Hedonism wasn't at the heart of the culture from the start, but it certainly developed this way. Like drinking on weekends doesn't make you an alcoholic, but if you begin to only wish for the weekend to come so you can drink, is a sign of a development towards that endpoint. I think we are seeing a breaking point today. The promises of Americanization can no longer be fulfilled and many are waking up with a hangover, but still not being ready for a clear break with the habit. But on the other hand, we have the people, who are just too drunk on it. They have to double down, because they are rightfully terrified of withdrawal.
hedonism is the heart of any empire...when meaning dies as a result of being drowned out by the spirit of the masses, which is almost always hedonistic. all empires become hedonistic because most people lean to hedonism as a result of both nature and social control. the greater an empire grows, the stronger this control is enacted.
I'm South African and I agree with everything said except for the idea that Red American Culture isn't adapted. You'd be surprised how many American inspired conservatives there are in this country. MAGA aesthetics, redpill arguments, anti-woke ideology, etc.
21:40 Cant speak for China, but Russia was turbo-americanized in the 90s. Russia is very hedonistic as well. The only thing that's different, Russians can never accept the role of a vassal, like Japan, SK or Germany. I mean this was exactly what happened in the 90s, Metallica concert with a quadrillion people in Moscov, consumerism dialed up to eleven, the rivalry forgotten. Russia wanted to be a friend and an equal to America. But then came Serbia. America showed whos calling the shots. But Russia was not able to submit to the hegemon. Too weak to really challenge America, but too proud to become its dog.
6:27 I must say that american-style evangelical protestantism is VERY influential in Latin America, specially Brazil, and it's spreading to Africa through Brazil. Much of our right wing politics is also imported from the US of A
I would have coined it “Metropolitan American Culture” instead of Blue American, but you’re not wrong. Pretty much every major city here is run by the Democratic Party.
everything is ran by the elites. its not dems v republicans, its just the uber rich vs everyone else. dont fall for their manufactured political warfare
I think you're dead wrong about American culture and infertility. Birth rates in Western Europe had already collapsed by the end of WW1 and other than a mild resurgence in the 50's and 60's have generally been at or below replacement level for the past century. In addition, America has usually had a much higher tfr than other Western countries (even among whites) and I would say the recent decline in fertility is more due to Blue Americans and minorities not having kids. Red Americans are still having lots of kids to this day.
6:30 Actually Envagelism as had a lot of growth outside of America in the recent decades. It's massive in a lot of countries in Africa, Latin America, some parts of Asia and its growing somewhat in Europe. Brazil, which was a predominantly Catholic country for most of its history, is now basically half evangelical. And evangelical Christianity will become the majority religion in the next coming decades in that country.
As an African who grew up Presbyterian, discovering my Evangelical church was like eating food with spices for the first time. On the other hand, I don't like the over-believing in powers and the supernatural in Evangelical churches
It might be worth adding that this is largely Pentecostalism, which I think is a profound example of “Red American Culture” with internalized liberal values. It elevates the individual with belief in charismatic powers to an unparalleled extent, even within Protestantism. I think it’s fair enough that parts of Red American culture are being exported, but it’s important to remember that it’s still fundamentally liberal and generally anti-intellectual, just like he qualifies in the video.
@Raledadsen4772 I wonder how much of that inherently the African influence (we be believing in witch craft/powers and we like to have a good time) and how much of it is Red American culture export
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It's interesting that non-Americans are often more heavily immersed in mainstream American culture than many Americans. I'm Canadian and I consider Canada an extension of American culture, but when I compare myself to friends I've had in Europe or Latin America they often seem more Americanized than me in many ways. All the music they listen to, media they watch, clothes they wear, food they eat, values they hold, etc are the same as what an average liberal urban American would be. Meanwhile for someone like me, I rarely listen to American music or watch American media, I rarely eat American food, I haven't worn jeans, sports jerseys, or baseball hats since I was a kid. My Americanized friends from other countries think I'm odd when they mention some American celebrity or media and I don't know what they're talking about.
The infertility is a problem, but less so than in somewhere like Europe. I've heard American culture described as superficial making it easy to slot into, and as you note the world has become Americanized - immigration for all its faults is the inevitable means of making up the shortfall. One might argue that it's cynical to constantly take the aspiring classes from the rest of the world, particularly the decreasing number of fertile parts of the world, and use them to fill doordash orders, but hedonism trumps equality and most people just won't think about it.
Blaming low birth rates on American culture seems dead wrong given that US is one of the only developed countries with a decent fertility rate and the Americanized minorities in Europe are the ones having kids. Infertility in Blue American culture only started farily recently whereas it's been going on the rest of the developed world for many decades. Idk how a culture that went infertile 10 years ago caused Western Europe and East Asia to go infertile 50 year ago.
It also feels like this guy has a pretty warped view of American culture. What I'm surrounded with which is pretty blue is a bunch of people who work like maniacs in order to accomplish greatness. This is an aspect of the culture that you don't really see exist in these "Americanized" countries which are in general lazy.
A couple of things: the United States has managed to have a pretty high birth rate comparison to many other countries. Also one other western country that’s been able to maintain it is Israel. I think you do a good job summing up the hedonistic nature of American culture, but I also think that by writing off red America, you miss the fact they play a vital role in checking America’s cultures habits. America has always gone through cycles that last of around 50/60 years and the two sides act as a thermostatic check on each other. You can see this in the 80s with Reagan or today with the massive backlash against woke. This causes the United States to constantly reinvent itself culturally, which can be destabilizing as that transition happens. However, since blue America controls many of America’s institutions that cultural prism gets exported abroad without the counterbalancing red culture. So Americanization abroad becomes hyper distilled and contains some of America’s worst traits without some of the counteracting forces. A great example is Europe, which has taken the blue Americanization to the extreme, but completely ignored the red Americas focus on business and dynamism. Thus you get countries in Europe that are highly taxed welfare states that are economically moribund
This form of American culture is what Malcolm and Simone Collins describe as the Urban Monoculture, which isn't American culture itself but is a subset of liberal urban American culture that evolved in the past few centuries in American cities and spread throughout the country and the world, suppressing the unique regional cultures in different parts of America and other parts of the world.
Ahhh! My God you spoke my thoughts. The prophetic and melancholic nature of your essay is beyond this words.Yyiurs best essay... straight from hearts....
disagree about lack of importance abt evangelical christiniaty. millions in africa latin america and south/south east asia have converted over the the past two centuries
@@AmericanImperium1776 according to wikipedia 23% of africa’s christians are evangelical specifically, which encompasses a bunch of denominations i believe. similar 20ish% figure among christians in latin america and phillippines. mormons and jehovahs witnesses also have outsized impact due to missions and charity work that gains loyalty of certain locals
On the adoption culture similar thing happens in religion. It used to be way more pronounced when a society lost to another they would be like, oh we lost? Guess our Gods arent real or are less powerful than yours so im gonna pray to yours instead. It obviously still happens but you do have persistent minorities that resist, even all the social and economic advantages cant persuade them to switch
Perfectly put. But today the decision to switch gods is due to purely material factors; you are rich, we are poor, so we will change gods. Those who resist, resist because BAC does not offer anything beyond material benefits.
@@courtssense i just need to pushback on the idea the massive wealth they have accumulated is just the sweat of their own brow. That their culture is innately more capable of it. No, its merely geopolitical happenstance. With Europe on its knees after 2 wars they gave the British an absolutely ruthless deal requiring them to pay back everything they had borrowed after the war because they couldnt pay for it. Meanwhile the USSR got all its aid for free. They merely exploited europes weakness to position themselves on top. It would like if Europe were to involve itself in the american civil war on the side of the south and force them be balkanized to reduce their potential, a historical decision I resent was not taken. And a final point, before they got rid of the Gold standard they were a mass exporter so the worlds gold would flow in. When they started importing more than exporting they switched to FIAT currency. So they could keep their gold reserves and with their military might can let their debt surpass their yearly GDP. And on the innovations seems like plain as day fact to point out that most of it comes from immigrants that leave their home countries. They are brain draining the entire planet on the back of the previous geopolitical and economic success by happenstance.
It's interesting to hear an argument from another perspective. I'm not culturally American either (though I happen to have been born and raised there), but I took a hard left turn and am an anarchist. And still, the things I would point to and say, "That! That's why I don't like Capitalism/America!" are completely different from the problems you pointed out with it. Good video, really made me think.
Evangelical Christianity has been exported many Latin American countries like Brazil and a lot of central America where they have become a core support base of right in those countries. But the broader point still stands that bac has more reach than Red American Culture.
As severly overly americanized Kazakhstani zillenial (2000), I am the only one wishing to have 12-17 kids among my peers. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Israel are among the extremely rare countries where women are civilized, have full pack of legal rights, but still choose to have children. In kazakhstan, 60% of people are below 30 y.o. and most of my peers in their mid 20's are wanting 2-4 kids on average. I would say my americanization multiplied my already high kazakhstani expected offspring quantity to a skyrocketing number
Rejecting mainstream American culture to focus on your family, friends, loved ones and your writing is so pacific northwest coded lol. You’d fit right in in Oregon.
I would say that as a person having family and friends in both Russia and Ukraine, both countries are very Americanised, but of course to a lesser extent than Central European countries. Ukraine is a bit more Americanised than Russia, but the difference isn’t very large, as both people have very similar cultures in general. In Russia people are especially Americanised in large cities. It has also has to be said that after 1991 during many years there was a nonstop propagandisation of USA and the American lifestyle (showing its superiority) on television. Many people in Russia and Ukraine dreamed of life there, many people left for the USA, and the general opinion of life in the USA has still left its traces in people’s minds even today.
It is interesting to hear that you prefer Italian. I am Italian, and I mostly watch video in English. I truly don't have any preference between them, neither in sound or actually usability. Unless it's poetry Italian doesn't really sound better to me. But in literature my language really shines. I hovever think Italian is better, grammatically.
Well I like learning languages and Italian is the one I have enjoyed the most so far. I love how it sounds and I think that it is part of my general Italophilia, in a similar way that many other people have Francophilia. But yeah I think that it is difficult to see the aesthetic beauty of your mother tounge and I am reminded of this video of JL Borjes talking about the beauty of English with a passion that you will not hear from a native. th-cam.com/video/NJYoqCDKoT4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AndreaCirla
Great video! But I have some disagreements. One, fertility rates were already rapidly declining in the west even before Americanization. By the 1920s the most industrialized nations had between 2-3 children and it was still declining. And like you said, non-Americanized countries like China have low fertility rates. Even middle eastern countries like Iraq or Oman have decreasing fertility rates despite their limited Americanization compared to Western Europe. In the US, the most fertile groups outside of very religious communities are the upper middle class in cities that can comfortably afford a nice home and fairly luxurious lifestyle. A lot of these people are liberal and (at least nominally) support liberal causes like feminism, while maintaining a more “traditional” (read: normal) lifestyle like marrying and having children in wedlock. On the other hands, more traditional parts of “red America” have low fertility rates and higher levels of drug use, alcoholism, and other hedonistic tendencies, namely the de industrialized regions like the rust belt. I fully agree that for many people nowadays life is unfulfilling, though I am not sure if this is explained purely by hedonism or also by lack of economic opportunity. I think the problem is that hedonistic pleasures like social media, video games, and porn are cheaper and more accessible than ever while long-term meaningful stuff like housing, education, and having children is more expensive than ever. If you’re interested in this topic, I recommend you check out Analyzing Finance with Nick, especially his video titled “Moral degeneracy is popular because it’s affordable” Finally, what alternative ideology or philosophy do you think would serve the world or at least your country better than American hedonism? What ideology can provide a more meaningful life without sacrificing prosperity? I’m genuinely curious, not trying to make a point with those questions.
@courtssense considering most power metal bands sing in English, that makes sense I wonder why it's no more popular in America proper, though heck, now that I think about it The band that codified power metal as we know it is named after an American holiday
Liberal urban American culture has a bigger influence in Europe and the Anglosphere, but I would argue that Evangelical American influence is just as strong and in some cases stronger than liberal American influence in places like Latin America, Africa and parts of Asia. Africa was less than 10% Christian in 1900 and is 50% Christian today largely thanks to American missionary efforts and they mostly follow the same denominations brought by American missionaries (Baptist, Methodist, Calvinist, Pentecostal, etc). A significant portion of Latin America is now Evangelical including up to half the population in places like Guatemala, Nicaragua, and Honduras. The vast majority of the Pacific Islanders are now Christian, over 90% in most Pacific island countries, with unique American denominations like the Mormons being very prevelant. Tonga is the most Mormon country in the world. The state of Nagaland in India is the most Baptist state in the world at almost 90%. Funny enough these religious groups typically associated with American culture have more influence is certain places outside America than they do inside it. In South Korea the country went from less than 2% Christian in 1950 to around 30% today and it's a very Americanized form of Christianity. There are many politicians in these countries who style themselves as a stereotypical Evangelical American promoting conservative religious values, and who do it better than any actual American politicians had. When I was in Costa Rica some of the locals were telling me how one of the main political figures running for office was an Evangelical pastor who ran on all the same conservative talking points you'd expect from a conservative American evangelical. Uganda and Ghana's push to punish homosexuality can also be linked back to American evangelical influences. You could even argue that "red American culture" as you put it is stronger outside of America today than it is within America. It should also be noted how recent conservative figures abroad whether Nigel Farage in the UK, Milei in Argentina, or Bolsonaro in Brazil have attempted to model themselves as the "Donald Trump" of their country. In both cases, the liberal urban American culture and conservative evangelical cultures of America are universalist and missionizing efforts that view themselves as holding the truth and see it as their duty to spread it to the rest of the world. In both cases it can be traced back to earlier iterations of American cultures that acted as missionizing forces. Some of the earliest settlers in America from Europe were Quaker, Puritan and other religious dissidents from Europe who sought to build a society that embodied what they saw as the highest values. The missionary zeal of these early Americans to spread their values and culture was passed down to today in a different form-some of the descendants of those early Americans became leftists who saw liberals progressive values as inherently good and had to spread them to the rest of the world, and others became evangelicals that saw it as their duty to spread the Gospel to the rest of the world.
Incredible video. This summarises my thoughts on American culture too. I have always been against it and while at first I would say that it was because of jealousy since I as a Canadian resented our dominance by the US, I have come to understand that many American values are actually bad for society and this is why I abandoned liberal demcoracy in favour of traditionalism
I would disagree that low fertility is tied to this American culture, at least not only this. It's tied to urban culture in general and urban societies throughout history have always had low fertility even as far back as the Roman Empire. On top of that, some countries that are culturally more similar to America, for example Israel or the Philippines have higher fertility than other countries that heavily oppose American culture, for example North Korea and Iran. Even liberal secular Americanized Jews in Israel have higher fertility than religious Iranians. North Korea, which can hardly be argued to be consuming any American culture, has extremely low fertility. The only countries today that don't have low fertility are the ultra poor countries in the Muslim world (Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Yemen, Iraq) and Africa. Wealthy Muslim countries like Tunisia, Iran, Turkey, Gulf States, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, etc. all have extremely low fertility, even in their rural, poor areas with little American influence.
@@en6820 I would say that we should recognize the pros and cons and live as best we can, but also go beyond only american culture and learn from other cultures.
I dont think american culture is inherently hedonistic. I think a certain percentage of people will be hedonistic given the chance, its just that our political and economic system works so well, in spite of its downfalls, that anyone can indulge in what ever they want.
As an American I find the Americanization of rest of the world quite convenient. As a college kid I can easily become freinds with any International Student that isn't Chinese. I also can travel to another countires and still feel at home beacuse they are playing music from my homeland. It is intresting to meet a guy in rural New Zealand who has never been to the US but who is wearing a Las Vegas shirt, American cultural hegemony makes it easier to talk to strangers of other backgrounds.
You know the tragedy is for third world americanised people. As most europeans don't have to search too far to feel at home in their own culture but ours is a world so different it feels like being stranger in a strange land. I think I have lost any respect for the old ways infact I detest my own culture no matter how ancient it claims itself.
I disagree strongly on the demographic issue. It isn’t Americanization that caused this, indeed the most Americanized country (America) has one of the highest birth rates in the developed world and stayed high for longer than more recently Americanized countries. Cities have always been demographic sinks compared to rural areas, and for the first time in history most people either live in cities or alienating suburban landscapes. That’s the issue here, combined with cost of living crises due to bureaucracy, monopoly, and other issues stemming from no particular country. There are no massive amounts of people flooding in from rural areas, and given how expensive everything has gotten no one is having kids as a result of the cost of living and housing crises we are seeing the world over. That is the common thread between all nations, not Americanization. To blame Americanization is to risk misdiagnosing the issue and missing a chance to point out what must actually be fixed. You pull out many important topics in this video but blame Americanization for many things which it is not responsible for. We are not modern society as a whole, even if we play the largest role in it.
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Hedonism wasn't at the heart of the culture from the start, but it certainly developed this way. Like drinking on weekends doesn't make you an alcoholic, but if you begin to only wish for the weekend to come so you can drink, is a sign of a development towards that endpoint.
I think we are seeing a breaking point today. The promises of Americanization can no longer be fulfilled and many are waking up with a hangover, but still not being ready for a clear break with the habit. But on the other hand, we have the people, who are just too drunk on it. They have to double down, because they are rightfully terrified of withdrawal.
hedonism is the heart of any empire...when meaning dies as a result of being drowned out by the spirit of the masses, which is almost always hedonistic. all empires become hedonistic because most people lean to hedonism as a result of both nature and social control. the greater an empire grows, the stronger this control is enacted.
King Friedrich didn't speak French because it was the Universal Language.
He spoke French as it was the *lingua* *franca*
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I'm South African and I agree with everything said except for the idea that Red American Culture isn't adapted. You'd be surprised how many American inspired conservatives there are in this country. MAGA aesthetics, redpill arguments, anti-woke ideology, etc.
21:40 Cant speak for China, but Russia was turbo-americanized in the 90s. Russia is very hedonistic as well. The only thing that's different, Russians can never accept the role of a vassal, like Japan, SK or Germany. I mean this was exactly what happened in the 90s, Metallica concert with a quadrillion people in Moscov, consumerism dialed up to eleven, the rivalry forgotten. Russia wanted to be a friend and an equal to America. But then came Serbia. America showed whos calling the shots. But Russia was not able to submit to the hegemon. Too weak to really challenge America, but too proud to become its dog.
6:27 I must say that american-style evangelical protestantism is VERY influential in Latin America, specially Brazil, and it's spreading to Africa through Brazil. Much of our right wing politics is also imported from the US of A
yes it's completely untrue
I would have coined it “Metropolitan American Culture” instead of Blue American, but you’re not wrong. Pretty much every major city here is run by the Democratic Party.
I think the globohomo culture you speak of was ironically developed in Germany first
everything is ran by the elites. its not dems v republicans, its just the uber rich vs everyone else. dont fall for their manufactured political warfare
Ahhh my native culture. The current scourge of the West.
I think you're dead wrong about American culture and infertility. Birth rates in Western Europe had already collapsed by the end of WW1 and other than a mild resurgence in the 50's and 60's have generally been at or below replacement level for the past century. In addition, America has usually had a much higher tfr than other Western countries (even among whites) and I would say the recent decline in fertility is more due to Blue Americans and minorities not having kids. Red Americans are still having lots of kids to this day.
6:30 Actually Envagelism as had a lot of growth outside of America in the recent decades. It's massive in a lot of countries in Africa, Latin America, some parts of Asia and its growing somewhat in Europe. Brazil, which was a predominantly Catholic country for most of its history, is now basically half evangelical. And evangelical Christianity will become the majority religion in the next coming decades in that country.
Yeah from what I know evanagelical Christianity is huge in Africa, Most evangelicals will probobly be African in the future
As an African who grew up Presbyterian, discovering my Evangelical church was like eating food with spices for the first time.
On the other hand, I don't like the over-believing in powers and the supernatural in Evangelical churches
I just commented that, didn't see your comment. But yes.
It might be worth adding that this is largely Pentecostalism, which I think is a profound example of “Red American Culture” with internalized liberal values. It elevates the individual with belief in charismatic powers to an unparalleled extent, even within Protestantism. I think it’s fair enough that parts of Red American culture are being exported, but it’s important to remember that it’s still fundamentally liberal and generally anti-intellectual, just like he qualifies in the video.
@Raledadsen4772 I wonder how much of that inherently the African influence (we be believing in witch craft/powers and we like to have a good time) and how much of it is Red American culture export
Wealth in a society works a lot like energy in chemistry, in the sense that breaking bonds releases a lot of it.
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It's interesting that non-Americans are often more heavily immersed in mainstream American culture than many Americans. I'm Canadian and I consider Canada an extension of American culture, but when I compare myself to friends I've had in Europe or Latin America they often seem more Americanized than me in many ways. All the music they listen to, media they watch, clothes they wear, food they eat, values they hold, etc are the same as what an average liberal urban American would be.
Meanwhile for someone like me, I rarely listen to American music or watch American media, I rarely eat American food, I haven't worn jeans, sports jerseys, or baseball hats since I was a kid. My Americanized friends from other countries think I'm odd when they mention some American celebrity or media and I don't know what they're talking about.
The infertility is a problem, but less so than in somewhere like Europe. I've heard American culture described as superficial making it easy to slot into, and as you note the world has become Americanized - immigration for all its faults is the inevitable means of making up the shortfall. One might argue that it's cynical to constantly take the aspiring classes from the rest of the world, particularly the decreasing number of fertile parts of the world, and use them to fill doordash orders, but hedonism trumps equality and most people just won't think about it.
Well, the video is about the American *culture*, not country. And Europe became infertile after adopting it.
19:25 Based.
Blaming low birth rates on American culture seems dead wrong given that US is one of the only developed countries with a decent fertility rate and the Americanized minorities in Europe are the ones having kids. Infertility in Blue American culture only started farily recently whereas it's been going on the rest of the developed world for many decades. Idk how a culture that went infertile 10 years ago caused Western Europe and East Asia to go infertile 50 year ago.
It also feels like this guy has a pretty warped view of American culture. What I'm surrounded with which is pretty blue is a bunch of people who work like maniacs in order to accomplish greatness. This is an aspect of the culture that you don't really see exist in these "Americanized" countries which are in general lazy.
As an American, I would like to apologize for the mass export of consumerism culture
A couple of things: the United States has managed to have a pretty high birth rate comparison to many other countries. Also one other western country that’s been able to maintain it is Israel.
I think you do a good job summing up the hedonistic nature of American culture, but I also think that by writing off red America, you miss the fact they play a vital role in checking America’s cultures habits. America has always gone through cycles that last of around 50/60 years and the two sides act as a thermostatic check on each other. You can see this in the 80s with Reagan or today with the massive backlash against woke. This causes the United States to constantly reinvent itself culturally, which can be destabilizing as that transition happens.
However, since blue America controls many of America’s institutions that cultural prism gets exported abroad without the counterbalancing red culture. So Americanization abroad becomes hyper distilled and contains some of America’s worst traits without some of the counteracting forces. A great example is Europe, which has taken the blue Americanization to the extreme, but completely ignored the red Americas focus on business and dynamism. Thus you get countries in Europe that are highly taxed welfare states that are economically moribund
This form of American culture is what Malcolm and Simone Collins describe as the Urban Monoculture, which isn't American culture itself but is a subset of liberal urban American culture that evolved in the past few centuries in American cities and spread throughout the country and the world, suppressing the unique regional cultures in different parts of America and other parts of the world.
Ahhh! My God you spoke my thoughts. The prophetic and melancholic nature of your essay is beyond this words.Yyiurs best essay... straight from hearts....
I appreciate it.
David Bowie's "I'm afraid of Americans" sums this up perfectly.
Like with anything you cant take happiness/satisfaction, you gotta grow it from the seed.
disagree about lack of importance abt evangelical christiniaty. millions in africa latin america and south/south east asia have converted over the the past two centuries
I guess you are right.
They do have some influence, but it is still orders of magnitude behind something like feminism.
Have they converted to Evangelical Christianity specifically or another denomination?
Nope, full godless atheist. Raised spiritual but not religious by hippie parents.
That is the C'sS lore.
@@courtssense Okay thanks, but my question was for GregoryFridman5680. No offense.
@@AmericanImperium1776 according to wikipedia 23% of africa’s christians are evangelical specifically, which encompasses a bunch of denominations i believe. similar 20ish% figure among christians in latin america and phillippines. mormons and jehovahs witnesses also have outsized impact due to missions and charity work that gains loyalty of certain locals
I didnt know you werent a native english speaker. I relate to what you said as a spaniard culturally americanized
On the adoption culture similar thing happens in religion. It used to be way more pronounced when a society lost to another they would be like, oh we lost? Guess our Gods arent real or are less powerful than yours so im gonna pray to yours instead. It obviously still happens but you do have persistent minorities that resist, even all the social and economic advantages cant persuade them to switch
Perfectly put.
But today the decision to switch gods is due to purely material factors; you are rich, we are poor, so we will change gods. Those who resist, resist because BAC does not offer anything beyond material benefits.
@@courtssense i just need to pushback on the idea the massive wealth they have accumulated is just the sweat of their own brow. That their culture is innately more capable of it. No, its merely geopolitical happenstance. With Europe on its knees after 2 wars they gave the British an absolutely ruthless deal requiring them to pay back everything they had borrowed after the war because they couldnt pay for it. Meanwhile the USSR got all its aid for free. They merely exploited europes weakness to position themselves on top. It would like if Europe were to involve itself in the american civil war on the side of the south and force them be balkanized to reduce their potential, a historical decision I resent was not taken.
And a final point, before they got rid of the Gold standard they were a mass exporter so the worlds gold would flow in. When they started importing more than exporting they switched to FIAT currency. So they could keep their gold reserves and with their military might can let their debt surpass their yearly GDP.
And on the innovations seems like plain as day fact to point out that most of it comes from immigrants that leave their home countries. They are brain draining the entire planet on the back of the previous geopolitical and economic success by happenstance.
very good comparison
It's interesting to hear an argument from another perspective. I'm not culturally American either (though I happen to have been born and raised there), but I took a hard left turn and am an anarchist. And still, the things I would point to and say, "That! That's why I don't like Capitalism/America!" are completely different from the problems you pointed out with it. Good video, really made me think.
Evangelical Christianity has been exported many Latin American countries like Brazil and a lot of central America where they have become a core support base of right in those countries. But the broader point still stands that bac has more reach than Red American Culture.
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@@courtssense I felt that.
Hi from Italy, loved the essay
As severly overly americanized Kazakhstani zillenial (2000), I am the only one wishing to have 12-17 kids among my peers. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and Israel are among the extremely rare countries where women are civilized, have full pack of legal rights, but still choose to have children. In kazakhstan, 60% of people are below 30 y.o. and most of my peers in their mid 20's are wanting 2-4 kids on average. I would say my americanization multiplied my already high kazakhstani expected offspring quantity to a skyrocketing number
you hit this very accurately
Rejecting mainstream American culture to focus on your family, friends, loved ones and your writing is so pacific northwest coded lol. You’d fit right in in Oregon.
Is this true? I’m a native Texan but I’ve always been fascinated by Oregon and Washington (to a much lesser extent, nor cal too)
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I would say that as a person having family and friends in both Russia and Ukraine, both countries are very Americanised, but of course to a lesser extent than Central European countries. Ukraine is a bit more Americanised than Russia, but the difference isn’t very large, as both people have very similar cultures in general.
In Russia people are especially Americanised in large cities. It has also has to be said that after 1991 during many years there was a nonstop propagandisation of USA and the American lifestyle (showing its superiority) on television. Many people in Russia and Ukraine dreamed of life there, many people left for the USA, and the general opinion of life in the USA has still left its traces in people’s minds even today.
It is interesting to hear that you prefer Italian. I am Italian, and I mostly watch video in English. I truly don't have any preference between them, neither in sound or actually usability. Unless it's poetry Italian doesn't really sound better to me. But in literature my language really shines. I hovever think Italian is better, grammatically.
Well I like learning languages and Italian is the one I have enjoyed the most so far. I love how it sounds and I think that it is part of my general Italophilia, in a similar way that many other people have Francophilia.
But yeah I think that it is difficult to see the aesthetic beauty of your mother tounge and I am reminded of this video of JL Borjes talking about the beauty of English with a passion that you will not hear from a native.
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Great video! But I have some disagreements. One, fertility rates were already rapidly declining in the west even before Americanization. By the 1920s the most industrialized nations had between 2-3 children and it was still declining. And like you said, non-Americanized countries like China have low fertility rates. Even middle eastern countries like Iraq or Oman have decreasing fertility rates despite their limited Americanization compared to Western Europe.
In the US, the most fertile groups outside of very religious communities are the upper middle class in cities that can comfortably afford a nice home and fairly luxurious lifestyle. A lot of these people are liberal and (at least nominally) support liberal causes like feminism, while maintaining a more “traditional” (read: normal) lifestyle like marrying and having children in wedlock. On the other hands, more traditional parts of “red America” have low fertility rates and higher levels of drug use, alcoholism, and other hedonistic tendencies, namely the de industrialized regions like the rust belt.
I fully agree that for many people nowadays life is unfulfilling, though I am not sure if this is explained purely by hedonism or also by lack of economic opportunity. I think the problem is that hedonistic pleasures like social media, video games, and porn are cheaper and more accessible than ever while long-term meaningful stuff like housing, education, and having children is more expensive than ever. If you’re interested in this topic, I recommend you check out Analyzing Finance with Nick, especially his video titled “Moral degeneracy is popular because it’s affordable”
Finally, what alternative ideology or philosophy do you think would serve the world or at least your country better than American hedonism? What ideology can provide a more meaningful life without sacrificing prosperity? I’m genuinely curious, not trying to make a point with those questions.
Absolutely based video!
A materialist naturalist worldview will always feel empty
Why? I disagree.
its not hedonism, its capital
I've heard that one, but then how do we explain the fact that there is also hedonism and this sort of corruption in socialist countries.
@@courtssense there is no such country, we live under global capitalism
Soviet union? DPRK? None were real socialism?
@@courtssense just because the state owns the means of production doesnt mean the mode of production has been meaningfully altered from capitalism
but id rather not talk past each other, if you could tell me what particularly you mean by 'socialism' thatd be lovely
>Modern German music is mostly pop and rap
screams in power metal
>senpai noticed me
do you perhaps share my taste in music my good sir?
True, true, but even power metal is also American.
@courtssense
considering most power metal bands sing in English, that makes sense
I wonder why it's no more popular in America proper, though
heck, now that I think about it The band that codified power metal as we know it is named after an American holiday
And for my music taste I like rock especially Vietnam-80's era, not too much power metal. But if you have any recommendations please tell me!
Is the rise in electronic/techno music also american based? Seems more like a dutch thing to me at first sight
Liberal urban American culture has a bigger influence in Europe and the Anglosphere, but I would argue that Evangelical American influence is just as strong and in some cases stronger than liberal American influence in places like Latin America, Africa and parts of Asia. Africa was less than 10% Christian in 1900 and is 50% Christian today largely thanks to American missionary efforts and they mostly follow the same denominations brought by American missionaries (Baptist, Methodist, Calvinist, Pentecostal, etc). A significant portion of Latin America is now Evangelical including up to half the population in places like Guatemala, Nicaragua, and Honduras. The vast majority of the Pacific Islanders are now Christian, over 90% in most Pacific island countries, with unique American denominations like the Mormons being very prevelant. Tonga is the most Mormon country in the world. The state of Nagaland in India is the most Baptist state in the world at almost 90%. Funny enough these religious groups typically associated with American culture have more influence is certain places outside America than they do inside it. In South Korea the country went from less than 2% Christian in 1950 to around 30% today and it's a very Americanized form of Christianity. There are many politicians in these countries who style themselves as a stereotypical Evangelical American promoting conservative religious values, and who do it better than any actual American politicians had. When I was in Costa Rica some of the locals were telling me how one of the main political figures running for office was an Evangelical pastor who ran on all the same conservative talking points you'd expect from a conservative American evangelical. Uganda and Ghana's push to punish homosexuality can also be linked back to American evangelical influences. You could even argue that "red American culture" as you put it is stronger outside of America today than it is within America. It should also be noted how recent conservative figures abroad whether Nigel Farage in the UK, Milei in Argentina, or Bolsonaro in Brazil have attempted to model themselves as the "Donald Trump" of their country.
In both cases, the liberal urban American culture and conservative evangelical cultures of America are universalist and missionizing efforts that view themselves as holding the truth and see it as their duty to spread it to the rest of the world. In both cases it can be traced back to earlier iterations of American cultures that acted as missionizing forces. Some of the earliest settlers in America from Europe were Quaker, Puritan and other religious dissidents from Europe who sought to build a society that embodied what they saw as the highest values. The missionary zeal of these early Americans to spread their values and culture was passed down to today in a different form-some of the descendants of those early Americans became leftists who saw liberals progressive values as inherently good and had to spread them to the rest of the world, and others became evangelicals that saw it as their duty to spread the Gospel to the rest of the world.
Incredible video. This summarises my thoughts on American culture too. I have always been against it and while at first I would say that it was because of jealousy since I as a Canadian resented our dominance by the US, I have come to understand that many American values are actually bad for society and this is why I abandoned liberal demcoracy in favour of traditionalism
Wouldn’t RAC be things like blue jeans, country, soul? Also guns and McDonald’s and Walmart
There are many things that are shared between RAC and BAC, but as far as I know, country music has not been exported overseas in the same way.
I would disagree that low fertility is tied to this American culture, at least not only this. It's tied to urban culture in general and urban societies throughout history have always had low fertility even as far back as the Roman Empire. On top of that, some countries that are culturally more similar to America, for example Israel or the Philippines have higher fertility than other countries that heavily oppose American culture, for example North Korea and Iran. Even liberal secular Americanized Jews in Israel have higher fertility than religious Iranians. North Korea, which can hardly be argued to be consuming any American culture, has extremely low fertility. The only countries today that don't have low fertility are the ultra poor countries in the Muslim world (Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Yemen, Iraq) and Africa. Wealthy Muslim countries like Tunisia, Iran, Turkey, Gulf States, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, etc. all have extremely low fertility, even in their rural, poor areas with little American influence.
Never heard of a “french kolot” before and search engine isnt turning anything up?
Ahh its “Culottes”🤦♂️
French phonology moment
How do we fight this americanization on those who have been americanized such as you and I?
@@en6820 I would say that we should recognize the pros and cons and live as best we can, but also go beyond only american culture and learn from other cultures.
No, American evangelicalism is very effective in Latin America.
I dont think american culture is inherently hedonistic. I think a certain percentage of people will be hedonistic given the chance, its just that our political and economic system works so well, in spite of its downfalls, that anyone can indulge in what ever they want.
As an American I find the Americanization of rest of the world quite convenient. As a college kid I can easily become freinds with any International Student that isn't Chinese. I also can travel to another countires and still feel at home beacuse they are playing music from my homeland. It is intresting to meet a guy in rural New Zealand who has never been to the US but who is wearing a Las Vegas shirt, American cultural hegemony makes it easier to talk to strangers of other backgrounds.
RAC has Donald Trump, come on...
Fair enough, but I have my doubts to how influential he will be in the long run. We'll know in hindsight.
modern america is proto Brave New World
You know the tragedy is for third world americanised people. As most europeans don't have to search too far to feel at home in their own culture but ours is a world so different it feels like being stranger in a strange land. I think I have lost any respect for the old ways infact I detest my own culture no matter how ancient it claims itself.
You sound like Bitt3rSteel
CULT-ure
made in china computer 🤣
...That runs on (mostly)American made software.
I disagree strongly on the demographic issue. It isn’t Americanization that caused this, indeed the most Americanized country (America) has one of the highest birth rates in the developed world and stayed high for longer than more recently Americanized countries.
Cities have always been demographic sinks compared to rural areas, and for the first time in history most people either live in cities or alienating suburban landscapes. That’s the issue here, combined with cost of living crises due to bureaucracy, monopoly, and other issues stemming from no particular country.
There are no massive amounts of people flooding in from rural areas, and given how expensive everything has gotten no one is having kids as a result of the cost of living and housing crises we are seeing the world over. That is the common thread between all nations, not Americanization. To blame Americanization is to risk misdiagnosing the issue and missing a chance to point out what must actually be fixed.
You pull out many important topics in this video but blame Americanization for many things which it is not responsible for. We are not modern society as a whole, even if we play the largest role in it.
To the person responsible for video.
You don't know Jack
About America.
@@milmex317th Well, where is the real America and how can I learn its ways?
An outside perspective is never a bad thing
So i'm not the only one with Darwinian-Dawkinsian morality!
As an American, I would like to apologize for the mass export of consumerism culture