Should be know after the Horus heresy the emporer children and especially the thousands sons are a dying breed especially the thousands sons of you consider only the sorcerer as actual an alive thousand son and not a ghost trap inside its armor
GR8 closing thoughts regarding the II & the XI! I take a different track which is exactly what GW wanted. The ambiguity everybody grouses over is really a HUGE imagination sand box! Only Beef is w/ chapters having only 2 Battalions not 3 for a Brigade size unit. It would make interchanging w/ Regiments smoother. Many thanx 👍👍
I wish the current chapters would adopt the position of Lt. Commander. Let the Chapter Master have command over the 1-5 Companies and the LTC command the remaining 6-10 Companies, there should be a clear second in command in any fighting force where the commander is expected to be a casualty. This also allows GW to spread the lore love a bit more rather than having a single Space Marine per chapter, such as Marneus Calgar, Dante Luis, and Logan Grimnar, be the favorite poster child and hog all the more lore-worthy moments.
mostly space marine deployed by one conflict, one company scheme and only deployed as multiple companies or full chapter for large crusades or things gone very wrong, if multiple companies deployed most senior captain would usually took command , making lieutenant commander ranks obsolute.
The last couple companies in a chapter are "reserve forces" usually the first 5 companies draw their reinforcement/ replacements from them. Plus there are a bunch of other cool characters in the books if you read😊
Yeah this is what o bloody want, I also want to give props to the thumbnail since that's a sick ass picture. Mark 3 Iron armor with a thick ass power first was epic and enticing 👍🦾🛡️
i find it even weirder that a Legion like the Dark angels had 200k while Ultramarines, who, "allegedly", absorbed the 2nd and 11th, are ONLY 250k. I mean, Ultramar had "500 worlds" from where to recruit. quite possibly the biggest manpower pool of all Legions. and they had only 50k over the second most numerous Legion....
That is because, as the founding 1st Legion, the Dark Angels had the time and focus to grow steadily over time rather than the 13th Legion who did not get founded until centuries after. The Emperor definitely played favorites with the Dark Angels and also gave them access to unique Dark Age weaponry, armor, and equipment that lowered their mortality rate significantly compared to other types of Legions. Finally with Space Marine legions it's not like a conscription gang goes around finding as many people as possible, you are limited by the amount of geneseeds at your disposal, not by the amount of bodies you can volunteer. Geneseeds take a long time to grow, so the headstart the 1st Legion has over others does indeed make a large difference over the span of centuries.
@@jasonrabeiro2009 those are actually valid points. i knew about Dark Angels(Lion) being a favourite and getting special dark age tech. Just didn't take it as that big of a gap closer. Guess current setting, where what? 80% of all SM chapters come from the Ultramarines influenced my view point. Though, if the 2nd and 11th were absorbed by them, that could probably explain their geneseed stability? like, they actually got 3 separate geneseeds, hence more variety? Whoa?! does geneseed work like human biology? to many uses result in inbreeding and the deterioration inbreeding gives? Habsburg Big Chin Astartes when?
@@ElToronski bummer... but it would make the setting so much more interesting if they did. Also, it negates the fact the Dark Angels had all their advantages and still being number two, numbers wise.
@@Shadow.24772 Ultramarine survived the heresy roughly halves their numbers because mostly they didn't involved in larger campaigns and the siege of Terra, while some legions like salamanders literally reduced to less than a chapter, the preference of using ultramarine gene seed is simply because they are most genetically stable makings ultramarine descendants basis to more than half modern chapters, while dark angles have same degree of stability its an open secret DA still operated as single legion behind everyone back.
Before anyone says the 13th abssorbed Marines from the 2nd and 11th, no they didn't. It was just some butthurt Word Bearer rumors. The author even said that it didnt happen. And nothing about Dorn and Malcy's conversation ever says about integrating them in the existing legions.
I've been headcanoning that one of the 2 legions were Chinese/asian themed, which would be very convenient for Jaghatai Khan when he converted the previously heavily armed mechanized star hunters into the White Scars and just so happened to have plenty of wargear in stock suited for the recruits of his homeworld to use, as astartes.
Should be know after the Horus heresy the emporer children and especially the thousands sons are a dying breed especially the thousands sons of you consider only the sorcerer as actual an alive thousand son and not a ghost trap inside its armor
GR8 closing thoughts regarding the II & the XI!
I take a different track which is exactly what GW wanted. The ambiguity everybody grouses over is really a HUGE imagination sand box! Only Beef is w/ chapters having only 2 Battalions not 3 for a Brigade size unit. It would make interchanging w/ Regiments smoother. Many thanx 👍👍
I wish the current chapters would adopt the position of Lt. Commander. Let the Chapter Master have command over the 1-5 Companies and the LTC command the remaining 6-10 Companies, there should be a clear second in command in any fighting force where the commander is expected to be a casualty. This also allows GW to spread the lore love a bit more rather than having a single Space Marine per chapter, such as Marneus Calgar, Dante Luis, and Logan Grimnar, be the favorite poster child and hog all the more lore-worthy moments.
mostly space marine deployed by one conflict, one company scheme and only deployed as multiple companies or full chapter for large crusades or things gone very wrong, if multiple companies deployed most senior captain would usually took command , making lieutenant commander ranks obsolute.
The last couple companies in a chapter are "reserve forces" usually the first 5 companies draw their reinforcement/ replacements from them. Plus there are a bunch of other cool characters in the books if you read😊
I mean just go read any book and you’ll find characters that aren’t them? Literally all you have to do is look.
Yeah this is what o bloody want, I also want to give props to the thumbnail since that's a sick ass picture. Mark 3 Iron armor with a thick ass power first was epic and enticing 👍🦾🛡️
great content
I like that Art of the XXI Legion
Warhammer and Numbers is a thing for itself, but you got it quiet right bro!!!😎 greetings from Germany
Nut bug you are awesome
Ah, the good old days of the Imperium. When the Space Marines Legions were the greatest fighting force of the Imperium. Now it's the Imperial Guard.
Bro do you have any other channel? Ur voice Is Soo familiar but I couldn't figure out where I heard it
He has a few, his biggest channel is MindQ
i find it even weirder that a Legion like the Dark angels had 200k while Ultramarines, who, "allegedly", absorbed the 2nd and 11th, are ONLY 250k. I mean, Ultramar had "500 worlds" from where to recruit. quite possibly the biggest manpower pool of all Legions. and they had only 50k over the second most numerous Legion....
That is because, as the founding 1st Legion, the Dark Angels had the time and focus to grow steadily over time rather than the 13th Legion who did not get founded until centuries after. The Emperor definitely played favorites with the Dark Angels and also gave them access to unique Dark Age weaponry, armor, and equipment that lowered their mortality rate significantly compared to other types of Legions.
Finally with Space Marine legions it's not like a conscription gang goes around finding as many people as possible, you are limited by the amount of geneseeds at your disposal, not by the amount of bodies you can volunteer. Geneseeds take a long time to grow, so the headstart the 1st Legion has over others does indeed make a large difference over the span of centuries.
Because they never absorbed anyone from the Lost Legions. It wass all World Bearer rumors. And the author himself clarified that it never happened.
@@jasonrabeiro2009 those are actually valid points. i knew about Dark Angels(Lion) being a favourite and getting special dark age tech. Just didn't take it as that big of a gap closer.
Guess current setting, where what? 80% of all SM chapters come from the Ultramarines influenced my view point.
Though, if the 2nd and 11th were absorbed by them, that could probably explain their geneseed stability? like, they actually got 3 separate geneseeds, hence more variety? Whoa?! does geneseed work like human biology? to many uses result in inbreeding and the deterioration inbreeding gives? Habsburg Big Chin Astartes when?
@@ElToronski bummer... but it would make the setting so much more interesting if they did. Also, it negates the fact the Dark Angels had all their advantages and still being number two, numbers wise.
@@Shadow.24772 Ultramarine survived the heresy roughly halves their numbers because mostly they didn't involved in larger campaigns and the siege of Terra, while some legions like salamanders literally reduced to less than a chapter, the preference of using ultramarine gene seed is simply because they are most genetically stable makings ultramarine descendants basis to more than half modern chapters, while dark angles have same degree of stability its an open secret DA still operated as single legion behind everyone back.
@Nutbug I have a question are your thoughts on the kasrkin and can you do a Kasrkin vs tempestus scions please 🙏.
Will do later
Primaris Alpha legion ftw
Iron Warriors my favorite traitor legion💪
You have a favorite traitor legion? Very heretic if you ask me
@@alejandroruizdiaz9296 Iron within💪😤
Based! @@BasedFish
Hello
Before anyone says the 13th abssorbed Marines from the 2nd and 11th, no they didn't. It was just some butthurt Word Bearer rumors. The author even said that it didnt happen. And nothing about Dorn and Malcy's conversation ever says about integrating them in the existing legions.
I've been headcanoning that one of the 2 legions were Chinese/asian themed, which would be very convenient for Jaghatai Khan when he converted the previously heavily armed mechanized star hunters into the White Scars and just so happened to have plenty of wargear in stock suited for the recruits of his homeworld to use, as astartes.
@@Memelord1117 love the idea. Imagine if they still existed, they would be Sects instead of Chapters lol 😅