Fortemons is a Crazy Tier! (Pokemon Showdown)

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  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    That Tsareena had me shook. That was awesome

    • @eryenmachado6131
      @eryenmachado6131 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe Reversal Item

    • @squirtondisgedo
      @squirtondisgedo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@eryenmachado6131 banned

    • @melikmourali2072
      @melikmourali2072 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They had a Hippowdon with it for some reason. I hope it was Sand Force lol

    • @blonk2908
      @blonk2908 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Flail and reversal is banned now

    • @squirtondisgedo
      @squirtondisgedo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blonk2908 what did flail do

  • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
    @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Flare Blitz = 1/3 recoil
    Bitter Blade = 1/2 health
    Perfect

  • @renkohikawa7893
    @renkohikawa7893 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The reason Nuzzle did 54% is because of the mechanics of terastalization
    If you use a move that's below 60 base power and it matches the Tera Type you're using then it'll be raised to base 60 Power
    So that Nuzzle was base 60 Power due to Pawmot being Terastalized into Electric

    • @melikmourali2072
      @melikmourali2072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That seems wrong. Torkoal took 20 % from a single Arm Thrust through Reflect and x0.67 Atk. Having Electro Ball as an item makes much more sense in combination with Agility.

    • @justoag6763
      @justoag6763 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@melikmourali2072 the Tera power boost doesn't work on multi hit moves and priority moves

    • @justoag6763
      @justoag6763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And yes it still had electro ball but just mentioning it doesn't work with those moves

  • @knownevildoer
    @knownevildoer ปีที่แล้ว +13

    that tsareena was amazing

  • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
    @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy ปีที่แล้ว +27

    It's always great when Pokevin posts content other than randbats, I love seeing how his playstyle changes up (Ex. The only Gen "___" teams before Gen 9 randoms were out)

  • @rafidahmed1760
    @rafidahmed1760 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I didn't know there was such a crazy version of Pokemon battle in showdown. Obviously a refreshing change and I DEFINITELY loved watching you play it!
    The combination of your particular style of battling + Such an interesting format...
    You made my day!!!

  • @PedrovsaxD
    @PedrovsaxD ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The most broken ones that I found was azumarill drain kiss it's 75% lifesteal it heals so much, and iron hands heavy slam, arm thrust basically 2 shots everything

  • @sbsbsnamsnz
    @sbsbsnamsnz ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ohhh you made a fortemons video! That’s so cool, and the bax is so genius

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The strategies in this are utterly Ridiculous in the best ways

  • @somebodyrandomly
    @somebodyrandomly ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yooo, congrats on 9k

  • @StormGrind66
    @StormGrind66 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    you predicting walking wake’s tera was just pure gigachad energy

  • @huyminhha658
    @huyminhha658 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think you should use Absorb as an item for volcarona as it will make you able to use the same Volcarona but with Giga Drain (which give Volcarona more couverage than bug buzz)

    • @lechatgrincheux6381
      @lechatgrincheux6381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      just run drain kiss

    • @huyminhha658
      @huyminhha658 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lechatgrincheux6381 does volcarona learn draining kiss?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      nope

    • @lechatgrincheux6381
      @lechatgrincheux6381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pokevin oh i didnt knew it was only with the move the pokemons knows

    • @lechatgrincheux6381
      @lechatgrincheux6381 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@huyminhha658 oh i didnt knew it was only with the move the pokemons knows

  • @chrisrozier3123
    @chrisrozier3123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best Pokemon Vid I've seen in a long time. Great vibes and structure

  • @rayes119
    @rayes119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your profile picture and music selection are awesome

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you :)

  • @knownevildoer
    @knownevildoer ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this mode seems like a lot of fun

  • @crep50
    @crep50 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Freeze dry is genius! Normally bax doesn’t get much use from freeze dry because it’s a special move, but I never would’ve thought of using it in fortemons!

  • @mr.crumblycookie5203
    @mr.crumblycookie5203 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Moves I think would be good:
    Fell Stinger
    Salt Cure
    Ceasless Edge
    Any move with a flinch chance + multihits
    Taunt ( If it works)
    Acrobatics
    Venoshock
    Ancient Power
    Trailblaze
    Nuzzle
    Sucker Punch (if it works like that)
    Snarl/Spirit break
    I hope most of these arent banned

  • @neptunecarlson9984
    @neptunecarlson9984 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    id love to see you do more of this tier

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Volcarona just got so much more busted

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This tier is crazy

  • @AfifRayz
    @AfifRayz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you use something like swords dance in the item slot?
    Edit: thx to the guy answering my question

    • @__shoe__
      @__shoe__ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only secondary effects

    • @AfifRayz
      @AfifRayz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@__shoe__ ohh ty

  • @bun-masaru5362
    @bun-masaru5362 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think draining kiss would be good too!

  • @SemiPerson
    @SemiPerson ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imagine parting shot as an ability. Just double parting shot a setup sweeper and they are worse if than they began.

    • @__shoe__
      @__shoe__ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure it's a secondary effect. Is it not a primary effect?

    • @walaceandrade4046
      @walaceandrade4046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only attacking moves can be set as an item unfortunately.

    • @airam1721
      @airam1721 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@walaceandrade4046there's a poison move that lowers a lot one of the defenses, and I don't know who it is and what defense does it lower, but if we got to make an attacking move taking out one defense harshly and the other move does it as well it'd be insane
      Do we have one for attack?

  • @アオインク
    @アオインク ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did avalanche bax with brave nature, 2x damage on every move

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's cool

  • @radvil
    @radvil ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The amount of creativity u need for OMs is amazing

  • @lukecalos4442
    @lukecalos4442 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's crazy, but really funny 😂

  • @munchrai6396
    @munchrai6396 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly it appears that I cannot put Bite on my Mausehold to relive the glory of King's Rock. Pity, this looked really cool

  • @RockHoward256
    @RockHoward256 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Other metagames are just getting better and better

  • @kaimanthelizardwizard1248
    @kaimanthelizardwizard1248 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imagine Night Daze in the item slot

  • @neyky0745
    @neyky0745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys what would happen with Echoed voice..? *-*

  • @FluffyVex
    @FluffyVex ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm the guy you fought yesterday!

  • @walaceandrade4046
    @walaceandrade4046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just tried that Tsareena, shit is crazy... Tera Grass Bullet Seed Koed Volcarona with its 2 hits, yes 50% each.
    Run some Scarf to outrun it or Rocky Helmet to Revenge it guys.

    • @airam1721
      @airam1721 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine her getting dragon dance

  • @95DreadLord
    @95DreadLord ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This game mode is insane

  • @captaindemozan2700
    @captaindemozan2700 ปีที่แล้ว

    IDK if it'd actually be viable, but a Magnezone "holding" Swift with unmissable Zap Cannons sounds like fun

  • @mufaro1988
    @mufaro1988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder what would happen with serene grace jirachi , flinching move “item” and iron head if that isn’t already banned lmao

  • @savioferreira8684
    @savioferreira8684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Either flail or reversal

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tsareena doesn’t learn reversal

  • @DanielS.Pearson64
    @DanielS.Pearson64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Try Heavy Slam Clodsire

  • @PokediskoTCG
    @PokediskoTCG ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow ima try this

  • @MichaelKern-bt1el
    @MichaelKern-bt1el ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why does it say Gen 9 Random Battles (High Ladder) in the title? Also, Fortemons is awesome.

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I use a preset for my titles and and I forgot to change that part

  • @deboraluz27
    @deboraluz27 ปีที่แล้ว

    I kinda wana know what are the rules for fortemons, like can you just put any moves on the item slot or just attacking moves?

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Smogon adds this but not nat dex doubles.

  • @mr.crumblycookie5203
    @mr.crumblycookie5203 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What about swift as an ability and a OHKO move?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It doesn’t work like that, also ohko moves are banned

    • @mr.crumblycookie5203
      @mr.crumblycookie5203 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Pokevin oh, okay

  • @WhyIsWillowHere
    @WhyIsWillowHere ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi

  • @alphaziyad9292
    @alphaziyad9292 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pursuit would be insane

    • @AntiKbYT
      @AntiKbYT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its banned

  • @namanverma1282
    @namanverma1282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible to give aqua jet to azu so that all moves have +1 priority

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, priorities in the item slot are banned

  • @chrismelow3543
    @chrismelow3543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Hope it stay all life

  • @dylanpalmer5151
    @dylanpalmer5151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now the question is: does acrobatics work?

    • @walaceandrade4046
      @walaceandrade4046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I dont think you cant rid of your item if you set it up to be a move.

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      acrobatics should not work... if you look in battle your item is "Mail" (because it can't be knocked off)

  • @TheAnimeTrainer
    @TheAnimeTrainer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's busted

  • @quincyquincy1767
    @quincyquincy1767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question does last respects give extra power to any move depending on amount of Pokemon fainted if so , multi hit move plus arm thrust

    • @quincyquincy1767
      @quincyquincy1767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean plus last respects

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idk, houndstone is banned so no last respects

  • @darkmagevivi526
    @darkmagevivi526 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it have to be a move the mon can learn in its item slot?

  • @fabiomassimo29
    @fabiomassimo29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fai rayquaza choise e poweup punch come efetto

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Non posso dare uno strumento se c’è una mossa in quello slot, rayquaza non è in gen 9 e anche se ci fosse gli Uber sono bannati

  • @alby1928
    @alby1928 ปีที่แล้ว

    So fortemons basically means a pokemons item is switched out for one of its moves effects like for giga drain hp back or whirlpool trapping the opponent. Do you need these moves on the Pokémon to have the effect or not like you can have flower tricks crit rate without running flower trick

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I included a photo in the first seconds of the video, you can put a move in the item slot of the pokemon (so if you put a move you have no item) and all of your attacking moves will gain that secondary effect

  • @gsnamine3958
    @gsnamine3958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wonde If trailblaze Is forbidden:o i mean its basically Speed boost
    edit: yeah i should wait until the Video was over

  • @tejasdixit4417
    @tejasdixit4417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Challenge: Put gigaton hammer in the item slot.

  • @anht.720
    @anht.720 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is this video description??? Are you ok sir??

  • @BabaBanjoo
    @BabaBanjoo ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Fissure good as a "item"?

  • @meannush7552
    @meannush7552 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what if you used multi-hit moves like bullet seed for an item?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hitting multiple times is not a secondary effect

    • @alphathesupreme2238
      @alphathesupreme2238 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well doing damage is the primary effect,

  • @GbasireYTP
    @GbasireYTP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you put an attack that cannot miss as an item, will all your attacks hit, or is it not really considered a secondary effect ?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The accuracy of a move is not a secondary effect, aerial ace doesn’t make all your moves hit either

    • @GbasireYTP
      @GbasireYTP ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pokevin ok, thanks !

  • @inovillena9346
    @inovillena9346 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what mode is this?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fortemons

  • @dynamicking200
    @dynamicking200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about like population bomb? I guess it is banned, but imagine hitting every move 10 times that do be ridiculous

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it doesn't work like that, hitting multiple times is not a secondary effect

    • @dynamicking200
      @dynamicking200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pokevin Oh gotcha

    • @walaceandrade4046
      @walaceandrade4046 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe a def drop as an item while attacking with Population Bomb? I tried Low Sweep on Breelom's Bullet Seed and the speed drop proc after each hit.

  • @change4256
    @change4256 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Tsareena might be reversal

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I included in the video it was Flail, Tsareena doesn't learn Reversal

    • @change4256
      @change4256 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh my bad

  • @Official_ViperYT
    @Official_ViperYT ปีที่แล้ว

    haha, fissure with a 100% accurate move go brrr.

  • @RealQuin
    @RealQuin ปีที่แล้ว

    can you use any move as an item or does it have to be a move that a given pokemon can actually learn?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว

      It has to learn it

  • @magmaah4983
    @magmaah4983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ceruledge il più forte sempre detto
    Poi, che qui abbia la passiva sbroccata è un altro discorso ma shhh

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      il video di oggi potrebbe farti contento :)

  • @ekkaj99
    @ekkaj99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it says team in discription but i cant find the pokepaste

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh yea, I forgot… I’m not home rn, I’ll put it there in some hours (I’ll also send it in the replies here)

    • @ekkaj99
      @ekkaj99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pokevin Thank you, loved the video, keep up the good work🤝

    • @pinkyxie2467
      @pinkyxie2467 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Pokevin all good, we all make mistakes.

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Justo got home, here's the team: pokepast.es/47b244412049c1b3

    • @ekkaj99
      @ekkaj99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pokevin thanks again

  • @jellybehindtheslaughter7428
    @jellybehindtheslaughter7428 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happens when the item is protect? Or wish? Like status moves? Or does it only effects attacking move with secondary effects?

    • @24.buingocminh4
      @24.buingocminh4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think you can only use non status move

    • @alphathesupreme2238
      @alphathesupreme2238 ปีที่แล้ว

      Protecting / healing you is the primary effect, so they won’t do anything

  • @patcha155
    @patcha155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what was that pawmot?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably electro ball… I included that in the video

  • @sumisu_senpai_6280
    @sumisu_senpai_6280 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do priority moves work? That could be potentially busted

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      priorities in the item slot are banned

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 ปีที่แล้ว

      When everyone runs Helping Hands as an item if they know it

  • @Sylviks
    @Sylviks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is giga drain better than leech life?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On Volcarona yes, it's a special attack, it also provides good coverage... in the item slot they should be the same, probably better to have giga drain or absorb because they don't make contact and I'm unsure about how that works

    • @Sylviks
      @Sylviks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pokevin I think it’s based on the moveset whether or not it’s contact

    • @cinnamoone3553
      @cinnamoone3553 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Sylviks counter argument: flame body triggers on body press avalugg's surf. it seems that if the "item" is a contact move, all moves will make contact.

    • @Sylviks
      @Sylviks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cinnamoone3553 But isn’t body press specifically based on defense, i.e wouldn’t it do dmg physically because it’s damage is based on defense. Why can’t we take an example from two accounts and attack the same thing like 25 times each?

    • @cinnamoone3553
      @cinnamoone3553 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Sylviks 4:22

  • @ofiralmer
    @ofiralmer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is dire claw banned?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sneasler is not in the game yet

    • @ofiralmer
      @ofiralmer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pokevin oh yeah lmao, I only play random battles so i forgot

  • @magickarp_lol_3374
    @magickarp_lol_3374 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for triage (it's most likely to get banned lol

  • @jaybes5714
    @jaybes5714 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it possible by status coup like items?

    • @Pokevin
      @Pokevin  ปีที่แล้ว

      ???

    • @jaybes5714
      @jaybes5714 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pokevin can you put status moves as an item?

    • @tejasdixit4417
      @tejasdixit4417 ปีที่แล้ว

      Status moves don't have a secondary effects, but you can do nuzzle

  • @CharlyZedX87
    @CharlyZedX87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are* :v

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi