Wescott and Hort’s Occult Connections - Dr. Phil Stringer
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- Dr. Phil Stringer exposes the occult connections and practices of the men behind the Critical text of modern Bible versions.
KJBRC National Conference 2017
www.kjbrc.org/wescott-and-hor...
I would reference several bibles (KJV, NASB, ESV, NKJV) for my in-depth study till I found who were the ones (Westcott & Hort) behind the tampering of God's Word. i cannot deny that it was kind of overwhelming studying from several versions. I thank God for churches that stand for the preserved Word of God. I got rid off of all my other translations. Now, I love opening the KJV and know that I'm reading God's Word in its entirety without any doubt. Thank God for people like you and many others who defend God's Word while encouraging others to do the same. May God bless you immensely Dr. Stringer. Shalom!
What scripture says that the KJV is the "preserved word of God"? None at all, just more lies, deceptions, and delusions from the KJV only cult. The lies that have been told about Westcott and Hort by the KJV cult are outrageous. Especially from serial liar and KJV only heretic Gail Riplinger. Thank God for better more accurate translations we have been blessed with today. The KJV idolaters are just a bunch of liars.
I have to say I always enjoy listening to Dr Stringer. This Sermon has lead me to evaluate some of my beliefs.
Ive read H.P Blavatsky (leading Occultist modern) and Blavatsky mentions how she was holding SEANCES regularly with Westcott. Blavatsky was Westcott's friend & she says she approved of Westcotts work!!
Jehovahs witness NWT Bible is based on Westcott and Horts work.
JW's Watchtower translation comitee, has said it itself, in it's 2013 NWT edition, that they based their translations upon the Wescott and Hort text, and even Johann Greber's, the former catholic priest and occultist to whom presumably, angels were talking to? And still, JW are right to teach not to practice spiritism, to run away from it as far as you can, because such detestable works of the flesh, forbid to inherit the Kingdom of God...and that God will destroy you at Armageddon if you persist in such a sin. But isn't it shocking that they so much contradict themselves at this point, using the the works of spiritism practitioners, while condemning spiritism ?
@@francoisbeland7188 yes and in one of their Greek Interlinear translations they actually admit that they had input from Jesuit 'scholars'!!!!
Can you tell me which books that she referring to him in? I’m interested in creating a video to expose that connection. But would rather not read all her materials to find it lol
Great to hear people who are aware of these two men. God bless Dr Stringer!
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@@springsofsalvationministries
Is that defending Wescott and Hort?
@@whatspoppinn1632it's trying to😂
Thank you for the teaching.
Dr. Stringer you're so interesting & informative, breaking it all down to a simple, yet profound understanding. And you're funny! Teaching it all with a witty sense of humor! I Love it! Thank You Dr. Stringer for keeping it Scripturally "real", Doctrinally "sound" while spiced & peppered with your unique humor! God Bless You!
One thing to note, this was really interesting and I was blessed by this. I don't wanna be splitting hairs, but the preacher said 3 beings when talking about the trinity. It's 3 persons 1 being.
I'm sure he just fumbled the ball. Just wanted to clarify we need to be clear about that phrasing if we are gonna talk theology
Great video ! Very informative !
Thank you, Dr. Stringer.
Amen! Great teaching.
Thanks so much for this talk... I've been looking into the occult connections on this issue because there are Jehovah's witnesses I've begun witnessing to, and I heard that their NT comes from the Westcott and Hort version.
David W Daniels discovered Charles T Russel got his unbelief in the Trinity or deity of Christ directly from the RSV. In fact Daniel's book "Look whats missing shows the New World Translations follow the text of the new per-versions most closely!
@@anthonyeusebius5834Anybody who falls for the circular reasoning of David W Daniels and his conspiracies are truly deceived. But that is true of anyone who has been bewitched by the KJV only heresy.
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@@springsofsalvationministriesliars
Such an important presentation ❤
Very good.
Amazing
I WAS DISAPPOINTED BY PHIL STRINGER’S badly researched writings against Gail Riplinger BUT he does preach some good material at these conferences; I suppose we can’t be right all the time and would do well to check our facts. Thanks Phil and the KJBRC.
Have not seen it, but this one on Westcott and Hort is good and he leaves out a lot more that would have been good to put it. Just say Westcott and Hort had an agenda. Gail has been a God send in hard times. Christians are attacked daily on TV, stay the course and read daily.
@@Tellgryn amen!
What research writing about Gail Riplinger he said about her.She is KJV.😮😮😮 I must have missed what was said.
@@terrywashington9411 Phil wrote a book a few years back titled “Gail Riplinger’s Occult Connections” that really was badly researched sensationalism. At the time, he appeared to support the Critical Text translations of the Bible so it seemed like a typical CT attack but as he gradually accepted the Received Text he kept digging at Gail Riplinger and it all seemed to get a bit personal; I suspected he wanted to maintain the stance he’d taken in his book, maybe to keep sales going. I tried to contact Phil, I like a lot of his presentations, but didn’t really get anywhere so gave up trying but I’d still like a chance, if possible, to see if there’s something I’ve missed. As you say, keep reading, we’re none of us right all the time and Gail has provided some good material.
@@craftyajay9495Pastor Rob Carlson of Golden Plains testified to me (Dante Wolfe) that Gail Riplinger testified unto him in a phone call that she did not believe there was a perfect Bible. Do what you want with that.
Glad I found this channel! Excellent video!
I recently ordered a Regular Facsimile 1611 KJV and I'm so excited to study it and use it to show how accurate the preserved Word of God is. I will pass it down in my family forever! Such an awesome piece of history, and it even comes with a Certified antique leaf (page) from an early edition KJV that is around 400 years old!
I love the KJV and even more, I love our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! God bless
+TruthAddict
"Glad I found this channel! Excellent video! "
WHY and HOW? It's a false cult - in the order of Watchtower -
"I recently ordered a Regular Facsimile 1611 KJV"
Did you get all the pictures of the Catholic saints that were in the ORIGINAL? The references to PURGATORY and OTHER Romish and Papist content of the 1611 KJB?
" and I'm so excited to study it and use it to show how accurate the preserved Word of God is."
How will that prove anything unless you can actually read the Greek and HEBREW texts to compare? Where do you find 1 JOHN 5:7 in ANY original Greek? Even Erasmus - who INSERTED that into his THIRD editions claimed his Greek - the source for the KJB was UNLIKE any previous Greek text in the WORLD - BUT you think you can find ACCURACY in the KJB?
NOT there.
" I will pass it down in my family forever! "
WHY? SPIRITUALLY, for people of GOD, it would be better BURNED or treated as a historical relic, than studied. MODERN ACCURATE Bibles are far more relevant t and informative of what the SPIRIT of GOD said to the CHURCH.
"Such an awesome piece of history, and it even comes with a Certified antique leaf (page) from an early edition KJV that is around 400 years old! "
There is a sucker born every minute . . .
"I love the KJV "
YOU are deceived, to be sure.
"and even more, I love our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! God bless"
BUT the KJB says what the WATCHTOWER says - that he is SAVIOUR but NOT God - that the Holy Spirit is an 'IT' and NOT a 'person' - is that possible to accept and still love Him?
@@paulrobinson9318 the Translator To The Reader makes very clear how they felt about the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope. Spoke highly against them. Nothing you said here is based in facts. Just pure ignorance.
Watchtower??? Are you kidding?? 😂😂 That's a first. Haven't heard that ridiculous claim yet. If you were half the Christian you pretend to be then you would've approached this with love. But you just act like a typical ❄️ 🤡.
@@paulrobinson9318 wait a second, are you the old man that spent 6 days in a row arguing with me on Chick Tracts TH-cam channel less than a month ago? 🤣 Wow. Do you do this full time? Like a proper shill. Smh. Shame on you. You gave up on our debate over there because you got owned. And now you're trying again over here. You didn't realize I changed my screen name recently. Oops. You ain't gonna fool me 🤡
You would think you'd spend more time with your wife than you do insulting random people in comment sections. God's not gonna be too happy when you meet Him. It appears you've been looking into Westcott and Hort's occultic beliefs. Too bad you still don't get it.
If anybody reads this, this guy actually defended the NIV.. and calls the KJV a Catholic corruption but yet the Catholic Church literally endorses the NIV while the KJV very clearly speaks against the Roman Catholic Church in the "Translator To The Reader" section. Smh. Poor fella; couldn't see truth if it were taped to his forehead every morning.
+@@SixStringSlinger1
YOUR name is false advertising, you know . . . YOU neither seek it nor are addicted to it - JUST like before.
"@Paul Robinson wait a second, are you the old man that spent 6 days in a row arguing with me on Chick Tracts TH-cam channel less than a month ago?"
Could be - unlike you I do NOT live to spread NONSENSE on the internet. BUT I will correct heresy when it comes calling.
NO matter - Chick is STILL both a liar and a heretic . . .
"🤣 Wow. Do you do this full time?"
DO you? I DON'T initiate contcts, but I DO respond . . .
"Like a proper shill."
YES, you do act like a shill . . .
" Smh. Shame on you."
That's for GOD to say - your opinion has NO value - since you are spreading anti-gospel and heresy
" You gave up on our debate over there because you got owned. "
Again you lie. I doubt you could own anyone.
"And now you're trying again over here.
FUNNY - YOU posted your NONSENSE to a site that came up on my screen - I wasn't looking for you.
"You didn't realize I changed my screen name recently. Oops. You ain't gonna fool me 🤡"
WHY would I care? Whats to realize? A different name for outhouse efflent does NOT make it smell sweet.
"You would think you'd spend more time with your wife than you do insulting random people in comment sections."
Actually I do this when my wife is busy - NOT that its any business of yours . . .
"God's not gonna be too happy when you meet Him."
I doubt that - BUT the lies and blasphemy and heresy YOU spread is OBVIOUS to any BIBLICAL person. GOD noted that.
"It appears you've been looking into Westcott and Hort's occultic beliefs."
I have and as I POINTED out to you before - you are STILL lying . . .
" Too bad you still don't get it."
TOO bad you are still lying.
excellent,true
46:50 I have copies of several modern Bibles such as the ESV, NASB, CSB, HCSB, NKJV, NIV, etc. and most of them tell you clearly in the introduction what source texts they used for translation (e.g. Nestle-Aland, or United Bible Societies, along with the edition). I haven't seen any reputable translations that don't follow this practice. But you DO need to read the introduction to find out.
United Bible Society is a puppet of Wescott and Horts just as the American Bible Society is. Any of these publishers are working with the Jesuits to undermine the KJV. Watch 'A Lamp in the Dark' and you'll find out. There is plenty more about the evil purposes of Wescott and Horts and their connections to the Jesuits online, too.
Many never read those little letters...is better to have a pure scripture without mixing with crap...
@@48lilyofthevalley thanks for mentioning that documentary. I noticed there is a second and third part to it as well. Now I've got some more material to listen to. Appreciate it! God bless
That's not what they were translated from. Those are attempts at hiding what they're really translated from.
@@SixStringSlinger1what documentary? The link /comment is shadow banned
The sound keeps messing up
Accurate report.
Dr M Ward and the Bible Confidence Coalition have presented an excellent video that shows how these arguments are not only incorrect but are also perhaps malicious.
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Beginning @54:39. Now we can more clearly understand what our King was referring to when He explained in the parable of the wheat and tares..."while men slept..." 😢
By the way, I do not condemn anyone merely for having researched or looked into paranormal phenomena without actually participating in the occult. During my teenage years and on up into my late twenties, I read hundreds of books on a wide variety of things related to UFOs, ghosts, ESP, the Bermuda Triangle, astral projection, strange beings, and other spooky events. But I did so strictly from a Christian perspective, always grounded on the Bible as my foundation, covered by the blood of Christ as a believer, and praying that God would protect me from falling into error. Whatever I learned from such personal studies, I never simply accepted what I read at face value, even if it seemed to make sense intellectually. I always came back and compared it with what the Bible said was truth, often allowing years to pass before God gave me sufficient understanding to reach a final conclusion. I don't read about such things any more because I finally satisfied my curiosity to where I comprehend how such phenomena can exist without contradicting scripture, either as completely undiscovered or very poorly understood features of the natural world, or as outright manifestations from another spiritual dimension. However, there is one extremely important distinction I must draw here. With a few very minor exceptions like trying to test my own ESP ability, I never actively sought out anything related to such paranormal phenomena. In fact, as I got older and wiser, the more I knew and understood such things, the less I wanted to have anything to do with them! Again, my discernment in this regard comes not from my own personal efforts but from the wisdom with which God has gifted me and from His supernatural protection. Anyone who chooses to deliberately dabble in the occult is playing with fire, and unless they fully repent, they will inevitably have their perspective of God and the Bible warped from such experiences.
+Mark L
Neither did B F Westcott - the drivel about HIM involvement is largely false - W W Westcott WAS the founder of several spiritist groups - BUT he is a different person altogether - Riplinger claims he was an alter ego of B F - he was NOT.
A spiritist writer was King James - his book is available on Amazon today.
While Westcott DID do some limited investigation - NOT to the point of belief - into spirits in university -he concluded there was nothing to be gained and maybe much to loose in any investigation of such. I have NO idea where these false reports come from. SRY - they BOTH hankered for the catholic ways - BUT that was NO reason to misjudge their texts unfairly - Textual criticism does NOT usually affect observable sciences like textual criticism.
Friend, IF you are defending these wicked and purposely evil men, in any way, you know NOT of which you speak. You have much more reading to do. Maranatha!
+@@oksills Unfortunately your statements is as false as can be - and your paradigm deliberately twisted from the truth.
" these wicked and purposely evil men,"
YOU have not the slightest evidence for your belief and statements - and IT is you that has been deliberately deceived and needs to learn.
Those that bash W & H for the most part are KJO cultists - and lying for the cult - particularly THAT cult - seems a requisite.
YOU need to actually listen to FACTS rather then the DELIBERATE slanders and rewritings of the Biblical terrorists.
Here's an example of the DELIBERATE lies made from the FACTS:
The CLAIM:
"False claim #1: “Writing that his father had a lifelong “faith in what for lack of a better name, one must call Spiritualism,” the son of famed biblical Greek text editor B. F. Westcott admits to considerable public alarm at his father’s activity.” (Jack Chick, Battle Cry, July/August 1993 issue)"
The REAL undoctored and HONEST quote:
"“What happened to this Guild in the end I have not discovered. My father ceased to interest himself in these matters, not altogether, I believe, from want of faith in what, for lack of a better name, one must call Spiritualism, but because he was seriously convinced that such investigations led to no good.” (Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, Vol. I, p.119)
There are several problems with the claim as made by Chick and Riplinger. First, and most importantly, notice that the quote had “want of” (lack of, e.g. Psalm 23:1) chopped off the front.. Westcott did not have “faith” in Spiritualism, he had “want of [(lack of)] faith” in Spiritualism. Secondly, it was one of two reasons he ceased to interest himself in the the matters the Guild was involved in, shortly after it was formed (notice Chick and Riplinger both falsely use the word “lifelong”). Thirdly, nothing in the quote (or surrounding material) even hints at “public alarm”, let alone “considerable” or even Westcott’s son admitting such. Chick’s claim is completely fabricated, and the quote he chopped to support his claim actually says the exact opposite when the context is examined. The entire quote is somewhat difficult to parse as it stands, but it’s easier to breakdown if viewed as follows: “Westcott ceased, not altogether (not entirely) from want (lack) of faith in Spiritualism, but also because such investigations led to no good.” Was the reason that Westcott ceased due to want (lack) of faith in Spiritualism? Yes, but it was “not altogether” the reason - it was also because “he was seriously convinced that such investigations led to no good.”-Ray McIntyre"
christianpublishinghouse.co/2019/03/28/can-we-trust-the-westcott-and-hort-1881-greek-text-were-westcott-and-hort-occultist-unbelievers/
There are dozens of examples of deliberate deception taught by the KJO cultsts you appear to subscribe to . . .
Lies, fabrications misleading insertions and removals of key words - typical and consistent in ALL KJO cultic attacks on the Scripture and its untarnished reliability apart from the KJ and TR corruptions.
"Friend, IF you are defending these wicked and purposely evil men, in any way, you know NOT of which you speak. You have much more reading to do. Maranatha!"
@@paulrobinson9318 go to hell hort and wescott were Jesuits
+@@iskaykabeya609
WHY do you so CONSISTENTLY lie?
'BY their FRUITS you will know them' - your FRUITS are deception, lies and curses.
"@Paul Robinson go to hell hort and wescott were Jesuits"
YOU cannot even SUGGEST any EVIDENCE for that - BOTH were ANGLICANS - and WESTCOTT was very evangelical - he would fit right in with your baptist cult on EVERY issue other than infant baptism.
And your language tells me you do NOT have the SPIRIT of GOD indwelling you - you speak lies and curses and think you can also worship GOD ?
YOU are so TERRIBLY deceived by your false cult.
YOUR opinion has NO value - and its CONTRARY to EVERY fact, not to mention SCRIPTURE.
Thank you so much Dr. Stringer for your clear teaching. I loved the book by Jesse Penn Lewis but have forgotten a lot of it.. I particularly want to thank you for revealing what "the communion of the saints" means, because I always thought it meant communion between us saints. These things are so important. It is amazingly easy to be mislead. I have been mislead so often that I can only thank God in great humility for His gracious intervention in leading me back to the truth. I have always been a very liberal person in my thinking so coming to a steadfast position on the infallibility and authority of scripture has been the biggest battle of my life. Thank you for helping me in my walk with the Lord.
2:30 And so we see, the kingdom has been given to the saints the most high!
What is the book referenced @ 30:15
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There is a vast difference between the “charismatic movement” and Pentecostal Christians. Charismania is much different than believing the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still for today.
Wycliffe's Chruch is in lutterworth England
6:38-6:44 sound cuts out
2.Corinthians.2:3-6
3For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
6And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.
This is excellent!
Old books are the best! Never burn them!
Hi there, May i ask where do u think u will go when u die u dont have to answer if u dont want to?
Hi AY, I KNOW where I will be when my time on earth is over. I am a born again believer and disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ by the grace of God. The Apostle Paul explains "..........absent from the body, to be present with the Lord (2 Cor 5:8). Jesus explains to Nicodemus in John 3 and read also Romans 10, I suggest. True followers of the living God are the only people that know for certain where they are going at life's end on earth. If you are not a believer then I would encourage you to buy a King James Bible (Cambridge Press) and start with John's Gospel. Ask God to guide you and believe the Bible as it is written. Don't bother with Churches that have modern heretic so called 'bibles'. I pray you receive Christ as your Lord and saviour.
"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." 2 Corinthians 11:13-15.
Can't seem to find the word demon in my King James Bible. A demon, according to the pagan, can be either good or bad. King James Bible correctly calls them devils.
I used to be NIV positive.
THANK YOU FRIENDS
How cool is this,ty.
I like the general tone of this presentation but I am afraid sometimes in an effort to steer the church back onto the right path we overshoot the road sometimes. The passage from Timothy that is quoted which commands us to "try" every spirit does not teach to "reject" every spirit. To attribute every supenatural encounter to either lunacy, or deception/lying or demons is to run counter to the spirit of that very scripture.
"Believe not every spirit." This is quite clear.
I am thankful for you giving me a better understanding of A LOT.
“Devout people on the small scale are (thank God !) common enough. The life of every society is freshened and beautified by their simple faith and love. But my father's was a devotion on what may be truthfully called the very grandest scale. As such it was exposed to a certain misconstruction. "Unsound" or "shadowy" or "mystical" were terms often applied to him. There were even who doubted, through misunderstanding of the man, his fidelity to the very foundations of the Faith. But to all who came near to him the irresistible truth was certainly brought home, that here was a servant of Christ who served Him every day and all the day.” --Canon Westcott
Source: Westcott, Arthur, Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, London: Macmillan & Co., 1903, Vol. 1, page ix.
I really appreciate you for bringing these quotes here. Actually, you saved my time! Was going to do it myself but was glad to see you already did it!
+ Joseph Jo
Never trust a KJO cultist to be honest OR accurate in their presentation.
If the liberal scholars were right and it was just the thought that matters (and by thought it's there thought not God's) and the wording doesn't matter than were without hope. How can we know Jesus was God if God can't preserve his own word.
It really comes down to if there's an omnipotent omnipowerful God who made us and redeemed us by his blood he would surely have been able to preserve his word in a clear manner. And he did. There was zero real dispute until the 1800s
God told us in the Bible this exactly kind of thing would happen. The end is near, the antichrist will arise soon. I feel he's likely already been born
14. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15. That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
(John, 3)
What did Bill Gothard say? (p.s. Just remember, the judgment you judge with is the same judgment you will be judged with. Just saying.)
You may want to correct the title’s spelling so more people can find this. Should read “Westcott and Hort’s…”
Did any of the translators of the KJV believe in/practice the communion of saints?
The bible code is an amazing phenomenon that would have been impossible without the verbal inspiration of the Bible. My life is based on the truth of the Bible.
What is the bible code ?
W&H used classical Greek. They didn't use Koine Greek
Jeremiah.2:11-14
11Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.
12Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD.
13For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.
Which Greek text uses Wescott and Hort’s ideas as historical fact.
Please tell me it is not the Strong's Hebrew and Greek Dictionary.
They hated the TR and KJV.
They heard and sought the Codices Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. W&H sought a new revised Bible. Problem is the two codices don't agree in many places yet, the two made changes and deletions to fit their beliefs.
Note: they denied the atonement of Christ and likened to Mary worship.
Almost every modern Bible has ties to W&H.
I do not know that anything remains to be said. My purpose in writing this memoir of my father will have singularly failed if those who have followed the story of his life do not feel that it was a life grand in its consistency, full in its achievement, and beautiful in its earthly close. Our Christian Faith assures us that it is not ended yet. He is, as he was, "in Christ."
Arthur Westcott, Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, London: Macmillan & Co., 1903, Vol. 2, page 405.
+@@kingston163
Again - a deceived cultist apologizing for the LIES and SLANDER and BLASPHEMY of theit false cult.
WHY not actually RESEARCH the CORRUPTION of the KJ rather than BLINDLY and IOGNORANTLY attack those intelligent and GODLY people that POINT out its MANY errors - and that Westcott was nothing but a GODLY and HUMBLE, well educated, born again, man of GOD.
Should not have a government flag in a church. D.C. does not have a CROSS in any building.
You have never been in a Southern Baptist Church. In Vacation Bible School we would begin each session by pledging allegiance to both the American and Christian flags and still do!
@@bultacomk2no man can serve two masters either he will love the one and hate the other.
Pledging to any other but God alone is idolatry.
So I'm just wondering, what about other languages and people who aren't fluent in English? What bible do they read? What are the manuscripts that are authentic? My husband is mainly a spanish speaker and luv is hard for him to understand. Not all of it but a lot. It's easy for us cause we can figure out what different words mean cause old English and the English now is so close together but when English isn't your first language or when you may not be very educated then what do you do? And I'm not trying to debate, I myself use a KJV Bible, although I was given a niv when I was 1 so I used to read that along side. But what spanish Bible? He has one with New King James Version next to it. I don't know why they can't just come out with a revised kjv bible without making any doctrine changes but just fix some of the words...
I'm German. Use the Martin Luther Bible 1912 Stuttgarter Ausgabe. And the Schlachter 2000. Based on the textus receptus coming from the greek church (Byzantine Empire).
In spanish there is "Reina Valera 1960" from the textus receptus.
Is the correct spelling indeed "Wescott" or is it Westcott?
Westcott
Westcott.
At least they can spell KJV
Brother Phil, thanks for the lesson. Very important for us to arm ourselves with knowledge. Iam 100% on board. Their must be another CS Lewis, the one showing up was born in 1898 5-6 yrs after the death of W&H lam shure someone known to them had the same name. I will keep searching. ( Godbless)
JB PHILIPS was a contemporary to CS LEWIS… that’s who he was referencing - not W&H.
Unholy Hands on the Bible Volume 2 by Jay P. Green
Why would you burn them and not give them away???
As someone who actually been in a cult... people research every single claim made by him.
All accusations and no citations is a red flag.
Conflating multiple unrelated stories into a single narrative is a 2nd.
He literally spent 20+ minutes poisoning the well before even mentioning the very subject of the title.
Also "if they knew all they need to know, they would have left the church of England and become Baptists."
Uhhhhh so doesn't that imply that Baptists know all that's needed and that would by extension mean that the Baptist church restored said knowledge?
Any man who has to have a Doc. in front of his name tells me all I need to know even if he is a KJB guy or not
This Sermon has reminded me of a recent translation done by Brian Simmons called The passion translation who has also claimed God or a spirit came to him.
Thanks for the information!
Wish I knew what he said when the mic cut out
Same here.
Same
it was literally like 3 words, come on guys
He said we don't know if the spirit is a demon masquerading as CS Lewis. So, I don't trust him.
Has Dr. Stringer ever sung the hymn "The Church's One Foundation" ? Please see following verse:
Yet she on earth hath union with God the Three in One,
and mystic sweet communion with those whose rest is won.
O happy ones and holy! Lord, give us grace that we,
like them, the meek and lowly, on high may dwell with Thee.
Has Dr. Stringer sung the words "mystic sweet communion with those whose rest is won"? If yes, how is that "sweet communion" different from the communion of the saints mentioned by Westcott? If Dr. Stringer has sung this verse, is he promoting occult practices?
Don't expect clarity of rational thought from someone defending the KJB.
That beautiful song is well loved by many, but because the verse you mention doesn't agree with the Bible, I would have to think the song writer didn't have a correct understanding of that particular doctrine. The verse is not included in all copies of the song.
This is good !
C.S.Lewis believed in Purgatory
I just found your channel. I love, you guys. I am a KJV believer, as well. Jesus, bless, you.
WOW!!! What a good shepherd who is sincerely looking over the flock - thank you SOOO much...
A broken clock is right twice a day. That's Stringer. He rips off Riplinger's research in the book New Age Bible Versions for his research when he's right.
The Bible tells us Jesus was not God. The Bible says Jesus is the Son of God.
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Deuteronomy 18:10-13 ,"Let no one be found among you who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practises divination, or a user of magic, or one who interprets omens or a sorcerer,
11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
12 “For whoever does these is an abomination to יהוה, and because of these abominations יהוה your Elohim drives them out from before you.
13 “Be perfect before יהוה your Elohim,"
+The Lion Within Us
How is this remotely relevant?
Its NOT. In any way . . . YOU are creating an opinion based on gossip and falsehoods.
Neither W or H were involved in any spiritism - Riplinger made up that lie and has been corrected hundreds of times - the W. W. Westcott is NOT the same person ad B F Westcott - and she KNOWS that. W W Westcoptt had a spiritist magazine.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wynn_Westcott
The FACTS www.westcotthort.com/jmay/ghostlieguild.html
"Deuteronomy 18:10-13 ,"Let no one be found among you who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, or one who practises divination, or a user of magic, or one who interprets omens or a sorcerer,
11 or one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
12 “For whoever does these is an abomination to יהוה, and because of these abominations יהוה your Elohim drives them out from before you.
13 “Be perfect before יהוה your Elohim,""
@@paulrobinson9318 BF Wescott wrote many books, including a book called "The Historic Faith" in which he talks about his spiritism and communing with the dead (saints). That violates Deuteronomy 18. There are also letters back and forth between the two.
Regardless, their judgment is bad and highly lacking based on their views of Genesis, the authority of the prophets, and veracity of Revelation.
+@@thelionwithinus7495
I have read the letters - and some of his notes re thinking of - NOT talking to - the saints- NOTHING Demonic or occult in it - simply the way English Catholics thought.
YOU are applying a cessationist 21st century Calvinist mindset to it - and coming up with an opinion that is a LONG way from his thinking on the theology involved.
YOU are like so many that ignore the FACT that words change meaning over time - we NO longer buy our groceries at the shambles - and by today's perspective you come up with concepts totally foreign to his way of thinking.
YOU need to use the thoughts and paradigms and words of the early 19th century - NOT the early 21st century. -
IN any event you can provide NOT a single reason to think his theology differed in any way from the translators of the KJB - OR for that matter that his theology would make a whit of difference in the translation.
"There is no information suggesting that Westcott sought or obtained contact with spirits, nor is there any indication as to his motives in his investigations. He lived in an age when skeptics, and in particular those who were denying miracles in the Bible, did not believe in any supernatural intervention in history. Westcott may have felt that clear examples of contact with the spirit world, while not to be condoned, would at least vindicate the existence of the supernatural. Such a motive would be consistent with his doctrinal orthodoxy and his clear and consistent defense of biblical supernaturalism against rationalist thinking."
"Regardless of his early thinking, Westcott reached the conclusion that investigations into spiritualism lead to no good, and for this reason ceased any further involvement. The words of Arthur Westcott, as recorded in his father’s biography, are instructive:
What happened to this Guild in the end I have not discovered. My father ceased to interest himself in these matters, not altogether, I believe, from want of faith in what, for lack of a better name, one must call Spiritualism, but because he was seriously convinced that such investigations led to no good.[5]"
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[5] Arthur Westcott, Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott (London: Macmillan and Co., 1903), Vol. I, p. 119.
"In spite of all claims to the contrary, the leaders of the King James Only movement have produced no evidence that Brooke Foss Westcott personally participated in spiritualism. They have not even discussed the important difference between investigation and participation. They have produced no evidence that his investigations into spiritualism lasted more than approximately one year. They have not demonstrated that his motives in his investigations were sinister. They have not shown us that his conclusion that investigations into spiritualism lead to no good was anything but genuine. They have demonstrated that they are willing to twist words and falsify quotations in order to support their position. They have shown that they are willing to snip quotations out of context in order to manufacture support that the quotations would not otherwise provide. They have shown that they are willing to state something as fact for which they have no documentation and then to supply a footnote to material difficult to obtain that does not say that which they indicate that its says. We can be assured that they did not develop these tactics by reading the King James Bible, and we can also be assured that Brooke Foss Westcott was a far different sort of man than his accusers would have us believe."
www.westcotthort.com/jmay/ghostlieguild.html#_ftn5
YOUR comment on genesis baffles me - again I assume you have taken the fantasy of some charlatan as fact - for Westcott was terribly orthodox on Genesis as far as I can discover.
Can you provide any evidence of his aberration re Genesis?
"I don’t think that I have even used the word “mystics”: it is so hopelessly vague, and it suggests an esoteric teaching which is wholly foreign to the Christian. But from Cambridge days I have read the writings of many who are called mystics with much profit. Every one who believes that phenomena are “signs” of the spiritual and eternal receives the name, and to believe in the Incarnation involves this belief, does it not? After all, the first chapter of Genesis is the Protevangelium, (Westcott, Life and Letters, Vol. II, p. 309,
IN any event, its all moot as NO accurate modern Bibles today use any of his/their material directly.
And even after 140 years or so - their methodology of grouping texts and MSS into Families is still used - and their work is still substantially solid and accurate.
AS opposed to the works of Erasmus - who may have done well for his day - but it was NOT for the GLORY of GOD, but for commercial gain - the 31 revisions of the TR are all different - so even the editors of the KLJ had to rely on textual criticism, but with a very small pool. TODAY we have 15,000 - NOT the 6 Erasmus had - texts from antiquity - in fact a MILLENIA older than Erasmus.
WE have some 15,000 examples of early Christianity and writing from 4 continents and 5 languages - there is NO need for W&H in modern translation.
BUT their methods have stood the test of time.
+@@thelionwithinus7495
I assume from your post that you have NOT actually read those books but accept rather the quotations of them from Biblical heretics.
That is not only DISHONEST but anti-Biblical. The ONE FACT that marks out KJO cultists and their "support" is intentional dishonesty - and I think you have shown to be such.
AN example - and there are many more:
"“What happened to this Guild in the end I have not discovered. My father ceased to interest himself in these matters, not altogether, I believe, from want of faith in what, for lack of a better name, one must call Spiritualism, but because he was seriously convinced that such investigations led to no good.” (Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, Vol. I, p.119)
There are several problems with the claim as made by Chick and Riplinger. First, and most importantly, notice that the quote had “want of” (lack of, e.g. Psalm 23:1) chopped off the front.. Westcott did not have “faith” in Spiritualism, he had “want of [(lack of)] faith” in Spiritualism. Secondly, it was one of two reasons he ceased to interest himself in the the matters the Guild was involved in, shortly after it was formed (notice Chick and Riplinger both falsely use the word “lifelong”). Thirdly, nothing in the quote (or surrounding material) even hints at “public alarm”, let alone “considerable” or even Westcott’s son admitting such. Chick’s claim is completely fabricated, and the quote he chopped to support his claim actually says the exact opposite when the context is examined. The entire quote is somewhat difficult to parse as it stands, but it’s easier to breakdown if viewed as follows: “Westcott ceased, not altogether (not entirely) from want (lack) of faith in Spiritualism, but also because such investigations led to no good.” Was the reason that Westcott ceased due to want (lack) of faith in Spiritualism? Yes, but it was “not altogether” the reason - it was also because “he was seriously convinced that such investigations led to no good.”-
christianpublishinghouse.co/2019/03/28/can-we-trust-the-westcott-and-hort-1881-greek-text-were-westcott-and-hort-occultist-unbelievers/#_ftn7Ray McIntyre"
I submit that your claims are unprovable and fall in line with Chick/Riplinger falsehoods by twisting and distorting the texts you claim you have researched.
@@paulrobinson9318 where in scripture is "Catholic thought" ever cohesive with what scripture and the loving instructions of the Father say? It is usually at odds with it, included as well as many protestant denominations, and even Judaism (aka synagogue of satan). Catholicism was created to control and manipulate a pagan populace. Still very bad and untrustworthy judgment, sourced from bad doctrine and broken foundation.
I understand where the communion of saints is in error...people that weren't saved when the died cannot be saved after they've punched that ticket....
However, to say anyone who says they heard the voice of God, talked with an angel or a saint who died and is in heaven aren't abiding under the authority of the Word is simply false...do you forget Jesus talked with Moses and Elija? An angel appeared to Zachariah to tell him he would have a son? An angel appeared to Joseph not only to reassure him that Mary is ok to marry, but also warned him in dreams...angels appeared and spoke to people throughout thw Bible, people audibly heard the voice of God throughout the Bible...it isn't an unbiblical belief and is partly why we need to test the spirits cus people can be led astray...if demons can manifest to people, why is it hard to believe angels can too?
Wescott and Hort were wolves in sheeps clothing.
Both Wescott and Hort denied the deity of Jesus Christ, both were open evolutionists. This is why these so called new bibles remove any reference to Jesus being God. Such as the word begotten in John 3:16.
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He would have a point, except the Westcott and Hort translation is no longer used. They were using two primary fourth century manuscripts. Since then, we have discovered thousands of new testament Papyri that support the critical text over the textus receptus. No, we don't need new translations. But we can't be afraid to update the language in our old ones.
@One Luxurie No, I'm sorry, its not. Now we use the UBS or the Nestle Aland which are largely based on the Papyri. Not a single modern translation is based on the Westcott and Hort.
@@PracticalBibleStudies what was tyndale based off
Nestle Aland, critical text are not reliable. I don't use them.
@@jgvtc559 Tyndale is the eclectic text. Much like the Nestle Aland. They only diverge slightly here and there. The key difference is that NA is now following the CBGM program, for which I'm a fan. Tyndale is a little more straight eclectic.
@@jgvtc559 Unless you're talking about William Tyndale's translation into English. Which case that is the TR.
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Daniel 3:29
Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.
Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
Luke 13:3
I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Hebrews 2:3
How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
2 Thessalonians 2:3
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Galatians 2:20
I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
I read Gail's book. It became confusing at the end. but the beginning was very telling about the corruption of the modern translations. If the ignorant Christian wishes to remain ignorant out of laziness and convenience then they can answer to Jesus Christ at the BEMA seat.
+CLAY Thomas
YOU are a simpleton cultist - NOTHING in RIPLINGER'S book is to be believed - its deliberate lies from beginning to end.
She is a serial adulterer - deliberate liar and a false teacher - using EASILY verifiable LIES to fill books and remove cash from ignorant cultists into her bank account.
Its OBVIOUS, that like many KJO cultists, you have NO INTEREST in TRUTH.
It's judgement seat not bema seat.
Bema is used in critical text Bibles.
@@Mr-pn2eh Judement and Bema are the same thing! Bema is the Greek word, check the TR Greek text it’s there! I’m a TR/Majority Text, Masoretic Text only person. 🙄
Seriously doubt we will be judged on what version of the Bible we read , we are saved by God's grace through our faith in Jesus Christ not what Bible we read , have a blessed day
As a believer who believes the KJV is the preserved words of God and found KJBRC where I have learned alot, yet I lost ALL respect for you Phil Stringer because of your attack on Gail Riplinger, so I will no longer listen to any more of your video's.
Glad I saw this comment before watching the video. I ordered Gail Riplinger's book about the new versions. I have heard her speak some and I felt like what I heard her say was accurate. I know that all humans are prone to error and that she isn't perfect but I feel like, from what I've heard from her, she presents truth. Even though I've yet to read her book, I'm sure there may be things I'll disagree with but I do not wish to listen to a video that discredits her before I can even make my own mind up about her. I think people tend to think she's cuckoo but I think that's probably because they haven't studied aspects of the occult or care to see how things seem to be paving the way for the anti-christ.
Ethel Muhonen 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. 1 Timothy
14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. 1 Corinthians
@@robertdennisofthefamilybar4943 Amen.
@@doitlikethebereans1690 I've never heard of this woman before... but I will look into who she is and what she believes for the sake of understanding. If she's apologetic of the occult, however, let her be anathema.
@@justkenzie I've read a couple of her books now and I agree with her on the corruption of all modern versions that are called scripture. She can see the deception in them and the occult words used in modern versions. She isn't apologetic to the occult. She's flat out against it and is exposing occult things in modern bible versions.
I utilize westscot and hort critical greek and I am able to believe in salvation through faith without works.
Do you believe that Jesus Christ is God in flesh form?
@@clarkydarklestein5514 I believe the Bible. Jesus is Lord. God's Word made flesh. Born of a virgin and of the Holy Spirit. Son of God. Redeemer. Anything else that you can find in scripture and quote.
@@searching4adventure85 well you're one of the few who can see through the deception and that's miraculous! He is coming soon and I can't wait till we put on our heavenly bodies as the word out it
@@clarkydarklestein5514 there are probably way more like me than you think. God bless.
@@augustusappling139 I believe everything in the Bible.
...Unitarians believe God exists in redundancy...?
Awesome info 👍 but absolutely the worst audio on the planet
Please apply the same judgment to the editor of the textus receptus --Erasmus was a humanist and a papist! Yet he edited the greek nt as carefully as he could using the information and the manuscripts he had available. Neither greek text claims to be original, with no errors. Both preserve God's Word in its truth and purity. Your divisive spirit is troubling.
You're a liar or totally ignorant.
It’s impossible to preserve the word of God in its purity if it’s not consistent and contradicts itself in places like the ESV does.
Erasmus was before the Reformation and wanted to reform the Roman church; he can hardly be called a Papist.
If someone believes that God is limited to "only 3 possibilities" for what someone experiences, they are severely underestimating God, and overestimating their ability to know.
ALL things are possible with the God of Love and Truth, for without that God there is no thing.
It isn't if you believe the Bible! Otherwise, you worship the god of your imagination.
Quite possibly the most puzzling reality is that today's Reformed Theology bunch really pushes these new translations and they evidently do not trust the AV 1611 KJV.
I guess their Calvinistic doctrine doesn't apply when it comes to God's ability to hold true to Psalms 12:6. The bottom line is; if you believe that God meant what He said and says what He means, then you must choose one. I choose the KJV.
Because Psalm 12 is about preserving the people in the verses. Not his word. Every scholar, including the the KJV translators knew that..but assuming the Psalm was about preserving his words through writings. What was the perfectly preserved Bible before the KJV and which KJV is perfect? Since the KJV doesn’t perfectly match any Greek manuscripts perfectly, it has over 1800 differences from the Masoretic majority text, what was it preserved from? Did the Church not have a perfect Bible for over 1500 years?
@@shawnglass108 well, the context of the passage disagrees with your conclusion.
"They speak vanity"....
"With flattering lips"...."with a double heart do they speak"...."the LORD shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue that speaketh proud things"
So yes, the LORD gives a promise to "Set him in safety from him that puffeth at him" so in a sense you are correct, but what you have done is taken the pure words that the LORD spake and twisted the scripture to negate the effectiveness and perpetual preservation of his words.
Do you see the contrast between man's prideful vanity in speech and the LORD'S? This passage has EVERYTHING to do with the words of the LORD. The same God that is in this passage is the same God that speaks to me through his written word that I hold in my hand, but the modern translations change the "them" to "us" and seriously undermine the meaning of the text.
I could care less what "all scholars" have to say on the matter, and I could care less what the corrupted Greek text that is worshiped by these same scholars say.
As far as the pure words of the LORD prior to the KJV is concerned; of course they existed, but the same Roman Catholic Church that is behind these new translations persecuted and exhausted every effort to thwart the men and women who often gave their lives in protecting those words of God. Isn't it peculiar that the King James Bible came on the heels of that intense persecution, and the true history of how effective it became in spreading the gospel throughout the world is almost denied by today's Bible critics who promote their new translations while simultaneously critiquing the King James Bible using lies heaped upon lies to decieve the common plowboy? Sure sounds awful reminiscent of the time period leading up to and during the period that vast efforts were made to stop what God promised in the very passage that you deny. God bless and may the Lord show you the truth that was also hidden from me for many years.
@@flman9684, actually, what sounds incredibly familiar is people attacking the new translation of the Bible and condemning any changes. It’s the exact same argument they used for the Latin Vulgate and killed Wycliffe and Tyndale for. As well as many others. I noticed you couldn’t tell me what was the perfect preserved word of God before 1611. I guess a Bible that doesn’t match any manuscripts perfectly and contains readings that do not appear in any manuscript is your idea of perfect preservation. Again, what was the perfect Bible before 1611?
@@shawnglass108 the same redundant comments that are echoes of the Bible critic himself....the so called Dr. James White. If you do not subscribe to his teachings, then I apologize, but it sure sounds like you do.
Listen, I felt like I made it clear that the scriptures have always existed. Read Romans 9:17. If I denied that, then how would I explain that the scriptures of the Old Testament existed before the New Testament was written? Where you and I differ is that I believe the Bible and trust it completely. You do not believe that the perfect words of God exist unless they are hidden somewhere and God chose to hide them from us. You trust highly questionable manuscripts over the Holy Bible. You trust modern scholarship while denying that the LORD God Almighty gave us His perfect words in the King James Bible in spite of how little faith that the translators had in themselves because they actually were humble men.
I am not trying to belittle you in any way. I just defend this Bible because it is supernatural and I cherish it. It convicts me and speaks to me when I read it and it is my final authority in everything. I am very sorry that so many do not benefit from it when all they have to do is trust it.
I studied from an NASB for decades and learned much, but there is simply no comparison between the KJV and the new translations. When your eyes are truly opened to what has transpired with the new versions, it changes everything. Hopefully you will be shown as I was. I wish you no ill will whatsoever.
Amos 8:12
Claiming Wescott and Hort cavort with demons could have earned you a slander lawsuit.
"Many years ago I had occasion to investigate "spiritualistic" phenomena with some care, and I came to a clear conclusion, which I feel bound to express in answer to your circular. It appears to me that in this, as in all spiritual questions, Holy Scripture is our supreme guide. I observe, then, that while spiritual ministries are constantly recorded in the Bible, there is not the faintest encouragement to seek them. The case, indeed, is far otherwise. I cannot, therefore, but regard every voluntary approach to beings such as those who are supposed to hold communication with men through mediums as unlawful and perilous. I find in the fact of the Incarnation all that man (so far as I can see) requires for life and hope."
Brook Foss Westcott, Borderland, Vol.1, No.1, page 1, July 1893.
I made no such comment. The comment above is a quotation by BF Westcott that conflicts with Dr. Stringer's accusations. Would someone with "occult connections" make the statement above? I recommend that you read Westcott's book "The Historic Faith"; it is available for download at archive.org
After 15 minutes of him talking, I decided he wasn't talking about what the title inferred.
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Gentle Reader, investigations are not the same as participations.
"What happened to this Guild in the end I have not discovered. My father ceased to interest himself in these matters, not altogether, I believe, from want of faith in what, for lack of a better name, one must call Spiritualism, but because he was seriously convinced that such investigations led to no good." Arthur Westcott, Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Westcott, London: Macmillan & Co., 1903, Vol. 1, page 119.
Excellent - here's a condensed version of the refusal of these lies:
www.westcotthort.com/jmay/ghostlieguild.html
Gentle Reader, The "communion of the saints" is listed in the Apostle's Creed. Brooke Foss Westcott wrote of the communion of the saints in his book "The Historic Faith." Please read pages 123-126 & pages 256-271. Westcott's views on the communion of the saints seems far different than the depiction by Dr. Stringer.
Source: Westcott, B.F., The Historic Faith, 4th Ed., London: Macmillan & Co., 1890.
KJO cultists are NOT known for accuracy and in most cases - Honesty.
I highly dislike the 1611 KJV.
From Act 27:23-24 For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve, Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee all them that sail with thee.
I know, I know, there are only 3 alternatives. But wait! What if there are 4? What if it really was an angel from God?
You a started with 1Jo 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Why would we need to test the spirits who are speaking, if EVERY spirit was demonic (or made up by us, or we are crazy)? Clearly, sir, if there are false prophets or spirits, there must be true ones. You can't counterfeit nothing.
We have the completed Word. We don't need new revelations from any spirit, therefore any "new revelation" comes from a place of deception for the purpose of leading believers away from the simplicity of Christ Jesus. All we need is the HOLY Spirit and he will never speak out of line with the Scriptures. He will only lead us deeper into truth BY The Word of God.
@@justkenzie you are right the Holy Spirit will never speak out of line with regard to the scriptures. Sincere believers can however, be led into a certain school of thought by men such as the one giving this presentation. We can be decieved into holding some dogma or another based on how we interpret the scriptures or how weve been taught the scriptures. Or what is contained in the scriptures that should not be there. Ever ask yourself what is the word Easter doing in the KJB in Acts chapter 2? Why did the translators not just use the origional word Pasach/ Passover? Why do the translators in the KJB render the term ego eime in John 8:48 as I am and not add "he" in Itallics as they do everywhere else in the New Testament? Why does Jesus use the term I am the Alpha and Omega in Revalation 1:11 in the KJB and NKJB but not in any other translation? The earliest and most reliable manuscripts and the majority of manuscripts do not have Jesus saying this. What about 1John 5:7? There is much to say about this verse. most scholars agree that this text was forced into the scripture by the Catholic authorities against the will of Erasmus who was the one compiling the work. It is clear to me that in subtle ways the pure Word of God has been corrupted. It is up to us as believers to be Holy and pure in the sight of God. It is up to us to follow Christ with our hearts mind and soul loving one another in obedience to Christ. I believe in that way He can clear up any confusions we may have. Men can only teach us what they percieve to be truth. God can teach us by His Spirit what is in fact the only truth
Sorry but the volume is bad and you can't hear what's being said at times
Dr. Stringer, I am so very grateful for your work in the 'Lamp in the Dark' trilogy. I was rather ignorant of the differences between the translations of THE BIBLE and the true WORD offered in the KJV. The devil is cunning, baffling and more powerful than I imagined through false prophets. I would like to point out however a possible ignorance on your part, one which I carried as well. The Book of Mormon is another Testament of Jesus Christ. They refer to the Book of Mormon as a restoration of the Bible because the stories were taken to the Americas and were from the Americas and were never included in the original Bible from Israel. Mormonism is not a religion. The Church founded by Joseph Smith is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints". They insist on using the King James Version of The Bible in much of their teaching. As I have done some thorough investigation into their story, I have found that Joseph Smith was visited by God himself and Christ Jesus before the Angel Moroni. After a year of attending this Church and understanding what their mission truly is, I will attest that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the restored Church of Jesus Christ. Their mission is to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the ends of the earth and bring together the twelve tribes of Israel unto unity. (No kool-aid offered). With all sincerity and much gratitude, a faithful servant of Christ Jesus, Gabrielle
37 00 Where in the Bible do you get the concept that GOD dictated the Bible. GOD INSPIRED the Bible - that is a LONG way from dictation - GOD spoke thru apostles and prophets - in their OWN language, the Holy spirit guiding their thoughts - and their personalities come through - GOD never suggested HE would dictate anything. Even John who was told to write - did NOT get words but images that he transcribed in his own idioms and understanding.
Burning books? What a grievous sin!
Demon. Huh.
The trinity is not biblical. The trinity doctrine comes from pagan Egypt and Catholicism followed suit along with the harlot daughters of Revelation. God is not 3 persons of a pagan trinity. Look up the pagan origins of the trinity. Also, the Holy Spirit is not a person. The Holy Spirit is a Spirit/Ruach/Nephesh, that breathed into our nostrils to become a living soul. There is only one God with 3 parts, consisting of soul, body and and Spirit. We are made in God's image. We each have 3 parts as well, consisting of soul, body and Spirit/Ruach/ Nephesh, yet we are each, "one" individual. The only difference is, is that we are mortal and God is immortal.
1 Corinthians 15:53-55
The Godhead is biblical. Colossians 2:9
God told us who He is in that verse.
King James and some of the translators of the KJV had occult and sexual misconduct connections.
16:30 marks the beginning of his discussion on Wescott and Hort.
19:30 they are **unitarians.**
19:38 **Did not believe in a Trinity.** When they say trinity, they mean god expressed three different ways, but not Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
19:52 their universalism is clarified to mean anyone can be saved **whether they are a Christian or not.** Works can be generated to justify salvation.
20:09 **they believed evolution.** Hort called it "a new revelation that came from God."
20:16 they **believed in Christian socialism.** The influence of Christianity on the political world should create a perfect society where Christian socialism ended poverty...
20:35 they believed in the community of the saints. The presenter earlier says this is when someone of the Faith passes on but visits you before they take permanent leave... It's **contact with the dead**.
24:54 **five things they were trying to bring into the Church of England at that time in order to create a new Christianity.**
25:17 Hort addresses this directly. Two volumes. Life and Letters of Fenton John Anthony Hort. Two volumes for Wescott, also. Their sons published. **It's very different from their commentaries.** No examples are given however. Presenter has expertise here but did not offer any insight.
25:50 they talk about the resurrection but they what really mean is only His ghost appeared after death by crucifixion.
26:15 Wescott and Hort **considered the concept of verbal inspiration offensive.** This is the idea that God could dictate Scriptures.
26:45 WH were part of a massive denomination and deployed deception... Asked if they believed in Trinity they lied and did not articulate their position openly to avoid ruffling feathers.
27:05 salvation by faith. They blend in, but they **did not believe in justification by anything Messiah did on the cross.**
27:18 Hort wrote he could not see God's justification without every man paying the full price for his own sin. But they use all the classic words, even in commentary, meaning completely different things.
28:11 Hort was estranged from his mother as she was evangelical. Lifelong rift.
29:15 Hort would later write that he outgrew evangelical Christianity.
29:55 Were they involved in the occult???
30:15 the ghostly guild formed in college, to collect personal experiences with ghosts.
30:55 Hort admits he collected a number of stories though he himself never had any encounter.
36:30 of those five things to corrupt the Church of England. **They had to challenge the doctrine of verbal infallibility.** They did not believe the Bible was infallible.
36:50 **to challenge the doctrine of dictation.**
37:20 they believed **the received text had been corrupted.**
37:30 Hort believed Lucien gave us Trinity and blood atonement by deceit. Believers even Catholic, Church of England, misled, and now had come the time to 'restore' the text. Get rid of 'Lucien' corruptions.
38:06 he had not a single historical reference for Lucien! Amazing. Said it was something he felt. His book 'Ring of Truth' haha
38:55 Hort's 'inclination of truth,' meaning the truth is whatever feels right.
39:21 it was their own opinion! Hort wrote there was none more knowledgeable than himself.
39:52 Jessie Penn Lewis (she) wrote a book called War On The Saints. Welsh revival.
40:26 Whales. 1850s. Evans Roberts was preaching. Incredible time.
43:10 the sole authority is Scripture, anything else is contrary and inevitably a 'salvation by works' effort.
46:18 Their influence has stretched oceans, penetrating evangelical seminaries,
47:21 **what text are they translating from?** refuse to support a translation where they can't show you explicitly from **what text they are translating from.** Integrity of the received text. Lack of integrity in critical text. Don't settle for what amounts to people doing things in secret.
48:00 apparently WH can't ever explicitly say 'this is what we're translating from'.
49:40 what seminaries use WH translations? I wonder...
52:00 the presenter seems to rule out supernatural experience. It doesn't seem wise to me but this is about W&H...
54:00 "You could not get me to take a Philips New Testament seriously after reading the book Ring of Truth.
55:50 Wescott communing with spirits recreating the Greek New Testament.
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Brother Phil I know exactly how you feel concerning being ridiculed in front of the crowd. I would just state to them that you cannot do surgery with a wooden sword!
Why are you using masonic demon channeling hand signs?
Most are not trained to look for these, but more are looking.
Doesn’t your income depend on your ministry and speeches? You distort everything EVERYONE has ever said and EVERYONE believes everything you say-hook, line AND SINKER!
I don't buy your vilification of Westcott.