I don’t consider a superstar a vet, a star player is not a vet. The pacers have James Johnson as their vet and they made it to the conference finals. Lakers?? Warriors?? Suns?? Hot ass without a vet
Facts, look at the Heat who punch above their weight every damn season. Haslem is like an extension of Spo and Pat, I think Jamal would be an amazing vet
I have some extended family who have worked with Jamal in a professional capacity for tv production- and they had nothing but massive praise for him. Great dude
Surprisingly good interview. I enjoy listening to people describe finding their path towards making peace and moving forward, regardless of what it is. You can tell he's being truthful and sincere and has found peace, after experiencing what he did after his last game in the league. Mad respect!!!
The NBA is 80% entertainment. Most teams dont care about winning for real. Them ticket and merch sales is more important, some teams can just do it all.
i love jamal but at the end of his career he wasn’t going to help most contenders win at least not on the court maybe in a udonis haslem time but his play style at that point wasn’t what contenders needed . he was an average defender at best and was a great catch and shoot player . he needs the ball in his hands to score and any serious contender would rather have the ball in a much better team oriented player . like i said i love jamal but his play style has a time and place and most teams didn’t need that if they wanted to win a ring
Hey guys, thanks for sharing. I’m going through tough times right now also waiting for the call (general work. Not sports). Good to hear other men going through it
After being THAT GUY as a kid, high school, college, then make the league to just be A guy or barely A guy on the team had to be INCREDIBLY hard. From always picked first on the team to “meh I’ll pass”
jamal is awesome person. wish nothing but good things for him and the kids hes coaching. go get em coach! dont let the nba get ya down. you got fans. lots of em. and im a dang nuggets fan but you a dam dam good player during your career. respect. be good
You deserve better TP! It’s more than being a great teammate. You’re a culture setter. Not a specialist by any means, but a jack of all trades player for sure; can plug and play into any system. How 30 teams don’t see the value in that is nuts to me 🤷🏽♂️
Same thing happens in corporate America. I have 12 plus years in sales and accolades from every job I’ve ever had. It was difficult to land something new after my last company let me go. Employers are just more excited to invest into young talent. I’m glad to see 2 brothers up there talking it through and supporting one another.
The system is also something people have influence over. That's the rub here, he's good enough, great person, veteran, and they said no to him. We know some of the contracts out there are ridiculous, he's upset he couldn't take a small piece and bring in lots of value.
It’s everywhere, not just basketball. Military vets, war vets, great decision makers are being replaced with younger GIs. Seasoned Engineers are being replaced with younger inexperienced engineers (who want 2X the normal salary) with no proven track record. I’m sure its in other career fields too. Its crazy!
That is the circle of life. The younger always replace the older especially when its cheaper. It's a tough pill to swallow but it happens to all of us in one way or another.
it’s life brother it’s nothing new. You’ve replaced or are going to replace someone eventually. Also that same experienced worker was young and inexperienced at one point.
NBA is still Corp America and you’re still just an employee. Corp America is always looking how to cut cost. You are labor and labor is a controllable expense. You can be super skilled but they will let you go and hire another employee with potential that they can train they way they want for a cheaper cost. Just like a veteran/Skilled Store Manager that has an income that has become more than what they want to pay, so they either find a way to terminate the employment, force a retire, or restructure and hire another Store Manager for half the cost.
When he was a knick, every guard who came into the garden scored a career high on him. He was an elite scorer and ball handler, but his defense was the worst I ever saw.
I feel what you’re saying 💯 but, with all due respect, that’s lowkey insulting to Theo’s game imo We can all admit he didn’t get a real chance to display his full value. Brotha should’ve AT LEAST been drafted. That’s just the business, but I really believe Theo has alot of what you need to be a key player on an NBA championship team at a MINIMUM
For those talking about Jamal's limitations, he came off the bench for a reason. Every team needs someone that can come in cold and get a bucket. That is also a role.
I was just thinking about how I miss seeing Jamal hoop. An art form of expression that literally no one else can duplicate. We the fans know y'all can still hoop at a high level and are like wtf???
It’s because he needed the ball to be affective, he didn’t do anything off ball and he was a huge liability on defense. He’s the definition of what kids think basketball is now. Just looking for highlights. Plus they had young talent like Booker, bridges, oubre, then got cam Johnson the next year so they didn’t need a wing that dribbles the air out of the ball and doesn’t play defense.
It’s pretty simple when you look at his stats. His 3% shooting was heading down to 33% and his ppg was lowering. You don’t expect a guy who is 40 to improve and his past few seasons showed he couldn’t maintain his production. He had a nice career and won a few 6MOY.
Thank you i needed this I’m working towards my career been working on it for 10 years I’m the closest i ever been but still don’t know how far away i am from achieving and almost everyday I question if I’m doing the right thing with my energy But i sacrificed so much i can’t quit and if i ever achieve the dream i would cry for joy almost everyday
Wow you Can hear the pain in dude’s voice. At the end of the day it’s the same as a regular job. You can give your all and still get let go. If you don’t own it you’re just a number unless you’re the franchise player. Even then you still get old and pushed to the side.
This is why: There are roughly 580 NBA players on rosters in a season. Atleast half of them are on contracts which they wouldn’t be waived or cut. 30+ of them are rookies taking vet jobs. So there are 200-250 non guaranteed jobs in which players can be moved
Dude...I always felt it was criminal the way Crawford didn't get a job. Lakers needed his shooting, 76ers needed him, Bucks needed him. I couldn't figure it out!
“SECRET SOCIETIES” is a ver important part of your comment because that’s where the politics derive from in the first place not just in basketball but in the entire entertainment industry the corporate world workforce follows suit your bosses are often a part of a secret society and became apart of one for that very reason opportunities to skip pass everyone else
Bro stop. Crawford played longer in the NBA than the majority of guys that ever touch the court. At some point teams are gonna move on for the young guys. It ain't really that deep
The mane going to regular pick ups with 9-5ers and calling it cardio is diabolical!😂😂😂 imagine walking in having to guard Crawford and end up in the hospital with mcl strain, broken ankle and have to tell your boss what happen. 😂😂😂
I always wonder why some players who seem very capable get left to the wayside in the twilight years of their careers. I can understand if they lost their edge, but they're often still good, like Jamal was when he retired. I think coaches feel they're too much of a liability on defense maybe?
The words we were looking for was missing: why? Jamaal should be hooping but if not for ability then what keeps certain players out of the game? Say it! This is over for the league. What about Big 3? We want more on this issue.
No what Jamal said was not a surprise. I couldnt watch that game for years and years. I hated the NBA from learning too much about how that operation...I think it's a different thing...than what we see...on 📺 or hear on a radio. We should know its a product. Thats sold, commercially. For profit. This is not about these players who talk about as far as passion they both have. Mal said the mental struggle fighting ghosts not knowing about the hurdles of control of not being able to say I can play when I want and stop when I want. Being WANTED. Not having that feeling. And, being paid and possessed. We see the highlights. Curry with his outstanding shooting. I love that they sat and showed you all these convos because your favorite players? This is what they talk about. Basic life. Basic economics. How they have to not know where they will be to do what they loved since kids. It became just a job. But...a job that's sold to us as a show. Entertainment. They need you to pay for jerseys games tickets stream subs. Remember that part.
JC is not in the League anymore because he can dribble without carrying, he can finish without traveling, aka “gather step” and that confuses these youngsters and FANatics.
You two have no idea of how important you are. The game of basketball does not grow with you two playing. You two would have been distracted for the things to come. Find peace and understand you will be able to do more for the game on another level. Apply that same love in a different capacity that will make you better because of your understanding of the game. Be the coldest parent/spouse/partner you could possibly be and you will be rewarded in due time. You two are in rare company for the attributes you have. The universe doesn't make mistakes and it will make sense when it is supposed to. #BeGreatonPurpose
Like ageism is a bad thing and a good thing. A lot of these players have made millions in their career and achieved a lot and can still perform but there are many young men fighting to just make the league that have to miss out cause a great player has been holding a spot for 20 years. Some young players would be blessed with a 2 year career let alone 20. Let the young guys get a swing unless your big time box office.
I tell my young ballers to research Jamal Crawford, crazy talent NBA is on some fruity stuff, I just watch the old games when it was played by warriors
Just gotta come to terms with reality. Theo made the league because he was a young guy, and then when they realized he was never going to be a real rotation guy, they’d rather take a chance on a young guy with potential, like he was 5 years before. Jamal scored well on the worst team in the league. Teams don’t want a 39 year old ball stopper that is a decent scorer but is a massive liability on D. Great career but it was time to end.
As a hooper, this was one of the best videos I’ve ever watched
So real and genuine
Absolutely. I know this mental course they’re talking about indefinitely
@@00700556lmfao no u don’t lil bro
Jamal Crawford always been cold.. real basketball players know
The way teams are constructed is insane. The lack of vets is why so many teams bottom out so badly. There’s no accountability in locker rooms!
I don’t consider a superstar a vet, a star player is not a vet. The pacers have James Johnson as their vet and they made it to the conference finals. Lakers?? Warriors?? Suns?? Hot ass without a vet
Facts, look at the Heat who punch above their weight every damn season. Haslem is like an extension of Spo and Pat, I think Jamal would be an amazing vet
Lack of accountability for front office and ownership
Powerful conversation that’s not talked about enough
THEO PINSON YOU ONE OF THE REALEST EVER BUT YOU GOTTA A BIGGER CALLING IN LIFE BEYOND THE BALL!
Agreed although I agree with him you’re right.
Which is what
One of my FAV players of all time
I really enjoyed watching Jamal’s offensive skills. His defense, on the other hand, is a liability.
A lot of players like that including Luka and Jokic
James Harden defense has been more than a liability since he came in the league. He doesn't even try sometimes
Hang in there guys. Respect to you.
I can’t imagine balling and see Jamal walk in a la fitness to hoop.
Right, can imagine him popping in a gym your hooping at.
100
I have some extended family who have worked with Jamal in a professional capacity for tv production- and they had nothing but massive praise for him. Great dude
Surprisingly good interview. I enjoy listening to people describe finding their path towards making peace and moving forward, regardless of what it is. You can tell he's being truthful and sincere and has found peace, after experiencing what he did after his last game in the league. Mad respect!!!
The NBA is 80% entertainment. Most teams dont care about winning for real. Them ticket and merch sales is more important, some teams can just do it all.
How are you winning with Jamal Crawford?
When they get paid as much as they do, nobody cares about winning…
i love jamal but at the end of his career he wasn’t going to help most contenders win at least not on the court maybe in a udonis haslem time but his play style at that point wasn’t what contenders needed . he was an average defender at best and was a great catch and shoot player . he needs the ball in his hands to score and any serious contender would rather have the ball in a much better team oriented player . like i said i love jamal but his play style has a time and place and most teams didn’t need that if they wanted to win a ring
@@iJACVMRight. In addition to all of that, he was old. 🤷🏽
EXACTLY FAM!! .. a lot of people don’t realize this!! Smh
Hey guys, thanks for sharing. I’m going through tough times right now also waiting for the call (general work. Not sports). Good to hear other men going through it
Stay positive man it’s tough
LEBRON JAMES JUST EXPOSED THE POLITICS IN THE NBA W/ HIS SON BRONNY JAMES NO CAPPING
No he didn't. Politics in sports has been a thing for years. I understand what you're saying though.
After being THAT GUY as a kid, high school, college, then make the league to just be A guy or barely A guy on the team had to be INCREDIBLY hard. From always picked first on the team to “meh I’ll pass”
jamal is awesome person. wish nothing but good things for him and the kids hes coaching. go get em coach!
dont let the nba get ya down. you got fans. lots of em. and im a dang nuggets fan but you a dam dam good player during your career. respect. be good
You deserve better TP! It’s more than being a great teammate. You’re a culture setter. Not a specialist by any means, but a jack of all trades player for sure; can plug and play into any system. How 30 teams don’t see the value in that is nuts to me 🤷🏽♂️
Who is TP?
Same thing happens in corporate America. I have 12 plus years in sales and accolades from every job I’ve ever had. It was difficult to land something new after my last company let me go. Employers are just more excited to invest into young talent. I’m glad to see 2 brothers up there talking it through and supporting one another.
The system is also something people have influence over. That's the rub here, he's good enough, great person, veteran, and they said no to him.
We know some of the contracts out there are ridiculous, he's upset he couldn't take a small piece and bring in lots of value.
Makes no sense Jamal Crawford ain't in the league. We are missing good basketball bcos of ageism in the nba
He's 44, what do you think he would be doing?
@@kb5509 ageism
@@kb5509 he still plays with pros I'm sure you've seen the clips
@@kb5509 lebron James is 40
@@mr.ellerbe3898Lebron also owns part of the NBA basically
He can ride the bench until he's 60 and some team will allow it
It’s everywhere, not just basketball. Military vets, war vets, great decision makers are being replaced with younger GIs.
Seasoned Engineers are being replaced with younger inexperienced engineers (who want 2X the normal salary) with no proven track record.
I’m sure its in other career fields too. Its crazy!
The question is why? That conversation needs to be had.
That is the circle of life. The younger always replace the older especially when its cheaper. It's a tough pill to swallow but it happens to all of us in one way or another.
it’s life brother it’s nothing new. You’ve replaced or are going to replace someone eventually. Also that same experienced worker was young and inexperienced at one point.
NBA is still Corp America and you’re still just an employee. Corp America is always looking how to cut cost. You are labor and labor is a controllable expense. You can be super skilled but they will let you go and hire another employee with potential that they can train they way they want for a cheaper cost. Just like a veteran/Skilled Store Manager that has an income that has become more than what they want to pay, so they either find a way to terminate the employment, force a retire, or restructure and hire another Store Manager for half the cost.
I would like to see you and jamal possibly in the big 3 at some point
One of the best ball handlers in NBA history 💪💪💪
When he was a knick, every guard who came into the garden scored a career high on him. He was an elite scorer and ball handler, but his defense was the worst I ever saw.
i’ve had convos like that with athletes IYKYK
Jamal had an unbelievable career but it was time! Hard to hear but he was under 40% that last year. Its time for the youngsters to take the reigns
This remind me of Space Jam.
When everyone lost thier powers and had to talk to a therapist.
Crawford is still better than half of the league right now lol.. BUCKETS
True
lol chill
He can't guard nobody
@@ShawnReed-ny1hdneither can anyone else
No he’s not
Theo is a better podcaster than he would have ever been as a pro ball player
I feel what you’re saying 💯 but, with all due respect, that’s lowkey insulting to Theo’s game imo
We can all admit he didn’t get a real chance to display his full value. Brotha should’ve AT LEAST been drafted. That’s just the business, but I really believe Theo has alot of what you need to be a key player on an NBA championship team at a MINIMUM
For those talking about Jamal's limitations, he came off the bench for a reason. Every team needs someone that can come in cold and get a bucket. That is also a role.
I would've loved to have seen Jamal get past the 20k career points.
Michigan Wolverines, he was chewing us up in East Lansing
I was just thinking about how I miss seeing Jamal hoop. An art form of expression that literally no one else can duplicate. We the fans know y'all can still hoop at a high level and are like wtf???
It’s because he needed the ball to be affective, he didn’t do anything off ball and he was a huge liability on defense. He’s the definition of what kids think basketball is now. Just looking for highlights. Plus they had young talent like Booker, bridges, oubre, then got cam Johnson the next year so they didn’t need a wing that dribbles the air out of the ball and doesn’t play defense.
Jamal and his son used to pop in around lunch time to play pickup at the LA Fitness in MN by my house. Humble.
Real talk...thank u
It’s pretty simple when you look at his stats. His 3% shooting was heading down to 33% and his ppg was lowering. You don’t expect a guy who is 40 to improve and his past few seasons showed he couldn’t maintain his production. He had a nice career and won a few 6MOY.
Thank you i needed this I’m working towards my career been working on it for 10 years
I’m the closest i ever been but still don’t know how far away i am from achieving and almost everyday I question if I’m doing the right thing with my energy
But i sacrificed so much i can’t quit and if i ever achieve the dream i would cry for joy almost everyday
Go with your first Mind.
Theo needs a spot on a team no kap
Crawford a real one!
Wow you Can hear the pain in dude’s voice. At the end of the day it’s the same as a regular job. You can give your all and still get let go. If you don’t own it you’re just a number unless you’re the franchise player. Even then you still get old and pushed to the side.
He could always score. The issue is his defense and his shot selection. He is a career 41% shooter that is slowing down.
I needed to hear this
he was my favorite player to play in 2K
The fact that Jamal Crossover was never selected on an All-Star team is one of the greatest robberies in the NBA.
Great vid. Good guys
I hate that he’s known as a bench player. (6th man)Dude was one of the most beautiful players I ever watched. He cooked everyone.
Theo Top 10 teammates. Id make sure my seat next to Theo pause
This is why:
There are roughly 580 NBA players on rosters in a season.
Atleast half of them are on contracts which they wouldn’t be waived or cut.
30+ of them are rookies taking vet jobs.
So there are 200-250 non guaranteed jobs in which players can be moved
Dude...I always felt it was criminal the way Crawford didn't get a job. Lakers needed his shooting, 76ers needed him, Bucks needed him. I couldn't figure it out!
The politics, secret societies, and "fake ass brotherhood" in the NBA is wack AF.... Maybe y'all wasn't a part of it. 🤷🏾♂️
Basically
This is the most accurate comment on this video‼️🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
“SECRET SOCIETIES” is a ver important part of your comment because that’s where the politics derive from in the first place not just in basketball but in the entire entertainment industry the corporate world workforce follows suit your bosses are often a part of a secret society and became apart of one for that very reason opportunities to skip pass everyone else
Bro stop. Crawford played longer in the NBA than the majority of guys that ever touch the court. At some point teams are gonna move on for the young guys. It ain't really that deep
Yep. The Boule is busy.
I knew I wasn’t crazy because I couldn’t figure out how Crawford was out of the league when could still get buckets
Jamal right now could drop a smooth 20 points a game as a starter. Crazy not seeing him on a team
Dude he's like 45 now definitely 20 a game maybe 5 ppg
The NBA is in the entertainment business!
This is making me want to give up on my NBA dream because of my age
The mane going to regular pick ups with 9-5ers and calling it cardio is diabolical!😂😂😂 imagine walking in having to guard Crawford and end up in the hospital with mcl strain, broken ankle and have to tell your boss what happen. 😂😂😂
Theo go hoop in Europe Man once you learn how to play Euro ball you’ll be a problem.
it’s deeper than that
@@Aucabeamyeah it is. They wanna get paid NBA money! Always love for the money not the game....😅
The Bronny situation speaks volumes in this interview.
I saw him play I believe in vegas at some gym. I thought to myself, this ninja dont miss LOL. He was a walking bucket LOL
I always wonder why some players who seem very capable get left to the wayside in the twilight years of their careers. I can understand if they lost their edge, but they're often still good, like Jamal was when he retired. I think coaches feel they're too much of a liability on defense maybe?
Let's create another league not concerned with money and numbers, just pure love of the game!
Human nature will always come around and make it about money and power
The words we were looking for was missing: why? Jamaal should be hooping but if not for ability then what keeps certain players out of the game? Say it! This is over for the league. What about Big 3? We want more on this issue.
Sounds so sad awwww.
Hey Theo some ppl have a family and are trying to not be homeless. Chill and have perspective.
Long story short, his spirit led him to better. Don’t be fooled by these “BIG DOLLARS”. Jamal is a LEADER, it sounds like
What is the nba therapy
Jamal Crawford is Pharrell Williams of the NBA..... Forever young
Whats crazy at 39 i take crawford over half the first round 30 picks in the draft that year
Theo, you're funny af. Stop thinking you're comparable to Crawford.
No what Jamal said was not a surprise. I couldnt watch that game for years and years. I hated the NBA from learning too much about how that operation...I think it's a different thing...than what we see...on 📺 or hear on a radio. We should know its a product. Thats sold, commercially. For profit. This is not about these players who talk about as far as passion they both have. Mal said the mental struggle fighting ghosts not knowing about the hurdles of control of not being able to say I can play when I want and stop when I want. Being WANTED. Not having that feeling. And, being paid and possessed. We see the highlights. Curry with his outstanding shooting. I love that they sat and showed you all these convos because your favorite players? This is what they talk about. Basic life. Basic economics. How they have to not know where they will be to do what they loved since kids. It became just a job. But...a job that's sold to us as a show. Entertainment. They need you to pay for jerseys games tickets stream subs. Remember that part.
Once the age kicks in, companies want the next hot thing. No Diddy
That’s why I say NBA isn’t a job. You have to be CHOSEN and not necessarily on merit.
JC is not in the League anymore because he can dribble without carrying, he can finish without traveling, aka “gather step” and that confuses these youngsters and FANatics.
We refuse to accept that we need our own leagues. Created, operated solely by us. We are the talent.
You two have no idea of how important you are. The game of basketball does not grow with you two playing. You two would have been distracted for the things to come. Find peace and understand you will be able to do more for the game on another level. Apply that same love in a different capacity that will make you better because of your understanding of the game. Be the coldest parent/spouse/partner you could possibly be and you will be rewarded in due time. You two are in rare company for the attributes you have. The universe doesn't make mistakes and it will make sense when it is supposed to. #BeGreatonPurpose
I think they want to turn the nba into some sort of entertainment show
The NBA doesn’t usually have veterans no more for some reason and Jamal doesn’t play good defense
thats everyone excuse no defense half the league dont play defense if if you tried the refs wouldn't let you
No one plays defence in the NBA, it’s all pull up 3s or dunks.
@@rockymcfly6539facts
Like ageism is a bad thing and a good thing. A lot of these players have made millions in their career and achieved a lot and can still perform but there are many young men fighting to just make the league that have to miss out cause a great player has been holding a spot for 20 years. Some young players would be blessed with a 2 year career let alone 20. Let the young guys get a swing unless your big time box office.
The NBA is a business. No one owes you anything.
He was a show boat, swag, Ball hog who didn’t play defense.
What winning team could he help?
Theo lucked up he 69 can dribble heart no swag n his game
If there were two leagues this would not happen.
Who the hell is Theo? Man I thought this was Paul George brother and just got put on to do a podcast
Get with ICE CUBE BIG 3. Fans are there.
But Haslem was under contract until 42, it doesn’t make sense
Lakers shoulda signed him, but i imagine he didnt get signed because he doesnt play defense.
I tell my young ballers to research Jamal Crawford, crazy talent
NBA is on some fruity stuff, I just watch the old games when it was played by warriors
He averaged 7 pts the month before.
It seems like all the owners get together or something and decide who they wanna kick out the NBA! It's so weird!!!
The last month of his career was four games.
I wish I can play with y'all
Room full of giants
NBA black balled so many players
Crawford had a crazy good handle! From where I sit, he should've been an HOF.
And will play b2b games with no problems and no complaints.
I believe if a super vet is not a winning player, the smart thing to do might be to start looking at some fresher talent 🤷♂️
Theo, 10 years after being Mr. North Carolina Basketball, to now out the league --- welcome back to the Real 🌎, dawg!
#goodluck
Just gotta come to terms with reality. Theo made the league because he was a young guy, and then when they realized he was never going to be a real rotation guy, they’d rather take a chance on a young guy with potential, like he was 5 years before.
Jamal scored well on the worst team in the league. Teams don’t want a 39 year old ball stopper that is a decent scorer but is a massive liability on D. Great career but it was time to end.
Trust you to only take the ball out? I wouldn’t even play 2k for a min
nowadays everybody's a crybaby.
go home old man.
Damn even these cats have the baggage from playing sports. Makes you wonder if it's even worth it.