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The Khan of Khan's is massively overlooked. He is witty, sensible funny and a beast warrior. Today we give him the respect he deserves
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Funny how some good writing and a bit of love can make one of the most obscure Primarch's a fan favourite.
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Why dont they ride horses
@@JammesJammes because horses can only get up to 1 horsepower, their stuff slaps about 10,000 more horses in there
@@Azzie420 space marine horses
@@Azzie420 also horses definitely go faster than 1 horse power
Make video on lucius the eternal and all these space marines chapters
flame falcons
raptors
silver skulls
storm giants
Mantis warriors
Noise marines
Sons of malice
Sons of antaeus
Black vipers
Covenant of fire
Dragonspears
Dark krakens
Red scorpions
Stormwatchers
Marines errant
Scythes of the emperor
Howling griffons
Mortifactors
Steel confessors
Red hunters
Iron snakes
Excecutioners
Angels sanguine
Death spectres
Also make a videos about the machine god omnissiah
beastmans in 40k
ollanius pius
Soul forge
Daemon engines
Warp smiths and dark mechanicum
Pain engines
Helbrutes
Krorks
Drach'nyen
Obliterators
For a man who is all about zooming around the battle field and killing xenos he's one hell of a patience man
He is the perfect example of "walk quietly and carry a big stick"
Making speed efficient requires concentration, which requires contol of one's mind, so it makes sense.
Hunting requires patience and quick action to kill the prey.
It's a nice duality that Khan has.
@@robertcusick9931 talk* quietly and carry a big stick.
Best Jaghatai moment:
'Know this, son of Magnus. There is more under the arch of heaven than victory and defeat. We may fall back, but not forever. We may feint and we may weave, but not forever. We may yet be doomed to lose all we cherish, but we shall do so in the knowledge that we could have turned away, and did not.’
‘We remained true,’ the Khan said. ‘They can never have this, not if they burn all we ever built and scorn us through the dancing flames. You hear me? We remained true.’
I can’t find it atm but tbh my fav quote is when he offers to save magnus or asked him for the knowledge to do so
Incredibly based.
Such a cool lad.
When they called the Khan a savage, they were talking about his burns
The Khan's burn on Fulgrim was so sick even Vulcan had to be like, "Goddamn, dude, that's too much fire."
Brings a whole new meaning to "strike while the iron's hot"
Burned so bad, even Vulkan felt the heat.
The Khan: Has basic critical thinking skills
40k community: Jesus Christ what a god
Kind of what happens when pretty most of the conflict during the Heresy and all of current 40K is due to people jumping the gun and not fucking talking to each other.
He saw enough of that in his Mongolian tribes to be affected. That aspect is probably why he was so good in managing himself among his brothers, essentially leaders of other tribes.
my brother in christ that's exactly what the Imperium lacks
@@nestorgamer9746 Ollannius Pius was the last Catholic
@@collecter343 You just described half of all conflicts in human history. The other half is at least debatable on the point.
Sanguinius: "I foresee at great burn coming."
Fulgrim: "I hear you do strange things to your ships."
Sanguinius: "Maybe that was..."
THE Khan: "I hear you do strange things to your warriors."
Sanguinius: "Nope, there it is!"
I love the double entendre: he's both calling him a heretic AND gay, suggesting he's fucking his own dudes. Salamanders can't burn with flamers, as hot as the Khan can burn with this words.
Khan is pretty great. I love his interactions with Russ and Sanguinius during the heresy.
The thing I love about the Khan is, even his "Lack of popularity and attention" within the lore community is lore accurate. That's his superpower.
I can just picture the Scars on their bike riding the planes and listening to the Hu while the spirit of Ghengis watches from the eternal blue sky
Sad but true.
I wish we got to see more of the khan, he's one of my favorite primarchs.
I actually discovered mongolian rock band "The HU" and the mongolian astetic is very cool to me. Ive actually writing a fantasy with a major playor being mongolian
The Hu is very mainstream, try to branch out, here are some starters:
9 Treasures
Tengger Cavalry (they no longer make music due to their singer committing suicide)
@@Filther-13 thanks ill try and look into it,
@@Filther-13 Mongolian folk metal isn't exactly what I'd call mainstream
I like the Hu, I prefer Alien Weaponry and Shepards Reign though.
@@Mare_Man
Oh you sweet newfriend
The Khans response to Fulgrim is amazing "you have some reputation as a swordsman brother, but I make no boast when I tell you I would leave you choking on it." This in and of itself would make Jaghatai in my top three favorite primarchs. When you add everything else up though it's no contest as to why he is my favorite.
I think I finally understand what chaos really is in the context of 40k. Like chaos in it's normal state is like a pin ball going all haywire inside of the pin ball machine hitting and colliding with the walls and maze like obstructions inside of said machine making all kind of noises and a light show. It's entertaining and interesting to watch. Another analogy could be diffusion of potassium permanganate in water or bromine in air. On the molecular and atomic level in the case of bromine all the molecules and atoms are moving haphazardly and spontaneous in the fluid medium in order to take up space. Even Radioactive decay is a practical use of chaos due to definition of what half life is and how nuclear fission works.
Now in 40k, chaos is just a bastardization of the very concept of chaos itself. It's like if a group of hooligans go into said bar just to destroy the pin ball machine, then beat as much people in the bar and if they fail summon some demons to slaughter the entire town for no reason.
Then the imperium is a "solution" to chaos but it's akin to sawing of your arms after a jellyfish sting instead of applying anti venom to the wound or any proper medical treatment besides sawing going vrrrr.
You're on to something. 'Chaos' in Warhammer is lifted from Michael Moorcock's fiction, the difference being that in Moorcock there's always Law to counterbalance Chaos, but never actually defeat it since they both need eachother in the end.
Warhammer - being 'grimdark' - left the Law part out, but clearly there is a sort of 'Law shaped hole' in the lore, and it's natural that The Imperium is molded by that shape in some ways.
for me chaos like lae ke then living people in materium do bad stuff slaneesh comes in then bad things then khorne comes in etc etc emperor plan is breed more children more more more power live for the emperor maybe not die so early on so whos guide next generations then die then fight again jn tihe warp with emperor while they do decimate carnage and rip and tear oj n the level of doom slayer and make dormant state instead of waves and tides
so basically violence is the o solution to chaos spawns kill and kill until none left but remember to do fast and agresive atleast faster than chaos spawn chaos spawns
kinda ...
@@reikowallach2465 Chaos and order need one another to survive. If only order exist, everything will be perpetually stagnant to the point of imploding on itself. If only chaos exists everything will go tits up belly up like cockroach and explode all over.
@@jonathanathor117 Yup, that's exactly what Moorcock was going for.
Imagine if rylanor returned as a part of the legion of the damned
That would be freaking awesome.
“IVE RETURN TO EAT SNAKE A A A S S” - big purple box
@@nil981 I mantain there would be initial confusion on how they got a giant flaming Titan, before realizing it's a giant flaming Dred. Because Rylanor's spirit was just that damn big.
Emperor's Children: HA HA HA, NOTHING CAN STOP US!!! What... what is?...
Rylanor: *I'M BACK BITCHES!!!*
@@weldonwin Emperor's Children: NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Fulgrim: NOT HIM ANYONE BUT HIM!!!!!!!
With the (likely) reintroduction of Angron to 40k alongside his World Eaters, I'm thinking if we might get Jaghatai back with his White Scars (otherwise Guilliman is going to be 1 vs. 3 against the Traitor Primarchs).
I think the return of Jagathai should be connected to the eldar, in particular through Cegorach's war on Slaanesh, so it would make sense for him to return with Fulgrim to 40k, so in either 10th or 11th edition, after a more popular loyalist primarch returns...
@@AdriWan Yeah, but with the Ynnari shelved, I think it would be a longtime before they will continue the fight with Slaanesh.
I think Lion is the most likely to return next. I have this feeling that the Fallen might be a 10th edition release reveal. It would certainly fit with the Horus Heresy release in terms of synergy. The Fall of Cadia and return of the fallen would pair really well.
I'm hoping corax comes back full doom slayer style
Pretty sure one of the space wolves books confirms that jaghatai and the lion are the next to come back.
Khan makes me wanna play White Scars ngl. He's that badass and well written
Hooray for the Great Khan! Also could you do a video of what if the Emperor failed in the Unification Wars and died? Would the galaxy be more at peace or in a worst state without the Imperium?
0:17 Ferrus Manus is quite uninspired as his Legion is literally named Iron Hands while his name literally means Iron Hands.
And yet his hands were not in fact made of iron
Majorkill could you please do a video about Ragnar Blackmane. Because I feel like he is another underated character that has allot of potential for the future of 40k.
He was done justice in the Space Wolves novels, mostly as a young marine climbing thru the ranks (with some shenanigans along the way) and smaller portions inbetween chapters as a wolf lord he becomes during, good read too.
G'day Majorkill,
idk if you go back and read new comments on old videos, but I wanted to thank you for your telling of lore and funny explanations. I've been in WH40K for all of about 5 months now, and I'm getting close-ish to finishing my first army, being White Scars. You're explanations of the Scars and Jaghatai in particular led to my love of the space mongols. You're the best and I love to keep seeing your content.
Cheers from Kansas City
"I should have taken on the Legion Master. I should have fought Typhon."
His actual power is school grade
Thank you! The Khan is by far the most underrated Primarch. You did a great job!!!!! Again. Well Done!
Having recently finished the released Horus Heresy and Siege of Terra novels, Jaghatai became my favourite Primarch.
The Khan and the white scars are my favorites
I back the, painting white was so shit to do in the "old days" (up there with yellow), had a big impact on popularity. Lore wise The Khan is awesome.
Also probably his closest friend and Allie is a human woman that is basically the pseudo 2nd in command. Now that’s cool
My personal fav primarch is sanguinius but the khan is dope also this video made me realize that the khan in some way kinda looks up to sanguinius or really respects him I mean sanguinius was able to make him laugh one and he asked sanguinius if he could leave to save lives it just seems he really respects and cares for what he has to say
As a White Scars player, I approve this message!
I wish Sanguinius didn't die. I'm usually the friend that is caught in the middle and tries to mediate and Sanguinius resonates heavy with me
I stumbled on to a white scars book, and I was blown away by how cool they were. Changed my perspective for sure.
The greater demon fight was super dank too
I really want a While Scars animation...with music by the Hu.
Currently two of my most favorite Primarchs, The Khan and Corvus is out there, beating the shit out of their enemies.
The Khan is blazing through the Dark Eldars while Corvus is hunting down Lorgar to the point the fucker hide in his tower and gave excuses that he is meditating to his sons.
Jaghatai has the universal asian superpower to deliver a burn so powerful that it has the reader going “damn,” out loud
There was also his last conversation with his traitor brother Magnus,
Khan: I have what I came for, brother. You can only give me one piece of knowledge I truly desire.
Magnus: And what is that?
Khan: How to restore you.
No insults. No death threats. No grief and anger that devolved into screaming fits of rage like so many other conversations between loyalist and traitor Primarchs.
Just two brothers who still deeply respected one another despite finding themselves on opposite sides of a massive galaxy-spanning war. Magnus wasn’t beyond reason like Curze was, so the Khan held on to the hope that his brother could one day renounce Chaos and return to humanity’s side and Magnus was genuinely moved by his brother’s steadfast belief in him.
Your add plug was amazing.
My favorite Primarch next to Sanguinius. Being reasonable sure is a god-like ability in the 40k universe.
Im a dark angel through and through, but i have to say, after listening to the TTS podcast episode about the scars of chogoris, they’ll always be my second favorite
As soon as I read Scars, they became my favourite legion. Warhawk of Chogoris sealed the deal.
Being unknowable and unpredictable is as formidable a skill as swordsmanship
speed is such a huge advantage in any battle, you can just endlessly flank the enemy
plus, what type of vanguard troop can take a full speed hoverbike to the head?
none, I'd say
Ferrus and the Khan have the best meetings with the Emperor
video idea: what would’ve happened if fulgrim and jaghatai both landed on the same world
Really glad you did this video. The Khan is my favorite primarch
This video made me think one tiny thing :
Jaghatai heresy...
I don't know why but this is making my imagination go wild
I've always differentiated between favourite Primarchs and favourite Legions, and further by favourite Legions by lore, colouration, and gameplay. Jaghatai has always been my favourite loyalist Primarch, and the White Scars my favourite loyalist legion in the lore(Space Mongols were cool long before Chris Wraight). But I could never paint white worth a shit, and I was never particularly fond of the bike models(or the jetbikes, when they came out), so I never built an army.
The Khan is one of the best examples of specialized tactics for Astartes. The legions were designed to function as a united fighting force, whether on the same battlefield or spread out in separate theatres.
While most legions try to "out melee flex" each other with chainsword measuring, the White Scars have a unique usefulness in maneuvers.
My favorite primarch from now on. Thank you for this video.
Great rundown- Jakhatai Khan is a beast!
I dont agree that fulgrim was such an ineffective traitor primarch at all though.
he is one of the traitors that’s had the biggest impact on the setting - first he deleted Ferrus Manus and later he mortally wounded guilliman who was knocked out of commission for 10.000 years by fulgrim.
One can only imagine what the empire would be like if guilliman had been active for 10.000 years until now. The empire would likely had been a lot more efficient.
Compare Fulgrims feats with angron’s or Konrad’s who both did fuck all in comparison.
Because that white scars White was fucked before you even open the bottle.
This is the most deserving burn about GW paints. Fitting that it's made in a video about the Primarch that always sends the harshest burns.
A well-written book made Jaghatai Khan memorable now.
At this point, Ferrus Manus is probably the most forgotten or underrated Primarch. He's known for having iron hands and dying early.
Corvus Corax and Alpharius Omegon are also underused, but that's the way they want it. Beneath notice. They're stealth specialists.
He’s the man. While all the other high profile loyalist primarchs were fannying around navel gazing with imperium secundus he was busting his arse to ensure he’d be there for the big dance on Terra to make the difference.
That part about the difficulty of painting his legion hits hard. Holy crap is it a migraine to work with certain tones of white and make it look good.
As a man who is attempting to design an alien race based off the Mongols, I can say with confidence I don't find the Mongolians uninteresting. "Knights are cooler than Mongolians" I hear you say? The medieval knights didn't carve out the second largest empire in history. (I don't hate knights, I love knights, I'm just saying.)
As a Mongolian and Warhammer fan I must love the white scars and I do
Vulkan and Khan would be really great buds. Not only because of their concern for humanity but because of Khan's sick burns being a metaphorical flamer weapon.
Part of the issue he is overlooked is because the White Scars WERE shallow and only "Mongols in Space" for so long. There simply wasn't much ABOUT THEM. They were AT the Siege of Terra...and that was about it.
Then came Chris Wraight. Scars and the Path of Heaven single handedly gave them character and elevated the Khan to his glorious status.
It even took the meta narrative, them being forgotten, and turned into a plot point. They were the consummate outsiders by choice, following their own path. Seeing the Imperium as A path, but not THE path, and even being EMBARASSED that they (who practiced poetry, music, art and other cultural pursuits) were compared to Russ' dumbass puppies.
They even mention the multiple nations the Khan had conquered...but not ELIMINATED. That was key.
The Khan and his Legion never wanted to STAGNATE, always pushing on to the next horizon.
Freaking cool.
Annndd as Majorkill mentioned, fairly level headed. Even with warpcraft. Basically BE SUPER FREAKING CAUTIOUS WITH IT.
MY BOY! FINALLY HE IS GETTING SOME LOVE. Thanks to my fav 40K lore Aus, giving my boy some love.
Jaghatai also chocked a Slaanesh demon and ripped it's heart out for saying 'harder daddy' 💥
If I ever did a 40k story, I would have to bring the great Kahn into it. He is my favorite loyalist even above Dorn. I just love his entire aesthetic.
He is great and has my vote to come back next in the lore.
Fulgrim: i hear you do unnatural things to your ships
Jag: i hear you do unnatural things to your men
"Despite his prowess, Jaghatai would never brag or exaggerate his exploit"
So, a perfect guy to "eternally" kill Lucius The Eternal
They need to up date the Minotaurs and give them a army book
That white scar paint comment is accurate as hell.
Mate the karn is so fucking cool i love this dude so much im currently listening to the heresy book of him
As a Mongolian myself I appreciate this very much
I fucking love you, you ozy nerd
was just thinking how hes free will smart lad and white scars cool af
,,Only one unforgivable lie exists:
You, Conqueror, have accomplished everything and all you have to do is to build high walls, where you can finally rest. For the world is finally safe.
All emperors are liars."
Powerful words from a truly powerful man...
(Might not be the exact quote, I had to translate, but still favourite)
My two favourite (loyalist) primarchs are Corvus and Khan, but the white paint pushed me to play Raven Guard rather than White Scars
Normally you're spot on with alot of these but I gotta point out that when it comes to "roasting kids" Vulkan has got the Khan beat.
"Gotta go fast." Jaghatai Khanic the Hedgehog
My custom space marines are proud sons of the khan mostly because I liked the aesthetic of their psyker powers.
Jaghatai seems like he would win any melee fight with speed force, except his direct counter or other warp fuckery. What good is feints if he can react and move faster then his opponent?
did Horus have a way to counter him?
Ah yes, the only primarch aside from Guilliman that was a well adjusted adult.
I’m just glad I’m not the only one who has issues with “white scars white”
White Scars and Salamanders are my favorite legions.
I am happy that the khan finally gets some more love!
“Knights being cooler than Mongolians” didn’t save knights from getting their shit pushed in by the Mongols
white scar and salamanders are my two 2 SM armies
8:25 so khan can do spinjitzu
Jaghatai was the first primarch I heard of with Gulliman being the second. I loved the guy immediately followed up by Vulcan and Sanguiness. Vulcan for his kindness and Sany boy for his combat prowess.
"Sanguinius has better wings" lmao.
Jaghatai is the first loyalist I want to return in 40K and work with Guilliman.
Orks fighting Jaghatai is like fighting a plainsclothe Swadian or a Khergit with a Hafted Blade or the greatsword in M&B multiplayer, he's too fast and too lethal, Orks wanna play Chiv 2 where it's all just chaotic combat with some skill involved.
Weirdly enough I make everyone legion i buy (2500 points) use outriders and attack bikes because i love that the other legions use more vehicles like the white scars
Already watched it but youtube recommended and since Jaghatai Khan is for sure the most awesome primarch so here I go again!
Also, why can I not like twice?!
My first 40k paint scheme was WHITE SCARS
its pretty smart to add different cultures to the 40k world.
I still miss when u used to greet us with"G'day fuckheads" lmao good times good times 😅😆 but yea the khan is suuper underrated especially after he ripped the heart out of a keeper of secrets
You're 100% right here!
Is that stuff with eldar joker god actually in Warhammer? Or just fan theory? If it is, this is crazy
Really, a geopolitical real world reference in a lore video
It won't age well
Imagine if the Khan was made Warmaster. He woulda had chaos running for the hills
Just finished warhawk and needless to say i am on the khan hype train atm
I'm starting to think I know who the Progeny of the Reasonable Marines is
As a Bulgarian myself I love this Khan lmao.
Overall even though the roast was great, i still think that a pre heresy fulgrim would have still kick the khan's ass because he annihilated ferrus when seriously trying to hold back
The Khan is the most straightforward no bullshit Uber Chad primarch.
The closest thing to a normal Primarch - the intended result
Warhawk was fucking great, Jaghatai is a absolute Unit.
Someone read history about Chingis khan’s history and put it here it’s just like how he lived
What book is the fight between Mr. Kahn & Mr Super- hypocrite Morty in? I'm assuming it's over of the siege of terra series