The reason Nuzzle did 54% is because of the mechanics of terastalization If you use a move that's below 60 base power and it matches the Tera Type you're using then it'll be raised to base 60 Power So that Nuzzle was base 60 Power due to Pawmot being Terastalized into Electric
That seems wrong. Torkoal took 20 % from a single Arm Thrust through Reflect and x0.67 Atk. Having Electro Ball as an item makes much more sense in combination with Agility.
It's always great when Pokevin posts content other than randbats, I love seeing how his playstyle changes up (Ex. The only Gen "___" teams before Gen 9 randoms were out)
I didn't know there was such a crazy version of Pokemon battle in showdown. Obviously a refreshing change and I DEFINITELY loved watching you play it! The combination of your particular style of battling + Such an interesting format... You made my day!!!
The most broken ones that I found was azumarill drain kiss it's 75% lifesteal it heals so much, and iron hands heavy slam, arm thrust basically 2 shots everything
I think you should use Absorb as an item for volcarona as it will make you able to use the same Volcarona but with Giga Drain (which give Volcarona more couverage than bug buzz)
Freeze dry is genius! Normally bax doesn’t get much use from freeze dry because it’s a special move, but I never would’ve thought of using it in fortemons!
Moves I think would be good: Fell Stinger Salt Cure Ceasless Edge Any move with a flinch chance + multihits Taunt ( If it works) Acrobatics Venoshock Ancient Power Trailblaze Nuzzle Sucker Punch (if it works like that) Snarl/Spirit break I hope most of these arent banned
@@walaceandrade4046there's a poison move that lowers a lot one of the defenses, and I don't know who it is and what defense does it lower, but if we got to make an attacking move taking out one defense harshly and the other move does it as well it'd be insane Do we have one for attack?
Just tried that Tsareena, shit is crazy... Tera Grass Bullet Seed Koed Volcarona with its 2 hits, yes 50% each. Run some Scarf to outrun it or Rocky Helmet to Revenge it guys.
So fortemons basically means a pokemons item is switched out for one of its moves effects like for giga drain hp back or whirlpool trapping the opponent. Do you need these moves on the Pokémon to have the effect or not like you can have flower tricks crit rate without running flower trick
I included a photo in the first seconds of the video, you can put a move in the item slot of the pokemon (so if you put a move you have no item) and all of your attacking moves will gain that secondary effect
On Volcarona yes, it's a special attack, it also provides good coverage... in the item slot they should be the same, probably better to have giga drain or absorb because they don't make contact and I'm unsure about how that works
@@Sylviks counter argument: flame body triggers on body press avalugg's surf. it seems that if the "item" is a contact move, all moves will make contact.
@@cinnamoone3553 But isn’t body press specifically based on defense, i.e wouldn’t it do dmg physically because it’s damage is based on defense. Why can’t we take an example from two accounts and attack the same thing like 25 times each?
That Tsareena had me shook. That was awesome
Maybe Reversal Item
@@eryenmachado6131 banned
They had a Hippowdon with it for some reason. I hope it was Sand Force lol
Flail and reversal is banned now
@@blonk2908 what did flail do
Flare Blitz = 1/3 recoil
Bitter Blade = 1/2 health
Perfect
Self sustaining stab
Imperfectly balanced, as all thing should be
The reason Nuzzle did 54% is because of the mechanics of terastalization
If you use a move that's below 60 base power and it matches the Tera Type you're using then it'll be raised to base 60 Power
So that Nuzzle was base 60 Power due to Pawmot being Terastalized into Electric
That seems wrong. Torkoal took 20 % from a single Arm Thrust through Reflect and x0.67 Atk. Having Electro Ball as an item makes much more sense in combination with Agility.
@@melikmourali2072 the Tera power boost doesn't work on multi hit moves and priority moves
And yes it still had electro ball but just mentioning it doesn't work with those moves
that tsareena was amazing
It's always great when Pokevin posts content other than randbats, I love seeing how his playstyle changes up (Ex. The only Gen "___" teams before Gen 9 randoms were out)
I didn't know there was such a crazy version of Pokemon battle in showdown. Obviously a refreshing change and I DEFINITELY loved watching you play it!
The combination of your particular style of battling + Such an interesting format...
You made my day!!!
The most broken ones that I found was azumarill drain kiss it's 75% lifesteal it heals so much, and iron hands heavy slam, arm thrust basically 2 shots everything
It's an absolute unit
Ohhh you made a fortemons video! That’s so cool, and the bax is so genius
The strategies in this are utterly Ridiculous in the best ways
Yooo, congrats on 9k
Ty :)
Yw
you predicting walking wake’s tera was just pure gigachad energy
That's an average prediction for Pokevin
I think you should use Absorb as an item for volcarona as it will make you able to use the same Volcarona but with Giga Drain (which give Volcarona more couverage than bug buzz)
just run drain kiss
@@lechatgrincheux6381 does volcarona learn draining kiss?
nope
@@Pokevin oh i didnt knew it was only with the move the pokemons knows
@@huyminhha658 oh i didnt knew it was only with the move the pokemons knows
Best Pokemon Vid I've seen in a long time. Great vibes and structure
Your profile picture and music selection are awesome
thank you :)
this mode seems like a lot of fun
Freeze dry is genius! Normally bax doesn’t get much use from freeze dry because it’s a special move, but I never would’ve thought of using it in fortemons!
Moves I think would be good:
Fell Stinger
Salt Cure
Ceasless Edge
Any move with a flinch chance + multihits
Taunt ( If it works)
Acrobatics
Venoshock
Ancient Power
Trailblaze
Nuzzle
Sucker Punch (if it works like that)
Snarl/Spirit break
I hope most of these arent banned
id love to see you do more of this tier
Volcarona just got so much more busted
This tier is crazy
Can you use something like swords dance in the item slot?
Edit: thx to the guy answering my question
Only secondary effects
@@__shoe__ ohh ty
i think draining kiss would be good too!
Imagine parting shot as an ability. Just double parting shot a setup sweeper and they are worse if than they began.
I'm not sure it's a secondary effect. Is it not a primary effect?
Only attacking moves can be set as an item unfortunately.
@@walaceandrade4046there's a poison move that lowers a lot one of the defenses, and I don't know who it is and what defense does it lower, but if we got to make an attacking move taking out one defense harshly and the other move does it as well it'd be insane
Do we have one for attack?
I did avalanche bax with brave nature, 2x damage on every move
that's cool
The amount of creativity u need for OMs is amazing
That's crazy, but really funny 😂
Sadly it appears that I cannot put Bite on my Mausehold to relive the glory of King's Rock. Pity, this looked really cool
Other metagames are just getting better and better
Imagine Night Daze in the item slot
Item slot?
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy Whoopsie! Edited
Guys what would happen with Echoed voice..? *-*
I'm the guy you fought yesterday!
Just tried that Tsareena, shit is crazy... Tera Grass Bullet Seed Koed Volcarona with its 2 hits, yes 50% each.
Run some Scarf to outrun it or Rocky Helmet to Revenge it guys.
Imagine her getting dragon dance
This game mode is insane
IDK if it'd actually be viable, but a Magnezone "holding" Swift with unmissable Zap Cannons sounds like fun
I wonder what would happen with serene grace jirachi , flinching move “item” and iron head if that isn’t already banned lmao
I hear they ban flich move
Either flail or reversal
Tsareena doesn’t learn reversal
Try Heavy Slam Clodsire
Wow ima try this
Why does it say Gen 9 Random Battles (High Ladder) in the title? Also, Fortemons is awesome.
I use a preset for my titles and and I forgot to change that part
I kinda wana know what are the rules for fortemons, like can you just put any moves on the item slot or just attacking moves?
Smogon adds this but not nat dex doubles.
What about swift as an ability and a OHKO move?
It doesn’t work like that, also ohko moves are banned
@@Pokevin oh, okay
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Pursuit would be insane
its banned
Is it possible to give aqua jet to azu so that all moves have +1 priority
Nope, priorities in the item slot are banned
I Hope it stay all life
Now the question is: does acrobatics work?
I dont think you cant rid of your item if you set it up to be a move.
acrobatics should not work... if you look in battle your item is "Mail" (because it can't be knocked off)
That's busted
Question does last respects give extra power to any move depending on amount of Pokemon fainted if so , multi hit move plus arm thrust
I mean plus last respects
Idk, houndstone is banned so no last respects
Does it have to be a move the mon can learn in its item slot?
Yes
Fai rayquaza choise e poweup punch come efetto
Non posso dare uno strumento se c’è una mossa in quello slot, rayquaza non è in gen 9 e anche se ci fosse gli Uber sono bannati
So fortemons basically means a pokemons item is switched out for one of its moves effects like for giga drain hp back or whirlpool trapping the opponent. Do you need these moves on the Pokémon to have the effect or not like you can have flower tricks crit rate without running flower trick
I included a photo in the first seconds of the video, you can put a move in the item slot of the pokemon (so if you put a move you have no item) and all of your attacking moves will gain that secondary effect
i wonde If trailblaze Is forbidden:o i mean its basically Speed boost
edit: yeah i should wait until the Video was over
Challenge: Put gigaton hammer in the item slot.
Lol
what is this video description??? Are you ok sir??
Is Fissure good as a "item"?
what if you used multi-hit moves like bullet seed for an item?
Hitting multiple times is not a secondary effect
Well doing damage is the primary effect,
If you put an attack that cannot miss as an item, will all your attacks hit, or is it not really considered a secondary effect ?
The accuracy of a move is not a secondary effect, aerial ace doesn’t make all your moves hit either
@@Pokevin ok, thanks !
what mode is this?
Fortemons
What about like population bomb? I guess it is banned, but imagine hitting every move 10 times that do be ridiculous
it doesn't work like that, hitting multiple times is not a secondary effect
@@Pokevin Oh gotcha
Maybe a def drop as an item while attacking with Population Bomb? I tried Low Sweep on Breelom's Bullet Seed and the speed drop proc after each hit.
That Tsareena might be reversal
I included in the video it was Flail, Tsareena doesn't learn Reversal
Oh my bad
haha, fissure with a 100% accurate move go brrr.
can you use any move as an item or does it have to be a move that a given pokemon can actually learn?
It has to learn it
Ceruledge il più forte sempre detto
Poi, che qui abbia la passiva sbroccata è un altro discorso ma shhh
il video di oggi potrebbe farti contento :)
it says team in discription but i cant find the pokepaste
Oh yea, I forgot… I’m not home rn, I’ll put it there in some hours (I’ll also send it in the replies here)
@@Pokevin Thank you, loved the video, keep up the good work🤝
@@Pokevin all good, we all make mistakes.
Justo got home, here's the team: pokepast.es/47b244412049c1b3
@@Pokevin thanks again
What happens when the item is protect? Or wish? Like status moves? Or does it only effects attacking move with secondary effects?
i think you can only use non status move
Protecting / healing you is the primary effect, so they won’t do anything
what was that pawmot?
Probably electro ball… I included that in the video
Do priority moves work? That could be potentially busted
priorities in the item slot are banned
When everyone runs Helping Hands as an item if they know it
Is giga drain better than leech life?
On Volcarona yes, it's a special attack, it also provides good coverage... in the item slot they should be the same, probably better to have giga drain or absorb because they don't make contact and I'm unsure about how that works
@@Pokevin I think it’s based on the moveset whether or not it’s contact
@@Sylviks counter argument: flame body triggers on body press avalugg's surf. it seems that if the "item" is a contact move, all moves will make contact.
@@cinnamoone3553 But isn’t body press specifically based on defense, i.e wouldn’t it do dmg physically because it’s damage is based on defense. Why can’t we take an example from two accounts and attack the same thing like 25 times each?
@@Sylviks 4:22
is dire claw banned?
Sneasler is not in the game yet
@@Pokevin oh yeah lmao, I only play random battles so i forgot
Can't wait for triage (it's most likely to get banned lol
is it possible by status coup like items?
???
@@Pokevin can you put status moves as an item?
Status moves don't have a secondary effects, but you can do nuzzle
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