearly ten years since I left.
Through random circumstances, I find myself back on your videos. Even though this video topic is school, the foundation of any human community has to do with what I wrote on a previous video of yours.
These next words are my comment on your video titled "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft"
6:24 7:27 (on the video "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft")
This example helped give me something to work with that I hadn't had the ability to phrase before. I'm starting to feel like the phrase "take back the church", especially in the context of conversation you've chosen is missing something important.
For all my life, I have been one of the oddballs in my community, even in churches. As I grew, I wanted to truly understand more, whether it be within me or outside of me. In the mix that life is, it wasn't exactly pleasant to come to the realization that the majority of people I interacted with had little-to-no care for who I am or what I find interesting. This stings, especially, when the people in a church are constantly talking about community, love, wisdom, and responsibility. The truth is that there is a venom hidden within the human condition, no matter what your philosophy is. That venom is superficiality, otherwise known as apathy or laziness.
The more I've grown, the more I've become familiar with it. The greatest examples were slightly mentioned in your History of Christianity video, with Jesus' mission being easily misinterpreted by people who wished for him to conquer the very tangible Roman Empire instead of seeing that he was freeing them from the slavery within their hearts; even more so emphasized by the fact that Jesus had come at a time where the Jews were not in literal slavery, but social slavery where they bent and broke their own good potential to bargain their meager impulses from the largest human construction the world had ever known. And after Christ ascended, superficiality was continued by the perceived certainty that the Roman mess was surely the end times, and things like the crusades that were certain in saving a specific piece of tangible earth being a God ordained destiny.
The tragedy is the human choice to so clearly abandon the chance of reflecting just a bit more to open up to that truth that God sees INTO you, and does not give you quick answers for your earthly cares.
Back to 6:24 (on the video "3 reasons conservatives ALWAYS lose - KingdomCraft")
What strikes me here is not your focus on a general mechanism of retreating, but instead, asking why that is the case.
It doesn't take long to peel back what's to blame. It's the same thing I've struggled against my whole life, to see people resign themselves to be blown away by the wind of their comfort zone. People do all sorts of things because they aren't comfortable. Even when people aren't explicitly uncomfortable, something foreign to their experience can be far too confusing to authentically engage in, unless they are the type of person who naturally wants to explore that unknown.
The people in your given example had a specific motive in their hearts. Although they had won a vote within that communal body, they were like so many other people in the world, that they didn't wish to exist in something where they might have to make concerted effort to consider what to do. Consideration takes time, and can be uncomfortable, because God has told us that very thing about doing something right in the eyes of God, and how it either turns a house against each other, or catches their attention and rouses curiosity.
The people in that church who retreated, in their hearts, were so disgusted by things they found uncomfortable, that they took the easy way out. The church I currently attend has a slightly different version of this apathy, as people sit in their chairs on Sunday, saying what they think is the right thing when they're socially expected to provide feedback, but otherwise sit and stare in their passively comfortable spectacle of rinsing and repeating a reliable schedule. There's potlucks, and cake, and all the fun little activities you can think of, but the clock is ticking and you won't ever find the majority going into longform discussion about God's word while being vulnerable in how God is shaping them through their individual testimony.
That's the thing. Vulnerability.
Beyond any narrative a person gives behind what they don't like and why they're doing something, the answer is that they're afraid to think of what will happen after they put themselves out in the open of stating who they really are and how they really feel. There isn't even a beginning of a hope to motivate being vulnerable there; even in a simple exchange of words.
I use this illustration to show WHY people are running away, instead of just addressing the symptom that "conservatives have a problem of running away"-- actually going into the heart of why the problem exists. In this way, assuming the term "Christian" means "everyone who goes to church has the same understanding and connection with God" limits the ability to see these kinds of problems. I believe that you should move beyond slogans and describe the direction and tools God gave us to know the detail of what things are, why they function in that way, and articulate what the good potential is that we should chase. Here are some thoughts about what I've experienced that have repeatedly emphasized themselves as being from the wisdom of God, beyond any of our mundane thoughts.
I'm thankful that the Lord has been letting me reflect on things I've been seeing, like what true kindness means. It's like how the modern world bastardizes the term "love" by trying to make it synonymous with unrelenting acceptance for everything and anything. True care also means that you want someone to avoid harm and negatively impacting others around them. It's the same reason why we want our friends and family to regularly bathe; it's best for their health, it's best for the people around them, and when it's properly understood it shows that they are mature enough to move beyond their impulsively prideful judgements on what they want in the matter.
There's a book called Tactics by Greg Koukl: it has been one of the more influential studies in my mind of how to speak with anyone about a belief they hold. The greatest truth within it is something the author doesn't necessarily recognize in an articulated way: the true way to disarm someone and have a truly productive and vulnerable connection with someone is to be kind in having the most authentic curiosity in getting to know what they believe and the reasons they believe it. This also means that with the amazingly complex individuality we all have within The Body of Christ, one person may not be the exact person to help another break through their prideful understandings, but they can help plant a good seed in their minds. That is true kindness, that is true love, and it can be painfully clear in ability to be articulated.
This is why, when you kept voicing this idea of retaking the church, but merely saying the abstracted phrases of "retake institutions", "be as bold as them while not being sinful", and "show people how Christianity can improve society" is not enough to illustrate. I felt disappointed that you didn't take time to reveal the grounded tools of how to do that. Answers are abound, just as much as God is present in every moment.
One thought I did find right is thinking of the duality of Conservatism and Progressivism, and where that is true within God's plan.
What is a true progressive Christianity, if the opposite of that is conservatism that veers towards stagnation? It is truly allowing God's word to pierce and overwhelm the vulnerable truth about who you are, how you've sinned, and the potential of who you can become because of God's love and strength. It's also the fulfillment of reaching out to others in that same sacrifice of personal comfort.
What is The Great Commission about? That same kind of vulnerability in getting to know someone and walk with them as Jesus walked with the disciples. Only through that discernment, responsibility, accountability, and loving motivation can anyone hope to make disciples and build a true community.
I am still trying to find ways to break through with the people around me. I am forever thanking God that I have found at least one soul who wishes to be in my presence and share these hopes with me. I pray that we can all be more brave in facing these parts of ourselves, bringing our daily worries to God, and also making the bold request that God continually puts his wisdom within our thoughts instead of thinking of 'waiting on the Lord' as a passive state.
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So, to conclude, it doesn't matter what school you put your kid in, or what school your parents put YOU in. What matters is whether you succeed in being authentic and vulnerable with other people, as well as be peacemakers in conversation with anyone.
Christ did not build the church so that people can passively sit next to one another for 40 years and fail to know the person next to them for all that time. It's not about get-togethers and worship nights.
It's about making as deep and meaningful of connections as we can, and YES, that involves having conversations that are conflicting.
Romans chapter 14 is clear about how we should speak to one another about things, be certain in our own mind, and find peace in either agreement or acceptance of the difference between people's non-essential beliefs and habits.
Verses 22 and 23 state how not having conviction in your heart about a discipline is a sin. THAT'S LITERALLY CALLING SUPERFICIALITY AND WEAKNESS FOR PEER-PRESSURE SEPARATION FROM GOD.
A similar topic, but not necessarily about superficiality, is Matthew 18:15-20. That deals with how believers should deal with a fellow believers sin against God's commandments.
1:40 i have a question on this because in my skl it teaches that the church oppressed and reduced the changes in medicine and treaments throughout medival periods. But if its actually false that it isnt the case then this quote rlly is true. (i go to a public skl in uk )
Perhaps you read different books and went to different schools, but never in my education did I get the impression the European colonists were so terrible to the natives of places they colonized because they were Christian I got that impression because the colonists were racist.
When I was in high school in the mid 2010s, there was no sex ed or health class.
The most conservative teacher was the marine biology teacher.
It's actually kind of funny, of all my teachers, (at public school btw) the only one to say they're Christian is my CHEMISTRY teacher. And I know students taking his class who say Christianity is anti-science.
I had en encounter with Jesus Christ when covid started. He is coming soon. He died 2000 years ago for our sins and rose again on the third day so we can be made right with God. Jesus: I am The Way, The Truth, and The Life, no man comes unto The Father but thou Me. May God Bless You!
Please stop saying he's coming soon because it's been 2,000 years now and with all the predictions made in the past by people who said to have had "visions" and "encounters" of jesus christ or God and turns out to be wrong and also did you experience an physical/objective encounter with this jesus christ or was more of a fuzzy hallucinogenic kinda of experience
I think that all Christian students should go to a Christian school, especially if it’s operated by their denomination. I’m Catholic and I spent most of my time in Catholic schools. I did go to a public school for a couple years and it was fine, but Catholic schools are way better. I also went to a Catholic high school. No regrets whatsoever going to Catholic schools. I think you get a better education there, especially in this day and age and for the 2 years I went to a public school I’m glad I did it then and not now. I wouldn’t want to do it now and I wouldn’t want my future kids to go there either.
My Catholic male-only high school had a note in its alumni newsletter congratulating a classmate on "marrying" his boyfriend.
@@jdotoz That’s a shame. Unfortunately not every school is perfect, but some our better than others. I went to a Co Ed High School, which in my opinion is better than an all male or all female school, especially these days.
Considering driving truck for the rest of my life so my wife can homeschool. Voddie Baucham has a good speech/sermon abou the whole subject. It’s your obligation as a Christian to give your child a Christian education.
I'm 16, christian and going to a public school. I don't want anything to do with the degenerate garbage I hear constantly but it's because I have a framework to figure out what degeneracy is in the first place. Ultimately I think it's up to parents to give them that framework and good reasons to believe, and if they have that they should be fine. I definitely agree that we should expose ourselves to opposing views, if I didn't expose myself to atheist talking points I wouldn't know what's wrong with them for example
Great video! My son is going to a christian school right now. He finished kindergarten and is now in the first grade. I definitely think he needs some exposure to the outside world as he gets older, but I want him to learn the foundations of Christianity first. I need to do my part at home also.
I did all forms of schooling. Public, private, homeschool, and some traveling. It helped me expand my perspective and I think out of all of them I preferred traveling. If you can’t do that I suggest homeschooling. My least favorite was probably private school despite being religeous. You can love God and still go to other places!
Tell you my experience which is different on many levels. First, most of my school years were spent in Ukraine till I moved to Spain in 2009. The school was private, just a standard, not Chtistian one. The majority denomination of Ukraine is Orthodox, and we had prists coming talking about religion. I remind you, it wasn't Orthodox Christian or else school. Then for some reasons we were going to local church to kiss icons instead of been studying ethics at Ethics class. Later we had a homeclass teacher/ literature teacher who preached that Orthodoxy is paramount even though we had a Lutheran guy as a classmate. Instead of literature we studied how religion and Bible were important in lives of the writers... God forbid show interest in other religions... We had few Satanists from a year above and she was furious. I am sure she would try to expell them if they weren't in their last year.
So I came to school as to some extent liberal Christian, maybe not devoted, but believing in God, end moved to another school at age of 14 as Atheist. I am 29 this month and my Atheist views got even stronger though years.
But hey, I am not here to fight. You do you. Sadly, from my experience overexposure and this overpreaching actually makes people go away from God. Maybe I wouldn't be Christian but I would still believe in God, but in the end I am an Atheist. And look, once again, for some reason Atheist don't try to convince or fight others over their worldview. But believers: Christian, Muslim, Jews would fight and quiet often kill over religion. (Another turn-off of religion actually)
I respect your point of view- but a lot of atheists DO in fact try to convince and attack others, mainly on the internet. I can't tell you how many times I've seen one in a comment section randomly harass people with 'God's not real', even if the video has nothing to do with religion. Also I believe Richard Dawkins, a prominent atheist, actively urged his cult to harass and mock religious people in general.
Humans, regardless of their worldview, can always find a way to hurt each other. It's not unique to any one group.
I went to a very diverse but good public high school with an IB program. We had a lot of Ethiopian immigrants, so learning about their church was actually pretty cool.
In my health class in 8th grade, the teacher did a true or false game where true was at one wall, and false was at the other wall. So basically you walk over to the side you think is true or false. And the questions were: "A transgender woman is still a woman." If you said false... it was over for you...
As a parent of 3 kids in their 20s, my advice is to actively discuss the fundamentals of your faith with your kids on a daily basis, and to teach your kids critical thinking skills. Do not rely on any school to teach critical thinking, and do not rely upon you church to properly teach the faith. There are some very terrible sunday school and church youth curricula!!! This would be a good topic for a video in the future, Redeemed Zoomer.
Hey Redeemed Zoomer, could you do a video on Mary being a perpetual virgin. I always found this claim to be a bit strange, yet the orthodox, catholics, Lutherans and maybe calvanist hold the view that she remained a virgin throughout her life.
Even Zwingli maintained that Mary was perpetually a virgin. No one disputed this view with any seriousness until the Great Awakening.
She had other children with Joseph, like James. It’s Jewish custom to marry early and to have as many children as possible
@@wild_burn Those were his stepbrothers, Baptist. Joseph was significantly older than Mary, as attested by the fact he died before even Jesus did, and would have been married before.
@@seantolson6223 what is your source that Joseph was significantly older than Mary.
@@dewaldt8104 I literally just stated a reason to believe that. Read it again.
i went to public school up until this year. going to catholic school was one of the best choices me and my parents have made. public school isn’t terrible but christian is much better.
If I hear "it used to be different" one more FUCKING time I'm bouta crashout
It’s way better where I live now than where I used to live.
I’m in a Christian middle school rn, but next year I’ll be in a public high school. Hopefully I’ll survive
you will dw abt it. just dont do drugs dont fight and dont fall victim to lust. only hope the best for you 👍
You will by God's grace and love. Surround yourself with believers (church, small group, etc.) who support you in your walk with Christ.
I survived public school, in my country we dont have the option to be homeschooled
My kids are never touching a public school building
I was homeschooled my entire life, and have never attended a public school and personally even though i dont agree with everything he said i would to a large extent agree with his thoughts on homeschooling for quality. One of the main reasons my mother decided to homeschool us was so that we could all learn at our own paces, i ended up being very ahead in reading and i enjoyed reading a lot and even now (although my mom was really concerned when 8 yr old me would ask for a middle school text book to read for fun lol) and being in a position where i was able to read things that were on my level for school and not be stuck in a curriculum just because of my age was very helpful because i was average in some subjects and ahead in others so even though she let us focus on what interested us she also made sure that we were taught everything and that we knew it from a Christian perspective. I also think that it is important for kids to have some form of catechizing. I didnt grow up with that and even though my church has taught me a lot about the bible i am finding catechisms to be an extremely helpful tool for me as a teenager now, and wish that i grew up with it. So i do disagree with some of his points i definitely enjoyed hearing about this and i definitely agreed with these parts of this video🙂
Redeemed Zoomer, can you make a video on different Bible translations? You are no stranger to controversial subjects.
Also, use scaffolding instead of wood!!!!!!!
KJV ESV and NIV good. RSV, NASB, NJKV are fine too. NRSV, NABRE, are ok but have a couple sus stuff. NLT, MSG, and any other "translation" that are just paraphrases are not good. Then there's heretical translations like the jehovas witness and Mormon Bible.
It really just depends on the school and the area, I go to a public school in Indiana and it seems fairly unbiased except some of the teachers you can tell are conservative. Also I have never had religion challenged at public school
I currently attend a public school in semi-rural Indiana. If you are not taking any nationally standardized classes, what is taught is very unbiased and it only displays just the facts. However, if you are like me and are taking several AP classes, you will notice a heavy bias towards certain political beliefs. As a result of these political beliefs being taught, there tends to be quite a lot of anti-Christian rhetoric, specifically in History class. Taking APUSH is just my teacher dissing on Christians for 45 minutes.
As a Vietnamese, I am very suprised by how much flak public schools have in the US. Here in Vietnam, for much of my life, private schools as been the byword for failure. It was a pay-to-(not-even)win versus hard work, basically. Now private schools are radically catching up, but the best resources and personnels are still dominated by public institutions for the most parts.
I knew one girl who was homeschooled but went to my high school for a few subjects like and other electives. I'm probably going to consider a hybrid solution for my kids. I was bored throughout school and doing a few classes self paced might have been a better option.
The issue is that parents are not raising thier children. They allow the school system to mould their children. If someone is homeschooling then there is a higher chance that they are the ones raising their kids.
My Dad allowed my siblings to go public school for until middle school, then we were homeschooled.
In England we have church funded schools which are just as easy to get into as state schools and the only difference is that it’s more Christian focused. It was amazing you get good Anglican theology and you’re surrounded with people who grew up in the same neighbourhood as you.
My main spiritual leader at the moment did not want to send her son to public school. But then she felt God telling her to do so anyway, because there is a mission field there. How can we reform the school back to the healthy teachings, if there are no parents or family to be an example?
This is in Norway though, I have a feeling it is still less of a problem her than in the US.
as a homeschooled teenager, ive went through public school from 3-13 and i learnt worldly things amongst that, ive never been a christian until a year ago. I found Christ through the struggles and became homeschooled. I still expose myself to atheist arguments whilst also learning. There can always be balance.
I was in public school my whole life, graduated in 2018 and I'm glad I went to public school. Granted, I went to school in the south, so generally less liberal than northern states. For the most part, I never got opposition based on my faith from teachers, it was mostly other students. I learned a lot about living at peace with my friends and other students who did not share my beliefs and when to push back and stand up for myself. If I encountered something that went against my beliefs, I spoke with my parents about it and we discussed it. Because of my parent's parenting style and being in public schools, I never felt sheltered to a fault and I was able to develop a faith that was my own, because I had to learn how to critically analyze my faith when surrounded by a lot of unchristian behavior. I was also aware that to a lot of my friends, I was their only exposure to God and Christianity, so I had to learn to hold myself to a higher standard and show them Christ through my actions and speech. In my opinion, the devil wants Christian influence out of the public school as much as possible, and we're doing it for him by convincing ourselves that the public schools will corrupt our children and they have to be isolated away from the world.
In the bible belt we partied on Friday/Sat night and went to church on Sunday morning and prayed for forgiveness.
I and all my siblings were homeschooled for most of our lives (and we all loved it and learned well). My little sister attended a Christian school from Year 9 to Year 12 so she could do VCE (basically like a high school diploma in my state). In Australia, Christian schools have a reputation for providing a good education - not necessarily as good as a grammar school or some well-known private schools, but definitely better than public schools. While there is generally an expectation that students are Christians, many non-Christian parents want to send their children to Christian schools because the education quality is good. So there will be students that have no interest in Christianity, including some that outright hate it. One of these attempted to bully my sister for a while (because bullying is still a thing in Christian schools), which is a story in itself, but even in a Christian school my sister was not sheltered from her faith being challenged. I think her experience at that school, both the good and the bad, was a part of her journey to professing her faith a few years later.
That said, I think the reality of teenagers and young adults "jumping ship" from their Christian upbringing is INDIRECTLY linked to Christian schools. You make a very good point about the kind of teaching that has to shoehorn the most basic common denominator "sermon" into every class, and that has some responsibility. Expanding on what you said about parents, I think parents need to still have an attitude of raising their children, not just letting schools do it and assuming it will be a solved problem. In my state, the government is mandating more and more about education from daycare to TAFE and university, even in private and Christian schools, so now more than ever, Christian parents NEED to step up and teach their children about the faith, but also to love learning. That is how we will be able to break down the image that Christians are not intellectual, or that faith and science are mutually exclusive, and that is how we will save our children.
I thought public schools were a joke when I was there, but they’re absolutely horrendous now
I spent 12 yrs in the public education system as someone on the Spectrum. Let's just say there's good and bad, but didn't abandon my set of principles from an early age to this day.
Public schools in general are just bad and don't pay teachers that much, that is why I plan to teach in private schooling once I get my Bachelors Degree in History.
Looking back I'm glad I went to a scientific school in Continental Europe where faith wasn't discussed because over 90% were Atheists. But later British University shocked me with their low standards and disregard for scientific truth.
I graduated high school 2 years ago but I personally decided to switch to online homeschool for my last 2 years. Best decision I’ve made. I don’t live in the best area. Not the worst, but definitely not the best, so hs was awful. I was pretty much one of the only students who did not do weed or any other drug. I felt like an outcast because of this. My friends started getting into that so I distanced myself from them and basically had no friends. When I switched to online school, I stopped seeing all of that. I did not have to be in that environment to start with. Homeschool for my hypothetical future kids it is.
I actually am part of a Classical education expiriment at a university, Catholic Studies at Umary if your curious.