Thank you for confirming my suspicions about him sucking,all he youtubers said best team is dio dun but i always thought it will just be bad with lily always canceling dio cause he will be the protected ally casting first+ taking to long to buff dio,
Thanks for this. I will definitely be waiting on him then. Thought he may be good for a Silvina assault team for countering heals, but possibly not a good fit now.
I think they changed him from Pioneer server cuz they realized how crazy he would be. So many people were terrified arena would become D&D exclusive. Imagine having to invest in not just Dunny but also Dionel or you ain't even getting in top 100. But reading his skill, yes technically he's not casting his ult at the beginning of battle. He's passively activating it. All other heroes that can insta-cast ult at the beginning of battle are blockable by Lily May.
He actually wasn’t op in the test server. He was used mostly on the low ranks where people wanted to know what it felt like to own dionel. If you went to the higher PvP areas, the top 20 almost never ran him on defense. And I can say that pharesto talene scarlita Damian Lily may countered dun dio scarlita if you place it so Lily may is in the side corner. Dio will tp in a way so Lily may targets him and he dies leaving the offense broken
@@komodo7044 The power of youtubers hyping and fearmongering over a hero. Glad brownie never did that but geez i read comments on other vids and it was nuts. I saw people saying they were gonna quit cuz Scarlita was getting nerfed. And by nerfed i mean losing her seasonal skill. Yea cuz we all know she was nothing until she got that seasonal skill -_-
I was planning to get him actually so I can consistently be in top 5 arena again, but I guess not. I already have scarlita, who do you think I should get next? Dionel?
I'd go dionel if you can build him to S+ or beyond. He rly starts going crazy at Paragon 1 and ur also gonna want his ex weapon at minimum +15. Or if ur patient u can see what kind of teams get built using dunlinger and then make a decision. Also tho if u build and want to use Dio ur gonna want a S+ Lyca and other heroes that buff him the way she does. The faster a hero provides a buff the better. So Dio is definitely a project that can take time.
@@browniegames865 thanks for your detailed input! I actually have his buddies built already (lyca and etc) because of your content. I'll probably take your advice and wait a little bit more.
@@KC-zg4th I run smokey, and Lyca... with Dionel at the back (but make sure he's covered by smokeys aura), and Enlightening Arti on him. This is the most consistent way I've found of getting Dionels nectar stacks maxed right off the bat. I've found that the other heroes you can use with Dionel (while being powerful in their own right) usually require very specific positioning, and/or don't get him his stacks immediately.
Berial or talene. I've heard berial is gonna be rly good this season from people on the Pioneer server. I don't rly know much more about that tho so I'd maybe ask around, berial is a hero I didn't build. Talene tho, I know she is good, and can do great against certain dream realm bosses. She also has pvp teams she is good in.
Hey Brownie so do you think it worse to build him? I start to build my 2md cele, and its dunlingr or should i build scarlitta? My dunlingr is L+ and scarlitta only one copie
You will get more use out of scarlita in more game modes. And at this moment she seems to be way better then dun even in pvp. Which is his best mode. So I'd say go for scarlita she fits way more team comps also.
I had a choice of getting Dionel to p2 (ex 20), or pulling for Dunlinger and getting him to S+ (ex 20). I went with Dionel... and I'm so glad I did. I'm absolutely destroying Dunlingr teams in Arena, and S Arena.
Hell yea p2 Dio is nuts. I wish I would of went p3 dio but I thought I should probably test this guy so others don't waste their resources if he isn't what I thought he was. I'll just slowly get Dio copies now
I feel bad for you because you spend resources on him, but as for me I'm really relieved actually, I thought arena might be over for f2p players, turns out he's niche tech pvp/afk pushing unit
I actually went and double checked old footage. Even on the Pioneerserver, Dunlingr did NOT apply buffs at the start of the battle. It never happened, it was never a thing. Everyone just believed what the other content creators were saying.
I don't have Dionel, but I pulled him anyways, and I regretted it. He should have been the counter to the Lily May menace going on right now, but no instead he is another victim that gets countered hard.
Well u can't rly get around his bell on defense. The best way to handle him on defense is to have heroes that do a lot with their regular skills and normal attacks.
Yea he is pretty niche. He has his spots on some teams but I need to keep experimenting. Plus the good thing about celestial and hypo units is u can always focus summon the one u want. So even tho u didn't get him now u can get him another time.
Try using another hero that builds an active faster than Dio. Like I use smokie to buff Dio with a nectar stack and also smokie builds his ult faster so enemy lily May's target smokies active while Dio is then able to freely do his active.
Might be a little selfish, but I really hope he isn't buffed. He feels extremely damaging to the game and limiting to character design on the pvp side of things if he were to be very strong. As you showed in your video, the battle is over in 12 seconds, so he already completely negates any and all ultimates.
Yea it like a double edge sword where they tease us with what could be an insane hero, but then they realize what their about to release and then nerf him to where he is an ok hero. Or maybe he never worked the way I thought.
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Hey guys so i was really disappointed when I found out he doesn't buff at the start of battle. But I think we can still find uses for him in pvp.
If it counted as an active at the start of the battle, then lily may would instantly cancel it just like she does with eironn.
Thank you for confirming my suspicions about him sucking,all he youtubers said best team is dio dun but i always thought it will just be bad with lily always canceling dio cause he will be the protected ally casting first+ taking to long to buff dio,
Thanks for this. I will definitely be waiting on him then.
Thought he may be good for a Silvina assault team for countering heals, but possibly not a good fit now.
Arms raced me into him lol. You should show how bad he is on Defense with Dio.
Yea I'm gonna show that soon.
I hope his season charm bonus is substantial, to help his tankiness.
The midspenders breathed a sigh of relief, knowing they can finish their Talene/Phraesto/Scarlita without being screwed over in pvp.
I think they changed him from Pioneer server cuz they realized how crazy he would be. So many people were terrified arena would become D&D exclusive. Imagine having to invest in not just Dunny but also Dionel or you ain't even getting in top 100. But reading his skill, yes technically he's not casting his ult at the beginning of battle. He's passively activating it. All other heroes that can insta-cast ult at the beginning of battle are blockable by Lily May.
He actually wasn’t op in the test server. He was used mostly on the low ranks where people wanted to know what it felt like to own dionel.
If you went to the higher PvP areas, the top 20 almost never ran him on defense. And I can say that pharesto talene scarlita Damian Lily may countered dun dio scarlita if you place it so Lily may is in the side corner. Dio will tp in a way so Lily may targets him and he dies leaving the offense broken
@@komodo7044 The power of youtubers hyping and fearmongering over a hero. Glad brownie never did that but geez i read comments on other vids and it was nuts. I saw people saying they were gonna quit cuz Scarlita was getting nerfed. And by nerfed i mean losing her seasonal skill. Yea cuz we all know she was nothing until she got that seasonal skill -_-
Have you checked if it also doesn't work with the Heal Lock Lifedrain?
Yea I had same results but I'll double check again
I was planning to get him actually so I can consistently be in top 5 arena again, but I guess not. I already have scarlita, who do you think I should get next? Dionel?
I'd go dionel if you can build him to S+ or beyond. He rly starts going crazy at Paragon 1 and ur also gonna want his ex weapon at minimum +15. Or if ur patient u can see what kind of teams get built using dunlinger and then make a decision. Also tho if u build and want to use Dio ur gonna want a S+ Lyca and other heroes that buff him the way she does. The faster a hero provides a buff the better. So Dio is definitely a project that can take time.
@@browniegames865 thanks for your detailed input! I actually have his buddies built already (lyca and etc) because of your content. I'll probably take your advice and wait a little bit more.
@@KC-zg4th I run smokey, and Lyca... with Dionel at the back (but make sure he's covered by smokeys aura), and Enlightening Arti on him. This is the most consistent way I've found of getting Dionels nectar stacks maxed right off the bat. I've found that the other heroes you can use with Dionel (while being powerful in their own right) usually require very specific positioning, and/or don't get him his stacks immediately.
so if i can paragon II him/berial or talene, who should i chose? I have every other hypo/cele built
Berial or talene. I've heard berial is gonna be rly good this season from people on the Pioneer server. I don't rly know much more about that tho so I'd maybe ask around, berial is a hero I didn't build. Talene tho, I know she is good, and can do great against certain dream realm bosses. She also has pvp teams she is good in.
Hey Brownie so do you think it worse to build him? I start to build my 2md cele, and its dunlingr or should i build scarlitta? My dunlingr is L+ and scarlitta only one copie
You will get more use out of scarlita in more game modes. And at this moment she seems to be way better then dun even in pvp. Which is his best mode. So I'd say go for scarlita she fits way more team comps also.
@@browniegames865 damn, so i waste my points..
I had a choice of getting Dionel to p2 (ex 20), or pulling for Dunlinger and getting him to S+ (ex 20). I went with Dionel... and I'm so glad I did. I'm absolutely destroying Dunlingr teams in Arena, and S Arena.
Hell yea p2 Dio is nuts. I wish I would of went p3 dio but I thought I should probably test this guy so others don't waste their resources if he isn't what I thought he was. I'll just slowly get Dio copies now
I feel bad for you because you spend resources on him, but as for me I'm really relieved actually, I thought arena might be over for f2p players, turns out he's niche tech pvp/afk pushing unit
I actually went and double checked old footage. Even on the Pioneerserver, Dunlingr did NOT apply buffs at the start of the battle. It never happened, it was never a thing. Everyone just believed what the other content creators were saying.
Yea I think everyone just went off word of mouth and didn't actually test it.
I don't have Dionel, but I pulled him anyways, and I regretted it. He should have been the counter to the Lily May menace going on right now, but no instead he is another victim that gets countered hard.
How do you get around his silence on defense to start the game?
Well u can't rly get around his bell on defense. The best way to handle him on defense is to have heroes that do a lot with their regular skills and normal attacks.
Lily May's ability to block ults is a passive, its not based on her ult triggering.
I don't think I said it wasn't passive I just was saying she counters dun cause she will stop the protected hero from ult'ing.
Huh, guess ill just finish building my phraesto to supreme plus, glad i didnt spend on Dunlingr then.
Yea he is pretty niche. He has his spots on some teams but I need to keep experimenting. Plus the good thing about celestial and hypo units is u can always focus summon the one u want. So even tho u didn't get him now u can get him another time.
I finally got my Dio s+ +20 but I struggle to pass lily may with it...heeeeeelp 😂😂
Try using another hero that builds an active faster than Dio. Like I use smokie to buff Dio with a nectar stack and also smokie builds his ult faster so enemy lily May's target smokies active while Dio is then able to freely do his active.
Might be a little selfish, but I really hope he isn't buffed. He feels extremely damaging to the game and limiting to character design on the pvp side of things if he were to be very strong. As you showed in your video, the battle is over in 12 seconds, so he already completely negates any and all ultimates.
Yea it like a double edge sword where they tease us with what could be an insane hero, but then they realize what their about to release and then nerf him to where he is an ok hero. Or maybe he never worked the way I thought.
this kind of shit sucks. LLS should fix it!
Yea if he buffed at the start there would be so many possibilities, and cool teams.
He ass bro. He couldn't improve an existing comp, dnd comp is all Dionel, Dunlinger is just an ornament lol.
Yea I know he could of been so much better.