some how this made me want the Nubis! when i was all focused on the MT48 black....you gotta always offer a black version
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I'm using the Merging Anubis because of the SoundID Reference option for my headphones (Neumann NDH20). I would love to have the USB-c plug & play connectivity of the MT 48. But without the SoundID Reference feature it makes no sense for me. Funny that this great feature isn't mentioned in the video at all.
The aluminium enclosure of the MT 48 already serves as a heat sink. The fan is merely a safety measure to keep the electronics from overheating, if the room temperature is unusually high. You can set the Fan Mode to Low, which is the default. In this setting the fan is inaudible except in very hot environments.😊
@@YesItsReallyKeith keep an eye on the temperature on the display. Play the audio and check it. The fan is to make sure the overall PCB plus electronics do not go over the operational temperature in addition to the fan. Both work together Let me know what temperature it reaches I can give you another tip that works for me nicely
@@bryandimaio9704isn’t release yet, but probably it won’t… but since each output can now have 24 eq bands and delay, won’t be a problem to calibrate any speaker… you can even export your sonarworks measurements to mtrx 16ch eq band, and enter manually the settings 😅
No, it does not. For DSP-equipped Neumann speakers, we developed MA 1 Automatic Monitor alignment. This is an integrated solution with a calibrated measurement microphone and novel algorithms, including room mode detection. We’re convinced that this is the best solution available. For studio monitors that cannot be used with MA 1 (i.e. any 3rd party loudspeakers and analog KH-line loudspeakers without a KH 750 DSP subwoofer), you can use Bus EQ to counteract any room coloration. The MT 48 features a high precision fully parametric 4-band equalizer for each output pair. Click on MIX 1/2/3/4 in the upper right-hand corner of the touch display and select BUS EQ. For measuring the response at your listening position, you could for example use the REW software.
@@ericlee5935The MT48 only provides 4 Bands of EQ, while The Anubis has 16 Bands. Way more accurate device. Unfortunately, my MT48 broke yesterday and switched off, have to send it back for repair...😢
I have the Anubis premium version along with the Hapi..I am always blown away by the clarity of the A/D and D/A converters… Pyramix is my DAW of choice for mastering duties….
Hybrid…….D/A playback through my converters based on the material… My D/A playback could be utilizing the Cranesong HEDD, Lavry D/A, Hapi, etc…. Then the analog chain, recapture using the merging products at 11.2…..
The Anubis Monitoring Mission could support from 5.1 (using the headphone output) and up to 32 output (using AoIP). Each output is provided with bass management, Trim,Delay'EQ. (including both headphone output)
I use the MT 48 in full network POE or power over ethernet mode with Merging Technologies' audio driver called MAD. To setup my KH120 II aes67's along with the MA1 monitor alignment software. I can say that it was the biggest step up in the quality of audio I produce however, to attain that wasn't an easy feat it was a very steep learning curve. I had to buy a Netgear M2450 network switch and figure out the routing in ANEMAN, Merging Technologies' audio control panel which Neumann Support helped out and made it a reality. The result is much more accurate monitoring compared to my old setup. There is a time to make an upgrade according to how much you value your music and if you are ready to step up a notch. However, they should have made it DSD DXD compatible because that was the thing I had to learn when I downloaded a trial version of Pyramix. In this particular area of music technology as far as a home musician is concerned I'd go for it. But if you are trying to be a full fledged mastering engineer I'd try acquiring Merging Technologies' HAPI or HORUS interface that has the DSD, DXD in order to get the best sounding master.
Owning a KH 310 I can say that Neumann is a pro company, for pros. As for these two products, no doubt they shall be excellent. And they are very much the same, with some minor differences as presented. However, the missed SoundID implementation on MT 48 is a dead-end now, and refers to compromises. Pretty much a missing option for home studio owners who might need a soundcard that can store room/monitor calibration profile on monitor output. That’s a big disadvantage… especially if it was made in mind of traveller musicians who could benefit from this feature on the go… even if it temporary disables e.g. preamp options on DSP. Recording vs. mixing stage, right?
Thank you for the video. These interfaces are truly a technological marvel and amazing value when you consider the versatility, design and workflow. The average musician/ modest studio will likely go for the MT48 just for the simplicity of USB. However one important question with respect to these units might not be how they compare now, but how will they differ in software expansion 2-5 years from now. Right now the Anubis is further ahead in terms of software development offering more effect add-ons (ex. Eventide black hole reverb) and missions compared to the MT48, but maybe the MT48 will have more attractive plugins in the years to come. Will we buy one unit only to have the other unit offer a software expansion that we really want or need next year? The redundancy between the two units creates purchase ambiguity. I feel like there needs to be a merging (pun intended) of software development between the units which maximizes add-on sales with third party plugins for both units and the difference between them should remain at the hardware level. The anubus should maintain the higher sample rates, DSD and perhaps have exclusive use of ravenna/ dante while the Neumann appeals more to the average studio/ musician via USB-C.
Hello, AES67 and SPDIF are two different configurations. But AES67 can certainly implement SPDIF. You can install the AES67 driver for MT48 (MAD for Windows, VAD for Mac), and use the Aneman software to route signal through the MT48’s SPDIF/ADAT port.😊
00:02:04 In conclusion with all the upgrades made for MT48 and the new multichannel monitor mission now the Neumann beats Anubis with 8 more in/out provided by ADAT which is a great plus not only for home studio as mentioned in this video. I can easily give up the network redundancy for the 8 ADAT I/O.
One Big down side to the MT 48 and the NUBIS, is that we can not bypass the preamps on all 4 inputs, therefore we always getting the color of preamps, so technically speaking, we still do not know how the AD conversion is on both of this units unless we purchase another Neumann/Nubis converter, just to have the direct line input straight into the AD. I know we have ADAT, AES67, DANTE does not help because that means spending tons of money again to hear AD with no preamps, something like the HAPI etc. Can you please help clarify. The D/A on the MT48 is incredible, so when you run some test and capture the signal through all 4 inputs, you can hear the difference.
That's what the Merging Happi is intended to be. The Anubis was designed to be a more portable version of the Happi, with the idea that TV/Film production could be taken into the field. Almost a SoundDesigns competitor of sorts. Will be interesting to see if Neumann reworks that product, as it is very modular and quite expensive. But I know the audio guys working with the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra use both Happi and Anubis interfaces for handling concert recordings and live streaming of concerts. They invested in numerous channels (maybe about 90?) to handle all the mics they use.
@GeorgNeumannGmbH could you demonstrate using the MT48 monitor mission EQ screen in action, as none of the MT48 video reviews on the web are new enough to show it. I would like to see how it compares to using the music mission EQ screen (which I'm familiar with already). Thanks
The specifications for each are clearly listed everywhere, and there are multiple differences, some of which are highlighted in this short video. Why whine about having two choices that each offer different options for your needs?
Hello. Could you explain how I could mix a drumset with the Anubis or MT48 ? I understand there are only 4 analog inputs, and for a drumset I'd estimate needing about 8 to 10 inputs, how can I make this work ? I guess I have to use the digital interfaces to import my drum channels and mix them, but what's connected to all the drum mics then, in this scenario ?
Thank you for your interest on the Anubis and MT 48! There would be two possibilities to expand today. Using the MT 48 ADAT IO interface If you have an interface that has ADAT support with some preamps you can connect this one to the MT 48 and then 8 of those channels can be mixed and recorded from the MT 48. Meaning that we also provide on your ADAT drums channels all the needed effects such as EQ, Dynamics (Compression, Gate, Limiter) and Reverb on every channel. Then a Personal Cue Mix can even be sent back to your ADAT interface and monitored from there, all this in ultra-low latency. While the recorded signal goes to your DAW for recording in USB or AoIP as you wish here. Expanding via AoIP (RAVENNA/AES67 network port), supported by either MT 48 or Anubis To expand this way we recommend using our Merging Hapi MkII interface, the Hapi AD modules uses similar preamps topology than the MT 48 / Anubis, it can also be very easily integrated with our Peering technology via AoIP (RAVENNA/AES67), meaning that as soon as you connect the network port of the Hapi to the MT 48 or Anubis we detect it and can use and mix all the IO from the Hapi within the MT 48/Anubis, so once again we provide a ultra-low latency mix for your artist with all the effects you would need. Even better this can work in full standalone operation meaning that we do not rely on the PC or Mac DAW to run and your artists can still rehearse with their CUE. For more help on this please contact our support team via www.neumann.com/en-gb/contact/
The MT48’s AES67 network port can be used for connection to computers and AES67 devices in general. If you want to set up AES67 connections with MT48, please follow these guidelines: zingtree.com/live/887759503#2
Hi there! The MT48 is essentially a mixer with four separate busses (physical output pairs.). For example, Monitor A is Mix 1, Monitor B Mix 2, Headphone 1 is Mix3, and Headphone 2 is Mix 4. The trick for Loopback recording is to go to Menu > Settings > USB IO on the MT48 and enable the Bus Return Mix option for the monitor mix you are using/set to. This enables a USB Input Channel stream you’d set on your recording software. This routes the playback from one (through the DAW1 Channel most likely) in through another software when set to the according USB channel stream input.
You can, Merging Pyramix DAW exports in DSD, the only one that does this to my knowledge. That's tough though as it's monobit, so it doesn't take multithreading, so you have to record perfectly and use very few plugins in order to not use much of the few CPU horsepower you have.
Thanks, I'll have to research that more to understand the limitations. I have a Tascam hardware dsd recorder and love it, but yeah it's one live take and done, of course.
We've already done this in our FAQs on the MT 48, but as we were still getting questions about it, we thought we'd make a video.😁 Find the FAQ here: zingtree.com/live/887759503#2
I'll take the MT48, with the ANUBIS black shell please. Anubis is such a cool name... For musicians too... But at least black. I hope there will be a black version. I just worked hard to make my mobile rig totally blacked out... And then this champagne thing comes around. Sure, sound and function should be of chief importance, but dealing with the artist crowd, their Feng shui comes into play. I thought about buying both and swapping the shells, but the ports are different. :/
Tried one for a couple Of weeks . And it does not sound great at all! The Apollo is far far far superior in so many ways it a bit laughable to be fair It may look better on paper but in use very disappointed
Totally disagree. I did a one-week side-by-side with my Apollo and really preferred the sound of the MT-48 for the mic pre-amps, the converters, and the headphone amps. Even beats the vaunted SABRE-32s from the most expensive Mark of the Unicorn interfaces. Keeping the MT-48 for sure.
which one did you try? which Apollo exactly and what kind of productions do you work on and what is your background and experience and years at it? and what exactly you see that is not the same quality can you please elaborate on which ways you think it is superior with the one you considered to be the most critical? thank you
Not the first time I’ve heard this. It’s very interesting. As far as the mic pres from the examples I’ve heard, the Apollo is a bit more airy and it seems the Neumann is stifling the high frequencies a bit.
this is great and all...but shoutout to whoever is operating the camera, lighting the scene, and color grading this footage lol. its so good
You wouldn’t happen to maybe be that person, would you?
I kid you not, I thought the same thing as you, Brandon!
Thank you @BrandonWells, that was us =)
some how this made me want the Nubis! when i was all focused on the MT48
black....you gotta always offer a black version
I'm using the Merging Anubis because of the SoundID Reference option for my headphones (Neumann NDH20). I would love to have the USB-c plug & play connectivity of the MT 48. But without the SoundID Reference feature it makes no sense for me. Funny that this great feature isn't mentioned in the video at all.
Just bought one yesterday, looking forward to exploring its capabilities soon!
I have mine and I couldn't be happier, thanks Neuman
hi, are the holes on the sides fans or just a vent with no fan ? and if it's a fan, how noisy is it ? thanks
The aluminium enclosure of the MT 48 already serves as a heat sink. The fan is merely a safety measure to keep the electronics from overheating, if the room temperature is unusually high. You can set the Fan Mode to Low, which is the default. In this setting the fan is inaudible except in very hot environments.😊
@@YesItsReallyKeith keep an eye on the temperature on the display. Play the audio and check it. The fan is to make sure the overall PCB plus electronics do not go over the operational temperature in addition to the fan. Both work together
Let me know what temperature it reaches
I can give you another tip that works for me nicely
thanks for the replies guys !! appreciate it !!cheers !!!
Please allow Sonarworks Sound ID Room correction to run on the mt48
I thought it can now that it has Monitor Missions?
@@bryandimaio9704isn’t release yet, but probably it won’t… but since each output can now have 24 eq bands and delay, won’t be a problem to calibrate any speaker… you can even export your sonarworks measurements to mtrx 16ch eq band, and enter manually the settings 😅
No, it does not. For DSP-equipped Neumann speakers, we developed MA 1 Automatic Monitor alignment. This is an integrated solution with a calibrated measurement microphone and novel algorithms, including room mode detection. We’re convinced that this is the best solution available.
For studio monitors that cannot be used with MA 1 (i.e. any 3rd party loudspeakers and analog KH-line loudspeakers without a KH 750 DSP subwoofer), you can use Bus EQ to counteract any room coloration. The MT 48 features a high precision fully parametric 4-band equalizer for each output pair. Click on MIX 1/2/3/4 in the upper right-hand corner of the touch display and select BUS EQ. For measuring the response at your listening position, you could for example use the REW software.
@@ericlee5935The MT48 only provides 4 Bands of EQ, while The Anubis has 16 Bands. Way more accurate device.
Unfortunately, my MT48 broke yesterday and switched off, have to send it back for repair...😢
@@GeorgNeumannGmbHBut why not include Soundworks when it performs so well in the Anubis? People like choices on board.
I have the Anubis premium version along with the Hapi..I am always blown away by the clarity of the A/D and D/A converters… Pyramix is my DAW of choice for mastering duties….
In the box or a hybrid? If hybrid can you do DA DA chain ?
Hybrid…….D/A playback through my converters based on the material… My D/A playback could be utilizing the Cranesong HEDD, Lavry D/A, Hapi, etc…. Then the analog chain, recapture using the merging products at 11.2…..
@@mrwoo40 that's a top notch ser up ...can you do DA AD 32 but translation with the Anubis and the Hapi?
The Anubis Monitoring Mission could support from 5.1 (using the headphone output) and up to 32 output (using AoIP).
Each output is provided with bass management, Trim,Delay'EQ. (including both headphone output)
Im sorry for the off topic, but the videography and the color work of that production is just amazing. Can I see the backstage somewhere? Thank you.
Thanks to instagram.com/tellsomemoreproduction/ 🧡
WOW!! The MT 48 looks soooo awesome!! I hope to one day be able to afford one.
Thanks Georg!!!!
Love my MT-48.
I use the MT 48 in full network POE or power over ethernet mode with Merging Technologies' audio driver called MAD. To setup my KH120 II aes67's along with the MA1 monitor alignment software. I can say that it was the biggest step up in the quality of audio I produce however, to attain that wasn't an easy feat it was a very steep learning curve. I had to buy a Netgear M2450 network switch and figure out the routing in ANEMAN, Merging Technologies' audio control panel which Neumann Support helped out and made it a reality. The result is much more accurate monitoring compared to my old setup. There is a time to make an upgrade according to how much you value your music and if you are ready to step up a notch. However, they should have made it DSD DXD compatible because that was the thing I had to learn when I downloaded a trial version of Pyramix. In this particular area of music technology as far as a home musician is concerned I'd go for it. But if you are trying to be a full fledged mastering engineer I'd try acquiring Merging Technologies' HAPI or HORUS interface that has the DSD, DXD in order to get the best sounding master.
Owning a KH 310 I can say that Neumann is a pro company, for pros.
As for these two products, no doubt they shall be excellent. And they are very much the same, with some minor differences as presented. However, the missed SoundID implementation on MT 48 is a dead-end now, and refers to compromises. Pretty much a missing option for home studio owners who might need a soundcard that can store room/monitor calibration profile on monitor output. That’s a big disadvantage… especially if it was made in mind of traveller musicians who could benefit from this feature on the go… even if it temporary disables e.g. preamp options on DSP. Recording vs. mixing stage, right?
The new monitor mission and the built in eq it’s a power lil beast.
Thank you for the video. These interfaces are truly a technological marvel and amazing value when you consider the versatility, design and workflow. The average musician/ modest studio will likely go for the MT48 just for the simplicity of USB. However one important question with respect to these units might not be how they compare now, but how will they differ in software expansion 2-5 years from now. Right now the Anubis is further ahead in terms of software development offering more effect add-ons (ex. Eventide black hole reverb) and missions compared to the MT48, but maybe the MT48 will have more attractive plugins in the years to come. Will we buy one unit only to have the other unit offer a software expansion that we really want or need next year? The redundancy between the two units creates purchase ambiguity. I feel like there needs to be a merging (pun intended) of software development between the units which maximizes add-on sales with third party plugins for both units and the difference between them should remain at the hardware level. The anubus should maintain the higher sample rates, DSD and perhaps have exclusive use of ravenna/ dante while the Neumann appeals more to the average studio/ musician via USB-C.
Thank you very much for your honest opinion. We really appreciate feedback from the community and will forward your message to our development team.🧡
Can the AES67 output connection of the MT-48
be configured to send a S/PDIF stereo mix to monitor loudspeakers?
Hello, AES67 and SPDIF are two different configurations. But AES67 can certainly implement SPDIF.
You can install the AES67 driver for MT48 (MAD for Windows, VAD for Mac), and use the Aneman software to route signal through the MT48’s SPDIF/ADAT port.😊
00:02:04 In conclusion with all the upgrades made for MT48 and the new multichannel monitor mission now the Neumann beats Anubis with 8 more in/out provided by ADAT which is a great plus not only for home studio as mentioned in this video. I can easily give up the network redundancy for the 8 ADAT I/O.
One Big down side to the MT 48 and the NUBIS, is that we can not bypass the preamps on all 4 inputs, therefore we always getting the color of preamps, so technically speaking, we still do not know how the AD conversion is on both of this units unless we purchase another Neumann/Nubis converter, just to have the direct line input straight into the AD. I know we have ADAT, AES67, DANTE does not help because that means spending tons of money again to hear AD with no preamps, something like the HAPI etc. Can you please help clarify. The D/A on the MT48 is incredible, so when you run some test and capture the signal through all 4 inputs, you can hear the difference.
I have both interfaces. It's all very good equipment. It's just that the driver isn't perfect yet. Needs to be relinked to work properly.
Please release the MT48 in Black.
I love my MT 48❤
Can we expect a rack version for pro use?
That's what the Merging Happi is intended to be. The Anubis was designed to be a more portable version of the Happi, with the idea that TV/Film production could be taken into the field. Almost a SoundDesigns competitor of sorts. Will be interesting to see if Neumann reworks that product, as it is very modular and quite expensive. But I know the audio guys working with the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra use both Happi and Anubis interfaces for handling concert recordings and live streaming of concerts. They invested in numerous channels (maybe about 90?) to handle all the mics they use.
Love m y mt48 it will get hot but its normal the headphone pre is out of this world%100 quality can’t compare.
@GeorgNeumannGmbH could you demonstrate using the MT48 monitor mission EQ screen in action, as none of the MT48 video reviews on the web are new enough to show it. I would like to see how it compares to using the music mission EQ screen (which I'm familiar with already). Thanks
Already in the making!😁
oh interesting to see neumann debunking claims of rehashing a product
The specifications for each are clearly listed everywhere, and there are multiple differences, some of which are highlighted in this short video. Why whine about having two choices that each offer different options for your needs?
i see clemens, i like the video!
Concise
Hello.
Could you explain how I could mix a drumset with the Anubis or MT48 ?
I understand there are only 4 analog inputs, and for a drumset I'd estimate needing about 8 to 10 inputs, how can I make this work ?
I guess I have to use the digital interfaces to import my drum channels and mix them, but what's connected to all the drum mics then, in this scenario ?
Thank you for your interest on the Anubis and MT 48! There would be two possibilities to expand today.
Using the MT 48 ADAT IO interface
If you have an interface that has ADAT support with some preamps you can connect this one to the MT 48 and then 8 of those channels can be mixed and recorded from the MT 48.
Meaning that we also provide on your ADAT drums channels all the needed effects such as EQ, Dynamics (Compression, Gate, Limiter) and Reverb on every channel. Then a Personal Cue Mix can even be sent back to your ADAT interface and monitored from there, all this in ultra-low latency. While the recorded signal goes to your DAW for recording in USB or AoIP as you wish here.
Expanding via AoIP (RAVENNA/AES67 network port), supported by either MT 48 or Anubis
To expand this way we recommend using our Merging Hapi MkII interface, the Hapi AD modules uses similar preamps topology than the MT 48 / Anubis, it can also be very easily integrated with our Peering technology via AoIP (RAVENNA/AES67), meaning that as soon as you connect the network port of the Hapi to the MT 48 or Anubis we detect it and can use and mix all the IO from the Hapi within the MT 48/Anubis, so once again we provide a ultra-low latency mix for your artist with all the effects you would need. Even better this can work in full standalone operation meaning that we do not rely on the PC or Mac DAW to run and your artists can still rehearse with their CUE.
For more help on this please contact our support team via www.neumann.com/en-gb/contact/
Can we use the mt48 directly with the aes67 speakers to set up a dolby atmos without the need for an extern converter?
yes
The MT48’s AES67 network port can be used for connection to computers and AES67 devices in general. If you want to set up AES67 connections with MT48, please follow these guidelines: zingtree.com/live/887759503#2
Hi Neumman, do you know how to setup loopback in MT48 for OBS from my DAW? I can't get it, even though you say MT48 has loopback function
Hi there! The MT48 is essentially a mixer with four separate busses (physical output pairs.). For example, Monitor A is Mix 1, Monitor B Mix 2, Headphone 1 is Mix3, and Headphone 2 is Mix 4.
The trick for Loopback recording is to go to Menu > Settings > USB IO on the MT48 and enable the Bus Return Mix option for the monitor mix you are using/set to. This enables a USB Input Channel stream you’d set on your recording software. This routes the playback from one (through the DAW1 Channel most likely) in through another software when set to the according USB channel stream input.
so they re-released a interface with a few new 'additions' from 2020. gotcha
DSD is awesome, but what's the point if you can't work with it in a daw, and monitors use pcm dsp, etc.?
You can, Merging Pyramix DAW exports in DSD, the only one that does this to my knowledge. That's tough though as it's monobit, so it doesn't take multithreading, so you have to record perfectly and use very few plugins in order to not use much of the few CPU horsepower you have.
Thanks, I'll have to research that more to understand the limitations. I have a Tascam hardware dsd recorder and love it, but yeah it's one live take and done, of course.
Can you just list the differences ?
We've already done this in our FAQs on the MT 48, but as we were still getting questions about it, we thought we'd make a video.😁
Find the FAQ here: zingtree.com/live/887759503#2
I hope Santas give me the MT48 this December...
no XLR AES or midi, no DA->AD with dual outs for mastering
I believe the Neumann is 24-bit, not 32-bit like the Anubis
Could you please let me know if the MT48 is manufactured in Germany or the EU? Thanks.
Hello, the MT 48 is produced inside the EU.
How can I connect to OBS studio?
The MT48 and the Anubis used a dedicated driver that could be access by any external software.
Anubis for touring and professional techs and Neumann for dudes at home who don't know what an Aux is 😂😂😂
Merging Technologies SOLD their soul.
nah, neumann is an extremely solid company
I'll take the MT48, with the ANUBIS black shell please. Anubis is such a cool name... For musicians too... But at least black. I hope there will be a black version. I just worked hard to make my mobile rig totally blacked out... And then this champagne thing comes around.
Sure, sound and function should be of chief importance, but dealing with the artist crowd, their Feng shui comes into play.
I thought about buying both and swapping the shells, but the ports are different. :/
4x??? That’s 🧢
Anubis in another league to the Neumann. Mastering grade sound compared to very average.
Aren't the converter and preamps supposed to be the same on Anubis and MT48?
Yes, the MT48 uses the same converters as the Merging Anubis.😊
Tried one for a couple
Of weeks . And it does not sound great at all!
The Apollo is far far far superior in so many ways it a bit laughable to be fair
It may look better on paper but in use very disappointed
Totally disagree. I did a one-week side-by-side with my Apollo and really preferred the sound of the MT-48 for the mic pre-amps, the converters, and the headphone amps. Even beats the vaunted SABRE-32s from the most expensive Mark of the Unicorn interfaces. Keeping the MT-48 for sure.
Apollo sweeps the floor with this. Anubis came out like 6 years ago. How are those ad converters new? Or better? Insert placebo here
funny what you said make you like a joker
which one did you try? which Apollo exactly and what kind of productions do you work on and what is your background and experience and years at it? and what exactly you see that is not the same quality can you please elaborate on which ways you think it is superior with the one you considered to be the most critical? thank you
Not the first time I’ve heard this. It’s very interesting. As far as the mic pres from the examples I’ve heard, the Apollo is a bit more airy and it seems the Neumann is stifling the high frequencies a bit.